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00:29.53zeroxanyone familiar with an issue where network operator will not register on init? I am porting a rom...
00:30.45zeroxI can register the network manually but the network is forgotten on a reboot.
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02:18.04Entropy512Does anyone know what tiad8 changes in his Android builds from the standard xdandroid repos?  Specifically he says "fast download. from market and browser" - I've noticed the market and browser when building from the xdandroid repos are VERY slow, seems to be a CPU issue,
02:18.38Entropy512running wireshark indicates that the receive buffer is filling up and we're reporting a zero advertised window (e.g. app isn't read()ing from the TCP receive buffer)
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02:19.21Entropy512ofc wireshark/tcpdump could be interfering, but it seems about the same download performance with or without it running.
02:26.14rpierce99WisTilt2: hows the RIL work going
02:27.18WisTilt2slow but steady
02:28.22rpierce99must have been in pretty bad shape :)
02:29.25WisTilt2mainly missing most of the cdma stuff so creating that is taking the most time.
02:30.05rpierce99well on behalf of all of sprint and verizons customers, I apologize for existing
02:31.06WisTilt2lol
02:32.17WisTilt2looks like we should have a test ril ready with most of the cdma stuff ready in a few days.
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02:33.14WisTilt2have you had that 30sec sleep problem happen frequently?
02:34.14rpierce99it's doing it right now, it does seem to be related to making calls in some way. The other day I was fine, made a phone call, and immediately watched it go to 30s sleep after
02:34.26WisTilt2whats your battery level?
02:35.15rpierce99doesn't seem to go away on its own either, i haven't made a call in hours87%
02:36.32WisTilt2my be coincidence but it seems to happen when battery level is around 70% or so. making a call puts load on battery and it drops.  just noticed that a couple times today myself.  with fully charged batt making calls didn't cause it.
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02:37.52rpierce99i had a guy blame the SoDs on the battery level earlier, only problem is it's an unreliable report because he's a total noob to the xda android threads, so no idea if his story checks out, but he says on his rhod100 it sods withing 5 minutes of hitting 50%
02:39.31rpierce99but the wakelocks in powermanagerservice do seem to indicate the issue is somewhere in that code, so it would make more sense than calls in that respect
02:39.53WisTilt2hmm, thats a good possibility actually.  lower battery voltage could cause a clock problem that might take a bit longer to stabilize when firing up.
02:40.56rpierce99yeah i told the guy that could be a really helpful report, but he needed to give us more info. He's running your test kernel, but we don't know if the SoDs occurred with autobuild or what build he's on or anything like that
02:40.59WisTilt2especially of cpu clock jumps up to max out of sleep and voltage is a tad low.
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02:44.53WisTilt2need to bounce this off jonpry.  the code that switches cpu voltage may not be like it should be
02:45.33rpierce99i mentioned it to him earlier, so he's at least aware of the report
02:46.31rpierce99has arrrghhh asked you about 2g gsm buzz on speakerphone?
02:48.27WisTilt2some time ago i remember something about that.  2g/3g shouldnt make any difference though, unless rf is actually getting back into the speaker amp
02:49.07WisTilt2i know 2g makes all kind of noise on a nearby radio or regular phone
02:50.11rpierce99yeah a forums user is saying that the buzz on the speakerphone is unbearable when running android + 2g, winmo supposedly doesn't have the problem and 3g is either better or perfect
02:50.58rpierce99arrrghhh told him to post a bug but we thought there would be more reports if it was that bad, but not sure how often people really run on 2g AND use spearkerphone
02:52.23Entropy512WisTilt2: 2g/3g would make a difference, as the RF envelopes are significantly different
02:52.33Entropy5123g shouldn't ever cause the classic "GSM buzz"
02:52.55Entropy512since it has a fairly constant RF envelope, instead of pulsing at the TDMA frame repetition rate of 2G GSM
02:52.59rpierce99Entropy512: I forgot you had a GSM phone, do you get the issue?
02:53.08WisTilt2wouldnt 2g buzz also be showing up in winmo though if its an rf issue?
02:53.24Entropy512I've only used speaker once, and I was on 3G at the time
02:53.43Entropy512guess I could try testing by forcing a 2G band (actually, I've never done a band force in Android...)
02:53.56rpierce99i think you can disable 3g in settings
02:54.03Entropy512lemme check
02:55.02Entropy512I found it in settings, but the option is grey.
02:55.16Entropy512odd
02:56.05Entropy512as to why it doesn't show up in winmo - that's what seems strange to me, unless an audio i/o path is set differently in android
02:56.35rpierce99could it be software noise cancellation of some sort?
02:56.39Entropy512As you can surmise - I haven't ever encountered the problem myself since I rarely use speaker
02:57.20Entropy512but I'm willing to test it out to see if I can reproduce that guy's problem
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02:58.16Entropy512It makes sense that CDMA users and 3G GSM users (which is also CDMA modulation, just not Qualcomm's cdmaOne/CDMA2000 protocol stack) don't have the issue
02:58.17WisTilt2i think that problem will go away with jb's audience patch.  i wrote the speakerphone fix but it's not using audience.  it forces the audio routing to both handset and rear speaker so it could be that combo doing it and no one noticed it on 3g
02:59.04rpierce99WisTilt2: is that the group of kernel commits that went in today?
02:59.33WisTilt2no, i did the speakerphone sometime last year so it's been in the git tree for many months
02:59.45rpierce99no i meant jbs audio
03:00.12WisTilt2oh, didnt even look at what was committed yet.  today you say?  ill take a look
03:01.06Entropy512wth?  now the "Use only 2G networks" option is not grey...  All I did was let the phone go to sleep.  Really weird.
03:01.46rpierce99Entropy512: hows the gps stuff going
03:02.15WisTilt2looks like mostly BT commits
03:02.30Entropy512I think later this week I'll at least submit a patch to do the data validity fix and the debugging fix (currently gps-rpc.c is all printf()s, not Android debugging macros)
03:02.39NeoMatrixJRjb's work requires updated libs right?  Has he got instructions out anywhere to set that up?
03:03.30rpierce99Entropy512: any idea why it never fully shuts down?
03:03.43NeoMatrixJRI tried following some from Alex, but all it does is put out very static-y audio that increases in volume and then it just cuts off.  If I try and make a 2nd call the phone reboots (running jb's kernel I built earlier today)
03:03.59Entropy512No clue - There's a LOT in terms of what is going on there that I don't understand.
03:04.17NeoMatrixJRbah... I gotta reboot.
03:04.22Entropy512The only thing I'm sure of is that PDSM_PD_EVENT_HEIGHT in the event mask for dispatch_pdsm_pd() is not what we think it is
03:04.31Entropy512what it is - I don't know, but it's not height
03:04.42Entropy512can't have height without lat/long from a GPS
03:04.50rpierce99yeah the getting lock in the middle of the ocean fix will be great, should eliminate a ton of the noob spam
03:06.24Entropy512Yeah, that one's an easy fix, just change if(fix.flags) to if(fix.flags & GPS_LOCATION_HAS_LAT_LONG)
03:07.00Entropy512imo it's a workaround for some deeper issues, but at this point best to get that fix out since it's freaking annoying and obvious
03:07.29Entropy512i'll try to figure out the proper process for generating a git patch tomorrow or Wednesday.  :)
03:08.03Entropy512Oh and I just confirmed that 2G GSM + speakerphone = GSM buzz, that is a valid bug it turns out.
