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| 00:01.09 | exco | good evening |
| 00:02.37 | cr2 | good night :) |
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| 00:08.53 | exco | if usb connect doesn't trigger any gpios in haret, how can I detect it? |
| 00:15.03 | tmzt | exco: what device? |
| 00:15.14 | tmzt | if it's non-A, have you looked at dzo's work? |
| 00:22.58 | exco | tmzt: sorry, was so focussed on haret |
| 00:23.25 | exco | device is a Polaris - MSM7200 |
| 00:23.33 | tmzt | right, non-A |
| 00:23.36 | exco | yes |
| 00:23.44 | tmzt | so you want to try dzo's new work in the vogue branch |
| 00:23.57 | tmzt | pola is kais without keyboard? |
| 00:24.06 | exco | ~ |
| 00:24.12 | tmzt | trying to remember, it's been a while |
| 00:24.16 | tmzt | polaris |
| 00:24.25 | tmzt | kaiser |
| 00:24.34 | exco | aka touch cruise |
| 00:24.47 | tmzt | yeah |
| 00:25.03 | exco | http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=specs&id=801 |
| 00:25.18 | exco | anyways - yes I want to make dzo's changes work |
| 00:25.31 | exco | currently trying to get charging working |
| 00:26.01 | exco | the thing is - on nike for example there's a gpio change when plugging in usb cable - but on polaris there isn't |
| 00:26.36 | exco | but that should be visible as gpio change, not cpld? |
| 00:27.57 | tmzt | well, it depends on how the ulpi stuff is configured I think |
| 00:28.00 | tmzt | or cpld |
| 00:28.24 | tmzt | cpld has it's own gpios from what I understand |
| 00:29.21 | exco | well I do get a cpld change ... trying right now to compile a kernel and see if that works - but I thought cpld was the software controlled stuff - and if so - there shouldn't be a change in linux when plugging the cable |
| 00:31.09 | tmzt | cpld is a piece of hardware in the phone |
| 00:31.42 | tmzt | what do you mean by software controlled? |
| 00:32.10 | exco | through drivers |
| 00:35.25 | exco | no osk is a pain |
| 00:40.57 | dcordes | maybe you can use usb net soon |
| 00:42.38 | exco | I'm trying to make it work |
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| 07:17.15 | tmzt | dzo: if you have some time (whenever) can you describe how to build libreference-ril modified with your patches? |
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| 08:33.09 | cr2 | hi kiozen |
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| 08:38.22 | kiozen | hi cr2 |
| 08:38.39 | kiozen | you are early this morning |
| 08:40.19 | cr2 | holidays :) |
| 08:40.44 | cr2 | i'm hacking on the s3c2443 navi |
| 08:41.04 | cr2 | it looks like a barebones config |
| 08:41.24 | cr2 | triton is probably the same |
| 08:41.46 | cr2 | can you convince somebody to run haret on it ? |
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| 08:47.11 | kiozen | cr2: hardly now anyone to have one |
| 08:48.17 | kiozen | cr2: did you try M? |
| 08:48.26 | kiozen | BabelO should have a new binary |
| 08:58.21 | cr2 | ok, let's wait for BabelO |
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| 09:04.00 | BabelO | i m here :) |
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| 09:11.31 | dzo | tmzt: just set up the android build as they describe, do . build/envsetup (somethig like that anyway), change to the reference-ril dir and do mm. |
| 09:11.57 | tmzt | ok, thanks |
| 09:12.07 | tmzt | I need to take out the audio stuff |
| 09:12.28 | tmzt | for raph800/500 |
| 09:12.53 | tmzt | the funny thing is if smd devs are mssing android boots fine |
| 09:13.15 | dzo | yes, audio shouldn't be there, there's another shared lib for that but it's easier to put it in the ril, only thing that doesn't work is speakerphone. |
| 09:13.20 | tmzt | but if they are there ril shuts down the service and zygote reboots |
| 09:14.36 | dzo | it needs to write to /sys/class/vogue/something or other, put that in and it may work. |
| 09:15.16 | dzo | look at my vogue-hw.c and try to copy that. |
| 09:15.44 | tmzt | it's rpc I think, not proc-comm |
| 09:16.13 | tmzt | waiting for maejrep to be unbusy so we can work on rpc servers/handshake |
| 09:16.14 | dzo | probably, i do rpc for 7200 and proc_comm for 7500 |
| 09:16.30 | tmzt | this is 7500A and 7501A |
| 09:16.35 | dzo | I bet the rpc is the same, |
| 09:16.42 | tmzt | yeah maybe |
| 09:16.50 | tmzt | will have to try that |
| 09:18.01 | dzo | it's simple, 0x30000002 |
| 09:18.11 | dzo | with a few parameters |
| 09:18.55 | tmzt | I should say, with SMD-7500 (based on vogue) it turns off my phone |
| 09:19.05 | tmzt | and panics raph800s |
| 09:19.16 | tmzt | no idea how that's even possible |
| 09:19.38 | dzo | yes, but the rpc is only done for 7200 (kaiser) |
| 09:20.14 | tmzt | I don't have the sysfs entries so it should fail to write |
| 09:20.18 | dzo | and doing a bad proc_comm will easily cause a9 to reboot. |
| 09:20.20 | tmzt | not turn off the phone |
| 09:20.39 | tmzt | that could be it |
| 09:20.47 | dzo | do you have working rpc? |
| 09:21.04 | tmzt | if there's something else it's writing to that does proc-comm |
| 09:22.29 | tmzt | that's |
