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01:45.23 | nighthawk08 | dcordes_: are you there? |
02:15.17 | tmzt | dcordes: ping? |
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03:49.33 | dcordes_ | tmzt: back |
03:49.43 | dcordes_ | didn't add the debugging yet |
03:53.02 | dcordes_ | tmzt: here is the strace http://rafb.net/p/3mdNon56.html |
03:57.44 | tmzt | hey |
03:59.30 | dcordes_ | I'm in the devshell now, looking into how to add the prints |
04:04.09 | tmzt | paste the tslib.c under hw |
04:09.11 | tmzt | do you have hal and dbus running when you started X? |
04:09.38 | dcordes_ | not sure |
04:09.48 | dcordes_ | are you referring to the hal error from Xfbdev? |
04:09.53 | tmzt | try dbus-launch Xfbdev -dumb -softCursor |
04:10.02 | tmzt | yes |
04:10.13 | tmzt | it tries to contact dbus over a socket and fails |
04:10.13 | dcordes_ | the null null thing |
04:10.18 | dcordes_ | there is only libhal in the image |
04:10.21 | dcordes_ | is that all we need? |
04:10.24 | tmzt | no, before that |
04:10.31 | tmzt | hal won't work without dbus |
04:10.58 | tmzt | libdbus is there |
04:11.03 | tmzt | do you have hald? |
04:11.17 | dcordes_ | where should that be located? |
04:12.06 | dcordes_ | ./usr/lib/libdbus-glib-1.so.2 |
04:12.17 | dcordes_ | ./usr/lib/libdbus-glib-1.so.2.1.0 |
04:12.29 | dcordes_ | ./usr/lib/libdbus-1.so.3 |
04:12.29 | dcordes_ | ./usr/lib/libdbus-1.so.3.4.0 |
04:12.39 | dcordes_ | ./usr/share/dbus-1 |
04:12.47 | dcordes_ | ./usr/libexec/dbus-1 |
04:12.51 | dcordes_ | ./sbin/hotplug-dbus |
04:13.43 | tmzt | can I have the mtn for oe again? |
04:14.01 | tmzt | or is it the same as the git |
04:14.23 | tmzt | just include the hal package, not just libhal |
04:15.52 | tmzt | paste the hal .bb, is it hal_5.9.1.bb? |
04:16.15 | tmzt | and include hal-info |
04:16.52 | dcordes_ | tmzt: I think git and mtn are the same |
04:17.09 | tmzt | ok, I am looking at git |
04:17.17 | dcordes_ | still got the link? |
04:17.19 | tmzt | yes |
04:17.38 | dcordes_ | ok. shouldn't hal be included if it was needed for X? |
04:17.46 | tmzt | hal info is /usr/share/hal you need that |
04:17.50 | tmzt | hal-info is /usr/share/hal you need that |
04:20.00 | tmzt | I don't know where libhal is or how you got it without hal |
04:20.17 | tmzt | do you have /usr/share/hal and /usr/sbin/hald or /usr/libexec/hald? |
04:21.29 | tmzt | and /etc/init.d/hal ? |
04:21.43 | tmzt | /usr/sbin/hald |
04:24.47 | dcordes_ | there are no files called hal or hald present in the image |
04:25.03 | tmzt | add hal and hal-info |
04:25.24 | tmzt | that might be enough |
04:25.36 | dcordes_ | alright |
04:25.36 | tmzt | but paste that hw/.../tslib.c |
04:25.40 | dcordes_ | ok |
04:26.44 | dcordes_ | http://rafb.net/p/DVgdbO63.html |
04:28.08 | tmzt | after 127: fprintf(2, "opening %s", pi->path); |
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04:29.05 | tmzt | but its not getting there anyway |
04:29.28 | dcordes_ | hmm |
04:32.38 | tmzt | after 85: fprintf("got pressure at %d, %d\n", event.x, event,y); |
04:32.54 | tmzt | add the \n on the last one (127) the same way |
04:33.06 | tmzt | after 127: fprintf(2, "opening %s\n", pi->path); |
04:33.34 | tmzt | that should tell us if its registering the events |
04:34.18 | danthaman915 | hey tmzt my internet (wireless) gets disconnected when i hook up my phone |
04:34.40 | tmzt | is that a carrier thing? |
04:34.48 | danthaman915 | no on my laptop |
04:34.54 | tmzt | what os? |
04:35.02 | danthaman915 | fedora core 9 |
04:35.02 | tmzt | oh, NM |
04:35.22 | danthaman915 | it hooks up to the "wired" network |
04:35.30 | danthaman915 | i really want both |
04:35.34 | tmzt | uncheck "Enable networking" |
04:35.35 | danthaman915 | is that possible |
04:35.49 | tmzt | with it connected to the wireless |
04:36.24 | tmzt | unfortunately the rndis on your phone appears to be a network device |
04:36.25 | danthaman915 | that messes up my wireless internet though |
04:36.53 | tmzt | I can usually do that and then re-enable and a connect to wireless |
04:36.55 | danthaman915 | you gave me a good idea though |
04:36.58 | danthaman915 | hold on |
04:37.23 | tmzt | if not, you can add and delete routes or run dhclient (or dhcp*) manually |
04:39.41 | dcordes_ | tmzt: I've got line 86 "fprintf("got pressure at %d, %d\n", event.x, event,y);" and line 128 fprintf(2, "opening %s\n", pi->path); |
04:40.13 | tmzt | good, do you know the gitweb for X? |
04:41.37 | dcordes_ | org.oe.dev/packages/xorg-xserver/xserver-kdrive_1.4.0.90.bb |
04:43.21 | dcordes_ | http://gitweb.openembedded.net/?p=org.openembedded.dev.git;a=blob;f=packages/xorg-xserver/xserver-kdrive_1.4.0.90.bb;h=1583cc3c6cd3c46d16441c8038446fc196c3ec2e;hb=refs/heads/org.openembedded.dev |
05:00.26 | dcordes_ | tmzt: it failed to build at xcalibrate.c |
05:02.27 | tmzt | paste the whole log |
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05:04.26 | tmzt_mp900c | booted from cmonex with empty gx.dll |
05:07.28 | dcordes_ | tmzt: http://pastebin.com/d5bb30332 |
05:07.31 | dcordes_ | tmzt_mp900c: |
05:13.58 | tmzt | you might need to make clean and make, it looks like the protocol stuff might be bad |
05:14.09 | tmzt | in devshell |
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05:30.08 | dcordes_ | tmzt: oops, I was building for blueangel ;) |
05:30.23 | tmzt | oh |
05:30.36 | tmzt | what is the difference in packages? |
05:31.44 | dcordes_ | no clue I will just see if it will work now |
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05:58.13 | tmzt_mp900c_ | dcordes dcordes_: ping |
06:00.28 | dcordes_ | pong |
06:00.58 | dcordes_ | it rebuilt what it could find now that I changed machine |
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06:08.32 | dcordes_ | ERROR: '/media/archiv/OE/org.openembedded.dev/packages/xorg-xserver/xserver-kdrive_1.4.0.90.bb' failed |
06:08.35 | dcordes_ | grr |
06:08.43 | dcordes_ | ~lart OE |
06:08.43 | apt | duct-tapes OE to the floor and drools on him |
06:09.28 | danthaman915 | yes i got linux to boot!! |
06:09.47 | dcordes_ | ~lart linux |
06:09.47 | apt | whacks linux with the cluebat |
06:10.04 | dcordes_ | danthaman915: where? |
06:10.11 | danthaman915 | on my phone |
06:10.19 | dcordes_ | which? |
06:10.26 | danthaman915 | i got a hermes |
06:10.48 | danthaman915 | what do you have? |
06:15.07 | tmzt_mp900c_ | hey |
06:15.27 | tmzt_mp900c_ | dhclient wlan0 after the phone connection is up |
06:15.44 | tmzt_mp900c_ | what zImage are you using now? |
06:16.02 | danthaman915 | i dont know |
06:16.18 | danthaman915 | im using a .exe |
06:16.19 | tmzt_mp900c_ | you got it to boot though? |
06:16.30 | danthaman915 | it might be an old version |
06:16.36 | tmzt_mp900c_ | what is the name? |
06:16.51 | dcordes_ | you got the wifi working on hermes? |
06:16.57 | dcordes_ | danthaman915: I've got kaiser, blueangel |
06:16.59 | danthaman915 | herm-linux-20070930.exe |
06:17.15 | tmzt_mp900c_ | no, he is trying to connect with rndis from fc9 |
06:17.20 | danthaman915 | i got it |
06:17.22 | tmzt_mp900c_ | to wm5 |
06:17.28 | danthaman915 | its working with wifi |
06:17.48 | tmzt_mp900c_ | oh, do you what wireless chip that is? |
06:18.05 | danthaman915 | what on the phone? |
06:18.09 | tmzt_mp900c_ | yes |
06:18.13 | danthaman915 | no |
06:18.25 | danthaman915 | im just getting started with developing |
06:18.26 | dcordes_ | ha |
06:19.12 | danthaman915 | so im pretty much a noob |
06:19.42 | tmzt_mp900c_ | hey, I mapped pgup |
06:19.58 | tmzt_mp900c_ | doesn't help in irssi though |
06:20.09 | tmzt_mp900c_ | ok |
06:20.18 | tmzt_mp900c_ | what are you asking then? |
06:20.38 | dcordes_ | pgup down works for me in irssi |
06:20.50 | tmzt_mp900c_ | to scroll back? |
06:20.54 | dcordes_ | yea |
06:21.09 | tmzt_mp900c_ | then I must have done it wrong, because it works in console |
06:22.17 | tmzt_mp900c_ | do you know what keysym it is |
06:22.28 | dcordes_ | no clue |
06:22.31 | dcordes_ | symbol? |
06:22.39 | tmzt_mp900c_ | can you check loadkeys on pc? |
06:22.45 | tmzt_mp900c_ | dumpkeys |
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06:24.08 | dcordes_ | tmzt_mp900c_: can't see a keysym in there |
06:24.22 | tmzt_mp900c_ | sorry, just what is page up/page down called |
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06:26.34 | tmzt_mp900c_ | ctrl alt f1 and showkey should work |
06:27.51 | dcordes_ | http://rafb.net/p/x3kA2z50.html |
06:28.04 | dcordes_ | I can't find page up something |
06:28.05 | tmzt_mp900c_ | what is that? |