03:08.37rpierce99yay for progress! I still don't care (I especially don't care because I'm on CDMA)
03:09.33rpierce99but really it seems fairly uncommon because <% of people on 2g regularly> * < % of people who use speakerphone> is relatively small i think
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03:10.23Entropy512(Forced network to 2G, dialed voicemail, got the buzz)
03:11.22Entropy512yup, exactly my case - I had to force 2G and use speaker to get it to happen
03:11.40Entropy512and in fact the one situation where I've used the speaker, I would have failed on 2G (simultaneous voice and data)
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03:15.46Entropy512hmm, I wonder which wakelock the Facebook app triggers.  god what a bugridden app that is.  :(
03:15.57Entropy512time for some dmesg-fu
03:17.01rpierce99i've got money on some combination of powermanagerservice and evdev
03:17.28rpierce99seems like they are always my troublemakers
03:18.10Entropy512holy fuck that's a lot of wakelocks, I've never seen that many
03:18.58Entropy512including one garbage one...
03:23.58Entropy512OK, time for The Event and then bed, talk to you all later
03:24.21[acl]stinebd: bro .. quick question..
03:24.49[acl]stinebd: bahh ill email you :-p
03:24.51rpierce99[acl]: haven't heard from stinebd all day, having said that he will now promptly respond
03:25.09[acl]he responds to emails so ill him up there
03:25.10[acl]thanks
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03:27.00rpierce99Entropy512: , tiad8 just answered you, as I expected, he did absolutely nothing, and if he did do something, he has no idea what it is
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03:33.41MassestStash[acl], is that recoveryinstall good to go? or adb isntall neccessary?
03:34.24[acl]adb bro
03:34.37[acl]thing is.. even if you install it now, you will need to wipe your device
03:34.47[acl]there is no backup and restore feature yet
03:35.37MassestStashah yea? you need feedback from it really then, or wha? not the biggest deal to wipe, i've just been chillin half rooted nand since data worked lol
03:35.52[acl]lol
03:35.56MassestStashright
03:36.09[acl]MassestStash: recovery is just not there yet. Why half rooted?
03:36.10MassestStashcant wait for you ta hit the kernel up
03:36.21MassestStashshit like titanium doesnt work
03:36.28[acl]hmm
03:36.29MassestStashbut clocksync n superuser do
03:36.31[acl]look at logs ?
03:36.35MassestStashnah havent
03:36.38[acl]damn
03:36.40MassestStashso if i terminal
03:36.57MassestStashi can't "su root" but can get root by /system/bin/su
03:37.00MassestStashthat help?
03:37.09MassestStasha knowledged one...
03:37.22[acl]well usually all you need to do is type su
03:37.33[acl]also make sure the su perms are right
03:37.43[acl]chmod 4755 su
03:37.49MassestStashyea whats the command to check perms on something?
03:38.08[acl]if you do ls -l it will show u the perms
03:38.21[acl]get to it yo.. :-p
03:38.45MassestStashyea "su' gets suid BS
03:39.06MassestStash-rwsr-xr-x
03:39.23[acl]thats good
03:39.32[acl]check both /bin and xbin
03:40.44MassestStashk
03:42.48MassestStashlrwxrwxrwx
03:42.59MassestStash-rwxr-wr-x
03:43.02MassestStashrespectively
03:43.15MassestStashcant chmod su from phone haha
03:43.24MassestStashlookin for usb cable...
03:45.05[acl]damn
03:45.08[acl]do it up yo
03:45.17[acl]so u can teach em fools postin nonsense
03:48.28MassestStashyea shits pissin me too lol
03:48.37MassestStashwanna help so we minimize em for sure
03:48.50MassestStashmount -o rw,remount -t yaffs2 /system'ed it
03:48.55MassestStashchmoded that bitch
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03:49.10MassestStashis chmodin bin or xbin neccessary then?
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03:50.59MassestStashno change still cant su
03:51.21[acl]so if u type su, you get what ? error?
03:54.35MassestStashsu: must be suid to work properly
03:55.11[acl]hmm
03:55.17[acl]maybe its trying to run the bin version
03:55.19[acl]let me check
03:56.42MassestStashk
03:57.27[acl]check if there is anything in /sbin
04:01.06[acl]fuk i guess ill have to look into this
04:01.12[acl]there is like 3 su around
04:03.12MassestStashah shit
04:03.40MassestStash-/sbin = adbd
04:04.06rpierce99MassestStash: try "which su"
04:05.19MassestStashlol
04:05.36rpierce99?
04:06.26MassestStashhuh?
04:06.41rpierce99which is a command, tells you what su is trying to run when you type su
04:06.41MassestStashwe need
04:06.42MassestStashsu
04:06.51MassestStashdah ok
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04:07.13MassestStash-/bin/su
04:07.42MassestStash-/bin/su pointing to....
04:07.47MassestStashhow can i check that shit?
04:07.53rpierce99ls -l /bin/su
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04:08.40rpierce99is that first char part of the output
04:08.46rpierce99doesn't look like a ~ to me
04:08.57rpierce99maybe just my irc client
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04:15.06MassestStashnah, if i start with / you dont seez nuthin
04:15.13MassestStashls -l /bin/su
04:15.31MassestStashlrwxrwxrwx
04:16.22rpierce99you mean the dash?
04:17.48MassestStashno sir
04:18.09rpierce99your output confuses me, when i do which su all i get is "/bin/su", you put a - in yours, or did your phone do that
04:18.39MassestStashMassestStash> nah, if i start with / you dont seez nuthin
04:18.52MassestStashif i start with just "/bin/something something"
04:18.56MassestStashit doesnt f'in send
04:19.10rpierce99ohhh it doesn't send in IRC
04:19.18MassestStashriiight
04:19.20rpierce99i just put a space in, but i get ya
04:19.27MassestStashderka, koo koo
04:19.43rpierce99what is the ownership on that file?
04:20.21MassestStash1root root
04:20.30MassestStash->  busybox
04:20.49MassestStash7 Jan 1  1970 /bin/su - >  busybox
04:20.59rpierce99bin/su is symlinked to busybox
04:21.01rpierce99hm
04:21.38rpierce99i don't know anything about rooting, but that can't be right, can it?
04:21.58MassestStashdah, thats the symlink target eh...?
04:22.40rpierce99from the man page: If
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04:23.13rpierce99do you have an xbin/su
04:24.10rpierce99i think you said you did earlier
04:24.38MassestStasherrr
04:25.17MassestStashone sec
04:28.29rpierce99you should have one if they haven't modified the frx05 system image for nand, try executing /system/xbin/su
04:29.48Entropy512rpierce99: oh god, you're right, that was such an epic nonanswer from tiad8
04:29.52Entropy512:(
04:29.55MassestStashwell i can run /system/bin/su
04:30.01rpierce99does it give you #
04:30.08MassestStashbut thats not getting titanium BkUp working...
