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14:42.07cr2awelux, are you somewhere around ?
14:44.06awelux_yes.
14:44.13awelux_a little frustrated
14:44.31awelux_I think something is wrong with finding the processor ID and machine type
14:44.36awelux_or building the tables
14:55.11cr2can you get the latest haret and run dump pxa27x ?
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15:00.19cr2rob_w: i can build oe :(
15:01.53awelux_ok. will do
15:06.32cr2OE is whining about FILESDIR/FILESPATH for a lot of the packages and at the end fails with "nylon-image_do_configure: command not found"
15:06.49cr2yesterday it was much better...
15:23.34awelux_mac type: 0xba8 I think
15:23.38awelux_completely off
15:25.22cr2?
15:25.55awelux_the machine type I mean. When I boot the kernel the machine type seams to be corrupted.
15:26.47cr2tell me about "dump pxa27x"
15:27.14cr2i have moved to 2.5.15 kernel from hh.org and cant boot too ;)
15:28.27awelux_I'm on it (dump pxa27x). all this rebooting takes a lot of time.
15:28.57cr2ok.
15:29.31cr2this is a minor change, but the autodetected MTYPE should be used.
15:29.48awelux_sigh
15:30.02awelux_privmsg doesn't work again.
15:30.26awelux_HaRET(1)# dump pxa27x
15:30.26awelux_Run Mode clock: 104.00MHz (*8)
15:30.26awelux_Turbo Mode clock: 416.00MHz (*4.0, inactive)
15:30.26awelux_Memory clock: 104.00MHz (/1)
15:30.26awelux_System bus clock: 104.00MHz
15:30.27awelux_memclk_frequency_10khz: 10400
15:30.29awelux_lcdlck_frequency_10khz: 5200
15:30.31awelux_lcdlck_pixclock: 153846 pcd=4
15:30.33awelux_pxa27x: lccr0=0x04000081 lccr3=0x04300004 lccr4=0x00000000
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15:37.53cr2ok. two questions:
15:38.08cr21. is your phone on ?
15:38.56cr22. do you know your BT chipset ? do you have a linux notebook with running bluetooth ?
15:42.33awelux_the phone is on bot not logged in
15:42.41awelux_2. no
15:43.29awelux_but for 2 we have bluetooth notbooks at work
15:44.14cr2i don't understand where is BT.
15:45.04awelux_ah
15:45.07cr2then you have a configured USB host channel 1, and it uses memory 0xa0032000, 0xa0038520
15:45.34awelux_nice. that's about where the kernel problems happened
15:45.58cr2http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=UniversalBluetooth
15:46.14cr2you should do the same for the magician
15:46.36awelux_thanks
15:46.54cr2i suspect that it should look the same.
15:47.07cr2i also don't know _what_ BT universal has.
15:48.14cr2i can't read the chip description on the wiki picture. left from the xilinx.
15:49.46cr2http://forum.xda-developers.com/files/naked-magician-insane.jpg
15:50.10cr2your IR is at 9600. nice. the same as on universal.
15:50.11awelux_I know this picture ;)
15:50.24awelux_ah IR.
15:50.35awelux_How do I set the bitrate on linux ?
15:50.40cr2the gsm modem is at 115200. also the same.
15:50.44awelux_I've a linux notebook with ir here
15:50.58awelux_but no idea how to talk to it or what port it uses
15:51.01cr2you don't need to.
15:51.18awelux_ok.I tried a mgetty /dev/ttyS1
15:51.34awelux_and got nothing when I played with ir on the magician
15:51.43cr2make /etc/init.d/irda stop
15:52.00cr2stty -F /dev/ttyS1
15:52.10cr2od -x -v /dev/ttyS1
15:52.32cr2do you see the magician's broadcast ?
15:52.53awelux_and then trying to send some file should give me data on the notebook?
15:53.31cr2then it will switch to 115200 on the magician side.
15:53.47awelux_I think you referet to the popupthat a new machine was found right?
