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15:04.35 | jonpry_ | Cotulla, ping |
15:04.45 | Cotulla | heya |
15:05.06 | jonpry | http://unlimited.io/jewel.htm |
15:05.25 | jonpry | afaict they must have some kind of exploit to get s-off |
15:05.31 | jonpry | is that true? |
15:21.02 | helicopter88 | jonpry, I used unlimited.io for my evo 3d,they have an exploit for that |
15:22.05 | jonpry | evo 4g lte has the same chip as mine |
15:36.28 | detule | same chip? |
15:36.42 | arrrghhh | msm8960 |
15:36.58 | detule | jonpry is not 8960 |
15:37.00 | arrrghhh | I tried kanging crap from jewel early on |
15:37.10 | arrrghhh | Oh, I thought he was. Jewel is msm8960... |
15:37.26 | detule | yeah evo 4g lte is s3's poorer cousin |
15:38.58 | jonpry | well 8064 and 8960 are close enough |
15:40.51 | detule | yeah both start with an 8 |
15:41.02 | jonpry | uh |
15:41.07 | jonpry | the gpu is different |
15:41.18 | jonpry | and mine is missing a modem |
15:41.21 | Cotulla | both have one zero in name |
15:41.23 | Cotulla | :) |
15:41.25 | arrrghhh | lol |
15:41.29 | Cotulla | +500 |
15:41.32 | jonpry | but all other devices are in the same place with the same registers |
15:41.34 | Cotulla | I win |
15:42.18 | jonpry | both also have a 6 |
15:42.30 | detule | why s-off? want qmagdlr? |
15:42.32 | arrrghhh | in the same spot even, bonus |
15:42.55 | Cotulla | detule do u found a way to run Q6 code? |
15:43.04 | jonpry | somehow they compromised the security model |
15:43.06 | Cotulla | oh yea 6 ever on the same position |
15:43.12 | Cotulla | :O |
15:43.17 | Cotulla | hides |
15:43.19 | detule | me? i am like the last person here to find anything |
15:43.22 | jonpry | 8x6x |
15:43.38 | jonpry | (bootloader) Device tampered: false |
15:43.38 | jonpry | (bootloader) Device unlocked: true |
15:43.38 | jonpry | (bootloader) off-mode-charge: true |
15:43.46 | jonpry | wtf does that mean |
15:43.50 | detule | they might just have a leaked s-off hboot |
15:43.50 | jonpry | how do i tamper |
15:43.51 | Cotulla | is touching MSM8960 by spear |
15:44.01 | Cotulla | is touching APQ8064 by spear |
15:44.11 | detule | jonpry, you just fastbootign kernels or flashing them? |
15:44.14 | Cotulla | hides back from stone |
15:44.19 | jonpry | fastboot |
15:44.28 | detule | might check for a signature on /boot |
15:44.28 | Cotulla | eating a fastboot as breakfast |
15:44.31 | jonpry | most of my kernels aren't designed to work |
15:45.02 | Cotulla | pissed a signature in the toilet |
15:45.25 | Cotulla | :D |
15:45.58 | arrrghhh | detule, so I seem to be having RIL issues on CM10 on my moto poo... |
15:46.19 | detule | what rilj are you guys using |
15:46.20 | arrrghhh | android.com.phone crashes on calls in/out, evdo won't connect... |
15:46.49 | arrrghhh | lets see |
15:47.05 | arrrghhh | rild.libpath=/system/lib/libril-qc-qmi-1.so \ |
15:47.07 | arrrghhh | I can't find rilj? |
15:47.26 | Cotulla | hates QMI |
15:48.01 | arrrghhh | Well, this czech guy got cm10 booting on my moto |
15:48.08 | arrrghhh | but he's GSM only, so that's all he cares about obviously... |
15:48.10 | detule | rilj the ril in the java layer.....basically which class in frameworks/base/telephony/services* |
15:48.18 | arrrghhh | detule, how do I tell? |
15:48.29 | jonpry | mmm fastboot oem dload |
15:49.11 | Cotulla | working? |
15:49.14 | arrrghhh | I have no business reading these radio logcats lol |
15:49.46 | detule | h./d2spr/system.prop:ro.telephony.ril_class=SamsungCDMAQualcommRIL |
15:50.06 | arrrghhh | ah yea, I don't think I define the ril_class |
15:50.27 | detule | yeah that's no good |
15:50.33 | detule | what are those other moto folks using |
15:50.34 | arrrghhh | why the hell does gsm work |
15:50.48 | arrrghhh | detule, I looked at Razr M, I didn't see it there either... |
15:52.02 | arrrghhh | https://github.com/razrqcom-dev-team/android_device_motorola_xt907/blob/cm-10.1/device_xt907.mk |
15:52.11 | arrrghhh | that file has the propery overrides |
15:53.03 | detule | hm |