04:30.09rpierce99wait
04:30.28rpierce99<PROTECTED>
04:30.33MassestStashwe need just su to work i;m guessing
04:30.45MassestStash<PROTECTED>
04:30.46rpierce99i'm just making sure you have the file, if you have it you can break the symlink and copy it if necessary
04:31.01rpierce99oh
04:31.20rpierce99but is running busybox the same as running su?
04:31.45rpierce99Entropy512: you can't expect anything else from that dud
04:31.46rpierce99e
04:32.32Entropy512yeah...  it would be nice if we could roll whatever fixes he's done back into the main xdandroid tree
04:32.38Entropy512but it sounds like that'll never happen
04:33.02[acl]MassestStash: ok.. looks like we need to kill the simlink from /bin
04:33.11[acl]or remove it from the android path
04:33.33MassestStashah yea
04:33.44MassestStashrm -r /bin/su or sumthin?
04:33.51[acl]you cant
04:34.02[acl]bin is in the initrd
04:34.19[acl]you can try to remount root
04:34.26[acl]mount -o rw,remount /
04:34.30[acl]then go to bin
04:34.31[acl]and rm su
04:34.36[acl]but thats a temp fix
04:34.39[acl]until u reboot
04:34.59rpierce99but if that works, we know what we need to fix, right?
04:35.12Entropy512I guess all I can do is download his build and then reverse engineer it.  :P
04:35.24[acl]MassestStash: or you can try to mod your path
04:35.26Entropy512but that's something for another night, should've gone to sleep an hour ago.  :)
04:35.29rpierce99Entropy512: not work your time
04:35.31MassestStashzaireeka@zaireeka-pc:~$ adb shell
04:35.32MassestStash# cd bin
04:35.32MassestStash# mount -o rw,remount -t yaffs /system
04:35.32MassestStash# rm -r su
04:35.33MassestStashrm: cann
04:35.36rpierce99it doesn't do anything differently
04:35.46MassestStashot remove 'su': Read-only file system
04:35.50[acl]MassestStash: no
04:35.52Entropy512oh, so market/browser is probably not actually faster
04:35.59rpierce99no
04:36.12Entropy512might just be I have a crappy SD card - market downloads are awful for me, CPU gets pegged
04:36.15[acl]MassestStash: mount -o rw,remount /
04:36.16rpierce99i've yet to see any evidence that it is
04:36.17[acl]no system
04:36.24MassestStashah yea yea
04:36.33Entropy512but the fact that much of it is iowait says it might be an SD problem
04:36.44[acl]plus we use yaffs2.. not yaffs
04:36.46[acl]:-p
04:36.50[acl]but dont type that
04:37.23MassestStashmistype
04:37.26MassestStashredid
04:37.32Ondalfif iowait is high in 2.6.32 - 2.6.37 kernels, its a feature.
04:37.34MassestStashrm su went through
04:37.47MassestStashworking now
04:37.48[acl]try your shenanigans
04:37.48MassestStashjust su
04:37.56MassestStashlets try a program or something
04:38.01[acl]yeah
04:38.03Entropy512it's a 2.6.27
04:38.11rpierce99remount ro first
04:38.14rpierce99to make sure it's not that
04:38.19rpierce99imho
04:38.35MassestStashi like my shit rw
04:38.36MassestStashlol
04:38.47rpierce99it's probably not the rw, so go ahead
04:39.07Entropy512market downloads are EXTREMELY slow, and when I tried Wiresharking it, there were lots of zero window situations, indicating that the market app wasn't emptying the TCP receive buffer properly
04:39.21Entropy512so bad that the other end was retransmitting
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04:39.46MassestStashsysmonitor's tweakin lol
04:40.18[acl]MassestStash: i hate being right .. :-p
04:40.28[acl]cuz it means i was wrong the first time :-(
04:40.41Entropy512ok, time for bed now, really!
04:40.42pyrorobso, there a specific channel for hd2 android development?
04:41.09pyrorobif you dont mind me asking..
04:41.16[acl]android ? not sure
04:41.28[acl]what do yall even use as an android  base?
04:41.37pyrorobdesire builds
04:41.47[acl]ahh.. then not sude
04:41.49[acl]*sure
04:41.53[acl]MassestStash: so we good?
04:42.48pyrorobwell.. i guess asking here is better then not, but does anyone have experiance with the htccamera apk?
04:43.02MassestStashima check some stuff ta confirm
04:43.20[acl]MassestStash: ta ?
04:43.48rpierce99[acl]: are you not used to this by now, lol
04:44.16[acl]rpierce99: you wuld think .. but cant seem to get used to it
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04:49.04arrrghhhWisTilt2, wassup
04:52.06MassestStashreboot su not working now
04:52.07MassestStashlol
04:52.20[acl]MassestStash: course not.. told you u cant change initrd
04:52.31rpierce99but it worked prior to the reboot i assume
04:52.34MassestStashoh ok that still stands got cah
04:52.39MassestStashright
04:52.48MassestStashsooooo can i roll my own yet [acl]?
04:52.54[acl]why not?
04:52.57MassestStashi like-a-da home on end
04:53.05MassestStashpower = power
04:53.14MassestStashand back mute button = endcall
04:53.34[acl]roll it
04:53.36[acl]do it up
04:54.00MassestStashbeen getin stuck at first boot.... that going to happen to me still?
04:54.12[acl]nahh thats just you
04:54.18[acl]lol
04:54.24[acl]not sure what ur issues is
04:54.34rpierce99as my teachers always said "you can't fix stupid" :P
04:54.39[acl]lol
04:54.41arrrghhhdamn
04:54.44MassestStashahhhh man dnt tell me that......
04:54.59MassestStashyou bastid
04:55.10rpierce99hasn't been able to boot his own kernels at all
04:55.18[acl]MassestStash: you can try another approach ...
04:55.27[acl]MassestStash: but it might break more stuff :-p
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04:57.38arrrghhhrpierce99 Entropy512: , tiad8 just answered you, as I expected, he did absolutely nothing, and if he did do something, he has no idea what it is
04:57.41arrrghhh^^ LOL
04:57.50rpierce99:)
04:57.56arrrghhhclassic tiad
04:58.01[acl]huh?
04:58.02arrrghhhask him how he 'fixed' something
04:58.05arrrghhhand he really has no clue.
04:58.07[acl]arrrghhh: sup ?
04:58.12arrrghhh[acl], nada
04:58.13[acl]arrrghhh: someone up to no good?
04:58.15arrrghhhjust readin the logs
04:58.22arrrghhhgettin some lulz out of 'em
04:58.28WisTilt2hey arrrghhh, im here but right in the middle of a test that i have to watch as it run.  bb in a bit
04:58.31arrrghhheh
04:58.40arrrghhhWisTilt2, oh np.
