| 01:35.23 | *** join/#hosernet Cyerie (n=bmcshado@c-71-207-170-209.hsd1.al.comcast.net) |
| 01:35.33 | Cyerie | ~botsnack |
| 01:35.33 | purl | aw, gee, Cyerie |
| 01:35.39 | Cyerie | ~botcookie |
| 01:35.40 | purl | :-P |
| 01:35.41 | Cyerie | =) |
| 01:36.04 | Cyerie | ~chippersnack hyperChipmunk |
| 01:36.05 | purl | ACTION feeds hyperChipmunk some nuts. |
| 02:21.13 | Cyerie | ~botsnack |
| 02:21.13 | purl | Cyerie: :) |
| 02:23.01 | hyperChipmunk | O_o |
| 02:23.22 | hyperChipmunk | you know how i'm awesome at, like, everything? |
| 02:24.32 | Cyerie | lol |
| 02:24.33 | Cyerie | yes |
| 02:24.40 | Cyerie | What're you awesome at today? |
| 02:24.55 | Cyerie | <3 "ValentinesTree.jpg" is on your computer now |
| 02:25.50 | Cyerie | did you do well on your test? :D |
| 02:26.09 | hyperChipmunk | I'm apparently awesome enough at my computer communications class that the professor offered me a job |
| 02:26.18 | Cyerie | Wow |
| 02:26.27 | Cyerie | Nice!!! |
| 02:26.28 | Cyerie | =D |
| 02:30.24 | hyperChipmunk | ={ |
| 02:30.25 | hyperChipmunk | =) |
| 02:30.41 | hyperChipmunk | i'm so awesome |
| 02:30.55 | hyperChipmunk | too bad my fries are cold |
| 02:31.08 | Cyerie | =) |
| 02:31.13 | Cyerie | you should eat them |
| 02:31.20 | hyperChipmunk | i am |
| 02:31.36 | hyperChipmunk | rex has a slightly different opinion |
| 02:31.42 | Cyerie | lol |
| 02:31.45 | hyperChipmunk | he thinks he should eat them |
| 02:31.58 | hyperChipmunk | that's actually his stance on a lot of things |
| 02:32.57 | Cyerie | <3 |
| 02:38.16 | Cyerie | what do I need to update? |
| 02:38.22 | Cyerie | questfu? |
| 02:38.49 | Cyerie | I don't remember.. |
| 02:38.56 | Cyerie | and I can't install that Wow downloader |
| 02:38.56 | hyperChipmunk | Cartographer |
| 02:39.00 | Cyerie | It says I can't |
| 02:39.02 | hyperChipmunk | and Cartographer_Quests |
| 02:39.04 | Cyerie | I need..something |
| 02:39.05 | Cyerie | else |
| 02:39.07 | hyperChipmunk | .NET? |
| 02:39.16 | Cyerie | net framework |
| 02:39.18 | Cyerie | or something |
| 02:39.22 | Cyerie | V2...something |
| 02:39.37 | hyperChipmunk | there's no link from the page? |
| 02:39.42 | Cyerie | no |
| 02:39.47 | hyperChipmunk | it's a free download from microsoft |
| 02:39.55 | Cyerie | I went through a series of pages before I could actually download anything |
| 02:40.01 | Cyerie | from the Ace page |
| 02:40.13 | Cyerie | Was that it though? |
| 02:40.16 | Cyerie | just the quests? |
| 02:40.28 | Cyerie | Seems like there was something else.. |
| 02:40.30 | Cyerie | hm |
| 02:40.50 | Cyerie | okay, extracted |
| 02:41.46 | hyperChipmunk | http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?familyid=0856eacb-4362-4b0d-8edd-aab15c5e04f5&displaylang=en |
| 02:42.04 | hyperChipmunk | Cartographer and cartographer_quests |
| 02:42.07 | Cyerie | is there the version of this thing without that? |
| 02:42.11 | hyperChipmunk | probably Cartographer Herbalisnm too |
| 02:42.12 | Cyerie | oh |
| 02:42.19 | Cyerie | I think I have that one already though |
| 02:42.27 | Cyerie | I don't want to erase the herbs I have |
| 02:42.27 | hyperChipmunk | yea, but it's in active development |
| 02:42.32 | hyperChipmunk | it won't |
| 02:42.37 | Cyerie | by rewriting |
