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| 07:42.00 | BabelO_ | ~morning all |
| 07:42.01 | apt | ACTION bends space and time, trapping all in a universe of eternal monday mornings |
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| 07:59.45 | kiozen | wonders why apt is so mean |
| 08:18.04 | BabelO_ | kiozen: i just try gpsvp on artemis ;) and windows xp |
| 08:20.05 | kiozen | BabelO_: bah, vector maps, who needs it ;) |
| 08:20.43 | kiozen | btw does it have routing? |
| 08:21.02 | BabelO_ | kiozen: yes routing , raster map too |
| 08:21.22 | kiozen | on garmin img files? |
| 08:21.31 | BabelO_ | kiozen: http://gpsvp.garminmapsearch.com/ |
| 08:21.56 | BabelO_ | kiozen: sorry it is just traffic not routing |
| 08:23.22 | kiozen | bad luck for cr2, no nod/net decoding |
| 08:23.54 | cr2 | morning |
| 08:24.01 | BabelO_ | kiozen: is it so different from traffic node ? |
| 08:24.13 | BabelO_ | morning cr2 |
| 08:24.31 | cr2 | yes, libgarmin is the best when it comes to decoding. but completely undocumented. |
| 08:24.48 | kiozen | cr2: aren't we used to that? |
| 08:25.05 | kiozen | and you don't read docs anyway |
| 08:25.23 | cr2 | BabelO_: how does it manage memory for .img ? |
| 08:25.39 | cr2 | kiozen: it's bad when the code is written, but never called. |
| 08:26.09 | cr2 | kiozen: i don't have a problem with the code that is undocumented, but used. see .asm :) |
| 08:26.09 | BabelO_ | cr2: i tell you that in few minutes, currently getting img files |
| 08:26.23 | cr2 | ok. |
| 08:27.01 | kiozen | cr2: yes, one day I have to play with libgarmin... |
| 08:27.07 | cr2 | BabelO_: i think that the gpsvp code can be better structured, and the .img handling made a library. |
| 08:27.49 | cr2 | kiozen: libgarmin is programmed in a strange way too. |
| 08:28.10 | kiozen | yes, it's C |
| 08:28.37 | cr2 | kiozen: gpsvp uses gdiplus and does other strange things. gdal is so much better :) |
| 08:29.06 | cr2 | kiozen: C is ok when it's well written |
| 08:29.57 | kiozen | hehe, libgarmin in C but written in an object oriented way. like GTK |
| 08:30.17 | kiozen | I always wonder why they don't use c++ in this case |
| 08:30.41 | kiozen | as doing it the object oriented in the C way really sucks |
| 08:31.01 | cr2 | yeah. old-school hackers. |
| 08:31.20 | cr2 | use C :) |
| 08:31.28 | kiozen | hm, more evangelists |
| 08:31.28 | cr2 | for all tasks. |
| 08:31.36 | cr2 | lol |
| 08:31.51 | cr2 | i find qt4 a necessary evil, btw. |
| 08:32.41 | cr2 | i didn't find split() in stdc++, it's only in java and QString. |
| 08:32.47 | kiozen | i think it's perfect, every other similar way with that quality will produce similar code |
| 08:33.02 | cr2 | it was nice that tsdogs has written a C version :) |
| 08:33.59 | cr2 | yes, qt4 is very good. it has all advantages of java without virtual machine and garbage collection. |
| 08:33.59 | kiozen | yes for that kind of stuff I always use basic ANSI C libs |
| 08:34.19 | kiozen | unless QString is availbale anyway |
| 08:34.32 | kiozen | but even then strtok is still an option |
| 08:35.28 | cr2 | strtok is non-obvious function with strange side effects. |
| 08:35.55 | cr2 | destroys the original string, and is non-reentrant. |
| 08:36.10 | kiozen | as select(), but once you know how to handle it's very efficient |
| 08:36.33 | cr2 | and strdup() is non-ansi, so strtok becomes a real PITA. |
| 08:37.13 | kiozen | not for tokenize ASCII protocolls on TCP/IP (what I do quite often) |
| 08:37.24 | cr2 | yes, but it's too lowlevel. |
| 08:37.27 | cr2 | lol |
| 08:37.40 | BabelO_ | cr2: what do you mean ? split is available in qt |
| 08:37.56 | cr2 | BabelO_: yes, but not in stdc++ |
| 08:38.12 | cr2 | BabelO_: i've said only qt and java. |
| 08:38.14 | BabelO_ | cr2: it is in awk too, so it is a standard ;) |
| 08:38.33 | cr2 | BabelO_: yes, that's why i always want it :) |
| 08:38.43 | kiozen | std::string sucks, never have seen such a bad half cooked string class |
| 08:39.14 | cr2 | kiozen: std::strings looks like being written by fortran programmers. |
| 08:39.21 | kiozen | LOL |
| 08:39.37 | cr2 | heh. it has the same capabilities. |
| 08:39.57 | kiozen | it's more written by a big company and abandoned at half of it's birth |
| 08:41.01 | cr2 | qstring is done right. |
| 08:41.11 | cr2 | i wish there was a C version. |
| 08:41.54 | kiozen | you can write a C interface :P |
| 08:42.13 | cr2 | :D |
| 08:42.15 | cr2 | later. |
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| 11:30.44 | dcordes | marbalon: hi |
| 11:31.04 | marbalon | dcordes: hi |
| 11:31.39 | dcordes | marbalon: I tried what you said about the hang in the forum. worked one time, then same again. |
| 11:32.10 | dcordes | and I booted your zImage with matrix keyboard. I was able to press some keys. Android also showd reaction. But then panic |
| 11:33.04 | marbalon | dcordes: it's hand after some key pressed, I tested it on linux box |
| 11:33.15 | marbalon | *hang |
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| 11:33.36 | Sliss | who has a bleuangel? |
| 11:33.41 | dcordes | marbalon: can you say again how you boot? |
| 11:33.53 | Sliss | with the latest qtopia? |
| 11:34.21 | dcordes | Sliss: I'm not speaking of BA n'either of qtopia |
| 11:35.07 | Sliss | yes i know... but I am asking |
| 11:35.33 | Sliss | is there a known problem with the suspend mode? |
| 11:35.53 | Sliss | after a suspend I get only a white screen |
| 11:35.59 | dcordes | Sliss: I have a BA with arecent qtopia, yes. And I do have problems with resume from suspend: screen fades to white |
| 11:36.10 | dcordes | this is because you have board id 6 |
| 11:36.34 | Sliss | ah ok well I just disable suspend then |
| 11:36.49 | dcordes | we have to wait for somebody to create a new driver |
| 11:37.01 | dcordes | til then better disable yea |
| 11:37.22 | marbalon | dcordes:I have all files on internal storage and just before I run android I copy initrd-android from SD to internal storage. that's all |
| 11:38.33 | dcordes | marbalon: do you overwrite the old one? |
| 11:38.33 | marbalon | yes |
| 11:38.33 | dcordes | let me try that again.... |
| 11:40.42 | dcordes | marbalon: do you boot after you turn kaiser on? |
| 11:41.38 | marbalon | dcordes: yes, just after reset |
| 11:41.53 | Sliss | is there a known problem with the microphone? when I call the receiver doesn't hear me and in the phone settings I can't seam to change the microphone's loudness |
| 11:44.02 | dcordes | Sliss: fire up a terminal. Go to alsamixer, set microphone switch something from internal to external. |
| 11:44.16 | Sliss | ah thx |
| 11:46.16 | Sliss | oops i presses an s on the small keyboard and now it is repeating whatever i type! |
| 11:46.20 | dcordes | marbalon: ok rebooted, copied over initrd-android replacing the old one.. |
| 11:46.38 | dcordes | Sliss: that's the 'normal' ba keyboard error |
| 11:46.48 | dcordes | no fix for that yet |
| 11:46.57 | Sliss | can I stop it? |
| 11:47.15 | dcordes | no. keyboard driver is a kernel builtin so you can't reload the moduÃle |
