| 00:00.21 | Cotulla | only one big effort possible == all real developers should heavy protect there creatures... |
| 00:00.34 | Cotulla | but ofcourse I guess it's not possible for android |
| 00:00.47 | gauner1986 | android has a poor copy protection system |
| 00:01.04 | Cotulla | noone stops to make better |
| 00:01.10 | Cotulla | two presses of my hand |
| 00:01.13 | gauner1986 | just grab an apk from another phone's /data/app/ dir and you're done |
| 00:01.17 | ali1234 | even warez has The Standard: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Standard_(warez) |
| 00:01.41 | Cotulla | and I can got new EXT2 filesystem which protects files |
| 00:02.20 | Cotulla | also set right rights/owners |
| 00:02.30 | Cotulla | so it will be impossible to grab any files from it |
| 00:02.48 | ali1234 | heh, good luck with that... |
| 00:02.53 | gauner1986 | hm |
| 00:02.57 | Cotulla | it's my suggestions for dcordes |
| 00:03.06 | gauner1986 | if the phone is rooted that won't help i guess |
| 00:03.10 | Cotulla | I plan to make my build totally free |
| 00:03.49 | gauner1986 | developers become even bigger heroes if they provide there things free it seems :P |
| 00:04.14 | Cotulla | no, because I have other targets |
| 00:04.27 | Cotulla | I guess I won't update it in feature, so better to provide it as open |
| 00:04.33 | Cotulla | *future |
| 00:05.08 | gauner1986 | hm.. yeah. but that won't be necessary mostly i guess if all things are done |
| 00:05.15 | Cotulla | it's not possible to fix dcordes's problem by only words in forum IMHO. |
| 00:06.00 | Cotulla | gauner1986, how lights? |
| 00:06.06 | Cotulla | I suggest to u make logs |
| 00:06.13 | Cotulla | and write code |
| 00:06.34 | ali1234 | it won't ever be possible to fix it completely |
| 00:06.45 | Cotulla | yes won't be fix it completely |
| 00:07.03 | ali1234 | i mean look at the proliferation of ubuntu clones that are just a rootfs image built from ubuntu packages, with slightly edited config files and a new theme |
| 00:07.35 | Cotulla | and is it bad? |
| 00:07.37 | gauner1986 | cotulla: i'm on it.. i'll write a lib that just logs now for the first part |
| 00:07.43 | Cotulla | GPL allow it, right? |
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| 00:07.52 | ali1234 | yes it's bad... first time you try to upgrade they normally fall over |
| 00:08.00 | ali1234 | you are dependent on the one guy who made it for support |
| 00:08.13 | ali1234 | but few people use them because there are better alternatives |
| 00:09.16 | ali1234 | they are skirting the GPL because they just install ubuntu, change the theme, then distribute a copy of their rootfs |
| 00:09.57 | ali1234 | this is a really crappy way to do it, and people have mostly stopped because there is now a better way to do it |
| 00:10.09 | gauner1986 | btw.. where does the LOGV function write to? |
| 00:10.36 | ali1234 | a lot of people made these things back when netbooks first came out |
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| 00:10.51 | Cotulla | shit back |
| 00:11.02 | gauner1986 | cotulla: where does the LOGV function write to.. do you know? |
| 00:11.09 | Cotulla | adb logcat |
| 00:11.11 | gauner1986 | ok |
| 00:11.44 | Cotulla | ali1234, so actually it's common GPL problem |
| 00:12.01 | dcordes | ali1234: problem is I can hardly add the hd2 specific programs upstream in ubuntu now that canonical has contracts with some ARM hardware manufacturers |
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| 00:12.22 | dcordes | ali1234: they will tell you 'sorry, qualcomm platform is not officially supported' |
| 00:12.35 | ali1234 | why do you need hw specific binaries? |
| 00:12.45 | dcordes | ali1234: I don't |
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| 00:13.01 | ali1234 | so what's the problem? |
| 00:13.48 | dcordes | about providing ready to go rootfs ? |
| 00:13.48 | drellisdee | its there any easy way to determine a devices kernel base address? |
| 00:13.48 | ali1234 | if they are GPL you can go right around ubuntu and put them in debian |
| 00:13.50 | dcordes | true |
| 00:13.52 | ali1234 | dcordes: the problem isn;t about providing a rootfs, the problem is with how you build it |
| 00:14.03 | ali1234 | not how *you* specifically build |
| 00:14.12 | ali1234 | but how "one" builds it |
| 00:14.17 | dcordes | ali1234: the ubuntu.zip I provide doesn't have any extra binaries. it is about configuration and bash scripts. |
| 00:14.33 | dcordes | ali1234: I could create a script ot install it all |
| 00:14.39 | dcordes | ali1234: it's a good idea |
| 00:14.50 | Cotulla | what about making money on GPL code? |
| 00:14.53 | Cotulla | big money? |
| 00:14.55 | ali1234 | dcordes: so all what you need to do is make a deb out of all your scripts, then provide a modified rootstock that pulls that deb from your repo along with all the normal stuff |
| 00:15.05 | ali1234 | dcordes: then anyone is free to modify it how they like |
| 00:15.09 | dcordes | that would be awesome |
| 00:15.40 | ali1234 | making a deb repo is pretty easy, actually packaging up a deb is slightly harder in fact |
| 00:15.40 | dcordes | one major problem I have to work around is that non root users can't use network |
| 00:15.55 | ali1234 | that's a little bit odd |
| 00:15.55 | dcordes | I will look into that |
| 00:16.13 | dcordes | ali1234: it is in all ubuntu rootfs I tried |
| 00:16.30 | dcordes | ali1234: and I suspect it is kernel related |
| 00:16.30 | ali1234 | for what reason doesn't it work? |
| 00:16.31 | darkstone | [00:51:03] <dcordes> maricsmith: the problem is not making process but the fact that every idiot wants to distribute their own 'build'. nobody compiles the kernel or userspace(android) |
| 00:16.42 | darkstone | I don't appreciate being called an 'idiot'. I compile my own kernels, but there is no point including them since updates aren't updated on GIT until a long time later. |
| 00:16.43 | dcordes | ali1234: I have no clue really.. |
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| 00:17.19 | darkstone | How can I use the latest changes if it's not available to build? |
| 00:17.28 | ali1234 | darkstone: but you actually hang around here and contribute. a lot of people don't, then their users show up here and expect support |
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| 00:17.56 | Cotulla | anyway I think if this problem will be fixed on XDA, ppl start to release builds on other sites... |
| 00:17.58 | ali1234 | and everyone is like "sorry we never even heard of that build :(" |
| 00:18.03 | darkstone | I'd actually like dcordes to answer, he seems to have an icy attitude |
| 00:18.07 | Cotulla | so words on XDA is useless |
| 00:18.20 | dcordes | darkstone: if you understand yourself as the attorney of the android rom cooking lobby you should try to address these problems instead of trying to start a fight |
| 00:18.49 | darkstone | attorney of android rom cooking? i did not appoint myself for this position. |
| 00:19.07 | dcordes | darkstone: you said you were called idiot. |
| 00:19.34 | darkstone | <dcordes> maricsmith: the problem is not making process but the fact that every idiot wants to distribute their own 'build'. nobody compiles the kernel or userspace(android) |
| 00:19.58 | darkstone | not sure if you meant this in another context |
| 00:20.01 | darkstone | or if i misunderstoof |
| 00:20.06 | darkstone | understood* |
| 00:20.33 | stelleg | anyone have linky to miri 2.10 base? |
| 00:20.34 | darkstone | i'll make it clear, i have no problems adhering to standards, let me know what needs changing and i'll be happy to oblige |
| 00:20.39 | dcordes | darkstone: I did not say darkstone is an idiot and I did not say everybody who releases an 'android build' is an idiot. |
| 00:20.49 | stelleg | seems like all I can find is newest 2.13 base |
| 00:21.08 | dcordes | darkstone: but obviously you still feel called upon. |
| 00:21.24 | Cotulla | it's common open source problems, why we should discuss it in android context? |
| 00:21.36 | dcordes | darkstone: either way I don't want to get pulled in this discussion |
| 00:21.57 | ali1234 | darkstone raises an interesting point. who is putting out binary kernels without a matching git commit somewhere public? |
| 00:22.19 | darkstone | fair enough, im not looking for a fight, im just looking for a way for not to see the things i do being frowned upon |
| 00:23.24 | Cotulla | ali1234, me |
| 00:23.32 | dcordes | darkstone: so you do feel like representing the android cooking crowd. |
| 00:24.27 | darkstone | seems so |
| 00:25.12 | dcordes | darkstone: I have seen you compiling your own kernel. it is a good step |
| 00:25.25 | darkstone | i apologize for attacking you like that, was a natural instinct to defend the stuff that i distribute |
| 00:25.40 | ali1234 | Cotulla: why do it? |
| 00:25.41 | Cotulla | dcordes, why u don't want to blame with HTC about closed libhtc_ril? why u start to blame ppl who do at least something? |
| 00:26.11 | darkstone | i'll return to studying, back later |
| 00:26.19 | Cotulla | ali1234, it's easy for me do developing so. |
| 00:26.40 | Cotulla | more effectively |
| 00:27.15 | dcordes | and it is also effectively contributing to the problematic situation we discuss |
| 00:27.18 | gauner1986 | cotulla: we could also create a repo for you, where you could just commit your stuff without caring about other stuff |
| 00:27.43 | Cotulla | anyway htc delay releases a lot, isn't it? |
| 00:27.46 | gauner1986 | which would allow us to integrate your changes into public git on time |
| 00:27.49 | Cotulla | go and blame about it with them... |
| 00:28.30 | gauner1986 | let's see how to get that liblights to compile... ^^ |
| 00:28.56 | ali1234 | might be an idea to have a nightly build of the "official" linuxtogo repo? people would use it cos they'd think it was "newer" - instead of an untested and not-for-wide-reelase development kernel binary they found somewhere |
| 00:29.14 | ali1234 | i'm just trying to come up with constructive suggestions here :) |
| 00:29.22 | dcordes | ali1234: http://oe.netripper.com/files/htcleo_autobuild/ |
| 00:29.54 | gauner1986 | that's what people won't use if they know that cotulla has some more recent and sexy changes in his current kernel |
| 00:29.55 | ali1234 | dcordes: hmm ok, so a) turn on /proc/config and b) make sure people know you'd prefer them to use that (and document what they use) |
| 00:30.02 | dcordes | ali1234: the problem is what you see above. cotulla is making most of the essential progress on the leo - but with delayed release of sources. |
| 00:30.07 | dcordes | ali1234: no autobuild will help,. |
| 00:30.35 | ali1234 | and under NO circumstances give support to people who use anything else :) |
| 00:30.37 | gauner1986 | dcordes: wouldn't you also think a separate repo could be a solution? |
| 00:30.42 | dcordes | ali1234: in case of the zImage people use it will show some commit from begin of july |
| 00:31.04 | gauner1986 | i suggested it some time ago |
| 00:31.48 | Cotulla | but they want to support a bunch of shit |
| 00:32.15 | Cotulla | tell me what is "board-halibut.c "? |
| 00:32.23 | dcordes | ali1234: I don't do that (support any binary release) |
| 00:32.38 | dcordes | Cotulla: halibut is 7k evaulation board |
| 00:32.41 | ali1234 | dcordes: but you could make it policy that nobody here should |
| 00:32.54 | Cotulla | and WTF it should be there, with only one HTC 8K device with WM> |
| 00:32.56 | Cotulla | ? |
| 00:34.25 | stelleg | Cotulla: is there anything you'd like help developing/hacking? |
| 00:34.26 | dcordes | ali1234: I think it's pretty obvious that this project is not about passing around binary kernel images |
| 00:34.45 | Cotulla | help? |
| 00:34.51 | Cotulla | u can check and fix time |
| 00:34.56 | dcordes | Cotulla: I don't get the question |
| 00:35.10 | Cotulla | u can finish lsensor |
| 00:35.11 | stelleg | time is broken? |
| 00:35.12 | dcordes | stelleg: yes RTC would be nice |
| 00:35.25 | gauner1986 | lightsensor |
| 00:35.26 | gauner1986 | yeah |
| 00:35.29 | gauner1986 | that would be neat |
| 00:35.30 | stelleg | yeah alright |
| 00:35.34 | stelleg | yeah that would be good |
| 00:35.45 | stelleg | any info on it? |
| 00:35.48 | dcordes | ali1234: it woukd be good to have XDA draw attention on the matter. |
| 00:35.49 | stelleg | gpio pins? |
| 00:36.03 | Cotulla | dcordes, I ask to u several questions, but u ignore them. nice! |
| 00:36.09 | gauner1986 | there's some half-code in git @ stelleg |
| 00:36.15 | gauner1986 | that's all we have atm i guess |
| 00:36.17 | stelleg | alright |
| 00:36.22 | dcordes | ali1234: but I do not see their interest. less warez = less traffic = less ad money |
| 00:36.22 | Cotulla | gauner1986, there nothing however |
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| 00:36.37 | Cotulla | LSensor working via MicroP |
| 00:36.47 | dcordes | Cotulla: relax. what did I ignore ? |
| 00:37.29 | Cotulla | why u don't want to blame with HTC about libril_htc? but start blame of XDA users? I guess blame with HTC is more useful, isn't it? |
| 00:38.23 | dcordes | Cotulla: ah yes I am an evil bastard getting down bad on xda users... right# |
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| 00:38.46 | ali1234 | i assume there are not 101 different libril_htc versions floating around causing confusion? |
| 00:39.01 | ali1234 | it can be considered to be like a binary blob like any other |
| 00:39.02 | dcordes | Cotulla: I am with ali. I don't see a problem with that |
| 00:39.19 | Cotulla | maybe my words not very right, because I dunno how to say... "attack xda users" maybe more right... anyway I am sure u understand that I mean. |
| 00:39.20 | dcordes | Cotulla: and I do not see how this relates to binary kernel distribution |
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| 00:40.01 | dcordes | also regarding phone API I think it is a legal question |
| 00:40.18 | ali1234 | if necessary just supply a firmware cutter |
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| 00:41.17 | Cotulla | and how binary kernel distribution related to my question? |
| 00:42.02 | dcordes | Cotulla: we were discussing the binary only kernel thing and it seemed you mentioned ril in that context- |
| 00:42.12 | Cotulla | yes |
| 00:42.46 | Cotulla | wait... we start to discuss here about "wrong android builders behaviour" |
| 00:42.52 | dcordes | yes |
| 00:43.10 | dcordes | one problem is the binary kernels included |
| 00:43.22 | dcordes | with no source made available |
| 00:43.41 | Cotulla | ok, if I include binary static library under Apache license, u will be more happy? |
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| 00:44.09 | dcordes | Cotulla: why do you see the need to measure with HTC / google behaviour ? |
| 00:44.38 | stinebd | this seems like a simple licensing violation |
| 00:44.48 | stinebd | nothing more |
| 00:44.48 | Cotulla | no, GPL is compatible with Apache |
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| 00:45.20 | stinebd | huh? |
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| 00:45.28 | Cotulla | is it? |
| 00:45.59 | stinebd | if we're talking about the kernel, apache license has no relevance anyway |
| 00:46.06 | dcordes | Cotulla: I do not understand you. are you justifying binary kernel release with the fact that htc ril is closed ? |
| 00:46.13 | Cotulla | no |
| 00:46.31 | stinebd | if you modify the linux kernel and distribute binaries, you *must* make the modified source code available upon request |
| 00:46.35 | Cotulla | I just ask why u don't want to put ur energy for rebuilding xda to HTC? |
| 00:46.58 | Cotulla | is it will be more useful for all htc-linux community? |
| 00:47.14 | dcordes | Cotulla: can you restate? what do you mean rebuilding xda to htc ? |
| 00:47.51 | Cotulla | yes, my english bad :( |
| 00:48.04 | dcordes | I really didn't understand it sorry |
| 00:48.19 | ali1234 | dcordes: he means that you should ask htc to be more open instead of asking xda users ... i think |
| 00:48.48 | dcordes | that would possibly the best way to address the problem |
| 00:48.49 | Cotulla | rebuilding xda - add some rules for releasing android builds. even it's clear that it's impossible by words do so,something. even if it possible on xda, ppl will go to other forums. |
| 00:49.11 | dcordes | To have XDA monitor and forbid GPL violations. |
| 00:49.27 | Cotulla | maybe just put messages to such services? |
| 00:49.36 | ali1234 | i agree rules would be asking too much |
| 00:49.40 | stinebd | why not just make the source code available? |
| 00:49.43 | dcordes | Cotulla: I made an approach like that |
| 00:49.48 | Cotulla | to htc - put all energy to htc, so we get more |
| 00:50.03 | Cotulla | and able to get high quality android / linux on our devices |
| 00:50.09 | dcordes | ali1234: yes it's not going to happen |
| 00:50.16 | ali1234 | but is it so hard to ask people, if they are going to build a rom, at least mark it with which versions they used? |
| 00:50.17 | stinebd | htc doesn't really have anything to do with it since their stuff isn't gpl licensed anyway |
| 00:50.26 | Cotulla | people even can't read HSPL installation |
| 00:50.33 | Cotulla | what about android rules? |
| 00:51.00 | ali1234 | you have to credit rom cookers with at least slightly more intelligence than the people who use the product :) |
| 00:51.10 | Cotulla | stinebd, it's not problem. I released my tree some days ago. |
| 00:51.12 | dcordes | Cotulla: what about the developers serve as a role model for 'cooks' |
| 00:51.23 | stinebd | then what's the gpl violation we're arguing about? |
| 00:51.43 | Cass | what is the problem ? |
| 00:51.51 | Cass | confused .. |
| 00:51.55 | dcordes | Cotulla: but before it was a problem |
| 00:51.58 | ali1234 | stinebd: when people grab a binary kernel and another android rom, uunpack it, change some things, then post it on xda |
| 00:52.02 | Cotulla | dcordes, I usually protects WM roms with heavy algos |
| 00:52.12 | stinebd | changing binary kernels? |
| 00:52.13 | Cotulla | it's save it from stealing any features |
| 00:52.21 | dcordes | Cotulla: and I see zImage-new-feature-without-source happening again |
| 00:52.26 | ali1234 | stinebd: without even saying *which* versions they used |
| 00:52.36 | Cotulla | it's only one possible way to stop this behaviour |
| 00:52.38 | dcordes | Cotulla: well yes but this is not WM roms. |
| 00:52.42 | Cotulla | yes. |
| 00:52.56 | ali1234 | stinebd: no, changing the android rootfs a bit eg add or remove sense. i guess that's the kind of thing they do... i dunno... i never used that stuff |
| 00:52.59 | gauner1986 | cotulla: you made wm roms? ^^ |
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| 00:53.07 | Cotulla | a lot of |
| 00:53.30 | stinebd | hah, well. those are general license/copyright violations, not really source violations |
| 00:53.32 | Cotulla | dcordes, I didn't release any zImage after tree release |
| 00:53.41 | dcordes | Cotulla: yes a good thing |
| 00:54.11 | gauner1986 | actually it would be nice to see cotulla releasing patches :) |
| 00:54.15 | Cotulla | because it's useful |
| 00:54.20 | dcordes | Cotulla: in an ideal world you get your own ssh access to git repository |
| 00:54.26 | Cotulla | no testers, no good feedback |
| 00:54.27 | dcordes | Cotulla: and use it |
| 00:54.52 | stinebd | the beauty of git is you can start your own |
| 00:55.10 | stinebd | branch away and break things at will |
| 00:55.38 | Cass | tbh i dont see the issue with Cotulla developing how he likes, then releasing a patch when he is happy ... apart from the work the integrator has to do ... i dont see how a diff git repo would resolve this |
| 00:55.40 | Cotulla | dcordes, yes asked u some time ago, but u say that all should be in htc-msm-2.6.32 |
| 00:55.59 | Cotulla | btw results is it still broken? |
| 00:56.08 | dcordes | Cotulla: yep but I didn't say you shouldn't do what stinebd said |
| 00:56.21 | dcordes | Cotulla: create your own repo |
| 00:56.24 | Cotulla | I just don't understand how I can make changes in common, I need rebuilt it for other devs everytime? |
| 00:56.37 | dcordes | Cotulla: now it's not a topic any longer |
| 00:56.38 | Cotulla | and then find somebody with such devs and test it? |
| 00:56.40 | gauner1986 | yeah cotulla should have his own repo :) |
| 00:56.47 | dcordes | Cotulla: htc-msm-2.6.32 is leo only |
| 00:57.00 | Cass | Cotulla : should do wtf he likes gauner1986 :) |
| 00:57.04 | Cotulla | but it was not |
| 00:57.18 | gauner1986 | hey cass :P |
| 00:57.23 | Cass | hey :) |
| 00:57.30 | ali1234 | why do you even have branches for each board type? |
| 00:57.35 | ali1234 | or repos? |
| 00:57.39 | Cotulla | not for each |
| 00:57.43 | Cotulla | but for common groups |
| 00:57.57 | dcordes | Cotulla: a lot was hardcoded with the first merge of your local code. I think since then it's pointless to try compiling e.g. for mahimahi |
| 00:57.57 | ali1234 | ok, but nobody is merging that stuff into one tree? |
| 00:57.58 | Cotulla | tell me, what is common in board-halibut.c and in LEO? |
| 00:58.19 | Cotulla | it can be devided to groups |
| 00:58.26 | dcordes | Cotulla: not muchj halibut is 7k leo is 8k |
| 00:58.40 | ali1234 | what is common between x86 and ARM? yet mainline supports them both and many more |
| 00:58.50 | dcordes | ali1234: http://git.linuxtogo.org/?p=groups/mobile-linux/kernel.git;a=shortlog;h=refs/heads/htc-msm-2.6.32 |
| 00:58.53 | Cotulla | HTC 7200 WM devs, HTC 7200 Android devs, HTC 7200A WM devs, HTC 7200A Android devs, HTC 8650 WM devs, HTC 8650 Android devs |
| 00:59.01 | Cotulla | it's logical groups, isn't it? |
| 00:59.26 | ali1234 | not really, in my opinion |
| 00:59.30 | Cotulla | why? |
| 00:59.31 | gauner1986 | ah |
| 00:59.39 | gauner1986 | finally got that liblights to compile |
| 00:59.42 | ali1234 | there is only reason to split it on hardware type, not original OS |
| 00:59.43 | gauner1986 | fucking android buildsys |
| 00:59.46 | Cotulla | even drivers can be common, they not depended on dev type usually |
| 00:59.49 | dcordes | Cotulla: so if we create a clone htc-msm-2.6.32-cotulla would you be interested in using it ? |
| 01:00.06 | Cotulla | ali1234, different OSes have different memory layout and AMSS |
| 01:00.19 | Cotulla | so it can be looked like different HW |
| 01:00.43 | Cotulla | because some memory are already busy, some "emulated HW access" done different |
| 01:01.08 | ali1234 | AMSS is just a firmware though right? so why not just pick either WM or android amss and use it on all hardware of that type? |
| 01:01.14 | Cotulla | but u can't change it |
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| 01:01.24 | ali1234 | hmm. that sucks |
| 01:01.38 | Cotulla | "emualted HW access" - I means under this services from AMSS |
| 01:01.48 | ali1234 | you can't change it, or you just don't know how to change it? |
| 01:01.54 | Cotulla | which kernel use it almost as HW |
| 01:02.00 | ali1234 | i doubt it is embedded permanently into the soc |
| 01:02.07 | dcordes | ali1234: qualcomm AMSS is more than a modem firmware. |
| 01:02.08 | Cotulla | ali1234, I know how to change it. |
| 01:02.22 | Cotulla | but other seems don't know and even if know, can't do it |
| 01:02.33 | Cotulla | anyway it's just risky |
| 01:02.36 | Cotulla | u can kill dev |
