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| 00:23.08 | jpwhiting | djszapi_: googling I found an openntpd for meego/n9 but can't see it in the ovi store, are you aware of a way to get N9 time to sync with ntp server over wifi (we aren't using sim cards yet) |
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| 05:09.36 | djszapi_ | beford: sup |
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| 06:14.53 | itsnotabigtruck | has anyone noticed any curiosities on their shiny N950s aside from the user agent selector and the gig finder |
| 06:15.43 | itsnotabigtruck | that is, in the shipped pre-beta1 firmware |
| 06:17.22 | Corsac | gig finder? |
| 06:18.01 | itsnotabigtruck | yeah, it's a program that searches for live shows in your area coming up that was pulled for some reason |
| 06:18.10 | Corsac | k |
| 06:18.13 | itsnotabigtruck | it comes on said firmware |
| 06:18.18 | Corsac | ok |
| 06:18.20 | japh | gig finder I haven't found for n950? or what? |
| 06:18.34 | itsnotabigtruck | this seems to be the exact same firmware shown in some of the old doc pages on the nokia site |
| 06:18.51 | Corsac | they were cleaning some stocks |
| 06:22.31 | Corsac | +? |
| 06:23.09 | ZogG_laptop | itsnotabigtruck: i got one there |
| 06:23.30 | ZogG_laptop | itsnotabigtruck: if you seen video browser has icons as history as well |
| 06:23.51 | djszapi_ | ZogG_laptop: dude, you never sleep ? |
| 06:24.24 | ZogG_laptop | djszapi_: i didn't go to sleep today |
| 06:24.29 | ZogG_laptop | my friend was here |
| 06:24.36 | ZogG_laptop | and were drinking and talking |
| 06:25.19 | ZogG_laptop | the funny thing that roomate found out he has morning shift in 7:05 - when it starts at 7 and he still didn't sleep before and was drinking with us |
| 06:26.13 | ZogG_laptop | itsnotabigtruck: you want me to check things before i update? |
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| 06:52.17 | CreamyG31337 | ZogG_laptop, itsnotabigtruck has one so go ahead and nuke yours if you want |
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| 06:56.50 | ZogG_laptop | CreamyG31337: yeah, the one you sent him |
| 06:56.55 | ZogG_laptop | thanks btw |
| 07:01.36 | CreamyG31337 | yeah no prob, he helped me a lot and it's not really fair I have extra ones when ppl like him don't |
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| 07:04.15 | ZogG_laptop | it would be nice everyone will think like that |
| 07:08.11 | kozzi | rzr: ladoga managed to get rtmpdump v2.4 to work |
| 07:10.23 | kozzi | if it's possible could you help him to package it? |
| 07:12.50 | rzr | sure |
| 07:12.50 | rzr | but not now |
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| 07:50.09 | qwazix_900 | rzr: ping |
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| 07:58.13 | gabriel9|work | is there a source of meecast? |
| 08:03.13 | jonni | gabriel9|work: yes google search gives you git repo |
| 08:05.05 | gabriel9|work | thanks |
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| 08:56.37 | gabriel9|work | meecast is written in C :/ |
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| 10:03.14 | jonni | gabriel9|work: well N9 version is C++(Qt/QML) and not C actually |
| 10:18.57 | gabriel9|work | i was only interested in weather providers |
| 10:19.06 | gabriel9|work | i build some app for desktops |
| 10:19.45 | gabriel9|work | and i cant find free provider... Everyone is limited in some way, req/sec |
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| 10:22.31 | gabriel9|work | I will translate this app to Serbian |
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| 10:47.32 | clau | has anybody managed to setup pptp on n9 ? |
| 10:51.40 | jonni | clau: there is pptp package in rzr repo |
| 10:51.59 | clau | k, I'll look for it. thanks |
| 10:52.08 | jonni | personnally I just use vpnc |
| 10:52.17 | clau | I already have openvpn |
| 10:52.19 | rzr | that one builds also iirc |
| 10:52.30 | clau | and I've patched it to modify the routing table correctly even over 3g |
