00:00.53 | BabelO | good night |
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00:07.10 | tsdogs | night |
00:09.26 | BabelO | tsdogs: ;) |
00:09.35 | BabelO | wait two minutes, i shox you something ;) |
00:09.35 | tsdogs | yes ? |
00:09.38 | tsdogs | ok |
00:10.00 | tsdogs | qtopia failed again :( |
00:10.17 | tsdogs | home/alex/PDA/src/qtopia/qtopia-opensource-src-4.3.0-snapshot-20071008/qtopiacore/qt/src/corelib/io/qtemporaryfile.cpp: In function ‘int _gettemp(char*, int*, int, int)’: |
00:12.56 | BabelO | tsdogs: http://linuxbox2.free.fr/blueangel/capture22.png |
00:14.01 | tsdogs | BabelO: cool, what's that blue sqare ? an error? |
00:14.21 | BabelO | <PROTECTED> |
00:14.44 | tsdogs | ho ok it's a label. |
00:14.54 | tsdogs | BabelO: nice, is it usable? |
00:15.26 | BabelO | tsdogs: yes a label, it is converted map from cr2 of my place, i just understand after some wine that i put coord in wrong order lat / long and not long / lat like in google |
00:15.45 | tsdogs | :) |
00:16.07 | BabelO | tsdogs: yes and it look better that gis russa software, |
00:16.19 | BabelO | color are so good like this with green and white ;) |
00:16.35 | tsdogs | ;) |
00:16.40 | BabelO | street are a little big |
00:17.03 | BabelO | <PROTECTED> |
00:17.28 | tsdogs | well, there is some settings to change them, and also decluttering is not enabled yet i guess. |
00:18.30 | BabelO | i hope cr2 look at the log tomorrow ;) |
00:19.00 | tsdogs | capture24 is missing... but they are very good |
00:19.02 | BabelO | and keys button are working again, i just switch parameter, that s the wrong thing when we work too late in the night ;) |
00:19.24 | BabelO | 24 is now |
00:19.44 | BabelO | you can see street bigger than building :( |
00:19.50 | tsdogs | yes they are too big. |
00:20.57 | tsdogs | well the Polish format has 5pix wide road. |
00:21.26 | tsdogs | you can change it in the default/All or default/Polish thickness for each kind of road. |
00:21.49 | BabelO | ok thanks ;) |
00:22.42 | BabelO | tsdogs: we can set them like 0.5 ? |
00:22.44 | tsdogs | ;) but I think we need some fixing anyway... railroad is 3pix wide, but look much more |
00:23.17 | tsdogs | don't think so, it's pixel, and there is some code to force them to be at least 2px whide. |
00:23.26 | BabelO | yes i see onto the picture railroad |
00:24.16 | BabelO | what is yellow ? |
00:24.31 | tsdogs | BabelO: to be honest, no idea... cr2 knows |
00:24.59 | tsdogs | I think is residential |
00:25.08 | BabelO | ok thanks anyway for all your work on this ;) i ll try with gps tomorrow ( sharing gps from artemis ) |
00:25.18 | tsdogs | BabelO: ok cool. |
00:26.38 | tsdogs | good night |
00:26.40 | BabelO | 1 is too more :( |
00:26.44 | BabelO | good night |
00:26.49 | tsdogs | :) |
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08:32.14 | BabelO | hi |
08:45.11 | Foxdie | morning |
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10:32.55 | goxboxlive | alo |
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10:34.14 | tsdogs | goxboxlive: hoi |
10:37.54 | goxboxlive | tsdogs have you been able to build an Qtopia image yet? |
10:38.18 | tsdogs | goxboxlive: nope, I get an error on the qtemporaryfile.cpp |
10:38.59 | goxboxlive | The htc buttons have strange behveour wit Universal. Instead of jump one step it jumps two steps. But on Magician the plugin works just fine. |
10:39.05 | goxboxlive | strange |
10:39.56 | tsdogs | goxboxlive: maybe some strange button handling for the key release event... |
10:40.22 | goxboxlive | right, because it didnt bevave like this before |
10:45.20 | tsdogs | goxboxlive: what do you have in devices/htcphone/qconfig.h |
10:45.21 | tsdogs | ? |
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10:57.35 | cr2 | tsdogs: hi |