06:28.16 | dcordes_ | the dumpkeys from my ubuntu pc |
06:28.25 | tmzt_mp900c_ | do you have Scroll_backward on a keycode |
06:28.26 | tmzt_mp900c_ | ok |
06:29.02 | dcordes_ | bitbake -c clean xserver-kdrive |
06:29.08 | dcordes_ | ops |
06:30.37 | tmzt_mp900c_ | its Prior, I think |
06:36.51 | dcordes_ | hmhmhm |
06:37.04 | dcordes_ | failed |
06:38.02 | dcordes_ | I get the same xcalibrate issue |
06:42.30 | tmzt_mp900c_ | oh |
06:42.48 | tmzt_mp900c_ | do you have xorg protos installed? |
06:43.43 | tmzt_mp900c_ | Prior is Page Up, Next is Page Down, Scroll_Backward and Scroll_Forward |
06:43.46 | tmzt_mp900c_ | it works |
06:44.45 | dcordes_ | great |
06:45.11 | dcordes_ | tmzt_mp900c_: xorg protos? where |
06:45.21 | tmzt_mp900c_ | might be a package, I'm checking git |
06:46.07 | tmzt_mp900c_ | is there a way to check dependencies in bitbake? |
06:46.09 | dcordes_ | tmzt_mp900c_: it wouldn't start the compile if it would lack as a dependent package |
06:46.19 | tmzt_mp900c_ | ok |
06:46.24 | tmzt_mp900c_ | that was fast |
06:46.52 | tmzt_mp900c_ | you have xorg-proto though? |
06:47.27 | dcordes_ | um on the device or available from OE? |
06:47.57 | tmzt_mp900c_ | oh, calibrate-proto is a git bb |
06:48.11 | tmzt_mp900c_ | so that might be broken |
06:48.16 | dcordes_ | nah |
06:48.25 | dcordes_ | it is the printfs |
06:48.52 | dcordes_ | bitbake -c clean xserver-kdrive; bitbake xserver-kdrive |
06:48.55 | dcordes_ | and it builds fine |
06:49.24 | tmzt_mp900c_ | paste the tslib.c |
06:49.43 | dcordes_ | wait a second |
06:50.40 | dcordes_ | oops removed it |
06:51.07 | dcordes_ | brb |
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07:10.18 | tmzt_mp900c | I don't have a middle button on this thing, so I guess no copy/paste in gpm |
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07:21.32 | HortonSalm | hi all |
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07:26.55 | kiozen_ | cr2: charging device via usb: http://pastebin.no/13702 |
07:27.48 | kiozen_ | cr2: charging device via ac: http://pastebin.no/13703 |
07:29.35 | kiozen | and btw, got synce working out of the box on my suse system :) |
07:30.21 | tmzt_ | dcordes dcordes_: ping? |
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07:59.18 | thedalmeny | Hi |
08:03.49 | tmzt_mp900c | hello, do you have a question? |
08:08.37 | thedalmeny | nope |
08:09.08 | thedalmeny | Just bought my first HTC, so thought i'd look for a chat room regarding the devices. Not to ask anything, just to see what developments there are |
08:12.35 | tmzt_mp900c | huh, well reading the logs helps: http://irclog.iclem.net/ under #htc-linux |
08:12.35 | tmzt_mp900c | what did you get? |
08:13.44 | thedalmeny | HTC Diamond Touch |
08:14.26 | NiZoX | outch :) |
08:14.37 | thedalmeny | I really like it :) |
08:15.27 | thedalmeny | Well, i really like it after i upgraded the ROM. The shipped rom is slow, update sorts the problems out though. |
08:17.16 | tmzt_mp900c | which one is that, not raphael, the other one, is it GSM? |
08:18.00 | tmzt_mp900c | if you are interested in linux on the device, this would be the place, but I don't know how much is being done on it now |
08:18.19 | tmzt_mp900c | its msm though, which is coming along |
08:18.34 | thedalmeny | Well i just thought i'd see what things are being done, and just wait around until something does pop up. |
08:18.39 | tmzt_mp900c | kaiser, vogue, and titan are working I think |
08:19.07 | tmzt_mp900c | linux doesn't erase what is on there just runs in ram or from sd card, when it does work |
08:19.13 | thedalmeny | ROM update does include GSM 850 support ye |
08:19.21 | thedalmeny | But i live in the UK so i didn't need it |
08:19.32 | thedalmeny | I just upgraded the ROM for the preformance tweaks |
08:19.36 | tmzt_mp900c | sorry, I meant GSM/UMTS or CDMA |
08:19.48 | thedalmeny | ye tis GSM/UMTS |
08:19.52 | tmzt_mp900c | does that one have a keyboard? |
08:19.57 | thedalmeny | na |
08:20.04 | tmzt_mp900c | and do you know the old name for it? |
08:20.22 | thedalmeny | http://www.htc.com/europe/product.aspx?id=46638 |
08:20.26 | thedalmeny | it's that one tmzt_mp900c |
08:20.37 | tmzt_mp900c | or what is under the battery? |
08:20.59 | thedalmeny | It's not in the states yet i don't think |
08:21.30 | tmzt_mp900c | right, but is it the old diamond or raphael, what is the four letters and numbers under the battery? |
08:22.02 | tmzt_mp900c | I think one of the developers is getting one, |
08:22.02 | thedalmeny | 2 secs |
08:22.22 | thedalmeny | the raphael is the one with the slide out keyboard |
08:22.23 | thedalmeny | i believe |
08:22.28 | tmzt_mp900c | ok, |
08:22.49 | tmzt_mp900c | does it have the pattern on the back, like the diamond shapes? |
08:22.53 | thedalmeny | yeah |
08:22.59 | thedalmeny | well mine does |
08:23.02 | thedalmeny | the raphael doesn't |
08:23.12 | tmzt_mp900c | ok |
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08:23.42 | tmzt_mp900c | BabelO_: do you what the Diamond Touch is called? |
08:24.33 | thedalmeny | I havent heard the HTC Diamond touch been called by any other name |
08:24.44 | BabelO_ | tmzt_mp900c: all is here -> http://wiki.xda-developers.com/ |
08:24.52 | tmzt_mp900c | I thought they just annouced that name |
08:25.00 | tmzt_mp900c | maybe was just Diamond |
08:25.05 | thedalmeny | ah Victor |
08:25.35 | tmzt_mp900c | I'll check the wiki |
08:25.50 | thedalmeny | http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Diamond |
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08:27.16 | tmzt_mp900c | 46638, that would be HTC Diamond then |
08:27.49 | tmzt_mp900c | its 7200A, so android kernel might work |
08:27.58 | thedalmeny | ye |
08:28.14 | thedalmeny | Theyre shipping HTC Diamond Touch with Andriod in the future |
08:28.23 | thedalmeny | so i guess you'll be able to put it on the one i have |
08:28.25 | tmzt_mp900c | google has published there code for that chip on git.android.com, |
08:29.04 | tmzt_mp900c | I am referring to the linux kernel from google under git.android.com, |
08:29.19 | thedalmeny | ah k |
08:29.37 | tmzt_mp900c | the android interface has not been released yet, only a version from sdk is available |
08:30.02 | tmzt_mp900c | but it has been made to work on many devices |
08:30.09 | thedalmeny | nice |
08:30.25 | thedalmeny | should be quite a good phone to mess with about in the future then |
08:30.36 | tmzt_mp900c | if you want to come back in a few hours, cr2 may be here and he would know what to start with for haret |
08:31.21 | thedalmeny | Na it's ok thanks tmzt_mp900c i've just gonna hang around here i think over the next few months |
08:31.59 | thedalmeny | Just see what othr peoples experiences are doing stuff with the HTC Diamond touch before i take a dip |
08:33.16 | tmzt_mp900c | ok |
08:33.51 | tmzt_mp900c | someone who has that phone may prove the mmu dumps and other things needed to start development |
08:34.47 | tmzt_mp900c | there is lots of Windows Mobile stuff on www.xda-developers.com though |
08:35.50 | thedalmeny | Yeah been reading xda is how i managed to find the right ROM |
08:36.19 | tmzt_mp900c | did they release those drivers for that one, that fix the video on msm? |
08:37.01 | thedalmeny | dont think it has any video driver issues |
08:37.08 | tmzt_mp900c | good |
08:37.08 | thedalmeny | like previous htc phones |
08:37.30 | tmzt_mp900c | it might just be the 7200a instead of 7200/7500 |
08:37.52 | tmzt_mp900c | that works |
08:39.47 | tmzt_mp900c | victor must be the new name then, and its sold as HTC Diamond Touch |
08:40.56 | thedalmeny | it is a very good phone |
08:41.08 | tmzt_mp900c | what rom did you go with? |
08:41.19 | thedalmeny | The offical asia one |
08:41.30 | tmzt_mp900c | and what kind of free ram/heap do you get? |
08:41.46 | thedalmeny | now ya going over my head technically :) |
08:41.53 | thedalmeny | free ram/heap ? |
08:42.13 | thedalmeny | mean how much free ram have i got running atm? |
08:42.48 | thedalmeny | is has 192mb ram |
08:42.51 | thedalmeny | dunno how muh is free |
08:43.30 | tmzt_mp900c | control panel/settings device info? |
08:44.00 | thedalmeny | Ye it just says |
08:44.01 | tmzt_mp900c | something like that, I don't have ppc |
08:44.04 | thedalmeny | RAM: 192mb |
08:44.11 | thedalmeny | Flash Size 256MB |
08:44.24 | tmzt_mp900c | do you have a thing where you kill programs? |
08:44.40 | thedalmeny | Only had it since sat so dunno |
08:44.50 | thedalmeny | This is my first windows mobile device so its all a bit new to me |
