| 00:18:24 | Bub | it's likely i'll get the 5GB drive |
| 00:18:34 | Bub | i am happy to develop tons of apps |
| 00:18:53 | Bub | gnome for ipaq |
| 00:19:04 | Bub | and kde |
| 00:47:44 | Nermal | um |
| 00:47:49 | Nermal | gnome and kde are bloated :( |
| 00:51:30 | Bub | yes |
| 00:51:44 | Bub | i personaly don't use them |
| 00:51:55 | Bub | windowmaker i think i use |
| 00:52:54 | Bub | are their many apps for arm32 ? |
| 00:53:56 | Bub | some ppl may have storage cards and can run others apps, but don't have enough space to compile them |
| 00:54:15 | Bub | maybe not kde |
| 00:54:23 | Bub | but like epic3 |
| 00:54:31 | Bub | or something |
| 00:54:43 | Bub | ntpd |
| 00:55:36 | Bub | i'd like to run ircd from mine just for kicks |
| 00:56:00 | Bub | i know an ircd coder who can port it if i give him shell |
| 00:56:33 | Daedelus | how would you connect, cradel? |
| 00:56:47 | Bub | prolly |
| 00:57:10 | Bub | and wireless modem privite network to my desktop durring mobile |
| 00:57:39 | Daedelus | I bet I could get sirc or ircII working on an agenda pretty quick. Hehe, but scribble sucks. |
| 01:00:00 | Daedelus | Can you get a telnet with a modem on an ipaq? |
| 01:00:12 | Bub | should be able to |
| 01:00:19 | Bub | you get an ip |
| 01:00:36 | Bub | so it should be normal tcp/ip |
| 01:00:39 | Daedelus | then you should be able to do it |
| 01:00:50 | Daedelus | from anywhere, you code? |
| 01:01:09 | Bub | not much |
| 01:01:43 | Daedelus | we have visors with modems, but I don't use them, no modem for the agenda, don't use the ipaq much. |
| 01:01:53 | Bub | i have to order the modem, and 5GB disc |
| 01:02:04 | Daedelus | $$$ ? |
| 01:02:07 | Bub | lots |
| 01:02:15 | Bub | modem is like $800 canadian |
| 01:02:21 | Bub | disc is the same price |
| 01:02:27 | Bub | about $400 usd each |
| 01:02:30 | Daedelus | discs are cool, ibm right? |
| 01:02:35 | Bub | toshiba |
| 01:02:49 | Bub | 5 times more space, same price |
| 01:02:59 | Daedelus | only ones I've seen have been IBM |
| 01:03:00 | Bub | i just learned about toshiba tonight |
| 01:03:05 | Bub | just released |
| 01:03:11 | Bub | pcmcia hdd |
| 01:03:13 | Daedelus | hehe, cool, I learned something. |
| 01:03:15 | Bub | 5GB |
| 01:04:07 | Daedelus | wonder if compaq sells them as peripherals for ipaq? |
| 01:04:13 | jacques | lots more power usage |
| 01:04:21 | jacques | much less batt life |
| 01:04:25 | Bub | i don't think compaq does, but other compaies do |
| 01:04:26 | jacques | that's the trade-off |
| 01:04:33 | Daedelus | no doubt |
| 01:04:34 | Bub | how much less? |
| 01:04:41 | Bub | from 18 hours to what? |
| 01:04:47 | Bub | 12 hours? |
| 01:05:17 | Daedelus | I lost my blackberry at the bluesfest, it travelled to Montreal, got it 9 days later, still running. |
| 01:05:59 | Daedelus | hehe, but then you can't watch mpegs on it. |
| 01:06:23 | Bub | i can find free power |
| 01:06:29 | Bub | i can recharge anywhere |
| 01:06:38 | Daedelus | solar? |
| 01:06:44 | Bub | city |
| 01:06:56 | Bub | every train station has free power |
| 01:07:10 | Bub | free of charge |
| 01:07:18 | Daedelus | where are you? |
| 01:07:23 | Bub | canada |
| 01:07:53 | Bub | they have power for your car block heater in the parking lot of every train station |
| 01:08:03 | Bub | no charge |
| 01:08:04 | Daedelus | me too, and I take the train, I suppose you could find a plug. VIA1 has power. |
