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03:29.08 | shaya | anyone here have a sprint mogul? |
03:59.25 | tmzt_ | titan, what do you want to know? |
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06:57.28 | marajin | morning peeps |
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07:44.57 | marajin | 'lo zoolooc |
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07:45.08 | zoolooc | hi marajin |
07:45.35 | marajin | how goes? |
07:46.30 | zoolooc | working, have to do some stupid paperwork instead of coding, for a meeting in an hour... |
07:47.29 | zoolooc | otherwise, keeping showing up here and chek if some sd issues have been magically solved... have they ;) ? |
07:47.38 | marajin | heh |
07:47.42 | marajin | not that I know of |
07:47.43 | marajin | sorry |
07:48.06 | marajin | is playing with getting linux onto a usbkey and booting it on his new umpc so that vista will stop being horribly laggy when he tries to do more than run word |
07:48.57 | zoolooc | hehe, good luck, and when it all plays nice, I'm sure you'll ditch vista away completely... |
07:49.03 | marajin | nah |
07:49.05 | marajin | need it for work |
07:49.08 | marajin | but still |
07:49.25 | marajin | ali1234 was boggled that the system ran vista with aero enabled at all :P |
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09:17.58 | kedar | hi all :) any news with boot on Diamond or TouchPro ? |
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09:36.46 | marajin | 'lo ginge |
09:36.58 | ginge | good morning! |
09:37.06 | marajin | something like that |
09:37.19 | marajin | is swearing profusely to himself at the moment about bloody people at work. |
09:37.30 | ginge | and how is Mr Marajin this morning? |
09:37.39 | ginge | its like that eh :) |
09:37.48 | marajin | they're nagging me about the phone not working |
09:37.52 | marajin | Not. My. Problem |
09:37.58 | marajin | Not. My. Job. |
09:38.03 | marajin | Not even something I set up |
09:38.24 | marajin | it was working but then you did something with wires!" |
09:38.35 | marajin | Network wires yellow, phone wires red. no movey red wires. |
09:39.04 | marajin | you bastards however rearranged a bunch of network devices without bothering to mention to me then phone me go up and go 'printers don't work..' |
09:40.24 | ginge | they never do |
09:41.03 | marajin | and then when I asked where the spare cables box was .. |
09:41.08 | marajin | can you guess? |
09:41.21 | ginge | no idea |
09:41.22 | ginge | ;) |
09:41.28 | marajin | at her mother and father-in-laws house |
09:41.49 | ginge | um.... yeah. makes sense |
09:42.19 | marajin | puts on some music and bangs his head along, 'Exterminate! Annihilate! Destroy!' |
09:43.10 | ginge | O.o |
09:43.17 | marajin | meh |
09:43.24 | marajin | I get annoyed when tards break things then blame me :p |
09:43.45 | ginge | I know what you mean. You had the right attitude there.... meh |
09:44.10 | ginge | it is the path of sanity |
09:45.08 | marajin | queues up 'Zustoeren' |
09:45.46 | marajin | My temper is curbed however by the glory of seeing linux boot correctly on my new umpc |
09:45.49 | marajin | yaaay |
09:46.16 | marajin | sound, touchscreen, graphics and usb definitely working thusfar |
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09:59.37 | marajin | sweet, wired networking works |
09:59.59 | marajin | ginge: off hand d'ya know what ubuntu uses to calibrate ts's generally? |
10:01.49 | ginge | not offhand, but I am guessing it will be evtouch based |
10:03.55 | marajin | yeah |
10:04.13 | marajin | I can't find any mention of the ts in any logs or anything yet it does definitely work in X |
10:04.16 | marajin | wiggy |
10:04.21 | marajin | just badly miscalibrated |
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10:06.09 | marajin | ginge: xorg-input-evtouch isn't even installed.. |
10:06.37 | ginge | um? /dev/input? |
10:07.36 | marajin | I don't see much in there that's specific to the TS, more to do with the trackpad. |
10:07.48 | marajin | The device is silly, it has a nipple, track pad and ts |
10:07.56 | ginge | awesome. I love the nipple |
10:08.01 | ginge | Best input device ever |