08:45.25 | tmzt_mp900c | well, closing programs with the x doesn't really close them, at least in wm5 |
08:45.32 | thedalmeny | ah |
08:45.34 | thedalmeny | it does on this |
08:45.37 | tmzt_mp900c | so they just stay in ram |
08:45.46 | tmzt_mp900c | oh, that might be the htc thing |
08:46.04 | thedalmeny | when u press "x" on this it does close them but its wm6.1 |
08:46.13 | tmzt_mp900c | ok |
08:46.58 | tmzt_mp900c | how is the touch interface? |
08:47.13 | thedalmeny | Its very good |
08:47.17 | thedalmeny | I had an iphone before it |
08:47.28 | thedalmeny | And it doesnt beat the iphone when it comes to usability |
08:47.32 | thedalmeny | But it's very very close |
08:47.33 | tmzt_mp900c | old iphone? |
08:47.44 | thedalmeny | ye |
08:47.55 | thedalmeny | i didnt want the iphone 3G |
08:48.04 | tmzt_mp900c | do you get the contacts spinning and all that? |
08:48.06 | thedalmeny | So i got the HTC Diamond touch instead |
08:48.11 | thedalmeny | ye tmzt_mp900c |
08:48.30 | thedalmeny | u can flick through contracts like u would a flip book |
08:49.02 | tmzt_mp900c | I've seen pictures, I will probably play with it if it comes here |
08:49.18 | tmzt_mp900c | some people are using it on other phones, I think |
08:49.32 | tmzt_mp900c | but not as fast as on diamond |
08:49.46 | thedalmeny | ye |
08:50.05 | thedalmeny | The ROM the diamond gets shipped with is very bad when it comes to the touch interface speed |
08:50.28 | thedalmeny | But once u update, it works perfectly. |
08:50.45 | tmzt_mp900c | you use asian rom, was that just released? |
08:50.56 | thedalmeny | ye not long ago |
08:51.05 | tmzt_mp900c | might be newer drivers |
08:51.08 | thedalmeny | ye |
08:51.43 | tmzt_mp900c | does touch replace most of the interface or does it fall back to start menu and today screen? |
08:53.36 | tmzt_mp900c | knowing the free ram is important because different roms have different amounts free, and it really makes the biggest difference in usability of these devices |
08:54.48 | thedalmeny | Touch replaces quite a bit |
08:54.51 | thedalmeny | not all of it |
08:55.08 | tmzt_mp900c | what ie does it have? |
08:57.35 | thedalmeny | uses Opera |
08:57.55 | thedalmeny | uses an optimized ver made for htc diamond |
09:07.59 | tmzt_mp900c | ok |
09:12.04 | tmzt_mp900c | so 6.5 opera, full opera on the device not mini? |
09:13.50 | thedalmeny | Opera Mobile 9.5 |
09:14.33 | tmzt_mp900c | 9.5, right |
09:15.13 | tmzt_mp900c | no wifi though? |
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09:16.08 | tmzt_mp900c | it seems all the touch ones don't have the wifi, like vogue doesn't and titan does |
09:16.15 | thedalmeny | ye it does have wifi |
09:16.20 | thedalmeny | Wifi and AGPS |
09:16.27 | tmzt_mp900c | oh, its not in the wiki, is it g? |
09:16.34 | thedalmeny | G ? |
09:16.39 | tmzt_mp900c | 80211g |
09:17.01 | tmzt_mp900c | there it is under connectivity |
09:17.20 | tmzt_mp900c | how does the gps work? |
09:17.49 | thedalmeny | WiFi 802.11b/g |
09:17.51 | tmzt_mp900c | no card slot? |
09:17.53 | thedalmeny | the gps is perfect |
09:17.57 | thedalmeny | got TomTom7 on it |
09:18.03 | thedalmeny | Works like a dream, almost instant lock |
09:18.58 | tmzt_mp900c | but it has the internal 4g flash |
09:19.08 | thedalmeny | ye |
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11:44.12 | kiozen | cr2: you saw the pastebins? |
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12:48.15 | knobo | Maybe there is a faq somewhere, but which HTC phone is most usable with linux now? |
12:51.49 | knobo | Maybe I could get my company to sponce some of the development. |
12:52.07 | knobo | They are considering buying iPhone for everyone |
12:52.25 | knobo | Which I'm working against. |
12:52.34 | marajin | knobo: None of the modern ones are exactly fully useable. We've been getting some decent progress with kaiser/vogue/polaris though |
12:53.11 | knobo | Are you using DLLs from windows to operate the hardware? |
12:53.22 | marajin | No all native linux stuff |
12:53.37 | marajin | we're reverse engineering where necessary |
12:54.18 | marajin | but seriously why buy an iPhone for /business/ O.o your bosses must be cracked int he head |
12:54.40 | raph_ael | could be worse : blackberry |
12:54.49 | knobo | He has his good sides too. |
12:54.53 | marajin | raph_ael: I'd rather have a blackberry than an iPhone |
12:55.15 | marajin | though purely out of loathing for apple/iphone fanaticism |
12:55.21 | knobo | If I should present your plans to the board, to make them sponce you, which page should I point them to? |
12:55.44 | raph_ael | marajin: i would not |
12:55.53 | marajin | knobo: Unfortunately we haven't been doing much public information release, stuff is spammed all over the place. |
12:56.12 | raph_ael | marajin: i'm fed up with apple fanboyism, though the iphone is far better than a blackberry |
12:56.53 | marajin | knobo: All I can tell you is that we've got Framebuffer/SD/GPRS/GPS/GSM/Touchscreen (more or less, we need to fix some niggles)/Keyboard |
12:57.15 | marajin | We need to get... bluetooth, wifi, power management, sound |
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12:57.37 | knobo | ahh. power management is important. |
12:57.42 | knobo | and sound |
12:57.42 | marajin | yes indeedy |
12:57.48 | marajin | well we can make calls |
12:57.50 | knobo | If not, we can no cal |
12:58.00 | marajin | we just can't play sounds from the OS |
12:58.12 | marajin | nah the call stuff is actually handled somewhat in hardware directly |
12:58.24 | marajin | we've booted and made calls under android at least on those devices |
12:59.06 | knobo | Maybe I could make a demo for them, then they would be inspired. |
12:59.25 | marajin | Question though, if they'll consider linux converted HTC devices and the iPhone, what's their objection to running on WM for now? |
13:01.53 | marajin | anyway, those 3 would probably be the best supported modern devices, some of the older devices have somewhat more complete implementations but you'd never get those devices from-new anymore |
13:02.23 | marajin | the 3 devices are pretty much linked in development so they tend to stay quite level in what works |
13:04.16 | marajin | knobo: http://linuxtogo.org/~lgorris/kaiser-bootkit/README.txt |
13:04.42 | marajin | knobo: Bit of info on what's going on there. That folder contains the necessary files to boot a polaris/kaiser into linux/android |
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13:11.37 | marajin | allo ginge! |
13:11.39 | ginge | dcordes_: half way through moving! |
13:11.44 | ginge | marajin: yo |
13:11.51 | ginge | dcordes_: hows the ba image? |
13:12.08 | ginge | I lose all broadband tomorrow for about 2 weeks :( |
13:12.11 | dcordes_ | ginge: doesn't want to build, sorry. |
13:12.21 | marajin | ginge: knobo over there is trying to campaign his company to get HTC devices with linux on them (possible with a view to commiting some of their resources to developing linux on the devices) instead of getting iPhones company wide |
13:12.30 | dcordes_ | you could take some ancient prebuilt one |
13:12.41 | ginge | marajin: nice |
13:13.00 | ginge | dcordes_: no worries, thanks anyway |
13:13.13 | ginge | has to move mosre stuff now... |
13:13.15 | ginge | cya |
13:13.42 | dcordes_ | ginge: I will look where I can get a good image and email |
13:15.12 | marajin | dcordes_: Yo.. |
13:15.17 | dcordes_ | yoyo |
13:15.32 | marajin | dcordes_: that comment to gingeabout knobo might be of interest to you too |
13:15.50 | dcordes_ | I'm reading through the conversation |
13:16.23 | marajin | dcordes_: Well it'd be nice for us to get some corporate backing/paid dev time |
13:17.00 | knobo | There is a meeting on thursday, I'll talk with them about this then |
13:17.12 | dcordes_ | heck we need the touchscreen driver so knobo can present openmoko |
13:17.20 | marajin | seriously |
13:17.26 | dcordes_ | knobo: are you guys envolved in embedded development? |
13:17.34 | marajin | they might well be wooed if you could present working openmoko |
13:17.36 | dcordes_ | s/envolved/involved& |
13:17.44 | dcordes_ | *_o ^^ |
13:18.12 | knobo | dcordes_: no, we are in to free software |
13:18.32 | dcordes_ | then you really cannot get an iphone :) |
13:18.41 | knobo | dcordes_: that's what I'm saying |
13:18.51 | dcordes_ | knobo: did you look at the kaiser? |
13:19.34 | knobo | I'm just starting to look in to this matter my self, as I can see that the guys handeling our phones are not able to do it. |
