| 00:01:15 | Disconnect | biggest problem is nobody knows how CE organizes flash. |
| 00:01:34 | Disconnect | but in theory bootblaster could read something as a ramdisk image, using CE filesystem calls, and then go from there. |
| 00:15:19 | flypiper | sorry, I was looking for a usb driver for my nat box |
| 00:15:37 | flypiper | looks like she is a winner..ipkg update finished |
| 00:16:08 | Disconnect | cool :) |
| 00:17:31 | flypiper | yea it is...you do good work |
| 00:17:53 | Disconnect | heh. |
| 00:19:06 | flypiper | what would the address or ID of a wireless card be? |
| 00:19:16 | Disconnect | ..? |
| 00:19:33 | Disconnect | wireless stuff has a boatload of addys. mac addy, ip addy, station id.. |
| 00:20:09 | flypiper | A friend gave me the compaq ipaq home wireless unit..and I just put it in my ipaq.. |
| 00:21:00 | flypiper | cardmgr[78] product info: compaq, 11mps wirless pc card, ver.. |
| 00:21:32 | flypiper | manfid: 0x028a, 0x002 function 6 (network) |
| 00:22:02 | flypiper | looks like it has been recognized...where can I find config info? |
| 00:22:42 | flypiper | this would be sweet if I can get it to work |
| 00:37:15 | flypiper | Ill figure it out..thanks |
| 00:39:27 | Disconnect | /etc/pcmcia/config |
| 00:42:20 | flypiper | with the params file in /boot ...after you change it to boot intimate....if the HD is not inserted in the ipaq at boot will it boot fam? |
| 00:42:31 | Disconnect | yep |
| 00:42:33 | flypiper | or just hang? |
| 00:42:39 | Disconnect | linuxrc.intimate tries for intimate, then boots fam |
| 00:42:51 | flypiper | great! |
| 00:43:00 | Disconnect | should know, he wrote it ;) |
| 00:44:30 | flypiper | is configuring familiar....don't know why... |
| 00:44:30 | flypiper | you got anything else for me? |
| 00:44:48 | Disconnect | just #Kiss if you are interested in providing feedback |
| 00:45:26 | flypiper | OK ill go there |
| 02:36:20 | JamieBecker | help!! |
| 02:36:23 | JamieBecker | is anyone around? |
| 02:36:33 | sgodsell | peep |
| 02:36:39 | JamieBecker | i just install qpe on my intimate and now I can't log in via serial or ssh |
| 02:36:44 | JamieBecker | networking is working |
| 02:36:56 | JamieBecker | when I log in with serial, it asks for login but not password |
| 02:37:09 | JamieBecker | denies login four times but never asked for password |
| 02:37:18 | JamieBecker | did installing qpe screw up pam or something? |
| 02:38:13 | JamieBecker | is anyone there? |
| 02:38:24 | sgodsell | What version of QPE? |
| 02:38:51 | JamieBecker | umm...i'm not sure. i installed ipkg and pointed it at http://qpe.sourceforge.net/packages/ipaq |
| 02:39:38 | sgodsell | 1.4.0 |
| 02:40:02 | JamieBecker | yep just saw that ok |
| 02:40:09 | JamieBecker | (qpe-base right?) |
| 02:40:16 | sgodsell | Hmm, I know it install stuff in lib, etc, actually almost all over |
| 02:40:30 | sgodsell | It has been a long time since I installed QPE |
| 02:40:45 | JamieBecker | although it doesn't much matter, the add/remove software icon doesn't actually add them to the desktop |
| 02:40:57 | JamieBecker | i installed it on familiar a while ago. it was cool |
| 02:41:55 | JamieBecker | i'm writing a knowledge brief for TLG (here in compaq) and present it on monday and talk about how cool it is. :-( bummer |
| 02:42:30 | JamieBecker | Tangent, Disconnect, anyone have any ideas? |
| 02:42:43 | JamieBecker | sounds like my pam setup is hosed, but i don't know |
| 02:43:01 | JamieBecker | tried installing ash, (via the add/remove) but what do i do if i can't even log into it. |
| 02:43:13 | JamieBecker | maybe i can boot into familiar and mount the drive. |
| 02:43:54 | JamieBecker | any idea where in the boot sequence i can make it optional to boot intimate? (i.e., so i don't have to have intimate necessarily load if the microdrive isn't handy.) |
| 02:47:16 | JamieBecker | alrighty i'm going to take a break from this gosh-darned newfangled piece of tomfoolery. ;-) |
| 02:54:16 | sgodsell | JamieBecker: Do you have a CF card or pcmcia drive? Did you make a backup before hand? |
| 02:55:46 | Disconnect | JamieBecker: what linuxrc.intimate does is try to boot intimate, and fall back to familiar if it fails |
