| 00:01:13 | nelson | has a skiffcluster question. |
| 00:01:58 | edwardam | >> |
| 00:02:00 | edwardam | ?? |
| 00:02:23 | nelson | What happened to linux/rtc.h ? |
| 00:04:32 | edwardam | nelson: email france. I think they've been completely re-built |
| 00:04:55 | nelson | Seems like. Okay. |
| 02:59:32 | nelson | Is it just me, or does my hardware clock run fast? |
| 03:14:01 | | hmmm... xstroke is at ftp://ftp.handhelds.org/pub/projects/xstroke/release-0.2 |
| 03:14:01 | jacques_ | ibot: xstroke |
| 17:40:54 | pergj | oslo.no.eu.opirc.nu |
| 17:41:03 | pergj | oslo.no.eu.opirc.nu |
| 18:46:08 | coqueiro | hey |
| 18:46:26 | coqueiro | does any knows any debian-based linux for iPAQ H3670? |
| 18:47:19 | a7r | coqueiro: Install Familiar, and go from there. |
| 18:47:37 | a7r | you can run Debian on your iPAQ through intimate, or run Debian binaries on Familiar. |
| 18:48:23 | coqueiro | Familiar? what is it? |
| 18:48:35 | a7r | It's the reference Linux distribution for the iPAQ. |
| 18:48:42 | a7r | http://familiar.handhelds.org |
| 18:48:49 | coqueiro | thanks |
| 18:49:31 | coqueiro | can I back the windows up for restore it if something goes wrong on linux installation? |
| 18:49:57 | a7r | Yes. |
| 18:51:28 | coqueiro | I just got a 3670 iPAQ and I would really like to install linux on it asap |
| 18:51:48 | coqueiro | but it just can have 16MB of storage capacity? |
| 18:52:28 | a7r | the iPAQ has 16 MB of flash, everything else is external. |
| 18:52:52 | coqueiro | that sounds that it can't store almost nothing |
| 18:53:01 | coqueiro | just a few mp3 files and that's it. |
| 18:53:08 | coqueiro | damn! |
| 18:55:45 | nikos | coqueiro: You can also store files in RAMFS. All WinCE storage is in RAM. |
| 18:59:38 | coqueiro | what you mean? Can I have more than 16MB of storage? |
| 18:59:57 | coqueiro | storage capacity :) |
| 18:59:59 | a7r | external storage, yes, using a microdrive, compact flash, or something else. |
| 19:02:33 | coqueiro | oh, ok. Like Iomega's pocketdisc or something |
| 19:02:49 | coqueiro | I was talking about internal storage |
| 19:03:36 | a7r | I wasn't. You can upgrade your i nternal storage to 32 MB if you really want to. |
| 19:03:39 | coqueiro | I mean, if the WinCE stuff are all on the flash ROM, so I don't even have the ful 16MB For my files |
| 19:03:56 | a7r | No, WinCE aren't in the flash ROM when you install Linux. |
| 19:04:32 | nikos | coqueiro: I may not be understanding, but note that all of Windows CE will be overwritten if you install Familiar. |
| 19:04:47 | coqueiro | but where the backup files are stored? |
| 19:04:53 | nikos | coqueiro: So, before installing it, you will want to follow the backing up instructions in the bootloader instructions. |
| 19:05:01 | nikos | coqueiro: On your PC or laptop. |
| 19:05:06 | coqueiro | oh oh, I didn't know that... |
| 19:05:07 | nikos | coqueiro: Wherever you want. |
| 19:05:32 | coqueiro | ok ok. Got it |
| 19:05:36 | coqueiro | :) |
| 19:06:29 | edwardam | coqueiro: You can store files in ram as well (via ramfs) once linux is running. |
| 19:07:25 | coqueiro | then I can have virtually up to 80MB of data (64 of RAM and 16 of ROM) |
| 19:08:01 | nikos | coqueiro: Sort of, keep in mind applications need a good bit of that RAM too. Using more than say 40-48MB of it is problematic. |
| 19:09:10 | coqueiro | Is there many applications ported to familiar? like mp3 players, web browsers, mail readers, stuff like that? |
| 19:09:17 | coqueiro | vim, sylpheed, xmms? |
| 19:09:32 | coqueiro | that sort of funny stuff. :) |
| 19:09:50 | a7r | Anything built for Debian should run.. whether or not it fits in your screen is a different matter. |
| 19:09:59 | a7r | there are a bunch of apps tuned for the iPAQ's display. |
| 19:10:14 | a7r | Scream (the new MP3 player), Mingle (a new contact manager) |
| 19:11:26 | coqueiro | and web browsers and mail readers? |
| 19:12:25 | coqueiro | this Familiar...is it a Debian-based linux distribution? |
| 19:12:38 | a7r | it's more Debian-compatible than anything. |
| 19:12:38 | coqueiro | or do I have to install the Debian stuff on it? |
| 19:13:35 | coqueiro | so it's a new "distribution". But Debian-compliant |
| 19:13:40 | edwardam | a7r: which reminds me. Did you havea chance to put the new scream, pypaq and python-mixmodule packasges into unstable ? |
| 19:13:55 | edwardam | coqueiro: basically |
| 19:14:06 | a7r | edwardam: nope.. it'll make it into tonight's batch. |
| 19:14:48 | edwardam | a7r: and I'll be sending you new ones tonight most likely (addition of streaming support, a new ipkg for listen and an ipkg correction). |
| 19:15:08 | a7r | edwardam: fine. |
| 19:15:11 | edwardam | a7r: Did you build the ipk for sysset? |
| 19:15:50 | a7r | edwardam: No, see the maintainer field.. it was probably something Carl stuck together from the original tree. |
| 19:16:14 | edwardam | ah, okay ... I'm going to submit you a new one soon... |
| 21:20:12 | Ahaelie | hey |
| 21:20:41 | Ahaelie | heeeey! |
| 21:20:57 | nikos | Yes? |
| 21:21:28 | Ahaelie | oh, thanks a lot. where am i, (sorry for dumb question)? |
| 21:21:44 | BBrox | /topic ? |
| 21:21:51 | BBrox | Oh un Frenchie |
| 21:22:02 | reno | yes, why not ? |
| 21:22:17 | Ahaelie | damn, i'm just lost in this IM systems! is this an irc? |
| 21:22:39 | nikos | Ahaelie: Yes, this is an IRC channel for open source software on the Compaq iPAQ handhelds. |
| 21:23:52 | BBrox | reno: no, /me is French too :-) |
| 21:24:25 | reno | great |
| 21:27:44 | reno | i see you have been student in X. I'm currently in ECP ;) |
| 21:28:59 | BBrox | Yup :-) Saw your address ('gaia.via.ecp.fr') |
| 21:30:27 | reno | yes, it is quite explicit |
| 22:20:02 | jg | a7r: are the new packages in unstable? |
| 23:42:46 | Robierto | hey |
| 23:44:08 | Robierto | I saw a couple of screenshots of Familiar. It's pretty neat, but does the shell on Familiar just take the input from the "Keyboard" or it takes from the optic pen as well? |
| 23:44:42 | Robierto | The "Keyboard" I mean is the keyboard keys the have on the screenshot http://familiar.handhelds.org/screenshots/v0.02/8.jpeg |