13:19.36 | dcordes_ | marajin: btw, I think dzo is half way with the (non-phone)audio and he said it should be the same on all msm7x00 |
13:19.49 | marajin | dcordes_: sweet =) |
13:19.57 | knobo | So I have no mandate, yet, but this issue needs fixing |
13:20.31 | marajin | well there's no real argument that HTCs are the best/most flexible phones for business |
13:20.51 | BabelO_ | kiozen: i found a new idea to improve M :), like when approach a Waypoint doing an automatic zoom in to a specific level detail... |
13:21.11 | dcordes_ | marajin: if I'd want to sell business phones, I'd go for kaiser. |
13:21.20 | BabelO_ | kiozen: and some other idea too, but i think you have to say, then just do it :) |
13:21.23 | marajin | dcordes_: That is what the kaiser was designed for yeah |
13:21.29 | BabelO_ | kiozen: but i m not Nike company |
13:21.51 | kiozen | BabelO_: zooming at proximity sounds good |
13:21.56 | marajin | dcordes_: Or the Diamond Pro possible but too expensive/no linux at all yet |
13:21.59 | kiozen | BabelO_: and what is the other? |
13:22.20 | dcordes_ | BabelO_: like in the first GTA games, lol :)I |
13:22.26 | marajin | dcordes_: Tho' the diamond (pro) may turn out to be a good candidate for android and such given that it's an MSM7201A |
13:22.35 | dcordes_ | marajin: raphael? |
13:22.43 | marajin | dcordes_: GTA games zoomed at speed not proximity |
13:22.52 | marajin | dcordes_: yeah the diamond pro == raphael |
13:23.00 | knobo | Using HTC with WM until Linux is working is a realy good idea. I'll see if I could make a demo for them by thursday. I know a guy who has offerd a HTC phone to try it out on. |
13:23.15 | knobo | I don't know which one it is, but it is said to be possible. |
13:23.24 | BabelO_ | kiozen: it is more like a maps automatic orientation, because i use M with my bike... a little more difficult to get a coorect maps orientation, specialy when wife say the direction |
13:23.38 | marajin | knobo: find out which device it is and someone around here will be able to help you get it running if its a supported device |
13:23.39 | kiozen | LOL |
13:23.49 | cr2 | kiozen: i need to read the datasheet to understand your logs |
13:23.50 | dcordes_ | knobo: where are you located? |
13:23.55 | cr2 | #define CTRL_TEMP0 0x04 |
13:23.55 | cr2 | #define CTRL_TEMP1 0x74 |
13:23.55 | cr2 | #define CTRL_VBAT 0x24 |
13:23.56 | cr2 | #define CTRL_AUX_N 0x64 |
13:23.56 | cr2 | #define CTRL_START 0x80 |
13:24.17 | cr2 | kiozen: your logs show 0x72 0x80 |
13:24.30 | cr2 | and 0x72 0x00 |
13:24.41 | kiozen | hm |
13:25.06 | knobo | dcordes_: norway, oslo |
13:25.08 | kiozen | do you need a trace with a charged device, too? |
13:25.14 | kiozen | cr2: ? |
13:25.38 | cr2 | kiozen: no, we need to understand this log |
13:25.42 | kiozen | ok |
13:26.26 | dcordes_ | knobo: ok. thought you'd probably be more proximate so I could have offered kaiser for tryout |
13:27.58 | cr2 | kiozen: Table1 of tsc2046 says '2' is VBAT ;) |
13:28.36 | cr2 | and '7' is temp1 |
13:29.36 | cr2 | kiozen: but they are shifted, i think. |
13:29.36 | BabelO_ | kiozen: is the GPS direction stable ? |
13:29.54 | BabelO_ | cr2: why you did not take the tsc2046.c ? |
13:31.07 | cr2 | BabelO_: does it work in single-ended mode ? |
13:31.16 | kiozen | BabelO_: only if you have some speed > ~3km/h |
13:31.54 | cr2 | BabelO_: can you provide me with a link ? |
13:31.57 | BabelO_ | cr2: single-ended ? i use it on artemis but it is only 16bit mode |
13:32.08 | kiozen | cr2: if i do a powermon while tracing, we should see several request (temp et al) |
13:32.48 | BabelO_ | cr2: http://git.linuxtogo.org/?p=groups/mobile-linux/kernel.git;a=tree;f=drivers/input/touchscreen;h=5b16ef6a5b571bc059f5f4547d07251c8db4b3ec;hb=htc-omap |
13:33.27 | BabelO_ | cr2: this one works perfect for TS, ads7846 give me some strange results |
13:37.18 | cr2 | kiozen: it may just pick the data from cached locations, but it's interesting to run it longer than 1 minute. |
13:37.43 | cr2 | BabelO_: ts may run in differential mode. |
13:37.51 | kiozen | ok, i can try that.. |
13:39.13 | cr2 | BabelO_: this is a ts driver, we need vbat and tempX too. |
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13:40.35 | cr2 | BabelO_: and wince sets 15bit transfers for some reason. but the standard ads7846 driver works for ts. |
13:40.36 | BabelO_ | cr2: ok, then i can do one myself :) just to see of on arte i can get battery from that, but don't think |
13:41.00 | cr2 | ok |
13:41.25 | BabelO_ | cr2: on arte ads7846 give me bad result, tsc2046_ts is better and fine |
13:43.43 | dcordes_ | mickeyl: ping? |
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13:52.15 | BabelO_ | kiozen: so it is nmea command, i ll look to nmea spec, can be nice to have orientation too |
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13:56.20 | marajin | dcordes_: So, what's been happening? |
13:57.41 | kiozen | BabelO_: no nmea |
13:58.09 | kiozen | BabelO_: the direction is derived from the coordinates of p[n] and p[n-1] |
13:58.11 | BabelO_ | kiozen: ok, so how can i get that, only math calcul ? from available sat |
13:58.14 | BabelO_ | ok |
13:58.40 | BabelO_ | that easy this way |
13:58.51 | kiozen | BabelO_: if speed is too low, noise will make your direction pointer jump |
13:59.08 | BabelO_ | kiozen: for automatic zoom, it can be a propertie of waypoint on GT |
13:59.33 | kiozen | BabelO_: yes, wpts do have a proximity value already |
13:59.46 | BabelO_ | kiozen: oh, very good :) |
14:00.12 | kiozen | BabelO_: proximity zoom is easy |
14:00.31 | kiozen | BabelO_: however your map rotation is a bit tricky |
14:01.10 | kiozen | BabelO_: you have to rotate a bitmap of the diagonal size of you screen |
14:01.23 | BabelO_ | kiozen: yes i understand, i think i see that in roadmap or another tool cr2 told me |
14:01.24 | kiozen | BabelO_: and that has to be done quite frequently |
14:01.36 | kiozen | BabelO_: that needs a good cpu |
14:02.03 | kiozen | BabelO_: yes vector maps are much easier in that respect |
14:02.16 | BabelO_ | ok |
14:05.43 | kiozen | got to go, bbl |
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15:47.28 | BabelO_ | cr2, kiozen : http://www.cuil.com do you know this one ? |
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17:14.06 | tmzt_mp900c | on gta/fr? |
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17:40.04 | dcordes | BabelO: that cuil looks interesting |
17:40.51 | BabelO | dcordes: yes make up by old google guys |
17:41.16 | dcordes | I'm reading info |
17:44.19 | dcordes | We believe that analyzing the Web rather than our users is a more useful approach |
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17:50.46 | dcordes | hi marbalon |
17:50.50 | marbalon | dcordes: hi |
17:51.07 | marbalon | any success with Xfbdev ? |
17:51.41 | dcordes | no I tried to insert two fprintf lines tmzt told me but it won't build |
17:51.51 | dcordes | do you have openembedded by any chance? |
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17:52.26 | marbalon | dcordes: no |
17:52.57 | dcordes | mickey|walking: heya. Can you give me a hand adding the debug printing to tslib.c? |
17:53.02 | dcordes | (in the xser-kdrive) |
17:53.07 | marbalon | dcordes: there is any tutorial about OE configuration and compilation? |
17:53.40 | dcordes | marbalon: I always look at http://angstrom-distribution.org/building-angstrom |
17:53.56 | dcordes | just remove the .stable stuff and only use org.openembedded.dev |
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17:55.27 | marbalon | dcordes: any way to connect via telnet or ssh ? |
17:56.14 | dcordes | marbalon: ssh. use gprs to connect to the net and then revers ssh |
17:56.48 | marbalon | dcordes: to expensive in our country :( |
17:58.04 | dcordes | marbalon: we really need usb or bluetooth |
18:02.53 | cr2 | BabelO: yes, a good idea. to be not so evil :) |
18:04.01 | cr2 | google-analytics and such redirect to /dev/null here. |
18:04.44 | BabelO | cr2: but it is not working very well at the moment |
18:07.23 | dcordes | BabelO: it looks ok to me |
18:07.53 | tmzt_mp900c | dcordes: hey |
18:08.07 | dcordes | heya |
18:08.38 | tmzt_mp900c | did you get me that file in a paste? |
18:08.56 | tmzt_mp900c | I can't know where exactly you put the printf's otherwise |
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18:09.47 | dcordes | tmzt_mp900c: tslib.c from xorg-xserver-kdrive package? |
18:09.54 | tmzt_mp900c | yes |