| 10:52.42 | clau | also managed to make it connect automatically on network up |
| 10:52.44 | rzr | great |
| 10:53.01 | clau | I'll upload it on the net as soon as I have some time to prepare everything |
| 10:53.07 | rzr | sure |
| 10:53.13 | rzr | ask to rebuild it from sources |
| 10:53.13 | clau | *but* I still need pptp too :( |
| 10:53.37 | clau | ? |
| 10:54.22 | rzr | https://build.pub.meego.com/package/show?package=pptp-linux&project=home%3Arzr%3Aharmattan |
| 10:54.25 | rzr | over there |
| 10:55.48 | clau | thanks |
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| 11:23.15 | rzr | u welcome |
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| 11:28.25 | clau | hmm, I was wondering, where can I find the debian subdir? can't even find it on the debian site |
| 11:28.41 | clau | here: http://packages.debian.org/squeeze/pptp-linux |
| 11:28.42 | ladoga | rzr http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=1239205&postcount=14 |
| 11:29.38 | clau | thanks, but what I meant is that I can only find pptp-linux_1.7.2-7.diff.gz, which contains just diffs |
| 11:30.17 | Corsac | you apply the diff to upstream sources |
| 11:30.19 | kimju | clau, it gets extracted from the debian .diff.gz |
| 11:30.53 | kimju | get the .dsc, orig.tar.gz and .diff.gz, and do dpkg-source -x pptp*dsc |
| 11:31.29 | kimju | that will extract the upstream source and apply the diff |
| 11:31.58 | clau | k, will do |
| 11:32.16 | clau | I'm obviously not familiar with debian packaging system |
| 11:33.26 | clau | yep, everything's there |
| 11:33.48 | ladoga | rzr t |
| 11:34.01 | azeem | newer Debian source packages have a tarball of the debian/ directory, which is less confuin |
| 11:34.04 | azeem | confusing* |
| 11:34.41 | ladoga | sorry, clumsy thumbs:) |
| 11:35.52 | ladoga | what i was trying to say that rtmpdump builds with libssl1-dev |
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| 11:37.02 | kimju | clau, Debian has quite nice documentation in it's Policy Manual, Developer's Reference and New Maintainers' Guide. see http://www.debian.org/devel/#packaging |
| 11:38.00 | clau | kimju, thanks |
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| 11:41.40 | rzr | ladoga, http://identi.ca/tag/meego |
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| 11:57.50 | vi_ | hey |
| 11:58.05 | vi_ | can someone link me to the official 'how to flash the n950' guide? |
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| 12:05.10 | jussi | vi__: http://harmattan-dev.nokia.com/release/N950/firmware/ |
| 12:09.58 | vi__ | just found it! |
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| 12:44.07 | vi__ | well, it is really annoying to use the keyboard when the screen is ALWAYS forced to portrait. |
| 12:47.23 | Guest44054 | rzr, regarding pptp-linux, it requires ppp. any clue where can I find it? |
| 12:47.33 | jonni | vi__: you mean landscape? |
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| 12:48.59 | vi__ | no |
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| 12:49.19 | vi__ | I guess I should be IRCing to #harmattan. |
| 12:49.33 | vi__ | ...but all the cool people hang out here. |
| 12:51.05 | azeem | this is #harmattan? |
| 12:52.34 | jonni | vi__: im tmo there is app which hacks portrait apps to be also landscape, but as most of the apps havent been tested in landscape, then the ui layout is crappy |
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| 13:14.16 | njsf | I think a combination of N9-Tweaks and Home screen settings screwed up my base theme (and maybe blanco too)/ |
| 13:14.26 | njsf | I am seeing the home screen in red. |
| 13:14.50 | njsf | Where I can find the PR 1.3 stock base and blanco themes for download ? |
| 13:15.55 | hiemanshu | you'll have to extract it yourself from the image |
| 13:16.22 | hiemanshu | or find the right package from the repos |
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| 13:17.32 | Oni^ | http://vesuri.jormas.com/homescreensettings/homescreenbackgroundsettingsproblem.html |
| 13:20.50 | njsf | Oni^: that is the PR1.2 |