| 09:22.32 | dzo | I don't think so. I'll just check... |
| 09:22.40 | tmzt | working rpc? |
| 09:23.16 | tmzt | I just don't see how a userspace program could turn off the phone without a kernel interface to proc-comm or rpc |
| 09:25.39 | dzo | perhaps an at command, are you sure the a9 has not crashed. is your mmap correct because on kaiser a9 uses 16M of ram in the middle somewhere. |
| 09:26.21 | dzo | some radios let it carry on but amss has crashed and when you try to do anything the prone will reboot. |
| 09:26.38 | dzo | s/prone/phone/ |
| 09:27.34 | tmzt | what mmap |
| 09:27.42 | tmzt | oh, mem map |
| 09:28.01 | tmzt | no, I'm using raph800 kernel/mtype |
| 09:28.19 | tmzt | pmemmap or dump * in haret would help? |
| 09:28.49 | dzo | yes but do you have all 128M available? vogue does but kaiser doesn't. |
| 09:29.04 | tmzt | internal is 64mb |
| 09:29.18 | tmzt | total 192 I think |
| 09:29.20 | dzo | when is the raph fb in physical memory. |
| 09:29.23 | tmzt | hold on |
| 09:29.34 | dzo | s/when/where/ |
| 09:29.36 | cr2 | dzo: amss on raph100 uses the top of 128M block |
| 09:29.38 | tmzt | must be same as raph800 because fb works |
| 09:30.01 | cr2 | 192 means 128M sdram + 64M sram |
| 09:30.09 | dzo | yes |
| 09:30.29 | cr2 | raph100 has 128sdram+128Msdram+32sram |
| 09:30.45 | dzo | cr2: on kaiser it uses 16M at the end of the first 64M |
| 09:30.57 | tmzt | windows reports 192mb ram size |
| 09:31.05 | cr2 | dzo: yes. more of less the same on raph100 |
| 09:31.10 | cr2 | dzo: just x2 |
| 09:31.11 | dzo | vogue and kaiser have 128M+32M too |
| 09:31.57 | dzo | i got usb working on 7x00 now. |
| 09:32.06 | dzo | very differemt to 7x00a |
| 09:32.09 | cr2 | dzo: great |
| 09:32.13 | tmzt | somebody was trying polaris |
| 09:32.23 | tmzt | didn't get net to work |
| 09:32.25 | cr2 | dzo: we need working rpc for gps |
| 09:32.51 | cr2 | dzo: i've disassembled everything that goes, but rpc is the only available interface for gps ;) |
| 09:32.53 | dzo | yes, but i think the gps rpc is fairly simple. |
| 09:32.55 | tmzt | are the differences all ulpi writes/regs? |
| 09:33.52 | cr2 | dzo: i've started to add rpc numbers into wiki, but it's a real paramter maze there ... |
| 09:33.59 | dzo | no, it has no ulpi. |
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| 09:36.23 | tmzt | very different then |
| 09:36.45 | tmzt | I thought it was just transceiver ip |
| 09:36.56 | tmzt | but I guess it's the whole thing |
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| 09:38.07 | reed | hi |
| 09:42.18 | tmzt | 01:39 < TommyBres> tmzt i'm aware of this? did you read what i just said? |
| 09:42.19 | tmzt | 01:39 < TommyBres> 256 for the diamond and 288 for the touch pro, there's your difference |
| 09:42.42 | tmzt | sorry, that's from #android, can some tell me what ram difference that is |
| 09:43.48 | dzo | tmzt: yes, usb is only full speed with completely different otg core. |
| 09:44.25 | reed | is there a comparison matrix of android suport on htc phones? |
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| 09:45.59 | reed | I'm looking at xanadux wiki pages now, but they see to refer to old htc models |
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| 10:06.59 | dream_kill | hi |
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| 10:42.57 | dcordes | reed: I'm not aware of such a table but it's a good idea. xda wiki has some seperate status pages though. are you looking for the device with best linux support? |
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| 10:47.54 | dcordes | dzo: you said only thing that doesn't work is speakerphone. on the kaiser I get a speakerphone call when I only dial and don't touch anything else smd related after booting linux |
| 10:53.05 | tmzt | dcordes: it wasn't setup like that in wm? |
| 10:55.46 | reed | dcordes: yes, looking for a (cheap :)) device that can run anything else but win |
| 10:58.32 | dcordes | tmzt: that's in framworkd. I don't think it tocuhes anything audio routing related |
| 10:58.59 | dcordes | reed: cdma or gsm? |
| 10:59.02 | tmzt | right |
| 10:59.10 | tmzt | cheep |
| 10:59.15 | tmzt | maybe i780 |
| 11:00.15 | dcordes | nike ? |
| 11:00.52 | tmzt | dcordes: what was speakerphone setting in windows? |
| 11:01.31 | dcordes | normal (handset) |
| 11:01.53 | tmzt | did you make any calls? |
| 11:01.54 | dcordes | I never use speakerphone and when I tried frameworkd on kaiser it always got me a call on the speakerphone |
| 11:02.23 | dcordes | probably |
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| 11:04.18 | dcordes | tmzt: when you try the same on an -A device, you get no audio |
| 11:06.00 | tmzt | still makes no sense |
| 11:06.17 | tmzt | unless rpc code initializes the audio path |
| 11:07.54 | dcordes | tmzt: for the kais, I always assumed speakerphone would be selected as standard by AMSS |
| 11:09.15 | tmzt | kais has proper rpc driver right? |
| 11:10.03 | dcordes | call when I only dial and don't touch anything else smd related after booting linux |
| 11:10.30 | dcordes | wrong button there, sorry. yes, dzo can set everything correctly afaik |