18:10.36 | dcordes | I accidently told OE to remove the workdir. but I pasted it yesterday let me look |
18:11.17 | tmzt_mp900c | the xcalibrate proto comes for xorg git I think, so it may have been changed |
18:12.36 | dcordes | don't find the paste |
18:12.59 | dcordes | I will see if OE still builds it without the fprintf changes |
18:13.04 | tmzt_mp900c | ok |
18:15.25 | marbalon | dcordes: what MACHINE = ??? did you set in OE ? |
18:16.28 | marbalon | dcordes: and bitbake x11-image for building ? |
18:17.31 | dcordes | marbalon: http://rafb.net/p/G0KEcG73.html |
18:17.37 | dcordes | of course we have kaiser in OE ;) |
18:18.38 | dcordes | I wonder if it wouldn't be better to use stable for all this testing |
18:18.49 | dcordes | but better use dev so we are in sync |
18:18.55 | BabelO | dcordes: compare a search with google and cuil, for example : "linux on htc artemis" and you will see. |
18:19.49 | kiozen | hm,, how do I get a second login for haret? |
18:20.07 | marbalon | dcordes: thanks I will try to build that, you put that on SD card as initrd image or ext3 partitions? |
18:20.21 | BabelO | kiozen: port 999 |
18:20.29 | BabelO | Sorry 9998 |
18:20.32 | dcordes | marbalon: use the latest git source revision for SRCREV_linux-kaiser and OE will even give you an uptodate, working kernel |
18:21.07 | kiozen | BabelO: port is inknown key word |
18:21.24 | kiozen | s/inknown/unknown/ |
18:21.32 | tmzt_mp900c | listen 999 |
18:21.53 | BabelO | kiozen: telnet on port 9998 after doing a listen |
18:21.58 | dcordes | marbalon: sd, but you have to be a bit careful: there are mmc DMA errors which can kill your system. they occure when you make large file operations in the image. for example it happens here when I run a find on / or try tp mplayer a video. |
18:22.17 | BabelO | Ok i m slow with n800 keyboard |
18:23.08 | kiozen | BabelO: listen! that's it, thanks |
18:23.14 | tmzt_mp900c | haven't needed that since doing nledset and mmutrace together |
18:23.28 | dcordes | marbalon: I have 1st primary parition fat 16 with haret, default.txt (add to cmdline root=/dev/mmcblk0p2 and remove initrd) zImage. then there is the root file system extracted on the _ext2_ on partition two |
18:23.50 | tmzt_mp900c | do you have rootdelay, dcordes? |
18:24.10 | dcordes | tmzt_mp900c: marbalon yea, also put a rootdelay of 5 or so |
18:24.48 | marbalon | dcordes: wrr I left my card reader at work... |
18:25.04 | dcordes | :( |
18:25.10 | dcordes | sucks |
18:25.18 | tmzt_mp900c | itsutils, do you have windows? |
18:25.40 | dcordes | marbalon: you can use initrd also but it sucks for debugging |
18:28.24 | kiozen | cr2: a spp trace with powermon over 1 minute http://pastebin.no/13749 |
18:38.43 | dcordes | marbalon: I'm getting a micro sd usb reader device with my new 8gb micro sd |
18:42.27 | dcordes | tmzt_mp900c: I'll get the workdir out of OE and modify/build manually |
18:48.44 | kiozen | damnit, no dynamic_cast for arm :/ |
18:50.49 | dcordes | tmzt_mp900c: now it won't build at all any longer |
18:51.08 | BabelO | kiozen: lol, i discover that too |
18:51.29 | BabelO | kiozen: qobject_cast works |
18:52.18 | kiozen | does not help here, I know it's an QObject, but I want to know it the object has an extended API |
18:52.40 | kiozen | killall -9 arm |
18:54.44 | dcordes | another rm -rf tmp/ |
18:56.37 | kiozen | yes, tomorrow I get "Appleseed Ex Machina" at least one positive news for today |
19:01.05 | dcordes | looks nice |
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19:02.41 | BabelO | kiozen: upgrading to suse 11.0 since 2hours |
19:03.12 | kiozen | BabelO: arrgg, you are dooooooooooomed |
19:04.16 | BabelO | kiozen: intermet upgrade booted from grub ;) |
19:04.26 | BabelO | So n800 save me |
19:05.13 | kiozen | dooooomed |
19:05.13 | kiozen | since I installed suse11 my compelte network handling is a mess |
19:05.57 | kiozen | latest gcc gives me a hell of stupid warnings from all libs |
19:06.24 | BabelO | kiozen: 64bits? |
19:06.26 | kiozen | just my total lack of time saves me from downgrading to 10.3 |
19:06.30 | kiozen | yes 64 bits |
19:10.05 | wasup | ginge: you there? |
19:10.28 | marajin | wasup: I think ginge is gone for a while now, he's in the middle of moving |
19:10.51 | wasup | oh... do u know has he released n e new zImages? |
19:11.15 | marajin | probably on his site, I'll find itfor you in a minute (busy right now), or dcordes will know |
19:11.31 | wasup | ok..thanks |
19:12.24 | BabelO | kiozen: still 32b for me |
19:12.49 | kiozen | BabelO: have fun with knetworkmanager |
19:14.20 | BabelO | kiozen: i always remove it else when i connnect artemis usb i lose internet ;) |
19:14.41 | dcordes | wasup: titan zImage? |
19:14.41 | marbalon | dcordes: http://rafb.net/p/NzspWR63.html can you look that ? |
19:14.54 | kiozen | BabelO: me too, but now they seem to have fucked up tradittional method, too |
19:15.04 | marbalon | dcordes: problem with CACHE variable ??? |
19:15.52 | dcordes | marbalon: did you make the variable setup script as explained in the building-angstrom howto? |
19:16.26 | dcordes | BabelO: does blueangel qtopia image use tslib? |
19:16.40 | marbalon | dcordes: no just create local.conf |
19:16.45 | wasup | dcordes: yeah... just wondering if there was a new one |
19:17.09 | dcordes | marbalon: make the script then. you need to source it before you build |
19:17.23 | dcordes | wasup: no clue. I bet if |
19:17.37 | marbalon | dcordes: ok, thans |
19:17.40 | dcordes | ..ginge made a new one in the meantime, he would have notified you |
19:17.41 | BabelO | dcordes: yes, artemis too |
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19:18.01 | dcordes | BabelO: I should try it on kaiser then. maybe it just works ootb witht the blueangel image |
19:18.17 | dcordes | will diskdump my current sd |
19:19.58 | BabelO | dcordes: take artemis image |
19:20.15 | BabelO | dcordes: i post the link yesturday |
19:21.47 | BabelO | dcordes: you have gps app on it ;) |
19:21.54 | dcordes | yea :D |
19:22.07 | dcordes | qlandkarte |
19:23.01 | kiozen | dcordes: good on you |
19:24.37 | wasup | dcordes: oh its cause i have been off since friday.. and last time that happened.. They got the SD card to work |
19:24.44 | BabelO | dcordes: yes ;) you have to edit /etc/init.d/qpe before start |
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19:28.20 | dcordes | BabelO: can you give me the link? |
19:28.40 | dcordes | which one shall I try? ba or artemis? |
19:28.53 | dcordes | oh sorry, you already said artemis. I can't find the link |
19:29.05 | BabelO | dcordes: look in the log at ltg, the one for artemis |
19:30.49 | dcordes | BabelO: http://linuxtogo.org/~htcpxa/htcartemis/qtopia/QtopiaPhone-artemis-image.rootfs.tar.bz2 ? |
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19:33.12 | BabelO | dcordes: yes ! |
19:33.31 | dcordes | ok extracted it |
19:36.12 | dcordes | BabelO: why do you have to mknod the event devices in the qpe init script for artemis? |
19:36.23 | dcordes | is no udev present? |
19:36.52 | BabelO | dcordes: wrong kernel config on first release |
19:37.12 | BabelO | dcordes: copy artemis section |
19:37.17 | dcordes | ok so I don't have to add them for kaiser? (in angstrom, they are created automatically) |
19:37.48 | dcordes | <PROTECTED> |
19:37.49 | dcordes | <PROTECTED> |
19:37.52 | dcordes | what's that for? |
19:38.09 | dcordes | lines83, 84 |
19:39.23 | dcordes | BabelO: kaiser ts is on event0, keyboard on event1 |
19:39.40 | BabelO | dcordes: default , it is like switch case in c |
19:40.04 | dcordes | ln -s /dev/smd7 /dev/gps |
19:40.22 | BabelO | dcordes: so you duplicate arte and check your cat /proc/cpuiinfo |
19:40.23 | dcordes | so I put the switch case thing after Kaiser section? |
19:40.31 | dcordes | yea I already booted to check cpuinfo |
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19:41.02 | dcordes | HTC Kaiser |
19:41.14 | BabelO | dcordes: simply copy artemis part between ) and ;; |
19:42.06 | dcordes | ok I'm not sure about export QWS_KEYBOARD="htcbuthandler:/dev/input/event0,GPIO:/dev/input/event1,EXT" |
19:42.52 | BabelO | Just keep the first |
19:43.01 | cr2 | kiozen: it's the same consistent pattern in the trace |
19:43.08 | BabelO | I have many entries on arte |
19:43.15 | dcordes | BabelO: the first? you mean remove GPIO? |
19:43.22 | kiozen | cr2: yes that what i thought, too |
19:43.24 | cr2 | kiozen: 6 writes and 6 reads. |
19:43.37 | cr2 | kiozen: 2 r/w repeated 3 times. |
