00:01.30 | wasup | ok... |
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00:23.22 | scatterp | cr2 run linux with as much as possible working on my hermes |
00:24.56 | dcordes_ | good night |
00:27.50 | wasup | g'night dcordes |
00:29.35 | wasup | ali1234: do you know the default username and password for this ubuntu release? |
00:29.44 | ali1234 | user/user it says |
00:32.22 | wasup | ok |
00:32.24 | wasup | yeah. |
00:32.30 | wasup | im slightly retarded |
00:32.31 | wasup | :) |
00:34.17 | ali1234 | i'll be back in about an hour - you need to set up networking and stuff, and make sure you have enough disk space in that image. it needs about 2 to 3 gb to compile kernel i think |
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01:59.21 | scatterp | any one know if theres anyway to mod the htc hermes to have more ram :S |
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02:31.58 | Kevin2 | scatterp: I don't think anyone has gotten X to run on Hermes. Without a flash or SD driver, there isn't much we can do with the linux support. |
02:39.59 | tmzt_ | hermes is s3c? what is the video chip? |
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02:44.57 | tmzt_ | magic google proxy came up? |
02:56.59 | scatterp | Kevin2 oh |
02:57.31 | scatterp | Kevin2 i was reading about the possibility of extra ram and that a cooked rom for it should be easy |
02:57.37 | scatterp | but theres no space inside |
02:57.42 | scatterp | i read that on the forum |
02:57.56 | scatterp | only thing is there is space because theres an unused gps chip... |
02:59.20 | scatterp | whats the best htc phone to buy then ? |
04:19.42 | lama | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ONZzwCBDVA |
04:28.19 | tmzt_ | scatterp: are you talking about the split between programs/storage and dynamically allocated ram? |
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04:45.12 | swetland | waves |
04:45.35 | SanMehat | hola :) |
04:45.45 | swetland | 'evening |
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06:54.38 | Espenfjo | dcordes_: *yawn* pong? |
07:10.35 | lpotter | http://www.linuxworld.com.au/index.php?id=360917304&eid=-50 |
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08:50.25 | *** topic/#htc-linux is HTC Linux Channel: Find logs at http://apt.rikers.org/%23htc-linux/ | please check http://handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/HTC_2dPhones | http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Xanadux | <cr2> let's define a common setup. |
08:51.57 | BabelO_ | kiozen: yes if you have png :) |
08:52.10 | BabelO_ | kiozen: or one of your map, but it will be next step |
08:52.29 | kiozen | BabelO_: only map, I keep it small ;) |
08:59.58 | kiozen | BabelO_: sent |
09:01.43 | BabelO_ | kiozen: just got it , thx |
09:10.48 | BabelO_ | kiozen: circle are not always same size ... poor |
09:11.36 | kiozen | BabelO_: not poor, just precise, The one is trees, the other one scrubs |
09:12.26 | BabelO_ | kiozen: ok, foudn an algorithm to detect them for you, so it can add waypoint automatically :) |
09:12.58 | kiozen | s/scrubs/shrubs/ |
09:13.40 | kiozen | BabelO_: is there a way the user can tell what he/she is looking for? |
09:15.05 | kiozen | BabelO_: for later: the user defines an area, GT will witch to zoomlevel 1 and will process the map screen by screen |
09:15.37 | kiozen | BabelO_: maybe we have to do some overlapping |
09:16.30 | kiozen | BabelO_: how many did you detect? |
09:30.14 | BabelO_ | kiozen: yes user can tell what he is looking for if i implement the algorithm... for cave user need to give me the R of circle |
09:30.47 | BabelO_ | kiozen: and yes zoom level 1 should be better :) |
09:30.55 | kiozen | BabelO_: what circle? |
09:31.08 | BabelO_ | kiozen: the one for cave :) |
09:31.26 | BabelO_ | kiozen: "O_" |
09:31.39 | kiozen | BabelO_: lol, no that are trees |
09:31.46 | BabelO_ | kiozen: ahhhh |
09:31.54 | kiozen | BabelO_: LOL |
09:32.07 | BabelO_ | kiozen: ok i can found tree if you want then |
09:32.08 | BabelO_ | lol |
09:32.26 | kiozen | BabelO_: there are 4 caves on the map ;) |
09:39.51 | kiozen | BabelO_: Rohenloch, Raumhöhle, Felsenloch and ND, just in case you started to count the pine trees... |
10:02.10 | BabelO_ | kiozen: i try to finish the Grid Detect button :) |
10:02.47 | kiozen | BabelO_: ok that is more failsave than caves |
10:03.28 | BabelO_ | kiozen: anyway i want to add some symbol detection to automatically add waypoint, and same for text |
10:04.18 | kiozen | BabelO_: yes I think that would be the feature most users will appreciate |
10:22.02 | cr2 | hi |
10:22.32 | cr2 | http://www.htc.com/www/product/g1/specification.html |
10:23.09 | cr2 | now it's interesting |
10:23.41 | BabelO_ | hi cr2 |
10:23.43 | BabelO_ | yes, Special Features Digital Compass, Motion Sensor |
10:24.25 | cr2 | so i'd only research the gpios, lcd panel init and fm radio operation |
10:25.05 | cr2 | the rest can be assimilated :) |
10:26.04 | cr2 | and the arm11-arm9 ipc is probably different. |
10:27.13 | cr2 | BabelO: i'd like to see the kernel source and the rom dump :) |
10:35.38 | BabelO_ | cr2: i not really like this device 320x480( :) ) 192Mb or ram should be enough but i like number like 128Mb or 256 Mb... |
10:35.48 | BabelO_ | i will wait second generation device :) |
10:36.12 | cr2 | 192=128+64 |
10:36.38 | cr2 | i've got a funny idea to boot from the second bank. |
10:37.17 | cr2 | heh. where do i get this g1 rom ? :) |
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11:37.01 | BabelO_ | cr2, kiozen : ok french are crazzy http://www.fusionman.ch/prod/index.html |
11:38.34 | cr2 | wow, that's impressive |
11:39.36 | BabelO_ | sorry it is not a french guy :) |
11:40.19 | MnemonicPunk | For some reason, I just can't get any image to run on my magician. I've been trying it for a while now but it always locks up with a white screen after "jumping to kernel". |
11:40.53 | MnemonicPunk | Does anyone know possible reasons/solutions to that? |
11:48.07 | cr2 | MnemonicPunk: you may try these http://linuxtogo.org/~ph5/magician/ |
11:49.23 | MnemonicPunk | Yes, that's what I tried. And the ones from goxboxlive. |
11:49.50 | MnemonicPunk | But they all give me a white screen after a few lines of text and I have no clue why. |
11:53.30 | MnemonicPunk | What I did was create a 50MB Fat16 partition (copy the bootloader and default.txt there, copy the zImage there and rename it zImage, all in root dir), and a 1900-something MB ext2 partition and extract the image there via file-roller. Is that right so far? |
11:56.22 | BabelO_ | kiozen: How can i draw a line with drawLines over the QImage ? :) |
11:58.14 | BabelO_ | kiozen: ok QPainter |
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12:06.23 | BabelO_ | MnemonicPunk: white screen mean that your LCD need something special, i seee that pH5 already commit a patch for that |
12:07.32 | MnemonicPunk | Can I do anything about it right now, then? |
12:08.44 | BabelO_ | MnemonicPunk: don't think |
12:10.45 | MnemonicPunk | =( |
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13:06.46 | goxboxlive | MnemonicPunk: I remember now. We havent made any driver yet for all dispplays. Magician is suplied with both topolo (i think the name is) and a samsung. I guess you have the samsung dipslay and you arent able to boot linux yet. |
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13:07.01 | MnemonicPunk | =( |
13:07.23 | cr2 | goxboxlive: but he should be able to ssh, and see the dmesg ? |
13:07.43 | cr2 | goxboxlive: have you disabled ssh over usb in the image ? |
13:07.45 | cr2 | hehe |
13:07.48 | MnemonicPunk | Mine's a T-Mobile MDA, don't know if that helps in distinguishing the hardware. ^ |
13:11.58 | MnemonicPunk | Is there a way for me to find the IP address of a USB device? |
13:12.55 | MnemonicPunk | lsusb shows a "Netchip Technology, Inc. Linux-USB Ethernet/RNDIS Gadget" where the magician was displayed earlier. |
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13:18.52 | MnemonicPunk | What the... it started making sounds all of a sudden. |
13:19.10 | MnemonicPunk | Display is still white though so I guess it's really the driver problem. =( |