| 11:47.20 | Sliss | aah never mind system hanged ;-) |
| 11:51.49 | dcordes | Sliss: in case it's only the system :) |
| 11:51.56 | dcordes | why worry |
| 11:52.18 | dcordes | marbalon: hanged again. |
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| 11:54.38 | marbalon | hmm.. I have no idea, maybe try enable haret logging (earlyharetlog.txt)... |
| 11:55.42 | marbalon | someone wrote this solution on forum, I have this file to... maybe combined with my trick works... |
| 11:57.53 | dcordes | ok will try combo |
| 11:58.12 | dcordes | not so scientific all that :D |
| 11:58.40 | marbalon | that's true |
| 11:58.42 | dcordes | marbalon: dzo said I shall try earlyprintk or so. but since linux doesn't print anything to the fb..... |
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| 12:00.07 | marbalon | dcordes: when your kaiser hangs, what is the last screen ?? full progress bar ?? |
| 12:00.15 | dcordes | full progress bar. |
| 12:00.23 | dcordes | (fb untouched) |
| 12:00.47 | cr2 | dcordes: i'll do the lcd spi for n560, so baordid6 will work too. |
| 12:00.58 | BabelO_ | cr2, kiozen : http://linuxbox2.free.fr/blueangel/gpsvp/ |
| 12:01.04 | marbalon | like in my kaiser (before trick ;) |
| 12:01.21 | dcordes | cr2: nice. bitbangin driver? |
| 12:01.39 | cr2 | BabelO_: ascii only ?? |
| 12:01.44 | cr2 | dcordes: yes. |
| 12:02.06 | dcordes | marbalon: with the combo it worked now :) see the knight rider |
| 12:02.18 | marbalon | ;) |
| 12:02.38 | marbalon | that was simple ;) |
| 12:02.45 | dcordes | well now... let me reconstruct it |
| 12:02.55 | dcordes | hanged after two button presses |
| 12:02.56 | BabelO_ | cr2: lok at google maps,i m at the right place inside the building ;) |
| 12:03.06 | dcordes | marbalon: can you release your keyboard source code? |
| 12:03.29 | cr2 | BabelO_: i guess google will block your ip RSN :) |
| 12:03.35 | marbalon | dcordes: Yes but not now (@work) |
| 12:03.40 | dcordes | ok |
| 12:03.43 | BabelO_ | cr2: already done yesturday ;) |
| 12:03.47 | cr2 | LOL |
| 12:04.37 | marbalon | dcordes: I think hang problem is not driver problem, i testes it witch initrd-linux and i can write all the time |
| 12:04.45 | BabelO_ | cr2: i just see there is some nice swimming pool around ;) |
| 12:05.07 | dcordes | marbalon: ok. please release code ;) |
| 12:05.10 | marbalon | dcordes: enter linux cmd etc. |
| 12:05.24 | cr2 | BabelO_: the best way is to hijack the tiles from firefox. but i don't know how to do it in a reasonable way. |
| 12:05.24 | dcordes | or patch. and can you give me that initrd-linux? |
| 12:05.48 | marbalon | it is on the forum, one moment please... |
| 12:06.05 | dcordes | cr2: there are bash scripts for dl google maps maps |
| 12:06.20 | cr2 | dcordes: not really. |
| 12:06.42 | dcordes | cr2: trust me |
| 12:06.48 | dcordes | I've seen that |
| 12:06.59 | cr2 | long ago. |
| 12:07.02 | dcordes | you could set the resolution and everything |
| 12:07.08 | dcordes | yes that was a year ago |
| 12:07.18 | dcordes | they disabled this? |
| 12:07.23 | cr2 | not _so easy_ anymore. |
| 12:07.31 | cr2 | yes |
| 12:07.42 | marbalon | dcordes:http://www.sendspace.pl/file/6Ojr72Cb/ |
| 12:07.48 | dcordes | marbalon: thanks |
| 12:08.20 | cr2 | dcordes: for the 15/30 m/pix landsat data you don't need google. |
| 12:08.46 | cr2 | you can just grab them as huge .ecw files directly from nasa. |
| 12:09.05 | cr2 | and reprocess as you wish. |
| 12:09.18 | dcordes | are they free? |
| 12:09.22 | cr2 | yes. |
| 12:11.46 | dcordes | cr2: can you give me a link (just curious) |
| 12:12.42 | cr2 | https://zulu.ssc.nasa.gov/mrsid |
| 12:13.19 | dcordes | thanks |
| 12:17.39 | dcordes | cr2: hmm no sight seeing ;( |
| 12:21.56 | BabelO_ | cr2: http://maps.live.com/?q=&mkt=fr-fr&scope=&FORM=LIVSOP do you know this one ? |
| 12:23.48 | cr2 | BabelO_: does it work in firefox ? |
| 12:24.04 | BabelO_ | cr2: yes i m running with firefox only ;) |
| 12:24.14 | cr2 | on linux ? |
| 12:24.43 | BabelO_ | cr2: ah, it is microsoft website ;) i ll check on home computer, wait ;) |
| 12:29.30 | BabelO_ | cr2: i confirm, it works |
| 12:29.50 | BabelO_ | cr2: there is a banner developer on bottom right |
| 12:33.00 | dcordes | have a shell on kaiser |
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| 12:33.45 | marbalon | dcordes: and keyboard works fine ? |
| 12:33.53 | dcordes | marbalon: just perfectly. |
| 12:34.23 | dcordes | I had to use the combo trick though to boot: I just renamed your shell initrd to initrd-android and copied it over again |
| 12:34.26 | marbalon | my driver is only correct mapping for standard gpio_matrix keyboard |
| 12:34.27 | dcordes | overwriting the old one |
| 12:34.53 | dcordes | marbalon: yes I know. you lack the extra keys like arrow. did you see my forum post about it? they use different irq |
| 12:35.19 | marbalon | I have no definition about irqs |
| 12:35.40 | dcordes | http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Kaiser_IRQ |
| 12:35.58 | dcordes | http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Kaiser_CPLD , GPIO etc.. |
| 12:36.12 | cr2 | BabelO_: strange. does not work for me. |
| 12:36.51 | dcordes | marbalon: is the initrd loaded to ram or do we access it on the nand? |
| 12:37.42 | BabelO_ | cr2: which firefox ? 1.5 or 2.0 ? |
| 12:37.48 | marbalon | dcordes: initrd it's the android initrd without android |
| 12:37.49 | cr2 | works now. |
| 12:38.24 | BabelO_ | cr2: it is like others microsoft website, slow slow |
| 12:38.59 | dcordes | marbalon: it's just gzipped isn't it? |
| 12:39.22 | marbalon | ungzip && cpio |
| 12:39.37 | dcordes | marbalon: how to reverse that? |
| 12:39.46 | cr2 | BabelO_: does not switch to sat. m$ sux, nothing new. |
| 12:40.22 | cr2 | BabelO_: with vmap0 quality. |
| 12:40.58 | dcordes | cr2: you think I can boot an angstrom console-image with that? |
| 12:41.02 | marbalon | cpio && gzip ;), moment I cant remember I found some info in google |
| 12:41.04 | BabelO_ | cr2: i think google do some picture enhancement, it is not the original picture, on french geoportail, quality is lower |
| 12:46.06 | dcordes | cr2: hmm no sight seeing ;( |
| 12:47.51 | dcordes | oops |
| 12:53.52 | dcordes | Ãbbl |
| 12:56.51 | kiozen | BabelO_: you can truncate the color hostogram on both sides, that will increase the contrast and color |
| 12:57.12 | kiozen | s/hostogram/hIstogram/ |
| 12:58.59 | cr2 | kiozen: with imagemagick ? |
| 13:01.49 | BabelO_ | kiozen: yes, and a gauss filter maybe |
| 13:02.24 | BabelO_ | cr2: gpsvp is veryvery slow on device :( more more slower ... gisrussa is quick fast on same maps |
| 13:02.42 | BabelO_ | s/quick/quite |
| 13:03.12 | cr2 | BabelO_: it uses a different binary data format. |
| 13:03.35 | cr2 | undocumented, but it's certainly not worth to break it. |
| 13:04.20 | BabelO_ | cr2: even on universal it is slow, so not the cpu performance |
| 13:07.34 | cr2 | BabelO_: at least it does not use OLE/COM and such weird m$ stuff |
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| 14:50.42 | kiozen | c2: ? |