| 01:08:07 | Daedelus | Oh yeah. |
| 01:08:38 | Daedelus | All you need is free airtime, hehe, you'd be all set. |
| 01:08:43 | Bub | :) |
| 01:08:48 | Bub | i dout that |
| 01:08:58 | Bub | i think i'll be dialing up my house |
| 01:09:04 | Daedelus | And gas, hoser. |
| 01:09:24 | Bub | leaving my desktop running 24/7 and running a answering machine/ppp dialup |
| 01:10:10 | Daedelus | right on, I could call the office, I can do that there. |
| 01:10:53 | Daedelus | I don't have a phone line in my house, I hate bell. |
| 01:11:04 | Bub | phone campanies suck |
| 01:11:40 | Bub | then they got hit when long distance companies started rerouting |
| 01:11:58 | Bub | but they still have their monopolies |
| 01:12:04 | Daedelus | I have a cell, not that expensive. I hope bell sinks like a stone, right after the post office. |
| 01:12:21 | Bub | power sompany |
| 01:12:25 | Bub | cable company |
| 01:12:29 | Bub | same probs |
| 01:12:37 | Bub | they treat us like crap |
| 01:12:40 | Daedelus | Hehe, I have to use them, n future in hating them. |
| 01:12:46 | Bub | cause we have little choice |
| 01:13:42 | Bub | cable companies got hit hard |
| 01:13:46 | Bub | and good for them |
| 01:14:05 | Bub | they adapted with @home, pager, and cell phone service |
| 01:14:17 | Bub | satilite sucks btw |
| 01:14:37 | Daedelus | I use cable modem, don't pay for tv though, it's a rip. |
| 01:14:38 | Bub | it's popular cause it's "satilite", not because it's any good |
| 01:14:51 | Bub | it' uses radio waves! |
| 01:14:56 | Daedelus | you mean like bellvue? |
| 01:15:02 | Bub | yes |
| 01:15:28 | Bub | it may work fr tv cable |
| 01:15:31 | Bub | but not for internet |
| 01:15:33 | Daedelus | Only satellite dish I ever had was a news feed. Worked ok, not sure it would handle the traffic now though. |
| 01:16:30 | Bub | coax is pretty good |
| 01:16:36 | Bub | too bad @home uses dhcp |
| 01:16:42 | Daedelus | apparently satellite up is pretty slow. I's love to live at lands end and have a fast net conn. |
| 01:16:55 | Daedelus | I have dedicated IP |
| 01:17:00 | Bub | we don't hav ethat technology |
| 01:17:20 | Bub | we can't send data threw air faster then sound |
| 01:17:29 | Daedelus | it doesn't matter though, with DHCP and 24/7 your IP doesn't change. |
| 01:17:43 | Bub | not relyably |
| 01:18:00 | Bub | dhcp allows them to change your ip |
| 01:18:02 | Bub | anytime |
| 01:18:15 | Daedelus | Tell them you want a dedicated IP. They won't like it, but they give it to you. |
| 01:18:21 | Bub | no |
| 01:18:24 | Bub | not here |
| 01:18:30 | Bub | i had @home static |
| 01:18:31 | Daedelus | where are you? |
| 01:18:35 | Bub | calagry |
| 01:18:48 | Bub | i paid $160 a month for 1 static ip |
| 01:18:49 | Daedelus | ahh, I'm in Ottawa |
| 01:19:30 | Bub | i canceled it when they refused to change my reverse dns after i emailed them with 5 internet consultants backing me up |
| 01:19:45 | Bub | i use the $39.95 plan now |
| 01:19:51 | Daedelus | me too |
| 01:20:09 | Daedelus | what was the 160 for? |
| 01:20:14 | Bub | nothing |
| 01:20:18 | Bub | total waste |
| 01:20:19 | Daedelus | hehe |
| 01:20:26 | Bub | "permission to run services" |
| 01:20:33 | Daedelus | yeah, my first cell was bell, they soaked me. |
| 01:20:54 | Daedelus | I had a contract, I just stopped paying them. |
| 01:21:04 | Bub | i do exactly the same things now, only diff is now they can change my ip |
