| 00:08.10 | Tangent | I told you that they made a lot of noise |
| 00:09.51 | George | you did |
| 00:10.12 | George | but I didn't realise that disks were capable of making that much noise |
| 00:40.20 | Tangent | Hrm.. I'm not sure if I'm bored or tired |
| 00:41.31 | George | hah |
| 00:41.37 | George | check out my newly redesigned site :) |
| 00:43.33 | Tangent | Checking.. but I can't remember what it used to be like |
| 00:44.26 | George | hang on |
| 00:45.14 | George | Tangent: http://web.archive.org/web/20040722222159/http://www.gwright.org.uk/ |
| 00:45.19 | George | Tangent: that's what it used to look like |
| 00:48.59 | Tangent | Don't you get confused calling both computers and hard disks after elements? |
| 00:49.39 | George | nope |
| 00:49.46 | George | I have a very good memory |
| 00:49.59 | George | I call everything that needs a name after elements |
| 00:50.12 | George | wireless transmitters... partitions... |
| 00:50.50 | Tangent | You must have a limited set of things that needed names :) |
| 00:50.59 | George | yeah |
| 00:51.07 | George | my wir |
| 00:51.10 | George | er. |
| 00:51.13 | Tangent | Or can you mix your elements into molecules for the bigger systems? |
| 00:51.18 | George | my windows install has been named "NITROGLYCERIN" for obvioius reasons :D |
| 00:51.29 | George | I haven't hit molecules yet |
| 00:51.33 | George | except nitro glycerin |
| 00:51.52 | George | but yes, the plan is go to molecular when I run out of elements |
| 00:54.27 | George | I have yet to name a system "1-ethyl,2,2-dibromo,3-butyl,5-oxy-methanoate" |
| 00:56.01 | George | not that that molecule could ever exist |
| 01:09.30 | Tangent | Ah well.. I'm going to bed... Night night |
| 01:12.11 | George | night |
| 08:32.10 | Tangent | Morning all |
| 09:09.19 | Tangent | George, Ready for mail messing today? (once you're awake and all that) |
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| 10:16.13 | Tangent | Hi univac |
| 12:12.21 | George | Tangent: yeah, give me about 3/4 hour to get ready.. :) |
| 12:12.29 | George | Tangent: http://blog.gwright.org.uk/index.php?/archives/85-A-levels-and-government-hype.html |
| 12:12.34 | George | Tangent: do you agree with me? :) |
| 12:45.41 | Tangent | Pretty-much.. yes |
| 12:46.20 | George | yay |
| 12:46.58 | Tangent | I'd say.. "If teaching and learning techniques have improved so much that everyone can get an A... More stuff should be taught for the benefit of the students... and to work out who's the smartest" |
| 12:47.30 | Tangent | Maybe the 'A' level paper is just as hard as it was in 1980.. but teaching techniques have vastly improved |
| 12:47.42 | Tangent | in which case.. more stuff should be taught |
| 12:47.56 | George | Tangent: precisely |
| 12:48.03 | George | Tangent: but I don't think it has.. I think they've got easier. |
| 12:49.52 | Tangent | I think I told you before.. I did my revision for my A-Level-style Maths exam (the university foundation year of maths) from an 'O' level book |
| 12:50.00 | George | hehe |
| 12:50.01 | George | yeah |
| 12:50.11 | Tangent | 'O' levels used to include differentation, integration and other bits of calculus |
| 12:50.20 | Tangent | by the time I did my GSCEs, it was gone |
| 12:50.25 | George | yeah |
| 12:50.35 | George | what sort of differentiation/integration? |
| 12:50.39 | George | just linear stuff? |
| 12:50.47 | Tangent | I dread to think what else they've removed now.... Was long division still in GCSEs when you did them? |
| 12:50.55 | George | I did calculus in my GCSE year because I took GCSE maths a year early |
| 12:51.03 | George | no, long division doesn't exist anymore |
| 12:51.07 | George | I don't think. |
| 12:51.09 | George | not sure. |
| 12:51.26 | George | but long division is pretty much obsoleted these days unless it's done algebraically |
| 12:51.31 | George | (which comes up in the additional maths I took last year) |
| 12:52.31 | George | shower time. |
| 12:52.31 | George | brb |
| 12:52.33 | Tangent | It's definitely getting easier then |
| 12:52.42 | George | yeah :) |
| 12:52.51 | George | although I expect my additional maths is more like the O levels were |