15:53.55awelux_I see nothing like that
15:54.04cr2which popup?
15:54.05awelux_I doubt that a irda service is running
15:54.19awelux_On windows xp I saw a popup once when I came close with the magician
15:54.37cr2there are no popups on linux.
15:55.07cr2with running irda you can see your magician broadcast with "irdadump"
15:55.38cr2without irda you should bee the "junk" bytes with "od -x -v /dev/ttyS1"
15:59.06cr2it looks like a HTC chip near the xilinx ;)
15:59.54awelux_double check: the machine type is ok after all.
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16:03.45cr2http://www.spv-developers.com/forum/archive/index.php?t-683.html
16:04.53cr2The chip is CSR type 31314 3A05, which according to CSR website is a bluecore version 3 capable of both BT v1.1 and v1.2
16:05.32cr2that's why i have BT at 921600. because i have TI.
16:06.24cr2the remaining question is how it is connected.
16:12.33awelux_yea
16:12.39awelux_I see data on the linux irda port
16:17.27cr2don't forget that BT has audio, and i have seen how the wince BA on crashed, but the sound was working.
16:18.38cr2since the radio part is the same on hima,ba and magician it is a challenging problem how the digital audio is routed, at which speed and in which format.
16:19.15cr2BT audio is obviously having a direct connection to the analog baseband.
16:19.45cr2cp15 has done some research here, but it is not complete.
16:21.26cr2well. you need to do a full reset on the USB host. still i don't see what is it doing...
16:23.37awelux_hmm. the kernel does a lookup processor and machine type at the start and gets a memor ylocation for that.
16:24.01awelux_That might be the memory location of a struct.#
16:26.06cr2i will assume that the kernel is doing a right thing :) and we should prevent the memory corruption.
16:26.34awelux_the memory doesn't get corrupted right now
16:26.56awelux_I would notice that on decompression
16:27.34cr2but the same kernel works on my machine ?
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16:29.13awelux_my cpuid: 0x69054114
16:30.46awelux_well, I also have fun watching the kernel boot in detail ;)
16:31.17awelux_booting without knowing how it's done would be not much fun right now
16:31.27cr2aah. CSR BT has an USB port!
16:32.02awelux_you are moving along fast cr2
16:32.53kelarhi
16:32.55awelux_the mmu gets enabled very early from linux
16:32.55cr2btw, can you differentiate between pxa255, 263, 270, 272 on the cpuid ?
16:32.57awelux_hi kelar
16:33.10kelarhave any of you guys had much luck with these devices ?
16:33.19kelarI have an A780 now ... and I don't care for it ....
16:33.36cr2hi kelar
16:33.41cr2i have a780 too.
16:33.44kelarhi awelux_ & cr2
16:33.44awelux_kelar: perfect conditions
16:33.54kelarcan you actually make calls on it ?
16:34.06cr2on what ?
16:34.24kelarthe blueangle device
16:34.32kelarnot the a780 ... :P it works
16:34.33cr2yes.
16:34.37cr2:)
16:35.00cr2i a specia haret switches the audio on.
16:35.47cr2awelux: switch off BT, and look if the usb host config will change.
16:35.49kelarso do you use linux on it (the blue angle)  as your primary os
16:35.51kelar?
16:36.25cr2no. i'm more concentrated on the universal now.
16:37.04cr2but many hacking tasks are the same on all these phones.
16:37.13kelarok
16:37.44kelarwell, my interest is more on the appliation, system side :/ I wrote a couple of apps for the Zaurus
16:38.22cr2but i like blueangel for its speed. universal has a better LCD 480x640 with "paper" dpi :)
16:38.30kelarahh
16:38.40kelarhow close is the universal to being usable ?
16:38.42cr2then you should not care about the phone model, actually.
16:39.02kelaryeah I don't I just want one that works :/. I don't like the A780 because I can't run qtopia apps on it natively
16:39.10cr2no audio yet, the touchscreen is flakey.