| 01:21:06 | Daedelus | f**k bell |
| 01:22:39 | Bub | it's telus here |
| 01:22:47 | Bub | they're getting better now |
| 01:22:52 | Bub | they used to be fuck heads |
| 01:23:03 | Daedelus | no bell? maybe you'll get service then. |
| 01:23:07 | Bub | better now cause more competition |
| 01:23:12 | Daedelus | nod |
| 01:23:35 | Daedelus | competition good, monopoly bad. |
| 01:23:40 | Bub | yes |
| 01:23:45 | Bub | for comsumers |
| 01:23:49 | Bub | consumers |
| 01:23:52 | Bub | not for companies |
| 01:24:00 | Bub | they thrive from monopoly |
| 01:24:05 | Bub | very well |
| 01:24:18 | Bub | everyone is screwed |
| 01:24:25 | Bub | and you rake in money |
| 01:24:30 | Daedelus | not necessarily. competition breeds innovation. |
| 01:24:42 | Daedelus | you innovate, you make money |
| 01:24:52 | Daedelus | you treat customers well, you make money. |
| 01:24:56 | Bub | i can't wait till microsoft starts loosing money |
| 01:25:10 | Daedelus | Wahahahahahaha! Me too. |
| 01:25:22 | Daedelus | Dpon't hold your breath |
| 01:25:30 | Bub | when the computer industry opens their dam eyes |
| 01:26:12 | Bub | windows users know microsoft is ripping them off |
| 01:26:16 | Bub | i talk to them |
| 01:26:17 | Daedelus | what does the industry have to do with it, it's the public that get's duped. The industry gets screwed whatever. |
| 01:26:33 | Bub | they decided they have invested too much to turn back |
| 01:26:47 | Daedelus | well, that's a good point. |
| 01:26:58 | Bub | they say will msword work? |
| 01:27:10 | Daedelus | hehe |
| 01:27:11 | Bub | no, but wordperfect does |
| 01:27:27 | Daedelus | I use vi. |
| 01:27:34 | Bub | at least with mac's they support windows exe's |
| 01:27:43 | Bub | or |
| 01:27:56 | Bub | most software providers include a mac binary |
| 01:28:00 | Bub | but unix is diff |
| 01:28:10 | Bub | they're not all binary compatible |
| 01:28:23 | Bub | too hard to distribute software for |
| 01:28:27 | Daedelus | no, but the code cross compiles. |
| 01:29:02 | Daedelus | if you can get the code that is. |
| 01:29:10 | Bub | it's the real difference between unix and microsoft |
| 01:29:25 | Bub | copyrights and source code |
| 01:29:52 | Bub | the company who makes the software wants to sell it, not give it away |
| 01:30:15 | Bub | that's fine with me |
| 01:30:25 | Bub | but microsoft sells garbage |
| 01:30:35 | Daedelus | of course, but if you get a foot in and become the experts, then you can let it go. |
| 01:30:37 | Bub | and has so much potential to do better |
| 01:31:04 | Daedelus | nod |
| 01:31:13 | Bub | they have so much money |
| 01:31:25 | Bub | they can make elite ight ass programs |
| 01:31:27 | Bub | and they don't |
| 01:31:48 | Bub | they just rake it in spending more on marketing then on development |
| 01:32:04 | Daedelus | they get stuff out that works, and they move on. One thing they do well is developer software. |
| 01:32:17 | Bub | no |
| 01:32:22 | Bub | they keep up with drivers |
| 01:32:26 | Bub | new hardware |
| 01:32:43 | Bub | cause they tell hardware developers to release all the specs |
| 01:32:48 | Bub | only to microsoft |
| 01:33:04 | Bub | so the hardware vedor will break contract releasing the open source |
| 01:33:07 | Daedelus | M$oft visual studio is the best IDE that there is (That doesn't cost $20,000) |
| 01:33:31 | Bub | that's why i like compaq |
| 01:33:37 | Bub | they tell ms to fuck off |
