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| 23:38.12 | Kelaria | http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/classes/hunter/talents.html?0000000000000000000000505201205010000000003323002110322300531330 |
| 23:40.00 | Kelaria | :o |
| 23:40.19 | hyperChipmunk | http://wowwiki.com/Formulas:Parry#Swing_Timer |
| 23:40.30 | hyperChipmunk | lol you and your scattershot |
| 23:40.45 | hyperChipmunk | you have 2 t4 pieces, correct? |
| 23:40.48 | Kelaria | yes |
| 23:40.53 | Kelaria | and the FD still helps |
| 23:41.05 | Kelaria | i survive a lot more because there are so many monsters |
| 23:41.27 | hyperChipmunk | that should bring your FD to maximum without it; I don't have any, but the 4% is enough that i don't get resisted more than one or two times a week...and i do some pretty crazy stuff |
| 23:41.39 | hyperChipmunk | hm |
| 23:41.51 | Kelaria | i didn' tknow we had an FD cap |
| 23:41.55 | hyperChipmunk | well |
| 23:42.01 | hyperChipmunk | 100% is the cap =) |
| 23:42.06 | hyperChipmunk | actually, 99% |
| 23:42.08 | Kelaria | all i know is i survive FDs more than my other raid hunters |
| 23:42.23 | hyperChipmunk | since everything has an innate 1% to resist |
| 23:42.33 | hyperChipmunk | it's level based though |
| 23:42.54 | hyperChipmunk | so perhaps it is necessary due to higher level mobs in raid zones you do |
| 23:43.08 | Kelaria | yeah and there are just tons of 'em |
| 23:43.19 | Kelaria | so it checks against all of them and if any one of them resists meh i failed |
| 23:43.28 | Kelaria | but you knew that already |
| 23:43.41 | Kelaria | my arena captain was griefing me when i tried to explain my new spec to him |
| 23:43.49 | Kelaria | he was like did you come up with it on your own? and I was like yes |
| 23:43.57 | Kelaria | and he's like what are other hunters doing? find out |
| 23:44.01 | hyperChipmunk | lol |
| 23:44.09 | Kelaria | and then had the audacity to say cookie cutter spec for the win |
| 23:44.32 | hyperChipmunk | i highly recommend finding a way to slide Resourcefulness in for arenas |
| 23:44.38 | Kelaria | he wants me to find hte number 1 hunter and copy and it's like ummm, MOST hunters are BM now, and these abilities aren't even live yet |
| 23:44.57 | Kelaria | do you think resourcefulness is more important than master tactician? |
| 23:45.07 | Kelaria | i've never had M.T. before and i was wondering if it was good |
| 23:45.44 | hyperChipmunk | 48 mana for raptor strike is very nice in those long matches where everyone's sucking mana |
| 23:46.04 | hyperChipmunk | eh, i don't notice it much, but i've never been without it |
| 23:46.19 | Kelaria | does M.T. proc a lot? |
| 23:46.23 | hyperChipmunk | it's probably more useful now since lack of dead zone is so much easier |
| 23:46.34 | Kelaria | which is more useful? |
| 23:46.42 | Kelaria | resourcefulness or M.T.? |
| 23:47.07 | Kelaria | you said it's and didn't have a clear pronoun reference |
| 23:47.11 | Kelaria | since we're talking about two things |
| 23:47.31 | hyperChipmunk | oh, Master Tac |
| 23:47.49 | hyperChipmunk | more useful because it only procs on ranged shots |
| 23:48.10 | hyperChipmunk | if *I* had to drop one, I'd drop M.T. |
| 23:48.13 | Kelaria | yeah .. our dead zone is so tiny now i was testing it in pve and usually by the time i can't fire and i can melee |
| 23:48.20 | hyperChipmunk | but that's taking into account CC in instances and stuff |
| 23:48.43 | hyperChipmunk | where having 26s duration, 24s cooldown freeze traps is quite handy |
| 23:48.50 | hyperChipmunk | oh yeah |