| 14:53.15 | BabelO_ | kiozen: are your QLandkarteM sources up to date ? |
| 14:53.42 | kiozen | BabelO_: svn is in sync |
| 14:54.08 | BabelO_ | kiozen: ok, i think i understand why your windows are transparent ;) |
| 14:54.23 | cr2 | wtf is gnet-2.0 ? |
| 14:54.36 | kiozen | BabelO_: ok? |
| 14:55.22 | kiozen | cr2: is there a way to replace the datum by spheroid param in proj4? |
| 14:55.56 | kiozen | I have got the major x axis and the inverse flatening |
| 14:56.56 | cr2 | kiozen: +a= and +b= |
| 14:57.24 | cr2 | if you don't like/have +ellps= |
| 14:57.35 | kiozen | ok i try with the values from gdals mitab tables |
| 14:57.49 | cr2 | add the +towgs84= too |
| 14:58.20 | cr2 | hmm. maybe it's possible to use +f=, i'll check |
| 14:58.36 | kiozen | by that the wizzard would need the projection (merc, tmerc, utm) and a,b, towgs84 |
| 14:59.17 | kiozen | ok and a zone |
| 14:59.46 | cr2 | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:00.08 | kiozen | a = axis, b=flatening ? |
| 15:00.35 | cr2 | utm is tmerc, unless you are in this funny 35 zone. |
| 15:00.39 | cr2 | no. |
| 15:00.46 | cr2 | a is major axis |
| 15:00.51 | cr2 | b is minor. |
| 15:01.05 | cr2 | b=a(1-f) |
| 15:01.15 | cr2 | f=1/298..... |
| 15:01.39 | cr2 | a=6379137 for wgs84 |
| 15:02.47 | kiozen | utm is _a_ tmerc projection, but zones can be different, utm=6 degree GK=3degree |
| 15:03.15 | cr2 | it depends on the country. |
| 15:03.26 | cr2 | use +lon_0= |
| 15:04.04 | Raven_coda | Is there a git repo for the himalaya? |
| 15:04.04 | kiozen | yes, if it's not utm you have to use +lon_0 and +x_0 |
| 15:04.13 | cr2 | check /usr/(local/)share/proj/epsg and ph3ar :) |
| 15:04.15 | cr2 | ok. |
| 15:04.46 | cr2 | but you can cover utm with generic tmerc |
| 15:04.55 | kiozen | but that will get complicated==confusing again :/ |
| 15:05.06 | kiozen | utm is easy |
| 15:05.20 | kiozen | but every tmerc is too much for a noob |
| 15:05.54 | kiozen | but let's start with the datum / towgs stuff |
| 15:05.57 | cr2 | agreed. |
| 15:05.58 | cr2 | ok. |
| 15:06.51 | kiozen | is waiting for the day you can show the map to the pc and you get the right proj string |
| 15:07.14 | cr2 | but the mi datum list is covered by doing +ellps= +togws84= |
| 15:07.47 | cr2 | i wish there was a +init=mi:NNNN in addition to +init=epsg:MMMM |
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| 15:08.14 | cr2 | but it's blasphemy :) |
| 15:08.28 | cr2 | proj4 should not depend on ogr/mitab |
| 15:08.58 | kiozen | I will use the asDatumInfoList and the values from asSpeheroidInfoList |
| 15:09.23 | kiozen | I simply copied the tables to GT |
| 15:09.56 | cr2 | yes. |
| 15:11.56 | kiozen | BabelO_ so, what is that transparent thingy? |
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| 15:13.03 | BabelO_ | kiozen: as you start qlandkarteM alone, transparent value is black, because none is background |
| 15:13.17 | BabelO_ | just need to change the BGMode or the parent of the window |
| 15:13.38 | kiozen | ahhhhhh! Ok i'll try this evening :) thanks! |
| 15:14.48 | Raven_coda | How about just the touchscreen files, does anyone know where I can git the touchscreen drivers for the himalaya? |
| 15:15.17 | dcordes | handhelds.org ? |
| 15:15.24 | cr2 | Raven_coda: himalaya ? |
| 15:15.33 | Raven_coda | I browsed there a nit and didn't see it |
| 15:15.38 | cr2 | Raven_coda: it's the same driver as blueangel |
| 15:15.44 | Raven_coda | tsc2200? |
| 15:16.22 | cr2 | himalaya is 90% ba. without spi keyboard and wifi. but with funny asic5 for bt uart. |
| 15:16.24 | cr2 | yes. |
| 15:16.46 | cr2 | Raven_coda: you have himalaya ? |
| 15:17.06 | dcordes | Raven_coda, http://handhelds.org/cgi-bin/cvsweb.cgi/linux/kernel26/arch/arm/mach-pxa/htchimalaya/ |
| 15:17.08 | Raven_coda | no, but I beleive the kaiser touch screen is closer to tsc2200 then tsc2003 |
| 15:17.56 | dcordes | http://handhelds.org/cgi-bin/cvsweb.cgi/linux/kernel26/drivers/input/touchscreen/ |
| 15:18.02 | cr2 | kiozen: i've decided to finish lcd spi and bt. then send n560 to you. for resume i only need to analyze the SPL .asm |
| 15:18.13 | Raven_coda | thx dcordes |
| 15:18.19 | dcordes | de nada |
| 15:18.20 | cr2 | Raven_coda: it#s unlikely |
| 15:18.24 | Raven_coda | why so? |
| 15:18.41 | cr2 | Raven_coda: there are 2 choices. MSM ADC port, or TSC2003 i2c. |
| 15:18.45 | Raven_coda | from the looks of it direction keys are controled by touchscreen |
| 15:18.57 | kiozen | cr2: ok, as you wish :) It's not up to my decission |
| 15:18.59 | Raven_coda | tsc2200 isn't i2c? |
| 15:19.33 | Raven_coda | kaiser touchscreen is i2c at address 0x48 |
| 15:19.55 | cr2 | kiozen: i'm mostly looking at the .asm recently. |
| 15:20.12 | cr2 | Raven_coda: tsc2200 is spi. |
| 15:20.29 | Raven_coda | tsc2003 driver is able to init the device and get X and Y info correctly but the pressure (Z1) is way not even close |
| 15:20.32 | cr2 | Raven_coda: id=0x24 ? |
| 15:20.35 | Raven_coda | darn, |
| 15:20.55 | Raven_coda | no, I'm sure it's 0x48 |
| 15:21.02 | kiozen | ok, in the end it just has to work, if there is one 100% working model it's easier to talk others to follow |
| 15:21.21 | BabelO_ | kiozen: where is the window creation ? cpp file ? |
| 15:21.53 | kiozen | BabelO_: CCanvas is the base window |
| 15:22.15 | kiozen | else most windows have IWidget as base |
| 15:22.18 | cr2 | Raven_coda: can you see the i2c data traffic with mmutrace ? |
| 15:22.25 | Raven_coda | OEM_misc.dll had no identifing marks in it, is there any other place I can look to try and tell for sure what type of ts the kaiser has |
| 15:22.29 | Raven_coda | yes |
| 15:22.49 | Raven_coda | I can even trace to vogue ts driver dzo made |
| 15:22.52 | BabelO_ | kiozen: ok |
| 15:23.04 | cr2 | Raven_coda: touch.dll ? |
| 15:23.27 | Raven_coda | it polls the device and I can conferm the x and y pos it gets are from touch screen |
| 15:23.53 | cr2 | Raven_coda: does tsc2003 have id 0x48 ? |
| 15:24.06 | Raven_coda | that's what dzo said |
| 15:24.57 | Raven_coda | no touch.dll in windows dir |
| 15:25.28 | cr2 | lsmod in haret ? |
| 15:26.38 | cr2 | Raven_coda: hmm |
| 15:26.41 | cr2 | GetXY_TSC2003: Perform Z2 Read ID:0x%x FAIL |
| 15:26.41 | cr2 | GetXY_TSC2003: Perform Z1 Read ID:0x%x FAIL |
| 15:26.41 | cr2 | GetXY_TSC2003: Perform Read ID:0x%x FAIL |
| 15:26.41 | cr2 | GetXY_TSC2003: FAIL dwI2CFailRetry=%d |
| 15:26.41 | cr2 | GetXY_TSC2003: Perform Write ID:0x%x, ADDR:0x%x FAIL |
| 15:27.25 | cr2 | i don't know about the purpose of these MSM ADC refs: |
| 15:27.28 | cr2 | TSSC_STATUS=0x%x |
| 15:27.28 | cr2 | TSSC_CTL=0x%x |
| 15:27.28 | cr2 | InitTSSC |
| 15:28.00 | cr2 | wtf is TFLO ? |
| 15:28.01 | Raven_coda | lsmod does list touch.dll |
| 15:28.08 | Raven_coda | so I'll have to go find it |
| 15:28.17 | cr2 | testwm5.exe |
| 15:28.38 | cr2 | of pick the nbh |
| 15:28.47 | cr2 | s/of/or/ |
| 15:28.59 | Raven_coda | TFLO = touchflo |
| 15:29.54 | cr2 | what is that ? i'm not an MBA in marketing :) |
