| 00:07.48 | mickeyl | ok |
| 00:07.55 | mickeyl | boot got much further now |
| 00:08.00 | mickeyl | bails out in init |
| 00:08.12 | mickeyl | busybox starts but doens't find /etc/init.d/rcS |
| 00:08.13 | mickeyl | strange |
| 00:08.18 | mickeyl | is usbeth expected? |
| 00:08.21 | mickeyl | +to work |
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| 00:13.48 | cr2 | mickeyl: you use the angstrom rootfs ? |
| 00:14.10 | mickeyl | well, openmoko, but that should be relatively similar |
| 00:14.11 | cr2 | cdc_ether should work |
| 00:14.18 | mickeyl | ok, will try in a second |
| 00:14.28 | cr2 | ok, but then it's a userspace issue. |
| 00:14.37 | mickeyl | right |
| 00:14.38 | cr2 | i don't remember the usb ip |
| 00:14.56 | mickeyl | the fb-onscreen display is fun |
| 00:15.00 | mickeyl | i thought the real keyboard would work |
| 00:15.05 | mickeyl | but it doesn't generate any characters |
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| 00:19.21 | captnoord | crosses his fingers |
| 00:20.17 | mickeyl | hmm |
| 00:20.18 | mickeyl | nothing |
| 00:20.27 | mickeyl | no kernel message on USB insertion |
| 00:20.31 | mickeyl | and nothing on the host side |
| 00:20.44 | mickeyl | i need to check with dcordes about the state of things in OE |
| 00:26.12 | cr2 | ok |
| 00:27.47 | mickeyl | not bad success for the first day, i'm fine with that ;) |
| 00:27.53 | mickeyl | need to recharge it now anyways |
| 00:32.59 | cr2 | lol |
| 00:33.19 | cr2 | mickeyl: do you have haretlog.txt ? |
| 00:33.33 | cr2 | mickeyl: what is your exact model reported in the log ? |
| 00:34.52 | mickeyl | let me check |
| 00:35.47 | acsviluppo | hi to all |
| 00:35.55 | acsviluppo | can i have a question? |
| 00:36.17 | acsviluppo | why we are using mem=96M ? |
| 00:36.25 | mickeyl | cr2: which line do you need? (can't copy and paste, device is not on network) |
| 00:41.43 | mickeyl | Touch Pro T7272 |
| 00:41.56 | mickeyl | MSM 7201A |
| 00:42.39 | cr2 | ok, the same here. |
| 00:42.50 | cr2 | so usb should work. |
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| 00:43.02 | mickeyl | might be something with the CONFIG |
| 00:43.11 | cr2 | NetRipper: mickeyl has problems with usb |
| 00:43.11 | mickeyl | i guess dcordes didn't test on raphael, just on kaiser |
| 00:43.19 | mickeyl | so i have no idea which kernel config he's using |
| 00:43.23 | cr2 | dcordes does not have raphael |
| 00:43.26 | lavender-t | hello dudes, long time no see |
| 00:43.41 | cr2 | hi lavender-t |
| 00:43.54 | lavender-t | hi cr2 :) |
| 00:44.03 | cr2 | mickeyl: forget about kaiser, it's a completely different device. |
| 00:44.20 | cr2 | mickeyl: on the kernel side |
| 00:45.26 | mickeyl | ok |
| 00:45.34 | cr2 | lavender-t: i have decoded most clocks, maejrep now rewrites the clk api. |
| 00:46.21 | lavender-t | cool. i browsed the git just now and found quite some checkins |
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| 00:47.14 | cr2 | yes, we have a lot of progress. in some sense :) |
| 00:47.32 | cr2 | j0b0 has written the accelerometer driver |
| 00:47.38 | lavender-t | yeah you guys are awesome :) |
| 00:47.58 | cr2 | i have documented the tvout location and register settings. |
| 00:48.11 | cr2 | NetRipper traced the tv gpios. |
| 00:48.31 | lavender-t | i built the kernel off the head of the git just now. but android hang after popping up the error dialog box ... |
| 00:48.46 | lavender-t | i'm gonna look a bit into it. |
| 00:48.52 | cr2 | ok |
| 00:51.00 | cr2 | well, wifi is a bit stalled because hte firmware loader |
| 00:51.08 | cr2 | we need to make bt work |
| 00:51.16 | cr2 | then fm radio :) |
| 00:51.32 | lavender-t | the sound worked ? |
| 00:51.53 | cr2 | no, but you can look at it. |
| 00:52.08 | cr2 | the rpc api may be needed for that. |
| 00:52.33 | lavender-t | alrighty, thanks ;)\ |
| 00:52.49 | cr2 | i think fm is done is hardware, so you don't need sound. |
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| 00:54.07 | NetRipper | lavender-t, you need a newer build of android, get the latest from connect-utb.com |
| 00:54.21 | NetRipper | to get rid of that error popup |
| 00:54.56 | lavender-t | ah. thanks NetRipper ! |
| 00:55.44 | cr2 | NetRipper: what are the priorities ? |
| 00:55.59 | NetRipper | gsm and audio i think |
| 00:56.06 | NetRipper | we really want to get audio working |
| 00:56.30 | cr2 | gsm=umts data ? |
| 00:56.38 | NetRipper | no just incoming and outgoing calls |
| 00:56.46 | NetRipper | not sure if it's just an android issue though |
| 00:56.49 | NetRipper | for the calls |
| 00:56.50 | cr2 | but at works ? |
| 00:57.05 | cr2 | AT CMD |
| 00:57.30 | NetRipper | well many people report that SMS send works, SMS receive too, making a phone call too, but receiving a phone call does not... not sure if that's an android issue or a kernel issue |
| 00:57.47 | cr2 | it's the sound issue |
| 00:57.50 | cr2 | kernel |
| 00:58.09 | NetRipper | for now i think the phone call problem is an android issue.. as sms receive works, which is using the same channel i believe |
| 00:58.09 | cr2 | but since SMS works, the AT CMD works |
| 00:58.13 | NetRipper | exactly |
| 00:58.20 | NetRipper | so next up is audio routing i think |
| 00:58.26 | cr2 | yes |
| 00:58.28 | NetRipper | in my opinion it should get priority |
| 00:58.28 | NetRipper | :) |
| 00:58.36 | cr2 | but what about UMTS data ? |
| 00:58.47 | NetRipper | comes after phone calls |
| 00:58.59 | cr2 | maejrep has CDMA, it's a completely differenrt beast |
| 00:59.02 | NetRipper | but if you are bored, you're welcome to check up on it of course :P |
| 00:59.05 | NetRipper | yes |
| 00:59.14 | cr2 | i think UMTS dats is trivial compared to the sound |
| 00:59.57 | cr2 | i have looked at the wavedev.dll |
| 01:00.05 | NetRipper | i have simply tried enabling smd1, but it indicates wasn't that easy :P |
| 01:00.06 | cr2 | it copies a lot of data into smem |
| 01:00.18 | cr2 | but the locations are all documented |
| 01:00.19 | NetRipper | yes but for audio routing we should take vogue as example |
| 01:00.28 | NetRipper | it'll be pretty similar |
| 01:00.35 | NetRipper | just different memory addresses probably |
| 01:00.44 | cr2 | ok |
| 01:00.57 | NetRipper | but i really gtg to bed |
| 01:01.01 | NetRipper | should've gone 2 hours ago |
| 01:01.04 | cr2 | me too |
| 01:01.09 | NetRipper | good night :) |
| 01:01.14 | cr2 | good night |
| 01:03.44 | lavender-t | good nite NetRipper |
| 01:10.35 | boli^ | is there anywhere i can grab a nightly kernel build from? neither of the links mentioned at http://www.androidonhtc.com/kaiser/latest_builds work for me. one is dead, the other is empty. |
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| 02:15.07 | Temujin | boli^: http://cs-alb-pc3.massey.ac.nz/vogue/ |
| 02:15.25 | Temujin | boli^: that isn't nightly, but it's usually pretty recent |
| 02:17.43 | boli^ | i think thats what im already running - but thanks for the suggestion |
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| 03:07.07 | maejrep | NetRipper: yes but for audio we first need rpc working |
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| 03:44.05 | swc|666 | anyone here know if the HTC Raphael has the hardware for USB host mode? |
| 03:44.54 | maejrep | as in, if you can connect usb devices to it? |
| 03:45.28 | maejrep | like a keyboard, or an HTC 2-wire headset? |
| 03:46.17 | swc|666 | as in USB OTG ability, hardware-wsie |
| 03:46.30 | maejrep | yes |
| 03:46.33 | swc|666 | s/wsie/wise |
| 03:46.35 | swc|666 | nice! |
| 03:49.56 | swc|666 | maejrep, are you by chance working on the Anroid/*nix port on the Raph/Diam? |
| 03:50.38 | maejrep | linux moreso than android |
| 03:50.57 | swc|666 | good man |
| 03:51.01 | swc|666 | ;) |
| 03:51.35 | swc|666 | where is the most help needed right now? |
| 03:53.22 | maejrep | eh, hard to say to be honest |
| 03:53.26 | maejrep | what device do you have? |
| 03:54.21 | swc|666 | raphael currently, plus a neo freerunner, BA, Uni and several iPaq's |
| 03:54.40 | maejrep | which raphael? |
| 03:55.10 | swc|666 | Fuze |
| 03:55.20 | maejrep | at&t? raph500? |
| 03:55.25 | swc|666 | yep |
| 03:55.42 | swc|666 | just got it not long ago |
| 03:55.46 | maejrep | I think we might still need some discovery on that model actually |
| 03:55.47 | swc|666 | AT&T |
| 03:56.01 | swc|666 | at&t = raph500 or raph100? |
| 03:56.03 | maejrep | have you tried the latest kernel on it? |
| 03:56.05 | maejrep | raph500 |
| 03:56.07 | maejrep | i think |
| 03:56.08 | swc|666 | k |
| 03:56.15 | maejrep | it should say in Device Information |
| 03:56.24 | maejrep | on the identity tab |
| 03:56.24 | swc|666 | no, not yet.. I haven't tried anything as of yet |
| 03:56.48 | maejrep | might be useful to just see what works and what doesn't from the latest kernel |
| 03:56.58 | swc|666 | no problem |
| 03:58.08 | maejrep | bbiaf |
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| 04:11.54 | swc|666 | at&t fuze = raph100 apparently |
| 04:12.45 | maejrep | why do you say that? |
| 04:13.24 | swc|666 | i'd like to setup a build environment for the kernel.. seems like the links do not work on the wiki for the defconfig files |
| 04:13.43 | swc|666 | that's what i read... my model/fuze = raph100 |
| 04:13.45 | maejrep | defconfig should be in git as part of your checkout |
| 04:14.02 | maejrep | what did Device Info say? |
| 04:14.14 | swc|666 | device info said htc-p4600 |
| 04:15.10 | swc|666 | hmm |
| 04:15.18 | swc|666 | bootloader mode reports raph 110 |
| 04:15.27 | maejrep | ah, that's right |
| 04:15.29 | swc|666 | oo |
| 04:15.42 | maejrep | verizon's is raph500 :) |
| 04:15.48 | swc|666 | yea i meant s/raph100/raph110 |
| 04:15.53 | swc|666 | so its the 110 |
| 04:15.57 | swc|666 | aha |
| 04:16.10 | swc|666 | raph100 = euro model iirc |
| 04:16.17 | maejrep | yes |
| 04:16.30 | maejrep | i think raph300 is euro also |
| 04:16.55 | swc|666 | i'd <3 to get linux running on it... worth the effort given the hardware specs |
| 04:17.34 | maejrep | yeah, try current git |
| 04:17.44 | swc|666 | yep... checking out in a sec |
| 04:17.59 | maejrep | it should work for 110, but if you notice something specific that doesn't work, would be useful to know why |
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| 04:18.14 | swc|666 | maejrep... is this the current cross compile toolchain? http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=173455&package_id=198682&release_id=559788 |
| 04:18.37 | maejrep | you should only need that if you're planning to compile haret |
| 04:18.41 | swc|666 | ah |
| 04:19.02 | maejrep | arm-2008q1-126-arm-none-linux-gnueabi-i686-pc-linux-gnu.tar.bz2 |
| 04:19.10 | swc|666 | sweet |
| 04:19.12 | maejrep | that's what I use for cross-compile |
| 04:53.43 | maejrep | cr2, NetRipper: I think we can do a last-minute/JIT probe of the odd-ball 0 & 1 SMD ports in 7500 (cdma) with only a couple ifdefs/machtype checks |
| 04:54.37 | maejrep | gonna be tricky to do it cleanly, but i think it's the best way |
| 04:55.27 | maejrep | not to decide if I do it as a separate module or hack in an #include "smd_7500.c" into smd.c :p |
| 04:55.32 | maejrep | s/not/now/ |
| 04:56.26 | maejrep | separate module means its either totally disconnected from smd.o, or a bunch of changes to turn static variables and functions into non-static externs |
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| 05:13.09 | AstainHasPS3 | hiya maejrep whats new? |
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| 05:48.00 | tmzt | maejrep: shouldn't it be enough to register platform data in the module if you really want to |
| 05:48.13 | tmzt | then let _probe handle it |
| 06:02.02 | Marajin | hey peoples |
| 06:08.32 | AstainHasPS3 | hi Marajin |
| 06:17.48 | Marajin | hey AstainHasPS3 |
| 06:17.50 | Marajin | how's it going? |