| 23:48.58 | Kelaria | yeah .. i enjoyed it, let me show you want I have live side, one second. |
| 23:49.00 | hyperChipmunk | i was fighting an orc in HFP |
| 23:49.10 | hyperChipmunk | melee |
| 23:49.22 | hyperChipmunk | and he turned to run away when he got low HP and i immediately shot him in the back |
| 23:49.51 | hyperChipmunk | i giggled out-loud |
| 23:50.17 | Kelaria | http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/classes/hunter/talents.html?0000000000000000000000505201205010000000003323032010122313530300 |
| 23:50.54 | hyperChipmunk | i haven't done arena yet on PTR, so i can't really do more than hypothesize on it, but to answer your question: M.T. procs just infrequently enough that you generally forget it's there |
| 23:51.10 | Kelaria | that's what I have live side but i RARELY used counterattack ever, so i thought hmm! wyvern shot is instant so dump counterattack and get wyvern |
| 23:51.21 | hyperChipmunk | wyvsting is nuts now |
| 23:51.37 | hyperChipmunk | make sure you make a /cast [target=mouseover] Wyvern Sting macro |
| 23:51.56 | hyperChipmunk | for interrupting healers in arena before they heal the guy you're killing |
| 23:52.01 | Kelaria | then i thought what is more important? health and being surefooted for better hit rating and resisting movement impairing? or sometimes being able to wing clip so I opted for 2 more points in S.footed and 1 point in the health bonus one |
| 23:52.48 | Kelaria | yeah before i would run up and scatter them if i could |
| 23:52.55 | Kelaria | but now i can do it from a distance |
| 23:53.03 | Kelaria | and with the Aimed shot doing a 50% healing debuff |
| 23:53.04 | Kelaria | omg |
| 23:53.10 | hyperChipmunk | that's messed up |
| 23:53.26 | Kelaria | and am i reading it right, does our arcane shot now strip buffs off our targets? or am I confused? |
| 23:53.30 | Kelaria | dispels magic effect |
| 23:53.32 | hyperChipmunk | correct |
| 23:53.39 | Kelaria | hot |
| 23:54.12 | hyperChipmunk | and you can see buffs without detect magic now, so it's really cool to see it work |
| 23:54.18 | Kelaria | So, I'll move M.T. back to resourcefulness, there are finally some fights in the raids now where traps are important |
| 23:54.36 | Kelaria | but i wasn't sure if i was wasting the points there |
| 23:54.55 | Kelaria | it seemed most of the time useless since i don't melee a lot |
| 23:55.47 | hyperChipmunk | yeah, the new deadzone change shifts the balance a bit back towards MT |
| 23:55.59 | hyperChipmunk | as you'll be shooting more and meleeing less |
| 23:56.16 | Kelaria | but the trap mana reduction is so huge |
| 23:56.19 | hyperChipmunk | yeah |
| 23:56.37 | hyperChipmunk | i was about to say that--in arenas, when you're down to scraping the mana barrel |
| 23:56.46 | hyperChipmunk | resourcefulness is huge |
| 23:56.58 | Kelaria | it's hard to decide, i mean sure i want to crit more |
| 23:57.18 | Kelaria | but yes, when it's down to the wire and you're helping stop a wipe or someone is in your face and you're dropping traps and meleeing.. |
| 23:57.57 | Kelaria | i want both lol |
| 23:58.15 | hyperChipmunk | you have to get yourself offa scattershot >8) |
| 23:58.33 | Kelaria | wtf |
| 23:58.35 | Kelaria | no way |
| 23:58.37 | hyperChipmunk | i'm glad i did it early |
| 23:58.44 | Kelaria | i love scattershot the whole time i was doing beastmastery |
| 23:58.48 | Kelaria | i had no scatter shot |
| 23:58.59 | Kelaria | i've saved people and myself so many times with scatter shot |
| 23:59.28 | Kelaria | he's scatter shotted run away! okay he's frozen, heal up! |
| 23:59.37 | Kelaria | godly |