| 01:03.21 | ali1234 | so you can't reset and reload another firmware at runtime? |
| 01:03.27 | dcordes | b |
| 01:03.27 | Cotulla | no |
| 01:03.39 | ali1234 | i'm glad i don't dev for qualcomm chips :/ |
| 01:03.42 | Cotulla | it's not OMAP850 |
| 01:03.44 | dcordes | Cotulla: it provides half the hardware .. |
| 01:03.53 | Cotulla | OMAP850 have two CPUs which are separately |
| 01:03.54 | dcordes | ali1234: |
| 01:04.01 | Cotulla | while MSM is dual core CPU |
| 01:04.28 | ali1234 | what's the difference? |
| 01:04.51 | Cotulla | there seems DSP between two CPUs |
| 01:04.54 | Cotulla | in OMAP850 |
| 01:05.06 | Cotulla | difference big ofcourse |
| 01:05.06 | dcordes | that AMSS is not just the firmware but is the 'OS' of the radio core |
| 01:05.15 | ali1234 | the same is true on OMAP850 |
| 01:05.21 | Cotulla | no |
| 01:05.26 | Cotulla | I tell u how OMAP850 working |
| 01:05.34 | ali1234 | go ahead :) |
| 01:05.40 | Cotulla | can u access on OMAP850 from ARM7 USB regs? |
| 01:05.45 | Cotulla | no |
| 01:05.49 | Cotulla | on MSM u can. |
| 01:05.50 | dcordes | where is the old msm7200 qualcomm marketing PDF ? |
| 01:05.53 | Cotulla | all memory is shared |
| 01:06.00 | Cotulla | devices is shared |
| 01:06.01 | ali1234 | actually you could if you remapped them with the MMU |
| 01:06.15 | Cotulla | "if u remapped" |
| 01:06.21 | dcordes | ali1234: http://www.ent.eet-china.com/PDF/2007FEB/DTCOL_2007FEB15_AVDE_RFR_AN_01.pdf page 4 |
| 01:06.23 | Cotulla | means u need config access from ARM9, right? |
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| 01:06.39 | ali1234 | right |
| 01:06.51 | Cotulla | in MSM all common, memory etc |
| 01:07.02 | Cotulla | ofcourse mARM can protect parts |
| 01:07.06 | Cotulla | from aARM access |
| 01:07.15 | dcordes | ali1234: hm it doesn't really explain the dual core concept. forget about it |
| 01:07.31 | dcordes | 'Modem MICRO ARM926 |
| 01:07.32 | dcordes | ' |
| 01:07.55 | Cotulla | and? |
| 01:07.57 | gauner1986 | cotulla: why are they splitting things up on arm9/arm11 ? |
| 01:08.08 | Cotulla | to make secure and support more platforms |
| 01:08.16 | gauner1986 | hm |
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| 01:08.21 | Cotulla | and make gsm stable |
| 01:08.53 | gauner1986 | *currently checking liblights output* |
| 01:09.41 | ali1234 | wait |
| 01:09.45 | Cotulla | dcordes, pdf briefs is useless |
| 01:09.51 | ali1234 | "means u need config access from ARM9, right?" what does that mean? |
| 01:10.00 | Cotulla | u need setup memory window and etc |
| 01:10.01 | Cotulla | ? |
| 01:10.04 | ali1234 | on omap850 arm9 is the app process |
| 01:10.08 | ali1234 | or |
| 01:10.33 | Cotulla | yes, I know it. |
| 01:10.52 | dcordes | Cotulla: yes I noticed it. I thought the diagram would expose the real division of a9 and a11 work |
| 01:10.58 | ali1234 | ok. so the arm9 has access to everything but the radio frontend on omap |
| 01:11.08 | Cotulla | yes |
| 01:11.43 | ali1234 | the radio firmware runs on the arm7 |
| 01:11.48 | Cotulla | yes |
| 01:11.55 | ali1234 | the arm9 can reset the arm7 at any time and load a new firmware |
| 01:11.57 | gauner1986 | cotulla: i don't see any output from my lib on logcat |
| 01:12.03 | Cotulla | in MSM marm still primary and aarm slave |
| 01:12.07 | Cotulla | but they use common busses |
| 01:12.14 | Cotulla | they can access common regs |
| 01:12.21 | Cotulla | marm have additional radio regs |
| 01:12.32 | Cotulla | they seems share interrupts |
| 01:12.48 | Cotulla | gauner1986, why? |
| 01:12.59 | ali1234 | same is true of omap850 for a subset of registers, memory, and interrupts |
| 01:13.32 | Cotulla | interrupts shared? |
| 01:13.42 | Cotulla | u can get USB intr on both 7/9? |
| 01:13.59 | ali1234 | hmm no |
| 01:14.05 | gauner1986 | cotulla: hm.. dunno. -> this is my src. i just put some LOGV's to the functions |
| 01:14.07 | gauner1986 | http://pastebin.com/0zCUB7CE |
| 01:14.15 | ali1234 | but either core can raise an interrupt on the other |
| 01:14.17 | Cotulla | gauner1986, is it loaded? |
| 01:14.36 | gauner1986 | cotulla: hm.. if setting lcd-backlight works it should be.. shouldn't it? |
| 01:14.41 | ali1234 | so, when you turn on an MSM, the modem core is the first thing that runs, and it loads the OS to the apps core? |
| 01:14.42 | Cotulla | yes should |
| 01:14.57 | Cotulla | but this isn't true dual core, also it's connected via something... which remap memory, right? |
| 01:15.15 | ali1234 | hmm yeah |
| 01:15.49 | Cotulla | adb logcat *:V |
| 01:15.53 | dcordes | Cotulla: how much mem does a9 claim in qsd8250 ? |
| 01:15.54 | Cotulla | try this? |
| 01:16.14 | Cotulla | about 35 mb |
| 01:16.44 | dcordes | and the dsp mem goes extra ? |
| 01:16.57 | Cotulla | yes |
| 01:17.28 | Cotulla | gauner1986, any luck? |
| 01:17.40 | gauner1986 | cotulla: not with your command |
| 01:17.50 | gauner1986 | hm |
| 01:17.57 | gauner1986 | can i somehow get the full log of logcat? |
| 01:18.18 | Cotulla | set_light_backlight color= |
| 01:18.20 | Cotulla | u got this? |
| 01:19.00 | gauner1986 | hm.. when i go to android settings and change it manually it should appear? |
| 01:19.07 | Cotulla | I think yes |
| 01:19.15 | gauner1986 | it doesn't |
| 01:19.38 | Cotulla | http://developer.android.com/intl/de/guide/developing/tools/adb.html |
| 01:19.42 | Cotulla | Filtering Log Output |
| 01:19.49 | dcordes | gauner1986: which android source code are you using ? |
| 01:20.35 | gauner1986 | dcordes: i used this guide to set up my devroot http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=709105 |
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| 01:21.55 | dcordes | gauner1986: ah I have seen this guide |
| 01:22.45 | dcordes | gauner1986: I am asking because I plan an autobuild system with a unified codebase everybody can use |
| 01:23.11 | Rafyvitto | Hey guys =] |
| 01:23.13 | dcordes | gauner1986: maybe aosp desire will be the best base |
| 01:23.16 | Rafyvitto | hows everyone |
| 01:23.17 | gauner1986 | dcordes: okay.. sounds nice. |
| 01:23.50 | gauner1986 | the problem is |
| 01:24.04 | gauner1986 | adb logcat V prints every message |
| 01:24.05 | Cotulla | dcordes, all this shit (google, codeaurora). actually seems only HTC sources can be reused normally. |
| 01:24.11 | gauner1986 | including the other priorities |
| 01:24.23 | dcordes | Cotulla: htc android sources ? |
| 01:24.30 | Cotulla | yes |
| 01:24.33 | Cotulla | which released on site |
| 01:24.50 | dcordes | developer.htc.com ? |
| 01:24.56 | Cotulla | yes something like this |
| 01:25.07 | dcordes | we could use that for autobuild as well .. |
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| 01:25.54 | Cotulla | u may say that it's again bullshit, but I tell it, looking to my leo kernel developing experience. |
| 01:26.26 | Cotulla | a lot of problems came because android-msm-2.6.32 was used as base |
| 01:26.29 | dcordes | Cotulla: I only see kernel, bluez, webkit source code on http://developer.htc.com/ . it has this link http://developer.android.com/index.html for android source code. |
| 01:26.48 | Cotulla | I about bravo kernel |
| 01:26.50 | Cotulla | evo kernel |
| 01:26.51 | Cotulla | and etc |
| 01:27.08 | dcordes | ok I am about android source code to use as a base for leo android autobuild |
| 01:27.33 | Cotulla | it's also not clear... |
| 01:27.49 | Cotulla | ppl start to make 22 even we have not finished 21 |
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| 01:28.00 | Cotulla | yes, 22 is faster |
| 01:28.21 | dcordes | android version ? |
| 01:28.24 | Cotulla | yes |
| 01:28.29 | Cotulla | but that they want - faster and buggy or slight slow and stable |
| 01:28.31 | Cotulla | ? |
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| 01:28.57 | dcordes | they want it all shiny with lots of eyecandy and bling bling and super fast |
| 01:29.04 | Cotulla | :D |
| 01:29.09 | dcordes | with 1GB mem patch |
| 01:29.20 | dcordes | .bin |
| 01:29.37 | Cotulla | anyway android cookers won't listen |
| 01:29.45 | gauner1986 | :D |
| 01:29.50 | Rafyvitto | and a perfectly stable android nand flash |
| 01:30.10 | Rafyvitto | that can be at the same time be dual booted along side wp7 |
| 01:30.30 | Cotulla | it won't be dual booted with wp7 |
| 01:30.42 | Rafyvitto | i know |
| 01:30.47 | dcordes | Cotulla: but there is jtag now :x |
| 01:30.52 | gauner1986 | cotulla: i got the whole log if logcat and there's nothing about lights |
| 01:30.53 | Rafyvitto | im just reffering to retarded nabs on xda |
| 01:31.01 | Cotulla | jtag? |
| 01:31.06 | gauner1986 | s/if/of/ |
| 01:31.23 | Cotulla | gauner1986, even backlight |
| 01:31.24 | dcordes | Cotulla: gnarf ? |
| 01:31.24 | Cotulla | ? |
| 01:31.38 | gauner1986 | cotulla: yeah.. nothing about backlight |
| 01:31.55 | Cotulla | how many users are familiar with jtag? |
| 01:32.05 | ali1234 | me |
| 01:32.12 | Cotulla | ok, on xda |
| 01:32.13 | ali1234 | wait, i'm not a user |
| 01:32.16 | gauner1986 | jtag sucks.. because you have to solder.. open your device |
| 01:32.16 | gauner1986 | :P |
| 01:32.36 | ali1234 | Cotulla: do you know any (free) jtag software that supports omap850? |
| 01:32.46 | Cotulla | OpenCOD? |
| 01:32.49 | Cotulla | or how it called? |
| 01:32.52 | dcordes | Cotulla: I don't really see how jtag will enable wp7 on leo |
| 01:33.00 | Cotulla | right. |
| 01:33.05 | Cotulla | anyway, 448 is rather small. |
| 01:33.08 | stelleg | wp7? |
| 01:33.16 | ali1234 | openocd... yeah it has generic arm support... never could figure out how to define new procs though... actually support for the NAND chip would be more important |
| 01:33.18 | dcordes | stelleg: the new wince version |
| 01:33.29 | gauner1986 | dcordes: jtag is just the way to reflash things if something goes wrong in that case, isn't it? |
| 01:33.35 | stelleg | what is wince? |
| 01:33.42 | gauner1986 | lol |
| 01:33.44 | Cotulla | ali1234, can't answer to u... because I have not JTAG experience\ |
| 01:33.45 | stelleg | <--noob' |
| 01:33.58 | dcordes | ~wince |
| 01:33.59 | apt | methinks wince is short for WinCE, but yes it does hurt. |
| 01:34.04 | [Hauk] | wp7 = windows phone 7 |
| 01:34.11 | stelleg | gotcha |
| 01:34.40 | gauner1986 | cotulla: the only thing about lights is : I/SystemServer( 242): Lights Service |
| 01:34.47 | Cotulla | hm |
| 01:34.51 | dcordes | wrong. wince is short for wINce |
| 01:34.52 | Cotulla | maybe put there printf? |
| 01:34.54 | Cotulla | :D |
| 01:34.57 | gauner1986 | :D |
| 01:35.03 | gauner1986 | and how do i read that then? |
| 01:35.04 | gauner1986 | ^^ |
| 01:35.05 | Cotulla | ok |
| 01:35.09 | Cotulla | fopen fprintf fclose |
| 01:35.14 | gauner1986 | lol |
| 01:35.18 | dcordes | is gonna take a nap |
| 01:35.23 | dcordes | cya guys |
| 01:35.27 | Cotulla | bb |
| 01:35.28 | gauner1986 | goodnight |
| 01:35.33 | stelleg | adios |
| 01:35.43 | [Hauk] | cya |
| 01:37.34 | Cotulla | so any luck, gauner1986? |
| 01:37.48 | gauner1986 | hm. didn't find anything on logs.. |
| 01:37.52 | gauner1986 | so i will have to write it to file |
| 01:37.55 | gauner1986 | it seems |
| 01:38.18 | gauner1986 | i did a reboot first of course.. |
| 01:39.04 | Cotulla | also funny thing, that ppl don't want work on any boring things... they want to half activate 4D, show it and go out to next item. |
| 01:39.46 | gauner1986 | the nature of human beings |
| 01:39.47 | gauner1986 | :P |
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| 01:41.02 | gauner1986 | hm |
| 01:41.09 | gauner1986 | i have to check how to write to file in c again |
| 01:41.10 | gauner1986 | :D |
| 01:41.53 | zego | gauner1986: try to use LOGD( |
| 01:42.07 | Cotulla | or why not to attack qualcomm about "GPL code working with non-compatible license code" |
| 01:42.27 | gauner1986 | zego: mhm.. okay |
| 01:43.01 | stelleg | is the only closed binary the bcm4329? |
| 01:43.07 | gauner1986 | no |
| 01:43.11 | Cotulla | it's not closed |
| 01:43.12 | gauner1986 | ril is closed |
| 01:43.27 | Cotulla | ril akd |
| 01:43.49 | stelleg | oh |
| 01:43.58 | Cotulla | it's talk about nothing... |
| 01:44.17 | stinebd | pretty sure android isn't gpl |
| 01:44.33 | Cotulla | but why it's working with GPL code? |
| 01:44.56 | Cotulla | and why google make money on gpl code |
| 01:45.05 | stinebd | uh, who said you can't make money on gpl code? |
| 01:45.19 | Cotulla | and even they stop way to update |
| 01:45.34 | stinebd | none of that violates the licenses involved... |
| 01:45.35 | Cotulla | so I have GPL code used in product, but I can't modify it, right? |
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| 01:45.49 | Cotulla | or it's allowed? |
| 01:45.52 | stinebd | i suggest you read the licenses and then comment on them |
| 01:46.13 | stinebd | you can modify gpl code all you want, pack it up and sell it even. you just have to provide the modified source code. |
| 01:46.58 | stinebd | i can make a kernel tree with a custom version config, stick it on a cd and sell that at a rock concert if i want. as long as there's source code if someone asks for it. |
| 01:47.20 | stinebd | also, as long as anyone would buy it. which they wouldn't. |
| 01:47.38 | Cotulla | so I can put closed bootloader to nand and protect it from loading any android images except mine? |
| 01:48.02 | stinebd | you just went off track with it |
| 01:48.05 | stinebd | is the bootloader gpl? |
| 01:48.10 | Cotulla | no |
| 01:48.21 | stinebd | so what does that have to do with anything then? |
| 01:48.40 | stinebd | nothing in the GPL states that you can't run non-GPL software on a system that also runs GPL software |
| 01:48.53 | Cotulla | ok nice :) |
| 01:48.56 | Cotulla | thank u |
| 01:49.04 | stinebd | the GPL states that you can't *link* non-GPL software directly into GPL software without providing the source code for the non-GPL software |
| 01:49.09 | gauner1986 | cotulla: lol |
| 01:49.15 | Cotulla | what is "link"? |
| 01:49.22 | gauner1986 | stinebd: dont give him bad ideas :) |
| 01:49.27 | stinebd | you're a developer and you don't know what linking is? |
| 01:49.37 | Cotulla | gauner1986, I just ask him to know on future |
| 01:49.48 | Cotulla | even to know gpl issues |
| 01:49.52 | stinebd | `man ld` |
| 01:50.10 | Cotulla | stinebd, is it defined in license |
| 01:50.10 | Cotulla | ? |
| 01:50.23 | stinebd | go read the gpl. |
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| 01:51.22 | stinebd | or think of the classic case of kernel tainting. if you load a binary blob kernel module, you taint the kernel license, thus you no longer receive help from upstream kernel developers when stuff breaks |
| 01:51.41 | noellenchris | zego: any update to your cm6? Love it...thanks for sharing |
| 01:51.46 | ali1234 | Cotulla: nokia does exactly that with meego. they have a signed closed source bootloader. it will only boot a signed linux kernel from nokia. if the kernel isn't signed, it disables the DRM of the arm chip, and you can't access protected files (bought movies and music) |
| 01:52.19 | ali1234 | you can boot your own kernel but you lose some features of the device. and they could at any time remove that function if they wanted |
| 01:52.32 | ali1234 | the GPL3 disallows this activity but GPL2 does not |
| 01:52.50 | Cotulla | ali1234, thanks, clear |
| 01:52.57 | gauner1986 | ah nice |
| 01:53.01 | gauner1986 | now it's in log |
| 01:53.02 | ali1234 | as such, nokia is very clear they won't use *any* GPL3 |
| 01:53.09 | Cotulla | hehe |
| 01:53.10 | gauner1986 | thank you zego |
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| 01:53.41 | Cotulla | anyway I am thinking about big thread on XDA about testing... maybe ppl will undestand |
| 01:53.43 | gauner1986 | cotulla: lol.. they even define the backlight as "color" :D |
| 01:53.50 | Cotulla | that without testing it won't be stable |
| 01:54.13 | Cotulla | maybe we can create dmesg auto collect app |
| 01:54.24 | gauner1986 | testing is the essence of development |
| 01:54.24 | gauner1986 | :) |
| 01:54.30 | Cotulla | which upload crash log to some server |
| 01:54.40 | gauner1986 | that's what they tell us at university all the time |
| 01:54.46 | ali1234 | well ubuntu has apport for that |
| 01:54.48 | zego | <noellenchris> working on it, will release soon |
| 01:55.03 | ali1234 | it works quite well... if you are running ubuntu |
| 01:55.09 | noellenchris | sweet! |
| 01:55.27 | Cotulla | ali1234, we need for android |
| 01:55.44 | gauner1986 | cotulla: how do i trigger one of the other led-events |
| 01:55.45 | noellenchris | how bout log when in wm after reboot. something may exist similar...already |
| 01:55.46 | gauner1986 | ? |
| 01:55.57 | Cotulla | wait... |
| 01:55.59 | ali1234 | yeah that would be tricky. apport can run without a UI though, and it does handle kernel crashes if you saved dmesg the right way |
| 01:56.01 | Cotulla | charge battery |
| 01:56.10 | Cotulla | call to phone I guess |
| 01:56.13 | ali1234 | probably has a lot of deps though |
| 01:56.14 | Cotulla | ask desire owners |
| 01:56.39 | Cotulla | so u think it's good idea? |
| 01:57.14 | Cotulla | anyway who will code such app |
| 01:57.19 | Cotulla | I guess noone |
| 01:57.22 | Cotulla | :P |
| 01:57.37 | gauner1986 | it's easier to put andlog to autostart in wm |
| 01:57.38 | gauner1986 | :P |
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| 01:57.56 | Cotulla | but users are lazy to upload it I guess |
| 01:57.58 | ali1234 | build a combined android+ubuntu image |
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| 01:58.06 | Cotulla | but who knows... at first thread |
| 01:58.18 | ali1234 | ubuntu instead the tiny busybox init that android normally has |
| 01:58.35 | gauner1986 | D/lights ( 242): set_light_attention color=0x00ffffff |
| 01:58.38 | gauner1986 | ah ok |
| 01:59.07 | Cotulla | and who say that google have good code / coders / etc? |
| 01:59.12 | gauner1986 | but i have to find out about that blinking shit too |
| 01:59.28 | Cotulla | gauner1986, it's call? |
| 01:59.33 | gauner1986 | cotulla: yes |
| 02:00.13 | Cotulla | ok continue |
| 02:00.35 | Cotulla | anyway I gotta go |
| 02:00.43 | gauner1986 | okay |
| 02:00.44 | gauner1986 | goodnight |
| 02:00.48 | gauner1986 | i need some sleep too |
| 02:00.52 | gauner1986 | will continue tomorrow |
| 02:00.54 | Cotulla | hehe |
| 02:00.56 | Cotulla | bb |
| 02:01.20 | Cotulla | oh twitter |
| 02:01.37 | gauner1986 | what's there to tweet? |
| 02:01.38 | gauner1986 | :P |
| 02:03.28 | Cotulla | I will write thrre about new zImages |
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| 02:04.09 | gauner1986 | cotulla: what do you think about that "your own repository" thing? |
| 02:04.24 | Cotulla | sorry too late |
| 02:04.48 | gauner1986 | hm? |
| 02:05.19 | Cotulla | I guess I will continue develop in my local tree, without releasing any test kernels, when in the September will be big update ;) |
| 02:05.49 | Cotulla | I need more rest :) |
| 02:05.57 | Jack-E | dcordes will love you -,- |
| 02:06.03 | gauner1986 | :D |
| 02:06.13 | gauner1986 | well.. gotta respect that decision |
| 02:06.31 | Jack-E | ;) |
| 02:07.23 | gauner1986 | so i won't be able to test my own lights lib T_T |
| 02:07.24 | gauner1986 | :D |
| 02:07.32 | Jack-E | ;P |
| 02:07.41 | Cotulla | dunno finish it at least... |
| 02:07.46 | gauner1986 | :D |
| 02:07.51 | Cotulla | or it will be without lights |
| 02:08.02 | gauner1986 | not acceptable xD |
| 02:08.08 | Jack-E | gotta have lights |
| 02:08.20 | Cotulla | ok drop it |
| 02:09.29 | Cotulla | maybe even in sept release a ready nand rom :P |
| 02:09.39 | gauner1986 | yay |
| 02:09.40 | gauner1986 | :P |
| 02:09.55 | gauner1986 | while da_g is working on wp7 flash.. xD |
| 02:10.13 | Jack-E | XD |
| 02:11.00 | Cotulla | ;) |
| 02:11.18 | gauner1986 | http://a.imageshack.us/img529/6615/hd2jtagpinssoldered.jpg |
| 02:11.20 | gauner1986 | looks nice |
| 02:11.39 | gauner1986 | you need some calm fingers for that |
| 02:11.58 | Cotulla | maybe |
| 02:12.00 | Jack-E | D: |
| 02:12.06 | gauner1986 | poor leo |
| 02:12.10 | maricsmith | damn |
| 02:12.15 | Jack-E | :'( |
| 02:12.17 | Jack-E | lol |
| 02:12.24 | Cotulla | lets cry together |
| 02:12.26 | Cotulla | :D |
| 02:12.32 | Jack-E | :D |
| 02:12.34 | Cotulla | :'( :'( :'( :'( |
| 02:12.39 | gauner1986 | apt cry |
| 02:12.40 | apt | ACTION cries and sobs until she nearly drowns in her own tears. |
| 02:12.44 | Cotulla | :'( :( :( :'( |
| 02:12.46 | Cotulla | :'( :'( :'( :'( |
| 02:12.47 | Jack-E | :'( :D :'( :D |
| 02:12.56 | gauner1986 | wait |
| 02:13.01 | gauner1986 | apt consideres itself a she? |
| 02:13.05 | gauner1986 | strange world |
| 02:13.06 | gauner1986 | :D |
| 02:13.08 | Cotulla | :D |
| 02:13.12 | Cotulla | apt is she? |
| 02:13.14 | Jack-E | lol |
| 02:13.26 | Cotulla | apt: is she is yes |
| 02:13.29 | maricsmith | whats the process for a jtag "capture |
| 02:13.36 | maricsmith | is that what you'd call it? |
| 02:13.50 | Cotulla | apt is she is yes |
| 02:13.53 | gauner1986 | cotulla: thing is explanation :P |
| 02:13.59 | Cotulla | apt is she? |
| 02:14.02 | gauner1986 | no |
| 02:14.11 | gauner1986 | apt me is female |
| 02:14.12 | apt | moi? |
| 02:14.14 | gauner1986 | :D |
| 02:14.22 | Cotulla | apt me is n00b |
| 02:14.23 | apt | moi? |
| 02:14.33 | Cotulla | apt må is n00b |
| 02:14.34 | apt | okay, Cotulla |
| 02:14.36 | gauner1986 | :D |
| 02:14.40 | Cotulla | apt må |
| 02:14.41 | apt | hmm... må is n00b |
| 02:14.49 | Cotulla | working |
| 02:15.01 | Cotulla | gauner1986, is it ok for u? |
| 02:15.05 | Cotulla | u see "me"? |
| 02:15.16 | gauner1986 | i see må |
| 02:15.19 | Cotulla | :D |
| 02:15.26 | Jack-E | wtf |
| 02:15.31 | Cotulla | apt me |
| 02:15.32 | apt | from memory, cotulla is the HD2's kernel king |
| 02:15.38 | gauner1986 | lol |
| 02:15.39 | Cotulla | apt må |
| 02:15.40 | apt | extra, extra, read all about it, må is n00b |
| 02:15.56 | Cotulla | apt fakker |
| 02:16.02 | Jack-E | XD |
| 02:16.23 | Jack-E | that could be interesting |
| 02:16.29 | Cotulla | apt Cotulla is Cotulla |
| 02:16.30 | apt | ...but cotulla is already something else... |
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| 02:16.37 | gauner1986 | apt forget cotulla |
| 02:16.37 | apt | gauner1986: i forgot cotulla |
| 02:16.38 | Cotulla | apt forgot Cotulla |
| 02:16.47 | Cotulla | apt Cotulla is Cotulla |
| 02:16.48 | apt | Cotulla: okay |
| 02:16.58 | Jack-E | apt remove Cotulla |
| 02:17.03 | Cotulla | apt die |
| 02:17.04 | apt | ACTION takes two shots to the head and crumples to the ground, lifeless. |
| 02:17.08 | gauner1986 | apt voice |
| 02:17.09 | apt | ACTION stands back: arrrr barf! barf! |
| 02:17.19 | Cotulla | apt u is /me |
| 02:17.20 | apt | ...but u is already something else... |
| 02:17.33 | Cotulla | apt hey is /me n00b |
| 02:17.35 | apt | ...but hey is already something else... |
| 02:17.36 | Jack-E | indeed |
| 02:17.40 | Cotulla | apt hello is /me n00b |
| 02:17.41 | apt | ACTION stands up and shouts "HELLO is /me n00b!" |
| 02:17.47 | gauner1986 | :D |
| 02:17.48 | Cotulla | apt hello |
| 02:17.49 | apt | Howdy Bub |
| 02:17.49 | Jack-E | :P |
| 02:17.55 | Cass | apt apt is apt |
| 02:17.56 | apt | ...but apt is already something else... |
| 02:18.08 | Cotulla | apt how are u is /me naab |
| 02:18.09 | apt | I think you lost me on that one, Cotulla |
