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| 05:11.49 | wyre | off to bed, play nice |
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| 12:28.18 | mohamed_ | hello all. i only deal with bot before as user , now i want to install my bot , i like the way ubuntu bot working is it possible to make blootbot behave like it, e.g when asking about something i write !word ? |
| 12:30.22 | quin | yes |
| 12:30.40 | quin | you define factoids and call them with the address char |
| 12:30.48 | quin | eg FactBot uses $ instead of ! |
| 12:31.35 | quin | FactBot, blahblah is <reply>Get a life, $nick! |
| 12:31.36 | FactBot | quin: okay |
| 12:31.42 | quin | $blahblah |
| 12:31.42 | FactBot | Get a life, quin! |
| 12:31.53 | quin | FactBot, forget blahblah |
| 12:32.08 | mohamed_ | quin: and i add factoids to mysql manual or there is command for this ? |
| 12:32.19 | quin | 22:31.37 <quin> FactBot, blahblah is <reply>Get a life, $nick! |
| 12:32.25 | quin | ^- that was be setting 'blahblah' |
| 12:32.28 | quin | s/be/me/ |
| 12:33.20 | mohamed_ | is there documentation for this ? |
| 12:33.40 | quin | $+help |
| 12:33.41 | FactBot | I learn mainly by observing declarative statements such as "x is at http://www.xxx.com", and then reply when people ask things like "where can i find x?" |
| 12:33.42 | FactBot | 36 topics: action, addressing, alternation, author, babelfish, banadd, bandel, botmail, chanadd, chandel, chaninfo, chanset, chanunset, chattr, chnick, chpass, contents, cookie, corrections, cpustats, crypt, cycle, dauthor, dbugs, ddesc, dfind, dict, dns, do, dollar variables, dstats, factinfo, factstats, flags, forget, freshmeat |
| 12:33.42 | FactBot | 39 topics: hex, hex2ip, hostadd, hostdel, httpdtype, ignore, ircstats, join, karma, kernel, kick, lart, lc, listauth, listkeys, listvalues, literal, lobotomy, lock, main, math, md5, mode, news, news add, news del, news mod, news set, news set expire, nickometer, onjoin, ord, page, part, piglatin, quote, redirection, rename, reply |
| 12:33.45 | FactBot | 30 topics: reverse, rot13, rssfeeds, say, scramble, search, seen, slashdot, spell, status, tell, topic, topic add, topic del, topic mod, topic mv, topic restore, uc, unforget, unlobotomy, unlock, upsidedown, uptime, useradd, userdel, verstats, wantnick, whois, wikipedia, wtf |
| 12:35.18 | quin | $+help dollar variables |
| 12:35.20 | FactBot | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:35.20 | FactBot | $Fdunno - ... |
| 12:35.21 | FactBot | $Fquestion - ... |
| 12:35.21 | FactBot | $Fupdate - ... |
| 12:35.22 | FactBot | $channel - channel from which the factoid was requested |
| 12:35.22 | FactBot | $date - current date (GMT) |
| 12:35.23 | FactBot | $day - day of week (full name, locale) |
| 12:35.25 | FactBot | $factoids - factoid count |
| 12:35.27 | FactBot | $host - hostname of factoid requester |
| 12:35.29 | FactBot | $ident - bot nick |
| 12:35.31 | FactBot | $lastspeaker - ... |
| 12:35.33 | FactBot | $memusage - ... |
| 12:35.35 | FactBot | $rand - random number, also $rand100.2 |
| 12:35.37 | FactBot | $randnick - random nick |
| 12:35.39 | FactBot | $startTime - start time |
| 12:35.41 | FactBot | $time - current time (GMT) |
| 12:35.43 | FactBot | $uptime - ... |
| 12:35.45 | FactBot | $user - username of factoid requester |
| 12:35.47 | FactBot | $who - nick of factoid requester |
| 12:36.29 | mohamed_ | nice this realy helpful at least i know how to use help |
| 12:43.24 | quin | hehe |
| 12:43.28 | quin | FactBot, crap is <reply>They've filled my head with $factoids (useless bits of information|pieces of crap|piles of garbage)! |
| 12:43.29 | FactBot | okay, quin |
| 12:43.30 | quin | !crap |
| 12:43.35 | quin | $crap |
| 12:43.36 | FactBot | They've filled my head with 98 piles of garbage! |
| 13:19.13 | troubled | having fun i see :) |
| 13:19.33 | troubled | dont make me rig the bot for silent running :p |
| 13:19.56 | troubled | actually, theres a bug with that +silent I gotta track down on the test net :/ |
| 13:22.20 | troubled | mohamed_eat: are you using blootbot or infobot btw? |
| 13:23.07 | troubled | blootbot was rebranded back to infobot again a while ago and has a few patches compared, some somewhat worth having compared to blootbot |
| 13:25.32 | wyre | $backwards coffee! |
| 13:25.55 | wyre | .. |
| 13:26.01 | wyre | $upsidedown coffee! |
| 13:26.03 | FactBot | ¡ÇÇÉÉoÉ |
| 13:30.28 | troubled | i need new fonts :/ |
| 13:30.57 | troubled | $reverse coffee |
| 13:30.59 | FactBot | eeffoc |
| 13:31.22 | wyre | cffoee |
| 13:31.38 | troubled | $piglatin I need some coffee! |
| 13:31.40 | FactBot | Iway eednay omesay offeecay! |
| 13:32.02 | wyre | coffee |
| 13:32.36 | troubled | wyre: you know, i got a better bot for testing if your interested |
| 13:33.01 | wyre | does it have coffee? :) |
| 13:33.28 | troubled | meehbe ;) |
| 13:34.20 | troubled | wyre: its on infobot.doesntexist.org 6667 in #infobot though |
| 13:34.37 | troubled | where i usually do my spammy tests |
| 13:34.42 | troubled | or weird configs etc |