| 15:30.36 | Raven_coda | allows scrolling by sliding figure acrross screen |
| 15:30.58 | cr2 | so it's ts-related. |
| 15:31.09 | cr2 | just some software on top of ts. |
| 15:31.09 | Raven_coda | yes |
| 15:31.12 | cr2 | ok. |
| 15:31.26 | Raven_coda | yeah just software I beleive |
| 15:31.44 | Raven_coda | where did you get that "Get XY_TSC2003:" info from |
| 15:31.51 | cr2 | touch.dll |
| 15:32.09 | Raven_coda | ah |
| 15:32.47 | Raven_coda | looks like it's IDA time ;) |
| 15:33.06 | cr2 | lol |
| 15:33.36 | cr2 | linux development is 1/2 ida time ;) |
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| 16:43.28 | kiozen | BabelO_: background works in M, now :) |
| 16:45.31 | BabelO_ | coll perfect for me +10 pts for M :) |
| 16:46.46 | BabelO_ | s/coll/cool/ |
| 16:46.52 | BabelO_ | art apt |
| 16:46.57 | BabelO_ | ~lart apt |
| 16:46.57 | apt | decapitates babelo_ conan the destroyer style |
| 16:47.04 | BabelO_ | grhh |
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| 16:58.49 | dcordes | Raven_coda, found anything out? |
| 17:00.17 | Raven_coda | not, yet |
| 17:00.46 | Raven_coda | dzo's touch driver uses the pressure to determine if touched or not |
| 17:01.04 | Raven_coda | but kaiser doesn't display pressure like vogue does for some reason |
| 17:01.12 | dcordes | Raven_coda, do you know what kaiser touchscreen device name is? |
| 17:01.26 | Raven_coda | I'm trying to modify the driver to use the irq like it should anyway |
| 17:01.39 | Raven_coda | pretty sure it's a tsc2003 |
| 17:01.52 | Raven_coda | atleast that's what windows claims it is in touch.dll |
| 17:01.59 | dcordes | i see |
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| 17:11.21 | dcordes | pH5, hi can you help me making a console-image for kaiser? |
| 17:14.55 | pH5 | dcordes: sure, what do you need to know? |
| 17:15.07 | pH5 | (hi everyone) |
| 17:16.16 | dcordes | pH5, basically I don't know where to start |
| 17:17.00 | dcordes | I currently boot this http://it029000.massey.ac.nz/vogue/ |
| 17:17.17 | dcordes | we have all present drivers built in, no modules. |
| 17:17.39 | dcordes | I thought about just replacing the initrd with some console-image from zaurus or so |
| 17:18.25 | dcordes | android doesn't even have busybox as it seems |
| 17:19.04 | pH5 | dcordes: I'd say basically it's just "bitbake console-image" after setting up a machine configuration file for the kaiser and an empty kernel package. |
| 17:19.30 | dcordes | pH5, is there such an empty kernel package(recipe) ? |
| 17:20.18 | pH5 | dcordes: I had one, but it doesn't work anymore. let me fix that real quick.. |
| 17:20.34 | dcordes | great |
| 17:22.21 | dcordes | I wonder which arm instructions msm7200 does understand |
| 17:23.14 | pH5 | afaik 7200 have an arm1136ej-s core, that is armv6 |
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| 17:24.48 | dcordes | yes and phon has arm9 |
| 17:26.14 | pH5 | nokernel.bb: http://en.pastebin.ca/984916 |
| 17:26.23 | pH5 | at least it builds again |
| 17:26.30 | pH5 | 'builds' |
| 17:27.56 | dcordes | heh it's even gpl |
| 17:28.24 | pH5 | sure, kernel is gplv2 :) |
| 17:28.37 | dcordes | ^^ do I put that into packages/linux/? |
| 17:29.04 | pH5 | yes, and set PREFERRED_PROVIDER_virtual/kernel = "nokernel" in the machine conf file |
| 17:29.29 | dcordes | ok |
| 17:29.54 | dcordes | do you know which other archs armv6 understands? |
| 17:31.03 | pH5 | huh? armv6 is an instruction set |
| 17:31.33 | pH5 | ah, are you asking what to put into PACKAGE_EXTRA_ARCHS? |
| 17:31.42 | dcordes | right |
| 17:31.45 | pH5 | same as nokia800.conf, for example |
| 17:31.49 | dcordes | ok |
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| 17:37.21 | dcordes | pH5, which XSERVER shall I pick? |
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| 17:37.58 | pH5 | doesn't matter for a console image, right |
| 17:38.41 | pH5 | but once you get there, fbdev. unless somebody writes a special server for msm7k |
| 17:39.02 | dcordes | pH5, ok soft or hardfloat? |
| 17:39.16 | pH5 | does the lcd/framebuffer work now? |
| 17:39.56 | dcordes | pH5, yep |
| 17:40.21 | dcordes | android boots into an odd ui |
| 17:40.26 | pH5 | I'd copy the nokia800 settings, there's a FPU is in all arm11 processors, right? |
| 17:41.23 | dcordes | I'm doing that just doubble checking everything |
| 17:41.43 | dcordes | so FPU = hard? |
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| 17:41.55 | zyxell | hi all |
| 17:42.24 | pH5 | hi zyxell |
| 17:42.34 | pH5 | dcordes: I don't know, but my best guess is yes. |
| 17:43.35 | dcordes | pH5, the android-initrd thing is a cpio and gz packed file. is there such an image type in OE? I mean I could put any image type as long as I configured the kernel to build the fs support, right? but I would like to keep that so people in the forum can try the initrd |
| 17:43.52 | dcordes | w//o need of a new kernel |
| 17:44.18 | pH5 | yes, looks like the same options should work for both omap24xx and msm7k |
| 17:44.47 | pH5 | that's just the file system type, you can select that for example in machine.conf or local.conf |
| 17:45.17 | pH5 | IMAGE_FSTYPES = "tar.bz2 cpio.gz" |
| 17:45.20 | pH5 | for example |
| 17:45.39 | c4software | anybody have try to boot initdr-android on htc wizard ? |
| 17:45.55 | dcordes | ah cpio.gz is what I was looking for thanks. Is also the include file for arm11 valid for kaiser which nokia points to? |
| 17:45.58 | pH5 | not possible, android needs armv5 |
| 17:46.05 | pH5 | uh, stop, sorry |
| 17:46.12 | pH5 | omap850 is armv5? |
| 17:46.33 | dcordes | no idea |
| 17:46.38 | Raven_coda | yeah, it is |
| 17:46.39 | pH5 | yes |
| 17:46.51 | pH5 | arm926ej-s |
| 17:47.01 | c4software | oh no, no way to have ANdroid on wizard so :( ? |
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| 17:47.17 | pH5 | c4software: no, I was confused. could be possible |
| 17:47.59 | c4software | no :( |
| 17:49.03 | c4software | i can stop my test so... |
| 17:49.48 | dcordes | pH5, what about "include conf/machine/include/tune-arm1136jf-s.inc"? |
| 17:49.56 | dcordes | guess I can put that? |
| 17:50.46 | pH5 | wikipedia lists msm7200 as arm1136jf-s, so I'd include that |
| 17:50.56 | dcordes | great |
| 17:51.13 | dcordes | http://pastebin.ca/984960 |
| 17:51.30 | c4software | and no way, for an ANdroid Arm version ? |
| 17:52.55 | pH5 | dcordes: great, start the engines and if it turns out to work let's upload that to OE |
| 17:53.34 | dcordes | pH5, alright |
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| 17:54.12 | pH5 | don't worry though, it will break somewhere. this is org.oe.dev after all :) |
| 17:54.25 | pH5 | c4software: I don't understand. |
| 17:54.36 | pH5 | Android is compiled for ARM. |
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| 17:56.00 | dcordes | c4software, do you have haret on your wizard and a booting kernel for omap850 w/ working framebuffer? |
| 17:57.04 | dcordes | ~hail OE |
| 17:57.05 | apt | ACTION bows down to OE and chants, "I'M NOT WORTHY!!" |