16:39.20cr2have not tested the gsm/umts part yet.
16:39.47awelux_But application developers will soon be needed very much ^^
16:40.15cr2i'd like to have a properly working zroadmap and qpegps on htc phones.
16:40.39kelarI am all about that, I have a couple of apps waiting for release, and one popular qtopia app out now :)
16:40.39cr2and to have a gsm phone app. even if it will be a clone of a780.
16:40.44kelarbut my zaurus died
16:41.14cr2i'm looking for a screenshot.
16:41.45kelarso there is no gsm phone app yet ?
16:42.23cr2there is for gpe, but not opie.
16:42.28cr2http://forum.xda-developers.com/files/opie_uni2.jpg
16:42.49cr2there is "qomunicator" in CVS, but i don't know if it works.
16:43.03cr2the gpe phone app is called "gomunicator"
16:43.06kelarahhh
16:43.07kelarok :)
16:43.59cr2the audio chip on the universal is the same as on hx4700, and there is a driver.
16:44.36cr2i will also appreciate to have a commandline/ncurses tool to talk to the HTC gsm modem.
16:45.10cr2it wraps the commands in the "0x2,0x16<message>,0x16,0x2" frames.
16:45.31cr2quite easy to do, but i'm more on the kernel side of things now.
16:45.37kelarok
16:45.56cr2you can look at the gomunicator source in CVS.
16:45.58kelarso if I got one of these htc phones which one do you think is closest to being usefull to an application developer ?
16:46.30kelarwhich cvs repository?
16:47.03cr2blueangel is at a better stage right now, but universal is more sexy and has a better screen. eventually people will move to VGA from QVGA. IMHO.
16:47.08cr2xanadux.org
16:47.17cr2sf.net/projects/xanadux
16:48.48kelarit would be so kick ass to write a better phone app then the A780 has :)
16:48.54cr2tough decision to choose between ba and universal. that's why i have both :)
16:49.00kelarahhh
16:49.31kelarso, if I get it write the ba is really close, but the phone app isn't complete yet?
16:49.42cr2universal does not have a 2D accel chip, while blueangel has.
16:50.01kelarwow that is surprising
16:50.19awelux_blueangel seams to be quite a cool device
16:50.26cr2$$$ and power consumption question
16:50.54cr2blueangel is "visually" much faster. for many reasons.
16:51.40kelarso have you manged to successfully make phone calls on the ba from linux ?
16:51.48cr2i wish they put the universal LCD into blueangel.
16:52.24cr2yes. but again. from within gpe, with the gtk app "gomunicator".
16:52.35cr2or you can do it manually ;)
16:52.53kelarok
16:53.05cr2http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=BlueangelProgress
16:53.57cr2http://www.handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/Gomunicator
16:56.11kelarsorry if I ask all sorts of silly questions, I have been out of the linux handheld scene for a while, I stopped when my zaurus bit the dust, and was hoping to get the A780 to run stuff .
16:57.14cr2although a780 is a linux phone, it is not hacked to a stage comparable the HTC phones.IMHO :)
16:57.25cr2but i like the builtin gps :)
16:57.32kelaryeah, I know :( that is why I don't like it
16:57.38kelarI don't have much time to contribute
16:57.48kelarI have 3 qtopia/opie apps waiting for release
16:57.52kelarstuff I used all the time
16:57.54awelux_htc has nice hardware
16:58.03kelarand I have an idea for getting a really kick ass web browser on opie
16:58.12awelux_and since they are close to the reference designs they are not that hard to hack
16:58.22kelarthat is good to hear
16:58.38kelarI really really really want a linux smart phone, that I can write apps for
16:59.40kelarso are gpe / opie exclusive, or can you run apps from both environments at the same time ?
16:59.58cr2sounds very good. we could have learned from micros~1 that it is the visual appearance that sells :)
17:00.15cr2exclusive. it's not like kde/gnome
17:00.32cr2because qtopia uses the framebuffer direclty.
