| 03:51:05 | finalfantasydog | hi |
| 03:51:07 | finalfantasydog | i work on the intimate distro |
| 03:51:08 | finalfantasydog | doing web work |
| 07:37:46 | finalfantasydog | what's that? |
| 07:37:47 | finalfantasydog | s;eep? |
| 08:21:25 | Tangent | wakes up |
| 08:21:48 | jacques | Tangent: yo. I got freedos booting on my ipaq under bochs |
| 08:22:02 | Tangent | Cool :) |
| 08:22:10 | Tangent | That's good :) |
| 08:22:24 | Tangent | I wonder if we can get LemmingaCGA to run ? |
| 08:22:58 | jacques | Tangent: bochs is incredibly slow |
| 08:23:19 | Tangent | jacques : As long as it can emulate a 4Mhz 8086, then lemmings will run fine |
| 08:23:35 | jacques | and AFAICT doesn't support any res lower than vga :-( |
| 08:23:43 | Tangent | Should be fine... It used to work on my amiga and that only had a 7MHz CPU |
| 08:23:49 | Tangent | Lemminga only wants CGA |
| 08:23:58 | Tangent | Hmm |
| 08:24:08 | Tangent | jacques : Screenshot please :) |
| 08:24:13 | jacques | Tangent: bochs is a PC emulator written in C++ |
| 08:24:22 | Tangent | Nod... I knew that |
| 08:24:34 | jacques | Tangent: it runs at about 1MHz on a PII400 |
| 08:24:39 | Tangent | Ah |
| 08:24:48 | Tangent | Kinda slower than I expected |
| 08:24:58 | jacques | no screen shot because I had to build it in terminal mode |
| 08:25:13 | jacques | because I didn't want to deal with the 640x480 window it creates |
| 08:25:33 | Tangent | Must be very challenging to emulate an 8086 on an 80x86... Lots of work to do decoding the instructions and putting them in a format that the 80x86 can use ;) |
| 08:25:44 | jacques | yeah, I'm still trying to figure if I did something wrong to get it to be so slow, but that's what the faq said |
| 08:26:11 | jacques | Tangent: they emulate the whole proc and bios and hard drives, floppied everything |
| 08:26:13 | Tangent | Myabe it's hardware level emulation... move this bit from this register to that register etc.. |
| 08:26:23 | jacques | Tangent: i think so |
| 08:26:30 | Tangent | Ack.. no wonder it's slow |
| 08:27:27 | Tangent | Cool... ffd has the new shots on the site :) |
| 08:27:39 | jacques | looking |
| 08:28:01 | Tangent | Hmm.. the thumbs for the portrait piccies are in landsape mode |
| 08:28:41 | Tangent | Hmm.. none of the shots with the fonts fixed have made it up yet... |
| 08:28:48 | jacques | hmmm, still the KDE pics with the bad fonts |
| 08:28:53 | Tangent | But still looks better than it was :) |
| 08:29:15 | Tangent | jacques : Did you try out KDE on your iPAQ yet? |
| 08:29:43 | jacques | Tangent: no |
| 08:29:59 | Tangent | The tetris pic is missing too... Just a thumb there... I guess ffd's still uploading stuff as we speak |
| 08:32:07 | finalfantasydog | ? |
| 08:32:19 | Tangent | Hi finalfantasydog |
| 08:32:24 | finalfantasydog | hey |
| 08:32:28 | jacques | i think there must be something wrong with my bochs |
| 08:32:40 | jacques | because it is a lot slowedr than it should be |
| 08:32:44 | Tangent | finalfantasydog : how's it going.. I see you've made some changes... excellent :) |
| 08:32:56 | finalfantasydog | oh yes |
| 08:33:02 | finalfantasydog | i didn't relize there was no screenshots up |
| 08:33:03 | finalfantasydog | on your page |
| 08:33:40 | Tangent | my page? Which page, which server? |
| 08:33:52 | finalfantasydog | ack |
| 08:33:53 | finalfantasydog | i mean new |
| 08:33:55 | finalfantasydog | not no |
| 08:33:57 | finalfantasydog | sorry |
| 08:34:00 | finalfantasydog | i need sleep badly |
| 08:34:01 | finalfantasydog | just about to |
| 08:34:09 | finalfantasydog | after i upload this pic |