| 02:42.44 | hyperChipmunk | no |
| 02:42.54 | hyperChipmunk | user data is in another directory |
| 02:43.04 | hyperChipmunk | you can't actually write data from wow to the addon directory |
| 02:43.17 | Cyerie | okay, I got those |
| 02:43.17 | hyperChipmunk | you can only write to SavedVariables |
| 02:44.03 | Cyerie | I'll think about the microsoft thing |
| 02:44.04 | Cyerie | I don't know what it is |
| 02:44.28 | hyperChipmunk | there is a link from the page |
| 02:44.36 | hyperChipmunk | under requirements |
| 02:44.36 | Cyerie | no, I know |
| 02:44.39 | Cyerie | But I don't know what it is |
| 02:44.48 | hyperChipmunk | it's kinda like what ace is |
| 02:44.59 | Cyerie | but it's microsoft |
| 02:45.02 | Cyerie | net framework |
| 02:45.06 | hyperChipmunk | a framework for programmers, so they don't have to write stuff from scratch |
| 02:45.09 | hyperChipmunk | .NET |
| 02:45.21 | hyperChipmunk | it has actually nothing to do with the internet or networks or anything |
| 02:45.44 | Cyerie | will installing it change anything? |
| 02:45.56 | hyperChipmunk | oh, no |
| 02:46.07 | Cyerie | then why don't I have it? |
| 02:46.12 | hyperChipmunk | it's just a set of functions and stuff for programs to use |
| 02:46.13 | Cyerie | I update windows all the time |
| 02:46.21 | hyperChipmunk | you don't have any programs that need it probably |
| 02:46.29 | hyperChipmunk | it's probably an optional update |
| 02:46.37 | hyperChipmunk | I thought you would have had it |
| 02:46.40 | Cyerie | Are you sure it won't change anything? |
| 02:46.44 | hyperChipmunk | absolutely |
| 02:46.50 | Cyerie | alright.. |
| 02:46.57 | Cyerie | I'm scared of messing things up |
| 02:46.58 | hyperChipmunk | it doesn't do anything on its own |
| 02:47.07 | Cyerie | k, quitting wow |
| 02:47.12 | Cyerie | I was going to just play without it |
| 02:47.28 | Cyerie | k, trying to find the download |
| 02:48.10 | Cyerie | ~6.5 mins |
| 02:49.08 | hyperChipmunk | it's just like a repository of common coding functions, so instead of a programmers having to write the same basic functions for stuff like making a list box in their program, or a dialog, they just tell it, "I want a dialog box that says this and has these buttons", and .NET handles making the box, making it look good, making the cancel button and the okay button, etc |
| 02:49.40 | Cyerie | well |
| 02:49.47 | Cyerie | It's kind of weird that a WoW addon requires it |
| 02:49.52 | hyperChipmunk | oh |
| 02:49.54 | hyperChipmunk | it's not a wow addon |
| 02:49.57 | hyperChipmunk | it's a windows program |
| 02:50.08 | Cyerie | I hope I got the right thing.. |
| 02:50.14 | Cyerie | not windows thing, the Ace thing |
| 02:50.26 | hyperChipmunk | WowAceUpdater |
| 02:50.31 | hyperChipmunk | is a windows program |
| 02:50.32 | Cyerie | 1.7b4 |
| 02:50.35 | hyperChipmunk | right |
| 02:50.42 | Cyerie | -bin.zip |
| 02:50.45 | hyperChipmunk | it updates your addons for you |
| 02:50.49 | hyperChipmunk | right, that's it |
| 02:50.54 | Cyerie | the right one? |
| 02:50.56 | hyperChipmunk | yep |
| 02:51.06 | hyperChipmunk | ask adam, he uses it too |
| 02:51.17 | hyperChipmunk | he says it's good |
| 02:51.34 | Cyerie | okay... |
| 02:51.45 | Cyerie | I really don't mind updating my own things |