| 13:37.03 | wyre | i think we're okay for the mo - things are mostly under control so far |
| 13:38.44 | wyre | ...was confused with one thing though, I set ~beer $1 is <action> foo then she didn't want to set ~beer is <action> bar |
| 13:38.53 | wyre | thank yea though, |
| 13:39.23 | troubled | could be a reserved word, but i dont recall that one |
| 13:39.27 | troubled | $beer |
| 13:39.41 | troubled | $beer $1 is <action> gives $nick a beer |
| 13:39.42 | FactBot | troubled: okay |
| 13:40.01 | troubled | $beer is a tasty beverage for sure |
| 13:40.01 | FactBot | gives troubled a beer |
| 13:40.09 | troubled | interesting |
| 13:40.18 | troubled | factbot: beer is a tasty beverage for sure |
| 13:40.19 | FactBot | gives troubled a beer |
| 13:41.13 | wyre | mmm, off to lunch with that beer? |
| 13:41.16 | troubled | $blah |
| 13:41.19 | quin | FactBot, no, bee is a tasty beverage |
| 13:41.20 | FactBot | okay, quin |
| 13:41.25 | quin | FactBot, no, beer is a tasty beverage |
| 13:41.26 | FactBot | quin: okay |
| 13:41.31 | quin | bleh |
| 13:41.33 | quin | sorry |
| 13:41.40 | quin | i can't delete factoids either |
| 13:41.41 | troubled | $blah $1 is <action> test $1 |
| 13:41.42 | FactBot | okay, troubled |
| 13:41.53 | troubled | $blah is testing |
| 13:41.53 | FactBot | test is testing |
| 13:42.04 | troubled | thats not right at all :/ |
| 13:42.13 | wyre | match is being hit before the add? |
| 13:42.36 | quin | the regex is (.*?) remember |
| 13:42.40 | troubled | dont think its been like that long though |
| 13:42.54 | wyre | greedy match? |
| 13:43.31 | troubled | it should be stopping at "is" though |
| 13:43.53 | quin | not if the factoid already exists |
| 13:44.02 | troubled | $forget blah |
| 13:44.03 | FactBot | troubled: i didn't have anything called 'blah' to forget |
| 13:44.11 | troubled | $forget cmd: blah (.*?) |
| 13:44.12 | FactBot | i forgot cmd: blah (.*?), troubled |
| 13:44.13 | quin | then is becomes an invalid operation on it |
| 13:44.19 | troubled | $blah is testing |
| 13:44.19 | FactBot | okay, troubled |
| 13:44.24 | troubled | $blah $1 is <action> test $1 |
| 13:44.24 | FactBot | okay, troubled |
| 13:44.27 | troubled | $blah |
| 13:44.27 | FactBot | somebody said blah was testing |
| 13:44.31 | troubled | $blah me |
| 13:44.32 | FactBot | test troubled |
| 13:44.42 | wyre | ...so i had to set the non$1 'oid first |
| 13:44.43 | troubled | thats a kludge fix though |
| 13:44.50 | wyre | that seemed to work |
| 13:44.54 | troubled | seems so, wasnt always like that though |
| 13:45.02 | troubled | let me test on an older bot i know |
| 13:45.17 | wyre | don't forget a botsnack |
| 13:46.56 | troubled | hmm, the other bot is the same too, must have been like that for at least a few weeks, maybe longer |
| 13:47.46 | mohamed_ | re |
| 13:48.07 | mohamed_ | troubled: i was eating :) |
| 13:48.25 | mohamed_ | troubled: i only try blootbot from ubuntu repository |
| 13:48.43 | mohamed_ | this is what i find, because i had not experience before about it |
| 13:49.17 | troubled | mohamed_: you can download a tarball of a recent version of infobot from sourceforge |
| 13:49.41 | troubled | svn is a little newer though. holding off a bit on releasing 1.5.3 until a few more things are sorted out |
| 13:50.11 | mohamed_ | troubled: at night i will install it, and play with it |
| 13:50.43 | troubled | it should be practically the same. the only thing you will notice from a user perspective is that blootbot.config etc. got renamed to infobot.config etc |
| 13:51.55 | mohamed_ | i try run now my blootbot here i forget where i set channel :) |
| 13:53.07 | *** join/#infobot blootbot (n=root@41.235.155.61) |
| 13:53.19 | mohamed_ | this is my version |
| 13:53.25 | mohamed_ | blootbot: hi |
| 13:53.25 | blootbot | niihau, mohamed_ |
| 13:53.47 | wyre | ...there is a quote, about closed doors/open windows, anyone know the full bit? |
| 13:53.48 | troubled | oooh, good, a bot to test that bug :) |
| 13:53.51 | wyre | blootbot: 9/2 |
| 13:53.52 | blootbot | 4.5 |
| 13:54.06 | troubled | mohamed_: mind if i test 2 factoids? |
| 13:54.21 | mohamed_ | troubled: u r free is for testing :) |
| 13:54.26 | troubled | :) ta |
| 13:54.48 | troubled | blootbot: beer $1 is <action> gives $1 a beer |
| 13:54.49 | blootbot | okay, troubled |
| 13:55.04 | troubled | blootbot: beer is <reply> beer is my coffee! |
| 13:55.04 | blootbot | troubled: okay |
| 13:55.13 | wyre | blootbot: beer |
| 13:55.13 | blootbot | beer is my coffee! |
| 13:55.23 | troubled | well, definetly broke recently, think i might have an idea where |
| 13:55.24 | wyre | blootbot: beer troubled |
| 13:55.25 | blootbot | wyre: I don't know |
| 13:55.29 | troubled | :/ |
| 13:55.36 | troubled | blootbot: beer me |
| 13:55.37 | blootbot | troubled: Are you smoking crack? |
| 13:55.48 | wyre | blootbot: listkeys beer |
| 13:55.49 | blootbot | Factoid search of 'beer' by key (2 shown): beer ;; beer $1. |
| 13:56.07 | troubled | damn, that must be an ooooold blootbot then like debian has |