17:00.37kelarok
17:00.48cr2i don't know the status of qt-x11 on the phones.
17:01.01cr2but you can install a clean debian.
17:01.04kelarhave you had gotten both running on the phones  ?
17:01.08cr2it should work.
17:01.20cr2worked for me on jornada820
17:01.41cr2but with 16MB ram you can't do many things these days ;)
17:02.25cr2yes, both are working, but some tweaks are needed here and there.
17:02.31kelarhi awelux_
17:02.33cr2but it is the ultimate goal
17:02.38kelarepp
17:03.32kelarhehehehe 16mb is pretty small
17:04.48kelarcr2: which provider did you use with your phone ? (cingular, etc)
17:04.50cr2well. X+mosaic happily worked 10years ago in 8MB.
17:04.58kelartrue
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17:05.13cr2even in 4MB with swapping.
17:05.25cr2kelar: i'm in europe.
17:05.39kelaryep, I recall those days ... running crap on IPXs with 16MB of ram ... running X on 8mb of ram
17:06.14cr2tells you something about programming quality today :)
17:07.14kelarit is so funny, I am a dev manager for a large computer security company, and we are have serious issues with our java developers writing super bloated apps
17:07.55kelarwe just missed a GA date because one of our apps, a glorified XML editor, needed 1.5 GB to get off the ground ... the developers couldn't figure out why this was bad :(
17:08.02kelarneedless to say they all got a bitch slap
17:08.16kelarfortunately that isn't my group :)
17:08.42cr2java... i have seen one developer that says he needs at least 256MB ram for his text editor :)
17:08.58kelareclipse is almost unsuable with less then 512MB of ram
17:08.58cr2an app that is nothing else as a text editor actually.
17:09.02kelaryep
17:09.14cr2i complained that it was slow.
17:09.16kelarbut eclipse is pretty functional
17:09.28cr2he said "you need more RAM"
17:09.34kelarhehehehe
17:09.51cr2then i have said "dual opteron with 8GB RAM here"
17:10.00cr2do you know what was the answer ?
17:10.16kelarhmm?
17:10.38cr2your JVM is not optimized for opteron. LOL!
17:10.46kelarhehehehe
17:11.01kelaryeah java is a joke
17:11.12kelarI won't hire people who can't tell me how memory is used in detail in java
17:11.27kelarbut even so it is too easy in java to create extereme bloat
17:12.07kelarhmm, well I guess I am gonna try to hunt down a blueangle device :)
17:12.28cr2good idea.
17:12.50kelarthanks for all the input
17:12.55cr2btw, i was thinking about cutting the gps receiver on a780
17:13.06cr2and soldering it to pxa27x
17:13.06kelarcutting ?
17:13.08kelarahhh
17:13.24cr2not such a security nightmare anymore.
17:13.25kelarhmm, I honestly would try to get one of the dell bluetooth gps receivers
17:13.41kelarjust because it gets you off the ground faster
17:13.50kelarbut the issue with gps and linux is, the lack of good map data
17:13.51cr2yes. but then you can just use a htc phone.
17:13.55kelaryep
17:14.01kelardo you use the gps on the A780 much ?
17:14.06cr2well. free map data.
17:14.26kelarwith the internet you could google map data, which would atleast allow you to have interactive maps
17:14.27cr2yes. the maps from alk are not bad.
17:14.45cr2in germany.
17:15.09kelarmy a780 doesn't have GPS :/ I decided not to get it because of the challenge of getting US maps for the A780
17:15.25cr2there is a vector vs. raster maps problem.
17:15.35kelarwell with google maps, it doesn't matter
17:15.41cr2ok. there are alk maps for the US
17:15.53cr2but you need to find out how to use them.
17:15.53kelarbecause thier API essentially allows you to say, fetch me a map for lat, long
17:16.23cr2you can't afford such a database on your phone.
17:16.27kelaryep
17:16.46cr2and gprs/utms prices are outrageous.