19:43.54 | cr2 | kiozen: i see it in the battdrv.dll too |
19:44.24 | cr2 | now i need to understand the numbers. |
19:44.51 | BabelO | Linwnck, lol |
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19:45.27 | BabelO | dcordes: anyone if you change the event name |
19:46.05 | dcordes | BabelO: I don't really understand. keyboard output goes to /dev/input/event0 on kaiser so I put htcbuthandler:/dev/input/event1, but what about the other part? |
19:46.46 | kiozen | cr2: have ordered a new gps mouse i-Blue 747, hope it's without static nav, and linux friendly |
19:46.49 | BabelO | dcordes: put event0 not 1 |
19:47.32 | dcordes | BabelO: event0 is touchscreen only |
19:49.08 | BabelO | dcordes: ok , so you can boot |
19:49.23 | dcordes | wait I'll put /etc/pointercal |
19:49.45 | BabelO | dcordes: after you can enable modem, but before try without |
19:50.02 | dcordes | 4943 2 -3038528 -1083 14390 -30622432 6553666 65536 |
19:51.31 | dcordes | BabelO: http://rafb.net/p/ewP6p480.html camn |
19:51.40 | dcordes | can you take a look? I'm not sure about *) position |
19:53.39 | BabelO | dcordes: *) ;; go after ;; of kaiser section, |
19:54.07 | BabelO | dcordes: also, you have to measure screen size in millimeter |
19:54.12 | dcordes | ok |
19:54.13 | dcordes | oh |
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19:59.47 | dcordes | BabelO: I measured it, it's equal to artemis |
20:00.26 | BabelO | Ok |
20:00.47 | dcordes | <PROTECTED> |
20:00.47 | dcordes | ;; |
20:00.47 | dcordes | <PROTECTED> |
20:00.48 | dcordes | esac |
20:00.51 | dcordes | correct? |
20:02.14 | BabelO | dcordes: *) ;; |
20:02.35 | BabelO | ;; *) ;; |
20:02.47 | dcordes | alright |
20:05.52 | dcordes | BabelO: 118M/media/disk2/ extracted. is that ok? |
20:07.03 | BabelO | Don t know |
20:07.11 | BabelO | No computer |
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20:09.41 | dcordes | BabelO: it is stuck after Starting Qtopia on HTC Kaiser |
20:10.06 | dcordes | Cannot create hore |
20:10.09 | dcordes | lol |
20:10.30 | dcordes | Cannot get display lock |
20:13.57 | BabelO | Ssh to device and try by hand, set the env variable before |
20:14.49 | dcordes | Cannot create semaphore /tmp/qtembedded-0/QtEmbedded-0 'd'\ Error 38: Function not implemented\ Cannot get display lock\ /local/devel/qtopia-git/qtopia_snapshot/src/libraries/qtopia/qperformancelog.cpp:104 shmget failed: Function not implemented |
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20:15.25 | dcordes | it flashes between this and anohter error: |
20:15.49 | tmzt_mp900c | dcordes: is /tmp a tmpfs? |
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20:16.46 | dcordes | <PROTECTED> |
20:17.36 | dcordes | BabelO: ssh is not so good. I would need ppp, the gprs init script and run the reverse ssh script |
20:17.39 | cr2 | dcordes: sysv ipc not compiled ? |
20:18.18 | dcordes | cr2: it's 1:1 artemis image, only changed board stuff for kaiser and replaced /etc/pointercal |
20:18.18 | tmzt_mp900c | cr2: would it be hard to get bt on kaiser? |
20:19.28 | tmzt_mp900c | do we know the gpio for it? |
20:20.07 | dcordes | tmzt_mp900c: I think the problem is that the uart it is connected to does not function properly |
20:20.18 | dcordes | iirc, we can read from it, and writing causes a hang |
20:21.10 | tmzt_mp900c | so it would need an entry in the serial driver (forget what it is called) |
20:21.29 | tmzt_mp900c | there are many different quirks for pxa and others |
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20:21.36 | Red_Devil | hello |
20:21.52 | dcordes | hi |
20:21.57 | marajin | 'lo |
20:22.16 | Red_Devil | :-) |
20:22.22 | tmzt_mp900c | alternatively, does the card part of the wifi work? |
20:22.27 | tmzt_mp900c | the sdio interface? |
20:22.32 | Red_Devil | i'm playin around with my kaiser and linux |
20:22.36 | Red_Devil | pretty cool stuff |
20:22.37 | dcordes | tmzt_mp900c: I never tried anything about that |
20:22.50 | dcordes | marajin: you know anything about it? |
20:22.51 | cr2 | dcordes: you don't have sysv ipc in the kaiser _kernel_ |
20:23.05 | marajin | dcordes: Know anything about what? |
20:23.17 | dcordes | marajin: kaiser wifi |
20:23.23 | dcordes | cr2: k |
20:23.28 | marajin | dcordes: Erm what do you want to know about it? |
20:23.51 | dcordes | marajin: did somebody try to make it work? |
20:23.52 | tmzt_mp900c | I asked if the sdio part worked, and the driver didn't? |
20:24.13 | marajin | dcordes: No but SDIO technically detects it I think. |
20:24.17 | tmzt_mp900c | but I remember that only on sdio is working |
20:24.43 | tmzt_mp900c | dcordes: (I think) ls /sys/bus/ |
20:24.54 | tmzt_mp900c | see what sdio is under |
20:25.19 | dcordes | cr2: enable CONFIG_SYSVIPC in kaiser .config? |
20:25.42 | dcordes | ok let me boot tmzt_mp900c |
20:25.57 | tmzt_mp900c | do that zImage first, if you are going to try qt |
20:26.53 | dcordes | right.. I don't have the angstrom fs now on the card anyway |
20:26.59 | tmzt_mp900c | is there a way to dump cis from sdio devices? |
20:27.00 | dcordes | could have put both |
20:27.23 | tmzt_mp900c | you can force a shell under the qt image? |
20:27.39 | tmzt_mp900c | init=/bin/sh or add 2 to cmdline? |
20:28.52 | tmzt_mp900c | or, acx is internal so no cis |
20:29.20 | dcordes | command init sequence? |
20:29.41 | tmzt_mp900c | do we know T* number for it? |
20:30.05 | dcordes | /OE/org.openembedded.dev/tmp/cross/bin/arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi-gcc: No such file or directory ouch |
20:30.11 | tmzt_mp900c | no, if I understand it, sdio is similar to pcmcia in some ways, |
20:30.14 | cr2 | dcordes: yes. |
20:30.38 | tmzt_mp900c | dumpcis would identify the card under pcmcia, I wondered if the was a similar program for sdio |
20:31.34 | BabelO | dcordes: yes you need sys and also shm and tmpfs |
20:32.10 | cr2 | dcordes: it's an old hardcore unix way, i'm suprised (?) that this java stuff from gooooogle does not use it. |
20:32.35 | kiozen | cr2: do you know this? ftp://ftp.gentoo.ru/projects/handhelds/fs_n560/ScreenShoots/Inside_N560/ |
20:32.51 | cr2 | dcordes: lol. that's why qtopia will be always faster :) |
20:33.19 | cr2 | kiozen: this machine was unavailable for months. |
20:34.29 | kiozen | cr2: there is a small backup battery!? |
20:34.47 | cr2 | where ? |
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20:35.21 | cr2 | 1020210.JPG ? |
20:35.26 | cr2 | yes :) |
20:35.32 | cr2 | for the rtc probably. |
20:36.03 | dcordes | cr2: booting. |
20:36.09 | cr2 | aic1110 ? |
20:37.46 | kiozen | but clock is reset after reset, ok that is obvious :) |
20:37.53 | dcordes | cr2: same errors |
20:38.20 | tmzt_mp900c | did you add anything to /etc/fstab? |
20:38.39 | dcordes | no |
20:38.41 | cr2 | kiozen: this site is a bit outdated |
20:38.53 | kiozen | why? |
20:38.57 | cr2 | dcordes: do you have 'ipcs' ? |
20:39.06 | BabelO | dcordes: you activate shmfs too? |
20:39.18 | dcordes | cr2: what's that? |
20:39.27 | cr2 | dcordes: try in the desktop. |
20:39.32 | cr2 | s/in /on / |
20:40.13 | kiozen | cr2: the pics are great, ok the my rootfs is better now ;) |
20:40.20 | tmzt_mp900c | what mounts /dev/shm ? |
20:41.05 | dcordes | BabelO: System V/Xenix/V7/Coherent file system support (SYSV_FS) ? (I cannot find shmfs in my config) |
20:41.45 | BabelO | <PROTECTED> |
20:43.28 | dcordes | <PROTECTED> |
20:43.35 | dcordes | it's in pseudo fs |
20:43.43 | dcordes | and it is(was) enabled. |
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20:44.56 | BabelO | dcordes: soo something else is missing, should work on kaiser too |
20:45.19 | tmzt_mp900c | tmpfs? |
20:45.42 | tmzt_mp900c | I have a tmpfs on /dev/shm on my hpc and on my desktop, ipcs works on my hpc |
20:46.48 | BabelO | dcordes: check your .config with ba defconfig |
20:47.14 | BabelO | Or artemis, or universal |
20:47.27 | cr2 | dcordes: sysv_fs is not needed. |
20:48.05 | dcordes | cr2: ok do you have any other idea what might be missing? |
20:49.41 | cr2 | dcordes: do you have ipcs in rootfs ? |
20:53.49 | Red_Devil | am i able to call with the newest rom? |
20:53.57 | Red_Devil | i'm trying but nothing happens |
20:54.07 | Red_Devil | except the dialer shows he is calling |
20:54.15 | Red_Devil | or i mean dialing |
20:54.47 | dcordes | Red_Devil: try the other android initrd |
20:55.23 | Red_Devil | you mean angstrom ? |
20:55.31 | Red_Devil | i tried that but i only get a shell |
21:01.05 | dcordes | Red_Devil: that what the angstrom image is supposed to do. I mean the other android initrd |