| 13:56.14 | troubled | before we even had version numbers heh |
| 13:56.38 | troubled | still, that is a bug that should be fixed i think |
| 13:56.50 | wyre | blootbot: literal beer $1 |
| 13:56.50 | blootbot | beer $1 is <action> gives $1 a beer |
| 13:57.08 | troubled | anyways, il take a look. im looking at the spot where that stuff is checked now, see what i can find |
| 13:57.21 | troubled | blootbot: forget beer $1 |
| 13:57.21 | blootbot | troubled: i forgot beer $1 |
| 13:57.25 | troubled | blootbot: forget beer |
| 13:57.26 | blootbot | troubled: i forgot beer |
| 13:57.31 | troubled | mohamed_: ta |
| 13:58.07 | mohamed_ | troubled: how to make when i type $word i get answer, i mean no need to write blootbot |
| 13:58.27 | troubled | mohamed_: need to set your addressCharacter to something else with chanset |
| 13:58.39 | troubled | its probably "~" right now |
| 13:58.44 | troubled | ~thanks |
| 13:58.44 | infobot | troubled: my pleasure |
| 13:58.44 | wyre | ~hello |
| 13:58.45 | infobot | Howdy Bub |
| 13:58.53 | wyre | blinks |
| 13:58.57 | troubled | well, that old bot might not have that yet |
| 13:59.04 | troubled | ~status |
| 13:59.04 | infobot | Since Mon May 19 15:39:05 2008, there have been 58 modifications, 372 questions, 0 dunnos, 0 morons and 226 commands. I have been awake for 2d 22h 19m 59s this session, and currently reference 114769 factoids. I'm using about 20404 kB of memory. With 0 active forks. Process time user/system 6967.66/277.69 child 0/0.01 |
| 13:59.12 | troubled | !hello |
| 13:59.38 | troubled | mohamed_: try: blootbot: chanset #infobot addressCharacter % |
| 14:00.18 | mohamed_ | blootbot: chanset #infobot addressCharacter % |
| 14:00.18 | blootbot | mohamed_: I haven't a clue |
| 14:02.03 | mohamed_ | another question when using dict |
| 14:02.05 | wyre | blootbot: botsnack |
| 14:02.07 | blootbot | :) |
| 14:02.10 | wyre | :) |
| 14:02.23 | mohamed_ | blootbot: dict hello |
| 14:02.36 | mohamed_ | blootbot: dict how |
| 14:02.37 | blootbot | Dictionary 'hello' an expression of greeting; "every morning they exchanged polite hellos" |
| 14:02.43 | blootbot | Dictionary 'how' (2 shown): to what extent or amount or degree; "how tall is she?" ;; in what way or manner or by what means (`however' is sometimes used as an intensive form of `how'); "how did you catch the snake?"; "he told us how he did it"; "however did you get here so soon?" . |
| 14:03.06 | mohamed_ | troubled: can i set dict to translate into another language ? |
| 14:03.53 | troubled | mohamed_: dict I just edited so it uses my local dictd install instead of a web based one at one point |
| 14:04.14 | troubled | so I guess if you installed a dictd that was in your language by default it could work, but ive only testing english stuff, sorry |
| 14:04.32 | mohamed_ | i think i have dict |
| 14:05.58 | troubled | mohamed_: if you look in the src/Modules directory in the bot, you should find a Dict.pl in there, and if you edit it, you should be able to change the url to your localhost instead |
| 14:06.27 | troubled | specifically, edit this line --> my $server = "dict.org"; |
| 14:06.39 | troubled | just change it to localhost if you got it running locally |
| 14:07.16 | troubled | although i am really assuming that it can default to a diff language locally, but ive never tried yet tbh (not that I speak anything but english heh) |
| 14:07.56 | troubled | actually, that dict.pl setting really should be in the main config. people shouldnt have to dig in the source to find settings like that |
| 14:08.02 | mohamed_ | sometimes i need germany translated to english :) |
| 14:08.19 | mohamed_ | i see it now |
| 14:08.27 | troubled | there is babel fish in the latest infobot, but it was broken recently and might still be broken in blootbot |
| 14:08.40 | troubled | $x en de good morning |
| 14:08.47 | FactBot | guten Morgen |
| 14:09.00 | mohamed_ | hmm |
| 14:09.07 | mohamed_ | i need to behave like this :) |
| 14:09.22 | troubled | as i said though, it was broken recently by a html change, so blootbot's version is probably dead too |
| 14:09.29 | mohamed_ | blootbot: dict hello |
| 14:10.04 | troubled | $dict hello |
| 14:10.07 | FactBot | Dictionary 'hello' (2 of 3): accost, address, bob, bow, curtsy, embrace, greeting, hail, hand-clasp, handshake, how-do-you-do, hug, kiss, nod, salutation, salute, smile, smile of recognition, wave ;; an expression of greeting; "every morning they exchanged polite hellos" . |
| 14:12.09 | mohamed_ | blootbot: dict hello |
| 14:12.28 | wyre | sooo how to get #1 & 3 of 3? |
| 14:12.49 | troubled | mohamed_: you might need to enable dict first for a channel. what does the console log show when you try that? |
| 14:12.59 | wyre | prefix with num |
| 14:13.07 | troubled | if its not enabled it will only say something like: cmdhooks: dict matched 'Dict' 'hello' |
| 14:13.15 | wyre | $dict 3 hello |
| 14:13.18 | FactBot | [3/3] accost, address, bob, bow, curtsy, embrace, greeting, hail, hand-clasp, handshake, how-do-you-do, hug, kiss, nod, salutation, salute, smile, smile of recognition, wave |
