| 00:38:50 | cmarqu[XXX1302] | hello |
| 00:43:39 | speed-R | hello |
| 00:43:59 | speed-R | not a bot |
| 01:28:58 | pisymbol | 'allo |
| 01:29:37 | cmarqu[XXX1302] | hey pi |
| 01:30:43 | pisymbol | hey hey - got your email |
| 01:30:50 | pisymbol | let |
| 01:31:29 | pisymbol | I will start looking into it - I was playing with busybox all day and my recommendation to the list seems to work for now - I can install, uninstall etc. |
| 01:32:58 | cmarqu[XXX1302] | cool |
| 01:34:06 | pisymbol | your strace is incomplete |
| 01:36:22 | cmarqu[XXX1302] | what's missing? i never get your PANIC |
| 01:39:35 | pisymbol | well - maybe not - I see now what trace you did :-) |
| 01:39:39 | pisymbol | I see the error |
| 01:40:02 | pisymbol | that you reported |
| 01:40:56 | cmarqu[XXX1302] | well, even with a totally bare-bones blackbox menu script, it's still failing |
| 01:41:10 | cmarqu[XXX1302] | why does it wait for a key?... |
| 01:43:54 | pisymbol | apparently its looking for a section tag |
| 01:44:12 | pisymbol | let's talk about this in '#intimate' |
| 06:47:14 | smok | is back (gone 10:04:01) |
| 14:40:59 | | lorien feed is ftp://lothlorien.handhelds.org/pub/linux/feeds/ |
| 14:40:59 | nikos | ibot: lorien feed |
| 15:24:07 | Gus | has anyone tried QT embeded? |
| 15:25:47 | gillus | Gus: Yes, it's really fun to use, you should give it a try. |
| 15:26:56 | Gus | gillus: thanks for replying, is on the top of my list, when i get a serial sync cable, which shoudl be real soon |
| 15:27:37 | Gus | gillus: did you try to migrate WinCE info (contacts, calender etc) over to QTe? |
| 15:44:07 | Bub | is there a ppp howto for the new winCE version? |
| 15:44:26 | nikos | Bub: What do you mean? |
| 15:44:57 | Bub | the ppp howto's instructions don't match my winCE |
| 15:45:15 | Bub | i've brought this up before |
| 15:45:21 | nikos | Bub: Are you talking about connecting linux and CE? |
| 15:45:26 | Bub | yes |
| 15:45:59 | nikos | Bub: They don't match any of the versions of CE for the ipaq, the pictures are based on another CE device, but if you just give it a little thought I think you can figure it out. Others have at least. |
| 15:46:31 | Bub | i use windows less then anyone i know |
| 15:46:52 | Bub | i'm not familiar with it |
| 15:47:12 | Xstupid | i use linux and windows ... 50 50 |
| 15:50:13 | Bub | in 2 years i used windows for 48 hours when i bought my new desktop |
| 15:50:38 | Bub | then i removed partition D:\ and can no longer install from the cd |
| 15:51:00 | Bub | due to the magic of copyright protection |
| 15:51:03 | Xstupid | oh , that's really upset. |
| 15:52:09 | Bub | expessualy with a compaq cd, it doesn't need protection like that |
| 15:52:24 | Bub | since the drivers won't work very well outside a compaq |
| 15:52:39 | Bub | and since every compaq comes with windows anyway |
| 15:53:03 | Xstupid | btw, how you switch from windows to linux then ? |
| 15:53:20 | Bub | i don't switch |
| 15:53:32 | Bub | i installed openbsd from floppy |
| 15:53:35 | Bub | and ftp |
| 15:53:45 | Bub | and wiped the partition table |
| 15:54:02 | Xstupid | then, bsd is your only os now ? |
| 15:54:23 | Bub | used to be, but bsd's ipaq support is not very good atm |
| 15:54:27 | Bub | now it's linux |
| 15:55:12 | Xstupid | that's cool ... i heard bsd, but i didn't try it. |