10:08.08 | ginge | I wish more devices had them |
10:08.10 | marajin | all three register in X but only the synaptics tp is technically configured.. |
10:08.24 | marajin | also it blaaaazes under linux compared to vista |
10:10.08 | marajin | ginge: Oh and nicely, it has an SD reader that is _SDHC Compat_ |
10:10.28 | marajin | and CF slot just for.. ya know, why not? |
10:10.47 | ginge | what the hell is this magical device |
10:12.52 | marajin | haha |
10:12.58 | marajin | Vye S37 |
10:13.21 | marajin | tad more expensive than a eee or something but kinda nicer IMHO |
10:13.41 | marajin | the extended battery as standard for example appealed to me. |
10:13.58 | marajin | as did the 120 gig drive and the fact it can technically run vista even with aero enabled is a bit freaky |
10:15.14 | ginge | what a sweet little thing |
10:15.24 | marajin | I like it |
10:15.44 | ginge | how much?!? |
10:15.47 | marajin | 450 |
10:16.05 | ginge | amazon says £829 are there a few? |
10:16.27 | marajin | no, there's just a nutter in bromley cross selling them for 449.95 |
10:16.52 | marajin | well there's the 37 and 37B |
10:17.02 | marajin | the B is 800mhz the 37 is 600 |
10:17.06 | marajin | otherwise, not much between them |
10:17.37 | marajin | the B may ship with 2GB of ram as standard I think |
10:22.33 | marajin | ginge: He has 5 left according to his ebay listing |
10:22.58 | ginge | I have too many computers as it is :) |
10:23.03 | marajin | haha |
10:23.14 | marajin | sell the eee? ;) |
10:23.16 | ginge | you know its bad when family members keep asking if you have a spare one, and you give them one from the pile :) |
10:23.26 | marajin | yeah I get that |
10:23.29 | ginge | the eee broke. damn flimsy shite |
10:23.33 | marajin | but I wanted a portable since my laptop borked |
10:37.13 | ellisway | looks like a nice umpc marajin |
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10:49.43 | marajin | yeah |
10:49.43 | marajin | hmm |
10:50.07 | marajin | TS looks much more calibrated now but the pointer movement is jumping to very major subdivisions of the screen |
10:50.49 | marajin | like.. it detects the corners of the screen just fine but the pointer is jumping between points in a grid of about 5x5 from the looks of it |
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12:48.40 | LanceHaig | hey everyone |
12:49.10 | LanceHaig | just recieved my replacement Kaiser_II and need to jknow which is the best rom that is uk capable to run? |
13:17.13 | marajin | LanceHaig: what on earth is a Kaiser 2? |
13:17.27 | marajin | LanceHaig: you mean TyTn II/Kaiser? |
13:17.39 | LanceHaig | Magorium, I do :-) |
13:17.59 | LanceHaig | I have been busy trying to get it ready for romming |
13:18.04 | LanceHaig | so I was misguided |
13:18.07 | LanceHaig | sorry |
13:18.17 | marajin | LanceHaig: Well, L26's diamond roms have been good to me on my O2 one =) |
13:19.35 | marajin | but it's a bit of trial and error to see what you like and what seems relatively bug free. |
13:20.02 | oneguynick | i still have not been able to flash mine |
13:20.10 | oneguynick | i have attempted softspl, hardspl |
13:20.11 | oneguynick | nothing |
13:20.12 | marajin | dcordes still swears by Dutty's Diamond V1 but I found it nice but too buggy for regular use |
13:20.15 | oneguynick | just hangs and locks out |
13:20.23 | marajin | oneguynick: what happens when you run kaiser sspl? |
13:20.27 | marajin | white screen? |
13:20.36 | oneguynick | no, colored bars and then USB at the bottom |
13:20.41 | marajin | right |
13:20.48 | marajin | so you get into the SPL fine |
13:20.52 | oneguynick | the program runs for about 2 minutes...then spits back that it cannot communicate |
13:20.55 | oneguynick | yes |
13:21.07 | marajin | ah when you're flashing it fails after a short period... dodgy usb connection? |
13:21.10 | LanceHaig | oneguynick, I get the same issue |
13:21.15 | LanceHaig | and their is a fix |
13:21.24 | oneguynick | marajin: i am using vmware fusion so it maybe on my end |
13:21.27 | LanceHaig | the white screen fix |
13:21.32 | oneguynick | but i heard vmware wasnt an issue for some |