| 14:13.25 | wyre | $dict 2 hello |
| 14:13.27 | troubled | if it is enabled but failed, you will see: --- fork starting for 'Dict', PID == 26032, bot_pid == 17438 --- |
| 14:13.28 | FactBot | [2/3] an expression of greeting; "every morning they exchanged polite hellos" |
| 14:13.42 | wyre | $dict 1 hello |
| 14:13.45 | FactBot | [1/3] \Hel*lo"\, interj. & n. An exclamation used as a greeting, to call attention, as an exclamation of surprise, or to encourage one. This variant of {Halloo} and {Holloo} has become the dominant form. In the United States, it is the most common greeting used in answering a telephone. [1913 Webster +PJC] |
| 14:13.48 | troubled | wyre: spam! |
| 14:14.00 | wyre | troubled: fnord |
| 14:14.29 | mohamed_ | troubled: this is what consol say http://phpfi.com/318853 |
| 14:15.32 | troubled | mohamed_: hmm not sure then. thats a very old bot you're using after all :) |
| 14:15.57 | mohamed_ | then i need to install the new one :) |
| 14:16.04 | troubled | get yourself setup with a shiny infobot is probably better than trying to fix that old thing |
| 14:17.10 | troubled | mohamed_: but if your set on using that, change the url to localhost and apt-get install dictd |
| 14:17.42 | mohamed_ | troubled: i already havd dictd running because i use it locale for dictionary |
| 14:17.55 | troubled | mohamed_: did you change the ip to your localhost copy? |
| 14:18.31 | mohamed_ | troubled: my $server = "localhost"; #"dict.org"; # need a specific host||ip. |
| 14:18.49 | mohamed_ | maybe i need restart blootbot ? |
| 14:18.50 | troubled | whats the port set at in that file? |
| 14:18.55 | troubled | not for modules no |
| 14:19.07 | troubled | they get loaded every time you call em (forkers) |
| 14:19.07 | mohamed_ | 2628 |
| 14:19.20 | troubled | now check, is your dictd listening on that port too? |
| 14:19.39 | troubled | netstat -tlpn | grep 2628 |
| 14:20.13 | mohamed_ | tcp 0 0 0.0.0.0:2628 0.0.0.0:* LISTEN 5630/2 |
| 14:20.34 | troubled | hmm, should be working then |
| 14:21.06 | mohamed_ | maybe because i install more than language ? |
| 14:21.11 | troubled | unless ubuntu's dictd is diff than debians |
| 14:21.27 | mohamed_ | i think is the same |
| 14:21.32 | troubled | not sure that would matter unless its using english and just couldnt find the anser |
| 14:21.35 | troubled | $dict asjkhdfjg |
| 14:21.37 | FactBot | could not find definition for asjkhdfjg |
| 14:21.53 | troubled | well, aparently it reports errors, should be same in blootbot |
| 14:22.10 | blootbot | could not find definition for hello |
| 14:22.24 | troubled | wow lag heh |
| 14:22.31 | mohamed_ | :) |
| 14:22.46 | troubled | try again with a word in the language you have installed? |
| 14:23.17 | mohamed_ | blootbot: dict Ù
رØبا |
| 14:24.22 | mohamed_ | in console Dict: asking Wordnet. |
| 14:24.41 | troubled | blootbot: dict dictionary |
| 14:25.02 | mohamed_ | ok i think this is will be lost time first i install svn version then test it |
| 14:25.16 | troubled | ya, probably best |
| 14:28.20 | Breakz | any progress on babelfish, troubled? |
| 14:28.33 | troubled | Breakz: was fixed the other day |
| 14:28.56 | mohamed_ | troubled: maybe not stupid question but i don't know how to get svn version from this page http://infobot.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/infobot/ i only know the command line ? |
| 14:28.59 | Breakz | and then it wasnt again :p |
| 14:29.01 | troubled | 10:08 <+troubled> $x en de good morning |
| 14:29.03 | troubled | 10:08 <+FactBot> guten Morgen |
| 14:29.04 | Breakz | ~x nl en poep |
| 14:29.10 | Breakz | cool |
| 14:29.26 | Breakz | so i have to switch back the link i changed innit to astalavista's or yahoo's? |
| 14:29.27 | Breakz | has alook |
| 14:29.49 | troubled | mohamed_: svn co http://infobot.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/infobot/trunk ~/infobot |
| 14:30.01 | mohamed_ | thx troubled |
| 14:30.15 | troubled | Breakz: just svn revert the file |
| 14:30.21 | troubled | then svn update |
| 14:30.40 | Breakz | meh i just hanged the my $url line :p |
| 14:33.19 | Breakz | my $url = 'http://babelfish.altavista.digital.com/babelfish/tr'; <> is good? |
| 14:33.31 | troubled | Breakz: svn update! |
| 14:33.52 | Breakz | no i just know how to do svn checkout and i'm afraid im gonna mess up infobot XD |
| 14:34.03 | troubled | Breakz: you wont |
| 14:34.11 | troubled | Breakz: first: svn -R revert . |
| 14:34.29 | Breakz | svn -R revert http://infobot.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/infobot/trunk babelfish.pl |
| 14:34.29 | Breakz | ? |
| 14:34.35 | troubled | that will undo the changes youve made, then in the base dir again, run "svn update" |
| 14:34.39 | troubled | no, exactly what i typed |
| 14:34.53 | troubled | svn knows the url it needs |
| 14:35.37 | troubled | "svn status" should show the files that were edited with "M" |
| 14:36.03 | Breakz | ah, cool, so easy, thanks :) |
| 14:36.08 | troubled | :) |