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13:32.30 | scatterp | tmzt_ yes im talking about increaseing the ram |
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13:48.52 | NetRipper | oi! |
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13:49.15 | NetRipper | cr2, i found how to make the raw framebuffer work |
13:49.32 | NetRipper | the font is really small on vga screen though :p |
13:49.44 | MnemonicPunk | For which device? o.o |
13:49.47 | NetRipper | had to kill biotouch.exe first |
13:49.50 | NetRipper | raphael |
13:50.05 | NetRipper | im just going to try again to make sure that was the fix, i also disabled tf3d |
13:50.46 | cr2 | scatterp: i've rechecked the hermes cpld gpios |
13:50.56 | MnemonicPunk | Can I somehow help with the display driver for the magician? o.o I really want it to work but I don't think I'm good enough as a coder. |
13:51.07 | NetRipper | anyway, it hangs at the take_control();, it doesn't get to the HaRET Boot\nShutting down hardware line on framebuffer |
13:51.14 | cr2 | NetRipper: i've added a lot of info to raphaelmemorymap |
13:51.23 | NetRipper | cr2, i saw yes, good work |
13:51.30 | cr2 | NetRipper: the fbram is there where i've told you :) |
13:51.45 | NetRipper | yes indeed, but the printing to framebuffer doesn't work unless i killed those apps |
13:52.09 | cr2 | MnemonicPunk: you should enable ssh over usb on your image. |
13:52.13 | NetRipper | perhaps has to do with 3d drivers being active |
13:52.22 | cr2 | NetRipper: which apps ? |
13:52.32 | NetRipper | im just narrowing down to see which app, either tf3d or biotouch.exe |
13:53.20 | MnemonicPunk | cr2: I tried the IP you gave me yesterday but that didn't work so far. How can I enable ssh if it is deactivated? |
13:53.53 | cr2 | MnemonicPunk: mount the image and check /etc/* |
13:53.59 | BabelO_ | MnemonicPunk: edit /etc/sysconfig/network or /etc/network/interface |
13:54.11 | scatterp | c2 what did you find when you rechecked it ? |
13:54.18 | BabelO_ | MnemonicPunk: look at top of file, you should see auto lo just add a line auto usb0 |
13:54.40 | BabelO_ | MnemonicPunk: then found the section where iface usb0 is declared and set your ip adress |
13:55.09 | NetRipper | cr2, seems that it's tf3d |
13:55.09 | scatterp | cr2 what did you find when you rechecked it ?* |
13:55.41 | cr2 | scatterp: some more gpios |
13:56.17 | cr2 | scatterp: i think we'd make bt/phone/ir work first. maybe nand. |
13:56.48 | MnemonicPunk | Okay, I'll try that when I'm back to Linux. (Win right now.) |
13:57.28 | scatterp | cr2 well any kind of comunication would be good if it allowed access to data to make a complete boot up i mean geting things going in a working enviroment would be far easyer right if you could telnet it at least.. |
13:57.42 | BabelO_ | MnemonicPunk: all i say is on your sdcard :) |
13:58.34 | scatterp | cr2 who here would know about hardware modification im intrested in adding extra ram to the device |
13:58.35 | MnemonicPunk | Yeh but Windows won't read ext2/ext3 partitions. (Well it does with a driver but that tends to crash my win. >_> Not that it doesn't already crash enough as it is.) |
13:58.45 | cr2 | scatterp: telnet (over usb) worked always |
13:58.58 | scatterp | cr2 oh well thats a good start i guess.. |
13:59.07 | scatterp | cr2 does x start ? |
13:59.38 | cr2 | scatterp: you can put X on the ramdisk (hehe, android), but it does not make much sense |
14:00.02 | scatterp | cr2 oh so android will start up but it dont work to well ? |
14:00.59 | cr2 | scatterp: i have no idea. |
14:01.11 | scatterp | cr2 i think the priority on the hermes should be nand/wifi |
14:01.13 | cr2 | ok, bt power is resolved. |
14:01.31 | scatterp | cr2 cool so it turns on .. |
14:01.38 | scatterp | cr2 will it connect ? |
14:01.45 | cr2 | scatterp: wifi is too difficult. you may try nand, i'm checking bt/phone/ir |
14:02.08 | cr2 | scatterp: serial needs a sane clock setup. |
14:02.17 | cr2 | scatterp: which is not there yet. |
14:02.21 | scatterp | well could you zip the files you have on your memory stick and upload them then i can boot it up |
14:02.55 | cr2 | scatterp: i#m not that far :) |
14:03.07 | NetRipper | MnemonicPunk, total commander has a nice plugin to read ext2/ext3 partitions |
14:03.32 | NetRipper | and afaik there are enough free tools to read/write ext2/ext3 partitions |
14:04.25 | cr2 | NetRipper: where can we get the g1 android rom ? :) |
14:04.31 | scatterp | cr2 if you could guide me on how to "check" each of the individual things like nand and such i dont mind doing all the work its just im not sure how |
14:05.30 | NetRipper | cr2, cprog.exe must be killed to make haret framebuffer work |
14:05.47 | NetRipper | cr2, i'd like to know as well ;) |
14:06.06 | scatterp | im guessing you have access some how to the mips cpu and you are passing instructions that send data down tracks that look like they go to for example bluetooth and then you fuzz data untill you can make it come to life ? |
14:06.18 | NetRipper | actually we probably need a working g1/htc dream device, that'd be easier |
14:06.30 | NetRipper | the rom might actually need figuring out first |
14:06.45 | cr2 | NetRipper: 22oct |
14:06.49 | scatterp | cr2 would it help if i got some kind of ollydbg for the phone and looked at the "signals" for diffrent stuff like bluetooth but inside windows ? |
14:06.49 | NetRipper | yepz |
14:07.26 | NetRipper | hoping a rom will leak before that time, or someone that extracts initrd and kernel |
14:07.29 | NetRipper | :) |
14:07.50 | cr2 | scatterp: no. |
14:08.09 | cr2 | NetRipper: kernel modules |
14:08.28 | cr2 | NetRipper: for the kernel we'll get the source. |
14:08.41 | scatterp | cr2 how long would it take you to show me how to figure out the non working parts is that a long task ? |
14:08.48 | NetRipper | who knows what kind of changes htc made to the kernel |
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14:09.34 | scatterp | cr2/NetRipper the intresting thing with the new htc dream is that it boots directly in to linux we will see how to do that |
14:09.38 | cr2 | NetRipper: htc is never makes big changes. i'm worried about wifi and cam. |
14:09.58 | cr2 | scatterp: the kernel is on nand there. |
14:10.08 | NetRipper | cr2, they're the kind of company that'll take shortcuts if they can fix anything by changing the kernel instead of doing it via modules |
14:10.10 | dcordes_ | cr2: do you think we can mime the g1 software to make a raphael/diamond bootloader? |
14:10.17 | MnemonicPunk | The Dream is the G1? |
14:10.22 | NetRipper | MnemonicPunk, yes |
14:10.23 | cr2 | NetRipper: and i hope that the accelerometer chip is the same as on raph100 |
14:10.55 | scatterp | cr2 i think also that most things that were broke on all the phones will be fixed because it will show us the way we just need a rom :( |
14:10.59 | NetRipper | the g1 has a compass, not an accelerometer, i think it's a real difference |
14:11.03 | cr2 | dcordes_: if we will have the bootloader |
14:11.17 | marajin | NetRipper: has both |
14:11.20 | scatterp | when does the g1 release was that not yesterday ? |
14:11.24 | cr2 | NetRipper: it's htc speak i think |
14:11.30 | NetRipper | marajin, ah |
14:11.46 | cr2 | NetRipper: there is compass irq in the raphael wince kernel. whatever that is |
14:12.02 | NetRipper | actually now you mention it, i remember reading about a demo where they throw the dream into the air and it measures the time it's inthe air, it'd need a accelerometer for that |
14:12.04 | marajin | did we find out what ram/confirm the screen for the G1 yet? |
14:12.14 | cr2 | scatterp: it was just an anouncement. you can pre-order it in the US for 22oct |
14:12.20 | dcordes_ | marajin: htc.com |
14:12.24 | marajin | NetRipper: It unarguably has an accelerometer |
14:12.32 | NetRipper | oki :) |
14:12.48 | MnemonicPunk | Will it be possible to switch the distro running on the G1? Or do they wanna lock one in? |
14:12.49 | marajin | it's mention time and time again in presentations and whatnot |
14:12.54 | marajin | and code examples |
14:12.57 | dcordes_ | http://www.htc.com/us/product/g1/specification.html |
14:13.07 | scatterp | cr2 oh thats a shame |
14:13.24 | cr2 | MnemonicPunk: they _may_ lock it. |