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| 07:07.53 | Untouchab1e | Good morning! |
| 07:08.27 | Marajin | mornin' |
| 07:08.34 | Untouchab1e | How's things? |
| 07:08.44 | Marajin | well, fine for the most part |
| 07:09.48 | Untouchab1e | heh, good.. I guess..? |
| 07:09.53 | Marajin | heh |
| 07:10.02 | Marajin | I'd be a lot happier if my right eye wasn't swollen shut :P |
| 07:10.07 | Marajin | but how's it going with you? |
| 07:10.11 | Untouchab1e | Heh, ouch |
| 07:10.19 | Untouchab1e | Im fine.. A bit tired, but fine |
| 07:10.24 | TheiPirate | im sad |
| 07:10.28 | Untouchab1e | hah |
| 07:10.33 | Untouchab1e | How so? |
| 07:10.49 | TheiPirate | because my java project sucks and i dont know wha tto do |
| 07:10.55 | TheiPirate | so i get to wait till tomorow |
| 07:11.28 | TheiPirate | and i wish i could get my gmail on my phone haha |
| 07:11.42 | Untouchab1e | What phone do you have then? |
| 07:11.49 | TheiPirate | tilt |
| 07:12.11 | Untouchab1e | There is no reason you cant get gmail on your tilt... |
| 07:12.18 | TheiPirate | really? |
| 07:12.26 | TheiPirate | when i go to the website it is white |
| 07:12.28 | TheiPirate | and doesnt load |
| 07:12.33 | Untouchab1e | There are dedicated apps |
| 07:12.35 | TheiPirate | if i click the gmail icon on the phone it doesnt work |
| 07:12.52 | TheiPirate | sorry email icon |
| 07:13.12 | Untouchab1e | Or you can set up a regular email account through Windows Mobile too |
| 07:13.27 | TheiPirate | yea it works in winmo |
| 07:13.34 | TheiPirate | but i dont like winmo any more |
| 07:13.47 | Untouchab1e | Go to messaging --> add email account, then just basically type in your gmail address and password and Windows Mobile will figure out the rest (if you have Windows Mobile 6 or 6.1) |
| 07:14.13 | Untouchab1e | Thought you just said you wished you can get gmail on your phone.. |
| 07:14.18 | Untouchab1e | which you can.. |
| 07:14.24 | TheiPirate | while using android |
| 07:14.58 | Untouchab1e | Ah.. |
| 07:15.29 | Untouchab1e | I dont know how far the Android port has come on the tilt, so I dont believe I can help you there :/ |
| 07:15.39 | Untouchab1e | It works fine with my ADP1 obviously |
| 07:17.06 | TheiPirate | how is the battery life? |
| 07:17.16 | TheiPirate | my friend said his was not good, about 1 day and he had to charge |
| 07:17.25 | TheiPirate | but i dont know if he kept data on 24/7 |
| 07:18.48 | Untouchab1e | data on or off doesnt matter (you dont disconnect from the data connection off course), but as long as you have Wifi and GPS disabled and the screen brightness to a minimum, mine lasts fine 2-3 days with little use, or 1-2 days if Im surfing quite a bit on WiFi, using Latitude with GPS and such |
| 07:19.18 | TheiPirate | ok |
| 07:19.40 | TheiPirate | 1.5 days is good for me |
| 07:23.50 | Untouchab1e | Yeah, its not too ba |
| 07:23.51 | Untouchab1e | bad* |
| 07:24.02 | Untouchab1e | I would place battery life somewhere between the Diamond and Touch Pro |
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| 07:39.54 | Marajin | the tilt (i.e. kaiser) port of android works pretty well but the GPRS needs a kickstart using a 3rd party app and there's still SD issues |
| 07:40.09 | Marajin | if the SD issues weren't there I'd use android on mine day to day I think |
| 07:40.14 | tmzt | didn't those get fixed? |
| 07:40.29 | Marajin | tmzt: I still get them, it's strange cause dcordes said the same thing. |
| 07:40.36 | Marajin | tmzt: Maybe I have an odd kaiser/card ? |
| 07:40.39 | tmzt | what kernel are you using? |
| 07:40.46 | Marajin | latest one from dzo |
| 07:40.55 | tmzt | vogue? |
| 07:41.04 | tmzt | htc-vogue |
| 07:41.16 | Marajin | it has all the PM/screendimming/LEDs/audio/etc. working |
| 07:41.19 | Marajin | er no I have a kaiser. |
| 07:41.53 | Marajin | the vogue never had SD issues afaik |
| 07:42.05 | Untouchab1e | Marajin, where do you get the required files? I have a friend with a Kaiser, and I bet he would be curious to test it |
| 07:42.15 | Marajin | http://it029000.massey.ac.nz/vogue/ |
| 07:42.16 | Marajin | there |
| 07:42.25 | tmzt | built from git, Marajin ? |
| 07:42.29 | Marajin | there's a package that contains all the files (including the zImage) |
| 07:42.31 | Untouchab1e | You have all you need there? Isnt that for the Vogue? |
| 07:42.34 | Marajin | tmzt: no, just the latest from the site |
| 07:42.42 | Marajin | Untouchab1e: No, Vogue, Kaiser, Polaris, etc. |
| 07:42.46 | Untouchab1e | Ah, cool |
| 07:42.46 | tmzt | I would suggest building htc-vogue from ltg |
| 07:43.01 | Marajin | tmzt: the fixes are in the last coupla days? |
| 07:43.20 | tmzt | not sure, I only have what dcordes said |
| 07:44.03 | Marajin | I'm not set up to do builds anymore actually. I think I'm still reliant on old monotone stuff and whatnot |
| 07:45.08 | Marajin | so frankly I have no idea how to do the necessary building |
| 07:45.43 | tmzt | you just need a crosscompiler |
| 07:45.57 | tmzt | git clone |
| 07:46.01 | tmzt | git checkout |
| 07:46.17 | tmzt | codesourcery.com works or an existing OE compiler |
| 07:47.06 | tmzt | if you use codesourcery, don't use the latest, use 2008q1 |
| 07:47.12 | tmzt | armel linux |
| 07:47.48 | tmzt | extract, add to PATH and CROSS_COMPILE=prefix- ARCH=arm make zImage |
| 07:51.46 | Marajin | um right |
| 07:52.08 | Untouchab1e | Marajin.. are there anything to note when running the build on the Kaiser? |
| 07:52.25 | Untouchab1e | should the android folder be placed on the storage card or internal storage? |
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| 07:56.46 | Marajin | tmzt: so er, what's the ltg git repo ? |
| 07:56.59 | tmzt | git.linuxtogo.org |
| 07:57.04 | Marajin | figures |
| 07:57.05 | Marajin | heh |
| 07:58.36 | tmzt | git clone git://git.linuxtogo.org/home/groups/mobile-linux/kernel.git |
| 07:59.24 | tmzt | git checkout htc-vogue |
| 08:02.34 | Marajin | yeah |
| 08:02.42 | Marajin | I managed to work that one out but thanks anyway |
| 08:02.51 | Marajin | the clone's still running |
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| 08:48.05 | Marajin | man this git clone is slow |
| 08:48.14 | Marajin | don't suppose anyone could just do a quick compile to save me time? |
| 08:49.03 | captnoord | you can compile with multiple cpu's |
| 08:51.13 | Marajin | captnoord: I'm not compiling, I'm doing a git clone |
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| 08:51.40 | Marajin | I use a quad xeon for compiling, it's pretty speedy anyway, but it's LTG's bandwidth being an issue here I think |
| 08:51.56 | captnoord | I see |
| 08:52.54 | Marajin | woot! I can see in my right eye again |
| 08:52.56 | Marajin | just about |
| 08:53.13 | captnoord | I can almost feel my right foot.... |
| 08:53.41 | Marajin | bah, who needs feet, you don't type with them, they're not necessary for geekery |
| 08:53.44 | Marajin | eyesight helps though |
| 08:54.09 | captnoord | mumbles "walk to the coffee machine?" |
| 08:54.23 | Marajin | real geeks have an IV drip! |
| 08:54.29 | captnoord | hehe |
| 08:54.37 | captnoord | thanks NetRipper for fixing the TS |
| 08:54.49 | Marajin | though doing that would potentially cause the vein to collapse |
| 08:54.51 | Marajin | but hey! |
| 08:55.29 | xsacha | marajin: i have a special foot keyboard for doing shift, alt, ctrl, etc.. |
| 08:55.36 | xsacha | improves typing speed considerably |
| 08:55.59 | captnoord | seriously? |
| 08:56.01 | captnoord | lol |
| 08:56.12 | xsacha | so feet are important |
| 08:56.28 | xsacha | stops them from going dead or getting unhealthy or losing muscles |
| 08:57.05 | captnoord | yup |
| 08:57.17 | Marajin | xsach a ctrl+alt+delete pedal'd be nice for windows :P |
| 08:57.28 | xsacha | i think my leg muscles are 50% stronger than other geek leg muscles because of this keyboard |
| 08:57.34 | Marajin | heh |
| 08:57.35 | Marajin | not mine |
| 08:57.52 | Marajin | mine are strong because I weigh so damn much and walking with my weight kinda maintains muscle |
| 08:58.02 | xsacha | wait.. you walk? |
| 08:58.16 | xsacha | havent you caught a sla.. i mean wife yet? to fetch those things that require walking |
| 08:58.35 | Marajin | I have a long term girlfriend but yeah I walk |
| 08:58.47 | xsacha | well maybe you should order a SegWay |
| 08:58.55 | Marajin | I'd probably break it |
| 08:59.01 | Marajin | and they can't do stairs |
| 08:59.08 | xsacha | stairs? oh no that won't do |
| 08:59.10 | xsacha | install a lift |
| 09:00.56 | Marajin | heh |
| 09:01.04 | Marajin | nah it's good to be a big geek |
| 09:01.07 | Marajin | nobody bothers you |
| 09:01.22 | Marajin | 'Will you fix my comp..' 'grr **flex**' 'nevermind' |
| 09:04.06 | captnoord | I have a magical word |
| 09:04.12 | captnoord | screams NO |
| 09:04.28 | Marajin | I used to have a TG cup that said it |
| 09:05.32 | xsacha | "will you fix my comp" "so, in the laundry or in the bed?" |
| 09:05.45 | Marajin | captnoord: you can always just try staring at them and waving a screwdriver |
| 09:05.57 | Marajin | xsacha: behave yourself! geeks aren't meant to get laid :P |
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| 10:03.46 | dcordes-x1 | moinmoin |
| 10:14.54 | xsacha | noigt noigt |
| 10:22.01 | Marajin | hey dcordes-x1 |
| 10:23.44 | Marajin | dcordes-x1: are you using a newer zImage from git? |
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| 10:40.35 | Marajin | tmzt: heh, it segfaults when compiling init/calibrate.c -.- |
| 10:44.31 | dcordes-x1 | tmzt on kais? no |
| 10:44.56 | dcordes-x1 | I added something yesterday whcih doesn't work |
| 10:44.59 | dcordes-x1 | good eh |
| 10:45.15 | dcordes-x1 | also dzo added un/partially tested stuff |
| 10:45.37 | dcordes-x1 | so it's not a good moment to pull and buils now |
| 10:45.38 | dcordes-x1 | d |
| 10:47.45 | Marajin | dcordes-x1: great >.< So, um, have you used any builds on kaiser that didn't actually show any traces of the sd bug? |
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| 11:19.31 | dcordes-x1 | Marajin I did not see any SD problems in the dzo builds (vogue linux website) |
| 11:19.46 | Marajin | dcordes-x1: it's weird cause I DEFINITELY get them still |
| 11:19.51 | dcordes-x1 | maybe your card/filesystem are b0rked ? |
| 11:19.56 | Marajin | heh |
| 11:20.04 | Marajin | maybe but I don't have another card to test |
| 11:20.19 | dcordes-x1 | I have collected some |
| 11:20.25 | dcordes-x1 | got 5 or so |
| 11:20.32 | dcordes-x1 | sdhc and non |
| 11:20.36 | Marajin | hmm |
| 11:20.48 | dcordes-x1 | maybe borrow one and try |
| 11:20.55 | dcordes-x1 | bbiab lunchtime |
| 11:20.58 | Marajin | I guess, my dad should have a 2 gb card |
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| 11:46.07 | dcordes-x1 | mickeyl hi there! |
| 11:46.46 | dcordes-x1 | how's it going? are you in love with htc already? |
| 11:47.27 | mickeyl | hey dcordes-x1 |
| 11:47.29 | mickeyl | ah well |
| 11:47.30 | mickeyl | so and so |
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| 11:47.43 | mickeyl | good thing is i like the hardware |
| 11:47.51 | mickeyl | bad thing is i had some problems getting a rootfs running |
| 11:48.04 | mickeyl | i have a new one now which I'll try later tonite |
| 11:48.14 | mickeyl | will get back to you then |
| 11:48.39 | mickeyl | then we should also talk about the state of HTClinux in OE |
| 11:48.48 | mickeyl | but not now, need to do a release today |
| 11:49.11 | dcordes-x1 | I second that |
| 11:49.42 | xsacha | why do htc's new phones still have ~500mhz processors? |
| 11:49.58 | xsacha | thought they'd bump it up a little |
| 11:49.59 | dcordes-x1 | can't deal with it today either. well I can try but that's prolly a bad idea :) |
| 11:50.25 | mickeyl | righto |
| 11:50.32 | mickeyl | march is pretty full for me |
