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| 09:39.33 | jeanseb | hi |
| 09:40.13 | jeanseb | I got a new SPV 2000 (blue angel) and want to install linux (and may contribute by porting wifi driver ;)too) |
| 09:40.31 | jeanseb | but i need to keep it functional so i wana know |
| 09:41.39 | jeanseb | if i switch offf, remove the bat the sd card and the put back bat and witch on |
| 09:42.03 | jeanseb | will i have the blueangel running like before plugin the card |
| 09:42.24 | jeanseb | or will i have to loose all my contact |
| 09:42.27 | rob_w|mis | jeanseb, and hard reset will bring back windows ce as on the first start |
| 09:42.36 | jeanseb | and have to back up restore each time i work on ? |
| 09:42.45 | rob_w|mis | so you loose all apps and data .. so backup your data |
| 09:42.47 | rob_w|mis | yep |
| 09:43.10 | jeanseb | yes but a soft woresn't bring back fucking os ? |
| 09:43.21 | jeanseb | soft reset |
| 09:43.26 | jeanseb | doesn't |
| 09:43.38 | rob_w|mis | nope .. as haret will write over all |
| 09:43.40 | jeanseb | need some new working finger |
| 09:44.07 | jeanseb | and no way to boot with other bootloader ? |
| 09:44.10 | rob_w|mis | ls |
| 09:44.17 | rob_w|mis | oops |
| 09:44.17 | jeanseb | like loadlin ? |
| 09:44.21 | jeanseb | lol |
| 09:44.29 | jeanseb | I'm not the only one |
| 09:44.31 | rob_w|mis | i think it was derived from that |
| 09:44.41 | rob_w|mis | yep |
| 09:45.15 | jeanseb | haret no |
| 09:45.33 | rob_w|mis | oh right .. not loadlin .. |
| 09:45.49 | jeanseb | haret was a debuging toolin fact |
| 09:46.34 | rob_w|mis | so you already know the deal |
| 09:47.13 | rob_w|mis | once we where thinking to allocate space inside wince as file and then use that as space for linux to work .. |
| 09:47.23 | rob_w|mis | that could prevent us from deleting wince |
| 09:47.59 | jeanseb | rob_w|mis: i know basic stuff |
| 09:48.10 | jeanseb | loadlin could'nt be used ? |
| 09:49.01 | jeanseb | I think about running (during debug time) a rim version of linux |
| 09:49.21 | jeanseb | not touching about filesystem |
| 09:49.57 | jeanseb | only memory part and eventualy the sd card |
| 09:50.11 | jeanseb | all win ce FS could be as is |
| 09:50.29 | jeanseb | so reboot will need linux to reloaded |
| 09:52.37 | rob_w|mis | hmm running haret instantly overwrites windows as windows stores in the RAM so to speak |
| 09:54.21 | jeanseb | central flash ram isn't splited splited in two space ? |
| 09:56.05 | rob_w|mis | it is in that sense but u will loose that splitting i think .. |
| 09:56.54 | jeanseb | i memorypanel of win CE there is space name programme and stockage (french name) |
| 09:57.13 | jeanseb | and the other is named stockage |
| 09:57.56 | jeanseb | ok i see if we work on stockage the we crassh datas right ? |
| 09:58.32 | jeanseb | no |
| 09:58.39 | jeanseb | there another space |
| 09:59.21 | jeanseb | ok will check about memopry organistion have you got link ? |
| 10:03.15 | rob_w|mis | check the wiki s in the channel topic |
| 10:04.27 | jeanseb | xda dev |
| 10:04.30 | jeanseb | i know about it |
| 10:04.37 | jeanseb | thanks |
| 10:07.38 | jeanseb | good |
| 10:08.26 | jeanseb | if we work in 128 mb starting at the 0xb0000000 |
| 10:08.40 | jeanseb | we doesn't offend m$ stuf as it is ram for it |
| 10:09.04 | jeanseb | see win ce mapping http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=BlueangelVirtualMemoryMapping |
| 10:09.22 | jeanseb | is it possible to patch haret or kernel |
| 10:09.32 | jeanseb | i think at least kernel will be trivial |
| 10:12.45 | jeanseb | rob_w|mis: advice ? |
| 10:14.04 | rob_w|mis | hmm |
| 10:14.13 | rob_w|mis | sounds interesting |
| 10:14.35 | jeanseb | ok gotta go eating the WE |
| 10:14.50 | jeanseb | back from home in the afternoon |
| 10:15.04 | rob_w|mis | ok ,, i well be out then |
| 10:15.14 | jeanseb | will have somme technichal question and time to try ;) |
| 10:15.23 | jeanseb | grr |
| 10:15.31 | jeanseb | a question before |
| 10:15.32 | rob_w|mis | feel free to mail at robert@linuxdevelopment.de |
| 10:15.37 | jeanseb | who is removing wince ? |
| 10:15.42 | jeanseb | kernel or haret ? |
| 10:16.00 | jeanseb | ok |
| 10:16.05 | rob_w|mis | i gueess haret allocates it |
| 10:16.19 | rob_w|mis | and then the initrd |
| 10:16.35 | jeanseb | ok that what i was gessing to |
| 10:16.43 | rob_w|mis | :-) |
| 10:16.56 | jeanseb | but will have to check it |
| 10:16.58 | jeanseb | bye |
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| 10:31.45 | mndctrl | ehm... |
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| 16:23.19 | jeanseb | hi again |
| 17:40.27 | jeanseb | any dev of haret here ? |
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| 21:21.40 | Gatling | эээ |
| 21:21.50 | Gatling | херня какаято |
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| 21:41.51 | awelux_ | hi jeanseb, I think only wince knows which blocks of the continous ram are allocated to program or data memory. |
| 21:42.11 | awelux_ | And just using the data memory won't help you either to preserve wince. |
| 21:42.44 | awelux_ | You would have to get the info from wince which parts of the memory are really unused. |
| 21:43.01 | awelux_ | regardless of it's program or data memory |
| 21:44.17 | awelux_ | The most promissing way imho would be to allocate as much ram as possible from within wince, save some states of wince and shut down it's |
| 21:44.18 | awelux_ | lol |