| 17:57.27 | dcordes | an important point in history - first kaiser image is built with OE |
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| 17:59.50 | c4software | yes dcordes |
| 18:00.11 | dcordes | c4software, just try it out then. |
| 18:00.45 | c4software | but wehn i tried to boot with initdr-android i get this error : Image Too large (2481856-23118181) - largest size is 2516584 |
| 18:00.51 | dcordes | c4software, put this in your haret folder http://it029000.massey.ac.nz/vogue/initrd-android |
| 18:01.09 | dcordes | oh. try freeing some ram then |
| 18:01.15 | dcordes | or rip something off the image |
| 18:02.04 | c4software | on the initdr_android ? |
| 18:02.19 | dcordes | yes |
| 18:03.05 | dcordes | gunzip initrd-android.gz; cpio -i < initrd-android |
| 18:04.20 | c4software | Thanks (:)) |
| 18:05.51 | dcordes | pH5, why does oe want linux 2.6.21?? http://pastebin.ca/984981 |
| 18:05.51 | c4software | i redownload the image |
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| 18:06.54 | pH5 | hm. does bitbake virtual/kernel work? |
| 18:09.50 | dcordes | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:10.05 | dcordes | http://pastebin.ca/984987 |
| 18:11.06 | pH5 | for some reason it selects linux instead of nokernel as provider for virtual/kernel |
| 18:11.07 | c4software | i need to freeing 2mb in android image :S |
| 18:11.12 | pH5 | can you "bitbake nokernel"? |
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| 18:13.06 | dcordes | pH5, no bitbake doesn't find it although I have it in packages/kernel/nokernel.bb |
| 18:14.44 | pH5 | strange. I have it in packages/linux/nokernel.bb, but that shouldn't make a difference. |
| 18:15.09 | dcordes | I'm reparsing just to make sure |
| 18:15.18 | c4software | any idea removed 2MB of file in the image :P |
| 18:15.27 | c4software | remove example ? |
| 18:16.20 | dcordes | pH5, sorry also have nokernel.bb in packages/linux |
| 18:16.27 | dcordes | doesn't work after parse either |
| 18:17.37 | dcordes | c4software, *dalvik* lol |
| 18:18.18 | dcordes | c4software, data/app has 4mb |
| 18:18.57 | dcordes | wow android image even has a folder "drm" |
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| 18:20.45 | c4software | removed ^^ |
| 18:20.49 | dcordes | pH5, bitbake -b packages/linux/nokernel.bb works |
| 18:21.13 | c4software | dcordes: what is the command to rebuild the initdr image ? |
| 18:21.30 | dcordes | c4software, don't know. man cpio |
| 18:21.51 | dcordes | maybe your distro has a gui for that |
| 18:22.50 | c4software | okay i look that |
| 18:22.52 | c4software | ^^ |
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| 18:23.45 | dcordes | pH5, ug getting QA issues again http://pastebin.ca/984998 |
| 18:23.53 | pH5 | dcordes: ah, same here. try removing the "inherit kernel" from nokernel.bb, I get some strange missing depmod dependency otherwise. |
| 18:23.58 | dcordes | (building it with -b) |
| 18:24.08 | dcordes | yes have that too |
| 18:24.33 | pH5 | can't help with your QA issues, as I said, I don't see them |
| 18:25.16 | dcordes | what would be the less time consuming way to have this working? |
| 18:25.24 | dcordes | I don't want to reset _all_ OE |
| 18:26.16 | pH5 | there is a way to make those QA errors non-fatal, but I don't know how |
| 18:26.34 | dcordes | first I'm removing angstrom-tmp |
| 18:26.51 | dcordes | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:27.05 | pH5 | dcordes: you'd have to remove the generated packages for those offending recipes (gstreamer, etc.), too |
| 18:27.29 | dcordes | pH5, angstrom-tmp has everything |
| 18:27.30 | pH5 | never mind, deploy is inside tmp |
| 18:27.33 | pH5 | yes :) |
| 18:28.22 | pH5 | svn r1053 |
| 18:31.13 | dcordes | trunk is the latest? |
| 18:32.08 | pH5 | yes |
| 18:33.50 | dcordes | can I ignore the extra folders I get among 'bitbake' with the svn co? |
| 18:37.03 | BabelO | kiozen: hard hack ;) i look if opacity is settable |
| 18:38.13 | kiozen | BabelO: yes the life is tought :) but I would appreciate a smarter solution, too :) |
| 18:38.38 | kiozen | but at least it proves your idea right |
| 18:40.07 | cr2 | huh ? |
| 18:40.10 | cr2 | ** ERROR **: Failed to get bus name: Connection ":1.10257" is not allowed to own the service "org.synce.odccm" due to security policies in the configuration file |
| 18:41.27 | BabelO | kiozen: i learn some native Qt function from your code :) |
| 18:41.41 | BabelO | cr2: lol :) |
| 18:42.28 | BabelO | cr2: i start it by hand too ;) else, look in /usr/share/dbus-1/services |
| 18:43.44 | BabelO | kiozen: there is BGMode, but i don't know how to access it |
| 18:44.24 | cr2 | BabelO: it does not run as root since this dbug inclusion. |
| 18:45.16 | dcordes | pH5, :) This is a Bitbake from the Unstable/Development 1.9 Branch. This software contains gaping security holes and is dangerous to use! |
| 18:45.18 | dcordes | I'm done |
| 18:45.43 | cr2 | BabelO: what should i add there ? i can only see some weird files. |
| 18:45.53 | cr2 | org.freedesktop.xesam.searcher.service |
| 18:46.05 | cr2 | vandenoever.strigi.service |
| 18:46.10 | cr2 | whatever that means. |
| 18:46.10 | c4software | hop, i look the sythax of cpio in osx |
| 18:46.52 | BabelO | cr2: /etc/dbus-1/system.d/odccm.conf policy="root" |
| 18:48.01 | cr2 | Starting D-Bus daemonFailed to start message bus: Error in file /etc/dbus-1/system.d/odccm.conf, line 1, column 6: not well-formed (invalid token) |
| 18:48.52 | BabelO | cr2: like this ? <policy user="fcr"> |
| 18:49.06 | cr2 | hmm |
| 18:49.32 | cr2 | Starting D-Bus daemonFailed to start message bus: Unknown element <policy> at root of configuration file |
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| 18:52.13 | BabelO | cr2: mine http://pastebin.ca/985031 |
| 18:53.01 | cr2 | wow. |
| 18:53.03 | kiozen | BabelO: somehow the stylesheet seems to overide my setAutoFillBackground() calls. |
| 18:53.28 | cr2 | BabelO: i know why i hate gnome :) |
| 18:53.59 | cr2 | Unknown username "gdm" in message bus configuration file |
| 18:54.04 | BabelO | kiozen: on Qframe http://pastebin.ca/985031 |
| 18:54.28 | kiozen | wrong pastebin ;) |
| 18:54.42 | BabelO | s/http:\/\/pastebin.ca\/985031/QFrame::StyledPanel/ |
| 18:54.53 | BabelO | porr apt :( |
| 18:55.30 | BabelO | kiozen: QFrame is created with NoFrame by default |
| 18:56.43 | kiozen | BabelO: designer does it rigth |
| 18:56.56 | BabelO | ok |
| 18:57.08 | dcordes | c4software, you can ask the persons in #android :D they are often very friendly and open to new ideas as I figured |
| 18:57.09 | kiozen | imho it's like you said, as the parrent has a transparent backgroung |
| 18:57.19 | cr2 | BabelO: there was a synce-start-something script ? |
| 18:57.22 | kiozen | the children have the same property |
| 18:57.39 | kiozen | by changing the pallet/role you can solve it |
| 18:58.02 | kiozen | but it lacks a configurable background color |
| 18:58.22 | BabelO | cr2: only the one for serial on my machine |
| 18:58.50 | BabelO | kiozen: yes like setWindowOpacity(0.5); |