| 11:50.37 | mickeyl | but in april we should have a meeting |
| 11:50.42 | dcordes-x1 | ok |
| 11:50.58 | mickeyl | looking forward to making the HTC a fully supported FSO device ;) |
| 11:51.06 | mickeyl | or a device family |
| 11:51.13 | dcordes-x1 | wee can achieve this in no time |
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| 12:13.52 | dcordes-x1 | sinks in craploads o smelly laundry |
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| 12:23.18 | balsat | netripper wrote: well many people report that SMS send works, SMS receive too, making a phone call too, but receiving a phone call does not... not sure if that's an android issue or a kernel issue |
| 12:24.23 | balsat | In my Android build the icomming call do work, i can upload the system and data image if someone will host it? |
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| 12:41.17 | xsacha | what phone is that for? |
| 12:41.21 | xsacha | kaiser has calls working i think |
| 12:43.54 | dcordes-x1 | xsacha do you have kais? |
| 12:44.04 | xsacha | no |
| 12:47.26 | mickeyl | hmm |
| 12:47.35 | mickeyl | i tried bumping the raphael kernel but this one no longer boots |
| 12:47.42 | mickeyl | maybe defconfig changes |
| 12:47.49 | mickeyl | i think we should just use the upstream defconfig |
| 12:47.53 | mickeyl | and not place our own defconfig in OE |
| 12:47.57 | mickeyl | any objections to that? |
| 12:50.37 | balsat | xsacha: Diamond and raphael |
| 12:53.02 | balsat | But it should work on other phones |
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| 13:52.24 | Bushman | ave |
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| 13:56.52 | Untouchab1e | Hi all |
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| 14:23.01 | balsat | Hey Untouchab1e, i am uploading the .27 image and a new Android image to your server but it takes a while, mabye you can check it out later? |
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| 15:03.31 | uncola | whoah... tons of people |
| 15:03.39 | Untouchab1e | hah |
| 15:10.55 | mickeyl | all idling, don't be scared |
| 15:11.36 | uncola | they want to rape me |
| 15:11.40 | uncola | I must flee |
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| 15:30.21 | captnoord | re |
| 15:30.27 | captnoord | 'back from a long day of shopping |
| 15:30.31 | captnoord | but not buying |
| 15:37.53 | AstainHasPS3 | morning |
| 15:41.08 | captnoord | after noon |
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| 15:55.35 | Untouchab1e | Anyone here run Android on their Kaiser, Vogue or Polaris? |
| 15:56.22 | captnoord | the raphael here..... so sorry |
| 15:56.43 | Untouchab1e | Testing a new Android build for the raph right now btw ;) |
| 15:57.21 | xsacha | i need it on i780 :) |
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| 16:23.47 | xsacha | omg this is not cool, my phone is shown running Android beautifully in this video: http://exabyte.es/omnia/2009/02/video-con-linux-corriendo-en-omnia/ |
| 16:23.54 | xsacha | where do i find this? |
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| 16:28.03 | captnoord | our wiki |
| 16:28.35 | captnoord | and please use search |
| 16:28.55 | xsacha | ummm |
| 16:29.10 | xsacha | it's not a htc phone.. samsung |
| 16:29.15 | captnoord | I see |
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| 16:29.26 | xsacha | and sorry, it's limo linux |
| 16:29.44 | captnoord | isn't this channel -> htc-linux lol |
| 16:29.45 | captnoord | nah |
| 16:29.46 | captnoord | dude |
| 16:29.47 | captnoord | its ok |
| 16:29.50 | captnoord | linux == linux |
| 16:29.55 | captnoord | as in mobile device |
| 16:33.05 | xsacha | damn, cant d/l it. they are selling it |
| 16:35.17 | captnoord | lol |
| 16:35.19 | captnoord | fools |
| 16:35.32 | Untouchab1e | New build for the raph posted (connect-utb.com) |
| 16:35.39 | captnoord | yea I know |
| 16:35.46 | captnoord | and everybody seem to download it |
| 16:36.09 | Untouchab1e | erm? I just posted it 2 mins ago? |
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| 16:37.45 | krisje8 | Wow, quite a lot of people here |
| 16:37.50 | Untouchab1e | all idle off course |
| 16:38.00 | ali1234 | why do people keep saying that today? |
| 16:38.06 | krisje8 | as I will be too :) |
| 16:38.14 | Untouchab1e | hah |
| 16:38.36 | krisje8 | more people noticed this? well maybe then there really are a lot of people |
| 16:40.31 | krisje8 | Is this just for android or linux in general? |
| 16:40.53 | captnoord | both kinda |
| 16:41.00 | captnoord | but more for linux I gues |
| 16:44.01 | Untouchab1e | I would say that its more Android though :) |
| 16:44.10 | Untouchab1e | but since Android is based on Linux, its all the same.. hah |
| 16:45.20 | xsacha | well what would you want on your phone (linux-based) other than Android? |
| 16:45.28 | xsacha | there's LiMo but apparently they dont have any downloads |
| 16:45.30 | Untouchab1e | openMoko? |
| 16:45.40 | xsacha | openMoko on htc? |
| 16:46.03 | xsacha | why? |
| 16:46.18 | Untouchab1e | hah, dunno :) |
| 16:46.30 | Untouchab1e | Im only keen on Android, so.. yeah |
| 16:47.38 | xsacha | http://grigio.org/howto_openmoko_htc_magician_s100_dual_boot_wince ok there is a fair reason why |
| 16:47.47 | xsacha | but you can get android on that device anyway |
| 16:47.57 | hechu | I am using a HTC-Kaiser mobile phone, it seems the radio version caused some problem of 'haret' booting, is there somebody tell me what version of radio do you used? |
| 16:49.14 | hechu | anybody ? |
| 16:54.49 | hechu | here I uploaded a video file of my kaiser runs android. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Nhz0-wqYI0 |
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| 16:56.59 | Untouchab1e | hechu, I am unsure.. but I booted Android fine on a Kaiser with a stock Norwegian ROM |
| 16:58.36 | hechu | Untouchab1e, thank you. I can boot android with 'HaRET', but it freeze on 100% random. |
| 16:59.11 | hechu | I searched from internet, and they say it's related with radio version. here is the url: http://www.androidonhtc.com/kaiser/install |
| 16:59.28 | krisje8 | Well, I don't really care which linux I get on my kaiser, as long as it works well :). Most important for me would be wifi and console apps |
| 16:59.55 | krisje8 | Android would be nice, as that will actually make my htc feel like a phone |
| 17:00.44 | Untouchab1e | krisje8, Android runs fine on the Kaiser |
| 17:00.50 | krisje8 | no wifi yet |
| 17:00.50 | Untouchab1e | its one of the phone' |
| 17:00.53 | Untouchab1e | ih,, |
| 17:00.55 | Untouchab1e | oh* |
| 17:01.00 | Untouchab1e | thought they had that nailed down actually |
| 17:01.03 | krisje8 | nope |
| 17:01.10 | krisje8 | now ifi, bt, cam, gps, ... |
| 17:01.32 | hechu | krisje8, YEAH, wifi is very important. you know, in China, there is no 3G service yet. The telecommunication carrier says they will support 3G on this year, but who knows, so I just waiting the WIFI driver for my kaiser. |
| 17:01.33 | krisje8 | but they just started on wifi |
| 17:01.47 | krisje8 | I prefer wifi as it can be faster and free ;) |
| 17:01.55 | krisje8 | I do have 3G, but it's so expensive |
| 17:02.08 | Marajin | allo allo |
| 17:02.25 | krisje8 | hechu: I use latest radio rom, 1.71.something |
| 17:02.27 | hechu | ha, |
| 17:02.49 | hechu | krisje8, thank you. |
| 17:03.20 | krisje8 | make sure you have a recent win6.1 rom, otherwise you're radio may not work completely in winmo |
| 17:03.43 | Marajin | Untouchab1e: hey man, ya know when you were tinkering to get android on your (friends?) kaiser? |
| 17:04.13 | hechu | yes, I wonder if the phone can work properly after I upgrade my kaiser's radio. |
| 17:04.29 | krisje8 | try it out, you can always take an older radio |
| 17:04.29 | hechu | I won't upgrade/reflash my ROM. |
| 17:04.34 | Untouchab1e | yeh? I got it booted Marajin |
| 17:04.48 | krisje8 | hechu: is it stock? winmo 6.0 or 6.1? |
| 17:04.50 | Untouchab1e | i just had to change the path to the image files in the default.txt to reflect the proper localization ;) |
| 17:04.51 | Marajin | Untouchab1e: I know but, did you have any SD errors during bootup? |
| 17:05.00 | Untouchab1e | I didnt notice I'm afraid |
| 17:05.26 | Marajin | Untouchab1e: they're pretty obvious =/ I still seem to have errors and it's odd cause people seem to think the kaiser SD bugs are ironed out now |
| 17:05.27 | Untouchab1e | I was in a hurry and was mainly just curious as to how it would run. |
| 17:05.43 | Marajin | I'm gonna ahve to try a different card or something |
| 17:06.04 | Marajin | hechu: I've never heard of a radio problem causing haret to freeze completely |
| 17:06.19 | Marajin | hechu: some roms sometimes stop it booting intermittantly but it's usually like 1 in 20 boots freeze |
| 17:07.09 | hechu | krisje8, what I use is a homebrew ROM. because the kaiser is not sale in China offically. There is no official Chinese ROM, -- I am a Chinese. |
| 17:07.35 | hechu | Marajin, all right, I search the information from the website : http://www.androidonhtc.com/kaiser/install |
| 17:08.01 | hechu | Marajin, the section Troubleshooting |
| 17:08.19 | krisje8 | hechu: ah ok, you got a fair chance of the radio working then |
| 17:09.03 | ali1234 | haha black magic |
| 17:09.12 | Marajin | hey ali1234, long time |
| 17:09.18 | ali1234 | hi Marajin |
| 17:09.36 | Marajin | how's it going? |
| 17:10.00 | ali1234 | well we have omap shared memory working now :) |
| 17:10.13 | Marajin | nice |
| 17:10.41 | ali1234 | its almost identical to MSM |
| 17:10.49 | Marajin | cool, nice when things work easily ;) |
| 17:11.04 | ali1234 | i can't see a way that radio rom could affect haret though, it just doesn't work like that |
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| 17:11.18 | krisje8 | it certainly did on mine |
| 17:11.22 | hechu | krisje8, I checked my phone, it's WM 6.1. professional. |
| 17:11.29 | ali1234 | the radio rom doesn't even run on the same CPU |
| 17:11.31 | krisje8 | it'll porbably work then |
| 17:11.50 | krisje8 | ali1234: all I know is that it's all over the forums that you should use a fairly new radio with android |
| 17:11.56 | krisje8 | and it fixed my problemw hen I had one with haret |
| 17:12.23 | ali1234 | i never go on forums cos they are full of hand-waving and black magic like that |
| 17:12.48 | krisje8 | that's where the most information is |
| 17:13.14 | Marajin | interesting |
| 17:13.21 | Marajin | I haven't seen any SD errors with this 2GB card =/ |
| 17:13.33 | ali1234 | information yes, correct information no |
| 17:13.41 | Marajin | I wonder if my 4GB card is buggered |
| 17:14.21 | krisje8 | well, actually, I would prefer the xda forums over irc, it already helped me so well |
| 17:14.32 | krisje8 | and on irc you need to hop you're talking ot the right person |
| 17:14.36 | krisje8 | and that he's actually online |
| 17:14.52 | krisje8 | and he needs to say the same things over and over |
| 17:15.14 | krisje8 | to different people |
| 17:15.40 | hechu | hehe ... |
| 17:16.05 | krisje8 | I had a stock vodafone kaiser, it's now a kaiser with a fine fast rom, latest radio rom, good interface, and I can try the latest changes on android out |
| 17:16.08 | krisje8 | all thanks to the forums |
| 17:16.11 | Marajin | well the IM app still won't start and the google login service crashes if I click any buttons heh |
| 17:17.10 | krisje8 | I hope they will add monitoring support for the Kaisers wifi in android ... |
| 17:19.39 | ali1234 | android just uses the kernel interface |
| 17:19.45 | hechu | I still did not got the meaning of "IM", because it crashed on my kaiser. Is IM means "instance message" or "input method". I am very interesting in "input method" of Chinese. hehe .... |
| 17:20.28 | ali1234 | can anybody disassemble my SPL and send me the code? |