04:58.43[acl]i smell shenanigans
04:58.57arrrghhh[acl], that describes tiad8 and the threads he spews
04:59.04[acl]what happened ?
04:59.13arrrghhheh he kangs crap
04:59.15arrrghhhrebrands it
04:59.19arrrghhhthen says it all works
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04:59.34[acl]damn so rebranding fixes stuff?
04:59.35arrrghhhand he got pressured into at least partially saying thanks and where he's getting his crap from
04:59.46arrrghhhlol no
04:59.52arrrghhhstealing jb's kernel fixed cam at the time
04:59.58[acl]if i rebrand the ril, will it work better ? :-p
05:00.03arrrghhhstealing some huawei crap gave a perceived speed increase
05:00.06arrrghhh[acl], yes
05:00.12arrrghhhESPECIALLY IF YOU SELL THAT SHIT LIKE THIS
05:00.21arrrghhhZOMG GUYS THIS IS SO AMAZING.  I MUST TELL YOU.  IT'S AMAZING.
05:00.29[acl]someone selling shit ?
05:00.37arrrghhhhe's more marketing than anything
05:00.45arrrghhhbad marketing at that.
05:01.18arrrghhhi guess forum marketing?  heh
05:02.00arrrghhhoh no i'm not incinuating he's making people pay for his garbage
05:02.09arrrghhhand at least when he kanged BLAZN he didn't rebrand it lol
05:02.10[acl]ahh
05:02.10[acl]ok
05:02.16[acl]but whats the downside so far?
05:02.26MassestStashso get rid of su link in initrd/bin/ right?
05:02.28arrrghhhwalls of noobs experiencing old bugs
05:02.36arrrghhhdevs getting pissed off
05:02.38[acl]MassestStash: yep
05:02.39arrrghhhuhhhh
05:02.43arrrghhhi guess that's it.
05:02.56arrrghhhoverall annoying to read his posts, but whatever, i can get over that part.
05:02.59[acl]arrrghhh: devs getting pissed? have i been missing in action for that long
05:03.02rpierce998 threads containing the exact same post
05:03.11arrrghhh[acl], wasn't THAT much action.
05:03.12MassestStashstrange... isnt that where we were trying to put it before? haha
05:03.32arrrghhhmods didn't really seem to mess with him much
05:03.42[acl]ehh
05:03.44arrrghhhi think he reached out to some of the developers
05:03.53arrrghhhhe's kinda tried to make ammends
05:03.58[acl]i say let the noobs die
05:04.05arrrghhhlol
05:04.07[acl]and run whatever shit they want
05:04.12arrrghhhoh yea
05:04.15arrrghhhrun his shit they do
05:04.30arrrghhhit's kinda nice really, not too many noobs posting in mah threads anymore.  i mean they still do, just not as much :P
05:04.35rpierce99[acl]: the problem is his builds are broken, but he doesn't really help any of them all that much, so they flood the other threads looking for support
05:04.44arrrghhhor make new threads
05:04.46[acl]rpierce99: ahh
05:05.00[acl]we had that same issue in the past with reef
05:05.06arrrghhhlol nj?
05:05.17arrrghhhhe was kinda hurt when i 'took over' frx builds
05:05.21[acl]well peeps would post about blan
05:05.28[acl]blazn
05:05.33arrrghhhyea
05:05.35[acl]and no one here knew what it it was
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05:05.41arrrghhhlol
05:05.42[acl]so half the time someone told em to fuck off
05:05.45rpierce99arrrghhh: i had a guy tell me that FRX05 wasn't on the "downloads page" earlier, turns out he was on reefs page
05:05.49arrrghhhyea i remember that.
05:05.53arrrghhhrpierce99, yea
05:06.01arrrghhhmods at ppcg moved the posts around, recognized it
05:06.07arrrghhhmods at xda-devs... still haven't.
05:06.22[acl]anyways.. fuck em.. let noobs rot and let em know u only support xdandroid. all we could do
05:06.31[acl]thats what i do at least
05:06.32arrrghhhyea, that's mostly what i do
05:06.35[acl]nice
05:06.36arrrghhhuse XDAndroid as a litmus test
05:06.43arrrghhh'does it work on XDA?  then fuckin use it'
05:06.54arrrghhh:D
05:06.59rpierce99yeah that got arrrghhh in trouble with one dude earlier. Apparently arrrghhh is the jackass making our project suck and keeping out all the good devs :)
05:07.09arrrghhho right
05:07.18arrrghhhalmost forgot about that prick.
05:07.24[acl]wow who said that?
05:07.27arrrghhhsmudging my freakin testing thread
05:07.37arrrghhhand that guy ranting for 2 pages in my gb thread? LOL
05:07.43[acl]wow
05:07.46arrrghhh[acl], some clown on ppcg
05:07.54arrrghhhyea some dude with a DIAM
05:08.19arrrghhhsaid that we were focusing on cool things like cam and leaving core features like sleep and the phone functionality behind heh
05:08.30arrrghhhdude with the DIAM was the gb thread
05:08.44arrrghhhthe clown at ppcg said i'm keeping out all the good devs...
05:09.03arrrghhhi realize now that my thoughts typed out aren't very coherent.
05:09.25arrrghhhbut yea, bullplop in mah threads recently...
05:09.54rpierce99if you'd like to read it: http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/tp2-android-development/138784-testing-updated-3-11-11-new-kernel-tons-changes-45.html#post2068366
05:10.08[acl]oo let me get some popcorn
05:10.12MassestStash[acl], may i see your nbh and xip script so i stop askin bout my jank ass own rolling...?
05:10.22rpierce99hm that isn't the dev
05:10.28rpierce99the dev must be the diam guy on xda
05:10.30[acl]MassestStash: its on git bro.. i work off git
05:10.43arrrghhhrpierce99, yea which situation we talking bout lol
05:10.53arrrghhhall sorts of drama
05:11.17MassestStashyou use the one with wozzer in it?
05:11.27MassestStashah thats the buildkernel
05:11.30MassestStashnermind
05:11.37[acl]MassestStash: well i used my name but yea
05:12.20Ondalfarrrghhh, well its good that every project has those since i'd feel alone with the project i've been involved that has gotten "when the shit hit the fan" effect ;)
05:12.42arrrghhhOndalf, heh
05:12.48arrrghhhalways polarizing personalities online
05:12.51[acl]arrrghhh: interesting..
05:12.54arrrghhhwith the addition of anon
05:13.29Ondalfyeah, too bad there was lots of them when this japanese tsunami happened along the hydrogen bam at nuclear powerplant :|
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05:16.44[acl]arrrghhh: well that was entertaining. we have all been through it tho.. so i guess its ur turn now :-)
05:16.56arrrghhhyea
05:16.57arrrghhhagain
05:16.58arrrghhh:P
05:17.08Ondalfwell it never stops ;)
05:17.11arrrghhhi started a semi-public spat with tiad8, and let's just say the noobwall got angry.