| 02:55:48 | Disconnect | so no issues |
| 03:02:13 | JamieBecker | no :-) fresh (re)install of intimate, so no loss |
| 03:02:25 | JamieBecker | Disconnect: cool |
| 03:02:37 | JamieBecker | so i should boot familiar and then manually mount intimate |
| 03:02:45 | JamieBecker | and then look at /etc/pam.d? |
| 03:05:20 | Disconnect | ..? |
| 03:06:35 | JamieBecker | pam.d -- pluggable authentication modules... |
| 03:07:00 | Disconnect | right. what are you trying to do? |
| 03:07:44 | JamieBecker | sorry...trying to figure out why i can't log in either remotely or via serial. get login: and enter root, but no prompt to enter password before it starts saying login denied |
| 03:08:03 | JamieBecker | it says that four times (the fourth time says max number of tries) and then drops back to login: |
| 03:08:19 | Disconnect | um. odd. wait. edit /etc/securetty |
| 03:08:23 | Disconnect | add /dev/ttySA0 |
| 03:09:12 | JamieBecker | ok |
| 03:09:21 | JamieBecker | brb |
| 03:12:38 | JamieBecker | already there |
| 03:13:27 | JamieBecker | actually i think if it wasn't there, it wouldn't let on to the fact that there was a user name root, it'd prompt for password. no, this is weirder |
| 03:13:44 | Disconnect | already there.. oddness. |
| 03:13:45 | Disconnect | kicks tangent |
| 03:13:54 | Disconnect | has no idea.. |
| 03:15:17 | JamieBecker | i think it's in pam.d...bunch of files changed. i think it's trying to authenticate against a non-existent pam |
| 03:32:02 | jamieson | sh-2.03# chroot /root/hda /usr/sbin/adduser jamie |
| 03:32:02 | jamieson | Adding user jamie... |
| 03:32:02 | jamieson | Adding new group jamie (1001). |
| 03:32:02 | jamieson | Adding new user jamie (1001) with group jamie. |
| 03:32:02 | jamieson | Home directory /home/jamie already exists. Not copying from /etc/skel |
| 03:32:02 | jamieson | passwd: Module is unknown |
| 03:32:04 | jamieson | adduser: `passwd jamie' returned error code 10. Aborting. |
| 03:32:06 | jamieson | Cleaning up. |
| 03:32:08 | jamieson | Removing user `jamie'. |
| 03:32:10 | jamieson | Removing group `jamie'. |
| 03:32:12 | jamieson | groupdel: group jamie does not exist |
| 03:32:15 | Disconnect | sounds like you fsckered it but good. |
| 03:32:19 | Disconnect | s/you/something/ |
| 03:32:29 | jamieson | ;-) |
| 03:32:36 | jamieson | yeah pretty cool huh |
| 03:32:41 | jamieson | is proud of himself |
| 03:32:54 | Disconnect | hehe |
| 03:33:19 | jamieson | grins sheepishly and looks for something else to break |
| 03:33:46 | jamieson | listen: passwd: Module is unknown sounds like a pam problem, do you agree? |
| 03:33:51 | Disconnect | yep |
| 03:34:29 | jamieson | check this out... |
| 03:34:52 | Disconnect | is afraid of you ;) |
| 03:34:55 | jamieson | sh-2.03# ls -al pam.d/ |
| 03:34:55 | jamieson | total 52 |
| 03:34:55 | jamieson | drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 360 Dec 2 03:20 . |
| 03:34:55 | jamieson | drwxr-xr-x 38 root root 2944 Dec 2 03:29 .. |
| 03:34:55 | jamieson | -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 306 Nov 26 21:50 chfn |
| 03:34:56 | jamieson | -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 509 Nov 26 21:50 chsh |
| 03:34:59 | jamieson | -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 791 Nov 26 22:22 kde |
| 03:35:00 | jamieson | -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 100 Oct 28 17:38 kscreensaver |
| 03:35:02 | jamieson | -rw-rw-r-- 1 root root 4013 Dec 2 03:20 login |
| 03:35:04 | jamieson | -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 4013 Dec 2 03:20 login.bak |
| 03:35:06 | jamieson | -rw-rw-r-- 1 root root 4017 Nov 26 21:50 login.dpkg-old |
| 03:35:09 | jamieson | -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 341 Nov 26 21:50 other |
| 03:35:10 | jamieson | -rw-rw-r-- 1 root root 1242 Nov 26 21:50 passwd |
| 03:35:13 | jamieson | -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 182 Nov 26 21:50 ppp |
| 03:35:15 | jamieson | -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 765 Sep 13 22:04 ssh |
| 03:35:16 | jamieson | -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1388 Nov 26 21:50 su |