| 17:20.36 | Marajin | hechu: Instance Message |
| 17:20.44 | Marajin | it's googletalk for android |
| 17:20.49 | hechu | Marajin, oh, thank you. |
| 17:22.46 | hechu | I need Chinese input method to send SMS to my parent. hehe . |
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| 17:27.09 | c4software | hi everyone |
| 17:27.23 | hechu | ;-) |
| 17:27.57 | krisje8 | hi |
| 17:28.32 | hechu | I got sleep now, it's 1:27 AM now in my local time. bye guys. thank you for your information and wish WIFI driver can come out earlier. hehe . |
| 17:28.42 | c4software | bye hechu |
| 17:28.56 | krisje8 | sai jian hechu |
| 17:29.29 | c4software | oh no, i would try to fix the navipad problem on 2.6.27 kernel for diamond, but my Vm seems corrupt... |
| 17:29.33 | hechu | krisje8, wahooo,, sounds like you are speaking Chinese. |
| 17:29.48 | hechu | krisje8, zai jian. |
| 17:29.49 | krisje8 | hechu: just this ;) |
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| 17:29.59 | hechu | hehe. |
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| 17:41.17 | exco_ | Untouchab1e: sure... I'm running it on Polaris, |
| 17:41.43 | Untouchab1e | exco, hi.. just curious as to if you have made any observations regarding battery life in WinMo compared to in Android |
| 17:42.33 | exco_ | imo battery collapse doesn't work on Polaris yet (on Vogue and Kaiser afair it works) |
| 17:42.54 | exco_ | so my last test (which was some time ago) was 12h with screen off |
| 17:43.02 | exco_ | so not really usable ;-) |
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| 17:46.57 | Untouchab1e | Back.. got disconnected |
| 17:48.24 | c4software | hi Untouchab1e |
| 17:48.28 | Untouchab1e | hi mate |
| 17:49.04 | c4software | You have see my post on xda ? |
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| 17:49.28 | Untouchab1e | yeah |
| 17:49.30 | Untouchab1e | just read it |
| 17:49.41 | Untouchab1e | regarding the navipad? |
| 17:50.00 | c4software | yep |
| 17:50.20 | c4software | i don't have my linux here to try to fix the problem |
| 17:50.56 | Untouchab1e | Sadly, my linux setup crashed yesterday |
| 17:51.02 | Untouchab1e | I havent gotten around to fix it yet.. heh |
| 17:51.45 | c4software | its the entire bottom of the diam. home button as like left key for example |
| 17:51.46 | c4software | ^^ |
| 17:52.20 | c4software | its correct on the raph, but not on diam. |
| 17:53.25 | c4software | but touchscreen and system speed are really better on 2.6.27 |
| 17:53.35 | captnoord | yup |
| 17:53.38 | captnoord | for me at last |
| 17:53.47 | captnoord | it reads the time from the chip and stuff |
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| 17:55.32 | c4software | and the clock its correct on the 2.6.27 :D |
| 17:55.34 | c4software | lol |
| 17:56.14 | Untouchab1e | yeah.. |
| 17:56.27 | Untouchab1e | the clock works..and I also noticed significantly improved performance.. |
| 17:56.34 | Untouchab1e | most likely due to that second memory bank |
| 17:57.40 | c4software | yep :). when the navipad is mapped correctly on diam1xx i could test it more correctly. |
| 17:57.59 | Untouchab1e | Yeah |
| 17:58.17 | Untouchab1e | Thanks for bringing up that issue.. Il wait with publishing a Diamond build untill its fixed |
| 17:58.54 | krisje8 | oh just a side question btw, how come android on kaiser doesn't have tools like lspci ? |
| 17:59.16 | captnoord | what was that usb website? |
| 17:59.18 | captnoord | can't remember |
| 17:59.59 | c4software | connect-usb ? |
| 18:00.15 | captnoord | thanks |
| 18:00.18 | Untouchab1e | lol |
| 18:00.22 | Untouchab1e | Its my site |
| 18:00.25 | captnoord | I exedently cleared my bookmarks adns tuff |
| 18:00.26 | captnoord | I know |
| 18:00.30 | Untouchab1e | but didnt understand what you meant with "usb website" ^^ |
| 18:00.51 | Untouchab1e | its connect-utb though |
| 18:00.56 | Untouchab1e | not usb |
| 18:01.02 | Untouchab1e | hehe |
| 18:01.23 | exco_ | krisje8: would there be sense to lspci on android? |
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| 18:03.00 | exco_ | nick |
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| 18:06.39 | lupine_85m | afternoon |
| 18:06.56 | Untouchab1e | Hi lupine |
| 18:07.09 | Untouchab1e | You exited about the working touch screen too? :D |
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| 18:07.44 | lupine_85m | erm, donno. didn't the rph touchscreen already work? |
| 18:07.51 | lupine_85m | raph* and dunno* |
| 18:07.51 | Untouchab1e | no on .27 |
| 18:08.01 | captnoord | nope |
| 18:08.02 | lupine_85m | ah |
| 18:08.09 | captnoord | because of a defconfig thingy |
| 18:08.11 | captnoord | :( |
| 18:08.13 | Untouchab1e | For some reason it only worked during calls.. |
| 18:08.17 | lupine_85m | i've not played with .27 really |
| 18:08.31 | Untouchab1e | You should give the newest build a go then.. Quite the difference in performance |
| 18:08.44 | lupine_85m | sounds nice :) |
| 18:09.02 | lupine_85m | i might have a play tomorrow |
| 18:09.04 | krisje8 | exco_: it would allow me to show the hardware names ;) |
| 18:09.13 | lupine_85m | i'll be remote working :) :) |
| 18:09.51 | c4software | call works on your raph Untouchab1e ? |
| 18:10.19 | c4software | on the lastest release, i only can make call. |
| 18:10.30 | lupine_85m | with sound? :p |
| 18:10.54 | c4software | no no without sound |
| 18:10.54 | c4software | :P |
| 18:11.01 | Untouchab1e | I can get calls, yeah |
| 18:11.06 | lupine_85m | thought so :D |
| 18:11.13 | Untouchab1e | without sound off course, but still get incomming calls |
| 18:11.34 | lupine_85m | presumably androidy? |
| 18:11.58 | lupine_85m | or is angstrom coming together now? |
| 18:12.28 | c4software | ha you can receive call, on my diam100 its drop the call. |
| 18:13.02 | exco_ | krisje8: well you already know what hardware is in there |
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| 18:15.45 | krisje8 | exco_: not the real brands and types |
| 18:15.59 | krisje8 | I just know it has 'some wifi adapter' and 'some gps adapter' |
| 18:16.24 | lupine_85m | argh, this is a crap irc client |
| 18:16.32 | exco_ | you can look it up on the xda-devs wiki, krisje8 |
| 18:16.33 | Untouchab1e | use HydraIRC |
| 18:16.41 | Untouchab1e | (if you're in Windows) |
| 18:17.08 | lupine_85m | what is this 'windows' of which you speak? :p |
| 18:17.13 | Untouchab1e | lol |
| 18:17.16 | lupine_85m | well, in wm right now |
| 18:17.29 | lupine_85m | but that's literally all the windows i have |
| 18:17.49 | lupine_85m | and it'll be gone as soon as i can has android |
| 18:17.54 | lupine_85m | or angstrom |
| 18:18.22 | lupine_85m | speaking of which, the new htc android - is it diamondish? |
| 18:19.19 | AstainHasPS3 | nope |
| 18:19.29 | AstainHasPS3 | lupine_85 it looks just like g1 minus keyboard |
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| 18:22.42 | krisje8 | best irc client for windows is irssi through putty :p |
| 18:22.50 | sleepr | :) |
| 18:22.51 | AstainHasPS3 | mirc works just fine too |
| 18:22.54 | lupine_85m | boo |
| 18:23.07 | krisje8 | but you can't idle on mirc if you turn pc off |
| 18:23.11 | krisje8 | ;) |
| 18:23.23 | lupine_85m | and yep, I've got that but my screen is optimised for 1280x1024 |
| 18:23.40 | lupine_85m | not much use on this one |
| 18:24.41 | lupine_85m | stupid train |
| 18:25.07 | sleepr | im trying to load up android on my raph100, but it stops at "mmc1: host does not support reading read-only switch. assuming write-enable. mmc1: new SD card at adress m624 mmcblk0: mmc1:e624 SU02G 1985024KiB. mmcblk0: pl" |
| 18:25.19 | sleepr | what am i doing wrong? :) |
| 18:25.31 | sleepr | downloaded the lastest rar from untouchable from the forums |
| 18:26.09 | sleepr | i prefer irssi via putty too, so i can ssh from my phone or any comp to my home server :) |
| 18:27.34 | lupine_85m | wonders if angstrom with a viewport of 1280x1024 would be worth the hassle |
| 18:28.21 | lupine_85m | i've not used virtual desktops since the days of 640x480 monitors |
| 18:29.57 | captnoord | Untouchab1e: nice build..... |
| 18:30.02 | captnoord | for people who want to test it |
| 18:30.03 | captnoord | :D |
| 18:30.39 | AstainHasPS3 | curious now that we have phone stuffs closer how close are we to data and sms working on raph100? |
| 18:31.08 | captnoord | to quote dream theater "only a matter of time" |
| 18:31.24 | captnoord | researching stuff on unix is quite new for me.... as I only did windows stuff |
| 18:31.44 | captnoord | it will take some time before I can actualy help |
| 18:32.10 | captnoord | but I have a hidden desire that I want my phone to run linux only |
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| 18:32.34 | AstainHasPS3 | I like the dual boot style |
| 18:32.34 | lupine_85m | had a vague idea of how to play with the obvious - input devices and the like - but not a clue with the obscure |
| 18:32.56 | captnoord | i'll settle for that |
| 18:38.50 | Marajin | 'lo |
| 18:39.26 | captnoord | yo |
| 18:39.39 | lupine_85m | i can't wait to be ablt to take windows off |
| 18:39.46 | Marajin | heh |
| 18:40.32 | Marajin | krisje8: heh, yes that is exactly the best way to use IRC ;) 's what I do. That's how I idle for months at at time |
| 18:40.54 | lupine_85m | 'though i dunno how plausible that is |
| 18:41.42 | Marajin | lupine_85m: it's plenty plausible |
| 18:42.05 | Marajin | but nobody bothers to write ways to completely clean windows off before the linux/android is completely working otherwise |
| 18:42.10 | lupine_85m | has a server in ifl that does that |
| 18:42.10 | lupine_85m | i might bitlbee it again some time |
| 18:43.49 | captnoord | Marajin: i'm happy with the current situation |
| 18:43.57 | captnoord | untill everything is full supported |
| 18:44.01 | krisje8 | yup |
| 18:44.11 | captnoord | mainly because its btter to be safe then sorry |
| 18:44.12 | krisje8 | hopefully including monitoring support for the wifi drivers :p |
| 18:44.38 | captnoord | hmmm |
| 18:44.40 | lupine_85m | mmhm :) |
| 18:44.46 | captnoord | just take 1 step at the time |
| 18:44.58 | krisje8 | yea ok.. but that would be just awesome |
| 18:45.02 | krisje8 | kismet on my mobile phone :D |
| 18:45.02 | captnoord | try to get more users by dealing with basic stuff first |
| 18:45.06 | mickeyl | ok, raphael boots now through until init 3, but |
| 18:45.07 | captnoord | and do the wifi stuff after |
| 18:45.17 | mickeyl | hardware keyboard is not generating any keys |
| 18:45.18 | krisje8 | without wifi I have no internet, no internet, almost no use :p |
| 18:45.22 | mickeyl | and usb is not reacting |
| 18:45.30 | mickeyl | so i'm kind of "locked out" |
| 18:45.35 | captnoord | krisje8: I have internet trough my laptop |
| 18:45.42 | krisje8 | on android? |
| 18:45.42 | mickeyl | any ideas wrt. hardware keys? |
| 18:45.48 | captnoord | nope |
| 18:45.52 | captnoord | but the stuff is pressent |
| 18:47.29 | mickeyl | only the left 4 keys on the front side emit a keycode |
| 18:47.45 | tmzt | mickeyl: what kernel are you using? |
| 18:48.06 | mickeyl | 2.6.25-msm a revision a couple of days old |
| 18:48.36 | mickeyl | zImage-2.6.25+r4+gitr1a4d3e8a1c7174931409017252a36ceceb10174e-r4-htcraphael.bin |
| 18:48.55 | mickeyl | that one didn't boot at all |
| 18:48.57 | mickeyl | then i reverted back to |
| 18:49.23 | tmzt | maejrep committed the keyboard support, not sure if it's on that branch though |
| 18:49.33 | captnoord | mickeyl: and if you try this one |
| 18:49.34 | captnoord | http://connect-utb.com/index.php?option=com_jdownloads&Itemid=58&task=summary&cid=24&catid=4 |
| 18:50.07 | tmzt | Marajin: did you get that to compile or you think the builds are ok, just your card? |
| 18:51.37 | mickeyl | so is 2.6.25 not the preferred one these days? |