17:16.47kelaryeah, good point, better yet you can't get navigation data that way either :(
17:17.03kelargprs/utms ?
17:17.10cr2umts
17:17.15cr2g3
17:17.34cr2it is wcdma 2100 here
17:17.44kelaryou mean internet connectivity ?
17:17.48cr2yes.
17:17.59kelarhere on the A780 I can get unlimited internet for 19 USD a month
17:18.12cr2you can use google directly.
17:18.15kelarbut the A780 sucks so bad at web browsing it isn't worth it
17:18.16kelaryep
17:18.20cr2well. you are in the US.
17:18.33kelartrue
17:18.48cr2that's why i'd prefer VGA display.
17:18.57kelarahh makes sense now
17:19.01cr2for raster maps anyway.
17:19.42cr2i will use a phone only to make a call, send SMS or similar and GPS.
17:19.46cr2that's all.
17:20.43kelarahh, all I want is a PDA/calls/sms and internet
17:20.44cr2the sdcards and such are too fragile to put any important data on then :)
17:21.04kelarin general or just with the current state of the phone?
17:21.31cr2i don't have any hard data, but it is my impression.
17:21.51kelarwell, I should get out of here,
17:21.59cr2i didn't have any data loss even on crashes with the current implementation. which surprises me, actually.
17:21.59kelarthanks for all the advice
17:22.11cr2ok. you are welcome.
17:22.15kelarthanks, later :)
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17:30.10cr2awelux, do you have some progress ?
17:30.30awelux_Just had a break
17:33.40cr2bt is a usb slave.
17:34.32awelux_sounds like it's clear how to handle it then
17:42.16cr2in theory. i will need it too. but for umts which i don#t use :)
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18:01.58cr2hi JuNuKN
18:02.14JuNuKNHi cr2 ... and awelux ...
18:02.15awelux_hi JuNuKN
18:02.50JuNuKNI read a lot  in the logfiles .... very interesting  :o)
18:03.09awelux_good
18:03.21awelux_That's one of the first things I did too.
18:03.28cr2i am wondering why we are still don't have a working magician :)
18:03.42awelux_Because I'm a bit slw
18:03.44awelux_*slow
18:03.54cr2i think i understand the audio setup much better.
18:03.57awelux_I will pick up speed.
18:04.10JuNuKNAnd read, about your discussion about GPS on Linux ... maybe you wan't to visit cp15 on his actual project  :o)   NAVIT   a Naqvigation programm for linux ... he´found out how to use commercial maps  :o)
18:04.26awelux_nice
18:04.53cr2he told me in Berlin that it is not suitable for a pda/phone.
18:05.03cr2needs too much resources.
18:06.13JuNuKNYes, correct ...l remember again .... He reportet, that it is not usebale at the moment  :o)
18:06.49JuNuKNI think, he is able to manage that  ...
18:08.29cr2yes. once he will find some time.
18:08.46JuNuKNI would expect, that the biggest problem is to store all the data on the device ....
18:09.23JuNuKNDo you know, whats the biggest resource problem, which he saw?
18:09.29awelux_Isn't the data usually stored on a SD disc ?
18:10.30JuNuKNYes it should be stored on a SD card. Mine under WinCE uses 512MB for complete Germany, and European Main streets
18:10.41cr2i think it was memory.
18:10.52JuNuKNBut I would expect, that it is somehow compressed
18:10.53cr2but 128MB sounds as a lot of memory.
18:11.09awelux_JuNuKN, btw, how is your modified hared coming along? Did you boot a normal linux on your ba yet?
18:12.13JuNuKNI have no BA. I have had an Himalaya, which I selled meanwhile, because the Connector for charging begins to make problems. I have only a magician now
18:12.42awelux_oh. seams like i nixed that up. sry
18:13.16JuNuKNI have also started to create a GPS application under CE, to examine, how routing will work.
18:13.55JuNuKN... In the past and have stopped it, because it makes no sense for WinCE, where you can get Software so cheap
18:13.58awelux_does the magician support gps ?