| 13:20.51 | Oni^ | sorry for PR1.3 apt-get install --reinstall meegotouchhome libmeegotouchhome0 |
| 13:20.55 | njsf | I am on PR 1.3 |
| 13:21.05 | njsf | are you sure nothing changed there in the themes ? |
| 13:21.16 | njsf | BTW I already tried that with no result |
| 13:21.17 | Oni^ | sorry for PR1.3 apt-get install --reinstall meegotouchhome-nokia libmeegotouchhome0 |
| 13:21.43 | Oni^ | missed nokia |
| 13:21.52 | njsf | ok let me try that |
| 13:21.59 | njsf | what do you mean missed nokia ? |
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| 13:22.15 | Oni^ | that -nokia thing |
| 13:23.33 | njsf | okay, let me reboot and verify |
| 13:26.52 | Oni^ | Is there a way quicken the boot on N9 |
| 13:27.05 | njsf | nope, still red background :/ |
| 13:27.44 | njsf | any /home/user/.config that may impact this ? |
| 13:29.41 | chem|st | vi__: get used to swype... you will get used to portrait vkb pretty fast |
| 13:30.22 | chem|st | I train it by using it for chatting at home, even with desktop available to A train words and B getting used to it |
| 13:33.07 | vi__ | chem|st: But I liek xterm. |
| 13:33.22 | chem|st | vi__: install finger term |
| 13:34.06 | chem|st | huge vkb and as soon as you get used to the delay... it is usable |
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| 13:34.14 | chem|st | where is vim hidden? |
| 13:34.36 | chem|st | vi is there... at least... |
| 13:35.27 | chem|st | how do I set smtp by wifi network? |
| 13:37.12 | vi__ | chem|st: I have NFC. |
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| 13:55.03 | chem|st | vi__: rzr has it build, meego obs has it, no idea if working or not |
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| 13:57.34 | vi__ | chem|st: how do I enable swype? |
| 13:57.41 | vi__ | How do I enable extra repos? |
| 13:57.49 | vi__ | why is xterm so slow? |
| 13:58.07 | azeem | which xterm? |
| 13:58.20 | azeem | enable swype is a FAQ |
| 13:58.28 | vi__ | If you use open mode do you lose use of all paid for applications? |
| 13:58.35 | vi__ | all xterms. |
| 13:58.36 | jonni | swype -> settings, extra repos -> there is no nokia extra repos. |
| 13:58.39 | vi__ | mtermite. |
| 13:58.56 | vi__ | then wtf is meegos obs? |
| 13:58.58 | azeem | vi__: because you didn't optimize it |
| 13:59.04 | jonni | vi__: community repos |
| 13:59.31 | vi__ | because I did not optimise it? WTF is that supposed to mean? |
| 14:00.36 | azeem | vi__: this is a developer channel, what you do think the answer is? |
| 14:01.58 | vi__ | -_- |
| 14:02.08 | vi__ | Well you sure showed me. |
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| 14:25.20 | njsf | wtf, now I installed home screen settings, and the wallpaper has a redish hue to it |
| 14:32.03 | ladoga | - |
| 14:32.03 | ladoga | 17:02 < vi__> Well you sure showed me. |
| 14:32.06 | ladoga | - |
| 14:32.06 | ladoga | 17:02 < vi__> Well you sure showed me. |
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| 14:39.32 | ladoga | sorry |
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| 14:41.02 | ladoga | njsf, amoled burn? |
| 14:42.16 | ladoga | i've noticed something similar when phone's screen is static for long..say over 10min |
| 14:43.17 | ladoga | but never left it so long it didn't eventually fade back to normal |
| 14:46.17 | njsf | ladoga: no, apps look normal, lock screen looks normal |
| 14:46.25 | njsf | this is localized to home screen |
| 14:46.54 | ladoga | well..i guess that's good. hardware is ok |
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| 14:57.09 | clau | is there a way of loading kernel modules without inception? |
| 14:57.22 | clau | I'm concerned with ppp, but also with iptables |
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| 14:59.29 | jonni | clau: yes in openmod (or if you have signed it as com.nokia.maemo) :) |
| 15:00.26 | clau | I'm mostly searching for a way to do it without hacking, maybe even without devmode |
| 15:01.30 | jonni | clau: then the answer is no. |
| 15:01.37 | clau | that's sad :| |
| 15:02.48 | ptl | clau, you brazilian? |
