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14:28.30kencauseypb_: Hey you around?
14:29.15kencauseypb_: I'm trying to figure out if the Source: field stuff has progressed far enough for me to add support to ipkgfind for it.
14:30.18kencauseypb_: I decided I would search through http://handhelds.org/feeds/unstable/Packages and see what I could find.
14:30.36kencauseyThe first instance I found of the Source: field was for your dbus-1 package
14:30.46kencauseySource: dbus
14:30.49kencauseyWhat does that mean?
14:31.36pb_hi kencausey
14:32.01pb_ah, that package was generated with the Debian tools.  So, the Source: field means that the source is in the Debian source package "dbus".
14:32.39kencauseyI see, nothing to do with current plans, OK
14:32.57kencauseyNext:
14:38.47kencauseyPackage: dhcpcd
14:38.51kencauseySource: ftp://ftp.phystech.com/pub/%{name}-%{ver}.tar.gz
14:38.53kencauseyoops. ;)
14:40.51kencauseysame thing happened to Justin Smith for lightd package
14:41.01pb_heh
14:43.59kencauseyOnly rendezvous-mdnsposix has what I would expect to see so far.
14:44.07kencauseyWhich is packaged by Jamey of course.
14:44.18kencauseySo, this makes me wonder what I should do.
14:44.18pb_Right.
14:44.32kencauseyIgnore the field if it doesn't contain at least one period?
14:44.57pb_Dunno.  I see there are many packages in unstable with Debian-style source: fields, so there might be some benefit in trying to support them.
14:45.25kencauseyHow would we do it though?  Link to the Debian ARM sources?
14:45.34pb_I guess so, yes.
14:45.36kencauseySource deb I mean.
14:46.08kencauseyOnly thing is that won't contain the exact sources.
14:46.21kencauseyAt the very least it will create a package with more than the ipkg contains.
14:47.51pb_That's true.  On the other hand, for GPL compliance all that matters is that people can recompile the binaries.  There isn't any obligation to make it easy for them to package up the results.
14:48.33kencauseyTrue, it's certainly better than nothing.
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18:58.37kencauseypb_: Any idea if Debian specific maximum field length for control files?  I can't seem to find it.
18:58.45kencauseys/specific/specifies/
19:15.04pb_kencausey: I don't think there's a specified maximum.
19:15.38pb_Depends, in particular, can be arbitrarily long.
19:16.02kencauseyOK
19:16.14kencauseyThanks pb_
19:37.13kencauseyboy, the number of columns in packages table continues to grow, maybe have to stop relying on auto_increment
19:37.22kencauseyI stopped using that in my databases a long time ago
19:39.58kencauseyWhat the heck is the term where you only have 2 columns in each table?  Key and value...
19:40.02kencauseyiso.. ortho...
20:48.01*** join/#hhwiki france (~france@fili.crl.dec.com)
20:48.12franceGreetings
20:48.34kencauseyHi
20:49.01kencauseyGetting Source support added to feeds and ipkgfind slowly but surely.
20:49.12france:-)
20:50.04franceIt is a lot of work.  I just wish the person that was whinning whould do some of the work.
20:51.47kencauseyIt's not that bad, more time was spent deciding what to do that anything.
21:00.38kencauseyhttp://handhelds.org/~nikos/ipkgfind/htdocs/details.phtml?package=rendezvous-mdnsposix&id=3443372&official=
21:00.47kencauseypreview of ipkgfind with sources
21:00.56kencauseynothing fancy yet
21:04.28francelooks great to me!
21:04.42kencauseyWell, need to make it clickable
21:05.02kencauseyAnd there are 3 cases to handle:
21:05.05francemaybe, then maybe not.  
21:05.08kencauseylist of URLS
21:05.17kencauseylist of filenames == files are in feed
21:05.25francethe GLP only says we have to provide it, it does not say it has to be easy. :-)
21:05.27kencauseypackage name == debian source package
21:13.15*** part/#hhwiki france (~france@fili.crl.dec.com)
21:32.27kencauseyWhat's the best URL for debian ARM source packages?
21:33.26kencauseyI just realize, that's not going to be that easy...
22:01.09kencauseyYeah, the whole debian name in Source: field is highly problematic
22:01.31kencauseyOur version numbers don't generally match the Debian version number.
22:01.47kencauseyThere's not enough information there for me to generate a working correct URL.

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