irclog2html for ipaq on 2001.07.26

13:15:03sjohnsonis back (gone 16:01:47)
13:31:58mpakulais AWAY at 17:35:45 : CAFFEE
13:43:13mpakulais back after 0 d 0 h 11 m 15 s
14:40:19nikos: huh?
14:40:19nikosibot: lorien feed
14:40:21244 is probably ftp://lothlorien.handhelds.org/pub/linux/feeds/
14:40:21nikosibot: 244
14:40:35OK, nikos.
14:40:35nikosibot: lorien feed is ftp://lothlorien.handhelds.org/pub/linux/feeds/
14:41:34rumour has it unstable feed is at http://familiar.handhelds.org/familiar/feeds/unstable/packages/armv4l/
14:41:34nikosibot: unstable feed
14:51:41nikosis away: Errand
14:54:00scottvenis away: I'm busy
14:54:07scottvenis away: work
15:02:53sjohnsonis away: lunch
15:50:17nikosis back
16:00:07Disconnecttoolchain build issues - anyone? can't even get binutils to build. (following wiki)
16:01:40nikosDisconnect: Are you using the exact files from the exact locations from the Wiki document?
16:03:33Disconnectyep.
16:03:40Disconnectncftp ftp.handhelds.org/etc ; get *
16:04:18Disconnectonly error was the (gcc patch?) one of the patches anyway, the ChangeLog hunk failed. but the others succeeded, so I didn't worry about it.
16:04:49Disconnectthe file in question (see #handhelds.org or I can post it again) is auto-generated by configure.
16:05:23nikosDisconnect: All I can tell you is that I followed it successfully as I editted it.
16:06:10Disconnecttries again w/o the --host=i686
16:08:15Disconnecthrms. not generated by configure. generated during build evidently.
16:12:43Disconnectsame error.
16:14:48DisconnectIn file included from /usr/src/skiff/binutils-2.9.5.0.22/ld/ldemul.c:31:
16:14:48Disconnectldemul-list.h:7: parse error before `&'
16:14:48Disconnectldemul-list.h:7: stray '\' in program
16:18:10Disconnectwow. 32 -> 64M ram upgrade for $99 including 2-day shipping.
16:18:13Disconnect(4 day turnaround)
16:18:46Disconnectjim! just the guy I was hoping for!
16:18:53jghi.
16:18:56Disconnecttoolchain (bintools) hates me.
16:19:09jgWhat's the problem?
16:19:21Disconnectis following the wiki exactly. (only change is /usr/src is /usr/src/skiff (src dirs) and /skiff is /opt/skiff (target) ..
16:19:35Disconnectgcc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I/usr/src/skiff/binutils-2.9.5.0.22/ld -I. -D_GNU_SOURCE -I. -I/usr/src/skiff/binutils-2.9.5.0.22/ld -I../bfd -I/usr/src/skiff/binutils-2.9.5.0.22/ld/../bfd -I/usr/src/skiff/binutils-2.9.5.0.22/ld/../include -I/usr/src/skiff/binutils-2.9.5.0.22/ld/../intl -I../intl  -g -O2 -W -Wall -DLOCALEDIR="\"/opt/skiff/share/locale\""    -g -O2 -W -Wall -c /usr/src/skiff/binutils-2.9.5.0.22/ld/ldemul.c
16:19:35DisconnectIn file included from /usr/src/skiff/binutils-2.9.5.0.22/ld/ldemul.c:31:
16:19:35Disconnectldemul-list.h:7: parse error before `&'
16:19:35Disconnectldemul-list.h:7: stray '\' in program
16:19:41Disconnectand then it proceeds to keep bombing.
16:19:54Disconnectthe ldemul-list.h is generated somewhere in the build process, and looks "odd" at best.
16:20:33jgSounds like you don't have header files set up right: you need to put a link into your 2.4 kernel sources to get up to date header files.
16:20:40Disconnectfor bintools?
16:20:42Disconnect#define EMULATION_LIST \^@\~^H
16:20:42Disconnect  &ld_armelf_linux_emulation, \^@\~^H
16:20:42Disconnect  &ld_armelf_linux26_emulation, \^@\~^H
16:20:42Disconnect  &ld_armelf_emulation, \^@\~^H
16:20:42Disconnect  0
16:20:52Disconnectwiki says 2.4 headers for gcc..
16:20:58Disconnecter s/bintools/binutils
16:22:46jgSo did you put a link in appropriately?
16:23:43Disconnectnot for binutils. cvs'ing the kernel now, will set up the link and try again.