| 15:55:26 | Bub | i dislike freebsd |
| 15:55:31 | Bub | try netbsd or openbsd |
| 15:55:54 | Bub | they both assume you know what you're doing however |
| 15:56:11 | Bub | sorta like linux i guess |
| 15:56:14 | Xstupid | in my city, people just talk about linux ... before linux getting heat ...all use windows. |
| 15:56:34 | Bub | bsd and linux don't have the same history |
| 15:56:45 | Bub | they were developed differently |
| 15:56:52 | Bub | and by different communities |
| 15:57:44 | Xstupid | i just know bsd is from a university ... |
| 15:57:59 | Bub | bsd's are not binary compatible, but the kernel has features to run other bsd or linux binaries |
| 15:58:11 | Bub | Berkly |
| 15:58:16 | Xstupid | uhm ... yes .. |
| 15:58:26 | Bub | at&t shared their code with berkly |
| 15:58:40 | Bub | berkly made a new dist named bsdi |
| 15:58:47 | Xstupid | they get a version of unix and develop ... |
| 15:58:50 | Bub | at&t sued them for copyright violations |
| 15:59:07 | Bub | bsd rewrote from scratch |
| 15:59:25 | Bub | then branched freebsd |
| 15:59:33 | Bub | netbsd branched off freebsd |
| 15:59:40 | Bub | and openbsd branched off netbsd |
| 15:59:40 | Xstupid | uhm ... that's all i know , but didn't touch ... :) |
| 15:59:45 | gillus | Gus: I've never tried winCE :( |
| 16:00:09 | Bub | netbsd doesn't like openbsd |
| 16:00:17 | Bub | they were sorta insulted |
| 16:01:03 | Bub | diff goals anyway |
| 16:01:05 | Xstupid | wow ... so many bsd ... |
| 16:01:16 | Bub | freebsd wants speed and relyability |
| 16:01:37 | Bub | netbsd wants to port to as many hardware platforms as posible |
| 16:01:46 | Bub | and openbsd only cares about security |
| 16:01:53 | Xstupid | uhm .... i touch unix first .... since i am a student .:) |
| 16:02:04 | Xstupid | sunos . |
| 16:02:22 | Bub | i don't think Unix exists anymore, just unix-clones |
| 16:02:30 | Bub | solaris is a clone |
| 16:02:50 | Xstupid | yes ... i heard in the old days .. guys using pdp-11 ... |
| 16:03:40 | Xstupid | i am just 21 ... to me ... 60's is just a story ... but seems exciting ... |
| 16:04:03 | Bub | i saw a show about the original hackers |
| 16:04:08 | Bub | of the 60's and 70's |
| 16:04:17 | Bub | phone phreaking |
| 16:04:41 | Bub | they had the co-founder of apple computers |
| 16:04:46 | Bub | and kevin mitnick |
| 16:04:49 | Xstupid | i don't know phone phreaking ... but also ... heard about it... |
| 16:05:06 | Bub | it's a box that tells the phone the tones |
| 16:05:16 | Xstupid | in secondary school ... i seen some appleII. |
| 16:05:21 | Bub | so you can make free long distance calls from a payphone |
| 16:05:37 | Xstupid | quite advance ... |
| 16:05:37 | Bub | blue box |
| 16:05:50 | Bub | it's prolly pretty hard to do that now |
| 16:05:55 | Bub | but |
| 16:06:04 | Bub | the internet is wide open |
| 16:06:15 | Bub | there are a few very large holes in tcp/ip |
| 16:06:32 | Bub | being covered up by software |
| 16:07:02 | Bub | maybe someone will have a universal tcp/ip stack exploit one day |
| 16:07:16 | Xstupid | that's horrible ... nightmare ... |
| 16:08:17 | Xstupid | for example, K&R ... i heard a lot ... but how they grow up ... i don't know ... |
| 16:08:56 | Bub | i gota take my dog out for a couple minutes |
| 16:08:57 | Bub | brb |
| 16:09:13 | Xstupid | :) |
| 16:16:55 | Bub | back |