21:01.27 | dcordes | Red_Devil: I think on some kaisers it works, on some not. see the forum. there are different reports with the same files |
21:01.50 | dcordes | Red_Devil: I mean this one http://linuxtogo.org/~lgorris/kaiser-bootkit/android-data.bin |
21:02.04 | Red_Devil | ah |
21:02.12 | Red_Devil | it is the same size as android.bin |
21:02.23 | Red_Devil | but i will try |
21:03.04 | dcordes | if that doesn't work either, try this one http://it029000.massey.ac.nz/vogue/initrd-android |
21:03.39 | Red_Devil | ok |
21:04.19 | Red_Devil | sometimes the device hangs if i'm playin with it |
21:05.11 | dcordes | android is not so stable |
21:05.21 | Red_Devil | ah |
21:05.30 | Red_Devil | i even can't hang up |
21:05.57 | dcordes | or better said, it is not so stable on our devices. that's becauset there are no source, and therefore you can't poke around, tryout stuff and improve functionality |
21:06.32 | dcordes | Red_Devil: call a number of a device which is in your range so you can make sure you don't accidently waste money |
21:09.07 | Red_Devil | ah ok |
21:09.14 | Red_Devil | i called my voicemail :-) |
21:09.26 | dcordes | cr2: didn't see the question. no, can't see ipcs in the artemis rootfs |
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21:09.36 | dcordes | Red_Devil: it worked? |
21:09.38 | BabelO | <PROTECTED> |
21:10.31 | dcordes | BabelO: is artemis defconfig in linuxtogo git? |
21:11.07 | BabelO | dcordes: yes |
21:11.27 | dcordes | BabelO: which branch? hh? |
21:11.47 | Red_Devil | nope |
21:11.57 | Red_Devil | i'm trying the initrd-android now |
21:12.25 | dcordes | Red_Devil: you change the default.txt accordingly, no? |
21:12.33 | Red_Devil | yes i did ;) |
21:13.00 | dcordes | sorry, just to make sure :) |
21:13.06 | Red_Devil | the splash screen is pretty cool |
21:13.10 | Red_Devil | np :) |
21:13.13 | Red_Devil | mmh |
21:13.23 | dcordes | I think the whole UI looks cool, if just it would work |
21:13.31 | Red_Devil | thiis one looks better |
21:13.47 | dcordes | the hardware drivers are all fine, it's just the the userland |
21:15.58 | Red_Devil | this one is more stable |
21:16.11 | dcordes | can you make a call? |
21:16.11 | Red_Devil | but i have a red cross in my network icon |
21:16.46 | Red_Devil | didnt work :( |
21:17.06 | Red_Devil | but the development is on the way! |
21:21.29 | dcordes | calling should work.. |
21:21.43 | Red_Devil | ok |
21:21.50 | Red_Devil | but i even don't need to put my pin code in |
21:22.04 | Red_Devil | how can the pone be connected with the network ? |
21:24.37 | Red_Devil | wow |
21:24.42 | Red_Devil | at least incomming calls work |
21:24.48 | dcordes | did you try to call yourself in android? |
21:25.04 | Red_Devil | ye |
21:25.06 | Red_Devil | s |
21:25.24 | Red_Devil | i should get the voicemail at that moment |
21:25.27 | dcordes | no clue about the pin question, as I disabled it in my sim card. |
21:25.50 | Red_Devil | ah |
21:26.00 | Red_Devil | touch screen is a bit buggy |
21:26.10 | dcordes | maybe you should also try to. but I think it's not needed. yes, known problem. |
21:27.05 | Red_Devil | cool |
21:27.08 | Red_Devil | ougoing works to |
21:27.15 | Red_Devil | outgoing * |
21:27.41 | Red_Devil | looks pretty promesing :) |
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21:30.41 | dcordes | Red_Devil: what did you do to get outgoing work? disabled pin? |
21:31.00 | Red_Devil | nope |
21:31.05 | Red_Devil | just called another number |
21:31.25 | Red_Devil | i seemed that calling my own number was the problem |
21:32.19 | cr2 | hehe. |
21:32.31 | cr2 | 250G hdd said goodbye. |
21:32.49 | Red_Devil | to bad |
21:32.50 | cr2 | raid1 rules :) |
21:32.53 | Red_Devil | data loss? |
21:32.54 | Red_Devil | ah |
21:32.56 | Red_Devil | :) |
21:32.59 | cr2 | :) |
21:33.28 | meredydd | cr2: Just cross all available extremities until the rebuild is complete. |
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21:33.45 | cr2 | <PROTECTED> |
21:34.09 | Red_Devil | :) |
21:34.21 | dcordes | Red_Devil: can you try calling that number which worked in "android.bin" after you finished? |
21:34.22 | BabelO_ | lol, suse install firefox 3 beta |
21:34.45 | dcordes | Red_Devil: I just want to find out if it would be better to replace android.bin with initrd-android |
21:34.53 | dcordes | but if you say it is more stable it would be a good idea anyway |
21:35.37 | cr2 | BabelO_: i use unpatched 10.2 there. because it's stable. without the net connection of course :) |
21:35.56 | Red_Devil | ok dcordes |
21:36.02 | Red_Devil | i'll try |
21:36.12 | Red_Devil | but first i'm gonna take something to drink |
21:36.13 | BabelO_ | cr2: 11.0 looks ok :) but after migration, not from scratch |
21:36.14 | Red_Devil | brb |
21:36.16 | dcordes | thanks |
21:37.13 | cr2 | 40MB/sec is ok. |
21:38.02 | tmzt_mp900c | dcordes: did you get the shm working, do you still get an error from qtopia? |
21:38.41 | meredydd | dcordes: How's the grand tree-merging of the various devices going |
21:38.42 | meredydd | ? |
21:39.44 | dcordes | tmzt_mp900c: the shm stuff was already enabled |
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21:40.49 | dcordes | meredydd: gine merged htc-msm up with android-msm 2.6.25 so we could look at htc-msm+dzo |
21:41.19 | Red_Devil | booting |
21:42.04 | dcordes | Red_Devil: what did you mean the massey initrd is more stable? |
21:42.13 | dcordes | did the android.bin make freezes? |
21:42.14 | Red_Devil | no |
21:42.17 | Red_Devil | it looked like that |
21:42.28 | Red_Devil | but it also crashess |
21:42.30 | dcordes | any other differences observed? |
21:42.54 | Red_Devil | i'm trying android.bin now |
21:43.30 | Red_Devil | touch screen works better in android.bin |
21:43.50 | dcordes | Red_Devil: there is an android initrd posted in the forum which you can use to get online. but that depends on whether or not your provider id is in that image's table. |
21:44.00 | dcordes | ok so we will keep android.bin |
21:44.18 | Red_Devil | phonecalls do not work with android.bin |
21:44.28 | Red_Devil | strange |
21:44.32 | Red_Devil | moment |
21:44.32 | Red_Devil | reset |
21:44.34 | Red_Devil | and i try again |
21:44.54 | tmzt_mp900c | yes, sysvipc is enabled but you need an ext2 or tmpfs on /dev/shm |
21:45.01 | Red_Devil | i'm connected by hi in the neterlands |
21:45.05 | tmzt_mp900c | no more shmfs in 2.6 |
21:45.14 | Red_Devil | netherlands* |
21:45.58 | BabelO_ | 20 updates, 20 root password :( |
21:47.29 | Red_Devil | ok |
21:47.36 | Red_Devil | if i call to the device running android.bin |
21:47.50 | Red_Devil | the phone is ringing but nothing happens |
21:48.14 | cr2 | esata is faster :) |
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21:48.31 | dcordes | Red_Devil: I bet if you'd reboot and try a bit you could get the same in the other initrd |
21:49.14 | dcordes | and you won't find out unless you decompile the phone application and all |
21:49.41 | dcordes | Red_Devil: maybe you can try around and suggest what image to use best :) |
21:49.58 | wasup | so what is the sucject you guys are on? and what device? |
21:50.40 | Red_Devil | if i can help i will |
21:50.45 | Red_Devil | so i'll try ;) |
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21:51.17 | Red_Devil | but they are both crashing after a few minutes playiing |
21:51.21 | Red_Devil | playing* |
21:51.23 | dcordes | wasup: which initrd is the best to use?, kaiser |
21:53.45 | BabelO_ | cr2: do you have an idea why now we can turn icon on the desktop with kde4 ? |
21:54.42 | dcordes | looks like kde said bye to minimalist :) |
21:55.01 | dcordes | I've been using gnome and now I only have fluxbox |
21:55.10 | Red_Devil | !fluxbox++ |
21:55.14 | Red_Devil | ;) |
21:56.52 | cr2 | BabelO_: i don't have kde4 |
21:57.10 | BabelO_ | cr2: i try it :) .... |
21:58.02 | wasup | um... |
21:58.38 | wasup | probably the one that dzo released... for the vogue... atleast on my titan the onscreen keyboard works |
21:58.43 | Red_Devil | ok outgoing call also work in android.bin |
21:58.54 | wasup | oh intrid |
21:58.59 | wasup | mybad |
21:59.29 | wasup | umm.... hmm... I'm using the angstrom one off the linux kaiser site |
21:59.58 | Red_Devil | http://linuxtogo.org/~lgorris/kaiser-bootkit/ |
21:59.59 | Red_Devil | this one |
22:00.22 | Red_Devil | dcordes: both initrd's freeze |
22:00.38 | Red_Devil | i'll try to replace my windows rom with another one |
22:00.55 | wasup | umm... what part freezes? |