| 01:33:43 | Daedelus | heh |
| 01:33:44 | Bub | they make their own drivers |
| 01:34:14 | Bub | they do as much as they can get away with without pissing off ms |
| 01:34:38 | Daedelus | pissing off ms isn't as dangerous as it was. |
| 01:34:45 | Bub | yes |
| 01:34:54 | Daedelus | I still wouldn't recommend it though |
| 01:35:02 | Bub | if ms refuses to sell windows to compaq, compaq is in trouble |
| 01:35:17 | Bub | or dell or gateway |
| 01:35:33 | Bub | compaq owns alpha now |
| 01:35:36 | Bub | and true64 |
| 01:35:45 | Daedelus | They do that they look like a monopoly and they risk prosecution, especially now. |
| 01:36:16 | Daedelus | what is true64? |
| 01:36:37 | Bub | i think compaq knows what's going on, but still wants to make money, and is holding it's stance for now |
| 01:36:54 | Bub | unix for 64bit cpu's |
| 01:37:10 | Bub | solaris also has a 64 bit version |
| 01:37:14 | Bub | and linux |
| 01:37:24 | Bub | netbsd |
| 01:37:26 | Bub | freebsd |
| 01:37:33 | Bub | not windows |
| 01:37:37 | Daedelus | hehe |
| 01:37:45 | Bub | that's another thing |
| 01:37:56 | Bub | ms holds back cpu developmenty |
| 01:37:59 | Daedelus | linux has been working on alphas for a long time. |
| 01:38:39 | Daedelus | what 64 bit cpu does linux work on? |
| 01:39:06 | Bub | they tell intel they will not develop windows for a Pentium 128 bit, so intel has too much to loose for developing it |
| 01:39:14 | Daedelus | wahaha! A whois shows you on the marijuana channel. |
| 01:39:30 | Bub | i only know of alpha and sparc 64 bit cpu's, sparc has 128 |
| 01:40:30 | Bub | cause it would involve ms recoding teh whole os, and it would not be binary compatible with other versions of windows |
| 01:40:38 | Bub | ms is slowly killing itself |
| 01:41:09 | Bub | the industry is moving faster then microsoft |
| 01:41:15 | Daedelus | tarpits waiting |
| 01:42:12 | Bub | bill gates only cares about his life time |
| 01:42:30 | Bub | and i have a feeling he won't be though of much when he dies |
| 01:42:48 | Daedelus | or now for that matter, haha |
| 01:42:50 | Bub | by the time he dies the industry would have broken microsoft |
| 01:43:13 | Bub | he's still rich |
| 01:43:19 | Bub | he will live long |
| 01:43:50 | Daedelus | I would have quit long ago, gimme a few million, and baby I'm gone! |
| 01:43:52 | Bub | but he'll be taken over by the opposite of what he believes in |
| 01:44:03 | Bub | he's a nazi |
| 01:44:09 | Daedelus | hehe |
| 01:44:10 | Bub | bill gates is a nazi |
| 01:44:22 | Bub | only cares about himself |
| 01:44:44 | Daedelus | Well, nazis are kinda chummy with other nazis. |
| 01:44:52 | Daedelus | so nazis are better. |
| 01:45:06 | Bub | unless you believe in freedom |
| 01:45:12 | Bub | equality |
| 01:46:45 | Daedelus | We were just comparing Nazis to Bill Gates, doesn't matter what I believe. |
| 01:47:55 | Bub | as far as i know they exibit the same behavior |
| 01:48:08 | Bub | total control |
| 01:48:12 | Daedelus | Bill Gatus of Borg. |
| 01:48:13 | Bub | masters and slaves |
| 01:49:03 | Bub | i suggest a society of peers |
| 01:49:26 | Daedelus | where everyone is equal? |
| 01:49:26 | Bub | the homeless dude has the same rights as i do |
| 01:49:46 | Daedelus | who would work? |
| 01:49:54 | Bub | and i'll even defend his rights |
| 01:50:04 | Bub | me |
| 01:50:10 | Daedelus | hehe, not me. |