| 11:44.55 | reed | dcordes: preferably umts |
| 11:45.38 | reed | dcordes: but I could opt to change operator for a nice phone (currenty on H3G, so I can use only umts) |
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| 12:17.44 | duncang | Hi, folks. Can anyone point me at a summary of where the HTC-Linux developer/coordination resources are? I know about this IRC channel, the xda-developer wiki (which contains some useful info), the xda-developer forums (which probably has lots of useful info, but the signal-to-noise is terrible), git.linuxtogo.org, balsat.servehttp.com and www.htc-linux.org. Is there a mailling list specifically for HTC-linux, or one where htc-linux threads are |
| 12:17.44 | duncang | y exists, I'll happily write one on both wikis. |
| 12:23.30 | exco | duncang: no summary that I know of |
| 12:23.35 | cr2 | tmzt: there are at@ commands for audio routing |
| 12:23.48 | exco | just widespread information and lots of noise in the forum threads |
| 12:24.19 | duncang | exco: OK, so is there a mailling list for patch exchange and discussion? |
| 12:24.35 | exco | duncang: also http://projects.linuxtogo.org/tracker/?atid=273&group_id=37&func=browse if you haven't already seen |
| 12:25.43 | duncang | exco: Ah-ha. That looks like the right place for me to be looking. |
| 12:26.02 | exco | duncang: atm if you have a patch you either post it in the "corresponding" thread or push it to dzo's branch |
| 12:26.23 | exco | duncang: what device ? |
| 12:26.41 | cr2 | duncang: there was a kernel ML at hh.org, and i think there is a ML at linuxtogo |
| 12:26.54 | duncang | RAPH120. Would you like a current status? |
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| 12:28.18 | cr2 | duncang: what are the differences to raph100 and raph110 ? |
| 12:29.16 | exco | raph 120 is the htc-msm-2.6.25 branch I suppose |
| 12:29.48 | duncang | cr2: That's exactly what I'm trying to figure out. Since I don't have a raph100 or a 110 to compare directly, I'm going on the difference between what people say works and what actually does or ought to... |
| 12:30.57 | exco | that http://git.linuxtogo.org/?p=groups/mobile-linux/kernel.git;a=shortlog;h=refs/heads/htc-msm-2.6.27 |
| 12:31.07 | duncang | exco: I'm using the htc-msm-2.6.27 branch, actually. But I haven't worked out why the kernels I build hang during boot. |
| 12:31.10 | exco | looks like your branch ... you should be talking to one of those guys |
| 12:33.09 | cr2 | duncang: raph100 is documented rather well |
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| 12:33.48 | cr2 | duncang: check the SD slot, gpios, smem channels, smem layout, mddi client chip, ... |
| 12:34.00 | duncang | Kernel from http://connect-utb.com/index.php?option=com_jdownloads&Itemid=58&task=view.download&cid=24 works OK on my device (given a short rootdelay as I'm using an SD card as root fs). I've backtracked through the commits to htc-msm-2.6.27 to 18 Feb, so it must be the config or my toolchain... |
| 12:34.38 | duncang | cr2: You're talking about http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=RaphaelResearch yeah? |
| 12:34.44 | cr2 | yes |
| 12:35.36 | duncang | http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=RaphaelMemoryMap is broken for me (zero size). Is this a known problem? |
| 12:36.56 | cr2 | hm, probably somebody added too much new entries and exceeded the max size |
| 12:37.59 | duncang | Who's running www.htc-linux.org? Is documentation going to be cleaned up and transplanted there? |
| 12:38.49 | cr2 | yes, it's a good idea |
| 12:39.16 | cr2 | we can do more than on xda-dev. also without googel spam |
| 12:40.31 | duncang | Should I start? And what about a mailling list? The linuxtogo lists look very quiet - although their issue tracker would be handy... |
| 12:42.24 | cr2 | of course you'd start. i'm trying to do many things at once, and can't bring anything to an end ;) |
| 12:43.15 | cr2 | RaphaelMemoryMap may be picked from google cache and split into smem and non-smem parts |
| 12:44.39 | dcordes | duncang: a mailing list for htc-linux.org would be nice |
| 12:45.45 | dcordes | duncang: we are working on pulling in the xda wiki sites with vital porting information (research sites) |
| 12:46.06 | duncang | dcordes: Are you running that domain and the wiki, then? |
| 12:46.22 | dcordes | duncang: no only had the ideas |
| 12:46.40 | dcordes | but I have access |
| 12:47.30 | duncang | dcordes: Can I help with the sifting and porting of info, then? I might learn something in the process? |
| 12:48.24 | dcordes | sure. the main problem with the wiki is to convert the phpwiki content from xda to our mediawiki |
| 12:48.39 | duncang | dcordes: I'm registered at both sites so can tag works in progress and add "please look over here now" type stuff. |
| 12:48.54 | dcordes | that would be good |
| 12:49.07 | duncang | I speak Mediawiki quite well, but not PHPwiki. I could learn cook some perl... |
| 12:49.13 | dcordes | if you can find a way to copy the tables, that would be even better |