| 02:18.25 | Cotulla | apt killme is /me shoots |
| 02:18.25 | apt | ...but killme is already something else... |
| 02:18.30 | Cotulla | apt killme |
| 02:18.31 | apt | killme is probably a test fact |
| 02:18.45 | Cotulla | apt zzz is /me zzz |
| 02:18.45 | apt | ...but zzz is already something else... |
| 02:18.52 | Cotulla | apt zzzzz is /me zzzzz |
| 02:18.53 | apt | okay, Cotulla |
| 02:18.55 | gauner1986 | apt zzz |
| 02:18.56 | apt | yawn... |
| 02:19.00 | Cotulla | apt zzzzz |
| 02:19.01 | apt | from memory, zzzzz is /me zzzzz |
| 02:19.05 | Cotulla | shit |
| 02:19.08 | Cotulla | :( |
| 02:19.12 | gauner1986 | what did you expect |
| 02:19.12 | gauner1986 | :P |
| 02:19.16 | Jack-E | lol |
| 02:19.17 | Cotulla | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:19.23 | gauner1986 | :) |
| 02:19.28 | Cotulla | apt help |
| 02:19.39 | Jack-E | apt find my earphones |
| 02:19.41 | Cotulla | apt babelfish |
| 02:21.10 | gauner1986 | apt eat |
| 02:21.12 | Cotulla | x en ru test |
| 02:21.28 | Cotulla | apt x en ru test |
| 02:21.40 | gauner1986 | sweet |
| 02:21.43 | gauner1986 | he can translate |
| 02:21.44 | gauner1986 | :P |
| 02:21.45 | Cotulla | apt x en de hello gauner1986 |
| 02:21.59 | gauner1986 | :) |
| 02:22.02 | Jack-E | aha |
| 02:22.18 | Cotulla | apt hex 10 |
| 02:22.18 | apt | 10 is 31 30 |
| 02:22.21 | gauner1986 | apt displays the russian chars correctly for me |
| 02:22.35 | Cotulla | apt x en ch test |
| 02:22.57 | Cotulla | apt x en chs test |
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| 02:23.12 | Jack-E | =/ |
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| 02:23.16 | Cotulla | apt news |
| 02:23.19 | gauner1986 | he doesnt like chinese |
| 02:23.20 | gauner1986 | :P |
| 02:23.25 | Jack-E | :P |
| 02:23.25 | RJackson | I thought "cn" was china. :p |
| 02:23.35 | Jack-E | ohai Rob |
| 02:23.35 | RJackson | apt x en cn test |
| 02:23.38 | RJackson | sups |
| 02:23.42 | Cotulla | apt cpustats |
| 02:23.43 | apt | Total CPU usage: 15325.8 s ... Total used: 2.9 % (parent/child ratio: 100.0 %) |
| 02:23.59 | Cotulla | apt crypt |
| 02:24.13 | Cotulla | apt dbugs |
| 02:24.29 | Cotulla | apt flags |
| 02:24.46 | gauner1986 | lol |
| 02:24.48 | Jack-E | oh nooo |
| 02:24.53 | Cotulla | apt wikipedia n00b |
| 02:24.54 | Jack-E | lost forever |
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| 02:25.30 | Cotulla | apt say die |
| 02:25.31 | apt | die |
| 02:25.36 | Cotulla | apt say /me die |
| 02:25.37 | apt | /me die |
| 02:25.42 | gauner1986 | ha-ha |
| 02:25.42 | gauner1986 | :D |
| 02:25.45 | RJackson | lold |
| 02:26.00 | Cass | apt say \/me die |
| 02:26.01 | apt | \/me die |
| 02:26.01 | Cotulla | apt say it's time to sleep. bb ppl! |
| 02:26.01 | apt | it's time to sleep. bb ppl! |
| 02:26.05 | RJackson | apt act die |
| 02:26.06 | Cass | meh |
| 02:26.08 | Jack-E | apt say Rob l2sleep |
| 02:26.09 | apt | Rob l2sleep |
| 02:26.09 | RJackson | :/ |
| 02:26.12 | Cotulla | wakt |
| 02:26.15 | Cotulla | wait |
| 02:26.18 | Cotulla | bug> |
| 02:26.19 | Cotulla | ? |
| 02:26.24 | Cotulla | apt say /me die |
| 02:26.25 | apt | /me die |
| 02:26.30 | Cotulla | apt say it's time to sleep. bb ppl! |
| 02:26.31 | apt | it's time to sleep. bb ppl! |
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| 02:26.45 | Cotulla | hm |
| 02:26.47 | gauner1986 | you gotta find that security hole in apt |
| 02:26.48 | gauner1986 | :D |
| 02:26.50 | Cotulla | whrtr "apt\/me die"? |
| 02:26.56 | Cotulla | *where |
| 02:27.01 | Jack-E | apt say rob did you get up at 4pm or was tom wrong? |
| 02:27.02 | apt | rob did you get up at 4pm or was tom wrong |
| 02:27.10 | Cass | \ is an escape char in unix |
| 02:27.15 | Cotulla | Cotullaapt say /me die |
| 02:27.18 | RJackson | today? I had my alarm at 4pm and got up at 5pm |
| 02:27.22 | Cass | i escaped the / |
| 02:27.39 | gauner1986 | apt doesnt like that |
| 02:27.40 | gauner1986 | ^^ |
| 02:27.41 | Cotulla | wtf ok |
| 02:27.49 | Cotulla | apt /me |
| 02:27.50 | apt | it has been said that /me is cool |
| 02:28.06 | Cotulla | apt say /nick apt2 |
| 02:28.07 | apt | /nick apt2 |
| 02:28.09 | Jack-E | apt say Rob should go to bed earlier so jack can make his scripts for him |
| 02:28.09 | apt | Rob should go to bed earlier so jack can make his scripts for him |
| 02:28.12 | Cotulla | apt say/nick apt2 |
| 02:28.29 | RJackson | bots send chat differently to actions and commands, |
| 02:28.34 | RJackson | I'm surprised my "act" command didn't work |
| 02:28.41 | Cotulla | apt quote 124124 |
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| 02:28.56 | Cotulla | apt quote test |
| 02:30.19 | Cotulla | ok gotta go |
| 02:30.20 | Cotulla | bb |
| 02:30.22 | gauner1986 | goodnight |
| 02:30.23 | *** part/#htc-linux Cotulla (~opera@nat004-252-205-109.tvoe.tv) |
| 02:30.28 | Jack-E | night |
| 02:30.30 | Scrizz | :O |
| 02:30.32 | Scrizz | :( |
| 02:30.39 | Scrizz | i blame gauner |
| 02:30.40 | Jack-E | apt say goodnight |
| 02:30.41 | apt | goodnight |
| 02:30.49 | Scrizz | lol |
| 02:30.55 | RJackson | this guy from scissors is scary. :/ |
| 02:31.00 | RJackson | scissor sisters* |
| 02:31.07 | Jack-E | DL |
| 02:31.10 | Jack-E | D: |
| 02:31.12 | Jack-E | ew |
| 02:31.17 | RJackson | he came on wearing a jacket made of nails |
| 02:31.25 | Jack-E | he's gay isn't he? |
| 02:31.26 | RJackson | now he's doing crazy dances that even camp people wouldn't do |
| 02:31.30 | Cass | gauner1986 : so what was the result of liblights ? |
| 02:31.43 | Scrizz | lol Jack |
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| 02:32.01 | gauner1986 | cass: well i got a testing version up.. but leds are not implemented in kernel yet.. so you won't be able to see any results with it |
| 02:32.17 | RJackson | anyway jack, what about your scripts? |
| 02:32.20 | Cass | yah but you got it compiled and some output from using it ? |
| 02:32.27 | gauner1986 | cass: yes |
| 02:32.31 | Cass | sweet nw |
| 02:32.34 | Jack-E | ooh |
| 02:32.36 | Jack-E | yeah |
| 02:32.36 | gauner1986 | cass: what android gives me |
| 02:32.43 | Jack-E | fixing the broken ones |
| 02:32.49 | Jack-E | that annoy me |
| 02:33.13 | Jack-E | because i cba to manually do it |
| 02:33.21 | maricsmith | i noticed we have control over the flash on the leo now, is their a way to turn on just one of the leds instead of both? or is it an array thats not adjustable in that way. |
| 02:33.28 | gauner1986 | now i want to see ppp working |
| 02:33.29 | gauner1986 | :D |
| 02:33.58 | Scrizz | :D |
| 02:34.31 | Cass | i may play with that tomorrow |
| 02:34.39 | Cass | back to work so plenty of time :) |
| 02:34.44 | gauner1986 | you mean.. after you stood up? |
| 02:34.45 | gauner1986 | :P |
| 02:35.48 | Cass | i have a lot of catching up to do .. not sure whats going on right now |
| 02:37.03 | gauner1986 | better not go on vacation these times :P |
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| 02:37.44 | Cass | for sure .. saying that i go away and come back to an all day kernel and darkstone build so maybe i should piss off again |
| 02:38.00 | gauner1986 | :D |
| 02:38.04 | Scrizz | lol |
| 02:40.08 | Cass | gauner1986 : you mention ppp didint Letama come on earler mentioning he had it working via a patched libril ? |
| 02:40.31 | gauner1986 | cass: exactly |
| 02:40.43 | gauner1986 | but that doesn't seem to work on cm6 |
| 02:40.53 | gauner1986 | so i'm trying it on darkstone's froyo+sense now |
| 02:40.55 | Cass | ahh .. k he released the ril ? |
| 02:41.00 | Cass | sweet .. |
| 02:41.06 | gauner1986 | i did compile it with his suggestions |
| 02:41.38 | Cass | froyo sense is lovely .. thanks to that i have an all day droid phone now |
| 02:41.41 | Cass | cant be happier |
| 02:41.52 | gauner1986 | hm yeah |
| 02:42.01 | gauner1986 | battery could be somewhat better |
| 02:42.03 | gauner1986 | but it's very usable |
| 02:42.04 | gauner1986 | true |
| 02:42.12 | Scrizz | really Cass? |
| 02:42.14 | Scrizz | nice |
| 02:42.19 | Cass | really ? battery is fucking awsome for me now |
| 02:42.27 | Scrizz | how long? |
| 02:42.46 | gauner1986 | i still miss a neat alarm app for android :D |
| 02:42.59 | Cass | unplugged for 13 hrs, used a lot on web / wifi and still have36% |
| 02:43.06 | Scrizz | nice |
| 02:43.22 | gauner1986 | it's still not optimal |
| 02:43.32 | Cass | for sure but not a lot less than winmo |
| 02:43.49 | gauner1986 | cotulla said there's something to catch in enabling cpu power collapse |
| 02:44.06 | Cass | yeah collapse and it never gets up ;) |
| 02:44.11 | gauner1986 | :D |
| 02:46.05 | gauner1986 | sometimes the touchscreen doesnt work when i reboot to winmo |
| 02:46.06 | gauner1986 | -.- |
| 02:46.16 | gauner1986 | then i have to pull off battery cover again |
| 02:46.16 | Cass | not rebooted that in days |
| 02:46.31 | Scrizz | lol |
| 02:46.34 | Cass | but yeah is see ts issues in droid .. i wait a few secs and its gone |
| 02:46.40 | gauner1986 | nah |
| 02:46.42 | gauner1986 | not in droid |
| 02:46.46 | gauner1986 | i mean in winmo |
| 02:46.49 | gauner1986 | after you rebooted |
| 02:46.53 | gauner1986 | i can't enter pin |
| 02:46.54 | gauner1986 | :D |
| 02:47.01 | gauner1986 | can't do anything on touchscreen |
| 02:47.04 | gauner1986 | but buttons work |
| 02:47.04 | Cass | not noticed .. i reboot and i get droid again :) |
| 02:47.29 | Scrizz | hmm |
| 02:47.52 | gauner1986 | i also have to re-setup data connection everytime i booted android |
| 02:47.57 | gauner1986 | in winmo |
| 02:47.59 | gauner1986 | very strange |
| 02:48.02 | Cass | yeah i do too |
| 02:48.12 | Cass | no biggy tho |
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| 02:49.33 | Cass | oi .. any you lot tried to get tiger woods running on hd2 ? |
| 02:49.46 | Cass | i get some message about wrong screen ty0pe |
| 02:49.46 | Scrizz | lol? |
| 02:49.48 | Cass | type |
| 02:49.49 | gauner1986 | tiger woods? :D |
| 02:49.53 | Cass | golf |
| 02:49.59 | Scrizz | yeah |
| 02:50.03 | Scrizz | -_- |
| 02:50.04 | gauner1986 | i know |
| 02:50.08 | gauner1986 | my father is golf addict |
| 02:50.11 | gauner1986 | :P |
| 02:50.15 | Cass | :) |
| 02:50.44 | Scrizz | i might just buy a HD2 |
| 02:50.44 | Cass | not sure if its a proper error or if its due to no proper 3d chip |
| 02:51.33 | gauner1986 | it's funny how my little soft-reset app for android already got distributed on the web |
| 02:51.42 | gauner1986 | you can find it on google on some french sites.. |
| 02:51.42 | gauner1986 | :D |
| 02:51.45 | Scrizz | lol |
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| 02:51.53 | Cass | yeah saw you wrote one .. lol never tried it yet |
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| 02:52.36 | noellenchris | ppp? |
| 02:52.51 | Cass | ? |
| 02:53.13 | noellenchris | any luck on froyostone w/ppp |
| 02:53.19 | gauner1986 | hm |
| 02:53.20 | gauner1986 | no |
| 02:53.22 | gauner1986 | too tired atm |
| 02:53.36 | Cass | gf's fault i suppose :P |
| 02:53.39 | noellenchris | uploads are so slow w/rnmet.....:( |
| 02:53.41 | gauner1986 | true |
| 02:53.53 | Scrizz | lies |
| 02:53.54 | Scrizz | >_> |
| 02:54.06 | Cass | gauner1986 : not ugly anymore |
| 02:54.18 | gauner1986 | well.. gf was keeping me awake all the weekend :P |
| 02:54.34 | Cass | heh |
| 02:54.41 | Scrizz | heh |
| 02:54.43 | noellenchris | so many builds out lately..hehe, i've run a different build each day..lol |
| 02:54.44 | Cass | acid party i suppose |
| 02:54.59 | Scrizz | how come I wasn't invited? |
| 02:55.02 | gauner1986 | cass: seems like a matter of point of view :P |
| 02:55.09 | Cass | haha |
| 02:55.29 | Cass | Scrizz : no one invites a mutilator |
| 02:55.36 | Scrizz | :O |
| 02:55.42 | Scrizz | since when? |
| 02:55.50 | Cass | since always |
| 02:55.50 | Scrizz | i do parties to |
| 02:55.54 | Cass | you missed that memo |
| 02:56.00 | Scrizz | :( |
| 02:56.12 | noellenchris | gauner1986: u say we can push lib file to test? |
| 02:56.40 | gauner1986 | noellenchris: look at what letama suggested on the mailinglist |
| 02:56.51 | gauner1986 | pushing the file is not enough |
| 02:57.08 | gauner1986 | and links to it were already posted here |
| 02:57.12 | Cass | gauner1986 : LeTama has it working ? |
| 02:57.17 | gauner1986 | Cass: yes |
| 02:57.20 | Cass | cool .. |
| 02:57.30 | gauner1986 | cass: but that ril kinda sucks |
| 02:57.38 | gauner1986 | cass: bad reception |
| 02:57.47 | Cass | its not the proper htc one for leo ? |
| 02:57.50 | Cass | no read ml |
| 02:57.52 | gauner1986 | no |
| 02:57.57 | Cass | generic one ? |
| 02:57.57 | gauner1986 | it's a generic one |
| 02:58.00 | Cass | k |
| 02:58.06 | gauner1986 | written by phh and colleagues :) |
| 02:58.22 | Cass | k .. thought we were not gonna use that |
| 02:58.30 | noellenchris | funny that we been using same ril since vogue.... |
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| 02:58.49 | gauner1986 | cass: the funny thing is.. pin support doesn't work for them on their phones.. but it does on our leo.. |
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| 02:58.55 | gauner1986 | cass: phh was really pissed |
| 02:59.03 | Cass | heh yeah read that |
| 02:59.27 | noellenchris | pin would cause no boot into android on touchpro/vogue....if i can remember right |
| 02:59.42 | gauner1986 | :P |
| 03:00.28 | gauner1986 | ok, gotta go to bed.. goodnight guys |
| 03:00.33 | Cass | nn m8 |
| 03:00.53 | noellenchris | chow |
| 03:00.56 | Scrizz | bb |
| 03:01.06 | noellenchris | me too. bye all |
| 03:01.11 | Cass | bye |
| 03:01.18 | Scrizz | bb |
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| 03:01.38 | Scrizz | :( |
| 03:03.58 | Jack-E | apt say goognight gauner |
| 03:03.58 | apt | goognight gauner |
| 03:04.08 | Jack-E | ;/ |
| 03:04.16 | RJackson | pretty goog. |
| 03:04.26 | Cass | :) |
| 03:04.37 | RJackson | bah, |
| 03:04.43 | RJackson | where do I go to learn all this kernal shit. |
| 03:04.46 | RJackson | I know nothing about C -,- |
| 03:04.57 | Jack-E | D: i thought you did |
| 03:04.58 | RJackson | nor linux :/ |
| 03:05.00 | RJackson | not C. |
| 03:05.05 | Jack-E | hm |
| 03:05.17 | RJackson | bit of C++, and ofc leaning android-java |
| 03:05.28 | Jack-E | ah yeah |
| 03:05.34 | RJackson | c#* |
| 03:05.37 | RJackson | I don't know C++ D: |
| 03:05.44 | RJackson | I need sleep.. |
| 03:05.51 | Jack-E | lol |
| 03:06.01 | Jack-E | as do i |
| 03:06.14 | Cass | Dont think C is really the issue .. the issue with this kernel shit is knowing the hw platform, reversing the winmo stuff etc .. C helps a bit |
| 03:06.59 | Cass | docs are scarce |
| 03:07.06 | Jack-E | mhm |
| 03:07.19 | Jack-E | damn |
| 03:07.35 | Jack-E | could do with an equaliser app for android =/ |
| 03:07.53 | Jack-E | might look into making one |
| 03:09.33 | Scrizz | there should be one already? |
| 03:09.45 | Jack-E | amazingly not |
| 03:09.53 | Scrizz | for music player? |
| 03:09.58 | Jack-E | there are media players with it built in |
| 03:10.08 | Scrizz | oh |
| 03:10.11 | Scrizz | u mean for the OS? |
| 03:10.15 | Jack-E | mhm |
| 03:10.19 | Cass | amazed why you'd want one |
| 03:10.27 | Scrizz | lol |
| 03:10.30 | Cass | always thought they were just noise |
| 03:10.31 | Jack-E | :P |
| 03:10.37 | Scrizz | i don't use eq |
| 03:10.46 | Jack-E | i didn't |
| 03:10.53 | Jack-E | well |
| 03:10.57 | Jack-E | not on anything |
| 03:11.00 | Jack-E | but my hd2 |
| 03:11.03 | Scrizz | lol |
| 03:11.11 | Scrizz | i agree the hd2 sound is bad |
| 03:11.16 | Scrizz | ;) |
| 03:11.17 | Cass | shock |
| 03:11.20 | Jack-E | ;) |
| 03:11.27 | Scrizz | Samsung Vibrant FTW |
| 03:11.29 | Scrizz | :P |
| 03:11.31 | Jack-E | :P |
| 03:11.35 | Cass | wu-tang clan sounds terrific on hd2 |
| 03:11.51 | Scrizz | lol |
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| 03:19.44 | Jack-E | right |
| 03:19.49 | Jack-E | i'm gonna go |
| 03:19.53 | Jack-E | night guys |
| 03:21.20 | Cass | nn m8 |
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| 03:37.02 | theredundant | ~seen dre |
| 03:37.06 | apt | dre <6338dc99@gateway/web/freenode/ip.99.56.220.153> was last seen on IRC in channel #htc-linux, 15d 1h 36m 9s ago, saying: 'lata'. |
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| 04:19.04 | Gordz | afternoon all |
| 04:19.47 | Gordz | the receptionist bought a HD2, and is complaining about windows.. I showed her my N1 and she wants that instead... is there currently a stable port of android 2.1 (or 2.2?!) for the HD2? |
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| 05:33.22 | WoZZeR | [acl]_: you there? |
| 05:42.36 | [acl]_ | WoZZeR, |
| 05:42.45 | [acl]_ | WoZZeR: sup .. i was about to upload the file |
| 05:42.50 | [acl]_ | sorry its been crazy this week |
| 05:42.53 | WoZZeR | cool. I sent you a PM |
| 05:42.55 | WoZZeR | no prob |
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| 05:43.03 | WoZZeR | Yang is basically the same as NBHUtil |
| 05:43.45 | WoZZeR | It's designed for linux though, but wine should work with NBHUtil just fine |
| 05:44.31 | [acl]_ | DZOs compile script uses something called Yang. Do you know what it is ? |
| 05:44.49 | WoZZeR | http://code.google.com/p/htc-flasher/wiki/YANG |
| 05:44.58 | [acl]_ | yeap.. looks like it |
| 05:45.01 | WoZZeR | It does the same thing a NBHUtil |
| 05:45.06 | WoZZeR | as* |
| 05:46.00 | WoZZeR | I prefer to use NBHUtil since I know it creates RHOD images fine |
| 05:46.04 | [acl] | i wanna send you the script and source. You have way more experience with any of this cooking stuff.I'm still unsure if we should go straight to nand or just sdcard like the kovsky guys |
| 05:46.44 | WoZZeR | I'd say there's no point in going pure NAND until we have 95%+ working android |
| 05:46.57 | WoZZeR | At least Sound/3d and the rest of power |
| 05:47.37 | WoZZeR | It's harder to deploy small fixes for NAND, you have to reflash and lose everything on updates |
| 05:47.49 | [acl] | well even not it wont work... our code isnt made to boot straight from nand |
| 05:48.14 | WoZZeR | You need to write NAND drivers, right? |
| 05:48.50 | WoZZeR | or at least wrap the ones from OEMXIPKernel |
| 05:48.54 | [acl] | lot of crap. but might as well start |
| 05:49.20 | WoZZeR | is display going to work with tinboot? |
| 05:49.38 | WoZZeR | I think I remember phh saying it wasn't going to |
| 05:49.42 | [acl] | nope. .. that wont work for sure |
| 05:50.16 | WoZZeR | so what's the plan, let it run for an hour and see what the log spits out? |
| 05:50.42 | WoZZeR | or do everything through ssh |
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| 05:51.19 | [acl] | need to see where we crap out. |
| 05:51.59 | WoZZeR | I don't mind testing the flash, as long as it's only os.nb |
| 05:52.07 | WoZZeR | spl.nb is where you cn brick your device |
| 05:52.25 | [acl] | like i said.. you are the pro |
| 05:52.55 | WoZZeR | do you have a certain build I should use for android? |
| 05:53.22 | WoZZeR | or do you want me to just build it and send it back? |
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| 05:55.01 | [acl] | nahh whoever tests it. i use a modified kernel for my use so xdandroid should suffice |
| 05:55.25 | WoZZeR | I mean something to include logging |
| 05:55.36 | WoZZeR | I have no problem testing it |
| 05:55.44 | WoZZeR | and I can give feedback right away |
| 05:56.00 | WoZZeR | just need to know how to find out where it crapped out |
| 05:56.34 | [acl] | i dont think we will get far. Lets see where the stock kernel and rootfs gets us first |
| 05:56.40 | WoZZeR | ok |
| 05:56.47 | [acl] | once we know what we are dealing with i can give you lines to modify for logging to sdcard |
| 05:56.57 | WoZZeR | cool |
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| 06:01.19 | WoZZeR | Lemme know when it's ready and I can test it |
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| 06:04.09 | [acl] | WoZZeR: http://hotfile.com/dl/60875486/773e384/tinboot.zip.html |
| 06:04.32 | WoZZeR | output.nb is the file you created? |
| 06:04.43 | WoZZeR | is tinboot.s needed/ |
| 06:05.14 | [acl] | output.nb is the file that comes out |
| 06:05.17 | [acl] | that where i left it |
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| 06:06.04 | WoZZeR | done flashing |
| 06:06.06 | WoZZeR | rebooting now |
| 06:06.45 | WoZZeR | it's booting |
| 06:06.50 | WoZZeR | and I see the screen |
| 06:07.12 | WoZZeR | is the console supposed to not show? |
| 06:07.14 | WoZZeR | or only in android? |
| 06:07.30 | [acl] | no idea..lol |
| 06:07.34 | [acl] | ur the first one to see this |
| 06:07.43 | WoZZeR | heh |
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| 06:07.57 | WoZZeR | last line is NAND_READ_ID=5501bcec |
| 06:08.00 | WoZZeR | and it's stuck there |
| 06:08.12 | WoZZeR | there's only have a screen of text |
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| 06:08.48 | [acl] | fuck .. i have no idea where that is |
| 06:08.58 | WoZZeR | does that mean it's trying to read NAND? |
| 06:09.27 | [acl] | did you see the code itself ? it points to the sdcard |
| 06:09.32 | [acl] | shouldnt read nand |
| 06:09.45 | WoZZeR | I have not read the code yet |
| 06:09.56 | WoZZeR | but it's booting, so it's at least reading the zimage from SD |
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| 06:10.36 | [acl] | well this is exciting .. anything else u can see ? other lines ? |
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| 06:10.50 | WoZZeR | the first half of the screen is MDDI stuff |
| 06:11.08 | WoZZeR | ok, there may be 3 logs |
| 06:12.36 | [acl] | im confused as how this works. did you supply your own zimage ? |
| 06:12.41 | WoZZeR | yeah |
| 06:12.52 | WoZZeR | I used the andboot from blazn froyo |
| 06:13.13 | [acl] | what is that? |
| 06:13.40 | WoZZeR | http://sites.google.com/site/androidport/downloads |
| 06:13.45 | WoZZeR | the rar package for blazn |
| 06:14.29 | [acl] | ahh so its xdandroid but modded ? |
| 06:14.32 | WoZZeR | yeah |
| 06:14.36 | WoZZeR | I believe |
| 06:14.53 | WoZZeR | it used to pull sources from autocompilers |
| 06:15.09 | WoZZeR | booted fine from haret |
| 06:15.18 | WoZZeR | earlier |
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| 06:16.04 | [acl] | ok well if it boots from haret then no complaints from me. Eventually we will need to make a diff kernel since change we make might break the haret version. |
| 06:16.17 | WoZZeR | not one I created |
| 06:16.54 | WoZZeR | if you want to send me your zimage, I can test it |
| 06:17.10 | hyperfire21 | nice so if there is a new kernel.. would it be based on the newest or still .29? |
| 06:17.23 | [acl] | hyperfire21: nope .. thats alot of work |
| 06:18.00 | [acl] | WoZZeR: my zimage is just modded for 3d. I many need to do the same to my phone to continue dev on this. but im glad we got this far |
| 06:18.08 | WoZZeR | [acl]: read cfg0 = aa5400c0, cfg1 = 8744a |
| 06:18.12 | WoZZeR | mean anything? |
| 06:18.17 | [acl] | nope |
| 06:18.22 | [acl] | we need a full log bro. |
| 06:18.25 | WoZZeR | want the .nbh? |
| 06:18.42 | WoZZeR | you have the info you need for Yang as well |
| 06:18.44 | WoZZeR | on ppg |
| 06:18.47 | WoZZeR | ppcg* |
| 06:18.56 | [acl] | coo.. just post it on ppcgeeks |
| 06:19.15 | [acl] | we can get others to post info. maybe recreate some sort of log |
| 06:19.17 | WoZZeR | cool, just gonna test reflashing back first |