| 03:35:18 | jamieson | sh-2.03# |
| 03:35:21 | jamieson | ain't skeered ;-) |
| 03:35:43 | jamieson | is a texan now and darned if he ain't skeered of nuttin |
| 03:36:36 | jamieson | any of those differ from your intimate? (sorry if this is getting personal) |
| 03:36:40 | sgodsell | is away: sick baby |
| 03:50:39 | jamieson | Disconnect: could you upload your ls -l /etc/pam.d |
| 03:51:31 | Disconnect | root@intimate:/opt/task-boot/1.0/kiss# ls -l /etc/pam.d/ |
| 03:51:32 | Disconnect | total 60 |
| 03:51:32 | Disconnect | -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 306 Oct 11 13:16 chfn |
| 03:51:32 | Disconnect | -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 509 Oct 11 13:16 chsh |
| 03:51:32 | Disconnect | -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 197 Oct 7 01:05 cron |
| 03:51:32 | Disconnect | -rw-rw-r-- 1 root root 4013 Oct 11 13:16 login |
| 03:51:34 | Disconnect | -rw-rw-r-- 1 root root 4017 Oct 11 13:16 login.dpkg-old |
| 03:51:38 | Disconnect | -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 341 Oct 11 13:16 other |
| 03:51:40 | Disconnect | -rw-rw-r-- 1 root root 1242 Oct 11 13:16 passwd |
| 03:51:43 | Disconnect | -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 182 Oct 11 13:16 ppp |
| 03:51:44 | Disconnect | -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 126 Sep 6 03:24 samba |
| 03:51:48 | Disconnect | -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 126 Oct 30 21:59 samba.dpkg-new |
| 03:51:50 | Disconnect | -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 26 Sep 13 19:47 screen |
| 03:51:52 | Disconnect | -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 765 Sep 13 18:04 ssh |
| 03:51:54 | Disconnect | -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1386 Oct 11 19:13 su |
| 03:51:56 | Disconnect | -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 38 Apr 24 2001 sudo |
| 03:51:58 | Disconnect | -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 105 Nov 1 19:13 xscreensaver.dpkg-new |
| 03:54:03 | jamieson | maybe su? all the rest look same length |
| 04:04:12 | jamieson | Disconnect: could you upload your cat /etc/pam.d/su ? thx! |
| 05:14:06 | jamieson | Disconnect: could you upload your cat /etc/pam.d/su ? thx! |
| 05:15:04 | Disconnect | intimate.handhelds.org/disconnect/ |
| 05:21:13 | jamieson | thanks!! i think that's it -- # Uncomment this if you want wheel members to be able to |
| 05:21:13 | jamieson | # su without a password. |
| 05:21:13 | jamieson | auth sufficient pam_wheel.so trust |
| 05:21:18 | jamieson | was remmed out on mind |
| 05:21:22 | jamieson | s/mind/mine/ |
| 05:33:26 | greeno | is away: gym |
| 06:12:31 | Tangent | Disconnect : Just noticed your kick |
| 06:12:46 | Tangent | is not very responsive tonight |
| 06:16:46 | greeno | is back (gone 00:43:20) |
| 06:17:58 | jamieson | Tangent! hi! |
| 06:18:07 | jamieson | Tangent: you have a sec? |
| 07:23:58 | greeno | guys, why do you think I may be having a problem rotating the screen? |
| 08:15:07 | Tangent | prh : Morning |
| 08:15:16 | Tangent | greeno : Using the old Xfbdev ? |
| 08:16:34 | Tangent | greeno : Try the bits from here instead... http://intimate.handhelds.org/installer/randr/ |
| 08:39:43 | greeno | Tangent: thx - I'll take a look |
| 09:18:50 | greeno | Tangent: should I just copy those files over the old ones... I don't have an Xipaq bin there already |
| 09:21:23 | prh | tangent: what are you doing up now? |
| 09:22:09 | BBrox | Hmpf |
| 09:22:23 | BBrox | Does one need a newer LILO version for bzImage kernels ? |
| 12:08:48 | greeno | ping |
| 12:11:51 | greeno | guys - any ideas on how to get python-gtk installed? Broken deps are borking me atm |
| 13:34:28 | Tangent | prh : I was sleeping/watching TV when you asked |
| 13:34:41 | Tangent | prh : Now I'm thinking about python code again |
| 14:15:09 | Tangent | goes off to watch TV for a bit |
| 15:05:44 | Omar | yo all |
| 15:05:46 | Omar | Tangent! |
| 15:57:56 | EGg0 | is away: I'm reading a book. Do you remember books? |
| 16:28:01 | sgodsell | is away: bbl |
| 18:59:33 | sgodsell | is back (gone 02:31:32) |
| 20:29:06 | sgodsell | is away: I have got to go! |