13:21.41 | oneguynick | i just only have mac/bsd/linux box in the house, no windows |
13:21.50 | marajin | Iunno, I never flashed from vmware fusion |
13:21.56 | marajin | I have done from vista and XP usually |
13:22.02 | marajin | you could card flash the kaiser I think? |
13:22.20 | LanceHaig | marajin, you can |
13:22.23 | oneguynick | marajin: card flash off SD? |
13:22.41 | LanceHaig | do you guys think sleuth will be ok? |
13:22.45 | marajin | oneguynick: yep. or just keep hoping and praying that we get linux to behave with SD and then wootwoot linux kaiser is pretty ready to go |
13:23.00 | LanceHaig | it was the last one I used but I have not run any of the linux roms with that one yet |
13:23.03 | oneguynick | yeah that is the only reason i bought the device was the hard work you guys have been doing |
13:23.12 | oneguynick | i booted android last week |
13:23.20 | marajin | heh :) |
13:23.24 | oneguynick | fricken awesome, just need a terminal and VI and i will be in heaven |
13:23.37 | marajin | it's always nice watching a new device finally boot into a working linux isn't it? |
13:25.12 | oneguynick | i buy devices just to watch it |
13:25.18 | marajin | haha |
13:25.25 | marajin | ah the peak of geekdom ;) |
13:25.36 | oneguynick | the DS, dreamcast, gamecube, PSP, playstation, tomtom |
13:25.43 | oneguynick | i am a linux boot whore |
13:25.48 | marajin | heh |
13:25.50 | oneguynick | cross compiling makes me giggle |
13:25.53 | marajin | no wii? ;) |
13:26.04 | marajin | they have a native booting wii linux kernel now I tihnk |
13:26.09 | oneguynick | i would love to try a wii but cant find one and stay home long enough to hack |
13:26.09 | marajin | *think |
13:26.17 | Miek | gp2x! |
13:26.36 | marajin | Miek: I have a gp2x yeah. it was cute but some hardware design flaws were always a bit irritating |
13:26.56 | oneguynick | Miek: had one but the game pad feel was horrible |
13:26.58 | oneguynick | cut your thumb |
13:27.17 | marajin | but my new UMPC is booting linux happily.. I just have to fix the touchscreen and get wifi to live and.. woo |
13:27.36 | oneguynick | marajin: i really want one of those gigabyte m528 MID |
13:27.41 | oneguynick | what one did you buy? |
13:27.44 | marajin | I should check the SD card reader works too.. it's SDHC compat which made me happy |
13:27.49 | marajin | Vye s37 |
13:27.56 | marajin | A110 based |
13:28.02 | marajin | gig of ram, 120 drive, bluetooth, wifi.. |
13:28.11 | marajin | and amusingly.. touchpad, nipple mouse AND touchscreen |
13:28.19 | marajin | and joystick/d-pad.. |
13:28.27 | marajin | and keyboard |
13:28.36 | marajin | nice to have plenty of input :P |
13:29.30 | marajin | they sound silly expensive (usually listed over 600 to 800 a pop) but I got it for 450 |
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13:51.06 | marajin | interesting |
13:51.11 | marajin | I think wifi is working :) |
13:51.21 | oneguynick | ndiswrapper? |
13:51.25 | oneguynick | what card does it have? |
13:51.27 | marajin | native |
13:51.31 | marajin | rt73usb |
13:51.59 | oneguynick | even better |
13:59.41 | marajin | yep |
13:59.56 | marajin | working with encryption enabled now, all's good it seems |
14:00.18 | marajin | time to write some udev rules to stop /dev/input/eventx switching on me |
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14:21.04 | marajin | ginge: wb |
14:28.09 | marajin | ginge: <brian_blessed> WIFI'S ALIIIIIIVE! </brian_blessed> <disclaimed_for_the_easily_overexcited> talking about my UMPC, not the kaiser </disclaimer_for_the_easily_overexcited> |
14:28.34 | ginge | lol |
14:28.54 | ginge | just got the project signed off. Flying chairs will stop now :) |
14:29.17 | marajin | aww.. now how will we fly to mars to found our geek commune? |
14:30.06 | ginge | boggles |
14:33.12 | marajin | you saying you don't wanna? |
14:34.26 | marajin | schweet... SDHC reader works flawlessly under linux too, no more buggering about with dodgy + slow cardexport/wm5torage/etc. |
14:41.50 | ginge | naa screw that, I want my flying car |
14:42.12 | marajin | hmm |