| 15:02.51 | clau | no |
| 15:02.53 | clau | why? |
| 15:03.16 | ptl | thought you were claudio (a brazilian linux developer). that is also my name. |
| 15:03.29 | clau | no, I'm Romanian |
| 15:04.09 | clau | for some reason in Romania we use the 'u' ending :) |
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| 15:04.54 | ptl | your name is 'clau'? |
| 15:05.01 | clau | now that it's clear that pptp can't be used easily, I wonder why it has to use a kernel component; after all openvpn seems to be working just fine without a kernel module |
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| 15:05.09 | clau | granted, even mpd5 on fbsd uses a kernel module |
| 15:05.16 | clau | Claudiu |
| 15:05.44 | clau | (didn't realize I don't have my complete name in information) |
| 15:08.18 | chem|st | vi__: swype is settings -> time and language -> text input |
| 15:09.06 | chem|st | vi__: and you might want to alter /usr/share/swype/data/SwypeConfig.ini http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=80573 |
| 15:09.51 | chem|st | njsf: you did mess with N9tweak or something? |
| 15:10.25 | chem|st | njsf: use whatever you used to mess it up to fix it?! |
| 15:10.52 | njsf | chem|st: yes, and I did try to use the N9tweak "go to defaults" |
| 15:10.54 | njsf | to no avail |
| 15:11.05 | njsf | guess I'll have to check the scripts and see where they touch |
| 15:11.21 | chem|st | njsf: try setting it "not using" "go to defaults" |
| 15:12.16 | chem|st | vi__: apps.formeego.org is probably what you are looking for |
| 15:12.29 | chem|st | vi__: in terms of extras |
| 15:15.07 | vi__ | chem|st: did you get n9 or n950? |
| 15:15.13 | vi__ | also, cheers. |
| 15:15.29 | njsf | chem|st: I _did_ already |
| 15:17.18 | clau | can anybody recommend a better headset for n9? maybe my expectations are a bit too high, but the sound quality is a bit lacking |
| 15:19.05 | vi__ | clau: sorry bro, this is a developers ONLY channel. |
| 15:19.09 | vi__ | No chit chat please. |
| 15:19.23 | clau | oh, wasn't aware |
| 15:20.14 | vi__ | clau: Only joking. |
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| 15:20.51 | clau | wasn't aware of that either :P |
| 15:21.14 | leinir | hmm... i find that my not-too-pricey Sandberg Street Gear headphones are pretty good, but it depends on what you're after, of course :) |
| 15:21.56 | clau | hmm, I'll see if I can find any around here |
| 15:23.01 | leinir | you'll likely find it easier to find Skullcandy ones... i really liked my HESH pair, but they sort of disintegrated, because my head's too big for them, apparently ;) |
| 15:23.54 | clau | :D |
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| 15:26.44 | vi__ | <PROTECTED> |
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| 15:27.51 | leinir | Ha, easy - developers need good headphones, who /else/ would you ask for advice on which ones are good? ;) |
| 15:28.10 | Proxypoke | would this be an appropriate place for N9 flashing related questions? |
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| 15:29.21 | clau | :) |
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| 15:34.38 | clau | hmm, the freebsd implementation of ppp is entirely userland and it uses tun |
| 15:34.50 | clau | I wonder how hard it would be to port it to harmattan |
| 15:35.00 | clau | well, to linux in general |
| 15:36.09 | azeem | vi__: my point was that asking "why is XY slow?" is not a very useful question, sorry if it came along wrong |
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| 15:51.49 | ladoga | your u ending comes from latin me thinks...you just dropped the s |
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| 15:55.27 | ladoga | claudiu, claudius :) it originates from word claudus, which means lame |
| 15:58.15 | ptl | yeah... having lame in one's own name -> not a good thing. |
| 16:01.00 | ladoga | romans played jokes with nick names |
| 16:01.14 | ladoga | even Caesar means "hairy" |
| 16:01.47 | ladoga | it's supposed to be because the guy was becoming bald at young age |