| 06:20.02 | hyperfire21 | hope all is well in reflashing.. ill also test this out once u confirm it |
| 06:20.06 | WoZZeR | nope, no harm in flashing |
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| 06:20.17 | hyperfire21 | nice |
| 06:20.31 | [acl] | hyperfire21: maybe once we have sound we can move to .29.. even then we are unsure. |
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| 06:22.34 | hyperfire21 | oh nice i meant .27 earlier.. |
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| 06:24.24 | WoZZeR | It's posted |
| 06:24.34 | hyperfire21 | lets try this out |
| 06:25.04 | WoZZeR | let me know if it's not clear enough |
| 06:25.08 | [acl] | if anyone else is gonna try it be good if they post where it pooped out. |
| 06:25.30 | WoZZeR | Our current sources (that I have tested at least), don't allow for booting fully into android, but we boot atleast into the console and crash (this is a good thing, means we are part of the way there). |
| 06:25.41 | WoZZeR | I included that, I'll add to post the last few lines if they can |
| 06:26.24 | [acl] | awesome |
| 06:27.01 | WoZZeR | any ideas? |
| 06:27.19 | WoZZeR | I was reading on tinboot that some file needed to be included |
| 06:27.38 | WoZZeR | an sd card with the andboot folder at the top level |
| 06:27.38 | WoZZeR | an androidinstall.tar file plopped into the andboot folder |
| 06:27.54 | WoZZeR | don't know if that is specific to that build or now |
| 06:28.07 | WoZZeR | or not* |
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| 06:28.20 | [acl] | WoZZeR: in the compile i included everything. All that stuff was supplied in dzo's tinboot branch |
| 06:28.36 | WoZZeR | ok, so it should be in the .nb? |
| 06:29.02 | [acl] | WoZZeR: it might be. Once again unsure of anyt of this. I never cooked in my life |
| 06:29.17 | hyperfire21 | flashing it now |
| 06:29.26 | WoZZeR | I think you did everything fine |
| 06:29.35 | WoZZeR | the yang is the same as what I used for NBHUtil |
| 06:30.09 | WoZZeR | I'll try a different android source |
| 06:30.51 | [acl] | WoZZeR: well the builts themselves arent even being used yet |
| 06:31.10 | WoZZeR | it should load zimage and initrd, right? |
| 06:31.10 | [acl] | we are craping out at the kernel. Once we get passed the init, then we can worry about android itself |
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| 06:31.28 | hyperfire21 | by the way did u rename it to RHODIMG.nbh before flashing? |
| 06:31.40 | WoZZeR | no |
| 06:31.50 | WoZZeR | ruu_signed.nbh |
| 06:31.54 | WoZZeR | that's what most use to flash |
| 06:32.01 | hyperfire21 | ok |
| 06:32.12 | WoZZeR | [acl]: so startup.txt isn't usedm right? |
| 06:32.23 | WoZZeR | it's initrd.gz and zImage where we are? |
| 06:32.46 | [acl] | startup shouldnt be used anymore.. thats just for haret |
| 06:33.25 | WoZZeR | it's initrd.gz and zImage where we are? |
| 06:33.29 | WoZZeR | whoops |
| 06:33.41 | [acl] | i think we still at zimage |
| 06:33.42 | WoZZeR | I'm just trying to figure out where to start debugging |
| 06:33.47 | WoZZeR | and find out why it's trying to read NAND |
| 06:34.48 | WoZZeR | actually, it might be a random crash |
| 06:35.06 | [acl] | lol could very well be. |
| 06:35.13 | hyperfire21 | wozzer its stuck at initial touch pro 2 screen.. how long did it take u |
| 06:35.17 | hyperfire21 | to boot |
| 06:35.18 | WoZZeR | it has stopped at 3 different places now |
| 06:35.27 | WoZZeR | 10 seconds or so |
| 06:35.34 | WoZZeR | do you have everything on your sd card correct? |
| 06:35.38 | hyperfire21 | are u using gsm? |
| 06:35.41 | hyperfire21 | i have cdma |
| 06:35.42 | WoZZeR | no, cdma |
| 06:35.45 | hyperfire21 | yea |
| 06:35.48 | hyperfire21 | everything on sd |
| 06:35.57 | WoZZeR | try restarting |
| 06:36.16 | WoZZeR | [acl]: stuck at usb probe 3 times now |
| 06:36.28 | [acl] | yeah thats expected too |
| 06:36.36 | [acl] | phh mentioned it |
| 06:36.48 | hyperfire21 | hmm its stuck |
| 06:36.49 | WoZZeR | older zImage works better? |
| 06:36.52 | hyperfire21 | should i try reflashing? |
| 06:36.59 | WoZZeR | shouldn't matter |
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| 06:37.16 | WoZZeR | you have 'andboot' on your sd card? |
| 06:37.20 | WoZZeR | as a main folder |
| 06:37.22 | WoZZeR | root* |
| 06:37.23 | hyperfire21 | yea |
| 06:37.24 | Art-X | morning :-) |
| 06:37.39 | hyperfire21 | does zimage/modules matter? |
| 06:37.39 | WoZZeR | [acl]: want to build a zImage with no usb support? |
| 06:37.44 | [acl] | WoZZeR: need to actually butcher the zimage. May need to get a hold of the kovsky or dimamond guys to see what they did |
| 06:37.46 | WoZZeR | yes |
| 06:38.37 | WoZZeR | I'm getting the console screen though |
| 06:38.42 | WoZZeR | so that makes life a lot easier |
| 06:39.01 | [acl] | yeah.. ill get back to you on this. i gotta go for now |
| 06:39.13 | WoZZeR | ok, progress is progress |
| 06:39.23 | [acl] | yup.. gnite folks |
| 06:39.27 | WoZZeR | night |
| 06:39.40 | hyperfire21 | no idea man its stuck at the initial screen.. |
| 06:39.51 | WoZZeR | what build are you using? |
| 06:39.55 | hyperfire21 | blazn |
| 06:40.00 | WoZZeR | from cab or from rar? |
| 06:40.03 | hyperfire21 | rar |
| 06:40.14 | WoZZeR | hmmm, try an older zimage |
| 06:40.23 | hyperfire21 | does it matter that my data file is created already |
| 06:40.48 | hyperfire21 | data.img |
| 06:40.50 | WoZZeR | shouldn't, but can't say for sure |
| 06:41.05 | WoZZeR | my first one booted with data.img already created |
| 06:41.34 | hyperfire21 | no idea.. i think ill try an older zimage |
| 06:41.46 | hyperfire21 | actually im not even sure which one i have right now lol |
| 06:41.54 | hyperfire21 | i might have updated it |
| 06:42.01 | hyperfire21 | past the blazn release |
| 06:42.30 | hyperfire21 | ill start from scratch |
| 06:43.14 | WoZZeR | hmmm, freshblazn takes about 20-30 to boot |
| 06:43.20 | WoZZeR | seconds to console |
| 06:43.44 | hyperfire21 | ok |
| 06:43.45 | WoZZeR | that zimage is less stable |
| 06:43.51 | hyperfire21 | which one are u using |
| 06:44.00 | WoZZeR | the 2.1 sense seemed to boot fast |
| 06:44.05 | WoZZeR | and stopped at the same point 3 times |
| 06:44.17 | WoZZeR | the blazn one has stopped at 6 different places so far |
| 06:44.24 | Art-X | ~seen Cotulla |
| 06:44.24 | apt | cotulla <~opera@nat004-252-205-109.tvoe.tv> was last seen on IRC in channel #htc-linux, 4h 14m 4s ago, saying: 'bb'. |
| 06:44.56 | hyperfire21 | ok so which one do u want me to try |
| 06:44.59 | Art-X | any new zImages released this weekend? |
| 06:45.10 | hyperfire21 | im dloading an android build? which one should i get |
| 06:45.26 | WoZZeR | I tried the archived 2.1 |
| 06:45.36 | WoZZeR | let me get link |
| 06:45.55 | WoZZeR | http://reefermattness.scepterr.info/archive/%5BMJG%5DRhod.2.1.Sense.061610.rar |
| 06:45.57 | WoZZeR | I tried that one |
| 06:46.21 | hyperfire21 | ok |
| 06:46.46 | hyperfire21 | dloading |
| 06:47.34 | hyperfire21 | are u stayin awake? ill be able to dload and try within 5-10 mins |
| 06:48.01 | WoZZeR | I can stay up for a bit |
| 06:48.07 | hyperfire21 | ok coo |
| 06:48.53 | WoZZeR | grrr, might have to start building my own zimages |
| 06:51.36 | hyperfire21 | heh |
| 06:57.01 | hyperfire21 | wonder if booting from nand will fix sound.. |
| 06:57.09 | hyperfire21 | read somewhere cotulla said that |
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| 06:57.58 | WoZZeR | the hope is that by not allowing nk.exe to run, it could fix stuff |
| 06:58.02 | WoZZeR | that's the hope at least |
| 06:59.29 | hyperfire21 | are we sure the nand is erased with this ruu? |
| 06:59.39 | WoZZeR | won't matter |
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| 06:59.44 | hyperfire21 | ok |
| 06:59.45 | WoZZeR | it's overwriting the XIP portion |
| 07:00.02 | WoZZeR | this isn't really a NAND install |
| 07:00.23 | WoZZeR | it's just booting directly to linux, the step after that is NAND |
| 07:00.23 | hyperfire21 | ok but im not getting past that touch pro 2 logo |
| 07:00.30 | WoZZeR | do you have the SD card in? |
| 07:00.32 | hyperfire21 | sprint tp2 |
| 07:00.42 | hyperfire21 | yea i just transferred the andboot folder |
| 07:00.49 | hyperfire21 | thats all thats in this sdcard |
| 07:00.52 | WoZZeR | so you have /sd card/andboot/zImage |
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| 07:01.08 | hyperfire21 | yea |
| 07:01.10 | hyperfire21 | sprint tp2 |
| 07:01.20 | WoZZeR | and initrd.gz? |
| 07:01.30 | hyperfire21 | yea |
| 07:01.34 | WoZZeR | hmmm |
| 07:01.44 | hyperfire21 | all i didd was |
| 07:01.54 | hyperfire21 | flash the ruu and transfer that dloaded andboot folder to sd |
| 07:02.05 | hyperfire21 | ill try a restart |
| 07:02.30 | hyperfire21 | ill give it a min |
| 07:02.55 | hyperfire21 | what rom were u using |
| 07:03.07 | WoZZeR | WM rom? |
| 07:03.10 | hyperfire21 | yea |
| 07:03.13 | WoZZeR | mine |
| 07:03.29 | hyperfire21 | could energyrom be the prob? |
| 07:03.34 | WoZZeR | no |
| 07:03.39 | WoZZeR | shouldn't |
| 07:04.08 | hyperfire21 | bcoz last time i tried that wavdev.dll it wouldnt get erased or replaced in energyrom with resco |
| 07:04.14 | WoZZeR | the flash only took about 10 secs, right? |
| 07:04.20 | hyperfire21 | somehow was locked |
| 07:04.23 | hyperfire21 | yea |
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| 07:05.03 | hyperfire21 | by the way how did u flash it |
| 07:05.07 | WoZZeR | RUU |
| 07:05.12 | hyperfire21 | windows? |
| 07:05.14 | WoZZeR | yeah |
| 07:05.15 | hyperfire21 | or from device |
| 07:05.17 | hyperfire21 | ok |
| 07:05.20 | WoZZeR | from windows |
| 07:05.21 | hyperfire21 | hmm |
| 07:05.28 | hyperfire21 | i did the same but not sure |
| 07:05.44 | WoZZeR | try a hard reset |
| 07:05.49 | hyperfire21 | ok |
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| 07:08.09 | hyperfire21 | wozzer i think then maybe data.img matters |
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| 07:08.25 | hyperfire21 | bcoz i dont have that |
| 07:08.28 | WoZZeR | no, it doesn't |
| 07:08.37 | WoZZeR | it's not even getting that far yet |
| 07:08.39 | hyperfire21 | what else could be the reason |
| 07:09.23 | hyperfire21 | wait |
| 07:09.26 | hyperfire21 | what hardspl do u have |
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| 07:09.52 | WoZZeR | 1.00.Olinex |
| 07:10.05 | hyperfire21 | rhod400? |
| 07:10.13 | WoZZeR | that's not hspl |
| 07:10.16 | WoZZeR | that's device version |
| 07:10.19 | hyperfire21 | no i know that |
| 07:10.19 | hyperfire21 | lol |
| 07:10.21 | WoZZeR | I have a 500, from VZW |
| 07:10.26 | hyperfire21 | i have the same 1.00 olinex |
| 07:10.27 | WoZZeR | shouldn't matter though |
| 07:11.09 | hyperfire21 | i dunno what else it could be |
| 07:12.32 | WoZZeR | I don't think it does |
| 07:13.21 | hyperfire21 | we need someone else to also try this out |
| 07:13.36 | hyperfire21 | i used the ruu u posted on ppcg |
| 07:14.36 | hyperfire21 | ill flash ur rom |
| 07:14.40 | hyperfire21 | then try it again |
| 07:15.17 | WoZZeR | it's not because of my rom |
| 07:15.26 | hyperfire21 | any other idea? |
| 07:15.45 | WoZZeR | I'm thinking it's your SD card |
| 07:15.48 | WoZZeR | something isn't setup right |
| 07:15.55 | hyperfire21 | hmm |
| 07:16.08 | hyperfire21 | its a formatted fat32 1gb sandisk |
| 07:16.17 | WoZZeR | that should be fine |
| 07:16.21 | hyperfire21 | then i transferred andboot folder to it from the link u gave me |
| 07:19.00 | hyperfire21 | wozzer did u ever try booting without data.img |
| 07:19.04 | WoZZeR | yup |
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| 07:19.38 | hyperfire21 | the only other thing different i see is the rom then |
| 07:20.10 | WoZZeR | I can tell you it's not the rom, there is nothing special about it |
| 07:21.24 | hyperfire21 | ok well ill wait till someone else tries it |
| 07:22.14 | hyperfire21 | anyway to make the ruu create a log to sd |
| 07:22.23 | WoZZeR | no |
| 07:22.53 | hyperfire21 | ok |
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| 07:27.38 | hyperfire21 | wait wozzer do u think radio matters then? |
| 07:27.46 | hyperfire21 | spl? |
| 07:27.46 | WoZZeR | nope |
| 07:27.56 | WoZZeR | spl is the only thing |
| 07:28.00 | WoZZeR | but you have the same one |
| 07:28.15 | WoZZeR | it boots from your sd card |
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| 07:28.24 | WoZZeR | if you are getting the logo, that's where it's stopping |
| 07:29.12 | hyperfire21 | are u using the zimage from that sense 2.1 build? |
| 07:29.22 | WoZZeR | on that one sense built, you may need to change initrd to initrd.gz |
| 07:29.31 | WoZZeR | no, I've tried it with the latest |
| 07:29.33 | WoZZeR | works fine |
| 07:29.36 | hyperfire21 | let me check |
| 07:29.40 | WoZZeR | http://balsat.hopto.org/linuxmsm.php |
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| 07:29.57 | hyperfire21 | yea |
| 07:30.09 | hyperfire21 | its initrd ill change it |
| 07:30.20 | WoZZeR | shouldn't matter |
| 07:30.23 | WoZZeR | but you cant ry |
| 07:31.20 | hyperfire21 | tryin it |
| 07:33.25 | WoZZeR | if that still isn't working, flash back to windows and double check that it boots |
| 07:33.41 | hyperfire21 | yea windows booted |
| 07:33.44 | hyperfire21 | tried already |
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| 07:34.00 | WoZZeR | are you flashing between them? |
| 07:34.04 | hyperfire21 | loading sense 2.1 through haret then ill flash the ruu again |
| 07:34.28 | WoZZeR | let it sit for 5 mins |
| 07:34.34 | [ad] | ist away (bye) |
| 07:34.41 | WoZZeR | maybe there's an issue with the card itself |
| 07:34.53 | hyperfire21 | haret is booting sense 2.1 |
| 07:34.55 | hyperfire21 | thru windows |
| 07:35.02 | hyperfire21 | so card seems sfine |
| 07:35.21 | WoZZeR | still could be an issue |
| 07:35.30 | WoZZeR | windows may have error checking |
| 07:35.33 | hyperfire21 | ill try a diff card |
| 07:35.47 | WoZZeR | make sure you don't have any attributes set |
| 07:35.56 | WoZZeR | other than that, I'm just waiting for other feedback |
| 07:36.04 | hyperfire21 | ok |
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| 08:22.15 | elgrego | Right today i'd like the full ram zimage fixed, leds 720p camcorder and anything else is a bonus ;) |
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| 08:38.49 | DuperMan | yo |
| 08:39.06 | DuperMan | MAKE IT WORK ON HD2 OR IM TELLIN' |
| 08:39.57 | DuperMan | j/k. much straight luv at all devs |
| 08:45.27 | elgrego | I've added the fullram zimage and cant see any artifacts? where will it tell me how much ram i have |
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| 08:53.20 | elgrego | anyone? |
| 08:54.03 | DuperMan | I think that benchmarking tool should tell you |
| 08:54.04 | DuperMan | wait |
| 08:54.30 | DuperMan | Quadrant |
| 08:55.19 | DuperMan | SetCPU does too, in the info screen |
| 08:56.31 | elgrego | Thanks, i'll try that :) |
| 08:57.51 | elgrego | bugger, got onto market and started getting little white lines at the top of the screen :( |
| 09:03.06 | elgrego | only getting a scrore of 1285, is that average? |
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| 09:04.35 | phh | <[acl]> i wanna send you the script and source. You have way more experience with any of this cooking stuff.I'm still unsure if we should go straight to nand or just sdcard like the kovsky guys (( the problem is booting from nand, having a / in nand is easy |
| 09:06.12 | phh | but I think the easiest way is having a full system in initramfs |
| 09:06.23 | phh | no mmc, no mtd driver involved |
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| 09:07.27 | fakker | i get 1300s with quadrant |
| 09:07.30 | fakker | using froyostone sense |
| 09:08.04 | elgrego | im using clean |
| 09:08.26 | elgrego | just think what it will be like when its finished! |
| 09:09.39 | theredundant | with nand |
| 09:09.58 | phh | <WoZZeR> [acl]: read cfg0 = aa5400c0, cfg1 = 8744a (( i don't think that's a problem, but msm mtd can be disabled in make menuconfig |
| 09:10.13 | WoZZeR | hey |
| 09:10.23 | WoZZeR | that was actually from the zimage I was using |
| 09:10.44 | WoZZeR | phh: it always crashs at the usb_probe now |
| 09:11.01 | phh | disable usb ? :D |
| 09:11.13 | elgrego | I think i'll stick to the full ram even with the artifacts |
| 09:11.23 | WoZZeR | that would be the easy thing to do, I don't have my ubuntu box set up |
| 09:11.33 | WoZZeR | but we get video, so that's good :D |
| 09:11.38 | WoZZeR | at least on console |
| 09:11.55 | phh | yup, really good and unexpected |
| 09:12.18 | WoZZeR | can you whip up a zImage without usb support? |
| 09:12.24 | WoZZeR | don't know how hard it is |
| 09:12.53 | phh | don't know either.. our kernel isn't meant to be modulable |
| 09:13.19 | WoZZeR | [acl] was saying that he would probably have to hack up a zImage to get it working correctly |
| 09:13.46 | phh | we coul trace properly usb I guess |
| 09:13.51 | phh | later. |
| 09:14.27 | WoZZeR | I'm waiting on other people to see how far they get |
| 09:14.35 | WoZZeR | on the booting process |
| 09:14.39 | galaxy_loser | guys, can aynone tell me who is the man that got htc hero camera fully working on 2.2? |
| 09:14.51 | phh | anyway if screen works, i'll try it by myself |
| 09:15.18 | WoZZeR | hyperfire couldn't get it working, but it worked first time for me |
| 09:16.27 | phh | galaxy_loser: cyanogem i think |
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| 09:18.30 | galaxy_loser | phh: ok thanks |
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| 10:14.35 | elgrego | what actually causes the artifacts? Is it to do with graphics drivers? |
| 10:15.50 | phh | what sort of artefacts ? |
| 10:15.57 | phh | I think I might know those ones :D |
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| 10:18.56 | elgrego | little white lines over animated things like the dowloading icon etc |
| 10:20.19 | phh | \o/ |
| 10:20.33 | phh | I've lost so much time on this bug that I'm not sure I want to give the fix :p |
| 10:21.10 | phh | bah. |
| 10:21.16 | DuperMan | :-O FIX?"! |
| 10:21.18 | DuperMan | GIMME! |
| 10:21.22 | phh | the answer is simple, when dealing with hardware, trust the hardware maker |
| 10:21.26 | phh | not the software maker. |
| 10:21.31 | phh | ie take drivers from codeaurora, not google. |
| 10:21.38 | phh | namely copybits and gralloc |
| 10:21.41 | DuperMan | lick the touchscreen you say? |
| 10:22.00 | DuperMan | ;) j/k. how does it compare to the builtin driver? |
| 10:22.08 | phh | it works. |
| 10:22.11 | phh | it's more uptodate |
| 10:22.26 | DuperMan | and does it kill the ts lag when g-sensor's overloaded? |
| 10:22.33 | elgrego | so you can fix it? |
| 10:22.37 | phh | DuperMan: no clue |
| 10:22.45 | DuperMan | sorr for acting noob. you excited me:) thanks for the work man |
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| 10:23.06 | phh | http://husson.hd.free.fr/copybit.qsd8k.so |
| 10:23.11 | phh | http://husson.hd.free.fr/gralloc.qsd8k.so |
| 10:23.15 | phh | copy them in your system/lib/hw |
| 10:23.29 | phh | and delete other copybit.*.so and gralloc.*.so |
| 10:24.11 | DuperMan | cool... then I can haz full ram minus the artifactaion? |
| 10:24.52 | DuperMan | drooling an' checking it out... just gotta find the fullram zimage again lol:) |
| 10:25.19 | phh | it's weird that the bug triggers only when full ram is enabled thouogh |
| 10:25.40 | DuperMan | probably lazy memory mapping in the google driver |
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| 10:25.49 | DuperMan | didn't prepare for the hd2's layout |
| 10:26.33 | elgrego | phh: Sorry i cant do that, any other way, ie a pre patched file? |
| 10:26.44 | phh | lolwat ? |
| 10:26.45 | phh | prepatched file ? |
| 10:27.28 | DuperMan | he wants a cab:D |
| 10:27.39 | phh | ok. |
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| 10:27.45 | phh | i'm not a HD2 dev you know. |
| 10:27.47 | elgrego | copying stuff into the system? not a master of this yet |
| 10:27.50 | phh | I don't even have a HD2. |
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| 10:28.20 | elgrego | Im a graphic designer not a c++ master lol |
| 10:28.21 | phh | i'm just sharing my experience |
| 10:28.33 | phh | yes and ... ? |
| 10:28.41 | phh | none of these kills are required. |
| 10:29.02 | elgrego | eh? so how do they work then? |
| 10:36.50 | DuperMan | phh: should I chmod them before restarting? |
| 10:37.12 | DuperMan | i.e make 'em 777 like the bcm driver? |
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| 10:43.17 | DuperMan | rebooting now without having re-chmod-ed.... |
| 10:43.39 | DuperMan | lol. so gonna need to restore and older system image:D |
| 10:45.07 | DuperMan | running fsck on the sd... fingers crossed... |
| 10:45.09 | DuperMan | :) |
| 10:46.06 | DuperMan | (am on mattc 1.5)... and yup. as I assumed:( graphics driver for x (I guess) ain't loading... stupid chmod>< |
| 10:48.07 | DuperMan | stuck after first and before second boot graphics on mattc 1.5, right after the quietly briliant screen. retrying but not being stupidthis time, gonna freehand it and try chmod 777 on both files:) |
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| 10:49.52 | elgrego | DuperMAn: what is chmod 777? |
| 10:50.35 | DuperMan | permissions ring I think. just letting the system know the files in question have system rights and so (I deduce) are allowed to run as drivers |
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| 10:52.30 | elgrego | I tried copying them in with file manager and it says copy failed :( |
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| 10:53.08 | DuperMan | should've done the following in terminal: |
| 10:53.12 | DuperMan | "su" |
| 10:53.18 | DuperMan | (allow permissions if asked) |
| 10:53.29 | DuperMan | "mount -o re,remount /system" |
| 10:53.42 | DuperMan | and then use the file manager |
| 10:54.22 | DuperMan | but I doubt it'd work without changing permissions after you copy |
| 10:54.31 | elgrego | i cant find terminal? ive seen it on early builds though |
| 10:54.42 | DuperMan | and I'm pretty much guessing what the right permissions are, no factual knowledge applied:( |
| 10:54.48 | DuperMan | get it from the market:) |
| 10:55.01 | DuperMan | "terminal emulator" |
| 10:55.14 | elgrego | cheers |
| 10:55.19 | DuperMan | luck be with yta |
| 10:55.21 | DuperMan | ya |
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| 10:55.53 | elgrego | if it works i'll be made up |
| 10:56.26 | DuperMan | lol... extracting the system.ext2 in wm6.5 (using winrar pocketpc) is slow as molasses |
| 10:56.57 | DuperMan | can't believe I'm as impatient as to extract it only to most likely fail when I'll chmod 'em in a minute:) then extract for the second time... |
| 10:58.18 | DuperMan | but yeah. it's pretty much down to having the nand graciously made working by grand dev cottula once fullram's snazzy |
| 10:58.47 | elgrego | i typed "mount -o re,remount /system" now i have options to mount? |
| 10:59.05 | DuperMan | it was remounted, but I doubt permissions will be auto-applied:/ |
| 10:59.24 | DuperMan | we both better wait for someone with a brain to come along, I'm white-screening on boot |
| 11:00.10 | DuperMan | k no white screen second boot... waiting for the normal mattc 1.5 to boot, fingers crossed. |
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| 11:02.13 | DuperMan | android loaded fine:) |