16:24:38jgWhen you install the toolchain, you need to put a link into your 2.4 headerfiles, or you'll have the 2.2 based files that come with the toolchain...
16:25:09Disconnectok. then the wiki needs updating - it goes "dl/patch" "binutils" "kernel" "gcc"
16:25:37jgI gotta go...
16:26:34Disconnectsuspects its not going to do any good, since its misgenerating that file rather than erroring. but we'll see.
16:58:25sjohnsonis back (gone 01:55:33)
17:13:03nikosDisconnect: The Changelog patch failures are completely ignorable.
17:13:24smokis away: I'm busy
17:14:17Disconnectyah. figured the changelog wasn't critical ;) but they applied fine other than that.
17:16:17nikosDisconnect: configuring binutils now.
17:16:24Disconnectdid a make clean ; make (gone up to -5 of the gcc)
17:22:28nikosDisconnect: In the midst of make now.
17:23:14nikosDisconnect: I begin to wonder if it might not be a formulation that works in 2.95.2 but not in 2.95.4.
17:26:00Disconnectfrom another term try cat ld/ldemul-list.h
17:28:04Disconnectwonders why the handhelds lists delay his posts for several hours.
17:29:56Disconnectnikos: did it work?
17:30:00nikosDisconnect: Happens for everybody.  Due to my usual system problems I've had to restart make and continuing.
17:30:12nikosDisconnect: I'm also only running dual 200MHZ Pentium Pro, so I'm a bit slow.
17:30:28Disconnectah ok. (to both ;) ..)
17:30:28nikosDisconnect: Seems to have succesfully completed...
17:30:42Disconnectjust retired his dual p200mmx in favor of a 1.2g tbird.
17:30:44nikosextern ld_emulation_xfer_type ld_armelf_linux_emulation;
17:30:44nikosextern ld_emulation_xfer_type ld_armelf_linux26_emulation;
17:30:44nikosextern ld_emulation_xfer_type ld_armelf_emulation;
17:30:44nikos#define EMULATION_LIST \
17:30:46nikos  &ld_armelf_linux_emulation, \
17:30:46nikos  &ld_armelf_linux26_emulation, \
17:30:47nikos  &ld_armelf_emulation, \
17:30:48nikos  0
17:30:57Disconnecthrm. when you vi it, any odd ctrl codes etc?
17:31:14nikosHow can I tell?
17:31:21Disconnectin vi mine lists like so:
17:31:25Disconnect#define EMULATION_LIST \^@\~H
17:31:25Disconnect  &ld_armelf_linux_emulation, \^@\~H
17:31:25Disconnect  &ld_armelf_linux26_emulation, \^@\~H
17:31:25Disconnect  &ld_armelf_emulation, \^@\~H
17:31:25Disconnect  0
17:31:33nikosDon't see any such thing here.
17:31:54Disconnecttries just taking out the control codes.
17:32:02Disconnectsigh. if its that easy I'm gonna go shoot myself.
17:32:05Disconnectits that easy.
17:32:08nikosDisconnect: Or I could dcc you mine.
17:32:28Disconnectit was that easy. I'm a twit.
17:32:41Disconnectgoes off to make the rest of the kit.
17:32:43nikosStill odd though.
17:34:03Disconnectis the default kernel config in cvs correct for the ipaq?
17:34:33nikosDisconnect: Depends on what you mean, use arch/arm/def-config/h3600-familiar for a familiar v0.4 style kernel.
17:34:45nikosDisconnect: Know telling what .config could be.
17:34:48nikoss/Know/No/
17:34:55Disconnectok cool.
17:35:55Disconnectis that the standard 0.4 kernel? (I hope ;) ..)
17:36:05Disconnect2.4.3-rmk2-np1
17:36:35nikosDisconnect: That's what v0.4 was released with, of course many of us are trying to use later versions now.
17:37:59Disconnectyah. just trying to get headers so I can build this toolchain. only change I need to kernel is ide-floppy.o and htat builds just fine outside of the kernel build ;)
19:13:52smokis back (gone 02:00:27)
20:21:36smokis away: I'm busy
20:32:02smokis back (gone 00:10:25)
21:20:12smokis away: Gone to bed
23:05:39selmhi
23:06:19selmI think I read the entire handhelds.org website, and am still confused
23:06:29selmMaybe You can help me?
23:06:56selmI am thinking about connecting to the internet with my mobilephone
23:07:18selmDid somebody here tried this before?
23:07:33perlanlook in #handhelds
23:07:39selmthanks
23:07:43perlanlook in #handhelds.org
23:08:52selmI want to try this with my ipaq, so thats why I cme here first
23:28:16pkomarekis away: I'm busy

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