14:13.36 | marajin | Oh, 192, nice |
14:13.48 | marajin | 192 with HVGA isn't terrible |
14:13.52 | dcordes_ | I wonder if the 7201A kernel will be released before the market date of the phone |
14:13.53 | cr2 | but htc has very bad record on locking anything :) |
14:14.09 | marajin | cr2: yeah and xda-dev people have an excellent record of unlocking ;) |
14:14.12 | NetRipper | 7201A is already supported in latest kernel, isn't it |
14:14.22 | cr2 | htc wants to sell hardware |
14:14.38 | MnemonicPunk | I don't really get why they call it "open platform" yet don't release the sources... Guess they need the T-Mobile exclusive deal first to get an edge on the iPhone. xD |
14:14.39 | scatterp | cr2 how long would it take you to show me how to figure out the non working parts is that a long task ? |
14:14.41 | marajin | actually that device looks pretty reasonable ya know |
14:14.44 | cr2 | i guess they don't give a fsck about t-mob profits ;) |
14:14.47 | marajin | the raphael is more powerful but.. |
14:14.55 | marajin | on a cost effective evaluation... |
14:15.06 | cr2 | scatterp: it#s not so simple as you think |
14:15.28 | scatterp | cr2 give me an outline if i understood all this i would put time to it... |
14:15.29 | cr2 | marajin: reasonable from the htc specs. |
14:16.05 | marajin | well yeah, but we can fix software issues ourselves. I'd hate to buy one and it be underpowered |
14:16.07 | cr2 | marajin: raphael has 256M ram, fm/rds radio and a sane vga screen. and it's smaller |
14:16.10 | marajin | . o 0 ( Kaiser video... ) |
14:16.20 | marajin | I don't give a good goddamn about smaller though :p |
14:16.56 | marajin | and yes the htc specs say it has both compass and accelerometer |
14:17.08 | cr2 | marajin: then you'd buy this 3.8" model without the keyboard. |
14:17.28 | marajin | well 'motion sensor' which is a very stupid thing to say but it's definitely an accelerometer |
14:17.34 | marajin | cr2: what? |
14:17.36 | NetRipper | cr2, regarding the haret framebuffer, i'll experiment a bit more tonight or tomorrow about which processes to kill... it worked when i disabled tf3d in today preferences, killed cprog.exe and killed biotouch.exe |
14:17.41 | NetRipper | i'll let you know when i have results on that |
14:17.41 | NetRipper | :) |
14:17.42 | cr2 | marajin: how is the compass done ? |
14:17.58 | cr2 | NetRipper: ok. |
14:17.59 | marajin | cr2: It's a digital compass, you've never seen one ? |
14:18.38 | cr2 | marajin: ok, so it'd be on the i2c bus |
14:18.56 | cr2 | marajin: there are several weird devices on the raphael i2c bus |
14:19.06 | marajin | yeah, it'd operate almost exactly like the accelerometer as far as I know |
14:19.12 | cr2 | i need to fix haret, and do some tracing :) |
14:19.17 | marajin | but it'd be easy to hook into on android. |
14:19.33 | scatterp | cr2 hmm so is there anything i can do to help ? |
14:19.47 | marajin | cr2: You're thinking that the raph might have the compass but it's not used ? |
14:19.50 | cr2 | a chardev spewing some data is not difficult to hook anywhere :) |
14:19.53 | marajin | like the hermes gps chip? |
14:20.19 | scatterp | marajin i heard the gps chip is physicly disconnected |
14:20.44 | marajin | scatterp: Only from its aerial I think, one of the pins may be shorted/missing from what I dimly remember. |
14:20.51 | cr2 | marajin: 49 0x31 6 compass irq |
14:20.53 | marajin | but I think they got it to talk to the gps chip just in software? |
14:21.02 | cr2 | http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Raphael_GPIO |
14:21.24 | marajin | It's kinda sad when they include the actual hardware anyway but disable it, seems a waste of money |
14:21.27 | cr2 | gps is done in software |
14:21.29 | NetRipper | marajin, yes on the hermes they could get nmea data, but it was false data, and virtually impossible to connect an antenna |
14:21.38 | cr2 | look at the MSM7200 diagramm |
14:21.39 | NetRipper | with a hacked readio rom |
14:21.39 | marajin | yeah |
14:21.42 | marajin | but the chip was still there |
14:21.45 | NetRipper | yes |
14:22.02 | marajin | on a compass, it'd probably be pretty much full operational and just lack software support |
14:22.12 | cr2 | it's a similar LNA+I/Q downconverter |
14:22.55 | dcordes_ | cr2: doesn't gps just interface to smem like on the 7x00? |
14:23.01 | marajin | Well cr2, have a play, you might gain some legendary status for the man that turned the Raphael into the most expensive digital compass ever ;) |
14:23.39 | NetRipper | g1's modules/kernel may just automatically detect and make the compass available if it's there ;) |
14:23.44 | marajin | the digital compass inclusion in the device seems borderline pointless though |
14:23.46 | cr2 | dcordes_: the dsp processes the gps i/q data, and provides you with the nmea datastream on a SMD channel (soft uart) |
14:23.59 | marajin | it's only used for like, automatically rotating street view in the maps |
14:24.05 | marajin | or I guess when GPS is unavailable |
14:24.10 | cr2 | lol |
14:24.11 | marajin | but if you're outside GPS is nearly always available |
14:24.37 | dcordes_ | marajin: didn't you see the new android propaganda vids? |
14:24.58 | marajin | dcordes_: No, I've been busy |
14:25.18 | scatterp | cr2 are you visualy or with some kinda equipment traceing the tracks from cpu to the diffrent devices ? |
14:25.20 | marajin | why, did they find an actual pointful use for the compass beyond like 'hey look, streetview orients itself automatically |
14:25.23 | cr2 | dcordes_: we don't need propaganda, we need g1 modules :) |
14:25.35 | marajin | which is dumb cause you can just associate the landmarks of the photo manually -.- |
14:25.43 | scatterp | cr2 anything i can read about how this traceing works ? |
14:26.02 | cr2 | scatterp: software only |
14:26.05 | dcordes_ | marajin: they show off some use cases |
14:26.33 | cr2 | marajin: accelerometer should be enough for streetview |
14:26.51 | NetRipper | cr2, once you know your initial position |
14:26.53 | marajin | like what? compass is an archaic navigation technology and only useful when gps is unavailable or you're static |
14:26.59 | marajin | cr2: you'd have to zero it first |
14:27.06 | cr2 | since athena has the same accelerometer as moko2, we may check such things anyway. |
14:27.23 | scatterp | cr2 looking at the gpio for hermes on the site theres not a lot missing.. |
14:27.26 | dcordes_ | cr2: somebody ever tried to use it? |
14:27.34 | dcordes_ | on athena |
14:27.49 | cr2 | marajin: the local magnetic field does not tell you the street orientation anyway. |
14:28.07 | cr2 | dcordes_: afaik, no. only on shift |
14:28.21 | marajin | cr2: It tells you the device orientation though on a 2d plane |
14:28.45 | marajin | cr2: the point is that it lets the device rotate a 360 panoramic photo of the street you're in |
14:28.46 | cr2 | it's a wild approximation anyway |
14:28.49 | marajin | it's dumb |
14:28.50 | marajin | completely pointless |
14:28.55 | cr2 | yeah |
14:29.02 | dcordes_ | cr2: shift has the freerunner accerlometer as well? |
14:29.19 | cr2 | dcordes_: yes, a slightly different model |
14:29.49 | dcordes_ | marajin: ha, yea better get there and rotate 360° using your feet |
14:29.59 | cr2 | NetRipper: the most funny device on raph100 is the fm radio. |
14:30.09 | NetRipper | how so? |
14:30.13 | scatterp | cr2 i cant get you the g1 rom but i can get you something that may help |
14:30.19 | scatterp | cr2 there is a g1 emulator |
14:30.22 | scatterp | http://code.google.com/android/ |
14:30.37 | scatterp | the code may not be identical to the end product but i bet its simular |
14:30.39 | marajin | dcordes_: exactly, it doesn't matter |
14:30.42 | NetRipper | it doesn't contain any g1 specific code |
14:30.43 | cr2 | and the microP.dll which controlls the key backlight. |
14:30.57 | dcordes_ | marajin: but all that will sell, I'm telling you |
14:31.02 | cr2 | scatterp: it's about binary device drivers for the actual hardware |
14:31.14 | marajin | dcordes_: I never said it was unmarketable, I said it was a redundant feature |
14:31.41 | NetRipper | cr2, how is the fm radio 'funny'? :) |
14:31.46 | scatterp | cr2 ok |