| 14:36.32 | troubled | dont forget to reload/restart your bot. reload usually is enough, but sometimes you need ot restart since core files cant always reload properly |
| 14:36.47 | Breakz | i cant use reload, my owner stuff is all wrong i think |
| 14:36.50 | Breakz | so i restarted it :p |
| 14:37.16 | troubled | that works |
| 14:37.29 | troubled | if you ctcp version your bot, it should say 1.5.3 still |
| 14:37.44 | troubled | anything else and somethings not right |
| 14:37.48 | Breakz | yup |
| 14:37.51 | troubled | k |
| 14:37.53 | Breakz | i dunno what version i had anyways :p |
| 14:38.29 | troubled | well, the version reply could be done better so i can recognize what revision and stuff people have, but then we'd have to make sure we touched VERSION every update |
| 14:38.51 | troubled | and thats asking too much. plus we dont have svn hook access to code that kinda thing which sucks with sourceforge |
| 14:39.21 | Breakz | isnt the rev number set anywhere? |
| 14:39.35 | Breakz | and just add that to reply $revision, or w/e u guys use |
| 14:40.05 | troubled | well svn can replace $Id:$ with the rev, but then we have to be sure to touch and alter that file every commit for it to work |
| 14:40.24 | troubled | otherwise svn wont think the VERSION file where the number is from changed and thus wont update the rev |
| 14:40.44 | troubled | plus in svn, diff files will report diff id's. its the "last changed rev" really |
| 14:41.08 | troubled | that and we cant really put that $Id$ in every file in case it screws up some regex stuff |
| 14:41.18 | Breakz | why not make sorta config file for it where u have to do some small changes every update? |
| 14:41.25 | troubled | well, i think it stops after the first one, but still |
| 14:41.40 | troubled | Breakz: and make sure we never forget to update it? heh |
| 14:41.51 | Breakz | yea like |
| 14:41.51 | troubled | fat chance of that |
| 14:41.54 | Breakz | DONTFORGETTHIS.pl |
| 14:41.55 | Breakz | :p |
| 14:41.58 | troubled | lol |
| 14:42.57 | troubled | really all i care about is allowing it to report a 1.5.3b or 1.5.3-trunk or something if they are using trunk |
| 14:43.43 | troubled | technically the version in trunk in the VERSION file isnt neccessarily the version that will be released though. its just a temp incriment until version number is decided |
| 14:43.52 | Breakz | or just every change u do on the life/new version a new version nr |
| 14:43.55 | Breakz | 1.5.31 |
| 14:43.56 | Breakz | 1.5.32 |
| 14:43.58 | Breakz | etc :p |
| 14:44.16 | troubled | not a big fan of that setup |
| 14:45.03 | troubled | the way we got now I know works because im the only one that will likely tag a release and pick the version when I do |
| 14:45.34 | troubled | else every dev will just randomly start puting in whatever numbers he feels like and we'll have a real mess |
| 14:46.04 | troubled | one day it will be 1.5.3, next day someone will change a typo and release a 1.6, then the next guy will snap out a 2.1 or something stupid |
| 14:46.37 | troubled | 2.0 is meant to be a milestone. ie: POE! 1.5 is our "half way" version |
| 14:47.03 | troubled | once we get 2.0, we can figure out something better :) |
| 14:47.09 | Breakz | yea but thats sortawhat i meant with the .31 and .32 |
| 14:47.17 | Breakz | that for small changes? /x/ |
| 14:48.20 | troubled | i cant even get tim to use decent commit comments, and you expect him to change the version every release? ;P |
| 14:48.31 | troubled | or every change rather |
| 14:48.42 | Breakz | lol |
| 14:48.47 | troubled | well, hes fine last few commits since i bitched, but still heh |
| 14:49.01 | troubled | just easier this way since I can manage it myself and they dont have to worry |
| 14:49.21 | troubled | dont worry, it'll get worked out eventually |
| 14:50.10 | troubled | besides, probably not a good thing to know exactly what rev someones bot is. im not a big fan of version numbers showing. but if its to hide bugs it doesnt matter since they can just test anyways |
| 14:51.55 | *** join/#infobot infobot_ (n=mohamed@41.235.155.61) |
| 14:52.31 | mohamed_ | troubled: now the svn version :) |
| 14:52.31 | troubled | mohamed_: infobot_ probably isnt the best name for that bot :) |
| 14:52.40 | mohamed_ | ok is defaults |
| 14:52.45 | mohamed_ | i will change it |
| 14:53.05 | troubled | your lucky the bot does kill stolen nicks on sight yet, or you would have just been ghosted heh |
| 14:53.36 | mohamed_ | where i change nickname ? |
| 14:54.04 | troubled | ill give you a hint: you were already in the file once |
| 14:54.37 | troubled | im here to help, not spoon feed and setup your bot for you. please put some effort into the setup. And that goes for everyone |
| 14:55.23 | mohamed_ | thx troubled you already helped me alot |
| 14:55.28 | troubled | nod |
| 16:43.00 | wyre | one of my bots is on a Unreal3.2.7. ircd, i just connected it, ircstats claims aconnected for _only_ 14021d |
| 16:43.14 | wyre | amused |
| 17:14.51 | Breakz | ~x nl jp poep |
| 17:14.57 | Breakz | : |
| 17:14.58 | Breakz | s |
| 18:14.26 | *** part/#infobot mohamed_ (n=mohamed@41.235.155.61) |