| 18:51.45 | mickeyl | which revision is the most recommended one? |
| 18:51.53 | captnoord | http://connect-utb.com/index.php?option=com_jdownloads&Itemid=58&task=summary&cid=24&catid=4 |
| 18:51.55 | mickeyl | head of msm-2.6.27? |
| 18:51.56 | captnoord | download that one |
| 18:52.01 | captnoord | yup |
| 18:52.07 | mickeyl | what is in that .rar? |
| 18:52.08 | captnoord | I run my own build |
| 18:52.20 | mickeyl | note that i'm not interested in android per se, i just need a kernel |
| 18:52.21 | captnoord | thats one of the default releases of Untouchab1e |
| 18:52.30 | captnoord | and that one works |
| 18:52.34 | captnoord | also |
| 18:52.42 | captnoord | you should do a soft reset |
| 18:52.48 | captnoord | before you run android |
| 18:52.51 | captnoord | linux* |
| 18:53.01 | mickeyl | well, i don't want to run android, but thanks |
| 18:53.11 | mickeyl | i just need to find out which the best kernel is |
| 18:53.18 | mickeyl | so we can get this into OE |
| 18:53.20 | captnoord | then its the latest |
| 18:53.24 | mickeyl | ok, cool |
| 18:53.29 | captnoord | because it features all the writen device drivers |
| 18:53.36 | mickeyl | sounds good |
| 18:53.42 | captnoord | not all |
| 18:53.47 | captnoord | and it needs a whole lotta love |
| 18:54.03 | mickeyl | sure thing, i need a kickstart, because i'm the userland & middleware guy |
| 18:54.36 | mickeyl | i'll try yours before continuing to build stuff |
| 18:54.38 | mickeyl | thanks |
| 18:55.00 | captnoord | its not mine.... but it is the kickstart into htc_linux |
| 18:55.10 | captnoord | because you have a kinda working gui |
| 18:55.12 | captnoord | thingy |
| 18:55.13 | captnoord | stuff |
| 18:55.15 | captnoord | and test bla bla |
| 18:55.19 | captnoord | slaps himself |
| 18:58.51 | mickeyl | does the SD in-and-out dance and reboots |
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| 19:00.43 | mickeyl | ok, lets see now |
| 19:04.02 | mickeyl | woot, hardware keyboard works with that |
| 19:04.11 | mickeyl | now lets try usbeth |
| 19:05.38 | mickeyl | no |
| 19:05.49 | mickeyl | nothing moving |
| 19:11.36 | tmzt | mickeyl: what's it doing? it should be usbnet unless this version has adb for android |
| 19:11.51 | tmzt | which could be the case, you really need to build 2.6.27 from git |
| 19:11.52 | mickeyl | well, it's doing nothing |
| 19:11.58 | mickeyl | ifconfig reports usb0 being up and running |
| 19:12.00 | tmzt | lsusb -v -v pastebin? |
| 19:12.08 | tmzt | oh |
| 19:12.12 | tmzt | on the pc? |
| 19:12.15 | mickeyl | but the host does nothing |
| 19:12.22 | mickeyl | no, on the phone |
| 19:12.23 | tmzt | and do you have usb1? |
| 19:12.30 | mickeyl | usb1 is not present on the phone, no |
| 19:12.32 | mickeyl | should it? |
| 19:12.35 | tmzt | no |
| 19:12.47 | mickeyl | let me check lsusb |
| 19:12.48 | tmzt | do you have usbnet module loaded on the pc? |
| 19:13.07 | mickeyl | is it not using cdc_ether? |
| 19:13.37 | tmzt | no, I think usbnet |
| 19:13.42 | mickeyl | oh |
| 19:14.21 | sleepr | got a bit longer with this time.. "init: cannot find /system/bin/sh', disabling 'console'" and then i get like 7-8 more lines with cannot find... |
| 19:14.45 | sleepr | should i just wait or am i screwed :D |
| 19:14.55 | tmzt | sleepr: did you extract system.img to the root? |
| 19:15.18 | sleepr | eumh.. might have missed that one :) |
| 19:15.33 | tmzt | are you using an sd card for this? |
| 19:15.40 | sleepr | yes |
| 19:15.47 | tmzt | with ext2 partition? |
| 19:16.06 | sleepr | nope :) |
| 19:16.21 | sleepr | do i need an ext2? |
| 19:16.23 | tmzt | then I'm not sure, I guess you just put the files on the card |
| 19:16.33 | tmzt | depends on your instructions/scripts |
| 19:17.02 | sleepr | oh ok, im using untouchables latest, and by his instructions i dont think i need and ext2 part. |
| 19:17.13 | mickeyl | http://rafb.net/p/mjYw0S12.html is from PC |
| 19:17.16 | mickeyl | no sign of the phone |
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| 19:21.21 | mickeyl | ok, i'll build one from the 2.6.27 branch |
| 19:22.38 | tmzt | anyything in dmesg? |
| 19:23.07 | mickeyl | nothing |
| 19:23.10 | mickeyl | as if i would not connect |
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| 19:33.01 | mickeyl | 2.6.27-defconfig should lead to useful usb or do i need to explicitly enable it? |
| 19:34.29 | mickeyl | hmm |
| 19:34.36 | mickeyl | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:34.48 | mickeyl | guess that answers it |
| 19:35.00 | mickeyl | patching then |
| 19:37.30 | mickeyl | which controller to select? |
| 19:37.36 | mickeyl | renesas or msm 72k? |
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| 19:40.16 | tmzt | mickeyl: it's using function I think, not gadget |
| 19:40.24 | tmzt | mickeyl: not sure if msm7200 works or not |
| 19:40.29 | mickeyl | hmm |
| 19:40.33 | mickeyl | ok |
| 19:40.35 | mickeyl | *sigh* |
| 19:40.36 | cr2 | tmzt: usb1 is disabled now |
| 19:40.53 | tmzt | good, can you help mickeyl then |
| 19:41.18 | cr2 | i don't know why NetRipper did not commit has defconfig |
| 19:41.20 | mickeyl | i just need a self-built kernel that boots into my userland with usbeth, then i'll leave you guys and start doing my share of work :) |
| 19:42.05 | cr2 | mickeyl: all the code is in linuxtogo git |
| 19:42.36 | mickeyl | good. arch/arm/configs/htcraphael_defconfig will give me usb? |
| 19:43.39 | cr2 | check |
| 19:44.15 | cr2 | i have not compiled and run the kernel for a long time |
| 19:44.26 | mickeyl | heh, what are you guys doing with your devices? |
| 19:44.34 | mickeyl | please don't tell me you actually run WM |
| 19:44.39 | cr2 | lol |
| 19:44.58 | mickeyl | considers WM to be a bootloader, yes... a frickin' huge one |
| 19:45.15 | cr2 | mickeyl: i did a fair share of the raph RE |
| 19:45.16 | tmzt | cr2: did you find the MPU problem? |
| 19:45.29 | mickeyl | RE? |
| 19:45.42 | cr2 | reverse engineering |
| 19:45.45 | mickeyl | ah |
| 19:45.48 | mickeyl | amazing |
| 19:45.52 | ali1234 | cr2: do you know how to disassemble SPL? |
| 19:46.02 | mickeyl | crazy work, really. hats off |
| 19:46.11 | Marajin | sigh, sometimes I want to hurt people are microsoft |
| 19:46.27 | Marajin | hurray for windows refusing to change the partition table for flash cards |
| 19:46.38 | captnoord | thanks cr2 |
| 19:46.43 | captnoord | for the RE part |
| 19:46.53 | captnoord | nah |
| 19:46.54 | mickeyl | we should maintain a free-linux defconfig |
| 19:46.56 | captnoord | for everything you did |
| 19:47.00 | mickeyl | this defconfig is so polluted with droid stuff |
| 19:47.01 | mickeyl | *sigh* |
| 19:47.06 | ali1234 | mickeyl: it is possible to avoid WM/haret for booting on HTC... they are capable of booting from SD card directly |
| 19:47.19 | mickeyl | ali1234: oh! that'd rock. how? |
| 19:47.50 | cr2 | tmzt: it needs more work, but the code looks good |
| 19:48.25 | cr2 | mickeyl: cleaning out these parts out of the kernel is a minor problem. |
| 19:48.32 | ali1234 | mickeyl: they can boot a so called "diagnostic" card - you just trick it into thinking your bootloader is the diagnostic card. two ways to do it: make your card have the right checksum, or patch SPL to boot anything |
| 19:48.50 | cr2 | ali1234: run dumprom.exe on it |
| 19:48.55 | tmzt | we need a clean tsc2003.c, does anyone know where to get one? (linux-omap maybe?) |
| 19:48.58 | ali1234 | mickeyl: the program to boot from SD is called EOL, it currently only works on omap but should work on any HTC device |
| 19:49.28 | ali1234 | cr2: where do i get dumprom.exe? |
| 19:49.50 | ali1234 | cr2: found it :) |
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| 19:50.39 | cr2 | ali1234: eol is very omap850 specific |
| 19:50.57 | cr2 | ali1234: and the goal is to flash linux anyway. |
| 19:51.03 | ali1234 | cr2: yes the FB stuff. but any HTC can use those diagnostic cards |
| 19:51.27 | ali1234 | cr2: hmm... i have a SPL .nb file... i want to disassemble it to asm codes... |
| 19:52.19 | cr2 | ali1234: diagnostic cards are loaded by the spl. we can avoid this one too |
| 19:52.41 | ali1234 | sure |
| 19:52.51 | ali1234 | but i'm not ready to get rid of WM until linux actually works :) |
| 19:53.13 | ali1234 | anyway i want to disassemble SPL because it has all the routines necessary to make gsm work |
| 19:55.11 | mickeyl | work in how far? |
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| 20:00.05 | mickeyl | hmm, ok, doesn't seem to be usb gadget. with this it breaks during compiling |
| 20:00.20 | mickeyl | good, i'll try the stock defconfig then |
| 20:00.28 | mickeyl | clicks "I'm feeling lucky" |
| 20:02.32 | Marajin | hmm, has anyone noticed a tendency for android apps to crash very quickly/consistently on the kaiser btw/ |
| 20:02.48 | Marajin | they seem to keep doing it even when I don't get SD errors |
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| 20:15.08 | mickeyl | ok, no go with a freshly built one |
| 20:15.30 | mickeyl | giving up for today, appreciating any ideas |
| 20:15.31 | mickeyl | l8er |
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| 20:28.51 | NetRipper | maejrep, so, if audio is priority, and rpc is needed for that, then that is priority too :P i just hope you agree that we should get audio working ;) |
| 20:30.11 | cr2 | NetRipper: do you use the same defconfig as in git ? |
| 20:30.16 | NetRipper | yes |
| 20:30.19 | NetRipper | htcraphael_defconfig |
| 20:30.26 | NetRipper | use it for both diamond and raphael |
| 20:30.42 | cr2 | ok, so why mickey_away does not see usb ? |
| 20:30.45 | NetRipper | mickey_away is the first to report usb is nto working |
| 20:30.58 | captnoord | thanks NetRipper for fixing the TS |
| 20:31.00 | cr2 | compile linload.exe :) |
| 20:31.12 | cr2 | then i'll try it :) |
| 20:31.15 | NetRipper | captnoord, it wasn't just me ;) i just committed it ;) |
| 20:31.29 | NetRipper | cr2, can't make a "linload" really, but i'll make a package that you just have to fire up haret and click run ;) |
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| 20:31.54 | NetRipper | oh i could make a linload with angstrom |
| 20:31.57 | NetRipper | i'll do that |
| 20:32.13 | cr2 | yes, with angstrom |
| 20:32.41 | cr2 | i'm a 'cu' and ncurses fan |
| 20:32.55 | cr2 | android is too much gui for me. |
| 20:33.06 | NetRipper | i wont build the angstrom from scratch so i dont know if its in there |
| 20:33.18 | NetRipper | but you can ipkg update and install |
| 20:33.21 | NetRipper | opkg |
| 20:33.21 | NetRipper | whatever |
| 20:33.35 | cr2 | ok |
| 20:33.39 | NetRipper | although some packages will give a segmentation fault |
| 20:33.43 | cr2 | as long as ssh works, i'm happy |
| 20:33.48 | NetRipper | yes that'll work |
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| 20:35.40 | NetRipper | i got to finish something else first, but i'll make a linload with angstrom somewher tonight |
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| 20:40.45 | cr2 | ok |
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| 20:54.53 | cr2 | NetRipper: what is the rndis haret address ? |
| 20:56.53 | NetRipper | 169.254.2.1 |
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| 20:59.11 | cr2 | thanks |
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| 21:05.34 | cr2 | touch 1, touch2, touch1 |
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| 21:15.50 | cr2 | i see only b4/b7/b8 |
| 21:18.48 | cr2 | chord.wav does not want to play |
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| 21:38.27 | cr2 | NetRipper: does haret support loops ? afair the multiple commands on one line are not supported |
| 21:38.50 | NetRipper | i've never used it.. so i dont think so |
| 21:39.00 | NetRipper | havent seen it while browsing through the code either |
| 21:39.04 | cr2 | it's be easy to do the following: |
