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| 13:00.42 | Guest4308 | wyrm |
| 13:00.51 | Guest4308 | I found something potentially strange |
| 13:01.27 | Guest4308 | my 4329 actually doesn't freeze when reading from higher than 0x40000 |
| 13:01.40 | Guest4308 | ...it freezes at 0x48000 |
| 13:02.49 | Guest4308 | wait... do you have a 4325? |
| 13:02.59 | WyrM | hi. |
| 13:03.03 | Guest4308 | hi :) |
| 13:03.16 | WyrM | 4329 from a broadcom OEM. |
| 13:03.23 | WyrM | azure wave |
| 13:03.24 | Guest4308 | crazy |
| 13:04.01 | WyrM | so, your firmware is bigger than 256KB? |
| 13:04.09 | Guest4308 | well my 4329 is actually bigger |
| 13:04.33 | WyrM | what do you have after 0x40000? firmware code? |
| 13:04.41 | Guest4308 | by about 32 kb |
| 13:04.42 | Guest4308 | well |
| 13:04.59 | Guest4308 | judging by the fact that it is directly 'after' 0x40000 |
| 13:05.35 | Guest4308 | and by the fact that strings produces |
| 13:05.36 | Guest4308 | .sbss |
| 13:05.36 | Guest4308 | .sdata |
| 13:05.36 | Guest4308 | .data |
| 13:05.37 | Guest4308 | .nonfc_text |
| 13:05.37 | Guest4308 | .boot_data |
| 13:05.37 | Guest4308 | and |
| 13:05.47 | Guest4308 | Copyrigh |
| 13:05.47 | Guest4308 | t (c) 19 |
| 13:05.47 | Guest4308 | 96-2003 |
| 13:05.47 | Guest4308 | Express |
| 13:05.48 | Guest4308 | Logic In |
| 13:05.48 | Guest4308 | c. * Thr |
| 13:05.48 | Guest4308 | eadX ATM |
| 13:05.49 | Guest4308 | EL/Green |
| 13:05.49 | Guest4308 | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:06.29 | Guest4308 | I'm going to say that it is |
| 13:07.02 | WyrM | yeah, looks like it is. |
| 13:07.15 | Guest4308 | wait, is .data |
| 13:07.29 | Guest4308 | a reference to, say, the start of the data segment |
| 13:07.30 | WyrM | which device are you working with? iphone 4? |
| 13:07.31 | Guest4308 | ? |
| 13:07.34 | Guest4308 | ipad2 |
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| 13:07.48 | Guest4308 | but I'm led to believe that it is the same shit |
| 13:08.29 | Guest4308 | okayyyyyy this is good -- now IDA will have the whole thing! |
| 13:08.47 | Guest4308 | (before I was getting a very patchy disassembly) |
| 13:10.19 | Guest4308 | oh - and I got 3000000 baud |
| 13:10.20 | Guest4308 | :) |
| 13:10.33 | WyrM | Nice. :) |
| 13:12.18 | WyrM | look for 0x0e0e00 and 0x0e0e2c peripherals |
| 13:14.17 | Guest4308 | which peripherals are they? |
| 13:15.29 | WyrM | if its the same in your chip, they are the controls for the pcm port. |
| 13:17.27 | WyrM | try: 0x0e0e00 = "\x01\x89\x00\x10", 0x0e0e2c = "\x00\x00\x00\x00" |
| 13:18.17 | WyrM | and do whatever you have to do on the processor side to route the pcm port output to your speaker. |
| 13:18.59 | Guest4308 | the thing is -- I don't have access to pcm on processor side... |
| 13:19.02 | Guest4308 | yet |
| 13:19.24 | WyrM | with this config it will output 8khz 16bit mono, i need help to make it output better audio. |
| 13:19.31 | WyrM | hum... |
| 13:19.41 | Guest4308 | i want to help you |
| 13:19.50 | WyrM | can you make a bluetooth sco connection? |
| 13:19.58 | Guest4308 | yes that's what I'm trying to do |
| 13:20.00 | WyrM | headset or handsfree profile? |
| 13:20.13 | Guest4308 | yes |
| 13:20.22 | Guest4308 | the reason I wanted the rom |
| 13:20.26 | Guest4308 | was to route audio over hci |
| 13:20.29 | T-Junk | can i ask an off-topic geographical question? :) |
| 13:20.35 | Guest4308 | or sco |
| 13:20.38 | Guest4308 | yep go ahead |
| 13:20.39 | Guest4308 | :) |
| 13:21.03 | T-Junk | how to call Arabia as a part of the world? middle-east sounds so typical.. imo |