| 16:01.58 | clau | have you seen Life of Brian? |
| 16:02.08 | clau | Claudius was an emperor, and he had a limp |
| 16:02.14 | clau | so I suppose there's a connection |
| 16:02.15 | ptl | I have |
| 16:02.25 | ladoga | so it's funny emperors across the europe wanted be called Hairy after him:) |
| 16:02.26 | clau | there was a scene about names in it |
| 16:02.28 | ptl | All I remember from that sketch is Dickus Maximus. |
| 16:02.36 | clau | yeah, that's the one :) |
| 16:02.36 | ptl | something like that |
| 16:02.58 | ladoga | good film:) |
| 16:03.07 | clau | biggus dickus, I think |
| 16:03.13 | ptl | yeah, that was the name |
| 16:03.19 | clau | lemme youtube it |
| 16:03.51 | clau | think this is it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zPGb4STRfKw |
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| 16:05.38 | ptl | lol |
| 16:07.14 | clau | :D |
| 16:10.40 | ZogG_laptop | vi__: did you get your device already? |
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| 16:53.44 | ZogG_laptop | hmm flasher fails to flash my n950 |
| 16:56.46 | beford | OCF ? |
| 16:57.09 | ZogG_laptop | yes |
| 16:57.18 | ZogG_laptop | beford: hi first of all btw =) |
| 16:57.21 | beford | :/ |
| 16:57.28 | beford | heya |
| 16:57.30 | beford | :P |
| 16:57.35 | ZogG_laptop | =) |
| 16:57.52 | beford | you are using OCF for 1.2 right? I think GeneralAntilles had issues and he was using the wrong OCF |
| 16:58.08 | ZogG_laptop | SU_BEGIN_ERASE_REQ timed out and ERROR: Failed to erase MMC using 'secure' metho |
| 16:58.44 | ZogG_laptop | beford: got one from site, global 1.2 and started than it saying that it's erasing and than in few minutes it fails |
| 16:59.02 | beford | ~n950 |
| 16:59.04 | beford | ~firmware-n950 |
| 16:59.08 | beford | ~flashing-n950 |
| 16:59.15 | GeneralAntilles | ~n950-firmware |
| 16:59.15 | infobot | i guess n950-firmware is The latest OneClickFlasher for the Nokia N950 is available from http://harmattan-dev.nokia.com/release/N950/firmware/ |
| 16:59.23 | beford | so close |
| 16:59.26 | ZogG_laptop | GeneralAntilles: i use that one |
| 16:59.29 | GeneralAntilles | ~firmware-n950 is The latest OneClickFlasher for the Nokia N950 is available from http://harmattan-dev.nokia.com/release/N950/firmware/ |
| 16:59.29 | infobot | okay, GeneralAntilles |
| 17:00.01 | ZogG_laptop | Harmattan 1.2 (3.2012.02-6, released 2012-01-25) -> Linux / Global957 MiB94876a626689f59a59befe55581452ad |
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| 17:01.56 | ZogG_laptop | ~n950 is limited developer kit device from Nokia on Harmattan. To know about flashing — ~flashing-n950 |
| 17:01.57 | infobot | ZogG_laptop: okay |
| 17:02.21 | ZogG_laptop | GeneralAntilles: what problem u had? |
| 17:02.45 | GeneralAntilles | ZogG_laptop, not the same one you're having. |
| 17:02.55 | ZogG_laptop | maybe i need to try to flash to 1.1? |
| 17:03.43 | beford | http://samulitech.blogspot.com/2011/12/saving-bricked-n950.html |
| 17:04.05 | beford | that seems related ZogG_laptop |
| 17:12.11 | ZogG_laptop | beford: thanks, it works |
| 17:12.30 | ZogG_laptop | nice progress bar it has btw |
| 17:12.38 | ZogG_laptop | didn't have it on n9 afaik |
| 17:13.38 | ZogG_laptop | aaaaand it's gone |
| 17:13.46 | ZogG_laptop | flashed i mean =P |
| 17:17.49 | beford | nice |
| 17:19.24 | ZogG_laptop | beford: now i need to try openmode/nitdroid/nemo =) |
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| 18:56.46 | ZogG_laptop | kozzi: ping |
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| 19:36.54 | ZogG_laptop | niwakame|away: ping |
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| 19:51.58 | jonni | heh, did a bit of experiment on ram&swap handling, changed the default 750MB RAM + 250MB RAM-swap to 1GB RAM + 466MB MTD-swap. (As there is almost 500MB MTD flash partition unused on the device) :) |
| 19:52.04 | jonni | now I have lots of free RAM :) |
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| 19:54.06 | ZogG_laptop | jonni: n9? |
| 19:54.18 | jonni | tested both n9 and n950 :) |