| 12:49.17 | dcordes | we had no luck so far |
| 12:49.38 | dcordes | it's impossible to get a dump from xda wiki |
| 12:49.58 | dcordes | the administrator does not seem to reply to our iniquiry |
| 12:50.51 | duncang | The whole site looks like a disaster zone to me. It seems to be infested with people trying to sell paid unlocking services and hacking about with dodgy WinCE builds... Yuck. |
| 12:52.25 | dcordes | it's true, there is a lot of unintersting stuff. it's not impossible to find info though. if you search for research, you can get a good overview of the documentation. it's better to have a linux only place though |
| 12:52.33 | dcordes | hence htc-linux.org |
| 12:53.08 | duncang | Indeed. Is there a master plan for how to structure the new wiki? If not, shall we make one? |
| 12:53.25 | dcordes | we should make one |
| 12:57.55 | dcordes | the structure of the research pages is ok already. instead of <Device> and <Device>Research sites, we could have <Device> sites only. things that are very specific to the device should be documented on the main <Device> site and not get a seperate site |
| 12:58.08 | Marajin | hey dcordes |
| 12:58.10 | duncang | We could use Mediawiki's categories to tag pages per model. |
| 12:58.22 | Marajin | dcordes: lookit you with your shiny @ |
| 12:58.25 | dcordes | that would be nice too |
| 12:58.42 | dcordes | Marajin: I might get a @ t-shirt |
| 12:58.53 | Marajin | dcordes: they do sell nethack themed ones ;) |
| 13:01.59 | dcordes | we should definetly get one Kernel site that has information on where to get the uptodate code for every device |
| 13:03.04 | cr2 | duncang: they always posted useful tech info at xda-dev |
| 13:03.33 | cr2 | for certain things there is no better (or other) source |
| 13:04.10 | duncang | dcordes: git.linuxtogo.org might be enough, if there was a sane approach to exchanging experimental code. Like a mailling list... |
| 13:04.41 | cr2 | but it's a different community, that's true. more warez-oriented :) |
| 13:04.49 | duncang | cr2: Yeah, but it's _really_ hard to find the useful bits of a slow 300+ page forum thread... |
| 13:06.02 | ali12341 | duncang: git is a much better way of exchanging experimental code than mailing patches around |
| 13:06.57 | duncang | cr2: back to the "wft is a raph120" thread; is there a complete descrition of the 100 or 110 against which I could diff the lump of metal on the desk |
| 13:07.26 | cr2 | ali12341: i never read through the 300+ threads. only diffs |
| 13:08.24 | cr2 | duncang: there is no such description, but there are some "markers" |
| 13:08.36 | cr2 | 120 should not be different from 1x0 |
| 13:08.57 | cr2 | maybe they dropped a cam, or added more sram |
| 13:09.05 | cr2 | such minor, but annoying things |
| 13:09.45 | duncang | ali12341: still need a sensible way to talk to eachother. http://projects.linuxtogo.org/mailman/listinfo/mobile-linux-discuss looks quiet. Should we encourage HTC hackers to congregate there? |
| 13:10.46 | ali12341 | duncang: there's always irc |
| 13:11.03 | duncang | I said /sensible/ ;-) Meaning non-real-time. |
| 13:11.11 | ali12341 | irc isn't real time |
| 13:15.07 | cr2 | ali12341: near realtime |
| 13:16.23 | duncang | Point being I can respond to a mail thread days later when I've done something useful. IRC it's difficult/pointless to contribute to threads I can see from last night. |
| 13:17.33 | ali12341 | sure |
| 13:18.24 | ali12341 | i don't know about the linuxtogo mailing list but i know the linwizard one is quiet. it doesn't mean nobody is listening though. it's only quiet because we all use irc instead. |
| 13:19.31 | duncang | I'm looking at the member list now and I can see several of the recent committers to the msm-2.6.27 branch. |
| 13:26.31 | dcordes | I put some kernel info in http://www.htc-linux.org/wiki/index.php?title=Kernel |
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| 13:46.01 | duncang | I think I have the beginnings of a table converter. Check http://www.htc-linux.org/wiki/index.php?title=Raphael_GPIO |
| 13:46.12 | dcordes | awesome! |
| 13:46.23 | duncang | needs food and drink; back soon. |
| 13:54.39 | duncang | has discovered a lifetime supply of hot cross buns. |
| 13:55.00 | duncang | And also that "preview" is broken on wiki.xda-dev. Grrr. |
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| 13:58.13 | dcordes | duncang: bon appetit |
| 13:59.36 | dvaey | cr2, are you the chris whos on haret list? |
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| 14:05.15 | cr2 | dvaey: no |
| 14:05.40 | cr2 | dcordes: can you register medion e4430 at http://www.arm.linux.org.uk/developer/machines/ ? |
| 14:05.45 | dvaey | ok.. just he seems to be doing similar stuff to you, and i wondered |
| 14:05.47 | cr2 | i forgot my password |
| 14:05.57 | cr2 | dvaey: where ? |
| 14:06.06 | dvaey | on haret-boot email list |
| 14:06.12 | dvaey | hang on ill get you archive url |
| 14:07.06 | dvaey | www.handhelds.org/hypermail/haret/current/ |
| 14:07.24 | dvaey | down near the bottom (ignore the recent spam ones) |