10:57.42 | tsdogs | cr2: hi |
10:57.46 | cr2 | tsdogs: in the kernel it's the same gpio driver. |
10:57.52 | cr2 | gpio-keys |
10:58.03 | cr2 | but maybe something has changed recently ;) |
10:58.32 | tsdogs | cr2: could be, also there could be some strange behavier in the keyboard plugin... |
10:58.34 | cr2 | tsdogs: i'll eat something, and then i'll create a map for you. |
10:58.43 | tsdogs | cr2: ok thx :) |
10:59.13 | cr2 | i'm thinking about a fake map / fake nmea too. |
11:02.21 | tsdogs | that would provide some data for testing, and would be freely distributable. |
11:08.37 | goxboxlive | tsdogs: Nothing the file is epmty. |
11:08.52 | tsdogs | hmm, strange... |
11:16.24 | goxboxlive | tsdogs just so you know, i am not buiding with our old htcphone anymore. I am using the ficphoe as base and just editing the files to fit universal/magician. |
11:16.44 | goxboxlive | Also added htcbuttons/htckeyboard and so. |
11:17.04 | tsdogs | hmm ok, are there many differences? |
11:17.44 | goxboxlive | tsdogs i guess there are some few, i havent compared so much. |
11:18.59 | tsdogs | goxboxlive: can u put it to cvs? |
11:19.13 | tsdogs | or e-mail me if u prefer. |
11:19.33 | goxboxlive | yes i can send it on mail to u. |
11:20.23 | tsdogs | ok thx |
11:25.29 | goxboxlive | tsdog sent |
11:25.41 | tsdogs | goxboxlive: got it :) |
11:25.46 | goxboxlive | good |
11:34.11 | goxboxlive | This one is from the snapshot 20071006. The ficphone source changes often because they also support it now. |
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11:43.52 | Ilya_1st | hello, touchpad is broken on latest htc-universal image with kernel zImage-2.6.21-hh17-htcuniversal-20071009060341 |
11:46.13 | BabelO | hi |
11:46.33 | BabelO | cr2 : did you see my picture with converted map from you ? |
11:46.52 | goxboxlive | Ilya_1st yes in the OpieII image, but that has nothing to do with the kernel zImage. |
11:46.55 | goxboxlive | hi bd2 |
11:47.06 | goxboxlive | hi BabelO i ment :-) |
11:47.35 | goxboxlive | BabelOforget about the roadmap now, we need PHONE working. :-) |
11:47.39 | goxboxlive | i have to go, bbl |
11:47.44 | Ilya_1st | goxboxlive, I've compiled gpe-image but ) |
11:47.54 | Ilya_1st | same version of kernel |
11:48.21 | cr2 | BabelO: yes, the streets are too wide, but it's some internal rescaling in roadmap. |
11:48.49 | Ilya_1st | BabelO, is any workaround to make touchscreen work? :) |
11:50.00 | Ilya_1st | BabelO, I had to receive send calls on this machine so some things I need have functioning :) |
11:50.55 | BabelO | cr2 : : yes , and your colors look nice ;) i try with thickness set to 1 pix but it is to bog too... |
11:51.50 | BabelO | Ilya_1st : don't know , i ven t universal |
11:54.09 | Ilya_1st | heh.... |
11:59.11 | cr2 | BabelO: it's some artificial enlargement. |
11:59.17 | cr2 | Ilya_1st: on the universal ? |
12:01.43 | Ilya_1st | yes ) |
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12:29.41 | BabelO | cr2 : i found why buttons doesn't work on blueangel, i invert some parameters in QWS_KEYBOARD environment variable |
12:46.03 | cr2 | lol |
12:48.39 | BabelO | cr2 : yes, it was too late in the night when i do this image :( |
12:51.33 | cr2 | i see |
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13:51.20 | ltxda2 | morning |
14:32.48 | BabelO | cr2_: still here ? |
14:34.03 | cr2_ | yes |
14:35.22 | BabelO | cr2_: why i need to switch lat / long in session file ? |
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14:41.44 | BabelO | cr2_: i just say that because parameter in google maps or other software are not in same order than in session file |
14:42.20 | BabelO | i m agree that there is no need to change this file by hand in final software |