| 21:39.47 | cr2 | while ( i < 900 ) do powermon 0; pd 0x01ffc100 0x10 ; i++; done |
| 21:40.18 | cr2 | and then plot the +112 vs voltage |
| 21:40.39 | cr2 | and calculate the linear regression coefficients |
| 21:40.54 | NetRipper | you lost me after the while loop |
| 21:41.12 | NetRipper | but i also dont think it's easy to add support like that |
| 21:41.15 | cr2 | sed -f 's/i++/sleep 1/ |
| 21:42.02 | cr2 | 3855 -> 0x0bcf |
| 21:42.57 | cr2 | the battery temperature decreases |
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| 21:43.18 | cr2 | it seems that they use more tricky math. |
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| 21:46.30 | captnoord | what they should have |
| 21:46.36 | captnoord | is a temp correction table |
| 21:46.50 | captnoord | a cold battery is drained diff |
| 21:46.54 | captnoord | then a hott one |
| 21:47.08 | cr2 | yes |
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| 21:47.16 | captnoord | hmmm |
| 21:47.25 | captnoord | also what they could do |
| 21:47.34 | captnoord | is add ptc or ntc calculations |
| 21:47.47 | captnoord | but..... |
| 21:47.52 | captnoord | that would be wierd |
| 21:48.01 | captnoord | then you have a lookup table for the correct temperature |
| 21:48.06 | captnoord | nagg nagg nagg |
| 21:48.32 | cr2 | captnoord: we know all "input" and "output" values |
| 21:48.50 | cr2 | captnoord: so some kind of linear analysis should be possible |
| 21:49.06 | captnoord | hmmm |
| 21:49.14 | captnoord | do you have a dig temp reader |
| 21:49.24 | cr2 | and i'm 100% sure that it's linear |
| 21:49.29 | captnoord | with which you can capture data |
| 21:49.31 | captnoord | when |
| 21:49.32 | captnoord | its easy |
| 21:49.54 | captnoord | you throw your phone in the friezer |
| 21:49.57 | captnoord | and you log both |
| 21:50.02 | captnoord | the phone output |
| 21:50.15 | cr2 | you can use real-life data instead |
| 21:50.20 | captnoord | :P |
| 21:50.21 | cr2 | since they change too |
| 21:50.26 | captnoord | yup |
| 21:50.38 | cr2 | you only have a problem when nothing changes |
| 21:50.39 | captnoord | just log them to scv |
| 21:50.54 | captnoord | can't you drain the battery? |
| 21:51.05 | captnoord | with some stupid cpu load prog |
| 21:51.18 | captnoord | dump the stuff to csv |
| 21:51.21 | captnoord | and send it over |
| 21:51.22 | captnoord | :P |
| 21:51.46 | cr2 | already at 20% ;) |
| 21:51.56 | NetRipper | man i need a new rom on my raph.. volume control is borked |
| 21:52.09 | captnoord | ? |
| 21:52.10 | AstainHasPS3 | captnoord easy way to drop batt fast is wmwifirouter and active data connection |
| 21:52.11 | NetRipper | installed some tf3d patch |
| 21:52.15 | lama | http://exabyte.es/omnia/2009/02/video-con-linux-corriendo-en-omnia/ |
| 21:52.22 | NetRipper | now i cant adjust my volume anymore, it's always at 100% |
| 21:52.25 | NetRipper | pretty annoying in meetings ;) |
| 21:52.28 | lama | tmzt: check this link |
| 21:52.31 | captnoord | hehe |
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| 21:53.32 | cr2 | lama: who cares if it's not free software ? |
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| 21:54.16 | NetRipper | tvout drains power from the battery like madness btw |
| 21:54.47 | NetRipper | think i went from 60% to 10% in about an hour |
| 21:54.48 | AstainHasPS3 | hmm cool |
| 21:54.57 | AstainHasPS3 | wow thats a hell of a drop |
| 21:55.13 | NetRipper | device was pretty hot as well |
| 21:55.20 | cr2 | NetRipper: mmutrace mdp ? |
| 21:55.20 | j0b0 | NetRipper does it get nice and warm? :) |
| 21:55.25 | NetRipper | cr2, another day |
| 21:55.48 | cr2 | NetRipper: pd 0x01ffc110 0x10 |
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| 21:56.04 | NetRipper | i'll do that in a bit |
| 21:58.55 | lama | cr2: I don't know anything baout limo license, but there are working kernels with touchscreen for Omnia and sgh 780 and some LG phone |
| 21:59.12 | cr2 | lama: ok |
| 21:59.56 | cr2 | NetRipper: 0x20 offset between DATA1, DATA2, DATA3 |
| 22:00.19 | cr2 | ans some empty slots |
| 22:00.57 | cr2 | DS, empty,RPCCALL,empty,empty,CONTROL,empty,DATA1,... |
| 22:00.58 | lama | and there are chances we can get sources from Samsung:) |
| 22:01.11 | cr2 | chances ? |
| 22:01.42 | cr2 | ...,DATA9,empty,DATA11,... |
| 22:01.56 | cr2 | ... GPSNMEA |
| 22:02.23 | cr2 | NetRipper: are they all preset by oemsbl ? |
| 22:02.26 | NetRipper | put it on wiki ;) |
| 22:02.37 | NetRipper | what are? |
| 22:02.51 | NetRipper | i dont know about the smd channels |
| 22:02.56 | cr2 | the SMD channels |
| 22:03.01 | NetRipper | maybe dream_kill knows |
| 22:03.10 | cr2 | i think they were recognized by the kernel already ? |
| 22:03.22 | cr2 | i see the setup in oemsbl |
| 22:03.24 | NetRipper | cr2, yes.. not sure how it detects it |
| 22:03.32 | NetRipper | havent looked into it |
| 22:03.38 | cr2 | smd.c source ;) |
| 22:03.48 | NetRipper | time ;) |
| 22:04.24 | cr2 | NetRipper: the recent g2 code supports many more SD voltages. |
| 22:04.33 | NetRipper | nice |
| 22:04.33 | NetRipper | :) |
| 22:04.36 | NetRipper | also higher speeds? |
| 22:04.38 | lama | cr2: I shouldn't tell you more here... |
| 22:04.53 | cr2 | NetRipper: no |
| 22:05.12 | NetRipper | aw ok |
| 22:05.30 | NetRipper | i should try a speed test on the mmc |
| 22:06.16 | NetRipper | sometimes it seems faster than other times when booting |
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| 22:07.05 | cr2 | NetRipper: it's more about saving power |
| 22:07.54 | NetRipper | well it may go into low power mode when im not using it |
| 22:07.59 | NetRipper | when i use it, it should go high speed |
| 22:08.00 | NetRipper | :) |
| 22:08.18 | NetRipper | as long as we dont have power management on it, it should go full speed ;) |
| 22:09.04 | cr2 | NetRipper: speed=clock, not the voltage |
| 22:09.10 | NetRipper | i know |
| 22:09.25 | NetRipper | but higher clock may require a different voltage |
| 22:09.42 | NetRipper | or is that just a cpu thing? |
| 22:09.43 | NetRipper | :) |
| 22:09.53 | NetRipper | (i based that on overclocking) |
| 22:10.20 | cr2 | you don't want to burn the cpu at higher clock |
| 22:11.08 | cr2 | NetRipper: the irclog will be switched off soon ;) |
| 22:11.09 | NetRipper | i know but you know when you're overclocking intel/amd chips you sometimes need to increase voltage ;) |
| 22:11.17 | NetRipper | i know, i've requested the php script |
| 22:11.22 | cr2 | ok |
| 22:12.13 | NetRipper | i may host it on netripper.com |
| 22:12.21 | NetRipper | if nobody else will |
| 22:12.21 | NetRipper | :) |
| 22:12.28 | captnoord | NetRipper: hmmmm |
| 22:12.31 | captnoord | let me explain |
| 22:12.40 | NetRipper | be my guest |
| 22:12.41 | captnoord | if your interested of course |
| 22:12.44 | NetRipper | explain what? |
| 22:13.07 | captnoord | its not that for overclocking you ALWAYS need to increase voltage |
| 22:13.13 | NetRipper | nah i know |
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| 22:13.23 | captnoord | ( part of my study crap ) |
| 22:13.40 | captnoord | its totaly related to the die |
| 22:13.42 | NetRipper | but somehow when you overclock you may need to increase voltage to get it stable again.. |
| 22:13.43 | captnoord | good die |
| 22:13.43 | cr2 | NetRipper: g2 uses the toshiba mddi too |
| 22:13.57 | captnoord | its because the transistors in the chip |
| 22:14.01 | captnoord | needs a harder sink |
| 22:14.09 | captnoord | to be able to coap with the required speed |
| 22:14.18 | captnoord | a harder course |
| 22:14.21 | captnoord | and a harder sink |
| 22:14.34 | captnoord | that requires a increase in voltage yep |
| 22:14.43 | NetRipper | ok |
| 22:14.54 | NetRipper | didnt know it on low level like that ;) |
| 22:15.35 | captnoord | http://www.analog.com/library/analogDialogue/archives/35-05/latchup/ |
| 22:15.47 | captnoord | not entirely on the subject |
| 22:15.48 | captnoord | but |
| 22:16.02 | captnoord | one of my coarses is chip design |
| 22:16.38 | captnoord | see it like: fill a bucket with water |
| 22:17.06 | captnoord | if you use a hose that got its water from a higher point |
| 22:17.11 | captnoord | it falls faster |
| 22:17.24 | captnoord | ( with that I mean electons ) |
| 22:17.40 | captnoord | meaning the cpu can go faster |
| 22:17.40 | captnoord | but |
| 22:17.42 | captnoord | heat |
| 22:17.45 | captnoord | is a killer |
| 22:17.47 | captnoord | hmmm |
| 22:17.51 | captnoord | i'm in a snack mood |
| 22:17.51 | captnoord | brb |
| 22:17.53 | NetRipper | right |
| 22:17.56 | NetRipper | ok |
| 22:18.01 | NetRipper | well i get it basically |
| 22:18.58 | captnoord | the part about getting it stable is because with the large number of transistors |
| 22:19.11 | captnoord | there is always a couple that need higher voltage to work correctly at a certain speed |
| 22:19.20 | captnoord | couple transistors I mean |
| 22:19.32 | NetRipper | yes |
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| 22:20.01 | captnoord | but remember chips for mobile phones are designed to be clocked dynamicly |
| 22:20.04 | NetRipper | and for cpu's that are clocked higher by the manufacturer, the quality of the transistors is just a bit better? |
| 22:20.21 | captnoord | yup, you got A grade die's |
| 22:20.25 | captnoord | the middle of the DIE |
| 22:20.33 | cr2 | very nice |
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| 22:20.34 | captnoord | are the best chips |
| 22:20.40 | cr2 | + PCOM_GPIO_CFG(45, 2, GPIO_OUTPUT, GPIO_PULL_UP, GPIO_4MA), /* RX */ |
| 22:20.42 | NetRipper | ok |
| 22:20.42 | cr2 | + PCOM_GPIO_CFG(46, 3, GPIO_OUTPUT, GPIO_PULL_UP, GPIO_4MA), /* TX */ |
| 22:20.46 | captnoord | because the "layers" are easy to match |
| 22:20.52 | captnoord | cr2: nice:D |
| 22:21.02 | captnoord | NetRipper: you got it |
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| 22:21.17 | cr2 | bt1 and uart1 |
| 22:21.24 | cr2 | we have uart1 for the debugger |
| 22:21.25 | NetRipper | i get it |
| 22:21.28 | cr2 | + PCOM_GPIO_CFG(45, 1, GPIO_OUTPUT, GPIO_PULL_UP, GPIO_4MA), /* RX */ |
| 22:21.29 | cr2 | + PCOM_GPIO_CFG(46, 1, GPIO_OUTPUT, GPIO_PULL_UP, GPIO_4MA), /* TX */ |
| 22:22.13 | captnoord | captnoordbut remember chips for mobile phones are designed to be clocked dynamicly |
| 22:22.17 | captnoord | regarding to that |
| 22:22.19 | NetRipper | yes |
| 22:22.21 | captnoord | don't do this blind |
| 22:22.22 | captnoord | :P |
| 22:22.25 | NetRipper | i know |
| 22:22.27 | captnoord | otherwise BOOM |
| 22:22.28 | captnoord | :P |
| 22:22.47 | cr2 | :) |
| 22:22.58 | cr2 | NetRipper: still they get all config from NAND |
| 22:23.03 | cr2 | indirectly |
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| 22:24.22 | NetRipper | MSM cpu also supports frequency scaling.. but we currently have it disabled in the defconfig |
| 22:24.27 | NetRipper | should try enabling it |
| 22:27.40 | captnoord | what happens if its disabled |
| 22:27.46 | captnoord | its scaled to the lowest value? |
| 22:28.19 | captnoord | resulting in a slow machine....:P |
| 22:28.29 | NetRipper | no probably the highest |
| 22:28.30 | captnoord | or it isn't scaled at al |
| 22:28.34 | captnoord | nope |
| 22:28.37 | captnoord | I don't think so |
| 22:28.40 | captnoord | its a mobile cpu |
| 22:28.41 | NetRipper | or just left how wince left it |
| 22:29.02 | captnoord | meaning that if the chip settings aren't set it will never go high |
| 22:29.33 | captnoord | because a cpu like that will drain a lot of power |
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| 22:36.17 | cr2 | NetRipper: what is ADIE ? |
| 22:36.57 | captnoord | analog digitalconverter interupt enable? |
| 22:36.58 | captnoord | :P |
| 22:37.54 | cr2 | AD yes |
| 22:37.59 | cr2 | IE uncertain |
| 22:38.14 | cr2 | some sound DSP control |
| 22:38.26 | captnoord | hmmm |