05:17.19arrrghhhwall of angry n00bz
05:17.34arrrghhhi should make that game
05:17.38arrrghhhscrew angry birdz
05:17.42arrrghhhangry n00bz
05:19.26[acl]i guess i dont mess with userland guys that much
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05:20.03arrrghhheh i mess with them if they're pissing off good developers
05:20.35arrrghhhhe pissed me off from the beginning, but that's not a good enough reason to get up in his shit... i had/have very valid reasons for doing so.
05:20.41arrrghhhjerome said he got a PM from him
05:21.07arrrghhhnot really asking if he could use his cam kernels in his builds, but just saying that he was going to improve his cam kernels...
05:21.32[acl]hmm didnt know he did kernel work
05:21.32arrrghhhby stealing it and throwing it in with your shite?  yea... don't think so.
05:21.46arrrghhhyea he doesn't do any 'work'.  that's the point.
05:22.07arrrghhhhe finds shit, throws it against the wall and sees if it works.
05:22.22arrrghhhhis build.prop file is a hilarious mix of idiocy
05:22.28[acl]dang
05:22.48arrrghhhyou should see it, i think i still have the list of ridiculousness in it.
05:23.31[acl]nahh its all good. ive seen some bad shit in my day already
05:23.31arrrghhhfor one he defines two board.platforms
05:23.41arrrghhhone for msm7k, one qsd8k lol
05:23.52rpierce99my favorite was pm.sleep_mode=1,2,3
05:23.59arrrghhhbunch of random bt crap that does nothing
05:24.04arrrghhhrpierce99, oh yea... that was great
05:24.14arrrghhhand then when i proved it would get ignored by the kernel
05:24.33arrrghhhhe just said that it worked great for him, so he's going to keep using it...
05:24.42[acl]lol.. you should read some of phhs old posts.. they were classic.
05:24.44arrrghhhi'm assuming he was just running on 0 then?  meh.
05:24.53arrrghhhphh does have some doozies
05:24.57[acl]phh would tear some animals apprt
05:25.01arrrghhhyea
05:25.03[acl]i mean quote code and shit
05:25.03arrrghhhi remember that.
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05:25.08[acl]lol
05:25.10arrrghhhlol
05:25.12[acl]ahh man i miss those
05:25.16[acl]need to look some up
05:25.21arrrghhhheh
05:25.31[acl]anyways fellas i gotta get going
05:25.34[acl]ill ttyl
05:25.38arrrghhhpeace
05:25.42[acl]arrrghhh: take it easy bro.. wooossaaa
05:25.49arrrghhh;)
05:25.51arrrghhhdamn
05:28.24arrrghhhrpierce99, zomg tiad's wife posts exactly like him, and as him.
05:28.28arrrghhhmaybe his wife... IS HIM
05:28.41arrrghhhhttp://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=12103748&postcount=19
05:28.48rpierce99that was the funniest post ever, assuming it was his wife and not him quoting his wife
05:28.55arrrghhhLOL
05:28.58arrrghhhWIFE
05:29.24rpierce99although WIFE needs to realize that tiad wasn't on yesterday
05:29.32arrrghhhheh
05:30.22rpierce99you can always tell when he's been on because you have to read the same post 12 times to get all the threads marked as read again
05:30.49arrrghhhyea
05:31.03arrrghhhctrl-c ctrl-v is strong with this one for sure.
05:35.29WisTilt2arrrghhh/rpierce99: either of you guys notice when the 30s sleep starts happening after a call if you had sent or received an sms prior?
05:35.43rpierce99doubtful, almost never use true sms
05:35.50arrrghhhWisTilt2, +1, google voice...
05:36.05WisTilt2any kind of text msg
05:36.10arrrghhhit uses data
05:36.11arrrghhhGV
05:36.23arrrghhhi can test it if you want
05:36.29arrrghhhsend a text then make a call?
05:36.33arrrghhhsee how it sleeps?
05:36.39WisTilt2yes
05:36.40arrrghhhi'm in the dreadful cycle now, i'll have to reboot.
05:37.01arrrghhhso how goes it sir?
05:37.25WisTilt2rpierce99, if you boot, then after everything is stable for a few mins you just make a call and nothing else does the 30s sleep start right away?
05:39.21arrrghhhyes, from my experience ^^
05:39.25WisTilt2arrrghhh: i made some changes to the the way the cpu clock is handled when going into sleep and waking.  i have called my phone, used data while in a call, texts, dozens of times now, drained battery down to 60% from full during all this and sleeps under 1s still and wakes every time.
05:39.40arrrghhhused data in a call, are you just rubbing it in?  :P
05:39.53WisTilt2lol nice to be on at&t for that for sure
05:39.55arrrghhhthat is nice tho :D
05:40.05WisTilt2actually data seems faster while in a call if you can believe that
05:40.06arrrghhhi heard vz is patching 3g on the thunderbolt so it can
05:40.23arrrghhhwhy the fawk wouldn't they provide that patch to all their phones
05:40.28arrrghhhand sprint do it too so i can enjoy :D
05:40.51arrrghhhah well.  test kernel for me & perhaps the angry massses?
05:41.10arrrghhhbeen having some trolls in my threads of late.
05:41.25MassestStash[acl], so what will the install script do with the recovery.tgz if i have that in the andboot file on fresh install? lol
05:41.35MassestStashjust skip it
05:41.41MassestStash?
05:41.49WisTilt2not tonight.  this kludge i have running right now can actually mess up someones phone
05:42.50arrrghhhOo
05:42.58arrrghhhno worries man
05:43.02WisTilt2i need to talk to jonpry about something in the cpu voltage settings also, i dont think they're right
05:43.33WisTilt2damn lost pierce
05:43.36MassestStashdah
05:43.57arrrghhhWisTilt2, i did notice an increase of people getting reboots to winmo
05:44.11WisTilt2arrrghhh can you try rebooting, make sure it sleeps quick then make a call without any data use and see if it still sleeps quick?
05:44.33WisTilt2i haven't had reboot to winmo in ages
05:44.33arrrghhhso no sms?
05:44.59WisTilt2no not right away.  want to see if a call triggers it before any data happens
05:45.05arrrghhhjust boot, test sleep, phone call, test sleep?
05:45.09WisTilt2yes
05:45.11arrrghhhhrm
05:45.15arrrghhhdata comes up pretty quick
05:45.18arrrghhhon boot
05:45.31WisTilt2then if it still works try data, text actually
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05:45.44arrrghhhwb
05:45.51rpierce99damn wifi
05:48.13WisTilt2i doubt reboots into winmo is a kernel problem, probably some app or maybe some with oc too high.  are more happening with this kernel with jonpry battery code in it or has it been happening prior?
05:48.13arrrghhhok, took a little bit to work off the beginning of the boot shakes
05:48.45arrrghhhWisTilt2, that's what i wanted to mention.  no clue what's causing it, klog still seems MIA... but people have definintely had increased reports of reboots to winmo.
05:48.49arrrghhhi haven't had any personally
05:48.57arrrghhhother than with the RIL setup, which i got frequently unfortunately...
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05:50.01WisTilt2klog will be missing for awhile so people will have to get dmesg's.
05:50.16arrrghhhcan't get that from reboots to winmo :P
05:50.19arrrghhhbut ok.