14:31.48 | cr2 | marajin: does iephone have it ? |
14:32.03 | dcordes_ | marajin: no doubt |
14:32.04 | marajin | compass? no |
14:32.21 | cr2 | NetRipper: it's controlled with some ti .bts scripts |
14:32.37 | dcordes_ | cr2: but accerlometer, you've probably seen them in the blackstone vs iphone video :) |
14:32.46 | cr2 | marajin: therefore iephone sucks :) |
14:32.52 | marajin | heh |
14:33.14 | marajin | well it has GPS and accelerometer, all you need :p |
14:33.15 | cr2 | dcordes_: yes. |
14:33.48 | cr2 | if g1 will be locked as iephone, who cares about ? |
14:33.53 | NetRipper | cr2, does it make it easier to control the hardware? I have no idea how bts scripts work |
14:34.12 | NetRipper | i.e. to reverse engineer it |
14:34.30 | marajin | It won't be software locked |
14:34.36 | cr2 | NetRipper: it's raw binary. i'm just curious why are they doing it, and how the fm radio looks like |
14:34.56 | cr2 | marajin: can i do 'dd' from nand on g1 ? |
14:35.15 | dcordes_ | cr2: the same who prefer things like showing off the street view rotating to their friends over the use of free software |
14:35.17 | marajin | hell should I know, that's firmware |
14:35.31 | marajin | I meant you can install any programs you want unlike the iPhone |
14:36.09 | dcordes_ | cr2: maybe they have the terminal enabled in the g1 rom. but I doubt it |
14:36.14 | cr2 | dcordes_: it may have been easier to write a wince program. like skype |
14:36.15 | NetRipper | cr2, aha.. |
14:37.07 | cr2 | NetRipper: and it should be easy to trace, as the bt uart traffic. |
14:37.19 | cr2 | in haret |
14:37.34 | NetRipper | heh marajin, most people I have spoken got very anxious when i showed them the teeter game :p |
14:37.43 | cr2 | dcordes_: i think it will be like a780 |
14:37.45 | NetRipper | cr2, oh that's good news :) |
14:38.00 | NetRipper | cr2, i'd love to try to get TMC out of the fm radio |
14:38.05 | NetRipper | from the rds chan |
14:38.25 | cr2 | NetRipper: yes, rds+gps is much more important than fm ;) |
14:39.02 | NetRipper | exactly :p |
14:39.11 | scatterp | cr2 whats the software you use to do the tracing ? |
14:39.18 | cr2 | NetRipper: there is a mtype for raphael, haret needs some minor patch now. |
14:39.34 | NetRipper | oh, i should update my cvs then |
14:39.37 | cr2 | and to extend the gpio .py tracer for the bank5 |
14:39.38 | NetRipper | it wasnt there a few days ago |
14:40.02 | cr2 | scatterp: read the haret docs |
14:40.36 | cr2 | http://www.handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/HaRET_20Documentation |
14:40.57 | NetRipper | cr2, cvs is not updated with a raphael mtype |
14:41.08 | dcordes_ | cr2: I don't know how it is on tha a780, how do you connect/dump on it? |
14:41.14 | cr2 | NetRipper: i don't have write access to haret CVS |
14:41.27 | cr2 | dcordes_: i mean the software model |
14:41.32 | NetRipper | me neither, can you make a patch? |
14:41.36 | NetRipper | diff |
14:42.24 | cr2 | dcordes_: the kernel source is published, there are some binary modules (mdocg3) and the gsm radio firmware is signed with an RSA key. |
14:42.56 | cr2 | NetRipper: i've not written this patch yet :) |
14:43.38 | dcordes_ | cr2: I have the feeling some binary drivers are almost for sure and arm9 won't be easy to access |
14:43.46 | NetRipper | cr2, you just mentioned there is an mtype for raphael, did you make it or do i misunderstand something? :) |
14:44.19 | cr2 | NetRipper: get the mach-types file from armlinux |
14:44.35 | cr2 | http://www.arm.linux.org.uk/developer/machines/download.php |
14:44.39 | NetRipper | another haret repos? |
14:44.56 | NetRipper | ohh |
14:44.59 | NetRipper | i see |
14:45.06 | scatterp | cr2 i think ive got it im going to play around with this |
14:49.50 | cr2 | NetRipper: 3x4 keypad will serve 12 keys, but i think raphael/diamond have 11 keys ? the 12th (power key) should be separate |
14:49.51 | NetRipper | and the htc diamond has been there a while already |
14:50.30 | cr2 | diamond is an older device |
14:50.34 | NetRipper | yes |
14:50.39 | NetRipper | but it has no support in haret either |
14:51.00 | cr2 | yes. |
14:51.01 | NetRipper | and raphael/diamond, keypad? what are you talking about |
14:51.15 | cr2 | but i must have some haret log about it |
14:51.50 | NetRipper | log saying what? |
14:51.51 | cr2 | Trying to detect machine (Plat='PocketPC' OEM='HTC Touch Diamond P3700') |
14:51.56 | NetRipper | er |
14:52.06 | NetRipper | man people should commit that shit to a respository |
14:52.45 | cr2 | well, we may use xanadux cvs for urgent things. |
14:53.17 | NetRipper | anyway i can add that kind of support for raphael as well, doesn't but internally it'd just refer to the MSM7500 |
14:53.27 | NetRipper | i.e. adding a bare bone device description |
14:53.51 | NetRipper | in fact i already had that, but took it out as i couldnt get framebuffer to work |
14:53.54 | NetRipper | so i may try it again |
14:54.15 | NetRipper | as i saw light inthe framebuffer thing |
14:54.15 | NetRipper | ;) |
14:54.18 | cr2 | Detected machine Generic ARM v6/generic (Plat='PocketPC' OEM='HTC Touch Pro T7272') |
14:54.38 | NetRipper | yes, that's just because it takes the identifier from wince |
14:54.45 | cr2 | this should be fixed, so it'll be detected as 7200A |
14:54.59 | cr2 | there is no other sane way. |
14:55.13 | NetRipper | yea, but haret does not have specific support for 7200.. it uses the same gpio's and irq's as msm7500 |
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14:55.31 | help9111 | he;[ |
14:55.35 | help9111 | help |
14:55.35 | cr2 | 7200 and 7500 are the same |
14:55.55 | cr2 | it's A that is a bit different |
14:56.17 | help9111 | has anyone in here sucessfully been able to load android using qtopia? |
14:56.19 | NetRipper | ok |
14:56.51 | NetRipper | class MachineMSM7200 : public MachineMSM7500 { |
14:56.51 | NetRipper | }; |
14:56.58 | NetRipper | // XXX - assume they are the same for now. |
14:57.32 | NetRipper | i'll play around with that again |
14:57.32 | cr2 | Kaiser, MSM7200 ,Kaiser |
14:57.32 | NetRipper | yes |
14:57.40 | cr2 | it's the only "supported" device |
14:58.17 | NetRipper | for Raphael it'll probably be: Kaiser, MSM7200A, Raphael RAPH100 "HTC Touch Pro T7272" |
14:58.20 | NetRipper | er |
14:58.25 | NetRipper | Raphael instead of Kaiser obviously |
14:58.38 | cr2 | and even it does not have a mtype tag |
14:58.58 | NetRipper | yea, not required |
14:59.03 | cr2 | then you need a class for MSM7200A |
14:59.09 | NetRipper | yes |
14:59.21 | NetRipper | and a predefined list of gpio's and irqs |
14:59.30 | cr2 | not really |
14:59.36 | cr2 | it's done in .py |
14:59.57 | cr2 | regs_msm.py |
15:00.15 | cr2 | memalias.RegsList['ARCH:MSM7500'] = Regs_msm7500 |
15:00.21 | NetRipper | i'm looking at init() in MachineMSM7500::init() |
15:00.34 | NetRipper | hm |
15:01.05 | NetRipper | i see |
15:01.11 | cr2 | so we only need to define the Regs_msm7200A |
15:01.15 | cr2 | with more gpios |
15:01.22 | NetRipper | then what is the list for in the init() |
15:01.26 | cr2 | for bank5 |
15:01.54 | cr2 | it's "default" |
15:02.09 | cr2 | set ramaddr 0x10000000 |
15:02.17 | NetRipper | yes |
15:02.26 | cr2 | btw, on raph100 it'd be possible to boot from 0x20000000 |
15:02.56 | NetRipper | to be on safe side you mean? |
15:02.58 | cr2 | then wince will survive :) |
15:03.13 | NetRipper | hehe, wince may die |
15:03.15 | cr2 | the SMEM will be overwritten anyway |
15:03.39 | NetRipper | and when linux boots it'll init all the mem anyway |
15:04.04 | cr2 | but i guess it's a non-trivial task to allocate physical ram there. |
15:04.58 | cr2 | still may be a nice task for haret |
15:05.39 | NetRipper | you can probably make haret use that by changing the ramaddr and ramsize |
15:06.05 | cr2 | i guess the .py changes +machlist.txt should be enough for tracing |
15:06.35 | NetRipper | and msm7200a class |
15:06.50 | cr2 | yes |
15:07.13 | NetRipper | are there other existing haret repositories? |
15:07.31 | cr2 | no |
15:07.49 | cr2 | hh.org is the main |
15:07.54 | NetRipper | maybe we can contact haret author |
15:07.56 | NetRipper | to get xs |
15:08.12 | NetRipper | anyway i can also put up a temporary cvs/svn to play with |