22:00.56 | Red_Devil | to see if it will help |
22:01.03 | Red_Devil | if i'm playing around |
22:01.17 | Red_Devil | if i try to start maps it freezes |
22:01.30 | wasup | the android one freezes? |
22:01.33 | Red_Devil | if i'm sliding the kinky slide thing from the top of the screen to the bottom |
22:01.35 | wasup | or the angstreom |
22:01.40 | Red_Devil | both are freezing |
22:01.49 | wasup | have you tried dzo's |
22:01.57 | Red_Devil | i tried this one |
22:02.02 | Red_Devil | http://linuxtogo.org/~lgorris/kaiser-bootkit/android.bin |
22:02.04 | Red_Devil | and |
22:02.17 | Red_Devil | http://it029000.massey.ac.nz/vogue/ |
22:02.19 | Red_Devil | this one |
22:02.34 | wasup | did you get the one in the android.zip? |
22:02.40 | wasup | on the vogue site? |
22:02.41 | ginge | lo |
22:02.55 | wasup | it runs fine on my titan... |
22:03.04 | Red_Devil | ok |
22:03.05 | wasup | and doesnt freeze. |
22:03.11 | Red_Devil | i have a kaiser |
22:03.27 | wasup | if you get the android.bin i think its older then the one that comes in the zip |
22:03.42 | Red_Devil | the one in the zip file is called intird.bin ? |
22:03.47 | wasup | yeah.. |
22:03.51 | Red_Devil | ok |
22:03.56 | Red_Devil | try'ed that one yesterday |
22:04.02 | Red_Devil | let's try it again |
22:04.07 | wasup | i'm pretty sure... use all the stuff just change your zImage |
22:04.42 | wasup | does the kaiser have SD capabilities? |
22:06.22 | Red_Devil | es |
22:06.24 | Red_Devil | yes |
22:06.30 | Red_Devil | i'm running from my sd card |
22:06.56 | ginge | Red_Devil: the kaiser sd driver is buggy. it makes android lockup |
22:07.12 | wasup | ever since he updated the zip with the new data and system files.. my titan runs without freezing |
22:07.25 | wasup | but i never really run it for longer then 15 minutes |
22:07.30 | Red_Devil | ok |
22:07.45 | ginge | wasup: your drevice is much closer to the voogue than the kaiseer. |
22:07.51 | wasup | ginge: any new zImages? |
22:08.09 | wasup | really? |
22:08.12 | ginge | wasup: sorry, no. I amm just int he middlle of moving house |
22:08.17 | wasup | its cool |
22:08.19 | wasup | jw |
22:08.27 | wasup | hows the moving going? |
22:08.39 | Red_Devil | if i can try something |
22:08.42 | ginge | wasup: not too bad. its really hot here so I am nearly cooked :) |
22:08.44 | Red_Devil | let me now |
22:08.59 | wasup | hot? where i'm at its 115... |
22:09.00 | wasup | no joke |
22:09.10 | wasup | farenheit |
22:09.11 | ginge | wasup: wow. I can't really complain. |
22:09.20 | wasup | i live in a desert |
22:09.40 | ginge | wasup: thats not for me. I would turn to ash |
22:10.11 | wasup | Red_Devil: if uve already tried the angstrom and the android.zip initrids.. i dont really have any ideas |
22:10.23 | wasup | ginge: i already turned to ash |
22:10.27 | tmzt_mp900c | dcordes: they aren't using the one with patched fb, right? |
22:10.53 | tmzt_mp900c | zImage |
22:10.58 | ginge | tmzt_mp900c: did dcordes merge those? |
22:11.17 | tmzt_mp900c | from yesterday, I hope not, it won't work for android |
22:11.18 | Red_Devil | i mean i will try to help you guys try;ing getting something stable ;) |
22:11.34 | ginge | Red_Devil: can you code? |
22:12.04 | Red_Devil | not realy |
22:12.24 | Red_Devil | i can php |
22:12.33 | Red_Devil | but c is a bridge to far |
22:12.34 | ginge | Red_Devil: we all start somewhere. |
22:12.55 | dcordes | tmzt_mp900c: no patched fb zImage didn't go to the linuxtogo website |
22:13.10 | tmzt_mp900c | ok |
22:13.34 | tmzt_mp900c | is it just an android accel problem of some type? |
22:13.51 | dcordes | with the freezing? |
22:13.56 | tmzt_mp900c | yes |
22:13.59 | ginge | guesses dma |
22:14.14 | dcordes | ginge: should know more about it. doesn't it freeze when you try and get online? |
22:14.15 | tmzt_mp900c | yes, but mdp uses dma doesn't it? |
22:14.31 | ginge | tmzt_mp900c: yes, but the dma for the sd is screwed up somehow |
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22:14.50 | ginge | tmzt_mp900c: well, more likely irq triggering |
22:15.01 | tmzt_mp900c | oh, it just sounded like a graphics thing because he said it happens on the slide animation |
22:15.11 | Red_Devil | eehm |
22:15.19 | Red_Devil | yes and if i start some application |
22:15.24 | Red_Devil | doesn't matter what |
22:15.32 | Red_Devil | i can start the dialer oncce and it works |
22:15.35 | tmzt_mp900c | I am somewhat suprised that any of the android stuff works without gles |
22:15.35 | wasup | i still cant even get my titan online |
22:15.42 | Red_Devil | and if i'm starting it twice or for the third time |
22:15.44 | Red_Devil | is freezes |
22:15.57 | tmzt_mp900c | that would be the sd dma then, I guess |
22:16.08 | Red_Devil | ok |
22:16.20 | tmzt_mp900c | wasup: did you read the forum posts? |
22:16.35 | tmzt_mp900c | I think some in the vogue form where on titan |
22:17.33 | tmzt_mp900c | do you have the settings in the default.txt? |
22:17.46 | tmzt_mp900c | what carrier are you on |
22:18.32 | wasup | sprint |
22:19.10 | tmzt_mp900c | I am sure some got it working, do you know you username and password from the sprint website? |
22:20.06 | tmzt_mp900c | some used that I think |
22:20.15 | wasup | i can get my username for data... but i cant get the password |
22:20.19 | wasup | and the sprint site... |
22:20.23 | wasup | they took that info off |
22:20.36 | tmzt_mp900c | no, what you login to that site with |
22:20.55 | tmzt_mp900c | dcordes: can you give him the vogue link, its on my pc |
22:21.08 | tmzt_mp900c | android thread |
22:21.09 | dcordes | forum or university? |
22:21.11 | dcordes | ok |
22:23.28 | dcordes | microsoft paid xda devs to remove the sticky state :) |
22:23.38 | dcordes | http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=382265 |
22:25.13 | cr2 | dcordes: i think it was htc :) |
22:28.38 | wasup | r u sereious? |
22:28.59 | wasup | serios* |
22:29.05 | wasup | serious* |
22:29.08 | wasup | hahaha |
22:30.04 | dcordes | don't know. but I liked the linux threads being sticky because I found them quickly |
22:30.45 | wasup | does anyone know who actually owns xda? |
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22:31.20 | tmzt_mp900c | o2?, there's a non htc xda device on engadget mobile |
22:32.13 | tmzt_mp900c | add to wiki for each device? |
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22:33.25 | dcordes | tmzt_mp900c: not sure what you mean |
22:33.49 | tmzt_mp900c | should somebody add a link to the android thread on the wiki |
22:34.05 | tmzt_mp900c | for each device |
22:34.11 | ginge | they got bribed? |
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22:36.48 | marajin | ineffective chipset coolers ftl |
22:39.06 | wasup | how much do you think microsoft/htc paid? |
22:41.38 | marajin | It would appear to be owned by some german company |
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22:42.31 | marajin | who seem to deal with making encrypted phones o.o; |
22:42.50 | wasup | sounds hight tec |
22:42.54 | wasup | tech* |
22:45.31 | marajin | the whois data says it's registered to nah6.com crypto dv and nah6.com redirects to cryptophone.de |
22:52.24 | wasup | oh.... |
22:52.36 | wasup | hmm... crazy. |
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23:05.08 | dcordes | ginge: http://linuxtogo.org/~htcpxa/htcblueangel/ |
23:05.15 | dcordes | ginge: if you boot to a shell, I think you can make a nice bluetooth ap from it |
23:06.06 | ginge | looks good. thanks |
23:06.13 | wasup | for what phone? |
23:06.24 | ginge | blueangel |
23:07.00 | dcordes | most recent build is qtopia |
23:07.23 | ginge | do any of those allow calls? |
23:08.15 | dcordes | yea the qtopia one works for me |
23:08.47 | dcordes | quite well even. you should avoid using the keyboard though. there are driver problems that make it get stuck |
23:09.11 | ginge | sounds easy enough to fix, no? |
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23:16.20 | dcordes_ | quite well even. you should avoid using the keyboard though. there are driver problems that make it get stuck |
23:16.26 | dcordes_ | and if you have board id 6, do not suspend, because the display init is broken |
23:16.52 | ginge | oh, hmm |
23:17.00 | ginge | needs a litte polish then? |
23:32.58 | marajin | huh, my kaiser thinks it's connected to two seperate GPRS things at once? O.o |
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23:34.19 | marajin | I think all the abuse it's taken with linux porting tests have finally driven t mad |