| 13:21.04 | Guest4308 | (and then I'll ask an age-related question) |
| 13:21.12 | T-Junk | and Persia is from 1500 years back in time |
| 13:21.30 | Guest4308 | I would say middle-east...? |
| 13:21.33 | Guest4308 | is that incorrect? |
| 13:21.45 | T-Junk | hmmkay that will not be taken as offensive? |
| 13:21.56 | T-Junk | i dont know :) |
| 13:22.02 | Guest4308 | I wouldn't think so |
| 13:22.16 | T-Junk | try to found out how much neutral i can describe that part of the world |
| 13:22.26 | T-Junk | mmkay :) |
| 13:22.48 | Guest4308 | -- do you mean like it's too broad and paints it with the same brush as the rest of the middle-east? |
| 13:22.55 | T-Junk | yeah you also China is within Asia not within China |
| 13:22.59 | T-Junk | even it's so big |
| 13:23.19 | T-Junk | yes like |
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| 13:23.33 | Guest4308 | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:23.38 | Guest4308 | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saudi_Arabia |
| 13:23.40 | T-Junk | i have a stock ruu here that is arabic persian languages only |
| 13:23.48 | Guest4308 | wikipedia is the king of neutrality |
| 13:23.59 | T-Junk | okay :) |
| 13:24.09 | T-Junk | so i will go with Middle East then :) |
| 13:24.16 | T-Junk | thanks :) |
| 13:25.22 | Guest4308 | that's okay :) |
| 13:25.40 | Guest4308 | wyrm: I was just trying to route audio over sco/hci |
| 13:25.56 | Guest4308 | because I only currently have access to the uart |
| 13:27.04 | Guest4308 | the entry point is most definitely 0x00000000 right? |
| 13:27.10 | WyrM | i know how to get packets that look like audio on the hci. |
| 13:27.33 | Guest4308 | yeah, I was writing 0x00 to the fm register 0x4d |
| 13:28.11 | Guest4308 | and I was getting a constant stream of 0x04 0xff 0x01 0x08 back |
| 13:28.22 | Guest4308 | and I basically wanted to reverse the 0x08 |
| 13:29.20 | WyrM | yeah, i got the same stream. |
| 13:29.28 | Guest4308 | jsut then? |
| 13:29.29 | Guest4308 | haha |
| 13:29.35 | WyrM | have you tried to decode it as sco audio? |
| 13:29.46 | WyrM | 8khz 13bit mono. |
| 13:29.54 | Guest4308 | i think they are hci packets |
| 13:30.00 | Guest4308 | 0x04 - hci event |
| 13:30.06 | Guest4308 | 0xff - vendor specific |
| 13:30.12 | Guest4308 | 0x01 - payload length |
| 13:30.17 | Guest4308 | 0x08 - fucked if I know |
| 13:30.25 | Guest4308 | perhaps some error message? |
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| 13:30.40 | WyrM | i have no idea. :) |
| 13:30.44 | Guest4308 | sco packets start with 0x03 then a connection handle |
| 13:30.54 | Guest4308 | then a length byte or something |
| 13:30.56 | Guest4308 | then data |
| 13:31.02 | WyrM | Anyway, i never saw an implementation for these BT BCM chips using audio through HCI. |
| 13:31.22 | Guest4308 | sco runs over hci though |
| 13:31.42 | WyrM | since bcm2035 all i saw was audio through pcm port. |
| 13:32.47 | WyrM | are you sure the pcm port isnt connected to your applications processor? |
| 13:32.52 | Guest4308 | no |
| 13:33.32 | Guest4308 | I'm not sure about anything to do with pcm |
| 13:33.48 | Guest4308 | and I'm this close to cracking it open and soldering a speaker on myself |
| 13:34.14 | WyrM | lol, doesnt it have a speaker already? |
| 13:35.43 | WyrM | a quick google search says that ipad does support sco audio. |
| 13:35.48 | WyrM | for bt headset. |
| 13:38.20 | Guest4308 | yeah it has a speaker but I can't get pcm data off a specific pcm port |
| 13:38.41 | Guest4308 | like I am never allowed to see the pcm port I can only 'select microphone' |
| 13:38.46 | Guest4308 | then 'get data' |