| 02:51.49 | hyperChipmunk | why do you think I'm always trying to break your computer |
| 02:51.52 | Cyerie | I don't |
| 02:51.57 | Cyerie | I just don't know what stuff is |
| 02:51.59 | Cyerie | Like |
| 02:52.01 | hyperChipmunk | but I do |
| 02:52.03 | Cyerie | If I install it.. |
| 02:52.07 | Cyerie | and it changes a setting somewhere |
| 02:52.11 | Cyerie | and my computer won't print now |
| 02:52.15 | hyperChipmunk | and I wouldn't recommend anything if I didn't know what it did |
| 02:52.16 | Cyerie | I won't have any idea how to fix it |
| 02:52.39 | hyperChipmunk | and I'd never recommend something that did something thar retarded |
| 02:52.43 | hyperChipmunk | that* |
| 02:52.55 | hyperChipmunk | I have my programmer's pride, you know |
| 02:52.56 | Cyerie | well it might be something expected |
| 02:52.58 | Cyerie | but you know what I mean |
| 02:53.02 | Cyerie | I wouldn't have any clue |
| 02:53.33 | Cyerie | I'm more like a lowly peon doing raindances in hopes that things continue to work well |
| 02:53.46 | hyperChipmunk | maybe you should listen to me, instead |
| 02:53.51 | hyperChipmunk | maybe that's your problem |
| 02:53.56 | Cyerie | I do listen to you |
| 02:54.55 | Cyerie | I wish sometimes that I used Linux too |
| 02:54.56 | hyperChipmunk | you should; I'm awesome |
| 02:54.59 | Cyerie | so that everything would be the same |
| 02:55.00 | Cyerie | lol |
| 02:55.06 | hyperChipmunk | well I do too |
| 02:55.07 | Cyerie | but I don't have any clue how to work linux |
| 02:55.31 | hyperChipmunk | but I'm not recommending this stuff blindly, either |
| 02:55.38 | hyperChipmunk | I had adam try it first |
| 02:56.09 | hyperChipmunk | and I trust his judgement on windows things |
| 02:57.09 | Cyerie | well |
| 02:57.20 | hyperChipmunk | and I don't trust him just because he's adam |
| 02:57.22 | Cyerie | I'm not saying he doesn't have good judgement; he does. |
| 02:57.34 | Cyerie | I know, not saying otherwise. |
| 02:57.45 | Cyerie | Actually I'm not saying anything except that I can't fix computers. |
| 02:57.47 | hyperChipmunk | he really does have good judgement, by my standards |
| 02:58.04 | hyperChipmunk | I'm not breaking your computer =\ |
| 02:58.09 | Cyerie | I know |
| 02:58.15 | Cyerie | I'm...lol...not saying you are |
| 02:58.21 | Cyerie | I have no idea |
| 02:58.30 | Cyerie | I'm feeling defensive but I don't know why |
| 02:58.34 | Cyerie | Did I insult you? |
| 02:58.39 | Cyerie | <rereads> |
| 02:58.53 | hyperChipmunk | well, you said you'd think about the microsoft thing |
| 02:59.00 | Cyerie | yeah |
| 02:59.15 | hyperChipmunk | as if I didn't know what's good for you |
| 02:59.16 | Cyerie | microsoft downloads that aren't recommended updates... |
| 02:59.24 | Cyerie | I always ask my dad before I get those, if I do |
| 02:59.35 | Cyerie | nono |
| 02:59.41 | Cyerie | erg |
| 02:59.49 | Cyerie | Really, this is just me being me |
| 02:59.51 | hyperChipmunk | well, I'd obviously prefer it to not require a microsoft thing |
| 03:00.04 | hyperChipmunk | but it makes programs so much easier to write on windows |
| 03:00.08 | Cyerie | I think you'd never cause me any kind of problems with the computer. |
| 03:00.14 | Cyerie | Really |