| 18:59.30 | cr2 | librapi2-0.10.0 odccm-0.10.0 libsynce-0.10.0 |
| 18:59.38 | cr2 | i've compiled and installed them |
| 18:59.50 | cr2 | librapi2-0.10.0 too |
| 19:00.00 | cr2 | something else ? |
| 19:00.18 | cr2 | i don't need any sync things and other guis. |
| 19:00.34 | BabelO | cr2: yes i ve do same than you + usb-rndis-ilte, else does not works for me |
| 19:00.42 | BabelO | s/ilte/lite/ |
| 19:01.25 | cr2 | BabelO: how do i start pppd ? |
| 19:01.35 | cr2 | i don't have rndis |
| 19:01.42 | cr2 | only serial over usb |
| 19:02.16 | BabelO | cr |
| 19:02.16 | kiozen | BabelO: nope setWindowOpacity() not working |
| 19:03.21 | BabelO | cr2 so just synce-start-serial /dev/ttyUSB0, but yo don't have ttyUSB |
| 19:03.32 | BabelO | cr2: you need to switch device to rndis mode |
| 19:03.48 | cr2 | i don't have synce-start-serial, that's the problem. |
| 19:04.08 | BabelO | cr2: i have it here, with standard synce package i think |
| 19:04.14 | cr2 | BabelO: rndis does not work here. it's like ethernet driver |
| 19:04.26 | kiozen | BabelO: but you can do p.setBrush(QPalette::Background, QBrush(Qt::SolidPattern)); |
| 19:04.30 | cr2 | don't see synce package in suse |
| 19:04.43 | kiozen | BabelO: that might preserve the color by the stylesheet |
| 19:04.59 | BabelO | cr2: it is in /usr/libexec or /usr/local/libexec |
| 19:06.14 | cr2 | don't have it. |
| 19:07.04 | BabelO | kiozen: yes but it is a to much black for me ;) maybe Qt::Dense3Pattern , but does not look nice |
| 19:07.17 | cr2 | BabelO: i'downloaded the full synce svn |
| 19:07.58 | BabelO | cr2: me too, i use all tools from svn like kcemirror |
| 19:08.21 | kiozen | BabelO: the black is from the stylesheet, with the line above it should be the stylesheet color |
| 19:08.51 | kiozen | BabelO: just remove the Qt::black from the command |
| 19:09.08 | BabelO | kiozen: yes agree with you, just looking at a little transparent color |
| 19:09.10 | BabelO | ok i try |
| 19:11.01 | cr2 | BabelO: it's a separate package, like rndis. called 'serial' |
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| 19:14.37 | LudovicLange | Hi there ! Does anyone have a BlueAngel with a qwerty keyboard layout, runing Linux ? |
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| 19:14.59 | LudovicLange | (or an azerty one would be better) |
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| 19:16.42 | dcordes | LudovicLange, yes. I think the blueangel keyboard works for quite a long time now |
| 19:16.49 | LudovicLange | I'd like to know if the Shifted keys under 'Z' and 'X' are working, |
| 19:16.50 | dcordes | there are bugs but it works. |
| 19:17.07 | LudovicLange | and where precisely are the cursor keys on the qwerty keyboard. |
| 19:17.30 | LudovicLange | I found a picture on the net http://www.mobile-review.com/pda/review/image/htc/blue-angel/pic01.jpg |
| 19:17.34 | dcordes | I don't know it from the top of my head and I fear I can't try it right now, sorry |
| 19:18.37 | LudovicLange | My keyboard is an azerty (no pictures yet..) and the keyboard is different from the picture. |
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| 19:19.09 | LudovicLange | cursor keys aren't at the same place - they need to be shifted. |
| 19:19.14 | cr2 | LudovicLange: write a keyboard map file and load it with loadkeys ? |
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| 19:19.34 | cr2 | LudovicLange: there are something like that for universal. |
| 19:20.13 | LudovicLange | That's more or less what I'm doing, but some keys do not produce a code -looking in the blueangel_kp.c file it seems that they emit the "KEY_RESERVED" keycode (no code at all) |
| 19:20.35 | LudovicLange | I fixed one little bug in this module I think, |
| 19:21.25 | LudovicLange | but still I need to make up 2 keycodes for the shifted keys "Z" and "X" => they seem to produce " and £ on the Qwerty layout, |
| 19:21.32 | LudovicLange | and I just wanted to confirm it. |
| 19:21.47 | LudovicLange | (a confirmation from a BlueAngel Qwerty user) |
| 19:24.10 | cr2 | LudovicLange: ok, that may be a bug. but i think the arrow keys were working on qwertz keyboard |
| 19:24.15 | cr2 | BabelO: /usr/local/sbin/synce-serial-config: line 99: /usr/local/etc/synce-serial.default.new: No such file or directory |
| 19:25.27 | LudovicLange | cr2: And from your memories, they were located like the picture ( http://www.mobile-review.com/pda/review/image/htc/blue-angel/pic01.jpg ) or by shifting G C V B like I can read in the module source code (and like the Azerty layout) ? |
| 19:26.23 | BabelO | LudovicLange: what image did you run ? |
| 19:26.37 | cr2 | i think they are exactly the same. only z and y were changed. |
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| 19:27.19 | LudovicLange | BabelO: a home made mix, I'm playing with Android. |
| 19:27.46 | LudovicLange | cr2: Z and Y ? |
| 19:27.58 | cr2 | LudovicLange: yes. |
| 19:28.02 | cr2 | BabelO: :) |
| 19:28.05 | cr2 | Serial connection established. |
| 19:28.06 | cr2 | Using interface ppp0 |
| 19:28.06 | cr2 | Connect: ppp0 <--> /dev/ttyUSB0 |
| 19:28.06 | cr2 | local IP address 192.168.131.1 |
| 19:28.06 | cr2 | remote IP address 192.168.131.129 |
| 19:28.19 | cr2 | wince 5.0 ;) |
| 19:30.37 | BabelO | cr2: ahhh ;) with vdccml ? |
| 19:30.51 | BabelO | LudovicLange: ok |
| 19:31.14 | cr2 | BabelO: hm |
| 19:31.17 | cr2 | Trying 192.168.131.129... |
| 19:31.21 | cr2 | Connected to 192.168.131.129. |
| 19:31.25 | cr2 | Escape character is '^]'. |
| 19:31.26 | cr2 | Welcome, this is HaRET pre-0.5.2-20080414_012931 running on WindowsCE v5.0 |
| 19:31.26 | cr2 | Minimal virtual address: 00010000, maximal virtual address: 7FFFFFFF |
| 19:31.26 | cr2 | Detected machine Generic Atlas/AT64x (Plat='AT4X0A' OEM='MDPNAP4225TR28') |
| 19:31.27 | cr2 | CPU is ARM ARM arch 5TEJ stepping 4 running in system mode |
| 19:31.27 | cr2 | Enter 'HELP' for a short command summary. |
| 19:31.42 | cr2 | but in 10sec the link breaks |
| 19:32.02 | BabelO | cr2: try a ping -t in another console |
| 19:32.15 | BabelO | just to see if it is ppp option |
| 19:34.37 | BabelO | LudovicLange: what is working in your android image ? touchscreen ? modem ? |
| 19:35.56 | LudovicLange | BabelO: For the moment, keyboard is working (qwerty) - I'm testing the buttons because they may not be all working. Touchscreen not working yet. Modem not tested. Screen is flickering. |
| 19:37.20 | BabelO | LudovicLange: ok, how do you get all button ? is there multiple input entrie allowed in Android ? /dev/inputx ? about screen flickering... mine is stable with latest hh kernel |
| 19:37.48 | cr2 | BabelO: lol. i see the linux kernel tags in rom :) |
| 19:38.55 | cr2 | LudovicLange: you have boardid 6 ? |
| 19:38.56 | LudovicLange | it seems that android is scanning all /dev/input/event* and maps them accordingly to a keyboardqueue or a touchscreenqueue. |
| 19:38.56 | BabelO | cr2: they use it to boot wince from rom ? :) |
| 19:38.56 | BabelO | LudovicLange: ok, clever |
| 19:38.56 | BabelO | like gpe |