| 16:18:35 | Xstupid | did you chat in channel c ? |
| 16:18:41 | Bub | no |
| 16:20:18 | Xstupid | sometimes i just chat in #c .. |
| 16:24:44 | Xstupid | what is the oldest unix ? |
| 17:33:53 | Bub | i get no carrier with a serial ppp link |
| 19:50:40 | Bub | can anyone help me with the ppp connection? |
| 19:51:05 | Bub | i get no carrier |
| 19:55:30 | Bub | the screen lights up when i plugged the cable in though |
| 19:56:37 | Bub | ! |
| 19:56:42 | Bub | it's working!!! |
| 20:37:54 | Bub | dudes |
| 20:38:13 | Bub | i'm trying to download ftpsvr |
| 20:38:23 | Bub | from my local hhtp |
| 20:38:25 | Bub | http |
| 20:38:27 | Bub | umm |
| 20:38:35 | Bub | winCE won't download it |
| 20:38:52 | Bub | it says it's not a valid winCE application |
| 20:39:08 | Bub | and i can't right click the file |
| 20:39:14 | Bub | to save as |
| 21:48:09 | Bub | anyone know why i can't download ftpsvr? |
| 21:48:31 | Bub | the pocket explorer says it's not a valid winCE app |
| 21:49:09 | Bub | and won't save it or anything |
| 22:02:47 | Bub | hello |
| 23:07:23 | atapi | hi all |
| 23:07:51 | Bub | hi |
| 23:08:08 | Bub | what kind of ipaq do you have? |
| 23:08:59 | atapi | so has this been done can i put linux on an ipac |
| 23:09:11 | atapi | and does it work with a wireless network card |
| 23:09:15 | Bub | i got the ppp link, but i can't download the ftpsvr |
| 23:09:37 | atapi | which ipacs work with this |
| 23:09:39 | Bub | when linux is in it i assume it becomes as managable as linux |
| 23:09:56 | Bub | if you want wireless network support you compile it in the kernel |
| 23:10:27 | Bub | from you desktop and a cross compiler too save space on the palm top |
| 23:10:37 | Bub | i haven't got that far |
| 23:10:53 | Bub | i think all ipaq's work with it |
| 23:10:57 | Bub | with linux |
| 23:11:25 | Bub | i got the newest one i could find, H3670 |
| 23:11:56 | Bub | it's 206mhz 64MB ram, i don't see why 128MB ram would be needed |
| 23:12:08 | Bub | only thing to upgrade is the storage |
| 23:12:27 | Bub | get a dual slot expansion pack if you want wireless network |
| 23:12:38 | Bub | so you can still have a slot for storage |
| 23:14:26 | Bub | i understand toshiba makes 10GB pcmcia cards |
| 23:14:43 | Bub | far more then i need |
| 23:14:57 | atapi | nice |
| 23:15:03 | atapi | how does the interface work |
| 23:15:04 | Bub | i don't even use 3GB on my desktop |
| 23:15:18 | Bub | with a pen shaped object |
| 23:15:23 | atapi | HA HA |
| 23:15:25 | Bub | instead of a mouse |
| 23:15:33 | Bub | and a software keyboard |
| 23:15:42 | atapi | no can the liux handle the pen writeing |
| 23:15:48 | Bub | yes |
| 23:15:51 | Bub | it has X |
| 23:15:57 | atapi | x |
| 23:16:04 | atapi | xwindows |
| 23:16:08 | Bub | yes |
| 23:16:25 | Bub | the linux dist is made for the ipaq, it will be usable |
| 23:16:38 | atapi | are there screen shots |
| 23:16:38 | Bub | i'm sure there is a way to use all the buttons too |
| 23:16:47 | Bub | handhelds.org |
| 23:16:51 | atapi | that would be cool |
| 23:24:48 | Bub | hi |
| 23:25:17 | atapi | did you install it |
| 23:25:24 | atapi | which ipac does it run on |
| 23:25:31 | Bub | all of them |
| 23:26:32 | Bub | they'll prolly make an ipaqII later |
| 23:26:33 | Bub | but for now they're all the same |
| 23:26:33 | Bub | just more or less memory |