| 13:38.49 | WyrM | err, sorry: "Ok. I have been to the Apple store twice in the past two days. Here is what I have discovered. No support for BT mono headsets used for cell phones and such." |
| 13:39.10 | Guest4308 | nah they're insane |
| 13:39.14 | Guest4308 | it does support sco audio |
| 13:39.37 | WyrM | does? |
| 13:39.40 | Guest4308 | yes |
| 13:39.50 | WyrM | then check whatever code does it. |
| 13:40.15 | WyrM | it should contain the answer you are looking for. |
| 13:40.32 | Guest4308 | I know what the code does |
| 13:40.38 | Guest4308 | it looks for bt devices |
| 13:40.45 | Guest4308 | creates an acl connection to them |
| 13:40.56 | Guest4308 | (if they are a bt headset) |
| 13:41.03 | Guest4308 | then creates an sco connection |
| 13:41.07 | Guest4308 | and then streams data |
| 13:41.18 | WyrM | streams data over what connection? |
| 13:41.22 | Guest4308 | hci |
| 13:41.36 | Guest4308 | oh no, the control is over hci |
| 13:41.45 | WyrM | omg, then it is the only bcm powered device that does it. |
| 13:41.47 | Guest4308 | then the data, I'm pretty sure is moved onto pcm |
| 13:41.58 | Guest4308 | but this is what I don't know |
| 13:42.27 | Guest4308 | I'm pretty sure the sco data is routed over pcm |
| 13:42.37 | Guest4308 | that's what the code is telling me |
| 13:42.40 | WyrM | yes, i think it is. |
| 13:42.53 | WyrM | all bcm designs i've seen use pcm, not hci. |
| 13:42.54 | Guest4308 | but I just want the route the sco over hci |
| 13:43.02 | WyrM | since palm zire 72 :) |
| 13:43.27 | Guest4308 | lol |
| 13:43.31 | Guest4308 | http://www.google.com/search?client=safari&rls=en&q=palm+zire+72&oe=UTF-8&um=1&ie=UTF-8&tbm=isch&source=og&sa=N&hl=en&tab=wi&biw=1279&bih=633 |
| 13:43.47 | WyrM | yep, bcm2035. |
| 13:44.01 | Guest4308 | 'with integrated digital camera' |
| 13:44.12 | WyrM | all OpenEZX phones uses bcm2035 or bcm2045 too :) |
| 13:46.29 | Guest4308 | hmm |
| 13:46.42 | WyrM | http://wiki.openezx.org/Project_devices |
| 13:46.53 | Guest4308 | if you look at the sco packet format |
| 13:46.59 | Guest4308 | it says it runs over hci...? |
| 13:47.17 | WyrM | never saw this with bcm bt chips. |
| 13:47.21 | WyrM | all use pcm. |
| 13:47.40 | Guest4308 | so are you saying the bt core recieves the sco packet |
| 13:47.46 | Guest4308 | gets the data out |
| 13:47.54 | Guest4308 | and discards the header |
| 13:48.02 | Guest4308 | and then puts the data onto the pcm port? |
| 13:48.11 | WyrM | yes. |
| 13:48.22 | Guest4308 | so we can never see the sco header |
| 13:48.32 | Guest4308 | we will never get 0x03 over the uart |
| 13:50.08 | WyrM | i think not. at least thats not how it works with the devices i worked with. |
| 13:50.15 | Guest4308 | well fuck that. I'm going to patch ram |
| 13:50.19 | WyrM | all use pcm. |
| 13:50.23 | Guest4308 | what did you need to do again? |
| 13:50.42 | WyrM | to enable pcm for fmradio? |
| 13:50.58 | WyrM | for bt headset you dont need to access the audio peripheral directly. |
| 13:51.05 | WyrM | the firmware does it automatically. |
| 13:51.34 | WyrM | for fmradio it was the only way i was able to get audio data through the pcm port. |
| 13:52.16 | Guest4308 | where was the data coming out before? |
| 13:52.16 | WyrM | 0x0e0e00 = "\x01\x89\x00\x10", 0x0e0e2c = "\x00\x00\x00\x00" |
| 13:52.43 | Guest4308 | have you tried a brute force 'attack' on the peripheral |
| 13:53.00 | Guest4308 | just every combination? |
| 13:53.11 | WyrM | not every. |
| 13:53.34 | WyrM | but i know bits to select the timeslot, and padding bits |
| 13:53.38 | Guest4308 | reverse the code |