| 19:54.27 | ZogG_laptop | jonni: ping Nokia guys to release the pr1.3 for n950 =) |
| 19:54.31 | ZogG_laptop | or leak it |
| 19:54.34 | ZogG_laptop | =P |
| 19:54.45 | ZogG_laptop | i reflashed mine with 1.2 btw already |
| 19:54.45 | jonni | ofcourse it kills onenand faster, but I dont care, since I have spare :) |
| 19:54.59 | ZogG_laptop | n950 screen colours are way different from n9 btw |
| 19:55.16 | ZogG_laptop | jonni: send one to e-eyes |
| 19:57.22 | jonni | heh |
| 19:58.06 | ZogG_laptop | u gonna win one more in coding thing probably |
| 19:58.21 | ZogG_laptop | or you building the wall with them and you need them? |
| 19:58.42 | jonni | lets see, competition might be tight |
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| 19:59.49 | ZogG_laptop | i hope it would be tight because of a lot good apps |
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| 20:15.21 | Arkenoi | wonders if it is possible to find n950 screen for replacement, mine got artifacts |
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| 20:53.52 | heymaster-laptop | JavaScript and Qt objects ? |
| 20:54.01 | heymaster-laptop | same as QML ? or not ? |
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| 21:39.21 | rzr | hi |
| 21:39.49 | rzr | is any of you runs pr1.3 on n9 ? i wanna u to test redak-0.6.0 ? |
| 21:39.50 | ZogG_laptop | hi |
| 21:40.02 | ZogG_laptop | rzr: i have pr1.3 |
| 21:40.11 | rzr | cool |
| 21:40.21 | rzr | i guess you have shared repo ? |
| 21:40.59 | ZogG_laptop | nope |
| 21:41.07 | ZogG_laptop | i have apps for meego version installed though |
| 21:41.31 | rzr | ok well uninstall redak |
| 21:41.39 | rzr | and direct link to deb should also work |
| 21:41.49 | itsnotabigtruck | btw it turns out that shell meme generator thread on reddit (>3000 uv) is a greenpeace hoax |
| 21:42.09 | rzr | http://repo.pub.meego.com/home%3a/rzr/MeeGo_1.2_Harmattan_Maemo.org_MeeGo_1.2_Harmattan_standard/armel/redak_0.6.0-0_armel.deb |
| 21:42.53 | ZogG_laptop | itsnotabigtruck: veeery interesting =) |
| 21:43.36 | ZogG_laptop | rzr: btw why in load it shows all types of files including jpg and it would be nice to have title with filename or something and maybe line numbers |
| 21:45.31 | rzr | i not this a feat request |
| 21:45.45 | rzr | but i am putting portability as 1st priority |
| 21:45.50 | rzr | supporting nemo now |
| 21:46.48 | rzr | ZogG_laptop, so i guess there are not major regressions now |
| 21:47.02 | ZogG_laptop | wait |
| 21:47.05 | ZogG_laptop | still didn't check |
| 21:47.12 | ZogG_laptop | checked apps4meego version |
| 21:47.20 | rzr | that one is outdated please uninstall |
| 21:49.53 | ZogG_laptop | rzr: it works |
| 21:50.10 | rzr | ok thx |
| 21:50.33 | ZogG_laptop | rzr: do you have nemo on n950? |
| 21:50.34 | qwazix | rzr: ping |
| 21:50.40 | rzr | qwazix, pong |
| 21:51.35 | qwazix | If you didn't see the thread, I imported rawcam to github.com/qwazix/rawcam anf forked it to harmattan organization |
| 21:52.03 | qwazix | You should be able to push, if not tell me to check it out |
| 21:52.22 | rzr | cool |
| 21:52.29 | rzr | i will do that in a couple of days |
| 21:52.59 | ZogG_laptop | qwazix: oh you building it for apps4meego? |
| 21:53.11 | ZogG_laptop | qwazix: do you have n9 or n950? |
| 21:54.01 | qwazix | ZogG_laptop: both, I just posted the deb on tmo, and rzr was kind enough to add it to his repo |
| 21:54.16 | ZogG_laptop | as i understood n950 camera is better than n9 one? just wonder if you can use all the power of n950 |
| 21:54.24 | ZogG_laptop | qwazix: what about apps4meego? |
| 21:56.09 | qwazix | N950 camera is better than N9, even @8MP. With rawcam you can also take 12MP pics, but the sensor has a different arrangement of colours and I haven't fixed that yet. Also the viewfinder doesn't work |
| 21:56.33 | ZogG_laptop | good |
| 21:57.19 | qwazix | Priorities are as follows: add features and simple settings for N9, fix N950 operation, upload to apps4meego or ovi |
| 21:57.57 | qwazix | but I can't promise anything as time is limited, (and I hate packaging) |