| 12:53.05 | George | we did integration, differentiation, area under curves, area between two curves, linear programming.. |
| 12:53.20 | George | circles... equations of... mechanics... |
| 12:53.43 | Tangent | Yeah.. that sounds like my 'O' level maths book |
| 12:53.57 | George | although only basic calculus |
| 12:53.59 | George | ie - linear stuff |
| 12:54.10 | Tangent | yep |
| 12:54.20 | George | none of the more advanced differentiation/integration which involves things like the chain rule, quotient rule, product rule... |
| 12:54.34 | George | or any strange integration techniques like inspection, parts, partial fractions... |
| 12:54.37 | George | ;) |
| 12:54.44 | George | (I did a LOT of maths this year) |
| 12:54.44 | George | heh |
| 13:06.00 | George | hrmm |
| 13:06.05 | George | Tangent: so what are we going to do today? |
| 13:20.16 | Tangent | Well.. first off.. let's get the antivirus messages into the junkmail folder too |
| 13:22.05 | George | ok |
| 13:26.34 | George | VIRUS (Exploit.HTML.IFrame, Worm.SomeFool.P) IN MAIL TO YOU |
| 13:26.53 | George | what would be a regexp to filter out all emails with "VIRUS (*) IN MAIL TO YOU" in the subject line? |
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| 13:49.01 | George | Tangent: OK |
| 13:49.05 | George | Tangent: I've written it, now to test :D |
| 13:56.59 | George | Tangent: ok, filtering works |
| 14:06.29 | George | Tangent: YAY! |
| 14:06.32 | George | Tangent: per-user filtering works ;D |
| 14:06.44 | Tangent | Even better :D |
| 14:06.47 | Tangent | What's the deal? |
| 14:07.02 | George | well, at the moment, it checks /home/mail/domain/user/.mailfilter |
| 14:07.12 | George | but that could cause trouble with IMAP... |
| 14:07.19 | George | as . files are seen as mail directories |
| 14:07.23 | George | so I'll see what I can do |
| 14:09.58 | Tangent | We just need to hack up a little code to pull the .mailfilter file from sql each time.. That shouldn't be too hard to knock together... |
| 14:10.04 | George | yeah |
| 14:10.06 | George | precisely |
| 14:10.08 | Tangent | does .mailfilter control spam acceptance level too? |
| 14:10.12 | George | it can |
| 14:10.35 | Tangent | The 'Getting rolling with ruby on rails' shows how easy it can be to make sql-web-apps |
| 14:10.35 | George | it basically does some sort of regexp check on the entire email |
| 14:10.38 | George | so you can filter it on ANYTHING |
| 14:12.24 | Tangent | Oh.. do you know if the alias facility can support aliases with multiple destinations? |
| 14:12.49 | George | yes |
| 14:12.52 | George | well |
| 14:12.52 | George | erm |
| 14:12.55 | George | it can in raw postfix |
| 14:13.02 | George | I dunno about the stuff I've set up |
| 14:13.30 | Tangent | There's only one box in postfix-admin for typing addresses into... but it may be possible that you can seperate with semicolons etc |
| 14:13.38 | George | right, currently my account has a custom filter set up whereby it will filter stuff into the junkmail folder if its subject line contains "FOO" |
| 14:14.16 | George | Tangent: in the normal postfix format, it goes "\user, \user, user" |
| 14:14.21 | George | Tangent: and so on |
| 14:14.23 | George | iirc |
| 14:15.12 | Tangent | George, BTW.. I have had my .postfixrc in my Maildir for many years and it's never caused imap confusion |
| 14:16.01 | George | Tangent: squirrelmail seems to think it's a folder |
| 14:16.50 | Tangent | bugger |
| 14:17.02 | George | just noticed? :) |
| 14:17.16 | Tangent | Nope.. still don't see the problem with my imps mail |
| 14:17.28 | George | go to the "Folders" page |
| 14:17.37 | George | and you'll see it there as an option to subscribe to |
| 14:19.24 | Tangent | I lied.. my .procmail is outside my maildir |
| 14:19.29 | George | yeah |
| 14:19.45 | George | right, this has caused some complication regarding the filtering |
| 14:19.53 | George | now maildrop no longer delivers if the file isn't present |
| 14:20.08 | George | so time to add my magic "touch" to the script I wrote |
| 14:20.12 | George | (bad pun) :) |
| 14:21.50 | Tangent | Nod.. script will need endless debugging |
| 14:23.42 | George | what's ukplankton.com? |
| 14:24.28 | Tangent | Mark = ukplankton |
| 14:24.36 | George | ah |