14:42.52 | marajin | ginge: any clue why my TS would work and be seemingly to be calibrated but the pointer snaps to points in about a 5x5 grid across the screen? |
14:43.28 | ginge | not off the top of my head. Did you figure out what sort of ts driver it uses? |
14:43.36 | marajin | evtouch seems happy |
14:43.46 | marajin | it is using evdev and whatnot in the kernel |
14:44.04 | ginge | but not in x? |
14:44.08 | marajin | I've set up all the config in xorg.conf even so it's pretty much calibrated |
14:44.15 | marajin | and x is set to evtouch yeah |
14:45.49 | ginge | yeah sounds like you need to calibrate it |
14:45.50 | ginge | http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-644258.html |
14:45.56 | ginge | has some interesting info |
14:45.59 | marajin | it's calibrated mate |
14:46.10 | ginge | calibrated to a 5x5 grid :) |
14:46.24 | marajin | yeah but it's not :p |
14:46.48 | marajin | it's sensing where it's touched correctly AFAIK but scaling it to a 5x5 grid |
14:48.22 | ginge | odd-o |
14:50.46 | marajin | so if I tap the top-left, the cursor stays top left till I pass half an inch along the top then it'll snap to 1 inch along the top line and so on |
14:51.00 | marajin | it snaps to the nearest inch spaced grid point |
14:51.27 | marajin | which is bizzare because if I don't config it and x obviously auto detects it.. then it is smooth moving but totally uncalibrated |
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15:56.40 | Marex | Alex[sp3dev]: hi, late response, Im slightly busy with uni now ... well, udc should work and pcmcia probably too |
15:56.51 | Marex | opie - ask |miska| at #hackndev |
15:58.51 | Alex[sp3dev] | on my asus, udc prints debug messages and works with 2.6.26, but it reacts in no way in newer kernels.. that's sad.. hopefully it will be fixed once.. at least now i have disassembled wince dlls and trying to init gsm and bluetooth |
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16:32.18 | marajin | ginge: yey, fixed my touchscreen |
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16:50.29 | dcordes | Alex[sp3dev]: hey what asus do you have? smartphone? |
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16:51.03 | Alex[sp3dev] | asus p525.. more like pda.. given the fact it has touchscreen and pocket pc os |
16:51.33 | dcordes | that's an old one, isn't it? |
16:52.29 | Alex[sp3dev] | maybe, but still a good thing. at least, all that hacking stuff is very interesting and gives experience.. and really there is no device on the market that'd be a nice replacement |
16:52.29 | dcordes | 0906 |
16:53.04 | dcordes | why not, what does the p525 have what others don't? |
16:53.15 | dcordes | did you look at the newer asus smartphones? |
16:54.40 | Alex[sp3dev] | firstly i want to complete our linux porting to it. and newer asuses.. the only difference is vga screen (by default in qvga,you need to patch lcd driver) and gps (that's of course nice). actually i want sth with wvga screen and pxa cpu.. or msm.. waiting for se xperia |
16:56.17 | dcordes | 3 line keyboard |
16:56.42 | Alex[sp3dev] | sorry? |
16:56.50 | dcordes | xperia has a 3line keyboard. |
16:57.08 | dcordes | not good for bash :) |
16:57.28 | dcordes | oh, sorry. 4 |
16:57.30 | Alex[sp3dev] | much better than 9-way phone keypad) |
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16:58.06 | dcordes | I take it back, actually the xperia keyboard looks quite nice |
16:58.37 | dcordes | they tried to make it resemble normal desktop or notebook keyboard |
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16:59.22 | dcordes | it will soon be released no? |
16:59.23 | Alex[sp3dev] | actually i have loox 520 as well,but it's dead. shit.. i have desoldered cpu, and jtag is not routed to any pcb points((.. and my friend at a service centre says they've sold out all replacement flashes |
16:59.45 | dcordes | oh that's a pity |
16:59.58 | Alex[sp3dev] | yeah, i dunno what to do with it |
17:00.02 | dcordes | BabelO and so were working on the loox |
17:00.11 | dcordes | I think. sell it on ebay? |