| 01:50:18 | Bub | he can be homeless if he wants, i work for a living |
| 01:50:59 | Daedelus | oh, so we're just defending his rights then, not buying him a house, a car and a dog? |
| 01:51:13 | Bub | no |
| 01:51:24 | Bub | i don't have to give him anything |
| 01:51:32 | Bub | he has teh right to liberty |
| 01:51:39 | Daedelus | hehe, ok, well then I'll keep working. |
| 01:52:24 | Bub | he has the right to exist as long as he doesn't refuse other ppls rights |
| 01:52:49 | Daedelus | ahh, ok then, so what are we doing to him now that we won't do later? |
| 01:53:23 | Bub | we should treat ppl how they treat us, inteligently |
| 01:53:51 | Bub | always give the benifit of thr dout |
| 01:54:10 | Bub | i've been homeless |
| 01:54:12 | Daedelus | sounds nice, but it wouldn't work for very long. |
| 01:54:23 | Bub | took me 4 months to save for rent |
| 01:54:29 | Daedelus | so have I, in cagary for that matter. |
| 01:54:37 | Bub | slept in a tire |
| 01:54:49 | Bub | with my dog |
| 01:54:57 | Daedelus | I've slept in my truck in the winter, at least I had a truck. |
| 01:55:03 | Bub | i sold corn on the road |
| 01:55:08 | Daedelus | hehe |
| 01:55:25 | Bub | cause they let me work with my dog |
| 01:55:34 | Bub | cause i had no where to put her |
| 01:55:59 | Bub | once a week i bought a hotel room for a shower |
| 01:56:15 | Bub | and bed |
| 01:56:19 | Daedelus | you go to a pool for that, cheaper than a hotel room. |
| 01:56:31 | Bub | i want soap |
| 01:56:45 | Daedelus | they have soap, hehe, and soap doesn't cost much. |
| 01:56:55 | Bub | too late now |
| 01:57:01 | Daedelus | yup, next time. |
| 01:57:06 | Daedelus | hehe |
| 01:57:31 | Bub | my dog loved the hotel |
| 01:57:40 | Daedelus | I wish I'd known about the hydro at the train station, could have had electric heat in my truck. |
| 01:57:45 | Bub | she thought it was her new home each time |
| 01:58:12 | Daedelus | Man that would have been a treat. |
| 01:58:19 | Bub | it was a bitch to find a place that accept dogs too |
| 01:58:31 | Daedelus | This in Calgary? |
| 01:58:37 | Bub | ya |
| 01:59:24 | Bub | my dad died and my step mom kicked me out a week after since i didn't pay rent |
| 01:59:29 | Bub | that's how i got there |
| 01:59:49 | Bub | she expected me to leave my dog |
| 01:59:53 | Bub | she even packed a bag for me |
| 02:00:02 | Daedelus | I rode my motorcycle through downtown at 5am full tilt, ignoring all the lights, not a soul around. Monday morning, calgary, 1978 |
| 02:00:18 | Daedelus | step mom eh? |
| 02:00:18 | Bub | i was born in 1978 |
| 02:00:29 | Daedelus | say 57 |
| 02:00:41 | Daedelus | 1957 that is. |
| 02:01:10 | Bub | huh? |
| 02:01:18 | Bub | how old does that make you? |
| 02:01:21 | Daedelus | I was born in 1957 |
| 02:01:24 | Daedelus | 43 |
| 02:01:28 | Bub | k |
| 02:01:30 | Daedelus | & 1/2 |
| 02:02:14 | Bub | i got home and she shoved me off her property after giving me my bag |
| 02:02:20 | Bub | i can't forgive it |
| 02:02:33 | Bub | i would have never don't that to her |
| 02:03:05 | Bub | don't=done |
| 02:03:24 | Daedelus | I wouldn't, but do yourself a favor and don't waste a lot of time being bitter about it. Life goes on and it's only what you make of it. |
| 02:04:19 | Bub | ya |
| 02:04:31 | cmarqu[XXX1302] | hi all |
| 02:04:45 | Bub | hi |
| 02:04:49 | Daedelus | OK, be bitter for a little while, hehe. |
| 02:04:58 | Bub | well |
| 02:05:02 | Daedelus | Hi Cmarqu |