15:08.25 | cr2 | Kevin2 appears late at night sometimes |
15:08.34 | NetRipper | kevin2 is the author? |
15:08.51 | cr2 | the main author |
15:08.54 | NetRipper | shame on me for asking btw |
15:08.55 | NetRipper | ;) |
15:09.33 | help9111 | hey guys, i am using qtopia-artemis.exe to and qtopiaphone-artemis-image.rootfs.tar.bz2 |
15:10.04 | help9111 | i tried to modify the bz2 and include the conents of system.tar.gz and data.tar.gz from google's android |
15:10.19 | cr2 | help9111: wtf does android have to do with qtopia ? |
15:10.34 | cr2 | help9111: ok, now i ge it |
15:11.10 | cr2 | help9111: i think it should be documented in haret, how to create the selfbootable images |
15:11.17 | help9111 | and i rplaced the /sbin/init in the bz2 with the /init from the system.tar.gz file from android |
15:11.40 | NetRipper | gtg, bbl |
15:11.44 | help9111 | i get a kernal panic when i boot after it extracts everthing |
15:12.09 | help9111 | it seems to hapen right after it says its doing somethin with init |
15:12.54 | help9111 | wut do i need to do? i am abit noob at this |
15:14.13 | help9111 | "i think it should be documented in haret, how to create the selfbootable images" -> can u point me in the right direction to learn this |
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15:22.37 | MnemonicPunk | So what are the chances of someone writing a magician samsung display driver? o.o |
15:28.55 | MnemonicPunk | (I'd try it myself, I just don't have any idea how to do that. o.o) |
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15:41.47 | MnemonicPunk | It starts really well now. Good sound (no more stuttering), reacts to the touchscreen and all... Just the display won't do anything. =( |
15:45.19 | scatterp | cr2 if i map all these gpios will that be everything you need to make linux work ? |
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15:47.19 | NetRipper | MnemonicPunk, afaik framebuffer driver should work |
15:47.24 | NetRipper | fb_dev |
15:47.35 | NetRipper | at least works on most devices |
15:47.38 | MnemonicPunk | NetRipper: How do I tell it to use that? |
15:48.04 | NetRipper | edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf probably |
15:48.11 | NetRipper | havent had a functional linux on my phone yet ;) |
15:48.23 | NetRipper | so not that familiar with the rootfs's |
15:48.25 | ale22944 | Hi all! I've got an Htc Artemis 100 (italian), any new linux release ? Thanks |
15:48.44 | MnemonicPunk | I installed it into an image this time so no chance looking into the file structure right now. |
15:49.17 | MnemonicPunk | But I'll try that later today. In case it works, where do I publish the changes for others to use as well? |
15:50.29 | NetRipper | MnemonicPunk, no idea |
15:50.41 | MnemonicPunk | lol |
15:50.55 | NetRipper | xda devs forums? |
15:50.55 | NetRipper | :) |
15:51.09 | MnemonicPunk | Okay, if it does work I'll just annoy goxboxlive long enough to add that to his images. ;p |
15:51.51 | NetRipper | :) |
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16:50.44 | MnemonicPunk | BabelO? You had the idea of letting the device run with framebuffer display driver, right? Do you know how to achieve that? |
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16:55.36 | SanMehat | morning |
17:07.27 | BabelO_ | morning SanMehat |
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17:07.45 | BabelO_ | MnemonicPunk: i see the patch for samsung somewhere but don't think it is working |
17:07.53 | BabelO_ | pH5 know more |
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17:12.30 | MnemonicPunk | Somebody mentioned using the framebuffer instead. o.o |
17:13.52 | goxboxlive | MnemonicPunk: if you are able to build the kernel yourself then you just can compile it from the kernel source. AFAIR the driver is added to the source but noone has made a image with that driver yet. |
17:16.09 | MnemonicPunk | I got 2 Linux' installed on my PC, what do I need to compile the kernel? |
17:17.58 | goxboxlive | I have made a howto on the hh.org wiki page. hold on i'll find the howto |
17:19.02 | goxboxlive | MnemonicPunk: but just remember that you build for magician and not universal: http://www.handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/UniversalKernel |
17:19.23 | MnemonicPunk | Thanks a lot. =) |
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17:26.38 | marajin | anyone good at ciphers? |
17:30.02 | NetRipper | mathematical? not at all :) |
17:30.47 | marajin | Well, basically this: GSM 32489-24962-14863-3245489-147423-321478953-14789-24862-1475963-7415963-147456369-3245489-14789-74123654 |
17:33.47 | NetRipper | erm |
17:33.58 | NetRipper | so like, what's that? |
17:34.10 | marajin | I have no idea beyond the fact that it's a cipher |
17:34.42 | NetRipper | for what? |
17:34.48 | NetRipper | imei? |
17:35.05 | marajin | I think it should translate to something plaintext but I really don |
17:35.08 | marajin | 't know |
17:35.11 | NetRipper | aha |
17:35.30 | NetRipper | base 10 to base 26 translation? ;) |
17:36.01 | MnemonicPunk | Who makes up those bases? o.O |
17:36.22 | marajin | 10 is standard numeric, 26 is the number of letters in the english alphabet |
17:36.26 | SanMehat | re: |
17:36.29 | NetRipper | someone that the base are belongs to |
17:36.30 | marajin | hey SanMehat |
17:36.37 | paulproteus | MnemonicPunk, What's your status? I just got back after a few days. |
17:36.49 | MnemonicPunk | "ALL YOUR BASE ARE BELONG TO US"? |
17:37.08 | tcccp | erm |
17:37.18 | tcccp | I have seen guys in #iraq saying so ;) |
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17:37.43 | tcccp | MnemonicPunk: #iraq: All your base are belong to u.s. |
17:37.49 | NetRipper | hehe |
17:37.57 | MnemonicPunk | paulproteus: Still won't run but with the help of some of the folks here I may be able to do it. xD |
17:38.17 | MnemonicPunk | tcccp: I see we have bash.org readers around. ^^ |
17:38.39 | tcccp | sort of |
17:39.28 | MnemonicPunk | The iraq one is true, though. ^^ |
17:39.40 | NetRipper | not at all |
17:39.58 | NetRipper | netherlands own u.s. so in fact we own all iraqs base |
17:40.26 | MnemonicPunk | Reminds me of that T-Shirt I saw the other day: "US World Domination Tour - bombing a country near you" ^^ |
17:40.37 | marajin | Quite a few countries combined own the US at the moment |
17:41.00 | marajin | as my friend said, 'Well it's one way for the brits to win the war of independance, just wait a few hundred years and then buy the bloody country back' |
17:41.31 | MnemonicPunk | There was that awesome letter by John Cleese. |
17:41.36 | MnemonicPunk | Let me see if I find the link. |
17:42.08 | MnemonicPunk | Here: http://urbanlegends.about.com/library/blrevocation_cleese.htm |
17:46.18 | MnemonicPunk | goxboxlive? There's no htcmagician_defconfig, does it have a different name? |
17:46.58 | MnemonicPunk | nvm, found it |
17:47.25 | help9111 | can anyone help me get android to run on my htc artemis? |
17:50.21 | help9111 | does anyone here have an htc artemis? |
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17:56.33 | MnemonicPunk | Sorry to say that goxboxlive but I think I still need your help.When I try to compile it says "make: arm-none-linux-gnueabi-gcc: command not found", any idea what causes that? |
18:02.30 | GPFerror | arm-none-linux-gnueabi-gcc is not in your path, or not installed |
18:04.26 | MnemonicPunk | Hm. |
18:04.55 | MnemonicPunk | The package I downloaded is eabi. I guess eabi and gnuabi differ somehow? |
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18:10.55 | eTiger13 | how do i get haret to run without having to click the run button? |
18:11.28 | imfloflo | hello everyone |
18:13.50 | MnemonicPunk | eTiger13: Instead of using the default.txt, create a file called startup.txt in the same folder. |
18:14.16 | MnemonicPunk | eTiger13: It'll behave the same only that it automatically executes the script as soon as you start haret |
18:15.48 | MnemonicPunk | Kernel won't compile, doesn't find its files. =( |
18:16.03 | MnemonicPunk | Be back in an hour, hope someone might be willing to assist me then. =) |
18:19.35 | eTiger13 | do i need default and startup? |