15:53.27 | arrrghhh | basically the same device, I'm using their kernel and common essentially |
15:53.56 | jonpry | did you talk to hashcode about this? |
15:53.56 | detule | the ril blob though is from your stock rom right |
15:54.03 | detule | yeah you want hashcode |
15:54.04 | arrrghhh | jonpry, yea I did |
15:54.13 | arrrghhh | he told me to hax build.prop. which I have been... to no avail. |
15:54.18 | arrrghhh | I'll bug him again |
15:54.30 | arrrghhh | not sure what you mean by ril blob... |
15:54.36 | detule | the qmi |
15:54.44 | detule | *qmi*.so |
15:54.54 | arrrghhh | hm |
15:54.57 | arrrghhh | I honestly do not know. |
15:55.10 | arrrghhh | lets see if that's in proprietary |
15:55.48 | arrrghhh | detule, yea, there's a bunch of *qmi*.so crap in proprietary |
15:55.58 | arrrghhh | libril-qc-qmi-1.so etc |
16:02.43 | detule | don't know....but there's two parts to the ril...the binary (which is what hyc re-wrote for us) and the java ril |
16:02.54 | detule | CM folks don't bother with re-writing the binary |
16:03.03 | detule | all patching goes to patching the java ril |
16:03.22 | detule | that's why if you look in frameworks/base/telephony* they have all these separated ril classes |
16:04.30 | arrrghhh | hmmmm |
16:16.09 | arrrghhh | I guess I'll bug hashcode when I see him again... |
16:16.18 | arrrghhh | stupid cdma |
16:26.50 | jonpry | i'm just giving up and doing this on the touchpad |
16:27.05 | jonpry | later on somebody can hack this trust crap |
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16:28.56 | jonpry | seems qcom has defeated even Cotulla |
16:30.06 | detule | did you get it to execute on the touchpad? |
16:32.47 | jonpry | sort of |
16:32.59 | jonpry | i can do it but i need to compile a custom kernel |
16:38.28 | jonpry | they hacked the pil to work only one time |
16:38.41 | jonpry | but i have reset the thing and overwrote it's memory with devmem |
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17:35.19 | jonpry | ah jeez |
17:35.33 | jonpry | i tried to ask those unlimited.io people for some info |
17:35.42 | jonpry | and that blew up |
17:38.15 | jonpry | don't ever do that |
17:38.23 | jonpry | http://pastebin.com/AcSNX5NA |
17:45.43 | Cotulla | hm u sure it's good to post ?maybe it was private without logs. . . |
17:46.36 | Cotulla | lol |
17:46.38 | jonpry | not completely |
17:47.08 | Cotulla | but they sell it? |
17:47.24 | jonpry | it's free i think |
17:48.28 | Cotulla | LOL |
17:48.30 | Cotulla | still reading |
17:48.31 | jonpry | apparently she is going to post it on facebook |
17:48.37 | jonpry | so i think i'm entitled |
17:48.41 | Cotulla | she? |
17:49.06 | jonpry | T 1361033778 <jonpry> dude |
17:49.06 | jonpry | T 1361033783 <ladyx> <-- not a dude. |
17:52.07 | Cotulla | well |
17:52.12 | Cotulla | funny dialog |
17:52.35 | Cotulla | but |
17:52.36 | jonpry | yeah that was good use of an hour |
17:53.12 | Cotulla | a bit rude however |
17:53.32 | Cotulla | but I understand their point of view actually |
17:53.48 | jonpry | yeah |
17:53.56 | Cotulla | our team doing same . . . but ofcourse not so rude. but maybe they really tired from questions. |
17:54.02 | detule | *getting popcorn |
17:54.03 | Cotulla | look at XDA |
17:54.13 | jonpry | XDA is the root of all evil |
17:54.13 | Cotulla | what happen there nowdays actually |
17:54.21 | detule | haven't read it all but i'm telling you i think they just have some leaked s-off bootloader |
17:54.33 | Cotulla | detule, it's still big thing |
17:54.55 | jonpry | they changed strings in it somehow |
17:55.23 | jonpry | maybe unlocked SBL |
17:55.36 | Cotulla | our world is not perfect anyway |
17:55.43 | Cotulla | sadly |
17:57.50 | detule | oh man |
18:02.27 | Cotulla | people are people anyway |
18:05.08 | detule | if they're not selling it i don't get the hoopla about keeping their exploit private |
18:05.22 | detule | i guess, they must be making some mean cash on donations |
18:05.26 | Cotulla | maybe |
18:05.30 | Cotulla | but actually |
18:05.33 | jonpry | ads to |