| 14:08.27 | dvaey | not a heavy traffic list and looks like its only been there for a month or two, but some useful tidbits on there ive found anyway |
| 14:09.03 | cr2 | haret list is at least 5 years old :) |
| 14:10.12 | dcordes | lol there are some new machine types for SoC' |
| 14:10.28 | dvaey | well the index only goes back a month or so |
| 14:10.30 | cr2 | dcordes: it's 2443 |
| 14:10.34 | dvaey | index/archive |
| 14:10.46 | cr2 | dvaey: hh.org is a _very_ strange site |
| 14:10.47 | dvaey | ive got 2450 |
| 14:10.53 | dvaey | heh |
| 14:11.04 | dvaey | i dont care how strange it is, if i glean info from it :) |
| 14:12.06 | cr2 | heh |
| 14:12.31 | cr2 | i can't get haret cvs write access, although i have kernel cvs write access |
| 14:12.38 | dvaey | heh |
| 14:12.47 | cr2 | because nobody answers |
| 14:12.52 | dvaey | im still even struggling to get mine to boot |
| 14:12.58 | cr2 | but the site is still alive and running |
| 14:13.13 | dvaey | but im using and abusing haret, so its good to be there :) |
| 14:13.31 | dvaey | kevin replies to emails regularly on the email list |
| 14:13.33 | cr2 | write patches and tell Kevin2 about them |
| 14:13.38 | cr2 | ok |
| 14:13.58 | dvaey | yea, ive still gotta figure out where im at before i can start writing patches :) |
| 14:14.49 | dvaey | id like to have a detect routine for s3c cpus too, but still fiddling with that |
| 14:15.02 | dcordes | cr2: suffix is s3c ? |
| 14:15.53 | dcordes | s3c2443 |
| 14:16.53 | dcordes | http://www.arm.linux.org.uk/developer/machines/list.php?id=2170 |
| 14:19.37 | cr2 | no |
| 14:19.48 | cr2 | i need to check 2.6.29 |
| 14:20.06 | cr2 | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:20.47 | cr2 | dcordes: ok |
| 14:21.13 | cr2 | hm. probably i'd start with hh.org |
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| 14:43.35 | cr2 | dvaey: does your navman support plain fb ? |
| 14:48.04 | dream_kill | hi guys |
| 14:48.13 | dream_kill | any updates on raphael port :P ? |
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| 14:57.40 | cr2 | dream_kill: not yet |
| 15:01.18 | cr2 | Kevin2: is 'PLATFORM_TYPE' an acceptable entry for mach table ? |
| 15:01.24 | cr2 | Trying to detect machine (Plat='PLATFORM_TYPE' OEM='MERMAID') |
| 15:01.25 | cr2 | Wince reports processor: core=ARM926EJ name=S3C2450 cat= vend=Samsung |
| 15:02.12 | cr2 | Trying to detect machine (Plat='PLATFORM_TYPE' OEM='MDPNAE443X2TR01') |
| 15:02.13 | cr2 | Wince reports processor: core=ARM920T name=S3C2443 cat= vend=Samsung Electronics |
| 15:03.01 | cr2 | it seems that name= reported by wince is good enough, if the cpu is not defined by mach table |
| 15:04.04 | cr2 | core= is not really useful, and cat= is always empty |
| 15:04.45 | Kevin2 | cr2: Can just juse use MERMAID? |
| 15:05.23 | Kevin2 | Oh - machlist requires both platform and oem - I guess if it is needed then it is needed. |
| 15:05.38 | cr2 | Kevin2: mermaid is not my device, it's the navman of dvaey |
| 15:06.04 | cr2 | dcordes has registered a mtype for me |
| 15:06.15 | cr2 | [15:16] <dcordes> http://www.arm.linux.org.uk/developer/machines/list.php?id=2170 |
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| 15:06.55 | cr2 | but for the unknown devices the name= from wince seems to be very helpful |
| 15:06.56 | Kevin2 | cr2: BTW, you're welcome to haret cvs access as far as I'm concerned - I don't know how to access an admin to get it though. |
| 15:07.19 | cr2 | Kevin2: yeah, i remember about that problem |
| 15:07.20 | Kevin2 | We can move to linuxtogo.org -- the admins there are helpful. However, I didn't want to "rock the boat". |
| 15:07.53 | cr2 | Kevin2: i think we should. it seems nobody is interested in haret development more than we |
| 15:08.12 | Kevin2 | Do you have an account on linuxtogo? |
| 15:08.32 | cr2 | no. probably i'd apply |
| 15:09.27 | Kevin2 | Okay, we should probably reach out to the original author and make sure he is okay with it. |
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| 15:10.15 | cr2 | ok |
| 15:10.38 | Kevin2 | We could just move the source repo - but that would mean pointing the wiki on hh.org to info at linuxtogo. I'm not sure if that would raise people's ire. |
| 15:10.55 | Kevin2 | The other option would be to move everything (mail list, src repo, and wiki). |
| 15:11.32 | cr2 | well, since they dont even bother to reply, we may move. |
| 15:12.05 | cr2 | i see some sporadic opie patches at hh.org cia log, but otherwise it looks dead. |
| 15:13.21 | Kevin2 | Okay. I'll send an email out later today to psokolovsky and zab to see if they have any objections. |
| 15:13.31 | cr2 | ok |
| 15:14.05 | cr2 | have not heard anything from psokolovsky for 2 years or so. |
| 15:15.04 | Kevin2 | I haven't either - it can't hurt to cc him though. :-) |
| 15:16.03 | Kevin2 | I'll be back in a few hours. |
| 15:16.42 | cr2 | ok |
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| 16:33.00 | cr2 | Herald, OMAP850 ,HERA, HERMES |
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| 16:38.55 | cr2 | HaRET(2)# ramboot |