| 14:24.37 | Tangent | I was showing him how to use the postfix-admin stuff |
| 14:24.41 | George | mark in crazy mark? |
| 14:24.43 | Tangent | it can/should be removed |
| 14:24.46 | George | s/in/as in/ |
| 14:24.55 | Tangent | Crazy Mark as in the guy who sits next to me? Yes!! |
| 14:25.00 | George | :) |
| 14:25.08 | George | ok, that's that done |
| 14:25.11 | George | it seems to be working... |
| 14:26.39 | George | Tangent: anyway, play with it and let me know what you think |
| 14:27.04 | Tangent | shall do |
| 14:27.33 | George | Tangent: you'll want to check out /etc/maildroprc too, as that's the central filtering config |
| 14:27.46 | George | Tangent: what does mark think of the new mail system? :) |
| 14:30.17 | Tangent | He thinks it's ok.. but doesn't really understand why it's better |
| 14:30.22 | Tangent | Do quotas work? |
| 14:30.29 | George | nope |
| 14:30.43 | George | mainly because afaik, that required a special patch to postfix |
| 14:30.47 | Tangent | I can see a lot of junkmail folders filling up on unused accounts |
| 14:30.48 | George | and you don't want custom compiled stuf. |
| 14:30.53 | Tangent | Indeed I don't |
| 14:31.09 | Tangent | unless it gets us a web interface for controlling maildrop |
| 14:31.11 | George | junkmail folders on unused accounts? |
| 14:31.25 | Tangent | The undelivered stuff fills up fast |
| 14:31.30 | George | yes |
| 14:31.40 | Tangent | Would be nice to have a 60-day retention for junkmail.. or something like that |
| 14:31.49 | Tangent | easy to do with a cron job |
| 14:32.01 | George | my mouse has run out of battery power... just had to plug in my MX300 |
| 14:32.05 | Tangent | nice if the MTA or maildrop handled it for us... but easy with a cron job anyway |
| 14:32.32 | George | it could do |
| 14:32.39 | Tangent | http://www.courier-mta.org/maildrop/maildirquota.html |
| 14:32.49 | George | I haven't explored maildrop much mainly because its documentation STINKS |
| 14:33.40 | Tangent | no arguments from me there |
| 14:34.34 | George | I personally find quotas a pain in the arse ;) |
| 14:37.24 | George | I love annoying people who ask silly questions |
| 14:37.37 | George | some guy said "omg I just saw your website... why do you need so much memory on your desktop?" |
| 14:37.50 | George | to which I promptly replied "er. I only have 1GB of memory on my desktop..." |
| 14:37.51 | George | :) |
| 15:04.42 | Tangent | What do you need 1G of memory for,,,, "Well you see... any unused memory gets used as disk cache... and I have more than 1GB of files" |
| 15:05.19 | George | :) |
| 15:06.20 | Tangent | I'm off to look at House V2 (rc1) an about 90 mins :) |
| 15:06.28 | George | RC1? |
| 15:06.32 | George | oh |
| 15:06.34 | Tangent | Release Candidate 1 |
| 15:06.34 | George | release candidate 1 |
| 15:06.39 | George | heh |
| 15:06.41 | Tangent | Yeah.. I figure there will be others |
| 15:06.43 | George | where? |
| 15:06.47 | Tangent | Coulsdon |
| 15:06.53 | Tangent | about 5 miles south of here |
| 15:06.54 | George | where? |
| 15:06.55 | George | :) |
| 15:06.56 | George | oh |
| 15:06.59 | George | even further out |
| 15:07.00 | George | bah |
| 15:07.04 | Tangent | 5.1 Miles from door to door |
| 15:07.20 | George | we're moving house next year, apparently |
| 15:07.27 | George | my parents are looking at houses in cambridgehsire |
| 15:07.50 | Tangent | Heg.. even further out :) |
| 15:08.00 | George | Heg? |
| 15:08.07 | Tangent | typo |
| 15:08.14 | Tangent | Heh |
| 15:08.22 | George | well |
| 15:08.32 | George | by that time I hopefully won't be living at home anymore |
| 15:08.43 | George | when I get to university, I have plans of leaving home :) |
| 15:09.04 | Tangent | Nod.. It's good to go and stand on your own two feet for a while |
| 15:09.11 | Tangent | I never regretted leaving home |
| 15:09.15 | George | :) |
| 15:09.21 | Tangent | Whole heap of fun |
| 15:09.30 | George | heh |
| 15:09.39 | Tangent | Even if it did involve being utterly skint for four years (whilst at uni) |
| 15:09.45 | George | quite frankly, I'm fed up of shifting stuff between school/home |
| 15:09.50 | George | and I'm not going to do it at uni... |
| 15:10.00 | Tangent | You'll still have to do that when you're in halls |