18:05.35 | Cotulla | it's also understable |
18:05.50 | detule | Cotulla, you would say it's understandable :[ |
18:05.53 | detule | :p |
18:05.54 | Cotulla | no |
18:05.58 | Cotulla | our team also never opens how our things are working |
18:06.00 | Cotulla | :P |
18:06.04 | Cotulla | it's clear why |
18:06.14 | Cotulla | cuz it's not "one day game" |
18:06.20 | Cotulla | we also want to do it in the future |
18:06.24 | Cotulla | with new devices and etc |
18:06.25 | ali1234 | i love how they talk about "respect for hard work" after they built cracking tools. douchebags. |
18:06.35 | Cotulla | keeping exploits private |
18:06.41 | jonpry | don't want qcom to fix it? |
18:06.43 | Cotulla | allows to use them in future often |
18:06.44 | Cotulla | yes |
18:06.56 | Cotulla | as well some of them can be used for bad purposes |
18:07.07 | Cotulla | and at the end eveyone lost everything |
18:07.12 | jonpry | like running Q6 codes |
18:07.20 | jonpry | how diabolical |
18:07.28 | Cotulla | I have no idea how to do that on MSM8960 seriously |
18:07.38 | jonpry | yeah |
18:07.47 | Cotulla | if u remember |
18:07.51 | Cotulla | DHD and Vision |
18:08.04 | Cotulla | someone hacked eMMC protection and posted everything on wiki |
18:08.09 | Cotulla | and it was fixed in the next rom |
18:08.10 | Cotulla | :D |
18:08.36 | Cotulla | most people (on XDA, anywhere) don't care about details actually. |
18:09.13 | Cotulla | ofcourse it can be great to have a big collaboration of developers |
18:09.18 | Cotulla | but in real life it sucks |
18:09.21 | ali1234 | at this point i have to wonder why people keep buying protected shit |
18:09.25 | Cotulla | always some bitchy persons appear |
18:09.35 | Cotulla | who has another goals or simple just don't understand |
18:09.38 | Cotulla | ideas |
18:09.42 | ali1234 | it's not like there aren't other choices |
18:09.51 | Cotulla | hey |
18:09.56 | Cotulla | people don't care |
18:10.01 | Cotulla | they bought and using phone |
18:10.12 | Cotulla | it's only we, geeks, care about that |
18:10.19 | Cotulla | but it's around 1% I think |
18:10.24 | Cotulla | so it doesn't matter |
18:10.33 | Cotulla | for company |
18:11.05 | Cotulla | as well selling phones to geeks is dangerous |
18:11.08 | Cotulla | they can tell that it sucks |
18:11.13 | Cotulla | it doesn't support lalala |
18:11.19 | Cotulla | it doesn't have video and audio in sync |
18:11.22 | Cotulla | during playback |
18:11.36 | Cotulla | regular users don't care about that seems |
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18:13.34 | jonpry | i'm not really sure why disassembling their crud is any different than them disassembling the HTC stuff |
18:13.44 | jonpry | maybe we are all kangers :p |
18:14.15 | Cotulla | what kangers means? |
18:14.23 | jonpry | you don't know? |
18:14.25 | Cotulla | no |
18:14.28 | jonpry | lol |
18:14.37 | jonpry | kanger is like Chad Goodman |
18:14.49 | jonpry | apt what is kanger |
18:14.49 | apt | jonpry: I think you lost me on that one |
18:14.56 | jonpry | thieves |
18:14.56 | Cotulla | http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=kangers ? |
18:15.47 | jonpry | it's like AOKP |
18:15.59 | Cotulla | oh |
18:16.00 | Cotulla | well |
18:16.14 | Cotulla | I am very clear understand that everything what I am doing is completely illegal |
18:16.16 | Cotulla | MAGLDR and etc |
18:16.25 | jonpry | :p |
18:16.32 | Cotulla | ofcourse we can consider relationships of developers inside community |
18:16.33 | detule | it's not about legality, more like shamelessly taking other people's work either without giving credit or just flat out claiming as your own |
18:16.46 | Cotulla | but community is rather rotten |
18:16.54 | jonpry | community never credits HTC |
18:16.59 | Cotulla | öóää |
18:17.00 | Cotulla | well |
18:17.15 | Cotulla | everynoob wanted to see HTC on phone instead of MAGLDR boot screen :\ |
18:17.22 | Cotulla | :D |
18:19.55 | Cotulla | well, I understand them fully, except too rude talk |
18:20.00 | Cotulla | but maybe they are tired |