| 16:38.57 | cr2 | boot params: RAMADDR=30000000 RAMSIZE=09000000 MTYPE=1213 CMDLINE='root=/dev/ram0 ro console=tty0' |
| 16:39.26 | cr2 | WinCE reports memory size 150994944 (phys=129671168 store=425984) |
| 16:39.35 | cr2 | hmm. needs a fix |
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| 16:41.22 | cr2 | Kevin2: haret should be more conservative about the ram size :) |
| 16:41.35 | ellisway | hi all |
| 16:41.43 | cr2 | hi ellisway |
| 16:41.54 | ellisway | hi cr2 |
| 16:41.59 | ellisway | ltns |
| 16:42.08 | ellisway | hows things gong |
| 16:42.38 | ellisway | going |
| 16:42.39 | cr2 | i'm trying to boot linux on a s3c2443 pna |
| 16:43.49 | ellisway | simalar sort of cpu to the hermes |
| 16:44.08 | cr2 | yes, i'm patching the hermes code |
| 16:44.27 | ellisway | cool |
| 16:45.24 | ellisway | what else has been happening you done any more work on the athena |
| 16:45.45 | cr2 | i've just recompiled the athena kernel |
| 16:46.25 | cr2 | but it should be better ported to a newer version |
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| 16:51.31 | cr2 | hm. hermes uses uart2 for debug messages. (IR) |
| 16:52.53 | cr2 | CONFIG_DEBUG_S3C2410_PORT=y |
| 16:54.21 | cr2 | hehe. selected at 2 places |
| 16:55.14 | cr2 | recompiling |
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| 17:09.40 | cr2 | 000.000 IRQS INTPND: INT_USBD(25)=1 |
| 17:09.40 | cr2 | 000.000 IRQS INTPND: INT_DMA0(17)=1 |
| 17:09.56 | cr2 | the dma addresses look like SD |
| 17:11.13 | cr2 | 029.293 IRQS INTPND: INT_ADC(31)=1 |
| 17:11.17 | cr2 | on touch |
| 17:11.27 | cr2 | + timer3 |
| 17:12.28 | cr2 | 006.186 IRQS INTPND: EINT0(0)=1 |
| 17:12.28 | cr2 | on power button |
| 17:16.39 | cr2 | 007.643 IRQS EINTPEND: EINT4(36)=1 |
| 17:16.40 | cr2 | 008.378 IRQS INTPND: INT_DMA0(17)=1 |
| 17:16.46 | cr2 | on SD |
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| 17:18.07 | cr2 | 018.794 IRQS INTPND: INT_UART0(28)=1 |
| 17:18.11 | cr2 | is BT |
| 17:18.13 | cr2 | nice |
| 17:20.33 | cr2 | 091.498 IRQS INTPND: INT_DMA1(18)=1 |
| 17:20.35 | cr2 | 091.543 IRQS INTPND: INT_UART2(15)=1 |
| 17:20.50 | cr2 | on navi on |
| 17:21.01 | cr2 | probably gps |
| 17:21.11 | cr2 | but may be tmc |
| 17:25.55 | cr2 | 080.077 IRQS EINTPEND: EINT18(50)=1 |
| 17:26.03 | cr2 | headset/tmc antenna |
| 17:39.15 | cr2 | G9 and G10 sound |
| 17:40.14 | cr2 | CO sd detect, F4 SD power |
| 17:43.27 | cr2 | B6 and A8 lcd power (and BKL?) |
| 17:45.24 | cr2 | E4 sound |
| 17:47.01 | cr2 | powermon is not really implemented |
| 17:57.57 | cr2 | mickeyl: have you tried umts on raph100 ? |
| 17:58.16 | mickeyl | i don't have any data nodes |
| 17:58.25 | mickeyl | no smd1 |
| 17:58.51 | mickeyl | missing in kernel iirc |
| 17:59.26 | mickeyl | and i can't upgrade to HEAD, since this breaks raph100 |
| 18:00.15 | mickeyl | stuck with a7bbc84bc783acc349b030a4621541eab84165e0 |
| 18:01.09 | captnoord | You have been able to pin point the commit that breaks it? |
| 18:01.10 | cr2 | mickeyl: smd7 |
| 18:01.17 | mickeyl | right |
| 18:01.18 | mickeyl | no smd7 as well |
| 18:01.21 | cr2 | hmm |
| 18:01.23 | mickeyl | again, this just came in HEAD |
| 18:01.27 | mickeyl | which doesn't boot on raph |
| 18:01.39 | cr2 | mickeyl: can you add smd7 manually ? |
| 18:01.48 | cr2 | it was a trivial patch |
| 18:01.54 | mickeyl | tried that |
| 18:01.55 | mickeyl | didn't work |
| 18:01.59 | mickeyl | 55740d71abb60f32ef09c13a9756a467584dca6d breaks raph |
| 18:02.33 | mickeyl | i cherry picked 57f8b6c754c93c4614377fd281baef68bc1ea215, but still smd7 didn't appear |
| 18:02.58 | mickeyl | this holds more gprs work |
| 18:03.18 | cr2 | hmm,i'll have a look |
| 18:03.22 | mickeyl | thanks |
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| 18:04.09 | mickeyl | i'm really relying on you guys, middleware keeps me 100% busy, can't help with kernel |
| 18:04.24 | cr2 | ok |
| 18:04.38 | cr2 | eh. linuxtogo is slow as always |
| 18:05.45 | mickeyl | heh |
| 18:06.55 | cr2 | http://git.linuxtogo.org/?p=groups/mobile-linux/kernel.git;a=commitdiff;h=57f8b6c754c93c4614377fd281baef68bc1ea215 |
| 18:07.11 | cr2 | i think it's very simple |
| 18:07.33 | mickeyl | yes |
| 18:07.35 | mickeyl | like i said |
| 18:07.37 | mickeyl | i cherry picked that |
| 18:07.50 | mickeyl | let me try again |
| 18:07.54 | mickeyl | just to make sure |
| 18:08.16 | cr2 | ok |
| 18:08.28 | cr2 | there were no other changes in this area |
| 18:08.42 | cr2 | i've just asked maejrep to add it |
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| 18:09.34 | captnoord | 55740d71abb60f32ef09c13a9756a467584dca6d seems to focus on the 110 and 800 |
| 18:10.14 | mickeyl | after 5574x booting raph stalls with a message regarding clock setting |
| 18:10.28 | captnoord | as I know from disasmbling my drivers is that the drivers aren't compatible with the 100 |
| 18:11.48 | mickeyl | sighs while waiting for WM to boot |
| 18:12.36 | mickeyl | hmm, fun |
| 18:12.42 | mickeyl | this time it hangs |
| 18:12.52 | mickeyl | "usb: reset" |
| 18:12.58 | mickeyl | does the battery thing |