05:50.24arrrghhh30s sleep now
05:50.28arrrghhhafter making a phone call...
05:50.45arrrghhhi made the call gv-less so it shouldn't have used any data
05:50.56arrrghhhbut data is up and being used.  but it's up and gets used a little bit on boot.
05:51.08arrrghhhwhich it was sleeping fine after
05:51.35WisTilt2looks at dmegs at the 1st 30s delay and see if its still powermanagerservice
05:52.36rpierce99yeah clocksync and other syncs will happen right away
05:52.50arrrghhhstupid notepad++
05:52.56arrrghhhdo you really need to update this frequently..
05:53.43WisTilt2update what frequently?
05:53.53arrrghhhnotepad++
05:54.10arrrghhhhas these plugin updates seemingly everytime i run the damned software.
05:54.44WisTilt2you must be in windows, i dont do windows do never have to deal with that alpha software:)
05:54.52arrrghhhheh
05:55.05arrrghhhi have to use it for work
05:55.13arrrghhhand other random things, but i don't use it frequently.
05:55.17arrrghhhwhen at home
05:55.32arrrghhhbut i'm on-call this month... bleh.
05:56.26WisTilt2whats your current battery level right now?
05:56.28arrrghhhhrm
05:56.50arrrghhhbefore i plugged in adb, 71%
05:56.59arrrghhhhrm
05:57.10arrrghhhbefore the phone call, i still see powermanagerservice as an active wake lock
05:57.34arrrghhhcan it change its wake lock timer?
05:57.34WisTilt2yes but is it holding sleep up for very long?
05:57.44arrrghhhno
05:57.52arrrghhhi see those wakelocks when i was getting the fast sleep
05:57.54arrrghhhwant to see this?
05:58.13arrrghhhhttp://pastebin.com/t7SqiWX7
05:58.50WisTilt2uh, build 242?
05:58.52arrrghhhright before the phone call it was sleeping fast
05:59.00arrrghhhthat's the last published kernel from you AFAIK, no?
05:59.09arrrghhhi wanted to see what people were talking about with the reboots to winmo :P
05:59.13WisTilt2oh yeah:) was thinking of the test one i sent you
05:59.19arrrghhhyea
05:59.21arrrghhh249
05:59.22arrrghhhi still have it
05:59.46arrrghhhi just wanted to make sure it wasn't the kernel for sure.  i wasn't getting any reboots to winmo
06:00.03WisTilt2and i see you have autobl on again:)
06:00.15arrrghhhyes sir ;)
06:04.26WisTilt2i have another theory on this 30s deal... its possible that since after a call, sound is turned on to play the end call beep and maybe powermanager cant shut down the dsp until it times out after 30s.
06:04.38arrrghhhhrm
06:04.58WisTilt2i wonder if you booted, played some sound, does it kill sleep
06:05.04arrrghhhhrm
06:05.06arrrghhhlet me reboot :D
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06:05.47WisTilt2although that is handled slightly different since no audio routing has to switch from incall back to the normal device but worth a try
06:05.47rpierce99in theory, just dialing and not calling would have the same affect
06:06.06arrrghhhdialing doesn't always generate sound for me
06:06.18WisTilt2dialing doesnt switch the audio route either
06:06.19arrrghhhfor example, it didn't on the last call i made... not sure what triggers that on/off
06:06.19rpierce99oh there's an option to turn it off
06:06.35arrrghhhorly?  i never change it, yet it seems to change lol
06:06.35rpierce99i turned mine off because it's really loud
06:07.24arrrghhhlol
06:07.25rpierce99Settings -> Sound -> Audible touch tones
06:07.43arrrghhhsettings.... of course
06:07.46arrrghhh:P lol thanks
06:10.10arrrghhhrpierce99, yup it's checked
06:10.27arrrghhhOo
06:10.33arrrghhhmedia vol was... let's say low.
06:10.41arrrghhhodd, i wonder if that's what it always is... d'oh
06:11.17arrrghhhWisTilt2, fast sleep after playing happy b-day on the dialpad
06:11.50arrrghhhholyfast sleep in fact.
06:11.53WisTilt2ok, now play a sound.  dtmf is done via arm9 i believe and doesnt use dsp
06:12.03arrrghhhok
06:13.17WisTilt2rpierce99, do you run autobl on all the time or manual?
06:13.28arrrghhhWisTilt2, still fast sleep :/
06:13.29rpierce99like a ringtone? or like an mp3?
06:13.29rpierce99i guess the ringtones probably are mp3s
06:13.45arrrghhhit was pandora, so i'd assume that would be a good qualifer for sound ;)
06:13.50WisTilt2ringtones are .ogg's
06:13.51rpierce99autobl unless it's a fresh build and i haven't finished configuring it yet
06:14.01arrrghhhdefault ringtones are ogg's
06:14.12WisTilt2ok arrrghhh, try this.  turn off autobl, make call and see if sleep changes
06:14.18arrrghhhrpierce99, lol me too.  and WisTilt2 always seems to catch my logs from a fresh build.
06:14.21arrrghhhWisTilt2, Oo ok
06:15.11arrrghhhlong sleep
06:15.43arrrghhhneed a second or third phone.  so one can always be rebooting
06:15.47arrrghhhjust cycle thru 'em lol
06:15.53WisTilt2yeah dont see how autobl in hw could change that
06:16.10arrrghhhyup, no effect.
06:17.20WisTilt2well i know its a powermanagerservice in userland holding it up, just need to keep digging to find what is changing its wake lock value.  i think its much more prevalent on cdma devices since i rarely see that
06:18.03arrrghhhyea
06:18.10arrrghhhand i can reproduce it on command, literallly.
06:18.21arrrghhhbut with phone calls cdma gets weird - as obviously data's gotta go.
06:18.22WisTilt2are there any testers that actually have a gsm phone besides randomblame, which we havent seen forever, and me?
06:18.31arrrghhhheh
06:18.32WisTilt2i guess 210's are also
06:18.35arrrghhhyea
06:18.39arrrghhhF22 is always in hurr
06:18.42arrrghhhbut rarely talking
06:18.49arrrghhhxirxes is too busy fondling his g2..
06:18.58arrrghhhhrm
06:19.09rpierce99Entropy512 rocks GSM
06:19.14arrrghhhindeed he does
06:19.22WisTilt2might have gsm users try that test and see if they get the same 30s change after 1st call.  looks like you guys get it first time always.
06:19.23arrrghhhand should be a great tester, as he actually knows what he's talking about
06:19.24arrrghhhlol
06:19.39arrrghhhWisTilt2, phone calls of any kind pretty much guarantee it.
06:19.45arrrghhhi wonder if a regular sms does as well
06:19.55WisTilt2yeah i'd be curious about that also
06:19.58arrrghhhi notice the data goes haywire when a regular txt is rec'd
06:20.06arrrghhhjust like when you make a call
06:20.20rpierce99you know what
06:21.13arrrghhhnot personally
06:23.38WisTilt2rpierce99 you know what <-- awaiting info:)
06:23.38rpierce99i'm having sleep issues immediately on this boot, turned it on and it's in E for data, 1x right? Making a call drops you down to that as well
06:23.51arrrghhhrpierce99, yup
06:23.51rpierce99i thought cdma couldn't roll voice + 3g simul?