18:20.02 | Cotulla | cuz everyday |
18:20.07 | Cotulla | someone fuck their brain |
18:20.13 | Cotulla | and it's hard to detect who is who |
18:20.21 | Cotulla | :( |
18:20.50 | detule | we'd all be screwed if linux development wasn't built on the concept of giving back to the community |
18:21.03 | jonpry | i really like it when kangers try to actively discredit the true authors |
18:21.13 | Cotulla | detule, u sure it is? |
18:21.21 | Cotulla | look at that fake hexagon code for example |
18:21.27 | Cotulla | where is "back to community"? |
18:21.39 | jonpry | qcom sucks the community out |
18:21.52 | Cotulla | well, they just doing their work |
18:21.59 | jonpry | replaces with one way pipe |
18:22.01 | Cotulla | samsung I heard is much worse |
18:22.04 | Cotulla | isn't it |
18:22.06 | Cotulla | ? |
18:22.17 | jonpry | no modem |
18:22.23 | jonpry | so it's hard to compare |
18:22.33 | jonpry | since the evil doing is so centered around that thing |
18:22.43 | Cotulla | why |
18:22.56 | jonpry | encrypted signed everything |
18:22.59 | Cotulla | :D |
18:23.02 | jonpry | no access to interrupt controllers |
18:23.06 | jonpry | or io ports |
18:23.15 | Cotulla | it's common nowdays |
18:23.22 | jonpry | gotta ask modem to touch anything via undocumented software commands |
18:23.36 | Cotulla | well it's same if u have undocumented hardware |
18:23.39 | detule | Cotulla, what's the alternative, fix something and hold onto the patch? |
18:23.44 | Cotulla | u can thread modem as hardware |
18:23.46 | detule | for what donations and glory? |
18:24.13 | Cotulla | some persons do that |
18:24.17 | Cotulla | long time |
18:24.25 | detule | those persons would be screwed if everyone else did that |
18:24.43 | Cotulla | yes |
18:24.49 | Cotulla | but I don't have answers |
18:24.50 | detule | it's like if there were no custom roms for the evo lte, no open source development, there would be no need for their stupid unlocker |
18:25.17 | Cotulla | I am not sure how is it working |
18:25.19 | Cotulla | and how it's done |
18:25.27 | detule | so with one hand they are benefiting from open source development and taking from the developer community and with the other refusing to give back |
18:25.50 | Cotulla | well why they must? |
18:25.54 | Cotulla | they just did something |
18:26.12 | Cotulla | people can unlock phones by HTC official program |
18:26.14 | Cotulla | however |
18:26.19 | Cotulla | but they will lost varanty |
18:26.20 | detule | nobody is saying they must or forcing their hands....all I am saying is that at best it robs them from their moral highground, at worst it makes them douchebags |
18:26.30 | helicopter88 | Cotulla, unlocking with HTCdev is a pita |
18:26.44 | Cotulla | dunno |
18:26.57 | helicopter88 | I have been unlocked with htcdev for some months |
18:26.58 | helicopter88 | pain |
18:26.59 | Cotulla | our team never released any internal things and I am still feel myself moral good :D |
18:27.11 | Cotulla | u should not look to that like "they must" |
18:27.18 | Cotulla | look to that like "they do" |
18:27.45 | Cotulla | if they are doing it from zero (unlocks) |
18:27.47 | Cotulla | it's big work |
18:27.49 | Cotulla | I know that |
18:28.24 | Cotulla | ofcourse in ideal word |
18:28.30 | detule | you'd be at home with Apple :[ |
18:28.30 | Cotulla | they share their exploits |
18:28.32 | detule | :p |
18:28.36 | detule | stupid brace |
18:28.44 | Cotulla | and other developers port them to another devices |
18:28.50 | Cotulla | but in real world: |
18:28.56 | Cotulla | 1)they share their exploits |
18:29.01 | Cotulla | 2)exploits are fixed fast |
18:29.14 | Cotulla | 3)someone took them and made alternative installer with pink color and ponies |
18:29.34 | Cotulla | 4)someone just start to do illegal actions - change IMEI |
18:29.43 | Cotulla | and etc |
18:30.49 | Cotulla | and maybe |
18:30.54 | Cotulla | 5)some people will got a problems |
18:31.26 | detule | it's slippery slope once you start justifying witholding code for this and that, you can't draw boundaries.... |