| 19:38.56 | LudovicLange | screen flickering seems to be an android problem, but others have the same pb. |
| 19:38.56 | cr2 | BabelO: no, it was some failed linux boot before. wince does not use the first 6 MB of ram. |
| 19:38.58 | dcordes | pH5, nokernel.bb builds now and I got rid of QA issues. |
| 19:39.00 | LudovicLange | cr2: no, board id 0005 |
| 19:40.54 | BabelO | LudovicLange: did you try my qtopia image ? ;) |
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| 19:42.40 | dcordes | pH5, still there? bitbake just tried to make a 2.6.21 something again, out of the blue upon gettext native |
| 19:42.50 | cr2 | LudovicLange: it flickered only many years ago. before i've added the 80MHz pixclock. |
| 19:43.14 | BabelO | cr2: still flickering sometimes after resume :) |
| 19:43.27 | dcordes | pH5, http://pastebin.ca/985079 |
| 19:44.50 | c4software | dcordes: why use cpio ? if i use only gzip its can work ? |
| 19:45.02 | dcordes | c4software, try |
| 19:45.14 | cr2 | BabelO: then you've copied some gpio settings from hx4700 or something like that. |
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| 19:45.34 | LudovicLange | BabelO: I just unpacked my old blueangel that was gathering dust in a drawer and tried to work it out with an android(emulator-extracted) image. I took some bits and binaries from one of the images mentioned there ( http://handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/BlueAngelHowtoInstallLinux ), may be it's yours ? |
| 19:46.49 | BabelO | LudovicLange: yes linuxtogo conatin my image, latest are Qtopia, if you want clean kernel with modules ok, algepop site is also fine |
| 19:47.33 | BabelO | LudovicLange: how do you extract android from emulator, you follow standard howto ? or just download already extracted binary ? |
| 19:48.18 | LudovicLange | I downloaded one to save some time, from http://benno.id.au/blog/ |
| 19:53.54 | BabelO | LudovicLange: ok |
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| 19:57.02 | Sliss | probably a stupit question but how do I ssh to my mobile? (htc-bleuangel/qtopia) it is connected with usb |
| 19:58.17 | Sliss | this is what I see: Bus 002 Device 003: ID 0525:a4a2 Netchip Technology, Inc. Linux-USB Ethernet/RNDIS Gadget |
| 19:58.20 | BabelO | Sliss: in qtopia, go to Settings->Internet-> select Ethernet networking, properties, change ip adress to fit a network and activate it |
| 20:01.49 | kiozen | cr2: ok here we go with that little proj4 wizard :) svn up |
| 20:03.01 | cr2 | GT Ã |
| 20:03.03 | cr2 | GT ? |
| 20:03.31 | kiozen | cr2: yes |
| 20:04.00 | cr2 | ok |
| 20:09.53 | BabelO | is looking for a new wizard |
| 20:10.09 | cr2 | kiozen: wizzard ? |
| 20:10.19 | BabelO | yes :) |
| 20:10.24 | kiozen | grid tool |
| 20:10.27 | BabelO | already updated and compiled |
| 20:10.58 | kiozen | lol, BabelO tries to tell us that he has a Core 2 Quad |
| 20:11.03 | cr2 | lol :) |
| 20:11.10 | BabelO | nooo :) |
| 20:11.29 | kiozen | is jealouse because kiozen is still waiting on his |
| 20:12.39 | cr2 | kiozen: very nice :D |
| 20:13.07 | kiozen | now we can blame gdal if parameters are wrong :p |
| 20:13.18 | cr2 | kiozen: but the +ellps is in the second column of this table ? |
| 20:13.36 | kiozen | what table? |
| 20:13.58 | kiozen | MapInfoDatumInfo ? |
| 20:14.04 | cr2 | mapinfodatmblabla |
| 20:14.06 | cr2 | yes. |
| 20:14.34 | kiozen | 3rd column is an index into asSpheroidInfoList |
| 20:14.54 | kiozen | there you get a and 1/f |
| 20:15.54 | cr2 | ok, it seems easier. but hardcore :) |
| 20:16.43 | kiozen | well at least you do not need to get the towhs84 param out of thin air |
| 20:16.44 | cr2 | since you have mercator, can you add the "special" osm/google case ? |
| 20:16.56 | cr2 | yes, it's extremely helpful- |
| 20:17.11 | kiozen | osm/google == +proj=? |
| 20:18.07 | cr2 | +proj=merc +a=6378137 +b=6378137 +lat_ts=0.0 +lon_0=0.0 +x_0=0.0 +y_0=0 +k=1.0 +units=m +nadgrids=@null +no_defs |
| 20:18.15 | infernix | dcordes: ping |
| 20:18.24 | kiozen | and: I can write OSM but definetly not google for obvious reasons |
| 20:18.32 | cr2 | ok. |
| 20:18.36 | cr2 | i agree |
| 20:18.50 | cr2 | they don't deserve the advertising :D |
| 20:19.04 | kiozen | and I do not want to be sued |
| 20:19.48 | cr2 | yes. don't kick the sleeping bear. |
| 20:20.52 | kiozen | cr2: it's called world mercator? |
| 20:21.50 | BabelO | kiozen: i m still waiting for my IGN maps to get back |
| 20:22.06 | cr2 | i think Mercator_1SP |
| 20:22.10 | cr2 | but i'll check |
| 20:22.21 | kiozen | BabelO: send Russion eforcement :) |
| 20:22.36 | kiozen | s/eforcement/enforcement/ |
| 20:22.57 | cr2 | kiozen: BabelO will need +proj=lcc, or something like that. |
| 20:23.32 | kiozen | there is "user defined" :P |
| 20:23.53 | kiozen | no, I just need a test case, then I can do it |
| 20:24.04 | cr2 | i'm sure he does not know the params :) |
| 20:24.28 | cr2 | btw, the '900 EU map |
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| 20:24.41 | cr2 | what projection is it really ? |
| 20:24.52 | kiozen | what 900 EU map? |
| 20:25.06 | cr2 | your 2a wizzard icon :) |
| 20:25.51 | kiozen | huh? |
| 20:26.26 | kiozen | it's a wand |
| 20:26.29 | cr2 | the grid tool icon |
| 20:26.49 | cr2 | the peoples of Europe at 900 |
| 20:27.19 | kiozen | ahhh, it's lambert :) |
| 20:27.50 | cr2 | there are 2 Lamberts i have learned. |
| 20:27.55 | BabelO | kiozen: you want a ign tiff test ? , wait i ll send one to you |
| 20:28.26 | cr2 | one with straight meridians, another with curved |
| 20:28.41 | kiozen | ah Lambert with splitted personallity :) |
| 20:29.11 | kiozen | il sont fu les Laberts! |
| 20:29.30 | kiozen | BabelO: good idea :) |
| 20:33.38 | kiozen | cr2: here you go: your world mercator, svn up |
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| 20:34.36 | cr2 | kiozen: the Lambert picture http://mathworld.wolfram.com/LambertConformalConicProjection.html |
| 20:35.25 | BabelO | kiozen: too big i upload to my ftp |
| 20:35.26 | kiozen | the plus of Lambert is that Greenland has the right size |
| 20:35.31 | kiozen | BabelO: ack |
| 20:35.42 | cr2 | kiozen: but there is also this one: http://mathworld.wolfram.com/AlbersEqual-AreaConicProjection.html |
| 20:35.42 | kiozen | BabelO: how much? |
| 20:35.50 | cr2 | kiozen: do you see the difference ? |
| 20:36.04 | BabelO | kiozen: 12Mb |
| 20:36.14 | BabelO | uploading now, |
| 20:36.21 | kiozen | BabelO: do ftp |
| 20:36.35 | kiozen | cr2: sure, I am not that blind :) |
| 20:37.06 | cr2 | and that one: http://mathworld.wolfram.com/LambertAzimuthalEqual-AreaProjection.html |
| 20:37.40 | cr2 | here they are curved |
| 20:38.03 | cr2 | so the question is which is used. |
| 20:38.06 | kiozen | cr2: and how do we tell proj4? |
| 20:38.58 | BabelO | kiozen, cr2 http://linuxbox2.free.fr/kiozen%20maps.zip |
| 20:39.01 | cr2 | kiozen: a very difficult question actually. |
| 20:40.05 | cr2 | kiozen: let's check IGN first. |
| 20:41.00 | cr2 | grep IGN /usr/local/share/proj/epsg |
| 20:42.36 | cr2 | # ED50 / France EuroLambert |