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| 11:03.25 | DuperMan | linpack scores 36.331:D |
| 11:03.31 | elgrego | failed again grrr |
| 11:03.55 | DuperMan | artifacty... trying the chmod jiggle now... wait a spot |
| 11:04.08 | phh | ah |
| 11:04.11 | phh | means it didn't change anything ? |
| 11:04.38 | elgrego | any luck? |
| 11:05.04 | DuperMan | phh - it failed my first time around. I didn't chmod though |
| 11:05.10 | DuperMan | after replacing the files in system/lib/hw |
| 11:05.15 | phh | no need to chmod |
| 11:05.18 | DuperMan | should I make them 777? |
| 11:05.19 | phh | there is no other copybit.xxxx.so file ? |
| 11:05.27 | phh | and gralloc ? |
| 11:05.43 | elgrego | i just copied and paste and it failed |
| 11:05.46 | DuperMan | hmmmm... none. deleted - had three others. wait, I recopied my original system image |
| 11:06.09 | phh | [12:24:44] <phh> and delete other copybit.*.so and gralloc.*.so |
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| 11:06.14 | phh | (just saying.) |
| 11:06.29 | kAmMa | any progress with usb/wifi tethering ? |
| 11:06.39 | DuperMan | yeah, did it - on the restored image I have three files, qskd8k copybit and gralloc |
| 11:06.46 | DuperMan | and a gralloc.default |
| 11:07.11 | phh | delete them all then push my files |
| 11:07.14 | phh | but shouldn't change anything then :/ |
| 11:07.19 | DuperMan | I'm 90% I had a permissions problem before since it hung in boot when loading the x display driver |
| 11:07.31 | DuperMan | wait a tick... doing it |
| 11:08.02 | DuperMan | how do I check a files current permissions btw? wanna apply the same permissions they had |
| 11:08.09 | DuperMan | after replacing |
| 11:08.09 | phh | ls -l |
| 11:08.37 | DuperMan | thanks:) doing it |
| 11:09.25 | DuperMan | being linux stupid sure is a hinderance... it doesn't give me a permissions number, says -rwxrwxrwx system |
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| 11:10.50 | phh | yeah it gives something comprehensive |
| 11:10.52 | phh | what a shame. |
| 11:11.42 | DuperMan | hmmm... wait, trying the chmod route still.:) I'm pretty sure I'm at fault dude |
| 11:12.20 | DuperMan | 100% sure. ls -l on the coied files gives: |
| 11:12.34 | DuperMan | -rw------ app_89 |
| 11:12.45 | DuperMan | no way I'd let that id pass as a driver was I a kernel! |
| 11:12.47 | DuperMan | :P |
| 11:13.04 | phh | app_89 ? |
| 11:13.10 | phh | I don't want to know how you copied th efiles |
| 11:14.08 | DuperMan | hmmmm... es file explorer:| |
| 11:14.19 | DuperMan | chmod 777 fixed the attributes but the the owners |
| 11:14.34 | phh | who cares about the owner when there is 777 on it ? -_-' |
| 11:14.44 | DuperMan | it's now -rwxrwxrwx app_89 |
| 11:14.54 | DuperMan | hey! don't be mean! I'm s-t-u-p-i-d |
| 11:14.59 | DuperMan | it's a medical condtiion:D |
| 11:15.03 | linkman | anyone knows how to decrease touchscreen sensitivity? |
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| 11:15.49 | elgrego | DuperMan: When you have success, let me know cos im even Ficker lol |
| 11:15.52 | DuperMan | rebooting...:D fingers crossed |
| 11:16.18 | DuperMan | praying to almighty noob shugoth for success... |
| 11:16.20 | DuperMan | :P |
| 11:17.11 | linkman | T_T |
| 11:17.11 | DuperMan | haret gave control to linux kernel... loading... |
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| 11:17.52 | DuperMan | first graphics (htc screen) loaded... |
| 11:18.04 | elgrego | What build? Im on froyostone clean |
| 11:18.06 | DuperMan | fu** yes! boot animation running smooth! |
| 11:18.07 | DuperMan | :D |
| 11:18.20 | DuperMan | waiting to test this bad boy in android itself... |
| 11:18.24 | phh | ok, so it's a fail then |
| 11:18.34 | phh | most likely. |
| 11:18.40 | elgrego | .......well? |
| 11:18.56 | kAmMa | any progress with usb/wifi tethering ? |
| 11:18.57 | DuperMan | lol... no... it's about to be found out. started droid |
| 11:19.16 | DuperMan | *android. no artifacting so far:D |
| 11:19.25 | DuperMan | you most probably rule phh! |
| 11:19.29 | Jack-E | so what are you testing atm |
| 11:19.38 | Jack-E | i came in at the wrong moment =/ |
| 11:19.45 | phh | (don't forget the conclusion, don't trust google concerning drivers.) |
| 11:19.51 | DuperMan | YOU RULE! |
| 11:19.55 | DuperMan | :D |
| 11:20.05 | DuperMan | I don't trust google about anything so no worries there:) |
| 11:20.13 | DuperMan | and btw YOU RULE PHH! |
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| 11:20.21 | phh | I know |
| 11:20.25 | phh | I've been told several times |
| 11:20.26 | elgrego | Duperman:try downloading in market see if you get the lines on the download icon |
| 11:20.27 | Microang | Hi Everybody :D |
| 11:20.32 | phh | well it's the fist time today I think |
| 11:20.36 | Jack-E | hdy |
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| 11:20.38 | DuperMan | |- |_| |_ 3 |
| 11:20.38 | Jack-E | *hye |
| 11:20.42 | Jack-E | *hey |
| 11:20.43 | phh | (ok I've woken up only two hours ago) |
| 11:20.52 | DuperMan | elgrego - no lines on the keyboard |
| 11:20.55 | Jack-E | i woke up 20 mins go -,- |
| 11:21.03 | DuperMan | downloading from market now |
| 11:21.37 | Jack-E | aaah |
| 11:21.41 | Jack-E | looked in logs |
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| 11:21.47 | Microang | DuperMan: Mind uploading those files with chmod? |
| 11:21.49 | DuperMan | sorry elgrego |
| 11:21.52 | Jack-E | worth me trying that? |
| 11:21.57 | DuperMan | I just can't make it artifact:( |
| 11:21.59 | DuperMan | I tried |
| 11:22.00 | DuperMan | :D |
| 11:22.15 | elgrego | DuperMan: I want to do it too, but all that stuff about -rwxrwxrwx app_89 goes over my heaf |
| 11:22.21 | DuperMan | Microang - I don't think there's a point to copying chmodded files, it's only a couple of terminal lines |
| 11:22.21 | elgrego | *head |
| 11:22.46 | Microang | ok, but it might be easier for some noobs :D |
| 11:22.52 | DuperMan | lol ignore it elgrego. just start terminal, do the "su" "mount -o rw,remount /system" |
| 11:22.56 | DuperMan | copy the new files |
| 11:23.05 | DuperMan | then return to terminal and in "system/lib/hw" |
| 11:23.17 | DuperMan | do "chmod 777 filenames" for them |
| 11:23.22 | DuperMan | like, one chmod 777 per file:) |
| 11:23.33 | elgrego | no still over my head lol |
| 11:23.37 | Jack-E | D: |
| 11:23.42 | DuperMan | face - palmed:P |
| 11:23.53 | Jack-E | just type those into terminal emulator |
| 11:24.11 | DuperMan | I don't wanna download stuff I didn't make and probably won't work easier then what the maker of it gave us |
| 11:24.14 | DuperMan | bad karma |
| 11:24.15 | DuperMan | :) |
| 11:24.23 | DuperMan | yes Jack-E. thanks. |
| 11:24.32 | Microang | *types face - palmed:p*...it's not working :P |
| 11:24.37 | DuperMan | btw |
| 11:24.47 | DuperMan | oddly enough it runs a couple celsius cooler |
| 11:24.48 | DuperMan | :D |
| 11:24.59 | Microang | :D |
| 11:25.03 | Jack-E | :D |
| 11:25.04 | Microang | Lemme get my Leo |
| 11:25.19 | Jack-E | meh i'll do it too# |
| 11:25.25 | DuperMan | Linpack gives a nifty 36.577 :D |
| 11:25.25 | elgrego | Upload it and i'll make a virtual cup of tea for everyone :D |
| 11:25.31 | Jack-E | D: |
| 11:25.31 | DuperMan | doing the other benchmarks now |
| 11:26.06 | DuperMan | lol wish it was that simple elgrego... gotta run it yourself |
| 11:26.19 | elgrego | :( |
| 11:26.42 | DuperMan | quadrant feels a ton breezier... |
| 11:26.58 | DuperMan | 1307 on a class 2 sd:D |
| 11:27.00 | Microang | could you give me a link to manusfreedom's website plz |
| 11:27.03 | DuperMan | :D :D :D |
| 11:27.13 | elgrego | It wont copy the files its says copy failed :( |
| 11:27.17 | zego | CM6-HD2port news: RAM: 128MB+32MB+251MB = 411MB total, wifi tether works |
| 11:27.27 | zego | trying to port 720p camera now |
| 11:27.27 | DuperMan | http://htcleo.noobhands.net/manusfreedom/ |
| 11:27.45 | Jack-E | did you mount it? |
| 11:27.59 | Jack-E | sweet zego |
| 11:28.14 | DuperMan | zego: sweetness:) is the 128mb ram dedicated to system? |
| 11:28.27 | elgrego | mount what? I hate this makes me look thick |
| 11:29.13 | DuperMan | "su", "mount -o rw,remount /system" |
| 11:29.34 | zego | <DuperMan> because we run from WM, there is RAM which is can cause a conflict so we cant use |
| 11:29.40 | DuperMan | wow... I top temp at about 32.4c |
| 11:29.45 | DuperMan | what a blessed side-effect |
| 11:29.46 | DuperMan | :) |
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| 11:30.13 | elgrego | DuperMan: I typed that in but what next? |
| 11:30.17 | phh | zego: lol ? WM is killed with haret |
| 11:30.45 | DuperMan | start the file manager and copy the new files to "/system/lib/hw" |
| 11:31.27 | DuperMan | after deleting the old ones of course, including gralloc.default.so |
| 11:31.52 | phh | "of course". |
| 11:31.53 | phh | lol. |
| 11:31.58 | phh | (if I might.) |
| 11:31.59 | DuperMan | and return to terminal to "chmod 777 gralloc.qsd8k.so", "chmod 777 copybit.qsd8k.so" |
| 11:32.19 | DuperMan | zego - you sure 'bout that? |
| 11:32.45 | DuperMan | phh - did I mention you emperically ROCKING MAD SKILLZ? |
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| 11:33.00 | phh | possibly. |
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| 11:33.32 | zego | not quite sure, but this is the best mem map i can set |
| 11:33.48 | zego | will look into haret src, to make sure |
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| 11:34.13 | DuperMan | hmmmm... g-sensor induced touchscreen lag still exists. no shocker:) |
| 11:34.37 | phh | DuperMan: oh wait. |
| 11:34.39 | phh | this issue is logical |
| 11:34.51 | phh | TS and gsensors both on I2C bus |
| 11:34.54 | kAmMa | zego: hi, how did you get the wifi tether work ? |
| 11:34.59 | phh | your I2C bus is 100kHz or 400kHz ? |
| 11:35.19 | DuperMan | hmmmm... any idiotproof method for me to check? dunno |
| 11:35.33 | phh | dmesg |grep -Fi i2c |
| 11:35.41 | zego | <kAmMa> i use other bcm4329 driver, which is based on cm-kernel repo |
| 11:36.09 | kAmMa | zego: and is this driver somewhere available ? |
| 11:36.21 | zego | 1 sec |
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| 11:38.06 | zego | <kAmMa>http://github.com/cyanogen/cm-kernel-experimental/tree/720p/drivers/net/wireless/bcm4329/ |
| 11:38.07 | DuperMan | wait... lookking for the wattage in that infos overload |
| 11:38.09 | DuperMan | :P |
| 11:38.15 | elgrego | chmod 777 gralloc.qsd8k.so wibt copy |
| 11:38.23 | elgrego | wont copy |
| 11:39.11 | kAmMa | zego: thx, but these are the sources, i prefer compiled one... :) |
| 11:39.56 | DuperMan | i2c busy according to grep |
| 11:40.06 | Jack-E | works for me -,- |
| 11:40.07 | DuperMan | elgrego - first copy, then chmod. two different actions |
| 11:40.29 | elgrego | I did and it wont copy |
| 11:40.35 | Mavy | exit |
| 11:40.48 | Jack-E | have you mounted system as rw? |
| 11:41.36 | DuperMan | WOW neocore is SMOOTH |
| 11:41.36 | Mavy | DuperMan weird thing is i have not seen this G-Sensor induced lag yet. Although im running the 384mb ram |
| 11:41.40 | DuperMan | sound enabled even |
| 11:42.02 | DuperMan | Mavy - always have for me. try getting the game "runners" from the market |
| 11:42.13 | phh | DuperMan: just in case. |
| 11:42.17 | phh | do you get higher score in neocore than N1 ? |
| 11:42.28 | DuperMan | 28.9 fps with sound enabled |
| 11:42.33 | DuperMan | dunno how n1 scores |
| 11:42.51 | phh | hum can't remember |
| 11:43.13 | DuperMan | running without sound now. quadrant score was just a touch away from n1, probably due to my class 2 sd card |
| 11:43.30 | elgrego | tried again and gralloc.qsd8k.so will not copy |
| 11:43.43 | Jack-E | well |
| 11:43.48 | Jack-E | it copies for me |
| 11:43.51 | DuperMan | elgrego - did you delete the previous gralloc before copying? |
| 11:43.56 | Jack-E | but android reboots after i do so |
| 11:44.10 | DuperMan | 29.4FPS Neocore without sound :D |
| 11:44.13 | DuperMan | SWEET |
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| 11:44.49 | DuperMan | trying dungeon hunter now, cause is fun:P |
| 11:44.52 | phh | (the conclusion is don't ever trust google) |
| 11:45.08 | DuperMan | google are more 90's ms than apple is |
| 11:45.09 | DuperMan | :P |
| 11:45.14 | DuperMan | lol |
| 11:45.23 | zego | <kAmMa>http://www.mediafire.com/?zn9r4okv9ytie39 |
| 11:45.29 | phh | (I like saying that right after mickey|office joins :D) |
| 11:45.37 | DuperMan | you heard about the google squadron? like, them buying unmanned aircraft for kicks and shizzles? |
| 11:46.06 | mickey|office | chuckles |
| 11:46.16 | phh | mickey|office: don't worry, I meant only about hardware drivers :p |
| 11:46.17 | elgrego | DupMan: yes its pissing me off now :( |
| 11:46.24 | mickey|office | heh |
| 11:46.40 | DuperMan | elgrego - top goog or the files? |
| 11:46.52 | mickey|office | has a love/hate relationship with g00gle |
| 11:46.59 | elgrego | eh? |
| 11:47.08 | phh | mickey|office: welcome to the club |
| 11:47.13 | theredundant | how did u get neocore running |
| 11:47.31 | Jack-E | WOW |
| 11:47.32 | Jack-E | SWEET |
| 11:47.35 | Jack-E | 1422 |
| 11:47.45 | Jack-E | in quadrant |
| 11:47.50 | phh | too bad. |
| 11:48.09 | DuperMan | WOW |
| 11:48.12 | DuperMan | what class sd??? |
| 11:48.15 | Jack-E | 2 |
| 11:48.17 | Jack-E | :P |
| 11:48.23 | DuperMan | dungeon hunter now runs at full awesome |
| 11:48.24 | DuperMan | :D |
| 11:48.31 | DuperMan | Jack-E - what build?! |
| 11:48.32 | DuperMan | :| |
| 11:48.37 | Jack-E | zego's |
| 11:48.39 | DuperMan | mine did a 1307 at same |
| 11:48.49 | DuperMan | hmmm... should I switch? am on mattc 1.5. |
| 11:49.04 | Jack-E | i think zego is working on a new one |
| 11:49.09 | Jack-E | so i'd leave it for now |
| 11:49.18 | DuperMan | yeah. gonna wait for the new batch |
| 11:49.32 | Jack-E | right |
| 11:49.34 | DuperMan | then a batch after that or the one after that one... NAND bliss |
| 11:49.36 | DuperMan | ^^ |
| 11:49.39 | Jack-E | lets see what else i can do ;/ |
| 11:49.44 | Jack-E | :P |
| 11:49.49 | DuperMan | DANCE |
| 11:49.55 | Mavy | is there a bootloader for nand yet? |
| 11:50.07 | Jack-E | nope |
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| 11:50.20 | DuperMan | not that I know of. rumor points at cotulla ostensibly being on one |
| 11:50.20 | Jack-E | cotulla is working on his code privately atm |
| 11:50.28 | Jack-E | gonna release a big one in september |
| 11:50.35 | DuperMan | on one - at work on one |
| 11:50.40 | Jack-E | he mentioned nand |
| 11:50.46 | Jack-E | right |
| 11:50.48 | Jack-E | ttyl |
| 11:50.51 | Jack-E | breakfast |
| 11:50.52 | phh | tinboot should be enough |
| 11:50.57 | DuperMan | l8r |
| 11:50.59 | phh | the problem is not the bootloader |
| 11:51.02 | phh | it's evertyhing else |
| 11:51.07 | DuperMan | what's tinboot? |
| 11:51.19 | DuperMan | and yeah. summady should map that nandy goodness |
| 11:51.27 | DuperMan | that overrated overhyped nandy goodness |
| 11:51.30 | DuperMan | :P |
| 11:52.12 | Mavy | phh thats what i meant. A working bootloader iow configured etc :P |
| 11:52.20 | DuperMan | (would've preferred a bootloader allowing me for nand as cache and a partitioned sd for everything else |
| 11:52.20 | DuperMan | ) |
| 11:52.28 | phh | Mavy: it's kernel's role not bootloader |
| 11:52.30 | phh | well |
| 11:52.42 | Mavy | bootloader should know what to map :) |
| 11:52.51 | Mavy | hard to load the kernel if you cant read the nand :D |
| 11:53.00 | DuperMan | lol |
| 11:53.03 | phh | Mavy: ah you think ? |
| 11:53.08 | phh | you're wrong :p |
| 11:53.28 | manusfreedom | DuperMan: Y ou solve my corruption graphic line |
| 11:53.30 | manusfreedom | ? |
| 11:53.49 | DuperMan | manusfreedom: credit goes to phh |
| 11:53.50 | phh | manusfreedom: I solved. |
| 11:53.50 | DuperMan | all of it |
| 11:54.01 | DuperMan | I was just the first tester on an actual factual hd2:PPP |
| 11:54.03 | manusfreedom | jsut with a new so? |
| 11:54.18 | phh | Mavy: I don't know how cotulla will do, but on current wimo systems, what is done is using "XIP" stuff |
| 11:54.37 | phh | you put XIP stuff as boot loader, and the SPL puts it in RAM |
| 11:54.39 | DuperMan | phh: rom dependant, I believe |
| 11:54.40 | Mavy | XIP makes me cry :'( |
| 11:54.41 | kAmMa | zego: thx very much... |
| 11:54.44 | phh | you put the zImage and initramfs with it |
| 11:54.46 | DuperMan | what goes in it |
| 11:54.47 | phh | and everything is in ram |
| 11:54.48 | phh | ready to boot |
| 11:55.08 | phh | it's the spl that does all the crappy job :p |
| 11:55.27 | DuperMan | remembers his sad sad fiasco back as a xda noob, thinking xip stood for FREE RAMZ |
| 11:55.29 | DuperMan | :P |
| 11:55.46 | Mavy | phh its MS short for MightyShit |
| 11:55.49 | elgrego | Well my android is fooked now will have to put it back on again after work ? |
| 11:55.51 | theredundant | how did u get neocore running :P |
| 11:55.58 | manusfreedom | phh where did you find .so in codeaurora? |
| 11:56.14 | phh | manusfreedom: hardware/msm7k |
| 11:56.21 | phh | don't ask me which branch, I can't remember :p |
| 11:56.21 | DuperMan | hmmmmm... anybody haxxxing me? my "a" all just turned into alphas:| |
| 11:56.40 | phh | froyo, eclair_chocolate, eclair_coffee, froyo_damon or something like that |
| 11:56.41 | phh | one of those :p |
| 11:56.45 | phh | anyway I don't think they've changed |
| 11:57.24 | DuperMan | brb |
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| 11:57.41 | manusfreedom | phh: thanks :) |
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| 11:59.07 | DuperMan | heh. font cache got corrupt(?!). in my winbox:| |
| 11:59.45 | Mavy | DuperMan: Win* nuff said |
| 12:00.10 | DuperMan | :S I don't hate on the win kernel. it's mostly benign:P |
| 12:01.18 | DuperMan | btw, baterry up to 33.6c with otterbox case suffocating my hd2.:) still a cool degree chillier than before |
| 12:01.40 | DuperMan | and battery consumption "feels" nicer |
| 12:01.52 | DuperMan | will take testing to pointlessly verify though, so I won't |
| 12:01.57 | Mavy | tempted to make the move to the fullram image now :P |
| 12:02.14 | DuperMan | Mavy: DO. |
| 12:02.32 | Mavy | already downloaded the SO files :) |
| 12:02.52 | DuperMan | bbl. time to eat and dungeon hunt. great game:) |
| 12:02.58 | danibjor | to run the fullram image, do I need to alter anything other than the startup.txt ram addresses? |
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| 12:05.00 | adioph | how to run neocore? |
| 12:05.25 | DuperMan | adioph: get from market |
| 12:05.27 | DuperMan | run |
| 12:05.56 | adioph | DuperMan: thanks. |
| 12:05.57 | DuperMan | danibjor: read the conversation. we just discussed how to get rid of the artifacts (phh's solution) |
| 12:06.53 | theredundant | hey fellas, i've exported tools in $PATH |
| 12:06.58 | theredundant | but says adb unknown command |
| 12:07.18 | phh | theredundant: adb shell plop ? |
| 12:07.21 | phh | not just adb plop |
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| 12:07.27 | DuperMan | just read cotulla's latest post in the discussion thread, and while I'm just blowing air since I lack the know-how to make one myself, and auto-reporting tool that'll upload kernel logs to a dev's joint server could be nice |
| 12:07.33 | Mavy | reboot :D |
| 12:07.50 | theredundant | $ adb logcat |
| 12:07.50 | theredundant | No command 'adb' found, did you mean: |
| 12:07.52 | Mavy | pray for me :) |
| 12:08.08 | DuperMan | prays to almighty shoggoth |
| 12:08.24 | Mavy | booting |
| 12:08.47 | DuperMan | prepare to be joyed |
| 12:08.51 | theredundant | echo $PATH shows the folder where adb is present |
| 12:09.29 | Mavy | DuperMan if this failes you will be cursed by my mighty tux :D |
| 12:09.43 | DuperMan | been cursed by worse:) |
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| 12:09.56 | Jack-E | :S can't install neocore |
| 12:10.00 | theredundant | i entered path, and did adb |
| 12:10.02 | theredundant | still nothing |
| 12:10.02 | DuperMan | restarting my own hd2 just for kicks:P |
| 12:10.04 | theredundant | but ./adb works |
| 12:10.22 | Mavy | looks ok so far |
| 12:10.24 | DuperMan | Jack-E: unmount the sd card from settings sd and storage, then install |
| 12:10.27 | DuperMan | then remount |
| 12:10.29 | Jack-E | mmk |
| 12:11.06 | Mavy | sigh. using adb to push the zImage is a no go :P |
| 12:11.16 | theredundant | boot winmo |
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| 12:11.56 | Jack-E | great -,- not enough space to install this item |
| 12:11.59 | Mavy | just hope these so files are ok :) |
| 12:12.10 | DuperMan | o/t, love how 384mb ram and above smooths out the kinks bt had |
| 12:12.27 | DuperMan | hmmmm... kill sumthing:P |
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| 12:13.21 | DuperMan | phew. glad the superstitious testing of mine shown the fullram holds upon second boot:) |
| 12:13.34 | DuperMan | how's it going Mavy? |
| 12:14.26 | Mavy | i used adb to push the zImage so it did not boot into the new one |
| 12:14.26 | Mavy | was wortha try :P |
| 12:14.42 | Mavy | trying to get this fail Win7 to detect my phone now |
| 12:15.07 | theredundant | win7 is good |
| 12:15.08 | DuperMan | hmmmm... wasn't really. could've used a file manager in android or just copied over, it's (the zimage) is in the standard sd "partition" |
| 12:15.09 | theredundant | i love it |
| 12:15.09 | DuperMan | :P |
| 12:15.25 | Mavy | Thats what i did Duper |
| 12:15.26 | DuperMan | Mavy: automount:) |
| 12:15.30 | Mavy | adb push to the sdcard |
| 12:15.38 | Mavy | did not work |
| 12:15.45 | Mavy | trying to figure out why now :) |
| 12:15.48 | DuperMan | hmmmm... adb probably overcomplicated stuff. should've went for copy paste |
| 12:15.50 | DuperMan | :) |
| 12:15.55 | DuperMan | gave wrong perms or whatever |
| 12:17.01 | elgrego | DuperMan: Now i cant boot gets stuck after the android logo and when it hangs. Can i fix it without a fresh install? |
| 12:18.04 | DuperMan | elgrego: sounds like you forgot to chmod 777 - copy system.ext2 back into the android folder on your sd |
| 12:18.06 | DuperMan | and try again:) |
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| 12:18.28 | DuperMan | (doing so undoes any changes you made to /system) |
| 12:18.47 | DuperMan | (is "undoes" a word?) |
| 12:18.49 | elgrego | bollocks its at home :( nevermind |
| 12:19.12 | DuperMan | meh. get androzip from market and redownload the build:D |
| 12:19.28 | Mavy | duper can you run free |
| 12:19.29 | DuperMan | (androzip is a sweet compression tool that does rar on android) |
| 12:19.31 | Mavy | in terminal |
| 12:19.43 | DuperMan | free? what do you mean? like, su mode? |
| 12:19.52 | Mavy | free is a command |
| 12:19.56 | Mavy | it prints memory info |
| 12:20.03 | DuperMan | hmmm... sure, just a sec. |
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| 12:20.23 | tester_ | apt forget |
| 12:20.26 | tester_ | apt forget Cotulla |
| 12:20.26 | apt | tester_: i forgot cotulla |
| 12:20.33 | tester_ | Cotulla is a n00b |
| 12:20.40 | tester_ | apt: Cotulla is a n00b |
| 12:20.41 | apt | okay, tester_ |
| 12:20.43 | DuperMan | copying it: |
| 12:20.56 | DuperMan | mem: 393064 378660 14404 0 152 |
| 12:21.03 | DuperMan | swap: 0 0 0 |
| 12:21.07 | elgrego | If it works i hope darkstone adds it to froyostone |