| 21:58.32 | rzr | i'll help you |
| 21:58.37 | qwazix | rzr: thanks :) |
| 21:59.22 | qwazix | rzr: you are very welcome to help |
| 22:00.19 | qwazix | I'm hoping this weekend to be able to devote some time to it |
| 22:00.51 | rzr | i wont have too much time this week |
| 22:00.58 | rzr | but we'll do it soon or later |
| 22:01.02 | ZogG_laptop | qwazix: did you use scratchbox or qtcreator? |
| 22:01.21 | arcean_ | qwazix, maybe I'll find some time to fix issues with n950 |
| 22:01.37 | ZogG_laptop | arcean_: hey |
| 22:01.46 | qwazix | that's ok, won't be ready this week anyway, will just try to release a beta 2 |
| 22:01.48 | arcean_ | hey ZogG_laptop |
| 22:02.19 | ZogG_laptop | arcean_: your led thing, can you just commit patch to unrestricted-system-ui of MohammadAG's version on github? |
| 22:02.46 | ZogG_laptop | qwazix: if it's qtcreator i can try to package it for OBS |
| 22:02.55 | qwazix | arcean_: In fcam_dev package there is some function to set color arrangement for sensor |
| 22:03.23 | arcean_ | ZogG_laptop: the question is, if we want to have led notifications in unrestricted system-ui :) |
| 22:03.34 | ZogG_laptop | arcean_: make it optional |
| 22:03.37 | ZogG_laptop | ? |
| 22:03.58 | qwazix | it has a comment about N9 being RGGB or something and old N9 sth else. No hint for N950 but I suppose brute force is our friend |
| 22:04.21 | ZogG_laptop | arcean_: as i understand it's on/off or settings for led? |
| 22:04.51 | arcean_ | qwazix, that's not a problem, bigger issue is with the viewfinder :P |
| 22:05.13 | ZogG_laptop | what is viewfinder, sorry for noob question |
| 22:05.14 | qwazix | ZogG_laptop: I use qt creator for development, but sb for release as the qtcreator binary refuses to run as user |
| 22:05.23 | arcean_ | ZogG_laptop, no, it works as in the n900 |
| 22:05.35 | arcean_ | so if you have missed a call, led blinks |
| 22:05.40 | ZogG_laptop | qwazix: refuse coz of aegis settings or permissions? |
| 22:06.08 | qwazix | arcean_: there is a slight possibility that they are related |
| 22:06.24 | ZogG_laptop | arcean_: but how is it than related to system-ui - it's just a part of it right? so can't you make it as toggle when it turns on/off this in system ui? |
| 22:06.28 | arcean_ | qwazix, wow, interesting :) |
| 22:07.40 | qwazix | ZogG_laptop: don't know really, throws unable to open /dev/fb2 (framebuffer) and then segfaults. Works ok as developer and as root |
| 22:07.58 | ZogG_laptop | qwazix: i think it's aegis thing |
| 22:07.59 | qwazix | if i build the same thing in sb it works as user too |
| 22:08.17 | ZogG_laptop | qwazix: i would check try to check it |
| 22:08.26 | ZogG_laptop | qwazix: but not sure if i can resolve it |
| 22:08.26 | qwazix | my manifest.aegis is ok, as is the syspart.conf |
| 22:08.36 | arcean_ | ZogG_laptop, we can make it checks a gconf key after reboot |
| 22:08.39 | qwazix | also it does the same thing in open mode |
| 22:08.48 | arcean_ | but the proper way would be to create Settings applet |
| 22:09.51 | qwazix | ZogG_laptop: viewfinder is the live preview of photo before you snap. Shows black on N950 |
| 22:10.38 | ZogG_laptop | arcean_: i think toggle would be enuf for on/off now. but setting can be useful to add settings as frequacy and other options. and i think MohammadAG got it working with long press on toggles to open settings =P so i think it should be toggle like for unrestricted-system-ui |
| 22:11.24 | ZogG_laptop | qwazix: oh, i have it in qml with camera component in qml as well, but i think it' irrelevant |
| 22:13.23 | arcean_ | ZogG_laptop, sure, but there's also another thing - do we want system-ui to check a gconf key after receiving a new message or after the screen changes state? |
| 22:13.59 | ZogG_laptop | arcean_: he has system-ui settings so you can use it i think |
| 22:14.27 | ZogG_laptop | and than it truiggers the msg icon right? |
| 22:14.50 | ZogG_laptop | just add to function to check the led setting as well or something |