06:23.57arrrghhh1xrtt = EDGE
06:24.05arrrghhhin android world
06:24.20arrrghhhwe don't really have data icons to represent us.  or... a RIL at the moment ;)
06:24.20rpierce99is our prox sensor still partially enabled? I know I saw some stuff about it in the logs, looking at the code for PMS it works with prox
06:24.20rpierce99next line is also me WisTilt2
06:24.22WisTilt2you mean at clean boot you are in edge and sleep is taking 30s right away?
06:24.26rpierce99yeah
06:24.35rpierce99not truly edge of course
06:24.52WisTilt2light bulb goes on:)
06:25.04arrrghhhrpierce99, sleep right after boot does sometimes take longer
06:25.07arrrghhhi wonder if i can force 2g
06:25.13arrrghhhthat option isn't always avail for some reason
06:25.16arrrghhhas Entropy512 found out :P
06:25.46arrrghhhyea, option grayed.
06:25.50arrrghhhhrm...
06:25.51arrrghhhEntropy512, !
06:25.53WisTilt2i took out proximity sensor code completely in last several kernels including the test one posted.
06:26.31arrrghhhlol now the option is available
06:26.32rpierce99arrrghhh: i'm still in 30s mode though, not boot time jitters
06:26.35arrrghhhlets see if it works
06:26.47arrrghhhrpierce99, are you 'stuck' in 2g?
06:26.53rpierce99no it's back in 3g now
06:27.07arrrghhhbut stuck in 30s sleep?
06:27.12arrrghhhinteresting.
06:27.14relaxedarrrghhh: what device are you guys working on?
06:27.19arrrghhhi can't seem to force 2g
06:27.22arrrghhhrelaxed, RHOD
06:28.08arrrghhhlol, the option for use only 2g is avail, but it does nothing and doesn't save itself.  oh well.
06:28.14arrrghhhlet's see... txt time
06:28.14WisTilt2it will stay that way no matter what once it gets there.  i think i know whats happening now.  thanks rpierce99, i should have a fix tomorrow night.  need to hit the sack now though, early meeting.
06:28.15rpierce99but it seems just having been in 2g temporarily screwed up my sleep, or it could be coincidental
06:28.40arrrghhhWisTilt2, awesome news.  shoot me an email if you want me to test :D
06:29.07WisTilt2i wont be on at all until tomorrow night. catch you guys then with another kernel.
06:29.08rpierce99sweet, I'm on fire tonight, help with root on nand, then help with sleep :)
06:29.14rpierce99nite
06:29.19arrrghhhg'nite
06:29.54WisTilt2if you see jonpry, tell him i need to talk to him about cpu voltage if he can get on tomorrow night.
06:29.57WisTilt2cya
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17:56.48MassStash[acl], man my dumbass still can't get past first boot splash
17:57.05MassStashideas for me work on?
17:57.40MassStashcurrently compile kernel "manually" not with script and then going to run just makexip and makenbh scripts to see if it's MY script....
17:58.03MassStashL_miller, any thoughts of what i may be doing ignorantly to get stuck at first boot splash?
17:59.30[acl]MassStash: i smell shenanigans bro
17:59.40[acl]i use those scripts. just make sure you sue them right
17:59.47[acl]"makexip rhod"
17:59.53[acl]"makenbh rhod"
17:59.55[acl]bamn
17:59.57[acl]thats it
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18:04.05Cotullahey
18:04.51MassStashhmmmmmm
18:06.15MassStashnot sh makexip.sh rhod 400
18:06.24[acl]nope
18:06.33[acl]u need therapy bro
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18:06.42MassStashman, sign me the fuk up
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18:06.48MassStashlol
18:07.01[acl]ive been getting some help myself
18:07.13arrrghhhMassStash, i don't see what's wrong with the autobuild junk?
18:07.15arrrghhhworks for me.
18:07.58MassStashbut errr, my massbuild script is the same shit that's in the git xip n nbh scripts, so thus my perplextion in the first place
18:08.09MassStasharrrghhh, "auto"build....
18:08.13MassStashgay
18:08.38MassStash+ i like-a-da home key on end, power = power, endcall=backmuter yada yada
18:09.04MassStashplus, it says it's mine then that way, ultra nerd lol :)
18:09.10arrrghhhoy
18:09.14MassStashnot to mention knowledge
18:09.22arrrghhhi'm just waiting for stuff to settle on the keymaps
18:09.30MassStashmight be able to shut some of those up that annoy you so much ya kno>? haha
18:09.37arrrghhhlol ok...
18:09.41MassStashme impatient as a mutha fuka
18:09.44arrrghhhwhatever helps you sleep at night i guess.
18:09.45[acl]MassStash: let it all out.. woosaaa
18:09.52[acl]MassStash: wooosaaa
18:09.55arrrghhhMassStash, then figure it out yourself?
18:10.08arrrghhhcan't keep buggin [acl] for what's wrong dude.
18:10.12arrrghhhman needs to work :D
18:10.27[acl]arrrghhh: trying to not get fired right now :-p
18:11.22arrrghhhseriously :P
18:11.58MassStashmang, i barely ask him shit homie
18:12.17[acl]fuk gotta go.. boss is being a penis face
18:12.29arrrghhhOo
18:12.35MassStashlol, he crwazy anyway
18:12.47MassStashwhats new wit you arrrghhh?
18:12.49arrrghhhMassStash, lol every time i come in here you're bugging him about why you can't roll your own.
18:12.51arrrghhhmeh
18:12.57arrrghhhnothin
18:13.15MassStashread that shit in one of those forums bout you hatin on doods n him tweakin on you
18:13.16MassStashlol
18:13.22MassStashentertaining stuff bro
18:13.56MassStashforget which one exactly.... but he was going off bout you drivin niggas away from the community
18:14.18arrrghhhmeh
18:14.21arrrghhhthere was several
18:14.30arrrghhhuhm... i think he said i'm driving devs away
18:14.31arrrghhhbut ok.
18:15.22MassStashnah, people asking Q's
18:15.47arrrghhhk?
18:15.52arrrghhhi don't really care about trolls.
18:17.03MassStashyeeeaaaaa
18:17.13Cotulla:D
18:17.47MassStashidk, ya could be a lil more "warm" tho mang come on now
18:17.53MassStashhahahaha
18:17.59MassStashwaz good Cotulla
18:18.15arrrghhhyou're kidding, right?
18:18.38MassStashyea brudda
18:18.43Cotullatrolls?
18:18.55arrrghhhgood.  i hoped you were kidding.
18:19.02Cotullaanyway u should care about professional trolls
18:19.19arrrghhhCotulla, yea, couple of my threads were attacked by some very unprofessional trolls
18:19.25arrrghhhwhy should i care about the professionals?