| 15:10.11 | George | not if I'm at cambridge... |
| 15:10.11 | Tangent | but only at the end of year |
| 15:10.18 | George | I can pay extra to live there during the holidays |
| 15:10.22 | George | I have friends who did that |
| 15:10.34 | Tangent | Ah.. You could do that at Kent too.. but I was too tight |
| 15:11.05 | George | but that all depends on whether I get in or not |
| 15:11.20 | Tangent | I'm going back to the old halls for residence for the weekend (this weekend)... Meeting up with old uni mates |
| 15:11.28 | Tangent | we do it every couple of years... just for a laugh |
| 15:11.32 | George | heh |
| 15:11.37 | George | let me guess, you all go to the pub? :) |
| 15:11.42 | George | "just like old times" |
| 15:11.53 | Tangent | Yep |
| 15:12.01 | George | how did I know? :) |
| 15:12.01 | Tangent | And the Bars in the halls |
| 15:12.17 | George | I wonder what halls are like |
| 15:13.07 | Tangent | The ones at Kent were designed by the same guy who made 'The Maze' prison |
| 15:13.18 | George | hahaha |
| 15:13.30 | Tangent | The height of luxury accomodation |
| 15:13.37 | George | one of the houses at Harrow was designed by a prison architect |
| 15:13.49 | Tangent | I repeat... The height of luxury accomodation |
| 15:13.54 | George | :) |
| 15:14.10 | George | is the mail filtering OK, btw? |
| 15:14.15 | Tangent | They're never designed by hotel architects |
| 15:14.21 | George | heh |
| 15:14.22 | Tangent | I haven't looked yet I'm afraid |
| 15:14.30 | George | my house at school was designed by the first house master. |
| 15:14.38 | George | the first house custom built as a boarding house |
| 16:19.24 | George | Tangent: you around? |
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| 17:49.43 | George | hrmm. I wonder when RC1 will be finished. |
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| 21:43.11 | Tangent | George, I'm around now |
| 21:43.18 | Tangent | rc1 was a bit of a let-down to be honest |
| 21:48.22 | George | hey |
| 21:48.24 | George | ok |
| 21:48.31 | George | I'm trying to set up a netinst server on linux |
| 21:48.33 | George | first problem |
| 21:48.44 | George | how the HELL do I mount an iso image's 2nd slice? |
| 21:49.05 | Tangent | No idea I'm afraid |
| 21:49.10 | George | bah |
| 21:52.45 | George | ok, screw that |
| 21:54.42 | George | I gave my sparc keyboard a good clean with some alcohol :D |
| 21:55.03 | George | took all the keycaps off... vacuumed the inside... cleaned each keycap with alcohol.. then snapped them back onto the keyboard |
| 21:59.29 | George | while searching around on bbc news... I saw an interesting past article |
| 21:59.52 | George | some girl who got rejected from oxford or cambridge and decided that it was unfair and so "vowed to win the Nobel Prize" |
| 22:16.00 | George | Tangent: know much about partitions then? |
| 22:27.02 | Tangent | Not about solaris partitions.. they're weird |
| 22:28.57 | George | heh |
| 22:29.06 | George | I meant about normal PC partitions |
| 22:29.38 | George | carbon george # fdisk -l ./sol-9-u7-install-sparc.iso |
| 22:29.38 | George | Disk ./sol-9-u7-install-sparc.iso (Sun disk label): 1 heads, 640 sectors, 2048 cylinders |
| 22:29.41 | George | Units = cylinders of 640 * 512 bytes |
| 22:29.43 | George | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:29.46 | George | ./sol-9-u7-install-sparc.iso1 r 0 1 320 4 SunOS usr |
| 22:29.50 | George | ./sol-9-u7-install-sparc.iso2 r 1 2085 666880 2 SunOS root |
| 22:29.52 | George | ./sol-9-u7-install-sparc.iso3 2085 2093 2560 0 Empty |
| 22:29.55 | George | ./sol-9-u7-install-sparc.iso4 2093 2101 2560 0 Empty |
| 22:29.57 | George | ./sol-9-u7-install-sparc.iso5 2101 2109 2560 0 Empty |
| 22:30.00 | George | ./sol-9-u7-install-sparc.iso6 2109 2117 2560 0 Empty |
| 22:30.03 | George | that's an fdisk output for the ISO image |
| 22:30.05 | George | how would I use dd to split off the second partition? |
| 23:11.56 | Tangent | something like 'dd if=./sol-9-u7-install-sparc.iso of=part2.iso bs=1024 skip=1 count=666880 |
| 23:14.26 | George | ok |
| 23:14.29 | George | today is results day. |
| 23:15.08 | Tangent | A few hours until you find out how many A*(Turbo Ultra II) you managed to get |
| 23:30.16 | George | heh |