| 13:53.40 | Guest4308 | etc |
| 13:53.41 | Guest4308 | yeah |
| 13:53.44 | Guest4308 | and play on that |
| 13:54.15 | Guest4308 | okay so we've established that there are two pcm ports |
| 13:54.23 | Guest4308 | bluetooth audio pcm port |
| 13:54.27 | Guest4308 | and fm radio pcm port? |
| 13:54.36 | WyrM | its the same port. |
| 13:54.48 | Guest4308 | I thought you said before that there were two ports |
| 13:54.53 | WyrM | you can switch the data stream by writing to a fm register. |
| 13:55.19 | WyrM | yes, I2S port that seems to be connected directly to the fm core, and is NC on my HW. |
| 13:55.35 | Guest4308 | so if you have a bt headset you can switch between that audio and fm? |
| 13:55.46 | WyrM | and PCM port, connected to the bluetooth core, that can also output fm audio. |
| 13:55.52 | Guest4308 | nc=not connected? |
| 13:55.59 | WyrM | this one is connected on most hardeware. |
| 13:56.02 | WyrM | yes. |
| 13:56.05 | Guest4308 | yes |
| 13:56.13 | Guest4308 | well then we're sweet |
| 13:56.20 | WyrM | yes, i can switch. and yes, nc=not connected. |
| 13:56.38 | Guest4308 | well then we're theoretically sweet |
| 13:56.44 | Guest4308 | if there are exactly two ports |
| 13:57.02 | Guest4308 | and we can get audio out of at least one |
| 13:57.22 | Guest4308 | then we can theoretically get fm out of it? |
| 13:57.23 | WyrM | Do you have a bluetooth headset? |
| 13:57.37 | Guest4308 | nope haha |
| 13:57.46 | Guest4308 | at the same quality of the bt audio |
| 13:57.51 | WyrM | for a bluetooth headset you dont need any port to be connected to your AP at all. |
| 14:00.17 | Guest4308 | ahh yes |
| 14:00.25 | Guest4308 | but I think I meant a2dp |
| 14:00.29 | Guest4308 | or whatever it is |
| 14:00.51 | Guest4308 | that lets you stream audio over bluetooth where our host controller is outputting audio to the speaker |
| 14:00.51 | Guest4308 | haha |
| 14:01.01 | WyrM | a2dp isnt sco audio. |
| 14:01.03 | Guest4308 | no wait, not even, |
| 14:01.06 | Guest4308 | if I have sco |
| 14:01.09 | Guest4308 | right |
| 14:01.24 | Guest4308 | it needs input from the cell tower chip |
| 14:01.28 | Guest4308 | to then put that over bt |
| 14:02.03 | Guest4308 | so the data comes over the air from the tower, through the baseband chip then into the bt chip (over pcm or an audio port) then over the air to the remote bt device |
| 14:02.04 | Guest4308 | right? |
| 14:02.11 | Guest4308 | so pcm must be connected?? |
| 14:02.23 | Guest4308 | or at least one audio line must be connected |
| 14:02.41 | WyrM | you can route sco to a baseband processor too. |
| 14:02.47 | WyrM | this is the most common use case. |
| 14:03.03 | Guest4308 | yes, but over what? |
| 14:03.04 | WyrM | but it also works with the application processor, for regular audio. |
| 14:03.11 | Guest4308 | yeah, but which port |
| 14:03.33 | WyrM | sco audio as far as i know, only works through the pcm port on these chips. |
| 14:03.37 | Guest4308 | whether it connects to the apps proc or the baseband proc -- it has to connect over pcm |
| 14:03.44 | WyrM | yes. |
| 14:03.59 | Guest4308 | yeah, so we are connected and have proof of high quality audio? |
| 14:06.05 | WyrM | high quality sco? |
| 14:06.08 | WyrM | lol. |
| 14:06.18 | Guest4308 | no high quality audio |
| 14:06.21 | WyrM | 8khz 13bit mono is far from high quality. |
| 14:06.30 | WyrM | but it does work. :) |
| 14:07.02 | Guest4308 | I guess what i'm trying to say is -- can fm go over anything that isn't sco? |
| 14:07.43 | WyrM | yes, if you have the i2s port connected, most people don't have. |
| 14:07.54 | WyrM | otherwise, it goes through pcm port. |