| 18:16.14 | troubled | wyre,Breakz: file bug report on sourceforge please. be nice to have bug id's for use in changelogs and commit logs |
| 18:41.34 | *** join/#infobot simonrvn (i=simon@unaffiliated/simonrvn) |
| 18:41.34 | *** mode/#infobot [+v simonrvn] by ChanServ |
| 18:46.28 | wyre | usefull particulars? |
| 19:00.31 | wyre | done. |
| 19:54.33 | wyre | troubled: it appears that chans are stored case sensitivly, where most (all?) ircd treat the chan name case insensitivly |
| 19:54.42 | wyre | bug or feature? |
| 20:04.25 | troubled | wyre: the ircstats bug is because your server has no MOTD |
| 20:04.54 | troubled | thus it never stores the actual connect time and count and throws all the math off |
| 20:05.36 | troubled | probably a feature for the chan case |
| 20:05.57 | troubled | while it should lower case stuff on checks, who knows |
| 20:11.54 | troubled | sub on_endofmotd never fires in IRC/IrcHooks.pl |
| 20:12.28 | troubled | and im pretty sure thats linked to a numeric, so a pita to fudge it |
| 20:14.58 | troubled | numeric 376 RPL_ENDOFMOTD |
| 20:15.22 | troubled | http://www.mirc.co.uk/help/rfc1459.txt , grep for 376 |
| 20:16.17 | troubled | tbh, I think theres about zero change of the guts of the bot being altered enough to work around that. ill see what tim has to say about it though |
| 20:17.02 | troubled | could probably do a check to see if its been called once already to avoid dupe, and then run the check to see before channel joining or something and call it then once, but thats kinda nasty way to handle it |
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| 20:51.11 | *** part/#infobot mohamed_ (n=mohamed@41.235.151.51) |
| 20:52.07 | wyre | re the case chan thing, i join the lc version, and the server has it mixes, et'wala, two chans in the list :blink: |
| 20:53.08 | wyre | and am surprised that a time keeping function depends on an optional function of the ircd |
| 20:58.08 | troubled | sounds like your just looking for bugs now |
| 20:58.42 | wyre | just things i've noticed |
| 20:58.47 | troubled | as for the motd stuff, talk to the guy who programmed it. wasnt my design decision |
| 20:59.46 | troubled | really, that sub should be a must run thing that triggers on MOTD end, but it shouldnt depend on it. ill have to gab with tim and see how he would deal with it, or if at all |
| 21:00.15 | troubled | i agree though, a "message of the day" shouldnt be mandatory, nor should any functionality of the bot depend on it |
| 21:01.27 | troubled | by all means though, submit bug reports on _everything_ you find. we need good bug reports to help us keep track of all this cruft |
| 21:01.34 | wyre | well if it fires on 376, adding same funct on 422 might clear that up |
| 21:02.04 | troubled | well, tbh, we shouldnt even care about 376. no idea why it was done that way to begin with |
| 21:03.06 | troubled | $conns{$mynick}->add_global_handler( 422, \&on_endofwho ); # nomotd. |
| 21:03.07 | wyre | sounds like it used the MOTD to decide when the connection phase was over |
| 21:03.17 | troubled | aparently we already got some code there though |
| 21:03.18 | wyre | need to decide that somehow |
| 21:03.44 | troubled | ya, thats what it likely was for |
| 21:04.05 | wyre | and for finding bugs, i thoguht I put my QA hat away..... |
| 21:04.58 | wyre | i'll put up a case for the chan name thing later |
| 21:05.08 | troubled | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:05.22 | troubled | heh, explains why it doesnt join channels on missing motd as well |
| 21:05.42 | troubled | ah nm, thats just status msg, they commented out the actualy code to joinnetchan |
| 21:06.32 | troubled | theres a few spots where case gets lost when it shouldnt though |
| 21:07.18 | troubled | sometimes the bot says "bob msg'd me..." when the nick is Bob etc. clearly it should lc for cmp's but not store it that way. but its like that in so many places its a nightmare to track down |
| 21:09.12 | wyre | ...reminds me of something i did in the past, when in doubt, lock the case |
| 21:10.32 | troubled | lock the case? you mean ignore the problem? |
| 21:11.07 | wyre | sorry, meaning alwase force the case |
| 21:11.25 | troubled | you mean case sensitivity? |
| 21:11.26 | wyre | on compaires |
| 21:11.30 | troubled | ah |
| 21:11.49 | troubled | personally, case sensitive is a pita when it comes to chanset's and stuff |
| 21:12.08 | wyre | $spell compaires |
| 21:12.11 | troubled | always have to look up the hook spelling in commandstubs.pl just to see wth is going on |
| 21:12.11 | FactBot | possible spellings for compaires: compares |
| 21:13.36 | wyre | feels like i am wandering into 'too much trouble' |
| 21:15.04 | troubled | ive been sayin that for months :) |
| 21:15.31 | troubled | someone suggested numeric 001 instead of 376 though for that sub. might be a better solution |
| 21:16.31 | troubled | http://www.alien.net.au/irc/irc2numerics.html |
| 21:21.05 | wyre | better rfc: http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc2812.html |