| 02:05:05 | Bub | i have no reason to like her |
| 02:05:23 | Daedelus | No, I didn't say that. |
| 02:05:56 | Daedelus | I wouldn't forgive her either, ever. |
| 02:06:11 | Bub | i can't wait till i've got my ipaq setup |
| 02:06:17 | Daedelus | hehe. |
| 02:06:22 | Daedelus | that's better. |
| 02:06:22 | Bub | wireless modem and pcmcia hdd |
| 02:06:46 | Bub | i'm very compeditive |
| 02:07:13 | Daedelus | I'll have to see if I can get a modem for my agenda, I thin you can. You know what an agenda is? |
| 02:07:14 | Bub | i keep myself the best dude at work, so i make good money and buy good shit |
| 02:07:25 | Bub | no, i don't |
| 02:07:32 | Daedelus | Linux pda. |
| 02:07:37 | Bub | k |
| 02:08:05 | Bub | i'm between jobs now |
| 02:08:05 | Daedelus | no where near as powerful as an ipaq, but hey, I love it, it's linux. |
| 02:08:17 | Daedelus | What do you do? |
| 02:08:23 | Bub | i said on my resume i am looking for long term employment |
| 02:08:40 | Bub | stone mason |
| 02:08:48 | Bub | tradesman at 22 year ols |
| 02:08:51 | Bub | i love it |
| 02:09:00 | Bub | it makes sence to me |
| 02:09:43 | Bub | i'm stone mason and tile setter |
| 02:09:48 | Daedelus | stonework is cool. There is a bridge here being repaired and they're doing it the same way it was originally. Limestone blocks. |
| 02:10:13 | Bub | i preffer larger peices as long as i don't have to lift it |
| 02:10:18 | Daedelus | I'be done some amateur stuff. Cool trade. |
| 02:11:18 | Bub | i've figured it out |
| 02:11:35 | Daedelus | These are large, different sizes, but I'd gues that 10"x16"x36" is one of the larger pieces. |
| 02:11:35 | Bub | i understand how stone polishes and how it flakes |
| 02:11:40 | Bub | and how it chips |
| 02:11:51 | Daedelus | practice. |
| 02:12:04 | Bub | attention |
| 02:12:29 | Bub | some ppl have more expirence them me and do worse work |
| 02:12:35 | Daedelus | deep limestone is easier to work with because it's harer. |
| 02:12:44 | Daedelus | harder |
| 02:12:55 | Bub | i preffer harder material, it's more consistant |
| 02:13:02 | Bub | doesn't chip |
| 02:13:16 | Bub | doesn't scratch |
| 02:13:22 | Bub | doesn't break |
| 02:13:29 | Bub | black |
| 02:13:35 | Bub | black granite |
| 02:13:50 | Daedelus | hehe, make a nice countertop. |
| 02:13:53 | Bub | it's one of teh hardest natural materials |
| 02:14:22 | Bub | from africa |
| 02:14:36 | Bub | heat = dence |
| 02:14:41 | Bub | and strength |
| 02:15:02 | Bub | black stone comes from africa |
| 02:15:55 | Daedelus | bed time for me. Gotta get up early and call sweden. |
| 02:15:56 | Bub | granite countertops outlive the house |
| 02:16:00 | Bub | k |
| 02:16:06 | Bub | night |
| 02:16:17 | Daedelus | hehe, yeah I bet, and cost as much :) |
| 02:16:18 | Daedelus | night |
| 04:08:15 | sgodsell | BZFlag: did you get my email regarding the tuxscreen |
| 04:10:28 | BZFlag | with the different mailing address? yes. I think your ipaqs already shipped though... order was like tuesday last week no? |
| 04:11:53 | sgodsell | Hmm, I only set up paypal last week. Then I had to wait to get a confirmation number this week |
| 04:29:28 | bhima | grr. I can't connect to efnet. |
| 06:09:06 | banshee762 | anyone awake in here? |
| 06:09:15 | DragonEagle | kinda |
| 06:09:52 | banshee762 | k, just cruising around here looking for info |
| 06:10:40 | DragonEagle | what kind of info? |