18:31.50 | Cotulla | yes, we can't draw boundaries |
18:32.31 | Cotulla | I am few years in that community and all that clear for me |
18:32.36 | Cotulla | before I was also kinda |
18:32.51 | Cotulla | "heeey why that *itch didn't share things?!?" |
18:32.54 | Cotulla | :D |
18:42.35 | Cotulla | this guy reply |
18:48.39 | ali1234 | i had to use illegal IMEI fix :/ |
18:48.51 | ali1234 | cos i accidentally wiped nvram |
18:48.55 | ali1234 | that sucked |
18:49.23 | Cotulla | :( |
18:49.39 | Cotulla | accidentally == by reading SMS? |
18:49.40 | Cotulla | :D |
18:49.44 | Cotulla | or playing angry birds |
18:49.45 | Cotulla | :D |
18:49.53 | ali1234 | something like that yes :) |
18:49.56 | Cotulla | :D |
18:49.58 | Cotulla | hah |
18:54.46 | ali1234 | funny thing was the phone worked for months with no IMEI |
18:54.55 | ali1234 | i didn't even realise for ages |
18:55.14 | Cotulla | I heard china phones has same IMEI |
18:55.17 | ali1234 | i even rang up operator help line to ask why my phone didn't work and the person looked up the details and was like "WTF!?!?!?!?" |
18:55.18 | Cotulla | *have |
18:55.43 | Cotulla | which phone? |
18:55.51 | ali1234 | SGS |
18:57.29 | ali1234 | if the IMEI is so big an important and illegal to change they should burn it in a god damn PROM |
18:58.24 | ali1234 | but no. "we are too cheap to put in a 10p component to make it impossible to change or break, so we spend billions lobbying for dumb laws instead" |
19:02.53 | Cotulla | it's like MAC address |
19:02.57 | Cotulla | :D |
19:04.56 | ali1234 | it's just annoying that it's illegal for me to repair something i own |
19:05.26 | ali1234 | when they easily could have made it impossible to break in the first place |
19:05.37 | Cotulla | well it is |
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19:13.54 | jonpry | so where exactly are these no boundries being drawn |
19:14.31 | Cotulla | yes, everyone need decide for himself |
19:14.42 | Cotulla | and maybe correct his decision with time |
19:14.48 | Cotulla | hm |
19:14.51 | Cotulla | or for herself :D |
19:14.59 | Cotulla | dunno if english has that word however |
19:15.03 | Cotulla | maybe it is not |
19:15.17 | Cotulla | is it? |
19:17.01 | jonpry | it does |
19:17.50 | fakker | punches Cotulla in the kisser |
19:21.52 | Cotulla | hehe |
19:21.53 | Cotulla | I win |
19:22.03 | Cotulla | lol |
19:22.08 | Cotulla | fakker new word |
19:22.09 | Cotulla | pfff |
19:22.17 | Cotulla | funny one |
19:22.18 | Cotulla | lol |
19:22.48 | fakker | pfff is the word? |
19:22.56 | Cotulla | no |
19:23.07 | fakker | what is the new word |
19:23.17 | Cotulla | kisser |
19:23.19 | Cotulla | :D |
19:23.20 | fakker | :) |
19:23.25 | fakker | now say, pow right in the kisser |
19:23.33 | Cotulla | wtf |
19:23.35 | fakker | :D |
19:23.50 | Cotulla | I don't get u dude at all |
19:24.01 | jonpry | is that like a pie hole? |
19:24.07 | fakker | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2me8x7PLd1k |
19:24.08 | Cotulla | u talk like dudetta actually |
19:24.22 | Cotulla | f him |
19:25.13 | fakker | on this wonderful note, i must climb a mountain |
19:25.29 | fakker | brb, smoke me a kipper - i'll be back for breakfast |
19:26.02 | Cotulla | ok |
19:26.08 | Cotulla | climb it until it still hot |
20:00.05 | jonpry | i got the touchpad kernel modified |
20:01.04 | Cotulla | nie |
20:01.05 | Cotulla | nice |
20:01.16 | Cotulla | so u in hexy party soon? |
20:01.36 | jonpry | i think so |
20:04.45 | jonpry | damn hexy linux |
20:05.39 | Cotulla | :D |
20:28.04 | jonpry | got code running |
20:31.50 | jonpry | Cotulla ^^ |
20:33.16 | Cotulla | :D |
20:33.19 | Cotulla | good |
20:33.26 | jonpry | yeah |
20:33.52 | jonpry | so i think first code needs to setup identity map tables |
20:33.56 | jonpry | and then mmu on |
20:34.08 | Cotulla | yea I am working under it |
20:34.55 | jonpry | i might need some code |
20:35.14 | Cotulla | when I finish |
20:35.18 | Cotulla | I will push it |
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