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18:21.16 | ali1234 | eTiger13: i dont think so, just rename default.txt to startup.txt |
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18:21.29 | ali1234 | but let us know if it works, for future reference, k? |
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18:24.50 | cr2 | suse is solid and reliable |
18:24.56 | cr2 | Xorg[26822]: segfault at 1b8 ip 54e3a5 sp 7fff8cac1810 error 4 in Xorg[400000+1bf000] |
18:25.10 | ali1234 | cr2: you are being sarcastic right? |
18:29.19 | eTiger13 | last time i tried just renaming it, it didnt work |
18:30.01 | eTiger13 | oh wait now its working |
18:31.53 | ali1234 | sometimes, on some machines, haret can be a bit flakey, and nobody really seems to know why |
18:32.30 | ali1234 | if you get hangs, best to try it a few times just in case |
18:36.45 | kiozen | diogene31_: I have made it a bit easier to center to a map not at your current location |
18:36.52 | kiozen | diogene31_: svn up M |
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18:46.25 | goxboxlive | MnemonicPunk: follow the guide and you wil make it. Remember to export path to the crosscompilers bin directory. |
18:47.05 | goxboxlive | maybe it is named magician_defconfig . I dont remeber, it's so long time since i tried |
18:47.29 | goxboxlive | also remember to add the samsung driver, i think it is topoly default |
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19:05.43 | imfloflo | hello |
19:05.55 | imfloflo | ready to test polaris zimage ^^ |
19:09.16 | dcordes | imfloflo: didn't look at the polaris on screen keyboard yet |
19:14.48 | diogene31_ | kiozen: OK. Will do it a bit later, I'm working on calendar sync ATM. |
19:15.12 | kiozen | diogene31_: no rush :) |
19:23.13 | imfloflo | dcordes: i 'll wait :p |
19:24.41 | MnemonicPunk | I can't find the driver. o.o |
19:25.21 | dcordes | MnemonicPunk: which driver? what are you doing? |
19:26.30 | MnemonicPunk | I'm trying to find a certain display driver for the magician. But I don't know where it is. ^^ |
19:26.43 | MnemonicPunk | The other problem is: I can't compile. |
19:30.58 | dcordes | MnemonicPunk: are you working in the hh.org tree? |
19:32.55 | MnemonicPunk | It says something about version hh20. |
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19:34.01 | ricky90 | good evening |
19:34.33 | ricky90 | I've got this problem: the booting on himalaya hangs on "starting portmap daemon: portmap" |
19:38.21 | imfloflo | dcordes : if you want to test some new things i'm op |
19:40.11 | ricky90 | ... and |
19:40.53 | ricky90 | probably I have also the solution, because one on the forum had my same problem and resolved it: |
19:41.06 | ricky90 | "I modified the startup file to start /bin/sh instead of init and got a root shell prompt after the kernel boot." |
19:41.51 | ricky90 | so I've changed init=/linuxrc to init=/bin/sh |
19:41.59 | ricky90 | and It doesn't work |
19:42.31 | dcordes | MnemonicPunk: what's your problem with compiling? can you pastebin the error you get? |
19:42.45 | dcordes | MnemonicPunk: and which particular driver are you looking for? |
19:43.41 | dcordes | ricky90: what distro? |
19:43.50 | dcordes | ricky90: maybe try init=/sbin/init ? |
19:44.09 | MnemonicPunk | There seems to be a second graphics driver for the HTC Magician that would work with my device. |
19:44.15 | ricky90 | no distro, only linux kernel http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HimalayaLinuxBooting |
19:44.50 | ricky90 | ok I'll try /sbin/init |
19:45.47 | dcordes | ricky90: I made some build for himalaya a while ago: http://linuxtogo.org/~lgorris/index.php?path=himalaya/ |
19:45.56 | dcordes | but it doesn't do much iirc |
19:46.15 | ricky90 | thank you a lot! |
19:46.33 | dcordes | ricky90: did you try to wait a few minutes for portmap daemon to start? |
19:46.45 | ricky90 | yes |
19:46.56 | ricky90 | after the screen become all black |
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19:47.16 | dcordes | ricky90: maybe your filesystem is broken |
19:47.33 | ricky90 | it's my new SD but.... |
19:48.00 | ricky90 | probably... I don't know |
19:48.36 | MnemonicPunk | It hink this line is wrong: "make CROSS_COMPILE=arm-none-linux-gnueabi- " What should I put there? |
19:49.19 | MnemonicPunk | (The directories are in my path but the prefix looks totally wrong to me.) |
19:49.49 | BabelO | kiozen: around ? i have some mathematical problem ... |
19:50.17 | kiozen | BabelO: oui |
19:51.48 | ricky90 | however with /sbin/init it's the same thing (hangs on portmap) |
19:52.40 | dcordes | MnemonicPunk: change the prefix name to match your toolchain then. |
19:53.13 | dcordes | MnemonicPunk: if it's not in the working directory, but in an additional subdir, you must specify the subdirectory/pre-fix- |
19:54.06 | MnemonicPunk | I tried that just yet. now it says scripts/mod/sumversion.c:384: Error: »PATH_MAX« undeclared |
19:55.48 | MnemonicPunk | In function "get_src_version", can I set that manually? |
19:58.43 | dcordes | MnemonicPunk: hm don't know. I didn't have to set that in hh.org tree while building for blueangel and hima |
20:01.00 | ricky90 | drcodes: I've tried your build |
20:01.13 | ricky90 | drcodes: it's a very ugly kernel panic |
20:02.36 | ricky90 | but one part of the screen is covered by a white rectangle, but this was also with the normal build |
20:03.26 | ricky90 | so I can read only "not syncing: VFS: Unable to mo... -white rectangle- on unknown-block (254,2) |
20:03.53 | ricky90 | do you think is the filesystem? |
20:04.04 | dcordes | shrugs |
20:04.32 | dcordes | ricky90: 254, 2 will be sd. extract the rootfs to the second partition of yours d card |
20:04.39 | dcordes | (x11-hima..) |
20:05.01 | ricky90 | ahem... |
20:05.06 | ricky90 | :D |
20:05.17 | dcordes | ricky90: look in the default.txt: it tells haret to use "root=/dev/mmcblk0p2 rootdelay=5" |
20:05.20 | dcordes | as cmdline |
20:08.34 | cr2 | BabelO: M for wince ? |
20:09.00 | kiozen | cr2: shhh, he is bussy finding lines... |
20:09.28 | BabelO | lol, yes lines :) |
20:09.43 | BabelO | cr2: it seem that proj-4.6 is failing for wince |
20:10.21 | MnemonicPunk | Should I just checkout again? |
20:11.18 | cr2 | BabelO: strange, it's pure math there |
20:11.35 | BabelO | cr2: yes |
20:11.50 | BabelO | gdal is ok with the wince sdk and patch |
20:11.53 | BabelO | but not proj |
20:12.04 | ricky90 | drcodes: sorry about this, I'll try tomorrow |
20:12.12 | ricky90 | see you guys |
20:13.25 | dcordes | MnemonicPunk: did you deploy a defconfig? |
20:13.42 | MnemonicPunk | Yes. |
20:13.50 | MnemonicPunk | magician_defconfig |
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20:15.07 | MnemonicPunk | Sorry, my Pidgin died. |
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20:28.09 | MnemonicPunk | After adding "#define PATH_MAX 4096" to modsources.c it *seems* to compile |
20:33.47 | dcordes | nice |
20:34.21 | MnemonicPunk | Done. Hm. ^^ |
20:34.25 | MnemonicPunk | Let's see. |
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20:39.51 | dcordes | BabelO: how is the 1000h outdoors during daytime? can you see much? |
20:42.14 | BabelO | dcordes: what do you mean ? |
20:42.28 | BabelO | dcordes: with the sun on the screen ? |
20:43.03 | BabelO | it is like my Desktop Dell LCD at office, i can see the screen , not like newer LCD device that are like a glass |
20:43.07 | BabelO | or a mirror |
20:47.37 | dcordes | that's good |
20:49.07 | BabelO | dcordes: yes, view angle is good too from right to left, but minor from up to down |
20:52.41 | MnemonicPunk | I got the screen working! =) |
20:53.43 | BabelO | MnemonicPunk: latest hh kernel ? |
20:54.04 | MnemonicPunk | Should be. I just got it from CVS. |
20:54.53 | MnemonicPunk | Now it fails to mount the root fs but at least I got a step further. ^-^ |
20:55.35 | MnemonicPunk | Is it "root=/dev/mmcblk0p2" or "root=/mmcblk0p2"? |
20:57.44 | tmzt_ | /dev/mmcblk0p2 |
20:57.47 | MnemonicPunk | It says it can't find the root partition. o.o |
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21:01.44 | snake_schule | cr2 ? |
21:03.44 | dcordes | lol, people trying to autopilot their rc plane with beetles. funny part is, they are using wince http://diydrones.com/profiles/blog/show?id=705844%3ABlogPost%3A729 |