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17:02.18 | Alex[sp3dev] | ebay is not a thing in russia(. i think it would be cool to buy a new mobo from a friend or go to moscow and buy another used pda.. but i wanna fix my one.. i wish i had a g4 uni... then i'd swap flashes and flash it via jtag in uni.. certainly i won't do such crazy thing with my asus)) |
17:05.47 | dcordes | Alex[sp3dev]: can you buy such things like pdas well on moscow's streets? |
17:07.26 | Alex[sp3dev] | yes, why not? you can buy them in shops or from used stuff resellers (tell the truth, you shouldn't buy USED phones unless you can change IMEI (many phones are stolen, and you may be caught by police)) |
17:08.04 | dcordes | he one guy from czech republic had the same with a uni |
17:08.20 | Alex[sp3dev] | what the same? |
17:08.48 | dcordes | he bought a 'used' uni in some used stuff shop and the police knocked on his door a few days later |
17:09.23 | Alex[sp3dev] | that really sucks.. not the police but the pickpockets |
17:09.45 | dcordes | yea |
17:09.46 | Alex[sp3dev] | but that is about phones |
17:09.53 | Alex[sp3dev] | with pdas you don't worry |
17:10.12 | dcordes | yea not possible to get caught |
17:10.22 | dcordes | but still some people don't like to use stolen stuff |
17:10.32 | dcordes | I have to go, bye |
17:11.01 | Alex[sp3dev] | bye, good luck) |
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17:32.22 | marajin | 'lo nail |
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17:48.50 | NAiL | morning |
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18:06.29 | marajin | NAiL: how's it going? |
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18:21.18 | oneguynick | anyone know if .9 SDK has been on the kaiser yet? |
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19:01.59 | marajin | oneguynick: We don't care enough to make an initrd and the sd bug stops it being usable but technically the vogue SD version would boot on the kaiser otherwise |
19:03.00 | oneguynick | i tried the latest |
19:03.03 | oneguynick | it just kernel dumps |
19:03.12 | marajin | that's the SD driver bug yeah |
19:04.33 | oneguynick | so install in ROM |
19:05.11 | marajin | we don't have nand access |
19:05.50 | oneguynick | hmmmm so then where should I put it? |
19:06.08 | marajin | on the sd, I'm saying IF the sd bug was fixed, the vogue version would work |
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19:07.10 | oneguynick | ahhh thanks marajin |
19:07.32 | oneguynick | the old version worked |
19:07.38 | oneguynick | just not his new one based on .9 |
19:07.53 | marajin | the m5 release is an initrd, it's loaded entirely into RAM |
19:23.44 | ALoGeNo | hey guys wasup :) |
19:23.56 | marajin | 'lo ALoGeNo |
19:24.46 | ALoGeNo | im testing with debian in my uni, and im without X, i must install that by inet? or i must build some image with all or something? |
19:26.17 | ALoGeNo | nobody Knows? |
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19:27.40 | ALoGeNo | in any case i'll look in the debian forum hehe.. |
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20:11.36 | marajin | 'lo ali1234 |
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20:12.58 | tmzt_ | ALoGeNo: are you using debian or debian armel? |
20:16.47 | ALoGeNo | debian armel |
20:17.15 | ALoGeNo | well right now i dunno i'll must to see that.. |
20:17.51 | ALoGeNo | why tmzt_ ? |
20:18.07 | ALoGeNo | isnt the same? |
20:18.25 | tmzt_ | I am working on building a xfbdev package for armel, and since you have pxa (armv5) you can't use the openembedded or angstrom one |
20:19.05 | ALoGeNo | mmm... |
20:19.20 | ALoGeNo | i have the htc universal.. |
20:19.30 | ALoGeNo | isnt armel7? o 9? |
20:21.13 | ALoGeNo | im just beginning :) |
20:25.04 | marajin | hmm, did they ever make touchflo type interfaces for windows xp/vista tablet stuff? |
20:26.30 | ALoGeNo | I have read of people who use icewm in their uni, tmzt_ |
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20:31.25 | dcordes | tmzt_: what's the problem with armv5 in OE? |
20:35.29 | tmzt_ | nothing that I know of, but it would have to be setup with the right machine to build it |
20:35.47 | tmzt_ | I meant the same package as for msm's, which are armv6 |
20:37.05 | dcordes | I can make you one. did you look in the repo? |