18:19.26Cotullait's too danger to touch them for brain
18:19.29arrrghhhthere's people paid to troll?
18:19.42Cotullathey slowly eating brains
18:21.05arrrghhhlol
18:21.06arrrghhhzooooombie
18:22.59Cotullahow rho development?
18:25.41arrrghhhyou tell me
18:25.46arrrghhhmister man
18:25.55Cotullahaha
18:26.04CotullaI am making pm in .32
18:26.06Cotulla:(
18:26.12arrrghhhwha?
18:26.28arrrghhhyou haven't seen wistilt2's new pm code have you...
18:26.29Cotulladecrease drain current
18:26.35arrrghhhi wish he would commit that.
18:26.38Cotullaohh? I was missing few days
18:26.42arrrghhhhe rewrote PM in .27, supposedly much better.
18:26.46arrrghhhCotulla, he hasn't committed...
18:26.58Cotullau mean idle
18:27.00Cotullasleep?
18:27.24arrrghhhsleep
18:27.25arrrghhhyes
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18:36.33fakker.18:17. ? Cotulla anyway u should care about professional trolls
18:36.35fakkeri think you mean ME
18:36.40fakkerprivet! poka
18:36.52Cotullayes like u
18:36.57fakkerprofessional
18:37.07arrrghhhyou get paid to troll?
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18:37.12Willd'course
18:37.12fakkeryeah
18:37.12Cotullano
18:37.16WilldDamn windows evangelists!
18:37.26arrrghhhno u
18:37.28Cotullawtf Willd trolls
18:37.31fakkerim going spb
18:37.33fakkerfriday
18:37.35arrrghhhyea, samsung trolls
18:37.37fakkerar eyou ready for me?
18:37.39Willdarrrghhh: :D
18:37.44arrrghhh:P
18:37.46Cotullago out blue troll
18:37.53arrrghhhlol
18:37.58Cotulla:D
18:38.07fakkerno, really i am
18:38.07fakker:D
18:38.18fakkerfri-mon
18:38.21Cotullamaybe u bot
18:38.26Cotullawho knows
18:38.33fakkeri will pillage your town
18:38.37fakker:D
18:38.40fakkerpillage your village
18:38.56Cotullano village here
18:39.02Willdfakker: rape the women?
18:39.08Cotullaas well no bears
18:39.09fakkerWilld, essentially what i was saying yeah :D
18:39.14fakkerhow about wolves?
18:39.18fakkerwith 5 legs from nuclear
18:39.19Cotullano\
18:39.21fakker:(
18:39.21WilldIce bears!
18:39.28arrrghhhlol 5 legs
18:39.30arrrghhh3 eyes
18:39.39Cotullacyclops rulezzz
18:39.40arrrghhhblinky the bear
18:39.42fakkerthey are not geneticly modified, but they are "changed"
18:39.44fakkerlol, cyclops
18:39.54fakkeri saw it on documentary
18:39.58Cotullathey have high range of damage
18:40.04fakkerthey live in apartment blocks
18:40.09fakkerabandon ones
18:44.09Jhinta? is there anything like video pastbin?
18:44.17Willdyoutube?
18:45.09Jhintaya , know that one , but like pastbin nog login just upload and temp link for a hour orso
18:45.36WilldI see no reason for it?
18:46.21Jhintano log in no managing no deletion just temp :S thats my reason
18:47.02WilldIf you want to, make it :)
18:47.29Jhintatrue
18:47.47Cotullahehe
18:48.24WilldJhinta: Make it anonymous, so every jihadist can upload videos :p
18:49.00Jhintalol even if i make on would be smart like 2mb max 320x280 30min max
18:49.24WilldJhinta: That's prolly what they can record :D
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18:52.04arrrghhhWilld, this channel is logged...
18:52.08Jhintana , was just thing why is there not somthing like that , and what you say is trou but for showing error like 1min its kinda handy
18:52.38Willdarrrghhh: Your point being? :)
18:52.43fakkerheh ok, here''s a dumb question (maybe)
18:53.05fakkeris there any way to share the gps from the phone? eg, turn it into one of those bluetooth gps devices?
18:53.07arrrghhhWilld, that is my point, son.
18:53.26arrrghhhfakker, over wifi i think there's some mad way to do it
18:53.32arrrghhhassuming the other device supports it
18:53.36fakkerhmm
18:53.39Willdarrrghhh: I don't get it!
18:53.41arrrghhhi think i read about tools using their ipads to do eeeet
18:53.51Cotullabita?
18:53.56fakkeri want the gps from phone > vega/gtab
18:54.01arrrghhhWilld, what's not to get, the channel is logged
18:54.15fakkeri thought it could have been a simple thing
18:54.26arrrghhhnothing is simple
18:54.27Willdarrrghhh: Of course, but how does that matter to me?
18:54.30fakker3) Added support for Xbox 360 PAD (wired or wireless with pc adaptor)
18:54.32fakker:D
18:54.41fakkervega
18:55.05arrrghhhwhy would you want gps on your 360?  lol
18:55.11fakkerno no
18:55.20fakkerfrom my phone, share to the tablet
18:55.27fakkerthe tablet supports 360 controller
18:55.32fakkerwith that kernel
18:55.34Willdarrrghhh: Answer me >:(
18:57.35fakkerhttp://androgeoid.com/2010/10/using-your-android-phone-as-a-bluetooth-gps-transmitter/
18:57.35fakkerheh
18:58.13Cotullahah
18:58.23fakkerawesome
18:58.30fakkerim gonna put my tablet in my car i think
18:58.34fakkerso i can be like a lamborghini
18:58.38Cotulla:D
18:58.41fakkerand get robbed at the same time
18:58.44fakker:D
19:03.48arrrghhhlol
19:10.12fakkerawesome it fucking works
19:10.14fakkerthanks guys! :D
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22:54.19MN--markinus how the new kernel going
23:01.48arrrghhhstill buggin those devs eh MN-- ?
23:03.16MN--yeah
23:03.36arrrghhhguess you haven't learned by now that'll get you nowheres.
23:04.18MN--:)
23:05.11arrrghhhapt kill MN--
23:05.12aptACTION shoots a magneto-ionized pseudoneutrino gun at MN--
23:05.34MN--yet im still alive
23:05.59arrrghhhfawk.
23:06.07arrrghhhneed a stronger pseudoneutrino gun
23:06.16arrrghhhno wonder, pseudoneutrino... lame.
23:06.25arrrghhhseriously tho, quit bugging devs.  it's not appreciated.
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23:09.36MN---.-
23:11.21arrrghhhyou can make that face all you want
23:11.27arrrghhhdoesn't change the fact that you're nagging.
23:11.30arrrghhhyou nagger
23:11.40arrrghhhlol, racism.  anyhoo
23:12.43DuperManwow. racism and not from rajko. take it to the chat
23:13.39arrrghhhDuperMan, did you now follow that convo?
23:13.49arrrghhhi'm done.  not chatting.
23:14.00fakkernagger
23:14.18arrrghhhlol
23:14.26arrrghhhdamnit, stfu fakker  :P
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