| 18:17.37 | captnoord | let me check my own driver stuff regarding that commit |
| 18:21.11 | captnoord | MOVL R0, 0xC0100000 MOV R2, #1 MOV R1, #0x1000 BL get_virtual_address |
| 18:21.29 | captnoord | info already in the source I hope |
| 18:21.35 | captnoord | 0xC0100000 addr |
| 18:21.42 | captnoord | 0x1000 size |
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| 18:28.06 | mickeyl | crw-rw---- 1 root dialout 254, 0 Mar 15 16:36 smd0 |
| 18:28.06 | mickeyl | crw-rw---- 1 root dialout 254, 27 Mar 15 16:36 smd27 |
| 18:28.16 | mickeyl | even with 57f8b6c754c93c4614377fd281baef68bc1ea215 |
| 18:28.34 | mickeyl | or do i need to change something in udev to create this node? |
| 18:29.11 | cr2 | mickeyl: use mknod manually ? |
| 18:30.17 | mickeyl | who is creating the other device nodes? |
| 18:30.56 | cr2 | don't know, maybe they are already there. |
| 18:31.09 | mickeyl | unlikely |
| 18:31.15 | mickeyl | they're not present on my other devices :) |
| 18:31.19 | cr2 | ok |
| 18:31.25 | mickeyl | anyways, worth a try |
| 18:31.28 | mickeyl | mknod'ding |
| 18:32.40 | cr2 | i'm compiling the head myself |
| 18:35.03 | mickeyl | nothing on /dev/smd7 |
| 18:35.15 | mickeyl | i get a connect on smd0, but no handshake frames |
| 18:35.26 | mickeyl | so i guess the device is not registered |
| 18:36.41 | mickeyl | any idea how to enable charging btw.? |
| 18:36.54 | mickeyl | it sucks a bit going back to win mobile just to charge the device |
| 18:37.01 | mickeyl | i only have one battery atm. |
| 18:37.29 | cr2 | there are 2 or 3 gpios |
| 18:37.54 | cr2 | check them with ac on, usb on, and ac/usb off |
| 18:39.01 | cr2 | 1 0x01 1 0 1 O set batt charge current (0=500mA, 1=900mA) |
| 18:39.32 | cr2 | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:40.07 | cr2 | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:40.12 | cr2 | says wiki |
| 18:40.22 | mickeyl | hmm, k |
| 18:40.30 | mickeyl | do you have something like the sysfs gpio interface? |
| 18:40.40 | mickeyl | or how would you tweak individual gpios on this hardware? |
| 18:40.53 | cr2 | the battery should be present |
| 18:40.57 | cr2 | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:41.16 | cr2 | with generic gpio interface |
| 18:41.42 | mickeyl | heh |
| 18:41.45 | mickeyl | which isn't in that kernel |
| 18:41.50 | mickeyl | *sigh* |
| 18:41.55 | mickeyl | ok, will tweak defconfig tomorrow |
| 18:42.36 | cr2 | hmm. i'm looking for some example |
| 18:42.45 | mickeyl | for some reason charging gets reset during boot |
| 18:42.55 | mickeyl | if the kernel crashes during boot, you see it's still charging |
| 18:44.21 | cr2 | gpio_set_value() should be present |
| 18:44.33 | cr2 | how do you know that it's charging ? |
| 18:45.24 | mickeyl | the magic LED |
| 18:45.35 | mickeyl | swiping up and down |
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| 18:46.16 | mickeyl | AT+CBC seems to always show 100, so it's not doing anything useful on this hardware |
| 18:46.42 | cr2 | ok |
| 18:47.00 | cr2 | magic led is just an atmel microcontroller |
| 18:47.13 | cr2 | it has no idea about charging. imho |
| 18:47.13 | mickeyl | hmm, can we reprogram it? |
| 18:47.41 | cr2 | well, it is possible to reflash atmegaX8 |
| 18:48.03 | cr2 | but you need to locate and disassemble firmware first |
| 18:48.22 | cr2 | for the hardcore :) |
| 18:48.22 | captnoord | reprogrammable? |
| 18:48.45 | cr2 | mickeyl: but it should be controllable from usespace too |
| 18:48.55 | mickeyl | sounds like fun |
| 18:49.01 | mickeyl | for when the whole rest is done ;) |
| 18:49.01 | cr2 | there is a brightness sensor too |
| 18:49.14 | cr2 | don't know if this ADC is already supported. |
| 18:49.21 | mickeyl | i just seen there's an accelerometer as well. would be cool if that could be exported as input device |
| 18:49.47 | cr2 | j0b0 has written the driver, and i have it here. |
| 18:49.53 | cr2 | somebody should commit it. |
| 18:49.59 | cr2 | =accelerometer. |
| 18:50.02 | cr2 | it works |
| 18:50.24 | cr2 | ABS_X,ABS_Y and ABS_Z |
| 18:50.39 | cr2 | but these are differential of course |
| 18:50.39 | dcordes | ellis |
| 18:51.02 | dcordes | ellis: duncang made a script to convert the tables http://www.htc-linux.org/wiki/index.php?title=Raphael_GPIO |
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| 19:39.55 | ellis | looks good |
| 19:40.10 | ellis | whats the next step then |
| 20:43.40 | captnoord | hmm a app that only does the GPIO tracing and stuff..... in combination with haret of course..... |
| 20:43.43 | captnoord | been done? |
| 20:45.11 | captnoord | also conserning the |
| 20:45.11 | captnoord | http://www.htc-linux.org/wiki/index.php?title=Raphael |
| 20:45.21 | captnoord | http://www.htc-linux.org/wiki/index.php?title=Raphael_GPIO |
| 20:45.35 | captnoord | bank0 stuff mainly used for camera stuff? |
| 20:46.11 | captnoord | shouldn't it be a generic data transfer thing |
| 20:46.15 | captnoord | like 8 bit |
| 20:46.23 | captnoord | and with status channels |