20:37.34 | dcordes | which libc do you need? |
20:37.39 | dcordes | glibc right? |
20:37.46 | dcordes | http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/repo/?action=details&pnm=xserver-kdrive-fbdev |
20:37.53 | dcordes | http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/feeds/2008/ipk/glibc/armv5te/base/xserver-kdrive-fbdev_1.4.0.90-r1_armv5te.ipk |
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20:45.35 | tetsuo\0 | what is that debian armel - EABI stuff? |
20:48.57 | tetsuo\0 | is that useful on a universal? |
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21:44.44 | dcordes_ | tmzt__: did you get what you were looking for? |
21:44.53 | dcordes_ | I can also make you a custom image |
21:44.58 | dcordes_ | s/image/ipk/ |
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21:50.37 | dcordes | isp terror |
21:52.26 | tcccp | o.O |
21:53.53 | marajin | dcordes: ah c'mon, it's just a freedom fighter ;) |
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22:03.59 | herriojr | hey, does anyone have the proper vogue keymappings for 0.9 as well as keymapping fixes for the software keyboard |
22:04.00 | herriojr | ? |
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22:34.15 | dcordes | herriojr: maybe ask on the xda forum. there's a channel where the vogue linux people frequent, including dzo. |
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22:37.49 | dcordes | herriojr: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=382265 |
22:37.57 | dcordes | herriojr: btw, did you look into the kaiser sd driver? |
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22:49.52 | dcordes | herriojr: still around? |
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23:21.51 | herriojr | yeah, I'm still here |
23:22.08 | herriojr | no, I had to get this stuff first |
23:22.19 | herriojr | I now finally have time to look into the sd driver :) |
23:28.21 | herriojr | did your repository get setup with the current code? |
23:30.14 | dcordes | hides |
23:30.14 | dcordes | no |
23:30.59 | dcordes | I will give it another go tomorrow |
23:31.15 | dcordes | marajin: do you know which one is ginge's latest kaiser *.25 diff? |
23:37.25 | tmzt__ | great, I have my debian package now though |
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23:40.45 | marajin | dcordes: no |
23:42.12 | dcordes | ok, good night |
23:42.28 | tmzt__ | dcordes: did you get fso working (not phone)? |
23:43.17 | dcordes | tmzt__: fso boots well off sd, but I can't access the /dev/smd? in it |
23:44.37 | tmzt__ | have you tried mknod with the major from /proc/devices? |
23:45.07 | dcordes | herriojr: I found a kind of recent patch by ginge. this might his latest code. http://www.headfuzz.co.uk/files/android/git-diff-110808-b.diff it is against branch android-msm-2.6.25 on git.android.com |
23:45.27 | dcordes | herriojr: it should work with the current revision present there, since there have been no recent changes in android-msm-2.6.25 |
23:45.28 | tmzt__ | aug 11? |
23:45.45 | dcordes | yea |
23:46.03 | dcordes | maybe he has new sd code locally, but I think he didn't upload a new diff |
23:46.48 | dcordes | tmzt__: I will try creating the smd nodes manually tomorrow |
23:47.10 | dcordes | tmzt__: did you get the links to angstrom repo? |
23:47.17 | tmzt__ | yes |
23:47.49 | dcordes | did it help? |
23:48.23 | tmzt__ | just got it |
23:48.33 | tmzt__ | I have a debian package now, and it works |
23:48.43 | dcordes | great, already tried fso? |
23:49.29 | tmzt__ | yes, it works if frameworkd is running |
23:49.46 | tmzt__ | I changed the lines at the top to make it fit |
23:50.04 | dcordes | so you can dial with the external modem? which lines? |
23:50.50 | tmzt__ | no, I don't have a connection to the modem, I don't have a serial cable, usb doesn't work, and I can't get cf bluetooth (serial_cs) working either |
23:51.10 | tmzt__ | fake modem in frameworkd works |
23:51.35 | tmzt__ | the WIDTH and HEIGHT at the top of /usr/bin/zhone |
23:51.43 | dcordes | ok that's great, I hope I can make the communication work on kaiser tomorrow |
23:51.46 | dcordes | g2g now, bye |
23:51.49 | tmzt__ | ok |