| 14:08.14 | Guest4308 | no i meant encoding |
| 14:08.20 | WyrM | and with the pcm port i was only able to get sco grade quality audio. |
| 14:08.22 | Guest4308 | is there any other encoding apart from sco? |
| 14:08.42 | WyrM | sco is raw audio AFAIK. |
| 14:08.58 | WyrM | raw PCM. |
| 14:09.09 | Guest4308 | so the data section of an sco packet is pcm? |
| 14:09.15 | Guest4308 | ahh |
| 14:09.16 | WyrM | yes. |
| 14:09.20 | Guest4308 | hmm |
| 14:13.16 | Guest4308 | is it possible that there are audio quality limits |
| 14:13.21 | Guest4308 | on the fm core |
| 14:13.55 | WyrM | according to the product brief, its 48khz 16bit stereo. |
| 14:14.16 | WyrM | but all i could get though the pcm port was 8khz 16bit mono. |
| 14:16.35 | Guest4308 | hmm |
| 14:19.02 | Guest4308 | is the uart a good enough transport to have higher quality audio |
| 14:19.03 | Guest4308 | ? |
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| 14:20.57 | WyrM | 48khz * 16 bit * 2(stereo) = 1.536 mb/s. |
| 14:21.10 | WyrM | at 3mb/s it should work. |
| 14:21.24 | WyrM | depends on header sizes. |
| 14:22.42 | Guest4308 | so we just need to find the code in the rom |
| 14:22.53 | Guest4308 | that enables hci at arbitrary quality |
| 14:22.55 | Guest4308 | :) |
| 14:23.10 | WyrM | or pcm with better quality. |
| 14:23.35 | Guest4308 | yeah but perhaps there is some sort of sco limit |
| 14:23.36 | WyrM | pcm is better for us because you can route it directly to the audio codec, and put the ap to sleep. |
| 14:23.46 | Guest4308 | oh |
| 14:27.51 | Guest4308 | hmm why does your rom only go for 256kb? |
| 14:28.23 | WyrM | don't know. different OEM maybe? |
| 14:29.07 | Guest4308 | mmm |
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| 14:30.47 | fpu | dcordes_, tmzt_: ping |
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| 16:41.37 | tmzt_ | does BT core on the bcm use the same cpu as WiFi core? |
| 16:41.48 | tmzt_ | thanks to paulk_ I found some good docs on it |
| 16:42.04 | Guest4308 | segregated cores |
| 16:42.09 | WyrM | tmzt_: no. |
| 16:42.22 | Guest4308 | there are a bunch of cores inside the bcms |
| 16:42.22 | WyrM | wifi is cortex m3, bt is arm7tdmi. |
| 16:42.38 | Guest4308 | god I want the be a bcm customer |
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| 16:42.56 | tmzt_ | wifi is cortex? |
| 16:42.57 | tmzt_ | hmm |
| 16:43.08 | WyrM | documentation isn't that good anyway. |
| 16:43.49 | Guest4308 | which docs? |
| 16:43.53 | fpu | tmzt_: sorry for the fuss, but my issue with bcm4329, I'm not sure it's related to init |
| 16:44.08 | WyrM | brcm docs. |
| 16:44.23 | fpu | I think it's magldr issue :-( I loaded ubuntu through it, with wifi definitely working, and I'm getting identical errors as on my debian buil |
| 16:44.27 | Guest4308 | no, like public docs or nda docs |
| 16:44.40 | WyrM | nda. |
| 16:44.47 | Guest4308 | fml |
| 16:45.50 | tmzt_ | http://bcm-v4.sipsolutions.net/ChipCommon |
| 16:46.27 | tmzt_ | and this, is this cortex |
| 16:46.31 | tmzt_ | http://bcm-v4.sipsolutions.net/802.11/Microcode |
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| 16:54.26 | fpu | tmzt_: also, you linked me to androix apk |
| 16:54.31 | fpu | do you have it handy? |
| 16:54.41 | fpu | [dreams of mplayer] |
| 16:57.15 | tmzt_ | http://dl.dropbox.com/u/14816535/AndroiX-debug.apk |
| 16:57.23 | tmzt_ | tell me how well mplayer works :) |
| 16:57.26 | tmzt_ | what device do you have |
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| 16:59.04 | fpu | hd2 |
| 17:00.31 | fpu | media players on android are still very very poor |