| 20:42.36 | cr2 | <2192> +proj=lcc +lat_1=46.8 +lat_0=46.8 +lon_0=2.337229166666667 +k_0=0.99987742 +x_0=600000 +y_0=2200000 +ellps=intl +units=m +no_def |
| 20:42.39 | cr2 | ? |
| 20:43.14 | cr2 | # ATF (Paris) / Nord de Guerre |
| 20:43.20 | kiozen | BabelO: done |
| 20:43.25 | cr2 | # NTF (Paris) / Lambert Nord France |
| 20:43.34 | cr2 | # NTF (Paris) / Lambert Centre France |
| 20:43.43 | cr2 | # NTF (Paris) / Lambert Sud France |
| 20:43.48 | BabelO | kiozen: ok i remove |
| 20:43.52 | cr2 | # NTF (Paris) / Lambert Corse |
| 20:43.55 | cr2 | and so on. |
| 20:44.01 | cr2 | 1000000 options. |
| 20:45.08 | BabelO | kiozen: maybe you need one with altitude and grid :) |
| 20:47.24 | kiozen | BabelO: they are kind of referenced |
| 20:47.32 | kiozen | but gdal bailes out |
| 20:49.05 | BabelO | kiozen: ok i hope i can get my ign maps on Jeudi |
| 20:49.17 | BabelO | ooh ;) french shortcut |
| 20:49.35 | kiozen | got the message :) |
| 20:50.25 | kiozen | hm , qgis seems to have some fun with it |
| 20:51.18 | kiozen | cr2: http://pastebin.ca/985181 |
| 20:51.55 | kiozen | seems to be just a bad projection string |
| 20:56.21 | cr2 | LOCAL_CS is useless |
| 20:56.50 | cr2 | this may be useful: Origin = (864499.000000000349246,2020000.999999996740371) |
| 20:57.14 | cr2 | you only need to override the prjection |
| 20:57.33 | cr2 | NTF_Lambert_II |
| 20:57.39 | kiozen | yes, that's what I thought, too |
| 20:57.47 | kiozen | I'll try tomorrow |
| 20:58.05 | cr2 | # NTF (Paris) / Lambert zone II |
| 20:58.31 | cr2 | <27572> +proj=lcc +lat_1=46.8 +lat_0=46.8 +lon_0=0 +k_0=0.99987742 +x_0=600000 +y_0=2200000 +a=6378249.2 +b=6356515 +towgs84=-168,-60,320,0,0,0,0 +pm=paris +units=m +no_defs |
| 20:58.41 | cr2 | epsg:27572 |
| 21:08.28 | kiozen | ok, cu tomorrow, good night |
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| 21:12.07 | cr2 | BabelO: it works perfectly |
| 21:12.19 | BabelO | cr2: what ? |
| 21:12.36 | cr2 | i've converted one of your maps into mercator/wgs84 |
| 21:12.53 | cr2 | and overlaid an old OSM vector dataset |
| 21:13.01 | cr2 | the roads match perfectly. |
| 21:13.43 | cr2 | actually OSM has more small roads :) |
| 21:13.57 | cr2 | 20070905 |
| 21:13.58 | BabelO | ah ah, these tif are from ign website tools |
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| 21:14.24 | cr2 | hehe. 7 months old dataset |
| 21:18.30 | Marex | have I missed something ? |
| 21:18.36 | Marex | cr2, I have small pm patch for you |
| 21:18.37 | BabelO | cr2: so is it better to use Lambert ? |
| 21:22.09 | Marex | BabelO, cr2 hi :) |
| 21:22.15 | BabelO | hi Marex |
| 21:25.34 | Marex | cr2, please check your email and commit :) |
| 21:25.44 | Marex | pH5, hi :) or you ... please |
| 21:25.49 | cr2 | Marex: nothing there. |
| 21:26.11 | cr2 | BabelO: if oyu know what you are doing then yes :) otherwise use mercator. |
| 21:27.47 | Marex | sent at 23:25:05 |
| 21:29.44 | cr2 | -.id= -1, |
| 21:29.44 | cr2 | +.id= 0, |
| 21:29.56 | cr2 | do you have many ac97 chips ? |
| 21:31.01 | dcordes_ | interfenix: pong |
| 21:31.09 | dcordes_ | infernix, pong |
| 21:31.10 | dcordes_ | :) |
| 21:32.09 | cr2 | Marex: got a lot of rejects in patching file arch/arm/mach-pxa/palmtt5/palmtt5.c |
| 21:32.45 | Marex | cr2, I ran a bit out of sync so maybe there was already applied patch |
| 21:32.57 | Marex | sorry about that |
| 21:33.23 | Marex | cr2, I will update and send you new patch |
| 21:35.00 | Marex | cr2, j/w can CVS produce patch or do I need two separate trees ? |
| 21:35.33 | cr2 | cvs diff -u |
| 21:35.52 | Marex | hehe, I see :) |
| 21:36.01 | Marex | thank you |
| 21:38.24 | cr2 | applied the *ld patch |
| 21:39.48 | Marex | cr2, palmtt5_pm.c.diff will apply without problems I guess too |
| 21:40.05 | Marex | cr2, thank you anyway, Im still getting used to this |
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| 22:01.08 | dcordes_ | infernixxx, ping |
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| 22:06.23 | Marex | arm-none-eabi-objdump -b binary -m arm -D ipl_g3_uni.bin |
| 22:06.30 | Marex | why does this SIGSEGVs |
| 22:06.31 | Marex | ? |
| 22:06.39 | Marex | Im trying to disassemble universal's ipl |
| 22:09.37 | Marex | never mind |
| 22:13.26 | dcordes_ | hm where's pH5 when you need him |
| 22:16.10 | BabelO | cr2: lol, to move a red point android use lot of cpu ;) |
| 22:16.10 | Marex | dcordes_, np, I fixed it myself |
| 22:16.17 | BabelO | swetland: around ? ;) |
| 22:16.44 | dcordes_ | Marex, no I'm selfish and am thinking only about my OE problem |
| 22:16.55 | Marex | hehe |
| 22:17.19 | dcordes_ | BabelO, did you boot on BA? |
| 22:17.39 | dcordes_ | iirc swetland is only doing kernelhacks |
| 22:18.02 | BabelO | dcordes_: yes ;), but just the red point not like in emulator, here it is very very fast lol |
| 22:18.14 | BabelO | and ba cannot do something else |
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| 22:24.00 | BabelO | dcordes_: what is the best howto you known about that ? |
| 22:24.53 | BabelO | dcordes_: i know he is doing kernel, i just see /sys/android_power/acquire_partial_wake_lock |
| 22:26.10 | dcordes_ | BabelO, sorry I don't know anything about android |
| 22:26.26 | dcordes_ | I only looked into initrd |
| 22:29.03 | BabelO | dcordes_: do you have it ? and ramdisk?img |
| 22:29.18 | BabelO | just need the init.d and some files |
| 22:29.42 | dcordes_ | BabelO, http://it029000.massey.ac.nz/vogue/initrd-android this is a .cpio.gz |
| 22:30.50 | BabelO | dcordes_: thx, big file |
| 22:31.25 | dcordes_ | BabelO, but be aware. it is a very strange filesystem |
| 22:31.46 | BabelO | dcordes_: i download directly on ba, other executable are ok |
| 22:38.02 | BabelO | cr2: do you have the brf6300 firmware ? :) |
| 22:39.49 | cr2 | hmm. |
| 22:40.18 | BabelO | cr2: /system/bin/rild -l /system/lib/libhtc_ril.so |
| 22:42.16 | BabelO | cr2: what is the shell which use env { TOTO 1 ...} ? |
| 22:42.33 | cr2 | TIInit_4_2_38.bts ? |
| 22:43.16 | cr2 | BabelO: no idea. |
| 22:43.31 | BabelO | there is also a syren binary |
| 22:43.47 | BabelO | cr2: don't know bts name it is in android emu |
| 22:48.27 | cr2 | BabelO: it's in the kaiser |
| 22:48.46 | cr2 | BabelO: strings /system/lib/libhtc_ril.so ? |
| 22:49.13 | BabelO | cr2: ok |
| 22:54.58 | dcordes_ | BabelO, I have a modified version of this initrd which boots into a console |
| 22:55.53 | BabelO | dcordes_: don't want it , i ve already my console image |
| 22:56.22 | dcordes_ | BabelO, how did you do it? |
| 22:57.32 | BabelO | dcordes_: with OE |
| 23:04.58 | dcordes_ | I wonder if I could replace initrd-android.cpio.gz with some angstrom image in .gar.gz |
| 23:10.35 | dcordes_ | at least it doesn't work with an x11 .tar.gz image for spitz |
| 23:19.16 | *** join/#htc-linux the_sys0p` (i=the_sys0@gateway/tor/x-1822510ab4a78f63) |
| 23:20.42 | BabelO | dcordes_: it works for me i can execute all binary from your initrd and same sor system gz |
| 23:31.57 | dcordes_ | system gz? |
| 23:33.07 | dcordes_ | oh it's late |
| 23:33.10 | dcordes_ | good night |