| 12:21.13 | tester_ | apt forget everything |
| 12:21.13 | apt | i didn't have anything called 'everything' to forget, tester_ |
| 12:21.16 | DuperMan | total: 393064 378660 14404 |
| 12:21.16 | Mavy | thatnks Duper :D |
| 12:21.20 | tester_ | apt forget all |
| 12:21.20 | apt | i didn't have anything called 'all' to forget, tester_ |
| 12:21.24 | DuperMan | np:) |
| 12:21.32 | Mavy | looks like it worked afterall :D |
| 12:21.38 | Mavy | as i am on the same now |
| 12:21.42 | Mavy | just expected more ram :D |
| 12:22.34 | DuperMan | :D hmmmm... who was it what said 128mb is mauled outta touch by winmo? summady did earlier |
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| 12:23.31 | DuperMan | still, accounting for the 64mb vid ram it's a 448 |
| 12:23.49 | Mavy | actually i think the rest is beeing used by gpu |
| 12:23.59 | DuperMan | noway. 192mb vid ram? |
| 12:24.00 | DuperMan | lol |
| 12:24.05 | Mavy | true |
| 12:24.07 | DuperMan | beats an 5500 nvidia |
| 12:24.11 | DuperMan | :D |
| 12:24.22 | Mavy | doubt windwows is still blocking stuff tho. as harret will unload ram |
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| 12:25.06 | DuperMan | heck. if that's true I'll happily lives with 192mb vid ram and 384 sys ram |
| 12:25.18 | Mavy | running quadrant for third time :D |
| 12:25.29 | Mavy | 1467 :) |
| 12:25.30 | DuperMan | ^^ score/build? my best was a 1313 |
| 12:25.36 | DuperMan | a sure sign of good luck :P |
| 12:25.59 | Mavy | im on mattc 1.5 |
| 12:26.04 | DuperMan | odd... me too |
| 12:26.10 | DuperMan | sd class? mine's a 32gb class 2 |
| 12:26.18 | DuperMan | which I love and respect |
| 12:26.20 | DuperMan | :P |
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| 12:26.36 | Mavy | im on a stock 8gb |
| 12:27.07 | DuperMan | hmmmm... Marx had it right! it's all about the segregation of the classes! |
| 12:27.09 | DuperMan | :D |
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| 12:27.59 | Jack-E | apt say :P |
| 12:28.00 | apt | :P |
| 12:28.09 | Jack-E | meh |
| 12:29.25 | Mavy | rebooting now to make sure it stays ok :P |
| 12:29.40 | elgrego | the 2 files that were replaced are on the ext2 file? |
| 12:29.41 | DuperMan | lol... did that already, worx |
| 12:29.49 | DuperMan | elgrego: yup |
| 12:30.09 | DuperMan | replacing it gave me a whitescreen first boot, but worked fine after |
| 12:30.47 | elgrego | any app on the pc that i can use to sort my cock up? cant wait til i get home to sort it out |
| 12:31.25 | DuperMan | elgrego: I suppose you could mount the image with any linux build running on the pc or in a virtual machine |
| 12:31.31 | DuperMan | and apply the chmod there |
| 12:32.38 | elgrego | no chance of a torrent of your patched one? ppppplease |
| 12:33.02 | DuperMan | lol... dunno mate, my upload's probably slower than your workday |
| 12:33.04 | DuperMan | :D |
| 12:33.24 | DuperMan | that and I'm paranoid about my private stuffs being logged in it |
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| 12:33.59 | Jack-E | epic |
| 12:34.00 | elgrego | im actually busy but have no focus at.........all lol |
| 12:34.01 | Jack-E | 1542 |
| 12:34.05 | Jack-E | in quadrant |
| 12:34.07 | DuperMan | DAMN |
| 12:34.10 | DuperMan | specs??? |
| 12:34.13 | Jack-E | class 2 |
| 12:34.16 | Jack-E | ;P |
| 12:34.26 | DuperMan | :)hate mine now |
| 12:34.27 | Jack-E | in zegos still |
| 12:34.28 | DuperMan | lol |
| 12:34.30 | Jack-E | love this build |
| 12:34.31 | Jack-E | XD |
| 12:34.44 | DuperMan | oh... gonna give that zeg a go next upgrade season |
| 12:34.56 | dcordes | - Please join #htc-linux-chat for offtopic and discussion about builds |
| 12:35.07 | elgrego | i need darkstone to apply to his build |
| 12:35.16 | DuperMan | sorry dcordes. will do. |
| 12:35.56 | DuperMan | elgrego - no rush:) ain't that big a difference from the 384 zimage |
| 12:36.02 | DuperMan | ;) |
| 12:36.21 | elgrego | grrrr, i want more power scotty |
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| 12:37.06 | DuperMan | I'm an amateur damnit, not a kernel guro! |
| 12:37.13 | DuperMan | lol. bbl, EAT |
| 12:38.38 | Jack-E | good idea |
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| 12:47.39 | [ad] | ist away (bye) |
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| 13:17.08 | maricsmith | gentlemen. |
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| 13:17.37 | gauner1986 | hey guys |
| 13:17.41 | ElBartoME | hi |
| 13:17.46 | dan1j3l | ello |
| 13:17.47 | Jack-E | good morrow |
| 13:18.18 | ElBartoME | anybody knows if manusfreedom did a diff for his full ram kernel? |
| 13:18.29 | ElBartoME | *did make |
| 13:18.40 | dan1j3l | gauner: u created liblights ? |
| 13:19.03 | gauner1986 | dan1j3l: i'm on it |
| 13:19.22 | gauner1986 | dan1j3l: but kernel support is not yet done |
| 13:19.25 | dcordes | ElBartoME: there is the patch for 300 something meg ram (enables second bank) on mailing list (and in git history) |
| 13:20.10 | manusfreedom | ElBartoME: no |
| 13:20.33 | dan1j3l | gauner: i created quick and dirty liblights, if u want u can take a look http://pastebin.com/iBZUHFHs |
| 13:20.39 | ElBartoME | okay |
| 13:20.48 | manusfreedom | ElBartoME: when I use full ram with actual pmem driver it's not stable too much white screen |
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| 13:21.45 | manusfreedom | ElBartoME: if I use a new driver, we get line corruption (but solved with new lib .so), but wen need normally to update all mdp driver... to be updtodate with pmem |
| 13:22.06 | manusfreedom | -n |
| 13:22.10 | gauner1986 | dan1j3l: okay.. looking at it |
| 13:23.00 | ElBartoME | manusfreedom: what about codeaurora? |
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| 13:23.58 | manusfreedom | ElBartoME: I am on it, but not easy for me... |
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| 13:26.59 | ElBartoME | i would help if i could. unfortunately i am not that expirienced |
| 13:27.20 | manusfreedom | ElBartoME: me too, but I try ;) |
| 13:30.07 | gauner1986 | dan1j3l: looking good at first sight :) - lights.h states that blinking blue could be converted into blinking green.. so we could change that.. and i guess overcharge detection and low battery is missing. but that's pretty much it? :) |
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| 13:35.53 | dan1j3l | gauner1986: yes, i will work more on it later, this is 15 minute work so it can be done much better... :D |
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| 14:11.54 | ElBartoME | hm, using the gralloc and copybits files from phh seems to fix the artifacts for me...using the fullram kernel for 45minutes. |
| 14:12.05 | ElBartoME | also no whitescreen |
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| 14:12.21 | gauner1986 | hm |
| 14:12.27 | ElBartoME | manusfreedom_: you get my pm? |
| 14:12.32 | ElBartoME | *got |
| 14:13.40 | danibjor | wtf, how do you read the contents of ramconsole.txt when activating logging? |
| 14:14.28 | elgrego | ElBartoME: what build are you using? |
| 14:14.51 | johnb81 | is there any solution for low in call volume |
| 14:15.16 | ElBartoME | shu8i's build |
| 14:16.31 | elgrego | I tried this morning but only one of the files would copy and now my froyostone doesnt work :( |
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| 14:17.44 | kAmMa | does anybody get the usb or wifi tether running ? |
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| 14:21.34 | DuperMan | elgrego:can't you set an ubuntu virtual box at work? |
| 14:22.42 | elgrego | no my work pc is locked down like alcatraz :( |
| 14:23.15 | DuperMan | shame... still recommend you downloading and unraring the system.ext2 at work from the winmo if you can spare the time |
| 14:23.18 | gauner1986 | time to hack your way into it |
| 14:23.18 | gauner1986 | ;) |
| 14:24.09 | DuperMan | :D ssh the buggah! |
| 14:24.40 | ElBartoME | with fullram the menu is so smooth :D |
| 14:25.05 | gauner1986 | manusfreedom_: what are the current problems with fullram? |
| 14:25.27 | krat0s | ElBartoME did you have to delete those old gralloc and copybit files first or just overwrite them? |
| 14:25.40 | ElBartoME | delete them and then copy the new ones |
| 14:25.55 | ElBartoME | gauner1986: afaik whitescreens and artifacts |
| 14:26.22 | krat0s | ElBartoME: mind giving me the commands?? if it's ok |
| 14:26.30 | krat0s | new on this linux.. sorry |
| 14:26.31 | DuperMan | ElBartoME: didn't have a single artifact since phh's fix |
| 14:26.37 | ElBartoME | i didn't use commands |
| 14:26.47 | DuperMan | neither a whitescreen except for when misapplying them:S |
| 14:26.55 | ElBartoME | i mounted the system.img in linux and edited it |
| 14:27.16 | ElBartoME | gauner1986: i didn't even get the gralloc errors anymore |
| 14:27.19 | krat0s | ElBartoME: ahhhhhh.. that's smart |
| 14:27.38 | gauner1986 | sounds good |
| 14:27.39 | krat0s | uggghhh i don't have vm installed on my pc |
| 14:28.12 | DuperMan | krat0s: get virtual box |
| 14:28.14 | DuperMan | freeware |
| 14:28.16 | DuperMan | from sun |
| 14:28.19 | DuperMan | works a treat |
| 14:28.25 | krat0s | wait.. i think i have ubuntu disc.. i'll just run it live from cd |
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| 14:28.55 | DuperMan | it's like 20 minutes to download:P |
| 14:28.58 | DuperMan | lol |
| 14:29.08 | krat0s | what is? |
| 14:29.13 | DuperMan | ubuntu |
| 14:29.33 | DuperMan | I was just thinking... you guys know of a decent vm runner for android? I feel like making a puppy linux vm:D |
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| 14:29.38 | DuperMan | like, to run on the hd2:D |
| 14:29.42 | krat0s | ohh that's cool..i have a 3MB download.. not megabits, megabytes.. :D |
| 14:30.11 | DuperMan | >< and here I was thinking 20 minutes per 600mb was good |
| 14:30.13 | DuperMan | :'( |
| 14:30.45 | ElBartoME | that's slow :P |
| 14:30.56 | DuperMan | lol. I live in a desert |
| 14:31.04 | DuperMan | literally |
| 14:31.05 | krat0s | yup.. that's slow |
| 14:31.05 | krat0s | lol |
| 14:31.13 | ElBartoME | i live in a small town :D |
| 14:31.18 | fakker | me too |
| 14:31.22 | gauner1986 | me too |
| 14:31.25 | DuperMan | small town=plenty o' free band |
| 14:31.25 | fakker | market town |
| 14:31.26 | gauner1986 | and internet sucks here |
| 14:31.27 | DuperMan | :D |
| 14:31.29 | DuperMan | oh. sux |
| 14:31.32 | fakker | my internet is good |
| 14:31.32 | fakker | ;] |
| 14:31.41 | fakker | i work for an isp - and i dont even use their internet |
| 14:31.44 | DuperMan | well mine's small town+desert+asia |
| 14:31.44 | fakker | because it's shite |
| 14:31.45 | DuperMan | :P |
| 14:31.50 | ElBartoME | but i can get a connection up to 32mbit. but it's too expensive :D |
| 14:31.51 | gauner1986 | yeah.. there are places with good internet in this town.. but i live at the bad side |
| 14:31.52 | gauner1986 | T_T |
| 14:32.00 | fakker | ElBartoME, how much? |
| 14:32.00 | ElBartoME | i use 20mbit instead |
| 14:32.03 | DuperMan | lol@the bad side o' town |
| 14:32.13 | ElBartoME | 32mbit -> 35 |
| 14:32.16 | fakker | gauner1986, wrong side of the railway line |
| 14:32.16 | DuperMan | $$$ |
| 14:32.18 | DuperMan | ? |
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| 14:32.20 | fakker | thats not bad |
| 14:32.24 | fakker | i pay ?35 for 50mb |
| 14:32.26 | gauner1986 | 35 |
| 14:32.28 | ElBartoME | yes, it's okay |
| 14:32.29 | krat0s | ElBartoME: here too.. i can get 50Mb connection.. but quite expensive |
| 14:32.29 | gauner1986 | that's nice |
| 14:32.40 | ElBartoME | well, the keyword is cable internet |
| 14:32.45 | fakker | yes, mine is cable too |
| 14:32.46 | fakker | ;] |
| 14:32.47 | DuperMan | I pay like 20$ for 10/768 |
| 14:32.49 | DuperMan | :/ |
| 14:32.52 | DuperMan | could be 1024 now |
| 14:32.53 | fakker | the isp i work for is adsl+ |
| 14:32.57 | DuperMan | but suredon't feel like it |
| 14:33.03 | krat0s | that's exactly what i got.. cable :D |
| 14:33.09 | ElBartoME | if i would use the shitty phonecable, i only could use 384kbit/s |
| 14:33.13 | ElBartoME | it's ridiculous |
| 14:33.15 | DuperMan | talkin' 'bout kbit o'course |
| 14:33.43 | DuperMan | my upstream makes puppies cry:( |
| 14:33.49 | krat0s | lol |
| 14:33.56 | fakker | mine kills puppies |
| 14:34.11 | gauner1986 | elbartome: what are you using then? tv cable? |
| 14:34.15 | DuperMan | mine used to kill kittens, and the kittens in turn weren't there to eat the cockroaches |
| 14:34.16 | DuperMan | suckd |
| 14:34.26 | DuperMan | enough o/t though |
| 14:34.27 | ElBartoME | yes, tv cable |
| 14:34.36 | ElBartoME | cheaper and faster |
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| 14:35.17 | DuperMan | soooooo... any news on them nifty oc/uc kernels? Linpack leaderboards are chockful of snapdragons running at 1.2ghz |
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| 14:35.31 | DuperMan | ***oc/uv |
| 14:35.44 | elgrego | Is there any app in winmo that could edit the files? |
| 14:36.24 | DuperMan | elgrego: probably not. your best bet is either redownloading the rls and extracting system.ext2 or mounting the current system.ext2 in a linux virtual machine |
| 14:36.49 | DuperMan | or getting an ssh client, you might be able to ssh into your phone if the network connects |
| 14:36.57 | DuperMan | slim chance though |
| 14:37.16 | elgrego | i used ssh on my iphone |
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| 14:37.56 | elgrego | would i still need to do all that 777 stuff or just swap the files? |
| 14:38.13 | DuperMan | try letting the phone boot into android, and after like a minute of it not starting the gui after the bootspalsh screen look it up on your net |
| 14:38.27 | DuperMan | I'll do the 777 stuff just in case, really |
| 14:38.47 | DuperMan | but essentially you can "ls -l" and if the copied files are -rwxrwxrwx you're golden |
| 14:38.55 | DuperMan | no need to chmod 777 |
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| 14:39.10 | elgrego | talk about learning the hard way |
| 14:39.15 | DuperMan | lol |
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| 14:39.33 | DuperMan | ain't that bad. you type something twice, remember it for life |
| 14:39.50 | elgrego | twice im on 6! |
| 14:40.05 | DuperMan | so remember it already you stoner!>< |
| 14:40.09 | DuperMan | rofl |
| 14:41.01 | DuperMan | all outta love honest. I have freakishly good memory, can pretty much remember a phone number after reading it three times... if I careabout it that is |
| 14:42.53 | johnb81 | guys is there a fix for low in call volume? |
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| 14:43.54 | F-D | ello, great work on the artifacts phh: just removed the existing files and pushed the new ones. works great |
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| 14:46.21 | gauner1986 | hey cotulla |
| 14:46.22 | gauner1986 | :) |
| 14:46.35 | krat0s | ElBartoME: would you mind giving me your startup on the full ram kernel? |
| 14:46.36 | DuperMan | omgomgomgomg autograph my face Cotulla!!!! :D |
| 14:46.39 | DuperMan | YOU ROCK |
| 14:46.39 | theredundant | damn, how long does repo sync take |
| 14:46.45 | theredundant | been on for 1hr 40mins |
| 14:46.51 | elgrego | how come everyone but me is doing this? |
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| 14:47.59 | Cotulla | hey, gauner1986 |
| 14:48.09 | Cotulla | any news? |
| 14:48.40 | gauner1986 | cotulla: dan1j3l made a quick n dirty liblights.. i think you can use that for initial testing. needs some additional work though |
| 14:48.43 | gauner1986 | cotulla: http://pastebin.com/iBZUHFHs |
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| 14:49.36 | F-D_ | not sure grego: all i did was: adb shell <enter> cd /system/lib/hw <enter> rm gralloc.qsd8k.so <enter> rm gralloc.default.so <enter> rm copybit.so <enter> |
| 14:49.49 | F-D_ | then exit adb shell and push the 2 new files to /system/lib/hw |
| 14:50.09 | F-D_ | didnt need to remount on darkstones new clean build |
| 14:50.43 | Cotulla | gauner1986, where binary? |
| 14:50.57 | gauner1986 | cotulla: if you want i'll compile it |
| 14:52.32 | Cotulla | pls |
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| 14:55.06 | manusfreedom_ | phh: did you compile .so from source? |
| 14:56.17 | gauner1986 | check pm |
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| 15:02.41 | elgrego | F-D: any chance you could upload it? I'm on a mission to get it |
| 15:03.47 | elgrego | found this would it work? http://www.fs-driver.org/ |
| 15:04.05 | F-D | what would i have to upload ? |
| 15:04.12 | F-D | rootfs i presume..# |
| 15:05.40 | elgrego | I thought they are in the ext2 file? |
| 15:05.56 | F-D | hm, that would take forever to upload :( |
| 15:09.07 | elgrego | oh never mind, I'll make do with the touchscreen glitchy 384 instead :( |
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| 15:12.01 | dan1j3l | back again |
| 15:12.08 | gauner1986 | re dan |
| 15:12.27 | dan1j3l | any news |
| 15:12.39 | gauner1986 | cotulla is trying your liblights :P |
| 15:12.52 | dan1j3l | ok |
| 15:13.17 | tiro_bsc | need some info about android on htc hd 2 with dual boot...if somebody have few minutes and can help pls write me a PVT MSG |
| 15:14.00 | LordDeath | some day will we see OTA updates for the android builds on the HD2? |
| 15:14.38 | Cotulla | dan1j3l, yes. nice work! |
| 15:14.55 | dan1j3l | cotulla: is it working ? |
| 15:15.05 | Cotulla | not yet tested wait |
| 15:15.15 | dan1j3l | ok :P |
| 15:15.56 | tiro_bsc | how long does it tako after this STEP |
| 15:15.57 | tiro_bsc | - After u have done all steps go into Android folder and tap CLRCAD (for working sound), and after that just tap HaRET. |
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| 15:16.33 | fakker | tiro_bsc, try #htc-linux-chat |
| 15:16.56 | tiro_bsc | thx sorry for disturbing |
| 15:16.58 | tiro_bsc | :D |
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| 15:19.07 | MrGrateful | Just wanted to say thanks to all, especially zego - this was posted through a windows pc wifi-tethered through Android thanks to your earlier kernel/.ko :-) |
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| 15:28.51 | phh | manusfreedom_: yes |
| 15:29.26 | slayerns | phh, have you fixed full ram issue for leo? |
| 15:29.35 | phh | I've no leo. |
| 15:29.36 | phh | again. |
| 15:29.43 | slayerns | i know but people say so |
| 15:29.44 | gauner1986 | :D |
| 15:29.49 | Jack-E | yeah |
| 15:29.56 | slayerns | they say phh solved full ram issue |
| 15:29.57 | Jack-E | it appears that he has |
| 15:30.03 | phh | wout |
| 15:30.04 | phh | I rox. |
| 15:30.07 | slayerns | :D |
| 15:30.10 | Jack-E | lol |
| 15:30.12 | manusfreedom_ | phh: I need all android sources to compile? |
| 15:30.12 | F-D | weewt |
| 15:30.18 | Jack-E | and it is now a lot faster |
| 15:30.22 | phh | manusfreedom_: yes |
| 15:30.29 | phh | manusfreedom_: but not necessarly CA's android |
| 15:30.32 | phh | any android is fine |
| 15:30.34 | gauner1986 | manusfreedom_: yes.. i can also compile sth for you if you want to test |
| 15:30.34 | manusfreedom_ | phh: :( thanls |
| 15:30.52 | phh | anyway it works, why would you want to build it uh ? :p |
| 15:31.03 | manusfreedom_ | phh: to use lastest... |
| 15:31.12 | phh | fair enough |
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| 15:31.13 | manusfreedom_ | I like lastest thiongs :) |
| 15:31.17 | manusfreedom_ | -o |
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| 15:37.47 | dan1j3l | is cloning codeaurora passion git |
| 15:37.58 | phh | errr |
| 15:38.03 | phh | I'm not sure the passion tree is a good idea |
| 15:38.15 | dan1j3l | why ? |
| 15:38.37 | daeda1us | hehehe, passion tree |
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| 15:39.10 | phh | dan1j3l: It could be just a copy of google's tree I'm not sure |
| 15:39.54 | dan1j3l | hmmm.., ok, thnx |
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| 15:50.50 | elgrego | manusfreedom_: could your full ram zimage be fixed without having to patch the ext2 file? |
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| 15:54.17 | gauner1986 | cotulla: is liblights doing what it's supposed to do? ^^ |
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| 15:58.58 | Cotulla | fixing audio bug |
| 15:59.09 | gauner1986 | what's wrong with audio? |
| 16:00.19 | F-D | elgrego: 30 mins eta on upload - btw its for froyostone clean |
| 16:00.52 | phh | try codeaurora's libaudio ? XD |
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| 16:02.11 | elgrego | F-D: I'll have to get it in the morning got to take the missus to docs |
| 16:02.16 | eddy | anyone there? |
| 16:02.26 | phh | eddy: no |
| 16:02.30 | eddy | lol |
| 16:06.52 | dan1j3l | manusfreedom_: do u have patch for full ram? i have enabled full ram on my tree but there is very bad 3d performance |
| 16:10.58 | NeoFlux | dan1j3l: when you making a new build? :) |
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| 16:12.30 | dan1j3l | NeoFlux: don't know... working on one, but it's far from completed... |
| 16:13.07 | ElBartoME | funny, using the copybits and gralloc files from phh with the 384 kernel causes artifacts |
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| 16:14.50 | dan1j3l | : 37.078 MFLOPS on froyo with sense :D |
| 16:14.50 | xUmaRix | any android devices that have hdmi out excpet evo and droid incredible ? |
| 16:14.51 | manusfreedom_ | ElBartoME: normal, because it use an old pmem |
| 16:15.01 | ElBartoME | ah okay |
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| 16:16.07 | slayerns | who has full memory update to push it to git? |
| 16:16.23 | ALoGeNo | loo all |
| 16:16.36 | slayerns | wat? |
| 16:17.40 | NeoFlux | dan1j3l: ? What was the previous scores? |
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| 16:17.54 | phh | [acl]: just to say, concerning flash to nand. I've been the whole day on trying to flash my phone |
| 16:17.57 | phh | and I still haven't succeeded. |
| 16:18.00 | phh | (and I really mean flash |
| 16:18.04 | phh | like any WM rom) |
| 16:18.41 | phh | and now I find there are RUU tools for linux |
| 16:18.42 | phh | OKAY. |
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| 16:19.26 | phh | ah no I think I'd already tried it. |
| 16:19.36 | [acl] | phh: we tried yesterday but not full flash. just to see where the kernel poops out |
| 16:19.48 | phh | [acl]: I can't even flash a simple WM ROM :( |
| 16:20.25 | [acl] | phh: no good. |
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| 16:23.24 | [acl] | phh: one day ill bother learning all that flashing crap. i'm afraid to use any windows apps since i dont run windows natively. I dont know how virtualbox handles all that stuff |
| 16:23.47 | phh | well qemu handles it bad -_-' |
| 16:25.11 | manusfreedom_ | anyone can confirm me that the leo don't have stacked memory? |
| 16:25.22 | phh | ??? |
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| 16:25.26 | phh | I'm pretty sure it does have |
| 16:25.34 | manusfreedom_ | ha ok... |
| 16:25.42 | NeoFlux | manusfreedom_: why? :P |
| 16:25.43 | gauner1986 | stacked memory? |
| 16:25.54 | phh | gauner1986: I've still no clue what it is :D |
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| 16:25.58 | phh | but there are two types of RAM |