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| 17:03.48 | Guest283 | wyrm - what is the default fm audio out |
| 17:04.06 | Guest283 | or is there no default? |
| 17:04.26 | WyrM | default is probably i2s. |
| 17:04.57 | WyrM | i have to set a fm register to route to pcm. |
| 17:05.17 | WyrM | and poke the audio peripheral to get audio out. |
| 17:05.44 | Guest283 | you have to poke it as well |
| 17:05.49 | Guest283 | hmm |
| 17:06.19 | Guest283 | i cant wait to get to ida tomorrow |
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| 18:07.31 | fpu | tmzt_: |
| 18:07.39 | fpu | export DISPLAY= ? |
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| 18:15.17 | fpu | basically how to use it |
| 18:15.32 | fpu | I launched it, I have ssh connection to chroot on android, now what? |
| 18:19.15 | fpu | yuppi! :-) xterm works after all |
| 18:19.50 | fpu | and mplayer works too! |
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| 18:31.42 | fpu | it's much better than vnc |
| 18:31.50 | fpu | though still too slow for videos |
| 18:32.26 | raymonddull | fpu: on what phone? |
| 18:33.09 | fpu | it's htc leo |
| 18:33.31 | raymonddull | ahh,hd2 |
| 18:33.40 | raymonddull | chroot ubuntu? |
| 18:33.47 | raymonddull | just boot natively |
| 18:33.52 | arrrghhh | lol |
| 18:34.08 | raymonddull | http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=889433 |
| 18:34.08 | fpu | magldr doesn't boot ubuntu well |
| 18:34.13 | fpu | touchscreen, wifi doesn't work |
| 18:34.22 | fpu | lots of other glitches |
| 18:34.23 | raymonddull | I used that for awhile from sd |
| 18:34.26 | raymonddull | it wasnt bad |
| 18:35.08 | raymonddull | usb host mode was pretty cool |
| 18:35.15 | raymonddull | I had a keyboard and mouse plugged in |
| 18:35.18 | fpu | yes, is sounds pretty cool :-) I was trying to run that myself |
| 18:35.35 | fpu | but it's nonfunctional unless booting from windows mobile |
| 18:35.39 | raymonddull | yeah |
| 18:35.58 | arrrghhh | fpu, why magldr for ubuntu |
| 18:36.01 | arrrghhh | just run it from SD |
| 18:36.11 | raymonddull | when I had my hd2,nand boot was something that was "coming in september" |
| 18:36.21 | fpu | I have nand android |
| 18:36.28 | fpu | ubuntu was booting from SD using magldr |
| 18:36.38 | fpu | but it again didn't work well :-( |
| 18:37.07 | arrrghhh | fpu, winmo |
| 18:37.09 | arrrghhh | HaRET |
| 18:37.39 | fpu | yeah but winmo must be on nand |
| 18:37.43 | arrrghhh | so |
| 18:37.48 | fpu | I have android in nand |
| 18:37.51 | arrrghhh | ... |
| 18:37.59 | fpu | and I use it as my main os |
| 18:38.03 | arrrghhh | then deal |
| 18:38.11 | arrrghhh | you can boot Android from HaRET as well |
| 18:38.13 | arrrghhh | but whatever dude |
| 18:38.26 | fpu | :-) |
| 18:38.51 | arrrghhh | you can't have your cake and eat it too... |
| 18:39.18 | fpu | actually I heard there were ready kernels for ubuntu 0.4 for hd2 release |
| 18:39.23 | fpu | which work well with magldr |
| 18:39.30 | fpu | still unreleased thought... |
| 18:39.34 | fpu | though* |
| 18:39.38 | raymonddull | then bug them to release |
| 18:39.38 | arrrghhh | dunno |
| 18:39.41 | arrrghhh | i haz no hd2 |
| 18:39.47 | raymonddull | I dont either |
| 18:39.48 | arrrghhh | ha |
| 18:39.54 | raymonddull | I want one,but I haz no $ |
| 18:40.31 | arrrghhh | meh. no kbd. |
| 18:40.40 | arrrghhh | i guess i could use it as a glorified iPod |
| 18:40.44 | arrrghhh | but no service, meh. |
| 18:40.56 | raymonddull | oh yeah thats right,you have sprint |
| 18:41.04 | raymonddull | actually using it as a phone is awesome though |