| 03:00.26 | hyperChipmunk | if it didn't use it, the program wouldn't exist at all |
| 03:00.44 | hyperChipmunk | and the program itself--the thing that actually could possibly do something to your computer--is written and used by people I trust |
| 03:01.05 | hyperChipmunk | and it's open-source |
| 03:02.11 | Cyerie | Well I trust you |
| 03:02.21 | Cyerie | I download everything you say |
| 03:02.37 | Cyerie | Remember |
| 03:02.49 | Cyerie | I even have 7zip |
| 03:02.55 | Cyerie | So like |
| 03:03.23 | hyperChipmunk | yea, but I have to fight for everything =P |
| 03:03.43 | hyperChipmunk | and all I'm doing is trying to make your life easier |
| 03:03.55 | Cyerie | Well |
| 03:04.06 | hyperChipmunk | make it so you shouldn't have to do raindances to get your computer to work |
| 03:04.08 | Cyerie | I just don't like to change things when I don't understand or know what's happening |
| 03:04.18 | hyperChipmunk | well, ask me what it does |
| 03:04.20 | Cyerie | nono, I know that |
| 03:04.28 | hyperChipmunk | I'm always happy to explain |
| 03:04.31 | Cyerie | and I appreciate it really, although it probably seems like I don't |
| 03:04.38 | Cyerie | I'm very grateful that you're so patient |
| 03:04.50 | Cyerie | I think I have the thing working.. |
| 03:04.54 | hyperChipmunk | but you admit you don't know anything, yet you think your judgement is better than my own on this kind of stuff |
| 03:05.12 | Cyerie | Well, no I don't think mine is better.. |
| 03:05.13 | hyperChipmunk | so what's that say about what you think *I* know |
| 03:05.31 | Cyerie | hm |
| 03:05.39 | hyperChipmunk | is it working? |
| 03:05.43 | Cyerie | I don't know |
| 03:05.46 | Cyerie | I haven't thought about it |
| 03:06.01 | Cyerie | I do think you know way more than me, and that you're very smart. |
| 03:06.09 | Cyerie | Oh, I don't how how to work it |
| 03:06.11 | hyperChipmunk | ok, well think about it and then tell me if it works |
| 03:06.19 | hyperChipmunk | i assume you run the installer |
| 03:06.21 | Cyerie | It pulls up a page |
| 03:06.24 | hyperChipmunk | and click something |
| 03:06.25 | Cyerie | And it says |
| 03:06.26 | Cyerie | nono |
| 03:06.27 | Cyerie | wiat |
| 03:06.30 | Cyerie | *wait, I'm explaining |
| 03:06.38 | Cyerie | I know how to run things |
| 03:06.59 | Cyerie | It pulled up a page, told me to back up my addons, which I haven't done, and the page has a list of things |
| 03:07.15 | hyperChipmunk | see? even the program is looking out for you =) |
| 03:07.18 | Cyerie | !!!StandaloneLibraries...Ace...Cartographer.. |
| 03:07.25 | Cyerie | That's what it's really called |
| 03:07.30 | Cyerie | !!!StandaloneLibraries |
| 03:07.34 | hyperChipmunk | yea |
| 03:07.43 | hyperChipmunk | the !s make them load first |
| 03:07.53 | hyperChipmunk | it's easier on the server to just download the libraries |
| 03:07.55 | Cyerie | but it looks like there are checkboxes by each thing |
| 03:08.17 | hyperChipmunk | yep, you select the ones you want...that's either all the ace addons or the ones you have installed |
| 03:08.23 | Cyerie | but yeah...you check the boxes then go to file-->update addons |
| 03:08.25 | Cyerie | apparently |
| 03:08.33 | hyperChipmunk | sounds good |