| 16:26.00 | phh | SMI and EBI |
| 16:26.01 | gauner1986 | :D |
| 16:26.11 | phh | SMI is more or less integrated in the SoC |
| 16:26.14 | phh | while EBI is a bit more separated |
| 16:26.29 | phh | SMI is said to be fastser |
| 16:26.33 | phh | faster* |
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| 16:31.05 | StummeJ | k |
| 16:32.21 | NeoFlux | dan1j3l: I only score about 32 on linpack :( |
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| 16:32.39 | NeoFlux | and 1172 on Quadrant :( |
| 16:32.59 | kvap | where do i get ElBartoME's newest zImage? |
| 16:35.14 | NeoFlux | dan1j3l: whats the quadrant score like? :) |
| 16:35.19 | manusfreedom_ | phh & gauner1986: because it's a new option in codeaurora kernel |
| 16:35.34 | phh | new ? |
| 16:35.36 | phh | lol it's not new |
| 16:35.42 | phh | oh well |
| 16:35.46 | phh | new compared to google stuff? |
| 16:35.47 | phh | right. |
| 16:35.51 | gauner1986 | :D |
| 16:36.17 | phh | if you compare CA to google, CA is always newer |
| 16:36.20 | phh | by far |
| 16:37.27 | xUmaRix | i 2nd that |
| 16:37.36 | xUmaRix | CA is always ahead |
| 16:38.07 | xUmaRix | phh liquid dont have hdmi out ? |
| 16:38.12 | phh | no |
| 16:38.19 | F-D | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:38.36 | phh | lol ? |
| 16:38.41 | dan1j3l | ? |
| 16:38.41 | phh | funny one |
| 16:38.46 | F-D | elgrego wanted it |
| 16:38.58 | F-D | so he didnt have to push the files i think |
| 16:39.49 | phh | I mean the artefacts on 384 kernel |
| 16:40.26 | F-D | ah, i dont know for sure but it was posted in here not so long ago by someone. manus said it was due to some memory config i think |
| 16:40.43 | F-D | <manusfreedom_> ElBartoME: normal, because it use an old pmem |
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| 16:42.55 | gauner1986 | manusfreedom_: do you have a patch for the fullmem thingy? |
| 16:43.42 | NeoFlux | F-D: What's the changes of that image working for Darkstones V1 Froyo build? |
| 16:44.08 | NeoFlux | chances* |
| 16:44.14 | F-D | no idea.. try it |
| 16:44.15 | F-D | :) |
| 16:44.19 | NeoFlux | lols, oki |
| 16:44.27 | NeoFlux | F-D: include Wifi driver? |
| 16:44.55 | F-D | its darkstones froyostone clean one.. includes all his did and now the fix for no artifacts |
| 16:45.09 | NeoFlux | interesting |
| 16:45.29 | NeoFlux | I thought the original release of froyostone was quite sluggish with the 384 image |
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| 16:47.18 | Hunterkll | hihi |
| 16:47.50 | Hunterkll | i got on without issue |
| 16:47.51 | Hunterkll | yay |
| 16:48.11 | Hunterkll | Darwin Seto-Kaibas-iMac.local 10.2.0 Darwin Kernel Version 10.2.0: Tue Nov 17 01:24:40 EST 2009; annappirtrvh v2:xnu-1486.2.11/BUILD/obj/RELEASE_I386 i386 i386 |
| 16:48.18 | Hunterkll | :) lol @ name |
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| 16:57.02 | Hunterkll | [acl]: I have used compaq flashing tools on vmware |
| 16:57.18 | Hunterkll | seems to handle direct usb traffic well |
| 16:57.41 | [acl] | Hunterkll: awesome.. makes me feel confident that i wont destroy my phone |
| 16:57.59 | [acl] | Hunterkll: any idea on virtual box? |
| 16:58.00 | Hunterkll | oh hell |
| 16:58.04 | Hunterkll | never used it |
| 16:58.14 | Hunterkll | vmware thru and thru ;) |
| 16:59.01 | Hunterkll | but you will never trash the phonr |
| 16:59.05 | [acl] | dang.. too much work to install vmware .. or im just too lazy |
| 16:59.10 | Hunterkll | flashing will never kick you out of spl permenantly :) |
| 16:59.55 | Hunterkll | i hope... : |
| 17:00.04 | Hunterkll | Unless you aim to replace spl??? |
| 17:00.37 | Hunterkll | [acl]: If flashing will not work, it will fail before even wiping anything, i think. |
| 17:00.59 | Hunterkll | only problem i see is device changing and virtualbox losing grip... only during reboot to spl |
| 17:01.07 | Hunterkll | boot up in spl should help fix that |
| 17:01.21 | Hunterkll | or does virtualbox have 'snag all usb traffic period' option? |
| 17:01.28 | Ninpo | phh: I got that governor working properly, found out why it was being a shit in 2.6.29 |
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| 17:04.16 | Hunterkll | ali1234: did some asking, gnome compiled 5 years ago should 100% run on newer kernel in the 'will execute' sense... userspace kernel ABI "never" changes |
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| 17:04.52 | Hunterkll | aka you can upgrade a 2.4 sys to 2.6 kernel without much userspace mods |
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| 17:05.23 | Hunterkll | only support for major changes such as /dev to udev etc. old pkgs will "still run 100%" |
| 17:05.47 | fakker | apt x ru en ÄÎÑÂÈÄÀÍÈÅ |
| 17:06.10 | fakker | apt x en ru goodbye |
| 17:07.16 | ZoNeP1 | hello |
| 17:07.21 | Cotulla | apt say hello |
| 17:07.22 | apt | hello |
| 17:07.40 | Hunterkll | all leo devs. we should make 1 android build 100% legit and only support that build |
| 17:07.46 | Hunterkll | (aka no sense etc. :P ) |
| 17:08.03 | ZoNeP1 | any way to increas sound volume in froyostone w/scence |
| 17:08.54 | Hunterkll | dont use sense :P |
| 17:09.01 | Hunterkll | and wait for kernel fixes |
| 17:09.04 | ZoNeP1 | why |
| 17:09.07 | fakker | apt x ru en ìíå ïî õóé |
| 17:09.07 | Hunterkll | not userspace issue |
| 17:09.23 | Cotulla | fakker, LOL |
| 17:09.24 | Cotulla | :D |
| 17:09.30 | Hunterkll | zonep1: your mother would not approve of illegal software piracy :D :D :P |
| 17:09.41 | gauner1986 | mine does |
| 17:09.42 | ZoNeP1 | it does |
| 17:09.45 | gauner1986 | :) |
| 17:09.47 | Hunterkll | :P |
| 17:09.50 | ZoNeP1 | *sh |
| 17:10.01 | Hunterkll | anyway |
| 17:10.11 | Hunterkll | volume issues are kernel driver issues afaik |
| 17:10.11 | ZoNeP1 | so no fix? |
| 17:10.29 | Hunterkll | best you can do is use other android "builds" or wait for new image |
| 17:10.36 | ZoNeP1 | i am in full ram |
| 17:10.39 | Hunterkll | some people report others as louder |
| 17:10.46 | ZoNeP1 | with phh fix |
| 17:11.06 | Hunterkll | phh why you fix leo all the time even though yo don't have one? |
| 17:11.08 | Hunterkll | :P |
| 17:11.30 | Hunterkll | should hold back so we have weird problem all time so you rhod people can stop crying |
| 17:11.30 | ZoNeP1 | he fix screen gliture |
| 17:12.16 | phh | Hunterkll: perhaps someone will give me a HD2 ? :p |
| 17:12.20 | Hunterkll | i know, i just find it funny he's working on device that has no sound or hw3d yet :P |
| 17:12.31 | Hunterkll | and helping leo leapfrog the shit out of him :P |
| 17:12.38 | ZoNeP1 | i will but iam so far |
| 17:12.48 | Hunterkll | ? |
| 17:13.05 | gauner1986 | hm |
| 17:13.05 | ElBartoME | nee immer noch net |
| 17:13.13 | ElBartoME | fuck xD wrong windows xD |
| 17:13.17 | ElBartoME | *window |
| 17:13.17 | gauner1986 | darkstones froyo also has the no carrier problem |
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| 17:13.23 | gauner1986 | ppp doesnt work |
| 17:13.24 | gauner1986 | :( |
| 17:14.26 | Hunterkll | lol |
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| 17:27.14 | Hunterkll | who want to make stock android for leo ota updatable and all that jazz? :P |
| 17:27.28 | phh | stock android for leo ? |
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| 17:27.32 | phh | that sounds weird. |
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| 17:27.58 | Hunterkll | phh: as in from google source no htc bs :P |
| 17:28.10 | phh | yeah. google is bs too |
| 17:28.13 | Hunterkll | and with working OTA update mechanisim |
| 17:28.20 | Hunterkll | lol, yes, but they are android original |
| 17:28.31 | phh | not for drivers |
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| 17:29.23 | Hunterkll | i talk about android userspace |
| 17:29.29 | Hunterkll | not kernel |
| 17:29.41 | phh | me too. |
| 17:29.57 | phh | you haven't read the ""full ram artifact fix"" thing ? |
| 17:29.57 | Hunterkll | ? |
| 17:30.10 | Hunterkll | not that far in logs |
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| 17:30.49 | phh | use copybit/gralloc from CA, not google. |
| 17:30.57 | Hunterkll | lol |
| 17:31.02 | Hunterkll | figures |
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| 17:31.18 | Hunterkll | ca about everything |
| 17:31.29 | Hunterkll | google bout ground up for android devices |
| 17:32.03 | Hunterkll | so makes sense really |
| 17:32.29 | Hunterkll | probably google take ca chanes because they better for device overall .. performance etc |
| 17:33.08 | phh | chanes ? |
| 17:33.16 | Hunterkll | chnges |
| 17:33.17 | phh | google doesn't take codeaurora's stuff |
| 17:33.18 | Hunterkll | ... |
| 17:33.19 | phh | that's the point. |
| 17:33.24 | Hunterkll | i have one hand |
| 17:33.27 | Hunterkll | why not? |
| 17:33.30 | phh | or they do months late |
| 17:33.34 | Hunterkll | oh |
| 17:33.48 | Hunterkll | because they software release house and not bleeding edge |
| 17:34.14 | dcordes | hi |
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| 17:34.46 | Hunterkll | hi |
| 17:35.07 | Hunterkll | cotulla: for skinned ubuntu clone look at christian linux :P |
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| 17:37.30 | ZoNeP1 | so no fix for volume in full ram |
| 17:37.43 | Hunterkll | no yet |
| 17:37.45 | Hunterkll | is wip |
| 17:37.54 | phh | I love your development mess ... |
| 17:37.57 | phh | every kernel has different features |
| 17:38.03 | Hunterkll | phh lol |
| 17:38.18 | ZoNeP1 | something is better than nothing |
| 17:38.23 | phh | one dy you'll have a kernel that do 1080p playback without withouot support. |
| 17:38.25 | phh | day* |
| 17:38.37 | phh | and it was a wifi |
| 17:38.41 | Hunterkll | lol |
| 17:38.41 | phh | not witouot. |
| 17:38.41 | Hunterkll | ? |
| 17:38.45 | Hunterkll | lol |
| 17:38.52 | Hunterkll | i will make |
| 17:38.55 | Hunterkll | hdmi out |
| 17:39.03 | Hunterkll | but sacrifice gsm support |
| 17:39.04 | phh | one day you'll have a kernel that do 1080p playback without wifi support. |
| 17:39.05 | phh | there. |
| 17:39.14 | ZoNeP1 | lol |
| 17:39.16 | phh | Hunterkll: ok, I can give you the sacrifice gsm part |
| 17:39.21 | Hunterkll | :P |
| 17:39.29 | Hunterkll | 'claims' hdmi support :P |
| 17:39.42 | phh | but leo is hdmi capable ? |
| 17:39.47 | Hunterkll | duno |
| 17:39.50 | Hunterkll | dont care |
| 17:39.53 | phh | ah. |
| 17:40.07 | Hunterkll | just want to see idiots buy cable when i say 'hdmi kernel features compiled in' |
| 17:40.08 | Hunterkll | :P |
| 17:40.18 | phh | :)) |
| 17:40.38 | Hunterkll | maybe i start dropship cable business first lol |
| 17:40.39 | Hunterkll | :P |
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| 17:42.19 | dcordes | phh: you guys release xdandroid build scripts under a license ? |
| 17:42.33 | phh | dcordes: I've been wondering |
| 17:42.40 | phh | (I'm not the one who takes care of that) |
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| 17:42.48 | phh | I think we specify a licence in gitorious |
| 17:43.00 | ala380 | zego: any eta on your build? |
| 17:43.07 | phh | http://gitorious.org/xdandroid-eclair |
| 17:43.09 | phh | GPLv3 on the right |
| 17:43.24 | phh | but that's not really true, since we have no owner ship for most of those things ... |
| 17:43.24 | dcordes | phh: awesome |
| 17:43.38 | dcordes | phh: I will look into it. planning heavy stealing. |
| 17:44.07 | zego | <ala380> maybe tomorrow |
| 17:44.27 | ala380 | awesome, looking forward to it :) |
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| 17:50.15 | ali1234 | Hunterkll: actually i'm pretty sure we tracked the problem to a change in the power_supply class between 2.6.31 (which the gnome version was compiled for) and 2.6.32 (which is the kernel used) |
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| 17:55.51 | Hunterkll | ali1234: note my "will" and "should" in quotes :P |
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| 17:56.13 | Hunterkll | 2.6 breaks kernel dev standards |
| 17:56.24 | Hunterkll | 2.6 as of like ... 2.6.8 should have been 2.7 |
| 17:56.40 | ali1234 | Hunterkll: "will execute" was never a problem. it did execute, it just could not read from the /sysfs nodes, as they had the wrong names |
| 17:57.00 | Hunterkll | and execution is all abi is... sigh |
| 17:57.02 | Hunterkll | stupid people |
| 17:57.12 | Hunterkll | angers at andrew morton :( |
| 17:57.16 | Hunterkll | and others |
| 17:57.31 | Hunterkll | why is this shit not in 2.7? breaking stuff goes in odd kernel vers |
| 17:57.41 | Hunterkll | even vers are supposed to be stable... |
| 17:58.14 | ali1234 | linux has never guaranteed a stable abi. |
| 17:58.31 | ali1234 | and abi is more than just executable format. it also covers how system calls are supposed to work |
| 17:58.34 | Mavy | Hunterkll why do you think mr torvalds himself left the mailing lists :P |
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| 18:00.09 | Mavy | i still dont get why they made such a massive change in the middle of a minor release |
| 18:00.38 | ali1234 | you know there is never going to be a 2.7 right? |
| 18:01.16 | Mavy | yep. its gonne be 2.6.109423874321946213467 |
| 18:01.28 | Mavy | before they decide to move on |
| 18:01.32 | ali1234 | yes. you might as well just forget the 2.6 part even exists |
| 18:01.32 | phh | I think at some point they'll have to change there release number scheme. |
| 18:01.58 | Mavy | they might make it Hex. |
| 18:02.03 | Mavy | but nothing more will change |
| 18:02.34 | Cotulla | they can stop touching kernel and instead developing nice user friendly programs |
| 18:02.35 | Cotulla | :P |
| 18:02.59 | Mavy | shhh hes here |
| 18:03.13 | fakker | :) |
| 18:03.47 | Mavy | i have a uestion Cotulla. do you know why i cant pass the i2c_bus=0,400 command to the kernel? |
| 18:04.09 | Cotulla | u think I know what is it? what means 0,400? is 400 speed? |
| 18:04.12 | phh | I don't think you can control msm's i2c bus speed from there :p |
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| 18:04.21 | Hunterkll | cotulla when you adopt full memory fixes :o |
| 18:04.27 | fakker | Cotulla ÿ ëþáëþ òåáÿ |
| 18:04.32 | Mavy | its supposed to set the i2c with id 0 to 400khz |
| 18:04.33 | phh | Cotulla: people reports "lag" of TS when gsensors is on, it's most likely because I2C bus is overrun no ? |
| 18:04.36 | Cotulla | WTF fakker :D |
| 18:04.37 | Dr`Ryder | Cotulla. |
| 18:04.39 | fakker | lol |
| 18:04.41 | Mavy | instead of 100khz |
| 18:04.45 | Dr`Ryder | Is there a password on your new zImage? |
| 18:04.47 | Hunterkll | Mavy: Mr torvalds still controls the kernel |
| 18:05.08 | Cotulla | anyway I think problem in i2c code |
| 18:05.19 | Cotulla | maybe it should be fully redone for leo |
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| 18:05.22 | Mavy | Hunterkll: last i read he stopped activly supporting it. |
| 18:05.23 | phh | lol ? |
| 18:05.33 | Hunterkll | supporting the kernel? |
| 18:05.34 | Mavy | phh you where right about the i2c speed |
| 18:05.36 | Mavy | 0.041919] msm_i2c_probe: clk_ctl 35d, 100000 Hz |
| 18:05.49 | Hunterkll | he is the yes/no man about things submitted to main kernel git |
| 18:05.53 | Hunterkll | he is the decider |
| 18:05.55 | Dr`Ryder | Cotulla: Password for http://cotulla.pp.ru/leo/Android/Cotulla_zImage_SND_START_CALL_FIX.rar |
| 18:06.00 | Mavy | fair enough |
| 18:06.05 | Hunterkll | dr`ryder: no pw |
| 18:06.08 | Hunterkll | download again |
| 18:06.11 | Hunterkll | possible corruption |
| 18:06.11 | Dr`Ryder | It is passworded. |
| 18:06.14 | Dr`Ryder | No corruption. |
| 18:06.20 | Hunterkll | then how did i just open it w/o pw? |
| 18:06.23 | Dr`Ryder | Multiple people reported password protection. |
| 18:06.25 | Hunterkll | i just downloaded it moments ago |
| 18:06.25 | ala380 | no password |
| 18:06.28 | phh | Mavy: *total guess* |
| 18:06.34 | phh | Mavy: edit drivers/i2c/busses/i2c-msm.c |
| 18:06.37 | Jack-E | ooh |
| 18:06.38 | Mavy | phh lies. |
| 18:06.40 | phh | search for target_clk |
| 18:06.40 | Dr`Ryder | Enter password for encrypted file. |
| 18:06.42 | Mavy | checked that |
| 18:06.42 | Jack-E | i just tried it |
| 18:06.47 | Jack-E | it does have one |
| 18:06.48 | phh | Mavy: ok. |
| 18:06.49 | Hunterkll | wtf |
| 18:06.54 | phh | target_clk = 400000; doesn't help ? |
| 18:06.56 | Jack-E | however i got it a few days ago |
| 18:06.58 | Hunterkll | it extracted once w/o pw |
| 18:06.59 | Hunterkll | lol |
| 18:07.00 | Jack-E | and there wasn't one |
| 18:07.06 | Cotulla | it was special image for one tester, who report problem about audio. |
| 18:07.11 | Hunterkll | dr`ryder perhaps he does not want regular users using it : |
| 18:07.14 | Hunterkll | :) |
| 18:07.16 | Cotulla | removed. |
| 18:07.18 | Dr`Ryder | Obviously. |
| 18:07.24 | Jack-E | lol |
| 18:07.27 | Hunterkll | cotulla: pw all of them. ;P |
| 18:07.36 | Jack-E | XD |
| 18:07.39 | fakker | that would be insane, image all the messages |
| 18:07.39 | Cotulla | we talked with dcordes this morning |
| 18:08.01 | Cotulla | and he say about binray zImages |
| 18:08.04 | Cotulla | he is right |
| 18:08.08 | Jack-E | yeah |
| 18:08.25 | Hunterkll | cotulla: binary zimages are "technically" a gpl violation, but without testing where can you go? |
| 18:08.30 | Mavy | phh drivers/i2c/busses/i2c-msm.c does not set speed. just clk |
| 18:08.44 | phh | Mavy: isn't speed proportionnal to clock ? |
| 18:08.53 | Cotulla | Hunterkll, yes, but htc also violating it? |
| 18:09.02 | Cotulla | they release sources later after device release |
| 18:09.07 | Hunterkll | cotulla: I put technically in quotes |
| 18:09.09 | Cotulla | even few weeks, right? |
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| 18:09.23 | Hunterkll | as in, it's not really a violation i'd ever consider worrying about |
| 18:09.29 | ali1234 | technically you don't have to release source until someone actually asks for it |
| 18:09.38 | Mavy | dont think so as they get set without a relation to ech other in arch/arm/plat-omap/i2c.c |
| 18:09.39 | Hunterkll | as long as compliance is in a reasonable timeframe, i wouldn't care |
| 18:10.11 | Cotulla | agree. |
| 18:10.13 | Hunterkll | i see cotulla's actions as compliant, myself |
| 18:10.25 | Hunterkll | as do many other organizations and companies heh |
| 18:10.44 | Cotulla | Hunterkll, just I got other ideas |
| 18:10.49 | Hunterkll | oh? |
| 18:11.05 | Hunterkll | you about personal repo idea? |
| 18:11.09 | Cotulla | I think this kernel have unknown future |
| 18:11.15 | Cotulla | as well as unknown source |
| 18:11.36 | Cotulla | I decided to download htc bravo 2.6.29 and port all stuffs to it |
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| 18:11.59 | Hunterkll | .29? |
| 18:12.02 | Cotulla | yes. |
| 18:12.02 | Hunterkll | could be problem |
| 18:12.11 | Hunterkll | if 99% work on .32.. |
| 18:12.11 | Cotulla | :D |
| 18:12.17 | Hunterkll | you make nightmare for me |
| 18:12.18 | Hunterkll | :'( |
| 18:12.28 | Cotulla | I tried to port some stuffs from 29 to 32 |
| 18:12.30 | Cotulla | :( |
| 18:12.31 | Hunterkll | any idea about i2c bus resets? |
| 18:12.43 | Mavy | thinks Cotulla is high |
| 18:13.05 | Cotulla | i2c? |
| 18:13.11 | Cotulla | microp cause problems |
| 18:13.41 | Hunterkll | oh |
| 18:13.43 | Hunterkll | is spammy? |
| 18:14.02 | Hunterkll | i get bad ts issues to point of unusable :( |
| 18:14.04 | Cotulla | it just cause busy states |
| 18:14.11 | Cotulla | ts also on i2c |
| 18:14.14 | Cotulla | so it's not working |
| 18:14.17 | Cotulla | when it do reset |
| 18:14.25 | Hunterkll | ignore microp state? |
| 18:14.37 | Hunterkll | why i2c want to reset so much |
| 18:14.49 | Cotulla | because microp cause problems |
| 18:14.55 | Cotulla | it make bus busy seems |
| 18:14.58 | Cotulla | and then it go to reset |
| 18:15.00 | Hunterkll | wtf |
| 18:15.00 | Cotulla | few secs |
| 18:15.18 | Hunterkll | i confused |
| 18:15.56 | Cotulla | u think me not? |
| 18:16.02 | Hunterkll | no, i think you too |
| 18:16.06 | Hunterkll | it just make no sense to me |
| 18:16.14 | Hunterkll | fuck htc |
| 18:16.16 | Hunterkll | >:3 |
| 18:16.33 | Mavy | hmm Hunterkll hes right |
| 18:16.36 | Mavy | msm_i2c msm_i2c.0: error, status 63c8 errors |
| 18:16.41 | Mavy | when i move the device |
| 18:16.43 | Hunterkll | i know he is |
| 18:16.46 | Mavy | but not when its still |
| 18:16.46 | Hunterkll | .... gsensor |
| 18:16.49 | Hunterkll | when no gsensor |
| 18:16.51 | Hunterkll | it work? |
| 18:17.07 | Hunterkll | disable gsensor possible in userspace? |
| 18:17.13 | Mavy | people on forum have said when turning the autorotate off it appears to be ok |
| 18:17.23 | Hunterkll | oh |
| 18:17.28 | Mavy | i think its the autorotate that is polling to much |
| 18:17.32 | Hunterkll | so allowed to have it, just not constant polling |
| 18:17.33 | Hunterkll | hrm |
| 18:17.38 | Hunterkll | shgould not be polling 'too muxh' |
| 18:17.54 | Hunterkll | no such thing imo. should be queued in this situation |
| 18:18.09 | Mavy | does the gsensor not set an event of some sort when rotated 90 deg? |
| 18:18.24 | Hunterkll | i do not know |
| 18:18.55 | Cotulla | ok it's time to refactoring - move stuffs from microp.c |
| 18:19.02 | Hunterkll | yes |
| 18:19.07 | Hunterkll | many printks plz |
| 18:19.22 | Cotulla | proximity to -prox.c and lsensor to -ls.c |
| 18:20.53 | Mavy | microp the gsensor? |
| 18:21.41 | Cotulla | gsensor connected to microp |
| 18:22.14 | Mavy | im trying to find the /sys/devices forlder for the gsensor |
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| 18:35.08 | Hunterkll | dcordes: is git up to date wrt ram layout? |
| 18:36.45 | dcordes | Hunterkll: check the log |
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| 18:37.14 | dcordes | Hunterkll: if you want to supply a patch use mailing list or pastebin it here and I will take care |
| 18:37.26 | dcordes | Hunterkll: optionally request commit access |
| 18:40.06 | Hunterkll | ohh |
| 18:40.16 | Hunterkll | potential offer of commit access |
| 18:40.20 | Hunterkll | ;) |
| 18:40.30 | Hunterkll | i must be good at pretending to be a computer user ! |
| 18:41.02 | Hunterkll | dcordes: I forgot about shortlog when i asked.... i have delicious schnapps ;) |
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| 18:43.23 | dcordes | Hunterkll: everybody can request the commit access |
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| 18:43.54 | Cali03 | hi all |
| 18:43.58 | dcordes | Hunterkll: also see the mailing list for manus' patch that adds more mem |
| 18:44.14 | Cali03 | someone have some times for help me with my Leo? |
| 18:44.20 | phh | no. |
| 18:44.37 | dcordes | http://lists.linuxtogo.org/pipermail/mobile-linux-discuss/2010-August/000159.html |
| 18:45.06 | dcordes | Hunterkll: unfortunately it is not and isolated diff that only adds the extra mem but it |
| 18:45.37 | dcordes | Hunterkll: adds the entire cotulla tree changes plus mem diff. you might ask manusfreedom_ to supply the isolated diff to apply on git HEAD (current git revision) |
| 18:45.42 | dcordes | Cali03: don't ask to ask just ask |
| 18:45.52 | Cali03 | ok |
| 18:45.57 | Cali03 | i want change my radio |
| 18:46.03 | dcordes | Cali03: and if you want phh to answer you must buy him a hd2 first |
| 18:46.12 | phh | -_-' |
| 18:46.21 | dcordes | Cali03: ok this is something to look up on http://forum.xda-developers.com |