| 08:34:20 | Tangent | Nod... I might have a go at the screenshots page whilst you're asleep then... |
| 08:34:49 | Tangent | Replace the broken font piccies with working font piccies etc... |
| 08:34:57 | finalfantasydog | okay that's fine |
| 08:35:05 | finalfantasydog | that will be good |
| 08:35:27 | Tangent | OK.. I'll do it then :) |
| 08:36:33 | finalfantasydog | keep thumbs the same size though |
| 08:37:13 | Tangent | Nod.. but I'll make the portrait thumbs in portrait... 75x100 instead of 100x75 |
| 08:38:15 | finalfantasydog | yeah |
| 08:38:16 | finalfantasydog | that's good |
| 08:38:19 | finalfantasydog | uhh |
| 08:39:19 | finalfantasydog | okay |
| 08:39:20 | finalfantasydog | night |
| 08:54:40 | jacques | Calibrating delay loop.. ok - 0.82 BogoMIPS |
| 08:55:07 | Tangent | Not fast :) |
| 08:55:50 | jacques | nod |
| 08:55:57 | jacques | and that's on my PC |
| 08:56:17 | jacques | Calibrating delay loop... 18.07 BogoMIPS |
| 08:56:23 | jacques | that's with a differnt disk image |
| 08:56:29 | jacques | i think I need to mess with this some more |
| 09:04:52 | Tangent | BBIAB.. going to the shops for a bit... |
| 09:05:27 | jacques | cool |
| 09:06:17 | jacques | heh, there's just something wrong with the freedos image |
| 09:06:24 | jacques | because the linux images are much faster |
| 10:03:16 | RichB | Het Tangent |
| 10:03:20 | RichB | Hey Tangent |
| 10:03:38 | jacques | RichB: Tangent went to shops - he will be back soon |
| 10:05:38 | RichB | jacques : Thx - will soldier on on my own ;) |
| 10:22:59 | Tangent | comes back |
| 10:23:11 | Tangent | But RichB's gone now... damn |
| 10:23:19 | Tangent | Have these people no patience? |
| 10:24:00 | jacques | shrugs |
| 10:24:26 | jacques | plays with his virtual 486 linux machine running in hi sipaq |
| 10:25:53 | Tangent | Dude.. You want to install windows2000 on it now ;) |
| 10:26:14 | jacques | heh :-) |
| 10:26:16 | Tangent | Show them microsoft kiddies how it's done ;) |
| 10:26:26 | jacques | win2000 does not support 486 |
| 10:26:45 | jacques | though I could compile bochs to emulate a pentium |
| 10:26:49 | Tangent | Really... Never knew that... |
| 10:27:18 | jacques | you can choose 386, 486, or pentium |
| 10:28:10 | jacques | i was running 386 but there were complaints in the logs about math not being properly supported in processors < 4 |
| 10:28:16 | jacques | so I recompiled with 4 |
| 10:28:40 | jacques | first i compiled with no FP emulation, but linux images wouldn't boot :-) |
| 10:28:49 | jacques | right now I'm giving the virtual machine 8MB RAM |
| 10:29:09 | Tangent | Should be able to get W95 started on that... just... |
| 10:29:16 | jacques | i should try the virtual NE2000 |
| 10:29:19 | Tangent | As long as it can have some swap space ;) |
| 10:29:28 | jacques | :-) |
| 10:29:49 | jacques | i really wish it supported EGA |
| 10:29:56 | jacques | that would rock because it would fit on the screen |
| 10:30:09 | Tangent | Yep.. that'd be cool :) |
| 10:31:44 | jacques | hmm, I'm looking for infocom games |
| 10:32:04 | jacques | they are not nearly as easy to find as they used to be |
| 10:39:36 | Tangent | some of the stuff here might run OK http://pluto.spaceports.com/~godork/legal/ |
| 10:40:16 | jacques | i just found some |
| 10:40:45 | Tangent | Heh... zork would work fine... |
| 10:40:52 | Tangent | and by infocom too :) |
| 10:41:15 | jacques | Tangent: I'm not a warez person at all, but it's nearly impossible to buy these anymore |
| 10:41:22 | jacques | all the cds are out of production |
| 10:41:30 | jacques | i feel the same way about arcade roms |