21:04.53 | snakefreak | rofl^^ |
21:06.11 | dcordes | very absurd |
21:08.45 | MnemonicPunk | o.O |
21:08.49 | MnemonicPunk | WinCE Beetles? |
21:10.31 | dcordes | MnemonicPunk: look in your hh.org tree there should be a machine type |
21:13.24 | MnemonicPunk | My current error is: VFS: Cannot open root device "mmcblk0ps" or unknown block (254, 2) |
21:13.42 | MnemonicPunk | I mean 0p2 |
21:13.42 | MnemonicPunk | xD |
21:15.15 | dcordes | it looks for the root filesystem on the second partition of the sd card |
21:15.18 | snakefreak | what you ar try to voot how is your card formated? |
21:15.41 | snakefreak | lol are and what |
21:15.41 | dcordes | (and doesn't find the second partition of the sd card) |
21:16.02 | snakefreak | i think same as decordes |
21:16.48 | snakefreak | how your card is partition (iert) |
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21:27.59 | MnemonicPunk1 | Internet died. =( Did I miss any suggestions for my problem= |
21:27.59 | MnemonicPunk1 | ? |
21:28.13 | snakefreak | cr2 do you know how to boot debian eabi on universal with rotfs as img file? i have created file. but jumping to kernel error. ( qtopia all in one harret exe without startup.txt) how can i boot a img rot fs with harret and startup.txt |
21:28.35 | snakefreak | 23:15 dcordes it looks for the root filesystem on the second partition of the sd card |
21:28.37 | snakefreak | 23:15 snakefreak what you ar try to voot how is your card formated? |
21:28.39 | snakefreak | 23:16 snakefreak lol are and what |
21:28.41 | snakefreak | 23:16 dcordes (and doesn't find the second partition of the sd card) |
21:28.43 | snakefreak | 23:16 snakefreak i think same as decordes |
21:28.45 | snakefreak | 23:17 snakefreak how your card is partition (iert) |
21:30.04 | tmzt_ | snakefreak: do you have a zImage? |
21:30.17 | MnemonicPunk | (23:17:07) MnemonicPunk: My card is formatted to p1: fat32 and p2: ext3 |
21:30.32 | MnemonicPunk | I'm trying to boot from second partition. |
21:30.43 | MnemonicPunk | If I use FAT instead, will that work without modules? |
21:30.47 | MnemonicPunk | Or ext2? |
21:31.02 | snakefreak | tmzt_ yes |
21:31.21 | tmzt_ | snakefreak: are you trying to boot the debian image or the qtopia? |
21:32.02 | snakefreak | Mnemonic you can try ext2. but i think it shopuld running with ext3 to. |
21:32.31 | MnemonicPunk | set CMDLINE "root=/dev/mmcblk0p2 console=tty0 rootdelay=1" |
21:32.35 | MnemonicPunk | Is that line okay? |
21:33.37 | snakefreak | tmzt i have maked a img rotfs with the qtopia exe from htcpxa i have renamed thy debian xxxx.tar.bz2 to qtopia tar.bz2 name and now i have a img^^ |
21:34.12 | snakefreak | Mnemonic i think yes. |
21:34.41 | MnemonicPunk | It says something about VFS being unable to open the block device. |
21:35.17 | tmzt_ | snakefreak: are you trying to use the initrd from the qtopia .exe to extract the .tar.bz2 then? |
21:35.56 | tmzt_ | snakefreak: if you have zImage (has to be eabi) and a .tar.bz2, you should be able to extract that to your second partition yourself (from linux) |
21:36.42 | snakefreak | tmzt_ yes i know but i have not a cardreader compatible to linux |
21:37.09 | snakefreak | and partition the card is not what i want. |
21:37.37 | snakefreak | i try to find best linux for me and so i try to run with img files |
21:37.45 | tmzt_ | that .tar.bz2 has to be extracted to a second partition with .exe bundles |
21:37.52 | MnemonicPunk | Can I boot Linux from a FAT32? |
21:38.23 | tmzt_ | sorry, the .exe extracts the .tar.bz2 on the fat partition to the second (ext2) partition |
21:39.13 | snakefreak | http://www.linuxtogo.org/~htcpxa/htcuniversal/images/Qtopia/ |
21:39.33 | snakefreak | this makes a img file on fat and run the os. |
21:39.49 | snakefreak | i whant to run eabi debian on the same way. |
21:39.55 | snakefreak | -h |
21:40.18 | tmzt_ | the file is actually an ext2 filesystem image then, not a .tar.bz2? |
21:41.12 | tmzt_ | are these instructions dcordes's? |
21:41.47 | tmzt_ | no, they're older |
21:42.32 | tmzt_ | if you want debian eabi on universal you might look at "Titchy Mobile" |
21:42.47 | tmzt_ | this kernel wouldn't support eabi |
21:45.21 | MnemonicPunk | wtf |
21:45.23 | snakefreak | snakefreak.pytalhost.de/linux.jpg |
21:45.34 | MnemonicPunk | I switched to EXT2 for the second partition. |
21:45.38 | MnemonicPunk | Still won't work. o.o |
21:46.21 | snakefreak | Mnemonic i dont have a other idea |
21:46.41 | snakefreak | http://snakefreak.pytalhost.de/linux.jpg |
21:47.22 | snakefreak | arg |
21:47.52 | tmzt_ | so you have .img on your fat partition now? |
21:48.20 | snakefreak | now i want to boot via harret but i dont know how to set rootdevice in startup.txt |
21:48.25 | snakefreak | yes |
21:52.26 | snakefreak | i think the qtopia-htcuni.exe |
21:53.16 | snakefreak | contains a startup.txt or so far. and i musst know what the command set as root device^^ |
21:56.55 | tmzt_ | dcordes: where's the oe sources for hh.org kernel, I know I've seen this before |
21:57.11 | tmzt_ | dcordes: or, what's the command line to boot from an image? |
21:59.55 | MnemonicPunk | I'd like to know that, too. xD |
22:04.56 | tmzt_ | snakefreak: did you try rootimage= ? |
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22:05.06 | snakefreak | no. |
22:05.17 | snakefreak | i will do wait secound |
22:05.44 | MnemonicPunk | One question: In the xconfig menu, what do the symbols left of the icons mean? |
22:05.55 | wasup | so how long till we get all the G1 stuff on our phones? :P |
22:06.13 | wasup | the phone looks soooo sick |
22:06.17 | MnemonicPunk | 3 days before it is released? ;p |
22:06.48 | wasup | someone will leak it... |
22:06.50 | MnemonicPunk | Most of the G1 stuff already exists, only without the Google branding. |
22:06.51 | wasup | hopefully |
22:07.10 | wasup | nah...but will it allow us to complete flash our phones? |
22:07.14 | wasup | to android |
22:07.53 | MnemonicPunk | "We are Google. You will be assimilated. Resistance is futile." |
22:08.45 | MnemonicPunk | Can I format my 2nd partition as FAT and boot from there? |
22:08.54 | MnemonicPunk | Or does Linux not support that? |
22:09.13 | wasup | hahaha...has anyone seen ali1234? |
22:09.32 | tmzt_ | it won't support it as a root filesystem, because no permissions or special files (devices) |
22:09.49 | MnemonicPunk | Okay. |
22:10.02 | cr2 | wasup: as long as we have the g1 source, it does not matter if it's sick of not. |
22:10.23 | MnemonicPunk | So is there a way to compile the kernel with ext2/ext3 support compiled in and not as modules? |
22:10.44 | tmzt_ | snakefreak: try that, also try rootdevice=/dev/mmcblkp2 root=<image> |
22:11.06 | cr2 | Kevin2: are you somewhere around ? |
22:11.19 | wasup | ok... so we will never be able to say goodbye to windows mobile? |
22:11.20 | snakefreak | first not run |
22:11.20 | tmzt_ | you can change .config, or use menuconfig, xconfig, qconfig to change the filesystem to Y instead of M |
22:11.56 | snakefreak | error: please append a correct "root=" boot option |
22:12.19 | tmzt_ | snakefreak: do you have "set KERNEL" "set CMDLINE" lines? |
22:12.30 | MnemonicPunk | Y instead of M? |
22:12.35 | tmzt_ | yes |
22:13.06 | MnemonicPunk | M means module? |
22:13.18 | tmzt_ | yes |
22:13.23 | snakefreak | set kernel "zImage" |
22:13.23 | snakefreak | set mtype "855" |
22:13.23 | snakefreak | set cmdline "root=qtopia.linux.img rw console=tty0 rootdelay=5 fbcon=rotate:1" |
22:13.23 | snakefreak | boot2 |
22:13.40 | MnemonicPunk | In xconfig terms... what is the triangle and what is the dot? xD |
22:13.46 | tmzt_ | add rootdevice=/dev/mmcblk0p2 to cmdline |
22:14.21 | tmzt_ | MnemonicPunk: don't know, just look for EXT2 in .config and see if its =y |
22:14.34 | MnemonicPunk | Okay. |
22:14.49 | wasup | so now one has seen ali1234? how about ginge? |
22:17.52 | tmzt_ | snakefreak: what kernel are you using again? |
22:21.48 | snakefreak | moment |
22:24.18 | tmzt_ | root=/dev/loop looproot=/dev/mmcblk0p2:/image.img |
22:25.24 | tmzt_ | that's from initramfs-module-bootmenu in oe git |
22:26.04 | snakefreak | i try wait secound |
22:26.07 | snakefreak | -u |