14:51.37 | cr2_ | BabelO: because it's lon/lat in the menu. and usually you put X and then Y in the coordinate pair. |
14:52.14 | BabelO | cr2_ : yes agree for X / Y pair, need to send an email to google.... lol |
14:52.52 | cr2_ | BabelO: since i want to switch to the mercator projection, the numbers will not have such "emotional" meaning for you anymore :) |
14:53.48 | cr2_ | there will be just offsets X in meters and Y in meters. |
15:01.04 | cr2_ | BabelO: can we put all the machine-wide settings under /opt/Qtopia ? |
15:01.24 | cr2_ | it was done on opie (hmm, with some bugs) |
15:02.46 | BabelO | cr2_ : what do you mean by all the machine settings ? led / vibra ? |
15:06.00 | cr2_ | BabelO: for roadmap |
15:06.33 | cr2_ | <PROTECTED> |
15:07.30 | BabelO | ah, i did not see any /opt/Qtopia/share when i use strace ... i don't know how it parse these directies |
15:20.07 | cr2_ | BabelO: it needs to be fixed in the source. |
15:21.08 | BabelO | ok |
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15:23.30 | BabelO | hi goxboxlive ;) |
15:23.33 | goxboxlive | tsdogs: did it build now? |
15:23.38 | goxboxlive | BabelO: hi |
15:23.52 | goxboxlive | BabelO: @work? |
15:24.03 | BabelO | goxboxlive: buttons are working now, you can test on magician if you have time, maybe try my BA image |
15:24.10 | BabelO | goxboxlive: yes @work |
15:24.36 | goxboxlive | BabelO: Do you have the source ? I can compile it myself. |
15:25.14 | BabelO | hum wait i can zip it :) |
15:25.31 | goxboxlive | thx |
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15:28.33 | goxboxlive | hi Marex-notebook |
15:29.26 | Marex-notebook | hi goxboxlive |
15:33.08 | cr2_ | BabelO: does the keyboard work on ba ? |
15:33.59 | BabelO | cr2_ : yes, keyboard and button it qtopia with image version you have just switch parameters ov environment variable QWS_KEYBOARD |
15:34.08 | cr2_ | ok. |
15:34.27 | BabelO | cr2_ i say keyboard works if we abstract of the repeat problem |
15:34.45 | cr2_ | BabelO: how do we compile the image for universal ? |
15:36.50 | BabelO | cr2_ : qtopia or just roadmap ? qtopia is compiling for goxboxlive |
15:37.59 | cr2_ | BabelO: we need some unified way for compiling it. |
15:38.19 | cr2_ | think about hima/hermes/athena/sable/... |
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15:39.46 | BabelO | cr2_ : ok, qtopia is generic, we just need a plugin naming rule |
15:40.56 | cr2_ | do you have different plugins from goxboxlive ? |
15:41.22 | cr2_ | is there any chance they will be added to the snapshots ? |
15:42.37 | goxboxlive | cr2_: the images of BA/uni/Ma is the same. I have made a startscript for it, i'll pastebin it. |
15:43.31 | BabelO | goxboxlive: mail sent with new cpp and .h files |
15:43.55 | goxboxlive | thanks BabelO i'll test it out |
15:44.41 | goxboxlive | cr2_: http://pastebin.no/2681 |
15:46.09 | goxboxlive | i tested the bootscript wich is suplied with the ficphone and it slows down my device running Qtopia |
15:49.18 | cr2_ | goxboxlive: VNC ? |
15:49.32 | goxboxlive | cr2_: yes, it's a plugin. |
15:50.08 | goxboxlive | so you can control it over computer instead of the device. It's helpfull sometimes |
15:50.45 | cr2_ | ok, what do i need if i'd like to disable it ? |
15:51.32 | goxboxlive | just remove VNC from the script and the lib file from qt_plugins |
15:51.54 | cr2_ | and leave Transformed:LinuxFb:mmWidth54:mmHeight75:Rot0 |
15:52.36 | goxboxlive | Transformed is for rotation |
15:52.50 | goxboxlive | Rot0 is angle 0 |
15:53.02 | cr2_ | ok |
15:53.13 | goxboxlive | LinuxFB is for the frambffer and the physical size of screen. |
15:54.52 | goxboxlive | cr2_: if you want buttons working on universal in a hurry you can just replce my libhtcbuthadler.so with the one BabelO has in his image. The buttons should work with it. |