18:15.16JuNuKNMy magician supports GPS ... I have a bluetoothGPS mouse. It works better than expected. I thought, that the main memory would be to small! But It works well!
18:16.26awelux_ah. right. I forgot about the bluetooth gps mice
18:16.27rob_wwell guys , gpsdrive is already there .. it only misses routing , which depends on the knowledge of adresses ...
18:16.59rob_wto use commercial maps and data would bring that ... then gpsdrive is already quite cool..
18:17.02JuNuKNThe biggest shit on every GPS application is, that you could not update your maps by your self! Thats why I tried to start a test for such a software.
18:17.49rob_wthe bad side is that still the best and the good maps are commercial as is
18:18.04JuNuKNrob_w  : I think the same ... therefore I can not understand, why cp15 starts again from scratch !
18:19.29cr2JuNuKN: a780 has 48MB ram.
18:19.48cr2gpsdrive is a really lame program ;)
18:19.55rob_wyou maybe cant call it like that ... cp15 probably starts exaclty there "from scratch" where it is needed ..
18:20.04rob_win the parsing of the commercial maps ..
18:20.13JuNuKNrob_w : The maps (images) can be downloaded on google earth, Microsoft and so on. And several projects have startet to collect Routing data, by logging streets and combining them on a server machine, for resynchronisation
18:20.19rob_wcr2, lame ?
18:20.24cr2if you want to program the routing support, do it in roadmap. http://roadmap.digitalomaha.net
18:21.22rob_wcr2, this is usa only
18:21.31cr2rob_w: the tiles must be 1280x1024 size and in some arcane projection that nobody can get right even after 2-3 years of discussion.
18:21.48cr2the data is usa only,
18:22.04cr2but soon it will support any maps. trust me :)
18:22.27cr2the only missing part is the road graph support.
18:22.42rob_wwhat is that ?
18:23.41JuNuKNSounds interresting. I didn't know that project right now. Thanks I will follow that also
18:23.45cr2the "nodes" are there, but you need to assign "costs" for the arcs, and you need the database of one-way streets and turn restrictions.
18:24.48JuNuKNThe algorithm for that is quit easy!  I think Diserta is the name of it.  I hve get it to running under CE. Was 2 days work
18:25.23cr2JuNuKN: there are many such libraries already implemented.
18:25.33cr2also in navit.
18:25.50cr2here is another interesting link http://mapcenter.cgpsmapper.com
18:26.08JuNuKNOk, ok .... I din't found it and tried to understand the problems, which will rise on the solution  :o)
18:26.40cr2btw. roadmap also works in wince, but i have not tried it. i'm more concerned about the well documented data format now.
18:27.22awelux_cr2, you also mprefere the bottom up approach
18:27.47awelux_collect all that is necessary for a complete design
18:28.08awelux_since plugging it together is easy then
18:28.21cr2awlux: did too much science in my life :)
18:28.33rob_wJuNuKN, do you know a url from cp15
18:28.47JuNuKNI will find it .... moment
18:28.49cr2http://navit.sf.net ?
18:29.06awelux_managers are proud when they succeed in plugging together parts that don't exist yet.
18:29.31JuNuKNhttp://navit.sourceforge.net/
18:29.40awelux_That is a fundamental problem when engineers and managers try to talk about some development project.
18:30.47cr2i'm neither :)
18:31.00JuNuKN... I will bring our kids to bed now with my wife. Will come back later ...
18:31.58cr2there are limits on the size of an absolute offset. even on alpha which is a 64bit cpu.
18:32.05cr2it is just a performance issue.
18:32.21awelux_usually these crash if the ldr accesses memory that doesn't exist or it's not an aligned memory location.
18:33.21awelux_no #MACHINFO_PHYSRAM is a constant with the value 4
18:33.25cr2there are (pseudo)-opcodes for the unaligned access, but you really don't need them :)
18:33.30awelux_it's replaced by the preprocessor
18:33.51cr24 ?