| 22:38.29 | captnoord | which DSP? |
| 22:38.35 | cr2 | aDSP |
| 22:38.48 | captnoord | we don't have type nr's and stuff? |
| 22:38.50 | cr2 | msm has aDSP and mSDP |
| 22:38.59 | cr2 | builtin |
| 22:39.15 | cr2 | qualcomm something |
| 22:39.19 | captnoord | aahhh I see |
| 22:40.30 | captnoord | feeds generic info |
| 22:40.30 | captnoord | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motorola_56000 |
| 22:40.44 | captnoord | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Super_Harvard_Architecture_Single-Chip_Computer |
| 22:43.27 | captnoord | http://www.analog.com/en/embedded-processing-dsp/sharc/content/sharc_processor_architectural_overview/fca.html |
| 22:43.33 | captnoord | most dps's have common features |
| 22:45.05 | NetRipper | dsp = digital sound processor? |
| 22:45.09 | cr2 | still, the raph connects the BT audio to the btpcm port |
| 22:45.10 | captnoord | yup |
| 22:45.13 | cr2 | signal |
| 22:45.29 | cr2 | signal !sound |
| 22:46.17 | captnoord | I think the aDSP has mem banks todo its magic |
| 22:46.32 | captnoord | stuff like that |
| 22:46.37 | captnoord | or shared mem |
| 22:46.40 | captnoord | with the cpu |
| 22:46.44 | captnoord | but don't think so |
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| 22:47.55 | captnoord | http://www.indeed.com/job/DSP-Tools-Developer-at-Qualcomm-in-Austin,-TX-3c4f6e5d257f90b3 |
| 22:47.55 | captnoord | lol |
| 22:49.00 | rm | anyone uses BT PAN on HTC Universal successfully? |
| 22:49.02 | cr2 | aDSP is supported. |
| 22:49.15 | captnoord | http://74.125.77.132/search?q=cache:_pXGq2-0NPAJ:www.qualcomm.com/news/releases/1998/press840.html+qualcomm+dsp&hl=nl&ct=clnk&cd=7&gl=nl&client=firefox-a |
| 22:49.22 | captnoord | old news regarding there implementaion |
| 22:50.42 | captnoord | hmmm |
| 22:50.48 | captnoord | they use embeded chips as dsp |
| 22:50.52 | captnoord | Embedded QDSP2000⢠digital signal processor (DSP) core |
| 22:52.10 | captnoord | http://kr.ic-on-line.cn/IOL/viewpdf/MSM5100_587283.htm |
| 22:52.21 | captnoord | old datasheet of one of there cpu's with dsp |
| 22:52.26 | captnoord | my idea is |
| 22:52.37 | captnoord | that the design won't differ a lot |
| 22:53.07 | captnoord | is the PLL found? |
| 22:54.55 | mickeyl | NetRipper: which defconfig did you use to build http://www.netripper.com/raphael/20081204-01_raph_diam_angstrom_usb/zImage ? |
| 22:54.57 | NetRipper | cr2, mickeyl, http://netripper.com/raphael/packages/ there you can find a linload version (the .exe) of latest zimage and an angstrom initrd which boots and starts an SSH server |
| 22:55.06 | NetRipper | that's an old one |
| 22:55.09 | NetRipper | use this new link |
| 22:55.09 | NetRipper | :) |
| 22:55.22 | mickeyl | ok, cool. i need to rebuild this effort though |
| 22:55.26 | mickeyl | which defconfig and branch did you use? |
| 22:55.26 | NetRipper | it's for the raph100 though |
| 22:55.36 | NetRipper | htc-msm-2.6.27 and htcraphael_defconfig |
| 22:55.40 | mickeyl | bummer |
| 22:55.42 | mickeyl | same i'm using |
| 22:55.43 | cr2 | NetRipper: he has the same device as me |
| 22:55.48 | mickeyl | still i have no USB |
| 22:55.50 | NetRipper | mickeyl, also raph100? |
| 22:55.53 | mickeyl | yes |
| 22:55.58 | NetRipper | http://netripper.com/raphael/packages/raph100_20090219_angstrom_usb.exe |
| 22:56.02 | NetRipper | get that file |
| 22:56.08 | NetRipper | put it on your phone's sd card |
| 22:56.52 | mickeyl | hmm, ok, thanks. it might be one step further |
| 22:56.55 | cr2 | NetRipper: it boots off sd now ? |
| 22:57.02 | NetRipper | cr2, er, it always did |
| 22:57.04 | mickeyl | but still i need to be able to build an own kernel w/ all that stuff |
| 22:57.05 | cr2 | NetRipper: was a problem in the past |
| 22:57.09 | NetRipper | cr2, was it? |
| 22:57.21 | NetRipper | never had that problem |
| 22:57.25 | cr2 | NetRipper: yes. i copied your old version to NAND |
| 22:57.39 | NetRipper | mickeyl, yes, but first try this.. to rule out it's something in your dev environment |
| 22:57.45 | mickeyl | agreed |
| 22:57.49 | cr2 | NetRipper: otherwise it was hanging somewhere in the middle of booting |
| 22:57.58 | cr2 | NetRipper: but it was very long ago |
| 22:58.04 | NetRipper | cr2, it still does that sometimes, but it's not due to booting from nand or sd card |
| 22:58.21 | NetRipper | mickeyl, when copied, just start the .exe |
| 22:58.28 | NetRipper | make sure you have usb in activesync mode |
| 22:58.46 | NetRipper | and usb cable connected |
| 23:00.15 | cr2 | 21.10.08 and 23.10.08 |
| 23:00.18 | NetRipper | note that sometimes the boot may hang.. and the last line displayed is the "console handover"... if that happens.. soft reset and try again ;) |
| 23:00.26 | cr2 | my last linux boot on raph :) |
| 23:00.41 | NetRipper | cr2, you're just too scared to boot linux on your device |
| 23:00.42 | NetRipper | ;) |
| 23:01.23 | cr2 | blue square ? |
| 23:01.38 | NetRipper | yes it's the virtual keyboard |
| 23:01.42 | NetRipper | tap it to open it |
| 23:01.55 | cr2 | i prefer the real one |
| 23:01.56 | mickeyl | what is 'activesync' mode? |
| 23:02.04 | cr2 | mickeyl: rndis |
| 23:02.10 | mickeyl | hmm |
| 23:02.13 | mickeyl | how do i do that? |
| 23:02.13 | cr2 | mickeyl: not the usb_storage |
| 23:02.24 | mickeyl | some WM settings? |
| 23:02.29 | cr2 | yes |
| 23:02.31 | mickeyl | i see, ok, will find them |
| 23:02.33 | NetRipper | mickeyl, when you plug in your usb cable in your phone.. your phone gives you three choices... activesync, disk drive, internet sharing |
| 23:02.40 | NetRipper | make sure you select activesync |
| 23:02.42 | mickeyl | oh wait |
| 23:02.49 | cr2 | NetRipper: ifcnfig usb0 ? |
| 23:02.53 | mickeyl | you mean i always need to put the usb cable in _before_ starting linux? |
| 23:02.58 | NetRipper | mickeyl, omg. |
| 23:03.01 | mickeyl | otherwise it won't work? |
| 23:03.02 | NetRipper | yes |
| 23:03.05 | mickeyl | aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaargh |
| 23:03.15 | NetRipper | and you must have selected 'activesync' |
| 23:03.20 | mickeyl | *sigh* |
| 23:03.21 | NetRipper | at the popup |
| 23:03.22 | cr2 | mickeyl: Dplus control is missing |
| 23:03.25 | NetRipper | i told you this a few times already lol |
| 23:03.26 | mickeyl | important piece of information... |
| 23:03.26 | cr2 | yet. |
| 23:03.51 | mickeyl | ok, i go back trying my system first |
| 23:03.58 | mickeyl | perhaps it just works now |
| 23:04.04 | NetRipper | probably will |
| 23:04.05 | cr2 | NetRipper: which ip has raph100 ? |
| 23:04.18 | NetRipper | cr2, look on the tiny screen.. it's displayed before the login prompt ;) |
| 23:04.21 | cr2 | NetRipper: the fb update is a bit jerky |
| 23:04.24 | NetRipper | oh |
| 23:04.27 | NetRipper | 192.168.0.206 |
| 23:04.41 | NetRipper | and yes usb0 on your host pc |
| 23:04.54 | cr2 | ok. standard angstrom |
| 23:05.02 | NetRipper | the hardware keyboard works btw |
| 23:05.06 | NetRipper | so you can just slide it open and press enter |
| 23:05.08 | cr2 | mickeyl: works for me |
| 23:05.13 | NetRipper | i mean |
| 23:05.16 | NetRipper | root<enter> |
| 23:05.17 | NetRipper | :) |
| 23:05.27 | mickeyl | root@htcraphael:~# uname -a |
| 23:05.27 | mickeyl | Linux htcraphael 2.6.27 #1 PREEMPT Thu Feb 19 21:04:07 CET 2009 armv6l unknown |
| 23:05.29 | mickeyl | OMG |
| 23:05.29 | cr2 | NetRipper: it will turn to landscape ? |
| 23:05.36 | mickeyl | IT WORKS |
| 23:05.37 | NetRipper | cr2, no, not yet |
| 23:05.39 | NetRipper | mickeyl, congrats ;) |
| 23:05.40 | cr2 | LOL |
| 23:05.42 | mickeyl | thanks |
| 23:05.48 | mickeyl | so much for 2 days in frustration :D |
| 23:05.55 | NetRipper | indeed |
| 23:05.55 | NetRipper | :) |
| 23:05.58 | mickeyl | i hate WM |
| 23:06.02 | mickeyl | did i say that already? :D |
| 23:06.09 | mickeyl | well, great |
| 23:06.10 | mickeyl | thanks guys |
| 23:06.17 | mickeyl | this is the kickstart i wanted |
| 23:06.20 | cr2 | the keyboard works |
| 23:06.25 | mickeyl | now i can move on getting some things done |
| 23:06.30 | mickeyl | bows and gets to work |
| 23:06.36 | NetRipper | work?? |
| 23:06.42 | mickeyl | yeah |
| 23:06.45 | NetRipper | what timezone are you in |
| 23:06.48 | mickeyl | getting some userland done |
| 23:06.48 | cr2 | NetRipper: the Dplus dex should be dealt with. |
| 23:06.50 | mickeyl | CET |
| 23:06.55 | NetRipper | god, nightshift? |
| 23:07.00 | cr2 | NetRipper: the same as we ;) |
| 23:07.01 | mickeyl | freelancer, you know... |
| 23:07.04 | NetRipper | right |
| 23:07.04 | NetRipper | :) |
| 23:07.08 | mickeyl | working always and everywhere |
| 23:07.15 | mickeyl | besides i have access to my new toy |
| 23:07.20 | mickeyl | that'll keep me awake for the nite |
| 23:07.22 | NetRipper | hehe |
| 23:07.24 | NetRipper | good luck then |
| 23:07.25 | NetRipper | ;) |
| 23:07.29 | mickeyl | thanks :) |
| 23:07.43 | cr2 | NetRipper: is the fb fully functional ? |
| 23:07.48 | NetRipper | cr2, define fully |
| 23:07.58 | cr2 | NetRipper: then i'll push kiozen to compile qtopia |
| 23:08.07 | cr2 | NetRipper: so qtopia will work |
| 23:08.20 | NetRipper | cr2, if you want to use X then i need to compile a differetn zImage for you |
| 23:08.26 | cr2 | i'll check GPS and the GT/M by kiozen |
| 23:08.29 | mickeyl | <----------- Mickey's Term V2.9.2 @ /dev/smd0 -----------> |
| 23:08.29 | mickeyl | ate0v1 |
| 23:08.29 | mickeyl | OK |
| 23:08.29 | mickeyl | at+cgmr |
| 23:08.29 | mickeyl | HTC |
| 23:08.29 | mickeyl | OK |
| 23:08.33 | mickeyl | mmh, sweet |
| 23:08.38 | NetRipper | mickey's term? |
| 23:08.41 | cr2 | NetRipper: qtopia is not using X |
| 23:08.47 | mickeyl | my terminal program |
| 23:08.55 | cr2 | .py ? |
| 23:08.58 | mickeyl | yep |
| 23:08.58 | NetRipper | cr2, ok.. well not sure if it'll work but it may need the refresh thread in the kernel |
| 23:09.07 | mickeyl | can't wait to see how many pystones this machine makes |
| 23:09.12 | mickeyl | fires a benchmark |
| 23:09.16 | cr2 | lol |
| 23:09.16 | NetRipper | pystones? |
| 23:09.23 | NetRipper | ah |
| 23:09.37 | cr2 | NetRipper: 87MB :( |
| 23:09.53 | NetRipper | cr2, mm |
| 23:09.53 | captnoord | http://www.icwic.cn/icwic/data/pdf/cd/cd074/Wireless%20Communication/a/94501.pdf |
| 23:09.58 | captnoord | used dsp pdf |
| 23:10.29 | NetRipper | cr2, maybe i can make it a kernel option to enable the 2nd memory bank.. but im still not sure on how stable it is.. as android refuses to start with it enabled :P |
| 23:10.35 | cr2 | captnoord: the aSDP source is available from g1 |
| 23:10.52 | captnoord | macks himself |
| 23:10.54 | captnoord | of course |
| 23:10.56 | captnoord | :( |
| 23:10.58 | cr2 | NetRipper: then android sux ;) |
| 23:10.59 | captnoord | I should goto bed |
| 23:11.32 | cr2 | NetRipper: how do we define the NAND size ? |
| 23:11.33 | NetRipper | cr2, maybe there still is an area of the memory that is protected |
| 23:11.56 | NetRipper | cr2, i've seen something about partition definitions somewhere |
| 23:11.59 | NetRipper | dont remember where |
| 23:12.06 | cr2 | NetRipper: can be checked with recursive calloc |
| 23:12.19 | cr2 | NetRipper: how big is the wince partition ? |
| 23:12.31 | NetRipper | cr2, dont know.. it's dynamically read from NAND |
| 23:12.39 | NetRipper | as it's stored in there |
| 23:12.39 | cr2 | NetRipper: the MPU will allow access only to the wince part i think |
| 23:12.59 | cr2 | still they access the wifi eeprom and such from spl. |
| 23:13.06 | NetRipper | cr2, yes but question is.. are there parts of the 0x2* that is locked by mpu |
| 23:13.20 | cr2 | i doubt it |
| 23:13.31 | cr2 | you can run ram tester (malloc) in haret |
| 23:13.54 | NetRipper | nah it's not a proper tester |
| 23:14.08 | cr2 | it is |
| 23:14.12 | cr2 | LockPages |
| 23:14.33 | cr2 | i forgot the command name |
| 23:14.57 | cr2 | i2ctools are not availbale ? |