15:55.52 | cr2_ | goxboxlive: can we unify this work ? |
15:56.55 | goxboxlive | cr2_: unify? do you mean make a common one for all the images? |
15:57.19 | cr2_ | yes. |
15:58.39 | goxboxlive | Yes we can. The only problem i c now is the phonelibs. It works kind of OK with Universal, but the other devices doesnt. But i guess that is just a workaround (isent it BabelO ?)) |
15:58.52 | cr2_ | we can modify your script immediately to support all phones in hh.org CVS |
16:00.06 | goxboxlive | Yes |
16:00.51 | goxboxlive | Just give me the info about which port is for which device and i can add it to my script. |
16:01.33 | goxboxlive | export phonevendor is also common |
16:02.08 | BabelO | goxboxlive : it is better to remove reference in custom.h to ttySX and just keep plugin instead |
16:07.10 | goxboxlive | BabelO: ok |
16:07.14 | cr2_ | goxboxlive: call getenv() instead of hardcoding the phone port. |
16:07.22 | goxboxlive | so , your is allmost empty now or? |
16:07.45 | goxboxlive | cr2_: thats clever (live and learn). |
16:08.04 | goxboxlive | i might need help on that :-) |
16:09.23 | goxboxlive | how does it know chose the right port with getenv? |
16:09.24 | BabelO | goxboxlive : goxboxlive yes no many lines in it ;) i just set all env variable, we can do that in script according to a cat /proc/cpuinfo maybe ? what do you think cr2 to detect platform type ? |
16:12.40 | cr2_ | BabelO: yes. |
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16:23.57 | goxboxlive | BabelO: do you also have the hacks you have provided to the phonesource? |
16:25.27 | goxboxlive | Magician and Universal have some diffrents setup when it comes to keycodes. |
16:28.10 | BabelO | goxboxlive : my hack is in some file here and here, i go back home now, it is only three line to add ;) |
16:28.15 | goxboxlive | BabelO: pastebin.no/2683 The +++ is your file and the --- is for magician |
16:28.22 | BabelO | goxboxlive: for keycode ? strange |
16:28.24 | goxboxlive | BabelO: ok, cool |
16:28.45 | cr2_ | BabelO: is it an svg ? http://svn.berlios.de/viewcvs/gpsd/trunk/www/gpsd-trans-logo.png?rev=3219&view=markup |
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16:29.57 | BabelO | cr2_: this one yes, i have TUX in SVG, is it your new roadmap logo ? :) |
16:30.10 | cr2_ | no, it's the gpsd logo. |
16:30.21 | cr2_ | we need it to control the gpsd from 'Settings' |
16:30.59 | BabelO | goxboxlive: it is strange, we have to compare ba key and ma key driver in kernel, maybe we don't use same keycode for same gpios |
16:31.10 | BabelO | cr2_ : cool :) |
16:31.22 | cr2_ | the satellites look rather primitive, so it's not very difficult to create a small svg of it. |
16:31.54 | BabelO | cr2_: for tux http://oc.wikipedia.org/wiki/Imatge:Tux.svg |
16:32.18 | cr2_ | BabelO: thanks. |
16:34.19 | cr2_ | BabelO: 300k is an overkill :) |
16:34.47 | BabelO | cr2_: lol http://www.sjbaker.org/tux/ |
16:35.35 | BabelO | cr2_: it is tux from how to learn SVG |
16:38.29 | BabelO | bbl |
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17:22.31 | BabelO | re |
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17:37.13 | goxboxlive | cr2_: Read this: |
17:37.15 | goxboxlive | While the screen lock is active (SIM card pin required for example) the applications will only be allowed keys such as Key_Back and Key_No. This is to reduce the chance of anyone accessing the phone's data while the SIM-card pin is still required. |
17:37.49 | goxboxlive | So that's why we cant access the phone while we dont have a simcard in it and the phone is activated on Universal. |
18:09.18 | cr2_ | goxboxlive: ok. |