| 18:41.10 | raymonddull | I liked it better than my evo |
| 18:41.40 | arrrghhh | why? |
| 18:41.52 | arrrghhh | seems like the same phone, but the evo has a kickstand lol |
| 18:42.02 | arrrghhh | and runs Android natively... :P |
| 18:43.33 | raymonddull | yeah,its too boring |
| 18:43.38 | raymonddull | I like semi working stuff |
| 18:43.45 | arrrghhh | hahaha |
| 18:43.49 | raymonddull | its fun seeing whats new with each release |
| 18:43.55 | arrrghhh | yea, i know that feeling |
| 18:43.57 | arrrghhh | testing is fun :D |
| 18:44.02 | raymonddull | native devices just kinda work and I hate it |
| 18:44.06 | arrrghhh | lol |
| 18:44.12 | arrrghhh | you can still break them in fantastic ways |
| 18:44.18 | raymonddull | oh yeah |
| 18:44.19 | arrrghhh | you just weren't creative enough :P |
| 18:44.19 | fpu | evo 4g is fat |
| 18:44.24 | raymonddull | fpu: yeah it is |
| 18:44.34 | raymonddull | I have had both,and I agree,the evo is a fatty |
| 18:44.39 | raymonddull | and its heavy too,its not just bid |
| 18:44.42 | raymonddull | big* |
| 18:44.50 | fpu | it's supposed to be big :p |
| 18:44.53 | fpu | 4.3 screen ftw |
| 18:44.55 | arrrghhh | indeed |
| 18:45.02 | arrrghhh | my buddy got the evo3d |
| 18:45.05 | arrrghhh | thing is a beast |
| 18:45.07 | fpu | I also didn't like capacitive button |
| 18:45.13 | fpu | but I guess I could get used to them |
| 18:45.19 | arrrghhh | fpu, i don't think anyone does |
| 18:45.40 | fpu | hates vlc |
| 18:45.44 | fpu | it doesn't want to run as root |
| 18:45.58 | fpu | I think I should edit wiki page on "root" |
| 18:46.05 | fpu | "user that can do everything except running vlc" |
| 18:46.07 | raymonddull | I cant stand the touch buttons |
| 18:46.16 | raymonddull | they bug the crap out of me |
| 18:46.46 | raymonddull | and I played around with the e3d,and on the stock rom at least,it sucks. I had better performance on the half working hd2 9 months ago than that thing does |
| 18:47.16 | fpu | stock roms suck, almost universally |
| 18:47.17 | arrrghhh | raymonddull, i dunno. never played with an hd2, but the e3d is freaking ridiculously fast for what it's running |
| 18:47.22 | arrrghhh | all that bloat, and still fast? :P |
| 18:47.28 | arrrghhh | sense3.0 is bloatybloatbloat |
| 18:47.43 | raymonddull | yeah it is |
| 18:47.54 | raymonddull | I cant wait till it gets perm root and something not sense 3.0 |
| 18:48.04 | raymonddull | though sense 3.0 ran about the same on my evo 4g |
| 18:48.27 | arrrghhh | i like the lock screen on 3.0 |
| 18:48.29 | fpu | you still can't have custom roms on evo3d? lol |
| 18:48.30 | arrrghhh | but everything else is... bleh |
| 18:48.52 | raymonddull | I sold it,a droid 2 i had as a tester,and my intercept,so now I'm down to an optimus v and iphone 2g for now till I find something that interests me |
| 18:48.56 | arrrghhh | fpu, they don't have permanent root from HTC yet. but there's a temp root no? dunno. my buddy's too dumb to care about that crap. |
| 18:49.22 | raymonddull | yeah theres temp root on stock rom,but no recovery and no nand unlock |
| 18:49.30 | fpu | ahh old iphones |
| 18:49.43 | fpu | My 3g still works, sits in closet behind me |
| 18:49.45 | raymonddull | yeah,it dual boots iOS and gingerbread |
| 18:49.49 | fpu | it has broken screen thought :p |
| 18:50.01 | fpu | iDroid aye? |
| 18:50.06 | raymonddull | yeah |
| 18:50.09 | fpu | experimented with linux on iphone |
| 18:50.15 | fpu | but no power management makes it unusable |
| 18:50.23 | fpu | like, completely unusable |
| 18:50.25 | raymonddull | here's what works on what: http://www.idroidproject.org/wiki/Status |