| 03:08.37 | hyperChipmunk | backup your addons |
| 03:08.38 | Cyerie | let's do the quest |
| 03:08.39 | Cyerie | nono |
| 03:08.41 | hyperChipmunk | and give it a shot |
| 03:08.44 | hyperChipmunk | I have to go shovel |
| 03:08.47 | Cyerie | we need to hurry and do the ..oh |
| 03:08.56 | Cyerie | golly |
| 03:08.58 | Cyerie | there's more snow? |
| 03:09.04 | hyperChipmunk | i won't be long |
| 03:09.05 | Cyerie | you poor thing |
| 03:09.11 | Cyerie | =x |
| 03:09.11 | hyperChipmunk | so give it a go |
| 03:09.16 | Cyerie | k, I'll be working on something else |
| 03:09.18 | hyperChipmunk | and I'll be back shortly |
| 03:09.22 | hyperChipmunk | afk |
| 03:09.24 | Cyerie | afk |
| 03:10.23 | hyperChipmunk | my thingy says happy valentines day =) |
| 03:12.50 | Cyerie | your thingy? |
| 03:26.18 | hyperChipmunk | yea the bubble thingy |
| 03:26.21 | hyperChipmunk | you know |
| 03:26.23 | hyperChipmunk | the thingy |
| 03:26.32 | hyperChipmunk | with the lights |
| 03:27.02 | Cyerie | ? |
| 03:27.05 | Cyerie | bubble thingy? |
| 03:27.08 | Cyerie | .....gtalk? |
| 03:27.13 | hyperChipmunk | no, on my desk |
| 03:27.16 | hyperChipmunk | you gave it to me |
| 03:27.18 | Cyerie | bubble.. |
| 03:27.20 | Cyerie | oh! |
| 03:27.24 | hyperChipmunk | it goes spinny |
| 03:27.27 | Cyerie | The answering machine clock :D |
| 03:27.29 | Cyerie | lol |
| 03:27.31 | hyperChipmunk | and says happy valentines day |
| 03:27.34 | Cyerie | AWWW |
| 03:27.36 | Cyerie | Did you do that? |
| 03:27.41 | hyperChipmunk | no |
| 03:27.44 | Cyerie | oh |
| 03:27.45 | Cyerie | wow |
| 03:27.50 | Cyerie | It...does it by itself? |
| 03:27.55 | hyperChipmunk | i don't need to tell myself happy valentines day |
| 03:27.56 | hyperChipmunk | silly |
| 03:29.01 | Cyerie | neat |
| 03:29.26 | hyperChipmunk | whoo |
| 03:29.33 | Cyerie | whoooo |
| 03:29.37 | hyperChipmunk | no |
| 03:29.39 | hyperChipmunk | just whoo |
| 03:29.45 | Cyerie | like an owl? |
| 03:30.28 | hyperChipmunk | no, like, i-just-came-in-from-shoveling-and-am-catching-my-breath-and-my-face-is-cold-but-it's-warm-inside-type whoo |
| 03:30.39 | Cyerie | ohhhh |
| 03:30.42 | Cyerie | You poor kid |
| 03:30.49 | Cyerie | Is it still snowing? |
| 03:31.00 | Cyerie | You have to shovel all that =x |
| 03:31.13 | Cyerie | er man |
| 03:31.20 | Cyerie | I said kid because I say that with everyone |
| 03:31.24 | hyperChipmunk | <3 |
| 03:31.25 | Cyerie | elf |
| 03:31.27 | Cyerie | you poor elf |
| 03:31.29 | Cyerie | <3 |
| 03:31.53 | Cyerie | ohh |
| 03:31.55 | Cyerie | you know what? |
| 03:31.58 | hyperChipmunk | I'm a sgnome |
| 03:32.02 | Cyerie | last night I got dreaming glory |
| 03:32.09 | Cyerie | and then I logged |
| 03:32.17 | Cyerie | like 10 mins after you fell asleep <3 |
| 03:32.20 | Cyerie | but I got it |
| 03:32.26 | Cyerie | it's the other component to the super potion |
| 03:32.28 | hyperChipmunk | <3 |
| 03:32.34 | Cyerie | felweed and dreaming glory |
| 05:29.15 | hyperChipmunk | <333mmmsnuzzle |
| 05:29.18 | Cyerie | ~botsnack |
| 05:29.18 | purl | Cyerie: :) |
| 05:29.22 | Cyerie | ~chippersnack hyperChipmunk |
| 05:29.24 | purl | ACTION feeds hyperChipmunk some nuts. |
| 05:29.24 | Cyerie | =) |
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