| 22:16.54 | arcean_ | yeah, we can start making cssu for harmattan :) |
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| 22:18.49 | qwazix | ZogG_laptop: Maybe it is, probably they have coded the camera element specifically for the N9. By the way I tried to couple qml with fcam drivers (framebuffer overlay) for some hours but I got nowhere so I reverted to plain qt with custom themed widgets. |
| 22:19.10 | arcean_ | qwazix, repo is somewhere on gitorious or github? |
| 22:19.43 | qwazix | github.com/qwazix/rawcam and forked to harmattan organization |
| 22:19.56 | qwazix | not sure if that is the right thing to do |
| 22:21.03 | qwazix | beware the code is a bit of a mess, but it was late and wanted to release something so I didn't do much cleaning or commenting. Promise that I will do though, especially since I see there is interest |
| 22:23.12 | qwazix | two questions: 1.does led notifier work on N950? |
| 22:23.20 | arcean_ | sure |
| 22:23.38 | arcean_ | the package was built for PR 1.3 |
| 22:23.52 | arcean_ | but should work on 1.2 also |
| 22:23.54 | qwazix | 2. does anybody have working dead keys for hwkb in qt apps in N950 |
| 22:24.22 | arcean_ | hmm dunno |
| 22:24.25 | qwazix | PR1.3 maybe? I read this was a qt bug |
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| 22:24.33 | arcean_ | I'm using qt-components or MTF |
| 22:25.00 | qwazix | Yeap I mean in standard apps |
| 22:25.16 | arcean_ | If you have an app or smth to test, I can check later |
| 22:27.04 | qwazix | I just loaded the Greek keyboard layout from the N900 to the N950 and the accent chatracter doesn't work as expected in any of the built in applications |
| 22:27.43 | qwazix | Tried also french to make sure it's not the layout thats wrong |
| 22:28.00 | qwazix | it prints the accent and then the character |
| 22:28.10 | arcean_ | hmm, in Polish kbd I just press SYM + character |
| 22:28.43 | qwazix | Not optimal but maybe good enough |
| 22:28.51 | qwazix | lemme check |
| 22:28.56 | arcean_ | but again, I've not tried this on Qt apps |
| 22:29.40 | qwazix | not working... |
| 22:30.15 | arcean_ | for me it worked out of the box |
| 22:30.17 | qwazix | rzr: your're using dead keys in french don't you? |
| 22:30.42 | qwazix | It's the two things I need to switch to N950 as main phone |
| 22:31.32 | arcean_ | btw If you would want to have better haptic feedback on the n950: http://meegoforum.pl/better-haptic-feedback-for-n950-t469.html |
| 22:33.45 | qwazix | arcean_: nice, I did think haptic is a bit washed-out |
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| 22:38.58 | qwazix | goodnight people, see you tomorrow |
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| 22:44.08 | PalimPalim | hello |
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| 23:29.14 | RST38h | moos at Mohammad |
| 23:29.25 | RST38h | MohammadAG: How is suffering tonight? |
| 23:29.50 | MohammadAG | RST38h: How'd you know I just logged on? |
| 23:30.20 | RST38h | MohammadAG: The old good IRCII shows join/leave messages =) |
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| 23:31.07 | virtuald | heh |
| 23:32.11 | virtuald | do ircii do ssl? or do you have to go through stunnel or somesuch if need be? |
| 23:33.25 | RST38h | Dunno: never write anything to irc that is of any value =) |
| 23:39.10 | MohammadAG | RST38h: I wasn't here? Weird, I guess my bouncer's acting up |
| 23:39.19 | MohammadAG | Oh well |
| 23:39.33 | MohammadAG | Not a lot of suffering, just need to get up in 5 hours |
| 23:40.29 | MohammadAG | Should get my iPad car mount tomorrow |
| 23:40.38 | MohammadAG | Wonder how cool/ridiculous it'll look |
| 23:40.59 | MohammadAG | Tbh at first I wanted to build a pandaboard / touchscreen car pc |
| 23:41.15 | MohammadAG | With integration to car engine and starter to start it up over 3G |
| 23:41.25 | MohammadAG | For the heck of it |
| 23:41.54 | MohammadAG | But it proved to be hard cause Linux doesn't have good car TS drivers |
| 23:56.09 | merlin1991 | hm how can I do something like onOrientationChanged in qml? |