| 18:50.35 | raymonddull | it runs for about 2 hours on a brand new full battery |
| 18:51.50 | arrrghhh | lol |
| 18:51.56 | arrrghhh | iPhone's are pretty useless. |
| 18:52.21 | raymonddull | but I get like 4 days of pretty heavy texting usage in iOS though |
| 18:52.32 | raymonddull | I havent been able to touch that on any android phone I've had ever |
| 18:52.49 | raymonddull | winmo comes close |
| 18:53.14 | fpu | there are android phones with good battery life |
| 18:54.42 | raymonddull | like what? I've had the g1,n1,vibrant,fascinate,hd2,evo,nexus s,optimus v,droid incredible,droid 2,intercept,mytouch 3g slide,cliq,cliq xt,and probably more I cant remember |
| 18:55.03 | raymonddull | none of which lasted more than a day with my usage |
| 18:55.14 | arrrghhh | your usage isn't normal |
| 18:55.19 | raymonddull | I know |
| 18:56.04 | raymonddull | my usage DEFINITELY isnt normal: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/14474427/netbook/DSCN1861.JPG |
| 18:56.41 | arrrghhh | raymonddull, wth |
| 18:56.46 | raymonddull | lol |
| 18:57.00 | raymonddull | you dont remember that? |
| 18:57.12 | arrrghhh | No notifications? |
| 18:57.16 | arrrghhh | or the T-Mobile#@ crap |
| 18:57.21 | arrrghhh | that's whatever their tower is broadcasting |
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| 18:57.34 | raymonddull | no,tmobile on a sprint tp2 running froyo |
| 18:57.42 | arrrghhh | oh |
| 18:57.45 | arrrghhh | lots of people do that |
| 18:57.52 | raymonddull | seriously? |
| 18:57.58 | raymonddull | I thought i was unique |
| 18:58.00 | arrrghhh | we have people all over the world with RHOD400/500's on GSM networks |
| 18:58.00 | raymonddull | oh well |
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| 18:58.15 | arrrghhh | there was this one in Venezula, their carrier used BOTH |
| 18:58.16 | arrrghhh | lol |
| 18:58.31 | arrrghhh | so they used it on CDMA and GSM, but it was all the same carrier |
| 18:58.33 | arrrghhh | beat that |
| 18:58.52 | raymonddull | and i'm not even a weirdo for using the iphone on tmobile anymore either because there are over a million of them on tmobile now |
| 18:59.10 | raymonddull | http://www.tmonews.com/2011/06/t-mobile-says-over-one-million-iphones-currently-on-the-network/ |
| 19:00.14 | arrrghhh | ha |
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| 19:01.23 | raymonddull | lmfao,I'm going through my dropbox and I still have a kernel and modules from feburary |
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| 19:03.01 | raymonddull | is this bad? http://dl.dropbox.com/u/14474427/irc/snap20110608_145447.png |
| 19:04.37 | arrrghhh | maybe |
| 19:05.00 | raymonddull | evo with sense 3.0 |
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| 19:10.35 | fpu | what evo? |
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| 19:34.12 | raymonddull | original evo |
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| 19:46.07 | fpu | well my hd2 has smaller battery and definitely lasts longer |
| 19:46.24 | fpu | UNLESS you're using 4g which from what I heard is real drainer |
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| 20:27.31 | tmzt_ | fpu: yeah, video is going to be slow, there is no XV support at all |
| 20:27.58 | tmzt_ | I need more people contributing and to get the build system working again, as I have a pull request that fixes a lot of things and no way to test it |
| 20:29.02 | fpu | I'm not a dev but if anything else could be done I'd gladly help |
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