| 18:46.33 | Cali03 | i know this web site |
| 18:46.36 | dcordes | Cali03: it is not directly related to linux development |
| 18:46.47 | Cali03 | but too much info i am lost i don't find a simple how to |
| 18:46.55 | dcordes | Cali03: I will find you a link |
| 18:47.12 | Cali03 | i want update the radio |
| 18:47.18 | Cali03 | for try ubuntu on my hd2 |
| 18:47.37 | Cali03 | i have SPL-2.08 |
| 18:48.01 | dcordes | Cali03: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=611787 |
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| 18:48.13 | dcordes | Cali03: what is your current radio version ? |
| 18:48.26 | dcordes | Cali03: you need 2.08 + radio version to use linux on hd2 |
| 18:49.13 | Cali03 | well |
| 18:49.22 | Cali03 | when phone start |
| 18:49.31 | Cali03 | R 2.07.51.22 |
| 18:50.16 | shu8i | dcordes: included tree and everything else in first post |
| 18:51.10 | Cali03 | i can't use HSPL because i am in SPL-2.0.8 |
| 18:51.27 | dcordes | Cali03: ok ask on the forum |
| 18:51.34 | dcordes | Cali03: or #xda-devs |
| 18:51.40 | dcordes | Cali03: but they are usually rude with noobs |
| 18:51.47 | dcordes | so I really recommend asking on xda |
| 18:51.48 | Cali03 | hehehe |
| 18:51.50 | Cali03 | ok |
| 18:51.54 | Cali03 | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:51.59 | Cali03 | thanks for your time |
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| 18:52.37 | Hunterkll | cali |
| 18:52.38 | xUmaRix | is acer stream out yet? it have hdmi out |
| 18:52.49 | Hunterkll | spl-2.0.8 iirc is supported? O./o |
| 18:53.06 | Hunterkll | or is it 2.8 |
| 18:53.24 | dcordes | shu8i: you have to understand that you are violating the GPL if you can provide the _exact_ source code used. i.e. if you have some zImage that e.g. enables extra ram, and you don't have an extra ram patch you are not allowed to provide that zImage |
| 18:54.03 | Cotulla | u again start? :D |
| 18:54.31 | Cotulla | dcordes, http://gpl-violations.org |
| 18:55.04 | ElBartoME | dcordes: ? |
| 18:55.08 | ElBartoME | the tree is online |
| 18:56.09 | Cotulla | err, <license-violation@gnu.org> |
| 18:56.16 | dcordes | Cotulla: of course. it is my new hobby |
| 18:56.29 | Cotulla | really? |
| 18:56.33 | dcordes | Cotulla: you don't need to address them. it is suffcient if people give the code when you ask for it. |
| 18:56.48 | dcordes | Cotulla: which seems to work. |
| 18:56.52 | Cotulla | but they have services... why u should waste ur time? |
| 18:57.28 | dcordes | Cotulla: again. it is not necessary to contact such instances when people provide the source code upon request. |
| 18:57.44 | Cotulla | ok ok |
| 18:59.08 | shu8i | dcordes: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=7434822&postcount=1 Quote: ElBartoME 2.6.32.9 #7 Kernel: |
| 18:59.08 | shu8i | Tree | zImage | Wifi Module | Readme |
| 18:59.27 | dcordes | shu8i: perfect |
| 19:03.35 | [acl] | phh: ive been away from xda for a while.. im seeing all these new builds.. |
| 19:03.42 | phh | [acl]: same here |
| 19:04.06 | shu8i | phh: youve an hd2? |
| 19:04.26 | dcordes | bbl |
| 19:06.51 | phh | shu8i: no |
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| 19:21.16 | Hunterkll | 4. Soft Reset your device then using a File Manager goto your Storage Card, Android folder and run clrad.exe (it wont do anything but it has run) followed by haret.exe (do this within 30 seconds of your phone booting into Windows Mobile) |
| 19:21.16 | Hunterkll | llol within 30 seconds |
| 19:21.26 | Refuge | there's no readme with the new zimage? |
| 19:22.24 | [ad] | ist away (bye) |
| 19:22.37 | Hunterkll | there is a p too :o |
| 19:22.39 | Hunterkll | pw |
| 19:27.47 | Hunterkll | manusfreedom_: nopc means no power collapse right? |
| 19:28.01 | manusfreedom_ | yes |
| 19:28.32 | Hunterkll | kk |
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| 19:28.59 | Hunterkll | your aug 5th bcm ko run with aug 7th fullram? |
| 19:29.18 | manusfreedom_ | yes normally |
| 19:29.22 | Hunterkll | ok |
| 19:29.30 | Hunterkll | ohh wosd :P |
| 19:29.35 | Hunterkll | wsod even |
| 19:30.05 | manusfreedom_ | after kernel log or just after haret? |
| 19:30.09 | Hunterkll | having trouble getting aught up on ation now bak from va |
| 19:30.18 | Hunterkll | right after jump to kernel |
| 19:30.26 | manusfreedom_ | ok so retry |
| 19:30.26 | Hunterkll | i know of phh's fix |
| 19:30.32 | Hunterkll | yes, agreed ;) |
| 19:30.48 | Hunterkll | ffxi needs to install faster :( |
| 19:30.48 | manusfreedom_ | not for just after haret |
| 19:31.30 | Hunterkll | wsod again |
| 19:31.39 | Hunterkll | 'jumping to kernel' than death |
| 19:33.02 | Hunterkll | brb more scnapps |
| 19:35.02 | Hunterkll | manusfreedom_: 3rd try a carm i guess |
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| 19:35.07 | Hunterkll | carm |
| 19:35.17 | Hunterkll | chhhhhhhhhhharm |
| 19:35.22 | Hunterkll | :) |
| 19:35.32 | Hunterkll | ??????? |
| 19:35.37 | Hunterkll | damn kb |
| 19:35.46 | Hunterkll | wsod on android now :( |
| 19:39.40 | Hunterkll | okay |
| 19:39.44 | Hunterkll | can still see device |
| 19:39.47 | Hunterkll | adb wise |
| 19:39.53 | Hunterkll | i must be far behind :( |
| 19:39.57 | shu8i | hunterkill: -chat |
| 19:40.03 | Hunterkll | no. |
| 19:40.09 | Hunterkll | :) |
| 19:42.10 | maricsmith | ElBartoME I'm running shubcraft's latest withyour kernel#7 and the phone speaker volume is abit lower than i'd like. I was wondering if you incorporated the volume boost modification into that kernel. |
| 19:42.48 | ElBartoME | i'll look into it |
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| 19:43.31 | kaiba | why that happen, i do no know |
| 19:45.53 | maricsmith | ElBartoMe: thanks. |
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| 19:46.05 | Hunterkll | why is msmfb so retarded.... ugh |
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| 19:47.54 | Hunterkll | [ 0.000000] CPU: ARMv7 Processor [510f00f2] revision 2 (ARMv7), cr=10c53c7f |
| 19:48.09 | Hunterkll | why are we recognized as armv7 |
| 19:48.09 | Hunterkll | ? |
| 19:48.30 | Blizzzard | I thought snapdragon was armv7? |
| 19:48.40 | Hunterkll | i thought armv11 |
| 19:48.40 | maricsmith | i thought so as well. |
| 19:48.55 | Hunterkll | and the radio chip is arm9 |
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| 19:49.43 | Cotulla | wtf |
| 19:49.49 | Cotulla | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:49.51 | Hunterkll | lol |
| 19:49.58 | Hunterkll | zimage compiled for arm 7 |
| 19:49.59 | maricsmith | so i think your confused about arm versioning |
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| 19:50.10 | Hunterkll | without optimization for arm11 instructions |
| 19:50.19 | maricsmith | the current arm processor line is armv7 |
| 19:50.22 | Hunterkll | qsd is arm11 |
| 19:50.24 | Hunterkll | lol |
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| 19:50.48 | Cotulla | no it's more cortex based |
| 19:51.11 | Hunterkll | maricsmith: http://www.arm.com/products/processors/classic/arm11/index.php ??? |
| 19:51.36 | maricsmith | arm v7 is after arm11 |
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| 19:51.59 | Cotulla | it's different things |
| 19:52.05 | Cotulla | but usually arm1136 is armv6 |
| 19:52.10 | Hunterkll | Note: The ARM7 processor family (ARM7TDMI(S) and ARM7EJ-S) is not recommended for new designs. |
| 19:52.11 | maricsmith | arm 11 is the family designation |
| 19:52.19 | maricsmith | armv7 is the architecture version |
| 19:52.22 | Cotulla | ARM V7 |
| 19:52.25 | Cotulla | not ARM7 |
| 19:52.28 | maricsmith | armv7 belongs to the cortex family |
| 19:52.58 | maricsmith | snapdragon is an arm cortex v7-a architecture. |
| 19:53.20 | kAmMa | some one with latest manusfreedoms full zImage and working bluetooth headset ? |
| 19:53.49 | Ham3r | ARM7 and ARM V7 are different things, lol. |
| 19:53.50 | maricsmith | this probably shows it off the easiest. |
| 19:53.51 | maricsmith | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ARM_architecture |
| 19:54.03 | maricsmith | scroll to about the middle of the page. |
| 19:54.16 | Hunterkll | wtf |
| 19:54.17 | Cotulla | heh wiki... |
| 19:54.19 | Hunterkll | sorry |
| 19:54.23 | Cotulla | apt wiki arm |
| 19:54.28 | Hunterkll | my arm knowledge from pre-pxa days |
| 19:54.34 | Hunterkll | i must be out of date :P |
| 19:54.46 | maricsmith | they didn't do anyone a favor with the naming convention, thats for sure. |
| 19:54.50 | Hunterkll | ya |
| 19:54.57 | Hunterkll | pre-pxa days it did make sense though |
| 19:56.58 | Hunterkll | is a PA1110 dinosaur :( |
| 19:57.50 | Cotulla | lol? SA1110 maybe? |
| 19:57.56 | Hunterkll | .... |
| 19:57.58 | Hunterkll | :'( |
| 19:58.03 | Hunterkll | i am forgetful |
| 19:58.13 | Cotulla | StrongARM |
| 19:58.14 | Hunterkll | runs back to MIPS on his lovely O2 :( |
| 20:00.24 | Hunterkll | why i think ps |
| 20:00.25 | Hunterkll | pa |
| 20:00.35 | Hunterkll | must be mixing old palm part numbers |
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| 20:05.52 | Hunterkll | LOL Plan 9 is stll supported onnn ipaq |
| 20:06.42 | phh | oO |
| 20:06.46 | phh | wow |
| 20:07.03 | Hunterkll | :) |
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| 20:24.05 | maricsmith | what are all the components of the zimage? i know it contains the kernel is that all? |
| 20:25.24 | phh | yes |
| 20:26.58 | Hunterkll | is "just" gzipped kernel |
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| 20:36.32 | darkstone | hm dcordes, is there a reason why the 384MB ram option on git was reverted? |
| 20:36.58 | manusfreedom_ | darkstone: not stable I think... |
| 20:37.11 | darkstone | hum, okay :) |
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| 20:49.28 | LordDeath | strange |
| 20:49.52 | LordDeath | "failed to find rootfs on SD card" <-- but it is still there :-S |
| 20:50.01 | dcordes | hi again |
| 20:50.05 | dcordes | darkstone: it destroyed zImage |
| 20:50.19 | dcordes | darkstone: so you could only boot uncompressed Image |
| 20:50.44 | huggy_72 | reading log.... |
| 20:51.05 | darkstone | dcordes: ah ok |
| 20:51.19 | huggy_72 | apt Cotulla |
| 20:51.20 | apt | cotulla is probably a n00b |
| 20:51.31 | Hunterkll | lol |
| 20:51.35 | manusfreedom_ | dcordes: I will work on the patch (I have not successfully using full codeaurora) |
| 20:51.38 | LordDeath | I can't boot darkstones build anymore :( |
| 20:51.40 | huggy_72 | O_O |
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| 20:51.44 | Hunterkll | dcordes: someone fixed |
| 20:52.03 | Hunterkll | out of schnapps :( |
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| 20:52.37 | dcordes | darkstone: otherwise it worked very stable for me with a noticable boost of performance |
| 20:53.06 | dcordes | manusfreedom_: it would be nice to get it rebased on uptodate git with working zImage |
| 20:53.14 | LordDeath | [ 101.889880] ACR=3978 FL=1256 RAAC=88 |
| 20:53.26 | LordDeath | i am getting only things like this |
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| 20:53.55 | darkstone | dcordes: hm, no big issue to use Image instead of zImage |
| 20:54.02 | manusfreedom_ | dcordes: yes I am on it |
| 20:54.07 | darkstone | well, until the zimage bug is fixed |
| 20:54.12 | manusfreedom_ | and zImage works well |
| 20:54.31 | dcordes | manusfreedom_: nice |
| 20:55.26 | dcordes | darkstone: nobody is hindering you from reapplying the reverted patch. |
| 20:55.29 | manusfreedom_ | it's just I want 512MB too, and I am near it |
| 20:55.35 | darkstone | yup |
| 20:55.39 | dcordes | darkstone: (locally) |
| 20:55.42 | darkstone | im just doing it now actually :p |
| 20:56.11 | darkstone | though im in two minds about the undervolt code |
| 20:56.23 | darkstone | i think i'll just leave it |
| 20:56.33 | darkstone | don't want to risk bricking hd'2 |
| 20:56.37 | darkstone | hd2's* |
| 20:56.40 | dcordes | darkstone: install a watercooling |
| 20:56.44 | darkstone | xD |
| 20:57.04 | manusfreedom_ | darkstone: the zImage fix is easy: http://pastebin.com/kgfcnXVr |
| 20:57.19 | fakker | Cotulla ÿ ëþáëþ òåáÿ |
| 20:57.28 | darkstone | :D |
| 20:57.29 | darkstone | thx |
| 20:58.00 | manusfreedom_ | darkstone: it's for Makefile.boot |
| 20:58.37 | darkstone | changes |
| 20:59.00 | dcordes | manusfreedom_: if it works stable I think we can hardcode it enabled (no config option) |
| 21:00.08 | manusfreedom_ | ok you can for 384MB |
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| 21:02.39 | LordDeath | [09.08. - 22:53] <LordDeath> [ 101.889880] ACR=3978 FL=1256 RAAC=88 <-- now i get these messages sice 10 minutes |
| 21:02.56 | ElBartoME | that's battery status |
| 21:03.21 | LordDeath | so it won't boot... |
| 21:03.37 | darkstone | do you get untracked pid messages? |
| 21:04.06 | LordDeath | dont know |
| 21:04.19 | darkstone | what are you doing? |
| 21:04.25 | LordDeath | at first i deleted all old anrdoid files |
| 21:04.41 | ElBartoME | ~1550 score on quadrant with fullram. i guess that's pretty good. |
| 21:05.00 | LordDeath | then I unpacked your build froyostone v1 build on the SD and started it |
| 21:05.30 | LordDeath | after less than 5 minutes android was working and I used it for ~1-2 hours |
| 21:05.51 | LordDeath | then I used the power button to shut down android and used WM until now |
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| 21:06.04 | LordDeath | and your froyostone v1 wont boot anymore |
| 21:06.49 | Nuja | darkstone I still have the gmail/market no sync/connection problem with the same rom/radio as you :/ |
| 21:06.49 | darkstone | LordDeath: talk to me on #htc-linux-chat |
| 21:07.27 | darkstone | Nuja, may be problem with your provider |
| 21:07.39 | darkstone | in any case, this question doesnt belong here |
| 21:07.44 | darkstone | #htc-linux-chat |
| 21:07.45 | dcordes | ElBartoME: how does quadrant elevate this number ? |
| 21:07.47 | LordDeath | ok |
| 21:07.53 | dcordes | ElBartoME: what does it represent ? |
| 21:08.18 | ElBartoME | it does show the performance of the phone. cpu, ram, hw3d |
| 21:08.26 | darkstone | it works fine for me |
| 21:08.32 | darkstone | are you using 3g? |
| 21:08.42 | darkstone | oops |
| 21:08.55 | ElBartoME | leo is faster than the nexus one according to quadrant |
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| 21:09.57 | dcordes | manusfreedom_: how do you test stability ? |
| 21:10.22 | dcordes | manusfreedom_: on the mailing list I reported about a tool do test mem |
| 21:10.25 | dcordes | manusfreedom_: I used on leo |
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| 21:10.51 | manusfreedom_ | what tool? |
| 21:11.20 | manusfreedom_ | dcordes: the first simple test is to not get white or balck screen at boot... |
| 21:11.35 | dcordes | manusfreedom_: memtester I think I am looking it up |
| 21:12.50 | manusfreedom_ | dcordes: don't know why but I think I don't receive the mailing list... :( |
| 21:13.20 | dcordes | manusfreedom_: you can use the archives to confirm |
| 21:13.40 | Cali03 | hi |
| 21:13.40 | dcordes | http://lists.linuxtogo.org/pipermail/mobile-linux-discuss/ |
| 21:14.36 | Cali03 | wich android build i can use with jmz Android Dual-Boot for HD2 v4 |
| 21:15.18 | manusfreedom_ | dcordes: I confirm that I receive nothing... |
| 21:15.29 | Cali03 | this for example http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=747492? |
| 21:15.45 | dcordes | manusfreedom_: http://pyropus.ca/software/memtester/ |
| 21:15.49 | dcordes | manusfreedom_: I can compile it for you |
| 21:16.20 | manusfreedom_ | Yes thanks |
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| 21:17.21 | manusfreedom_ | I am already on the mailing list... and my password works... I don't understand... |
| 21:19.07 | dcordes | manusfreedom_: never came across that. only had the problem that my mails wouldn't arrive on the list cause my send address is different one than register address |
| 21:19.25 | dcordes | manusfreedom_: for you it's other way around right ? cause I have seen your mails on the list. |
| 21:20.03 | dcordes | maybe check your options. you are possibly in digest mode so you receive a badge of all mail instead of each one directly |
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| 21:21.37 | manusfreedom_ | dcordes: I check that... the last maiol I receive: android ril with pppd for leo 2010-08-05 |
| 21:25.20 | dcordes | manusfreedom_: then it's all good. that is also the last mail I received and the last mail in the archive |
| 21:25.47 | manusfreedom_ | ha ? |
| 21:25.53 | manusfreedom_ | my mistake so... |
| 21:26.35 | darkstone | hm, i want to try ppp data |
| 21:26.44 | darkstone | http://lists.linuxtogo.org/pipermail/mobile-linux-discuss/2010-August/000160.html |
| 21:26.49 | darkstone | i need to do this dont it |
| 21:26.51 | darkstone | i* |
| 21:27.18 | ElBartoME | the ril isn't that stable |
| 21:27.22 | ElBartoME | many crashes |
| 21:27.26 | darkstone | hm :/ |
| 21:27.33 | ElBartoME | i heard letama found another way |
| 21:27.37 | dcordes | yes |
| 21:27.47 | dcordes | using the normal closed ril |
| 21:27.52 | ElBartoME | right |
| 21:28.14 | darkstone | :o |
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| 21:28.29 | darkstone | i'll wait for that then |
| 21:30.17 | dan1j3l | back again |
| 21:34.45 | dcordes | manusfreedom_: I will link memtester statically so you can just throw it into your android and run it |
| 21:35.10 | dcordes | manusfreedom_: takes a while though. openembedded is busy |
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| 21:37.36 | Nion_ | chaps... is it possible to connect to ubuntu on leo over usb? Like ssh? |
| 21:38.23 | Nitefall | I had a quick question for anyone on here that might be abel to help me out then I can get out of your hair lol |
| 21:38.50 | Nion_ | Nitefall: have you asked in -chat first? |
| 21:39.05 | Nitefall | sorry I'm new to this irc.. |
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| 21:39.39 | Nitefall | oh ok I see at the top |
| 21:39.43 | Nitefall | ty ty sorry to bother |
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| 21:49.05 | NeoFlux_ | darkstone: Your Froyostone build works great with the full ram kernel |
| 21:50.00 | NeoFlux_ | and the replaced .so files phh recommended |
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| 21:52.05 | manusfreedom_ | NeoFlux_: never whitescreen at boot? |
| 21:52.52 | ElBartoME | still no whitescreens for me |
| 21:53.11 | Hunterkll | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:53.26 | Hunterkll | i got a few at first none now |
| 21:53.31 | Hunterkll | :/ |
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| 22:02.00 | stAv | is gone, autoaway/10m [l/on p/on] |
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| 22:16.00 | phh | someone for a little ASM question ? :) |
| 22:16.15 | phh | LDRMIA.W LR!, {R0-R3} |
| 22:16.27 | phh | it's equivalent to *LR=R0;LR+=2; |
| 22:16.27 | phh | *LR=R1;LR+=2; |
| 22:16.27 | phh | *LR=R2;LR+=2; |
| 22:16.27 | phh | *LR=R4;LR+=2; |
| 22:16.28 | phh | right ? |
| 22:17.26 | F-D | doh u broke it :p |
| 22:17.59 | phh | sure. |
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| 22:21.52 | fraWii | I was looking for a newer kernel than 2.6.25 for my kaiser... there is any work in progress already? |
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| 22:55.55 | fraWii | Hi... there is someone here? |
| 22:58.08 | NeoFlux | possibly someone in here, but only a possibility |
| 23:00.54 | fraWii | :P.. I was asking if there is any major problem on adjust the drivers for kaiser to build/compile on a newer kernel |
| 23:01.47 | fraWii | I'm downloading CM6 msm git and vogue linuxtogo... just to see what I can do... |
| 23:01.57 | NeoFlux | can't help you unfortunately |
| 23:02.00 | NeoFlux | pokes phh |
| 23:02.04 | NeoFlux | maybe you can help? |
| 23:03.00 | fraWii | It's just seems strange that no one didn't talk about it.. |
| 23:04.08 | fraWii | any Vogue/Kaiser/Polaris devs here ;) |
| 23:04.11 | fraWii | ? |
| 23:06.04 | dcordes | fraWii: it's an interesting question |
| 23:06.32 | dcordes | fraWii: I see two big problems |
| 23:06.56 | dcordes | fraWii: htc-vogue branch has a life of its own - far from any mainline kernel |
| 23:07.34 | dcordes | fraWii: and the platform is not support by google, n'either by qualcomm |
| 23:07.52 | dcordes | fraWii: with the result you won't find any newer kernel with msm7xxx (non-A) codebase |
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| 23:08.15 | dcordes | fraWii: visit the community page on our wiki |
| 23:08.27 | dcordes | fraWii: it has reference to the official msm mailing list |
| 23:09.04 | dcordes | fraWii: just describe the htc-vogue situation there and ask if there is any interest in your platform |
| 23:09.26 | Major_Sarcasm | apt: dcordes |
| 23:09.27 | apt | hmm... dcordes is a helpful chap |
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| 23:20.41 | fraWii | tanks... ok... I don't know right now,but it's so possible to do it.I will update in few hours... git it's almost done |
| 23:21.18 | fraWii | just a little time to lose.. :P |
| 23:21.26 | NeoFlux_ | bollocks |
| 23:21.35 | NeoFlux_ | someone running dan's latest froyo build? |
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| 23:25.48 | NeoFlux | phh: You there? |
| 23:26.08 | NeoFlux | or darkstone even? |
| 23:26.24 | fraWii | dcordes: thanks.. I'm following part of the wiki... |
| 23:28.03 | ElBartoME | anybody knows how to edit the initrd.gz? |
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| 23:36.54 | darkstone | http://pastebin.com/AKTdCs0k |
| 23:36.56 | darkstone | grr |
| 23:36.58 | darkstone | any ideas? |
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| 23:48.37 | brink | I just have one question, can you revert the project android back to windows mobile, I hate winmo, but just in case... |
| 23:48.50 | tmzt | ??? |
| 23:48.57 | brink | no sense? |
| 23:48.57 | tmzt | "project android"? |
| 23:49.03 | brink | yea, for the touch pro2 |
| 23:49.07 | brink | http://sites.google.com/site/androidport/irc-chat |
| 23:49.11 | brink | err |
| 23:49.21 | tmzt | anything you install is bootable with haret, it doesn't install anything |
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| 23:49.30 | tmzt | never heard of that site |
| 23:49.45 | brink | its android hacked to run on a touch pro 2 (a winmo phone) |
| 23:49.47 | tmzt | it doesn't install anything into flash, so your wm is what boots |
| 23:49.57 | tmzt | ok, I have tp2 as well |
| 23:50.17 | brink | ok, so it's fair to say it can't brick the phone |
| 23:50.23 | tmzt | we do the kernel development here, so we don't have familiarity with every different image |
| 23:50.26 | tmzt | right |
| 23:50.46 | brink | ok, I read the faq but oddly enough "can I go back" is not frequently asked :_ |
| 23:50.56 | brink | thanks :) |
| 23:52.32 | tmzt | we need to put that on the facebook page |
| 23:52.38 | tmzt | we don't have a TP2 faq yet |
| 23:52.43 | tmzt | facebook.com/HTCLinux |
| 23:53.16 | brink | awesome, thanks |
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| 23:54.49 | tmzt | I should probably work on some real documentation taht explains the process |
| 23:55.00 | tmzt | but people will still ask those kind of questions, which is fine |
| 23:55.04 | tmzt | but understanding is better |