| 06:11:15 | banshee762 | any chance of a "bash for ipaq"? |
| 06:11:35 | DragonEagle | yes, you want me to just send it to you? |
| 06:11:50 | banshee762 | ahh.. as long as you mail order me a ipaq on your credit card before hand |
| 06:12:04 | banshee762 | .. gotta get a pda for work, getting info on them before i buy a "win-pda" |
| 06:12:07 | DragonEagle | sorry, won't fit :-) |
| 06:12:34 | banshee762 | k.. that was number 1 answered... number 2... nfsd for ipaq? |
| 06:12:52 | DragonEagle | use it all the time :-) |
| 06:12:54 | cmarqu[XXX1302] | ipkg install bash :) |
| 06:13:09 | banshee762 | k.. number 3... pvm for ipaq? |
| 06:13:15 | DragonEagle | pvm? |
| 06:13:21 | banshee762 | parallel virtual machine |
| 06:13:43 | banshee762 | e.g. beowulf cluster setup.. use the ipaq as a slap in master node for some quick stuff then get the output and run |
| 06:14:11 | DragonEagle | banshee762: good question, best I could tell you is try to cross compile the source |
| 06:14:44 | cmarqu[XXX1302] | banshee762: if it is in debian/arm, you could get a udrive and intimate and run just that |
| 06:14:45 | DragonEagle | here come the bouncers |
| 06:15:02 | banshee762 | DragonEagle: duooooddee.. i can barely write a perl script that'll run w/ the -w option |
| 06:15:37 | banshee762 | wtf... irc.chatjunkies.net and hebron.dal.net split the same time as here |
| 06:16:22 | DragonEagle | banshee762: that's the best I can tell you, I don't know much about bc's |
| 06:16:26 | cmarqu[XXX1302] | bad times for irc |
| 06:17:10 | banshee762 | k, 2 last questions and you guys got me sold on an ipaq over a M$ palm pilot .. (might as well be M$'s) |
| 06:17:33 | DragonEagle | ok, throw 'em |
| 06:17:36 | banshee762 | aaahhhhhhh |
| 06:17:45 | banshee762 | damnit.. hate when that happens script just jumps |
| 06:18:43 | banshee762 | k, question #4 .. what OS is the ipaq.. like.. does it use something similiar to a palm pilot OS where you basically have a minimial icon driven shell to navigate into more options in-program.. or can you just slap a vmlinuz in there |
| 06:18:57 | DragonEagle | it ships with windows pocketpc |
| 06:19:03 | banshee762 | CE? |
| 06:19:18 | DragonEagle | pocketpc is closer to ce2000 |
| 06:19:24 | banshee762 | ..ahhh... .. anyway to take it off? |
| 06:19:39 | DragonEagle | check www.handhelds.org |
| 06:19:56 | DragonEagle | there is all kinds of stuff about removing pocketpc and installing linux |
| 06:20:29 | banshee762 | k, last question... hmm.. would be a nice little side project.. rip windows off yet another system here.. w/o major hardware failure b/c of its dependance on win-drivers |
| 06:20:32 | banshee762 | k |
| 06:20:42 | cmarqu[XXX1302] | also www.linuxdevices.com for other pdas (ipaq is cool tho) |
| 06:20:54 | banshee762 | network config... cat 5, or classic ttySx? |
| 06:21:21 | banshee762 | orrrr... propreitary format setup w/ cables and cradle,etc |
| 06:22:37 | DragonEagle | banshee762: you lost me |
| 06:22:39 | cmarqu[XXX1302] | there is a usb and serial cradle |
| 06:22:45 | banshee762 | usb... ewww |
| 06:22:59 | cmarqu[XXX1302] | also jackets for pcmcia and/or CF |
| 06:23:13 | banshee762 | hmmm pcmcia.. slap a ne2k.o in it and good to go |
| 06:24:17 | cmarqu[XXX1302] | there is a CFtoEth for $69 |
| 06:24:17 | cmarqu[XXX1302] | see http://www.handhelds.org/z/wiki/Steve%20Redler (has a pic of the card) |
| 06:24:17 | cmarqu[XXX1302] | infrared too |