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18:22.37 | goxboxlive | hi pH5 |
18:22.44 | pH5 | hi goxboxlive, bbl |
18:23.01 | goxboxlive | :-) |
18:56.38 | pH5 | re |
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19:27.49 | rakeem | Hey, tsdogs.... |
19:28.00 | tsdogs | rakeem: hi |
19:28.33 | rakeem | I dunno if you recall, but a week or so ago you gave me a link to some new images for the Smartphones... |
19:29.06 | rakeem | Like a fool I went straight for the 2.6.22 zImage... |
19:29.32 | rakeem | ...and something, hitherto unseen (by me at least) happened... |
19:30.34 | rakeem | The device reset, in a crash kind of way rather than a sweet HaRet way... |
19:30.51 | rakeem | ...and refused to boot again! |
19:31.15 | tsdogs | hoo, that's bad :( |
19:31.24 | rakeem | Got the Windows splash, but it wouldn't go any further... Had to hard reset...! |
19:31.48 | tsdogs | rakeem: what model? |
19:32.01 | rakeem | I'm not having a dig at you, I hope you understand...! Just found it interesting... |
19:32.30 | rakeem | It's the Tornado... Or SDA, or SP5... |
19:33.09 | tsdogs | rakeem: did it start working again? |
19:33.28 | rakeem | I wanted to roll back from WM6 to WM5 anyway, for bluetooth reasons, so no big deal... Yeah, it worked fine after the hard reset... |
19:34.42 | tsdogs | I saw somebody else had the same problem when WM6 was installed... |
19:35.13 | rakeem | Just illustrated what can happen when something runs away like that... As far as I know, there's nothing to stop the bootloader getting hosed in a similar way... |
19:35.45 | rakeem | I had trouble getting one of the Kernels to boot on my Uni after an (up)grade to WM6 from WM5... |
19:36.52 | tsdogs | rakeem: no idea then, probably there was something in the kernel... |
19:37.16 | rakeem | I'm gonna sync (when I've finished this game of Worms) and try another one of those Kernels... I'd really like to get a skeleton OS running on the Tornado with Wifi & Bluetooth... |
19:38.10 | tsdogs | well probably law whould know which one to use... |
19:38.38 | tsdogs | bbl. gg eat. |
19:38.39 | rakeem | Yeah, I s'pose... I don't quite understand how the memory contents, even if intact after HaRet gets it's claws in, could affect execution of the kernel though... |
19:39.03 | rakeem | Enjoy... Thanks again for the links though... |
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20:11.50 | rakeem | Hey Hawk... |
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20:29.47 | rakeem | Hi Tim... |
20:44.00 | cr2_ | tsdogs: still here ? |
20:44.17 | BabelO | hey cr2_ |
20:44.39 | BabelO | do you find a sat svg picture ? |
20:45.51 | rakeem | Hi cr2... He's gone for some food... |
20:47.13 | rakeem | Anyone know if there're any newer Uni images than those on the usual linuxtogo page? |
20:57.29 | cr2_ | rakeem: no. because only goxboxlive makes the images |
20:58.18 | rakeem | So I'd gathered, he does a good job... |
20:58.54 | rakeem | ...and I understand you're the deep, kernel / hardware guru... |
21:01.10 | rakeem | I don't mean to sound like a lazy sod, demanding images, I just haven't been around for a couple of weeks and things have been moving pretty fast lately... |
21:02.38 | rakeem | ...and I'm still experiencing serious instability with Wifi on anything other than 2.6.16... |
21:21.00 | BabelO | cr2_: IRA \o International reference alphabet (i.e. ASCII). |
21:50.27 | *** join/#htc-linux Marex-notebook (n=marex@vasut.kolej.mff.cuni.cz) |
22:08.08 | cr2_ | tsdogs: are you still alive ? |
22:14.09 | BabelO | cr2_: i think he is not eating pizza this evening .. lol |
22:22.49 | cr2_ | BabelO: i've created him a map. |
22:23.31 | BabelO | cr2_: good , each of we have it s one map then.. i m really happy with quality produced |