| 23:15.15 | cr2 | NetRipper: you can enable the 3mpix cam i2c driver |
| 23:15.32 | cr2 | but then we need to adjust the cam power gpios |
| 23:16.19 | NetRipper | opkg update | opkg install i2ctools? |
| 23:16.20 | cr2 | clock_late_init() disabled 18 unused clocks |
| 23:16.28 | cr2 | looks suspicious |
| 23:16.33 | NetRipper | it's alright |
| 23:16.39 | NetRipper | they are just clocks not claimed by drivers |
| 23:16.40 | cr2 | don't have direct net access |
| 23:16.49 | cr2 | wget over squid maybe |
| 23:16.51 | NetRipper | export http_proxy |
| 23:17.09 | cr2 | hmm. need to reconfigure squid then |
| 23:17.09 | NetRipper | and make your linux a router |
| 23:17.23 | NetRipper | you can just let your host linux perform masquerade? |
| 23:17.26 | NetRipper | nat i mean |
| 23:17.42 | NetRipper | echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward |
| 23:17.42 | NetRipper | iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -o eth0 -j MASQUERADE |
| 23:17.58 | cr2 | ok |
| 23:18.01 | NetRipper | if you configured your usb0 with 192.168.0.200 |
| 23:18.20 | NetRipper | then you just need to set dns by doing: |
| 23:18.25 | NetRipper | echo "nameserver 192.168.178.1" > /etc/resolv.conf |
| 23:18.59 | *** join/#htc-linux cmonex (n=xy6091@yt3gvlqbui.adsl.datanet.hu) |
| 23:19.44 | captnoord | When booting from NAND flash, the two EBI1 RAM regions (XMEM1_CS_N[2] and XMEM1_CS_N[3]) are mapped to the lowest addresses, so that an SDRAM can be used at XMEM1_CS_N[2] to which the ARM processor can move the entire AMSS software from the NAND flash. The decoder must properly decode accesses under the different configurations allowed by these options. |
| 23:20.03 | cr2 | usb_function_register() 'adb' ? |
| 23:20.11 | cr2 | where does it come from ? |
| 23:20.22 | *** join/#htc-linux hlbot (n=adm@iclem.net) |
| 23:20.27 | captnoord | that part, comes from a 2004 chip |
| 23:20.34 | captnoord | a bit old |
| 23:20.35 | NetRipper | cr2, the function is registed, but not used.. it's because it's still in defconfig |
| 23:20.38 | cr2 | the usb_function |
| 23:20.42 | cr2 | ok |
| 23:20.44 | NetRipper | cr2, i.e. the "module inits" but it's just not used |
| 23:20.52 | captnoord | i'll double check the mem bank |
| 23:20.55 | cr2 | probe of serial failed ? |
| 23:21.01 | captnoord | memory map* |
| 23:23.29 | cr2 | NetRipper: all the SMD channels detected correctly |
| 23:23.43 | NetRipper | cr2, yes, but not 1 |
| 23:23.56 | NetRipper | you dont have a /dev/smd1 do you |
| 23:23.58 | NetRipper | ? |
| 23:24.13 | NetRipper | erm actually you can't have that even.. as the code does not make it |
| 23:24.22 | cr2 | i mean the SMD smem layout |
| 23:24.28 | NetRipper | yes ok |
| 23:24.37 | cr2 | DATA1 is not 1 |
| 23:24.49 | NetRipper | i know |
| 23:24.52 | cr2 | cid=7 |
| 23:25.09 | cr2 | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:25.33 | NetRipper | but DATA1 is not umts/hsdpa/gprs, or is it? |
| 23:25.37 | cr2 | the same as GPSNMEA is /dev/smd27 |
| 23:25.44 | cr2 | it is. imho |
| 23:25.46 | NetRipper | hm |
| 23:25.47 | NetRipper | ok |
| 23:26.03 | NetRipper | i'll enable those detected cid's tomorrow |
| 23:26.10 | cr2 | ok |
| 23:26.22 | NetRipper | how can i test it? |
| 23:26.22 | oliwan | guys, how can i check if rpc is working? |
| 23:26.40 | cr2 | NetRipper: the clk api needs more debugging messages |
| 23:26.49 | NetRipper | how so? |
| 23:27.02 | NetRipper | oliwan, i dont know |
| 23:27.11 | cr2 | what is requested, what is implemented, and what not |
| 23:27.54 | cr2 | NetRipper: the LCD backlight works too ? :) |
| 23:28.08 | NetRipper | not controlled by linux |
| 23:28.14 | NetRipper | you moved your finger over the light sensor |
| 23:28.18 | cr2 | i see a messaage "unknown clock!" |
| 23:28.31 | cr2 | wow. cool |
| 23:28.34 | NetRipper | yes, the message above that will explain which clock ;) |
| 23:28.52 | cr2 | can be more verbose |
| 23:28.54 | NetRipper | cr2, the light sensor and the lcd backlight are hardware controlled... it's not something we did ;) |
| 23:29.20 | cr2 | FB blank is hw controlled ? |
| 23:29.30 | NetRipper | no that's just a software blank |
| 23:29.36 | NetRipper | sometimes it doesn't even blank fully |
| 23:29.37 | cr2 | ok |
| 23:30.21 | captnoord | hmmmm |
| 23:30.25 | cr2 | wtf is unrecognized tag 0x00000000 |
| 23:30.35 | captnoord | I think that they won't have changed the design idea |
| 23:30.41 | captnoord | and the cpu has a codec |
| 23:30.52 | captnoord | so to enable routing of the speaker |
| 23:30.57 | captnoord | pcm stuff |
| 23:31.09 | captnoord | do we have coded stuff mapped? |
| 23:31.55 | NetRipper | cr2, haret passes tags to the linux kernel.. tags contain data like memory layout and stuff like that.. on x86 pc's the bios uses it to pass memory data |
| 23:32.37 | NetRipper | cr2, tags are terminated by a 0x0, but the linux kernel expects at least one tag.. hence the unknown ;) |
| 23:32.39 | cr2 | yes, but why do we have a broken tag ? |
| 23:33.45 | cr2 | cu works |
| 23:34.01 | cr2 | after chown root.uucp /dev/smd0 |
| 23:34.34 | cr2 | hehe |
| 23:34.41 | cr2 | at+creg? |
| 23:34.49 | cr2 | provides the right data :) |
| 23:34.54 | cr2 | time for a logger app |
| 23:35.01 | cr2 | and join with gps |
| 23:35.12 | cr2 | NetRipper: gps works too ? |
| 23:35.28 | cr2 | NetRipper: probably needs some AT command first. |
| 23:35.31 | mickeyl | ok, now that I'm on board, i should join the mailing list again |
| 23:35.37 | mickeyl | is it still htc-linux@handhelds.org or did you guys move? |
| 23:35.45 | cr2 | @HTCCSQ: 3 |
| 23:36.11 | cr2 | mickeyl: i have no idea |
| 23:36.20 | mickeyl | heh, ok |
| 23:36.25 | mickeyl | you only coordinate via IRC? |
| 23:36.32 | cr2 | it seems so |
| 23:36.53 | mickeyl | ok |
| 23:37.03 | cr2 | mickeyl: you'd write a fieldtest app now :) |
| 23:37.20 | cr2 | by parsing the at@3G* responces |
| 23:37.33 | mickeyl | for sure |
| 23:37.43 | tmzt | cr2: don't know if the Magic commits have anything new about mdp |
| 23:37.44 | mickeyl | do we have docs for the non-standard commands? |
| 23:37.45 | cr2 | i think we should document the full AT command list |
| 23:37.50 | mickeyl | heh, right |
| 23:38.00 | mickeyl | openezx has about 100 non-standard |
| 23:38.04 | mickeyl | 5 of them documented :( |
| 23:38.09 | NetRipper | cr2, no i didnt get gps to work... crashes during boot when enabled in wince |
| 23:38.09 | cr2 | hehe |
| 23:38.17 | cr2 | htc is much better |
| 23:38.35 | mickeyl | hopefully |
| 23:38.37 | cr2 | NetRipper: that's weird. |
| 23:39.14 | cr2 | mickeyl: but there are many interesting undocumented commands |
| 23:39.23 | NetRipper | cr2, well i havent tried in a while but that was the behaviour last time |
| 23:39.28 | NetRipper | i dont see why it would change ;) |
| 23:39.41 | cr2 | NetRipper: what was the gps init command ? |
| 23:39.41 | NetRipper | anyway |
| 23:39.41 | mickeyl | cr2: ok, we should start to document them on the wiki page |
| 23:40.00 | cr2 | mickeyl: it is too big for 1 page |
| 23:40.03 | NetRipper | cr2, no idea.. i just inited it in wince before booting linux |
| 23:40.10 | cr2 | mickeyl: i have a rather big list at hh.org |
| 23:40.17 | mickeyl | cr2: got a link handy? |
| 23:41.11 | NetRipper | bedtime |
| 23:41.13 | NetRipper | good night guys |
| 23:41.14 | mickeyl | what that thing with screen refresh btw.? you mentioned there's some fancy ioctl do that? when and who's supposed to do that? |
| 23:41.17 | mickeyl | g'night NetRipper , thanks! |
| 23:41.33 | tmzt | lama: is Samsung using linux? |
| 23:41.45 | cr2 | mickeyl: http://www.handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/HTC_25GSM |
| 23:41.56 | cr2 | mickeyl: it's for the older phones |
| 23:42.08 | tmzt | mickeyl: there's two ways to do it used in parts of android |
| 23:42.13 | lama | tmzt: yes |
| 23:42.36 | lama | tmzt: samsung is said to release three android and one linux (limo) phones this year |
| 23:42.39 | cr2 | the AT$3G* are available on raph too |
| 23:42.51 | tmzt | one. set the yoffset with fbset ioctls settings this to either 0 or the height of the screen switches the active display |
| 23:42.54 | mickeyl | cr2: ok, right. although i'd strongly encourage you not to document the standard ones unless the deviate from the standard. gsm 07.07 is documented very well. |
| 23:43.18 | mickeyl | tmzt: ok, that's good for console mode |
| 23:43.22 | cr2 | mickeyl: AT$ and AT@ are nonstandard |
| 23:43.33 | mickeyl | i know :) |
| 23:43.55 | cr2 | the list is 4 years old |
| 23:44.00 | cr2 | fron the blueangel times |
| 23:44.01 | mickeyl | but all the 07.07 ones should be removed for clarity imo |
| 23:44.09 | mickeyl | you're that long active in htc-linux? |
| 23:44.10 | mickeyl | cool |
| 23:44.26 | cr2 | not 4, sorry |
| 23:44.30 | cr2 | 3 |
| 23:45.31 | cr2 | linux worked on htc phones since nov2005 |
| 23:45.50 | cr2 | for himalaya even earlier, but the hw support was really bad. |
| 23:46.30 | mickeyl | tmzt: second one? |
| 23:46.30 | tmzt | it's different in 2.6.27 it appears |
| 23:46.37 | oliwan | sory, anyone know a good prog to edit e2img files direct? |
| 23:46.38 | tmzt | http://android.git.kernel.org/?p=kernel/msm.git;a=blob;f=drivers/video/msm/msm_fb.c;h=1310344576d4d244f2894e7b128f0625efb47f8c;hb=android-msm-2.6.27 |
| 23:46.46 | tmzt | sorry |
| 23:47.49 | oliwan | or command to mount |
| 23:48.29 | cr2 | at+htcagps? |
| 23:48.36 | cr2 | +htcagps: 5 |
| 23:49.24 | cr2 | lol |
| 23:49.33 | cr2 | at@bric=0 |
| 23:50.23 | mickeyl | interesting. msm can query operator list even without SIM inserted |
| 23:50.27 | mickeyl | first modem I've seen that does that |
| 23:50.28 | tmzt | mickeyl: ah right, PAN ioctl |
| 23:50.46 | cr2 | mickeyl: it's hardcoded |
| 23:50.56 | mickeyl | cr2: no no, not +copn, +cops=? |
| 23:51.01 | tmzt | mickeyl: sorry, I was expecting all the ioctl's to be in the ioctl function and I couldn't remember the name |
| 23:51.21 | cr2 | you mean the actual list ? |
| 23:51.29 | mickeyl | yes |
| 23:51.33 | cr2 | ok |
| 23:51.34 | mickeyl | currently available services |
| 23:51.43 | mickeyl | +copn is in a list on flash, that's clear |
| 23:52.02 | tmzt | there is also a BLIT ioctl but I can't find any use of it in android and noone has any information on it in #android |
| 23:52.18 | mickeyl | i see, so someone would need to patch xorg or kdrive to make this happen |
| 23:52.28 | mickeyl | or <add-your-favorite-non-x-system-here> |
| 23:52.47 | cr2 | tmzt: where is the BLIT ioctl ? |
| 23:53.15 | tmzt | in msm_fb.c |
| 23:53.24 | mickeyl | hmm d'oh |
| 23:53.35 | mickeyl | lcd backlight is a LED class device as opposed to backlight class? |
| 23:53.41 | mickeyl | funny :) |
| 23:53.53 | tmzt | struct mdp_blit_req_list req_list; |
| 23:54.07 | cr2 | tmzt: maybe it's 3D only ? |
| 23:54.20 | cr2 | tmzt: i'm pretty sure we can enable the hw refresh |
| 23:54.40 | tmzt | jbq said the display can update with a static image with a11 suspended |
| 23:54.53 | cr2 | mickeyl: there are many funny things in this kernel |
| 23:55.09 | mickeyl | right. i guess we need more manpower to make it mainline compatible |
| 23:55.11 | cr2 | tmzt: in the non-MDDI mode ? |
| 23:55.24 | tmzt | are issue isn't really refreshing the display, it's more dma to the mddi chip |
| 23:55.36 | tmzt | not sure, I think it relies on a framebuffer in the mddi chip |
| 23:56.01 | cr2 | mddi client chip (toshiba/epson have their own fbram |
| 23:56.08 | cr2 | and even support PIP |
| 23:58.35 | tmzt | what is non-MDDI mode? |
| 23:59.11 | tmzt | lama: I think those devices (android ones) will be msm based, I can't see anyone using pxa3xx for android without an external gpu |
| 23:59.26 | cr2 | tmzt: check the toshiba mini-datasheet |
| 23:59.36 | tmzt | don't have it here |
| 23:59.45 | cr2 | i wish we got a full one ;) |