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| 21:03.51 | mike18 | This probably isn't the most appropriate place, but does anyone know of a good chan for HTC troubleshooting Q/A? I'm striking out in the forum |
| 21:13.56 | tmzt | #xda-devs #ppcgeeks |
| 21:19.38 | cr2 | tmzt: the raph head compiles for me wit h standard armv5 toolchain |
| 21:20.22 | cr2 | tmzt: or is msm7201A something special ? the kernel does not use fp, so it should not be a problem |
| 21:24.58 | tmzt | hey |
| 21:25.03 | tmzt | sorry? |
| 21:25.35 | tmzt | cr2: I don't remeber asking anything about that |
| 21:33.16 | mike18 | tmzt: thanks |
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| 21:37.55 | Marajin | 'lo |
| 21:37.57 | Marajin | hey captnoord |
| 21:38.36 | captnoord | yooooo |
| 21:38.44 | captnoord | last test next wednes day |
| 21:38.59 | captnoord | then.... work on my minor time |
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| 21:39.12 | captnoord | antena's |
| 21:39.16 | captnoord | and emission |
| 21:39.27 | captnoord | math gives me headaches |
| 21:40.12 | Marajin | heh =) |
| 21:40.16 | Marajin | math gives everyone headaches |
| 21:40.17 | captnoord | Marajin: how's life? |
| 21:40.20 | Marajin | it's math's secret purpose! |
| 21:40.24 | Marajin | ah not too bad |
| 21:40.31 | Marajin | still loving my new tablet PC and kovsky |
| 21:40.32 | captnoord | I've spend so much time coding and learning to code.... |
| 21:40.33 | Marajin | no cracks yet! |
| 21:40.47 | captnoord | i'm like "damn I knew this....... arg^%$&^%$" |
| 21:40.57 | Marajin | heh |
| 21:41.05 | captnoord | its like all the knowlage is burried |
| 21:41.07 | captnoord | deep |
| 21:41.08 | captnoord | :( |
| 21:41.22 | captnoord | tomorrow I need to fix the dishwasher..... |
| 21:41.23 | captnoord | arg |
| 21:42.04 | captnoord | hmmmm |
| 21:42.23 | captnoord | and I still haven't found the magic on arm 9 asm |
| 21:42.24 | captnoord | :P |
| 21:43.09 | captnoord | even if I disasm the clock dll..... |
| 21:43.11 | captnoord | i'm like |
| 21:43.15 | captnoord | yea I know its in here |
| 21:43.19 | captnoord | but I just can't find it |
| 21:43.42 | Marajin | take a break? |
| 21:43.45 | Marajin | (have a kitkat) |
| 21:44.16 | captnoord | hmmm..... I have played some guitar to ease the pain |
| 21:44.23 | captnoord | http://deja.jails.nl/trashbin/track%201_mixdown.ogg |
| 21:44.26 | captnoord | tryed some new stuff |
| 21:44.32 | captnoord | but I just didn't get it right |
| 21:44.52 | captnoord | new song I am trying to create |
| 21:44.57 | captnoord | it has the mood |
| 21:45.01 | captnoord | but it doesn't have the punch |
| 21:45.09 | captnoord | the power |
| 21:45.23 | captnoord | O btw skip the first 30 seconds |
| 21:45.27 | captnoord | silence |
| 21:45.28 | captnoord | :P |
| 22:06.50 | Marajin | heh :) |
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| 22:39.31 | Untouchab1e | Good evening |
| 22:39.41 | captnoord | good night |
| 22:39.41 | captnoord | :P |
| 22:39.54 | Untouchab1e | haha |
| 22:39.55 | Untouchab1e | good night |
| 22:40.45 | captnoord | Untouchab1e: how's life? |
| 22:41.15 | Untouchab1e | all good.. got back from a quick and nice holiday in Prague today |
| 22:41.31 | Untouchab1e | and now I am trying to get a hold of the "Android for Raph and Diamond" devs |
| 22:41.48 | Untouchab1e | trying to coordinate some better development routines |
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| 22:41.56 | Untouchab1e | but I think I will wait untill after the holidays |
| 22:42.00 | Untouchab1e | and yourself? all is good? |
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| 22:42.28 | captnoord | as in.... try to gather them in 1 place |
| 22:42.30 | captnoord | hmmm |
| 22:42.33 | captnoord | could be better |
| 22:42.39 | captnoord | big test next week |
| 22:42.40 | captnoord | headache |
| 22:42.48 | captnoord | dishwasher to fix tomorrow:( |
| 22:42.56 | Untouchab1e | hah |
| 22:42.56 | captnoord | what I am trying to code doesn't workout |
| 22:43.00 | Untouchab1e | better get some sleep then |
| 22:43.11 | captnoord | hmmm i'm relaxing atm |
| 22:43.18 | captnoord | also i'm trying to write a song |
| 22:43.19 | captnoord | but |
| 22:43.23 | captnoord | that also doesn't work out |
| 22:43.38 | captnoord | atm I am missing the "something" |
| 22:43.51 | captnoord | http://deja.jails.nl/trashbin/track%201_mixdown.ogg |
| 22:44.01 | Untouchab1e | sleep on it! I am sure it will come to you soon |
| 22:44.05 | captnoord | its missing the something |
| 22:44.11 | captnoord | hehe yea |
| 22:44.18 | captnoord | Untouchab1e: maybe you know |
| 22:44.26 | captnoord | the whole GPIO stuff |
| 22:44.43 | captnoord | is that also traced by hared ( I know you can trace it with haret ) |
| 22:44.51 | captnoord | or does people use other programs |
| 22:44.58 | Untouchab1e | We can talk it over tomorrow.. I need to get to bed :) |
| 22:45.05 | Untouchab1e | See you soon! |
| 22:45.06 | captnoord | hehek |
| 22:45.06 | Untouchab1e | and good luck |
| 22:45.07 | captnoord | l |
| 22:45.08 | captnoord | k |
| 22:45.11 | captnoord | thanks |