18:34.08cr2look at the objdump output then.
18:34.20awelux_it's the offset of the PHYSRAM info in the machinfo struct
18:34.24cr2ok.
18:36.13awelux_I will double check the addressing mode with the arm reference
18:57.21awelux_I don't understand the problem at all. 0xa001abe4 is accessed with that ldr and how can that fail ?!?
18:57.44awelux_oh
18:57.45awelux_idea
18:58.25awelux_how long is that pxa pipeline 0ß
18:58.26awelux_?
18:58.36awelux_maybe the next command crashes the cpu
18:59.03awelux_and the mov of the pixel to the fb can't be completet therefore.
18:59.59awelux_pgtblr4, r5@ page table address
19:00.05awelux_that is the next command.
19:00.14awelux_some mysterious page table stuff
19:02.43awelux_.macro pgtbl, reg, rambase
19:02.43awelux_adr \reg, stext
19:02.43awelux_sub \reg, \reg, #0x4000
19:02.43awelux_.endm
19:13.37awelux_I don't understand that
19:13.53awelux_guess I've to read about gnu asm macros
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19:43.29JuNuKNOK, I am back :o)
19:45.50JuNuKNBy the way, is there someone interested in a seriell cable for the MDA1 (or MDA2 and 3) ? It seems not be sold on epay
19:46.28awelux_there are things not sold on abay ?
19:46.32awelux_*ebay
19:47.26JuNuKNsold for 1 Euro, from a guy with 0 History, which doesn't send the money after 2 weeks and not answering email
19:48.19JuNuKNIf someone interested here, contact me next time ....
19:50.53JuNuKNawelux ... I wish you much luck with your porting efforts. Hope you reach it soon!
19:51.43JuNuKNOK, goodby cr2 and awelux
20:27.09cr2awelux, let's create the magician kernel with the simple framebuffer.
20:40.37cr2huh. interesting. if i switch off the usb clocks then i can't boot at all!
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21:13.49aweluxsigh. my keyboard stopped working
21:17.36cr2i see very strange things.
21:18.17aweluxI've just heared that switching of usb caused the kernel boot to fail
21:18.31aweluxmaybe your booting before was just an accident ;)
21:18.47cr2yes. i am dumping all the registers. will need them anyway.
21:22.25aweluxgee. is there a way to shut down this "!%$§"! activesync for good ?
21:23.26aweluxthat's exactly the reasson why I'm doing all that.
21:23.33aweluxTo get rid of that M$ !$§"!
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21:36.17cr2hmm. it works. but i can't login over usb anymore.
21:44.37aweluxif you switched it off...
21:45.51cr2is switch off both.
21:46.06cr2but i can't boot if the radio is off...
21:46.07cr2???
21:46.12aweluxoh.
21:46.23aweluxwell that's what I experience too
21:46.32cr2and radio on switches the usb host on.
21:46.48aweluxthe system hangs when it's accessing a memory location
21:47.28cr2hmm.
21:48.06aweluxhow could that be? a bus conflict?
21:48.27cr2no idea.
21:51.13cr2get the latest haret, i have added even more usb logging.
21:51.26cr2will need to dump the dma descriptors.
21:51.36cr2and do a right asic3 dump some time.
21:53.38aweluxI'm completely confused here with the asm
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21:59.05aweluxobjdump doesn't work on the arm files.
22:00.13cr2arm-linux-objdump
22:00.25aweluxyea. just had that idea
22:21.44awelux?!?
22:21.46aweluxDisassembly of section .init:
22:21.46aweluxc0008000 <stext>:
22:21.46aweluxc0008000:       e321f0d3        msr     CPSR_c, #211    ; 0xd3
22:21.59aweluxshouldn't that be a0008000 ?
23:02.14aweluxI can't find anything odd with objdump
23:02.21aweluxsomething is strange here
23:04.37cr2heh. my 2.6.15 kernel is not booting.

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