22:27.09 | cr2_ | BabelO: the point labels should be rendered, then it will become usable. |
22:34.29 | cr2_ | BabelO: we also need a reliable way to convert OSM maps. |
22:34.49 | BabelO | cr2_: yes a way without your help :) |
22:35.40 | BabelO | cr2_: maybe with help of kiozen ? |
22:39.25 | cr2_ | BabelO: it's possible right now, but there are some bugs. |
22:39.45 | BabelO | cr2_: a c program ot some perl ? |
22:40.01 | cr2_ | for kiozen i have found something nice :) we will see if he will implement it in qlandkarte :) |
22:40.18 | cr2_ | otherwise it's possible to patch gpsbabel. |
22:40.24 | BabelO | :) |
22:40.27 | cr2_ | BabelO: for what ? |
22:40.46 | BabelO | cr2_: to convert map like you do for mine |
22:41.09 | BabelO | cr2_: i m very interested in use of postgis |
22:41.25 | cr2_ | it uses gpsmapedit, which is not very non-interactive in wine. |
22:41.28 | cr2_ | rgn_header.cpp:91: void RGN_element::Read(xor_fstream *, Coordinates, IMGfile *): Assertion `((rgnType >= 0x20 && rgnType <= 0x27 ) || rgnType == 0x2f || rgnType == 0x1d || rgnType == 0x2a || rgnType == 0x2c )' failed. |
22:41.46 | cr2_ | got such problem here. |
22:42.20 | cr2_ | BabelO: yes, postgis works too. |
22:43.30 | BabelO | cr2_: i install it when i have more time, i m looking at modem, i advance a little today, but ba modem firmware is very unstable |
22:43.31 | cr2_ | BabelO: maybe osm2pgsql is the best way. |
22:43.41 | cr2_ | ok. |
22:44.31 | BabelO | cr2_: so we need many tools to convert from one format > OSM then -> roadmap ? |
22:45.48 | cr2_ | OSM is a braindead xml format, so it eats enormous amount of resources to parse and use. |
22:46.17 | cr2_ | the current planet-*.osm file is 20GB. |
22:47.09 | cr2_ | but there are people who are already doing the dirty job of cutting it into pieces :) |
22:47.12 | cr2_ | http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/User:Computerteddy |
22:47.42 | cr2_ | unfortunately they drop the lines crossing the grid. |
22:47.54 | cr2_ | but i don't blame them. |
22:48.20 | cr2_ | they use a java parser ;-) |
22:48.56 | cr2_ | java+xml , that really makes me sick. |
22:49.21 | cr2_ | the OSM editor uses java too. |
22:49.28 | BabelO | cr2_: java xml class is really powerfull to work on big big xml file without thinking about memory leak ;) |
22:49.41 | cr2_ | after downloading some harmless areas i get OOM. |
22:49.51 | cr2_ | LOL |
22:50.43 | cr2_ | so i prefer to use cgpsmapper to reuse their tiles. |
22:50.50 | cr2_ | and create the shapefiles. |
22:51.06 | cr2_ | but their .img generator is a bit buggy too. |
22:51.29 | cr2_ | as you can guess, it's written in .... :) |
22:51.52 | BabelO | :) |
22:52.26 | cr2_ | but imho, they will resolve the problems soon. |
22:53.41 | BabelO | modem return me AT <7>(16)+CPIN: READY\r\n0\r and qtopia segfault :( grhhhhh |
22:55.25 | cr2_ | why doesn't qtopia just strip \n ? |
22:55.55 | BabelO | i don't know, but i patch it somewhere to understand that ba modem just end line with \r |
22:56.48 | cr2_ | BabelO: but it's the same chipset as moko. are the firmwares so different ? |
22:57.34 | BabelO | cr2_: it seem yes, because we use exactly same ti calypso kernel driver, so i dont understand |
23:06.54 | cr2_ | good night |
23:07.01 | BabelO | good night |
23:10.30 | ljp | is the ba modem a calypso? |
23:10.43 | BabelO | ljp: yes |
23:10.48 | ljp | ermm. never mind :) |
23:11.45 | BabelO | ljp: yes it is silly, same modem, command are same, but does not work :( |
23:27.10 | BabelO | ljp: and magician have ti calypso too with same issue as ba |
23:53.47 | BabelO | ljp does someone bought an blueangel or magician to you ? ;) |
23:54.04 | BabelO | i stop here my research, too much time spent to look at it |
23:54.10 | BabelO | good night |