| 06:24:27 | cmarqu[XXX1302] | LED is said to be very powerful |
| 06:24:50 | banshee762 | oh yea.. last thing.. in the meantime.. till i liberate it from the corrupted philosopy of the OS it ships with... win CE2k come with a cmd.exe or command.com? |
| 06:25:26 | cmarqu[XXX1302] | not that i know |
| 06:25:51 | DragonEagle | banshee762: I don't think so, but it takes only about an hour to clean off the wince virus |
| 06:25:56 | cmarqu[XXX1302] | there *might* be a shareware or something |
| 06:26:32 | cmarqu[XXX1302] | still likes to laugh about "wince" |
| 06:29:23 | cmarqu[XXX1302] | that amigo pda looks very interesting too |
| 06:29:30 | banshee762 | hey, only windows OS that can't run on ia-32 architecture besides windows 1.0 |
| 06:30:52 | DragonEagle | you know, that says something in favor of linux and it's cousins :-) |
| 06:31:28 | banshee762 | yea, considering linux can run on anything practically... slap an eprom in a toaster and get it to print logo.h on the bread |
| 06:31:54 | DragonEagle | has seen that done |
| 06:33:20 | banshee762 | oh yea.. other thing.. think you could fit a smb client setup onto an ipaq? like.. got enough disk space and ram? |
| 06:33:43 | DragonEagle | it's also already available :-) |
| 06:34:13 | banshee762 | hmm.. be funny... get an ipaq.. put linux on it.. and get it to work w/ my printer before i can get this computer to work w/ it |
| 06:34:51 | banshee762 | damn.. wonder if there's a BitchX or ircII for ipaq architecture |
| 06:35:15 | DragonEagle | xchat |
| 06:35:40 | DragonEagle | almost all console programs can be built, but require a consold:-) |
| 06:35:54 | DragonEagle | s/consold/console/g |
| 06:36:11 | banshee762 | hmm what architecture is the ipaq? |
| 06:36:22 | DragonEagle | SA1110 203mhz |
| 06:36:39 | DragonEagle | I could be wrong on the exact mhz tho |
| 06:36:56 | cmarqu[XXX1302] | 206 |
| 06:37:01 | banshee762 | 203mhz??!!!! dammmnnnn twice as fast than 3/4th of the computers i have here |
| 06:37:10 | DragonEagle | cmarqu[XXX1302]:thx |
| 06:37:56 | cmarqu[XXX1302] | DragonEagle: i'll forget the exact number when i have it for a while :) |
| 06:38:59 | banshee762 | hmm.. any like.. bulk files.. of packages/programs/whatever i can get for it... i have a habit of d/ling iso's ... too lazy to get package by package |
| 06:40:41 | DragonEagle | check familiar.handhelds.org |
| 06:43:28 | DragonEagle | I'm gonna have to sign off for the night it's almost 1am here |
| 06:43:33 | banshee762 | programs for it OS dependant mainly.. or will run just off of real system calls... or gotta get like a wineCE? |
| 06:44:09 | DragonEagle | It's Linux |
| 06:44:41 | banshee762 | so basically any program for it will run w/ linux on it? |
| 06:45:08 | DragonEagle | pretty much, just need to be built for the arm |
| 06:48:30 | DragonEagle | ok gotta go |
| 08:04:19 | RoMo^away | hi |
| 10:54:05 | RoMo | bye |
| 12:38:06 | nikos | bhima: You around? |
| 12:39:01 | nikos | bhima: Dave Neuer is dneuer in #handhelds.org right now if you have any questions about the mono units. |
| 14:14:55 | | nikos: huh? |
| 14:14:55 | nikos | ibot: ipaq memory upgrade |
| 14:14:57 | | well, ipaq memory upgrades is at http://www.pce2000.com/ipaq64.asp or at http://handhelds.org/z/wiki/UpgradingDRAM |
| 14:14:57 | nikos | ibot: ipaq memory upgrades |
| 14:30:00 | nikos | is away: Errands... |
| 15:11:54 | nikos | is back |