| 21:22.07 | troubled | changing 376 to 001 seems to work fine so far |
| 21:22.37 | troubled | i need to look closer at the code though. i would be money that it does stuff that is dependant on the other numerics firing first though |
| 21:23.55 | troubled | feel free to try the patch out and see how it works though if you feel like testing, but i wont commit until i get tim to sign off on it |
| 21:24.44 | troubled | to patch: edit src/IRC/Irc.pl around line 175 and change 376 to "001" (dont forget quotes else octal) |
| 21:25.12 | wyre | 001 in octal.... ;) |
| 21:27.58 | troubled | if you put 001, it chokes and doesnt understand |
| 21:28.16 | troubled | but tests on my net on a non motd server seem fine so far |
| 21:29.57 | troubled | im a little concerned about the bot doing $conn->ison checks though that early in the connection though |
| 21:30.58 | wyre | seems okay in my env |
| 21:34.52 | troubled | yea, but what else broke is the question :) |
| 21:35.37 | troubled | would have to literally print debug info on everything that happens in that sub for accuracy to know for sure |
| 21:36.20 | troubled | if you dont mind leaving it like that for a while though for testing, it would be appreciated |
| 21:37.07 | troubled | when/if it gets patched though, you will probably need to svn revert the file first since ill have to rename the sub as well instead of a lazy numeric change only |
| 21:40.36 | wyre | makes a funny face at ~dict |
| 21:40.56 | troubled | broken? |
| 21:41.24 | wyre | uses dict.org per the source, right? |
| 21:41.34 | wyre | may I spam? |
| 21:41.35 | troubled | think thats what it was |
| 21:41.40 | troubled | sure |
| 21:41.44 | wyre | $dict lart |
| 21:41.46 | FactBot | Dictionary 'lart' (1 of 2): {Luser Attitude Re-adjustment Tool}. |
| 21:41.51 | wyre | $dict 2 lart |
| 21:41.53 | FactBot | [2/2] {Luser Attitude Re-adjustment Tool} |
| 21:41.59 | wyre | $dict lart/jargon |
| 21:42.13 | troubled | ! 3! Reply: len reply > minLBP (450); msgType now private. |
| 21:42.51 | wyre | mine isn't set that low |
| 21:43.18 | wyre | but comma, shouldn't the /jargon def be included in teh first response? |
| 21:43.41 | troubled | no idea, i dont knowdict's fully functionality |
| 21:43.49 | troubled | $+dict lart/jargon |
| 21:44.11 | troubled | well thats fail :) |
| 21:44.23 | wyre | it's actually repeating the foldoc hit |
| 21:44.40 | troubled | nah, i test changed the file to localhost to test |
| 21:44.58 | wyre | yea... http://www.dict.org/bin/Dict?Form=Dict2&Database=*&Query=lart |
| 21:46.01 | wyre | and the next dict call starts at 2? |
| 21:46.12 | troubled | $+dict lart/jargon |
| 21:46.14 | FactBot | Dictionary 'lart' // Luser Attitude Readjustment Tool. 1. n. In the collective mythos of {scary devil monastery}, this is an essential item in the toolkit of every {BOFH}. The LART classic is a 2x4 or other large billet of wood usable as a club, to be applied upside the head of spammers and other people who cause sysadmins more grief than just naturally goes with the job. Perennial debates rage on alt.sysadmin.recovery over what const |
| 21:46.22 | troubled | $status |
| 21:46.22 | FactBot | Since Mon May 19 15:50:39 2008, there have been 16 modifications, 25 questions, 0 dunnos, 0 morons and 33 commands. I have been awake for 3d 5h 55m 43s this session, and currently reference 104 factoids. I'm using about 32828 kB of memory. With 0 active forks. Process time user/system 76.42/9.68 child 0/0 |
| 21:46.29 | troubled | $ircstats |
| 21:46.30 | FactBot | I'm connected to irc.freenode.net:6667 and have been so for 3d 5h 55m 43s |
| 21:46.42 | wyre | +? |
| 21:47.02 | troubled | forces stuff public (for like that 450char limit doesnt force it to pm) |
| 21:47.18 | wyre | once more, may I? |
| 21:47.22 | troubled | sure |
| 21:47.28 | wyre | $dict lart |
| 21:47.30 | FactBot | Dictionary 'lart' (1 of 2): // Luser Attitude Readjustment Tool. 1. n. In the collective mythos of {scary devil monastery}, this is an essential item in the toolkit of every {BOFH}. The LART classic is a 2x4 or other large billet of wood usable as a club, to be applied upside the head of spammers and other people who cause sysadmins more grief than just naturally goes with the job. Perennial debates rage on alt.sysadmin.recovery o |
| 21:47.34 | wyre | $dict time |
| 21:47.36 | FactBot | Dictionary 'time' (1 of 23): 2.-1. Impersonal actions, the pleadings must allege the time; that is, is generally considered immaterial, and any time may be assigned to a should be laid under a videlicit, or the party pleading it will be laid is of the substance of the issue, and must be strictly proved. 3.-2. In real or mixed actions, there is no necessity for alleging any 4.-3. In criminal pleadings, it is requisite, generally, t |
| 21:47.42 | wyre | blinks |
| 21:47.44 | troubled | looks like its cut short |
| 21:47.59 | wyre | so, something changed? |