22:30.27 | wasup | so....could anyone tell me why android won't boot on my phone anymore? |
22:30.35 | wasup | failed to mount sd card |
22:30.36 | snakefreak | VFS: cannot open root device "loop" |
22:30.51 | tmzt_ | you have /dev/loop? |
22:31.39 | snakefreak | in the img file? |
22:31.48 | tmzt_ | you're kernel might not use that boot loader then |
22:31.52 | tmzt_ | no, on the cmdline |
22:32.45 | snakefreak | yes |
22:33.08 | tmzt_ | can you find another handhelds zImage for universal? |
22:34.33 | snakefreak | its not from hh.org |
22:35.04 | snakefreak | its from : http://wiki.neilandtheresa.co.uk/Titchy_Linux/Installing_Debian |
22:35.45 | tmzt_ | then you might need an initramfs to mount a image as root |
22:36.21 | NetRipper | cr2, didn't need to kill any application to make the framebuffer work... i just tried putting fb_clear() above take_control() (in linboot.cpp) and adding a sleep of a second, this makes it clear the screen... it just hangs on the take_control() though |
22:37.26 | snakefreak | anyone knows how is the minimum card size for debianon universal? does mmc work too? |
22:37.45 | NetRipper | cr2, added raphael and a MSM7201A arch, and trying to add a vga font as well to make it more readable |
22:38.39 | dcordes | NetRipper: you can boot raph? |
22:38.43 | NetRipper | no |
22:38.50 | tmzt_ | snakefreak: did you get a console on that qtopialinux.exe, and how big is your memory card? |
22:39.03 | NetRipper | it hangs after go go go, on the take_control() |
22:39.09 | NetRipper | (it disables interrupts there) |
22:39.51 | tmzt_ | dcordes: is there a zImage and console-image initrd for uni? |
22:39.52 | dcordes | NetRipper: did you see the diamond threat where some people detail their thoughts on the boot problem? |
22:40.08 | snakefreak | console via usb network with the pc? i havent tried because i dont know how. my card has 4gb is not a sdhc. |
22:40.13 | NetRipper | dcordes, [PRJ][OS]Linux and Android on HTC Diamond |
22:40.17 | NetRipper | dcordes, that one? |
22:40.19 | dcordes | tmzt_: I only know the pxa builds from linuxotog.org/~htcpxa |
22:40.22 | dcordes | NetRipper: I thinks o |
22:40.55 | NetRipper | dcordes, yes and i've responded a few times there too, im subscribed to it, so just keeping an eye in case something interesting pops up |
22:41.10 | dcordes | ok |
22:41.24 | snakefreak | dcordes |
22:41.35 | snakefreak | how is the image booted? |
22:41.38 | tmzt_ | you can try the Titchy zImage and an installer image from ftp.us.debian.org/debian for one of the old ipaqs |
22:41.50 | dcordes | snakefreak: what image on which device? |
22:42.02 | snakefreak | qtopia-htcuniversal. exe is a harret + startup.txt + zimage right? |
22:42.40 | dcordes | snakefreak: probably. there should be some haret documentation detailing the auto thing |
22:42.43 | tmzt_ | dcordes: if I understand it right, snakefreak is trying to install debian eabi on uni without a linux-compatible card reader |
22:42.49 | dcordes | snakefreak: I never tried it myself |
22:43.23 | dcordes | snakefreak: oh that's not a good idea. get a 5⬠card reader at saturn/media markt/aldi |
22:43.40 | snakefreak | hehe^^ |
22:45.57 | snakefreak | dcordes es ist aber dennoch interresant wie es funktioniert. |
22:46.25 | snakefreak | but its intressting how it works to boot an img file. |
22:47.56 | MnemonicPunk | Could you add that to the wiki= |
22:47.57 | MnemonicPunk | ? |
22:48.15 | dcordes | ^^ |
22:50.53 | MnemonicPunk | Hm. I still can't get it to recognize its own second partition. Why can that happen? |
22:52.30 | dcordes | the SD driver is not built in, but a module or is bogus, you use a filesystem with a driver not kernel built in, .. |
22:53.16 | snakefreak | looked the qtopia loader exe in hex editor. |
22:53.22 | snakefreak | and found this: |
22:53.24 | snakefreak | #set CMDLINE "psplash=true console=tty0 fbcon=rotate:1" |
22:53.24 | snakefreak | set CMDLINE "psplash=true installprefix=qtopia.linux console=tty0 fbcon=rotate:1" |
22:53.24 | snakefreak | ramboot |
22:56.27 | snakefreak | but i think thats the part where the image is created |
22:56.59 | tmzt_ | snakefreak: the only suggestion I can give you is to do the install manually from an initrd console image |
22:58.05 | tmzt_ | the image is created after linux boots, not by the .exe |
22:59.05 | snakefreak | yes i think thats the best way. but now iam intrested in image boot. laughting |
22:59.14 | snakefreak | hm ok i try the cmdline i found in the exe |
23:02.01 | snakefreak | ah now it comes clear. harret --> zimage ----> image. so it looks for me in the qtopia loader.exe |
23:03.14 | snakefreak | and my debian zimage is not captable to boot an *.img or searching the root on the wrong place |
23:06.13 | NetRipper | cr2, ignore my last statement, it's not hanging at take_control(), it's hanging at the "Turning off MMU..." message, after which the tampoline is executed |
23:06.44 | snakefreak | who has made the exe? kevin2 right? |
23:06.45 | NetRipper | for some reason it needs a Sleep() before the fb_print messages are actually printed to display |
23:08.31 | dcordes | NetRipper: did you think about the approach swetland suggested (can be found in the above mentioned thread) |
23:09.04 | cr2 | NetRipper: have you modified haret already ? |
23:09.12 | NetRipper | cr2, yes i have |
23:09.12 | cr2 | NetRipper: i'm trying to recompile cegcc |
23:09.15 | NetRipper | dcordes, let me look |
23:09.32 | NetRipper | cr2, you want a diff? |
23:09.33 | cr2 | NetRipper: ok, so can you trace the 4 gpio banks ? |
23:09.43 | cr2 | no, i don't have the compiler |
23:09.56 | cr2 | imho, youd send the diff to Kevin2 and to the haret ML |
23:10.17 | NetRipper | well it has no gpios or irqs filled in yet |
23:10.43 | NetRipper | don't know how to enter those values |
23:11.20 | cr2 | it's the same as on 7200 |
23:11.20 | cr2 | for the first 4 banks |
23:11.46 | cr2 | you dont need to compile them in, but then you'd execute these commands in some other way |
23:12.43 | NetRipper | the addlist gpios commands? |
23:14.59 | NetRipper | cr2, how do i trace the gpio banks? |
23:15.22 | cr2 | watch gpios N |
23:15.24 | NetRipper | (phone is booting in the meanwhile) |
23:15.35 | cr2 | yes, the addlist first |
23:16.13 | cr2 | you can just copy the 7500 code |
23:16.30 | cr2 | i#ll add bank5 later |
23:17.08 | NetRipper | cr2, ok, you want the output of that? |
23:17.36 | cr2 | do you run ./console ? |
23:17.53 | NetRipper | telnetted to haret |
23:18.28 | cr2 | run console, it will reduce the amount of junk |
23:18.42 | NetRipper | what's console? |
23:18.43 | cr2 | then you can compare http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Raphael_GPIO |
23:18.49 | cr2 | haretconsole/ |
23:19.42 | NetRipper | k |
23:19.48 | NetRipper | then erm |
23:20.05 | NetRipper | i have my phone connected to my windows |
23:20.06 | NetRipper | lol |
23:20.11 | NetRipper | no python here |
23:21.01 | cr2 | ok |
23:21.28 | NetRipper | ah ok |
23:21.36 | NetRipper | luckly my linux recognizes the rn dis |
23:21.46 | cr2 | i'm recompiling gcc |
23:23.00 | NetRipper | arf bug on my ubuntu, it loses its ip when connected to rndis |
23:23.15 | tmzt_ | disable NetworkManager |
23:23.19 | NetRipper | anyway i have to go in a few moments |
23:23.23 | NetRipper | ok |
23:23.24 | tmzt_ | then dhclient eth0/ |
23:23.28 | tmzt_ | or whatever |
23:30.08 | NetRipper | disabling networkmanager helped, but still problem connecting |
23:30.15 | NetRipper | just starting my laptop |
23:30.18 | NetRipper | worked on there |
23:47.29 | dcordes | mysterious people are collecting money for the kaiser kernel in the xda forums |
23:48.15 | NetRipper | cr2, so, i used console now, output seems same as using telnet though |
23:48.37 | NetRipper | oh thats not true |
23:48.39 | NetRipper | its a bit more verbose |
23:56.05 | Kevin2 | cr2: still around? |
23:57.43 | NetRipper | cr2, http://www.netripper.nl/raphael/ |
23:57.45 | NetRipper | hey Kevin2 |
23:58.15 | NetRipper | Kevin2, fyi, im playing a bit with haret code to add msm7201a support |
23:58.41 | NetRipper | on the link above i just put a cvs diff so far... still contains crap and test code |
23:59.37 | NetRipper | not a proper diff i see |