| 10:42:06 | Tangent | jacques : These are legal for download.... |
| 10:42:43 | jacques | Tangent: I want the real ones though, sorry I'm being stubborn |
| 10:42:54 | jacques | i just found hitchiker, planetfall, etc. |
| 10:43:07 | Tangent | Hmm.. no-chance.... That's why they've become abandonware |
| 11:09:10 | Tangent | Well.. in the middle of updating, but here's a bit of the work in progress.... |
| 11:09:11 | Tangent | http://intimate.handhelds.org/screens.html |
| 11:09:26 | jacques | >look out window |
| 11:09:27 | jacques | As you part your curtains you see that it's a bright morning, the sun is |
| 11:09:27 | jacques | shining, the birds are singing, the meadows are blooming, and a large yellow |
| 11:09:27 | jacques | bulldozer is advancing on your home. |
| 11:09:35 | jacques | :-) |
| 11:09:48 | Tangent | Heh... bit of douglas adams there :) |
| 11:10:15 | jacques | nod, it's the hitchiker infocom game |
| 11:10:23 | jacques | screens page looks good now |
| 11:10:37 | Tangent | I'm gonna make some more shots... |
| 11:10:48 | Tangent | The matrix screensaver has to go on there.. The iPAQ looks cool using that :) |
| 11:11:46 | jacques | I need to run bochs in a tiny font rxvt and take a shot of that :-) |
| 11:12:08 | Tangent | Yep... the more shots we get, the better :) |
| 11:13:04 | jacques | absolutely |
| 11:16:19 | jacques | heh, I discovered that wmfishtime segfaults if nwfpe is not loaded |
| 11:16:52 | Tangent | No surprise there... we suspected it used FP for the clock hands |
| 11:17:39 | jacques | yeah, but the fastfpe stuff is not good enough |
| 11:18:13 | Tangent | Nod.. I didn't think the FastFPE stuff was good for anything other than letting you boot and load NWFPE |
| 11:18:46 | jacques | oh, I didn't know it was that bad. configure.help imples it's useable |
| 11:21:05 | Tangent | I think it's like..... 1.0/2=0.500003274 |
| 12:31:16 | Tangent | jacques : Try now... http://intimate.handhelds.org/screens.html |
| 12:33:21 | Tangent | I'll have to do some more blackbox shots now to make up for all the KDE ones :) |
| 12:33:27 | Tangent | or you will :) |
| 12:33:41 | Tangent | How do your fonts look under blackbox with the latest X server? |
| 14:03:06 | RichB_UK | Hey Tangent - You around? |
| 17:47:55 | Tangent | ibot message for RichB_UK : I should be around from midnight until about 5AM |
| 17:48:02 | Tangent | ibot message for RichB : I should be around from midnight until about 5AM |
| 22:39:52 | Tangent | Hi |
| 22:39:58 | spse | watcha |
| 22:40:46 | | I haven't seen 'the', Tangent |
| 22:40:46 | Tangent | spse : Seen the latest shots? http://intimate.handhelds.org/screens.html |
| 22:41:20 | | Tangent: huh? |
| 22:41:20 | Tangent | ibot : I don't believe that anyone was talking to you.. Shut Up! |
| 22:42:09 | Tangent | spse : Yeah.. I need to get some more shots of blackbox in there. |
| 22:43:19 | spse | Tangent: could you grab mtdblkdev.c from your vaio and stick it on a server as it has my latest fixes in |
| 22:44:47 | | jacques: huh? |
| 22:44:47 | jacques | ibot: privacy mode |
| 22:46:00 | | Sorry, Tangent, I'll keep my mouth shut. |
| 22:46:00 | Tangent | ibot shutup |
| 22:54:27 | Tangent | jacques : You should put up some news on the web pages to say the you got Bochs working :) |
| 22:55:13 | jacques | Tangent: yes, I want to get some screen shots first. :-) |
| 22:55:33 | Tangent | jacques @ Yep.. screenshots are essential of course :) |
| 22:55:45 | jacques | yep :-) |
| 22:55:59 | jacques | heh, how about one of freebsd running under bochs on the ipaq? |
| 22:56:10 | Tangent | That'd be cool :) |
| 22:56:39 | jacques | ok, I'll dl the images |