| 21:48.00 | troubled | ! 3! <FactBot/#infobot> Dictionary 'time' (1 of 23): 2.-1. Impersonal actions, the pleadings must allege the time; that is, is generally considered immaterial, and any time may be assigned to a should be laid under a videlicit, or the party pleading it will be laid is of the substance of the issue, and must be strictly proved. 3.-2. In real or mixed actions, there is no necessity for alleging any 4.-3. In criminal pleadings, it |
| 21:48.08 | troubled | thats what it actually received |
| 21:48.54 | wyre | rewind, back to the lart bit, you changes something? |
| 21:50.42 | troubled | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:50.49 | wyre | getting different answers between my bots now |
| 21:50.56 | troubled | seems that it got hardcoded to 400 char :/ |
| 21:51.02 | wyre | $roulette |
| 21:51.03 | FactBot | wyre: Click |
| 21:51.10 | wyre | $roulette |
| 21:52.03 | troubled | $chanset maxListReplyLength |
| 21:52.03 | FactBot | Showing maxListReplyLength values on all channels... |
| 21:52.04 | FactBot | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:52.05 | FactBot | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:52.06 | FactBot | End of list. |
| 21:52.45 | troubled | $chanset _default maxListReplyLength 450 |
| 21:52.46 | FactBot | Setting maxListReplyLength for _default to '450'; was '400'. |
| 21:52.51 | troubled | $dict lart/jargon |
| 21:53.01 | troubled | $+dict lart/jargon |
| 21:53.03 | FactBot | Dictionary 'lart' // Luser Attitude Readjustment Tool. 1. n. In the collective mythos of {scary devil monastery}, this is an essential item in the toolkit of every {BOFH}. The LART classic is a 2x4 or other large billet of wood usable as a club, to be applied upside the head of spammers and other people who cause sysadmins more grief than just naturally goes with the job. Perennial debates rage on alt.sysadmin.recovery over what const |
| 21:53.10 | troubled | $+dict time |
| 21:53.12 | FactBot | Dictionary 'time' (1 of 23): 2. Time is frequently of the essence of contracts and crimes, and 3. Lapse of time alone is often presumptive evidence of facts which are 4. In the computation of time, it is laid down generally, that where. |
| 21:53.19 | wyre | there is a server max lenght i belive too |
| 21:53.41 | troubled | you mean freenode? |
| 21:53.48 | wyre | in the ircd |
| 21:53.48 | troubled | or for the bot itself |
| 21:54.08 | troubled | yes, its 512 (510 + cr+lf) |
| 21:54.20 | troubled | but theres protocol overhead that you need to subtract that the bot doesnt |
| 21:54.35 | wyre | is still confused by the differing responses |
| 21:54.58 | troubled | yes, very strange. might be roundrobin dns hitting diff servers |
| 21:55.21 | troubled | hmm, or not. could still be internally though |
| 21:55.26 | wyre | and why my response starts at 2 of sometimes |
| 21:55.33 | troubled | ie: they might have out of sync dictionaries internally |
| 21:56.28 | wyre | closest equiv of rehash? |
| 21:56.41 | troubled | reload |
| 21:56.54 | troubled | you dont need to for modules though |
| 21:57.10 | troubled | they are generally run as forkers and load each run |
| 21:58.37 | wyre | so how do i get '2 of x' on a query... |
| 21:58.57 | troubled | youre asking the wrong guy :) |
| 21:59.04 | troubled | use the source luke! ;) |
| 21:59.18 | troubled | $+help dict |
| 21:59.20 | FactBot | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:59.20 | FactBot | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:59.21 | FactBot | Example: dict linux |
| 21:59.21 | FactBot | Example: dict 33 set/wn |
| 21:59.40 | troubled | if that dont do it, no idea then |
| 21:59.46 | troubled | $+dict 2 time |
| 21:59.49 | FactBot | [2/23] \Time\, v. i. 1. To keep or beat time; to proceed or move in time. [1913 Webster] With oar strokes timing to their song. --Whittier. [1913 Webster] 2. To pass time; to delay. [Obs.] [1913 Webster] |
| 22:00.19 | troubled | $+dict 2 time |
| 22:00.21 | FactBot | [2/23] \Time\, v. i. 1. To keep or beat time; to proceed or move in time. [1913 Webster] With oar strokes timing to their song. --Whittier. [1913 Webster] 2. To pass time; to delay. [Obs.] [1913 Webster] |
| 22:00.24 | wyre | i'd like to see a metadict, which shows the hits, [may cook on that - how hard could it be] |
| 22:00.29 | troubled | meh, got same answer there |
| 22:00.53 | troubled | patches welcome :) |
| 22:01.41 | troubled | tbh, without specific numbers, it would be nice if it showed the list available though |
| 22:01.56 | wyre | thats my meaning |
| 22:02.13 | troubled | ya, but then the noobs would complain :p |
| 22:02.43 | wyre | thnking something like ~dict index foo |
| 22:02.54 | wyre | or suh |
| 22:03.05 | wyre | such - so that the defualt is the same |
| 22:03.08 | troubled | then you break "index" word lookup heh |
| 22:03.15 | wyre | index index |
| 22:03.34 | troubled | then you need a 10 page !help to explain that heh |
| 22:03.35 | wyre | or go arcaine ~dict 0 foo |
| 22:05.43 | wyre | would foo/INDEX or such be less noxious |
| 22:13.36 | troubled | anyways, im off to blend-fu for a bit, l8r |
| 22:14.15 | wyre | blend-zen to you too |
| 23:29.27 | wyre | peace -> out |