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| 00:16.39 | fdv | is it so that qDebug doesn't work under opie? |
| 00:16.53 | fdv | it seems like that, but I can't immediately see why |
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| 05:47.56 | gints | morning |
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| 06:25.47 | pigeon | hmm, is it possible from the bootldr to write/edit a file on the jffs2 flash? |
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| 06:32.26 | Nayte | hi everyone |
| 06:33.44 | Nayte | Is there a place I can download Familiar packages whilst I figure out how to get my IRDa/USB networking figured out? |
| 06:44.40 | MonMotha | yea! I found my wifi card! |
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| 07:08.22 | CIA-1 | 03llornkcor * 10opie/noncore/apps/tinykate/mainwindow/tinykate.cpp: fix # 0001687: opening desktop file |
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| 07:16.56 | CIA-1 | 03llornkcor * 10opie/ (3 files in 3 dirs): apply patch in # 0001662, fixes build with uclibc |
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| 09:31.32 | Georgy | anyone in here who has set up a crosscompile-environment on a debian host system? |
| 09:34.27 | koen | yeah |
| 09:34.33 | koen | I use OE |
| 09:34.37 | koen | oe.handhelds.org |
| 09:34.55 | Georgy | ok, i'll try :) |
| 09:35.18 | Georgy | the debian-howto here : http://www.handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/DevelopmentToolchains is a bit outdated |
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| 09:38.57 | ljp | oe is more than just a crosscompile environment |
| 09:47.05 | pb_ | yah, oe is virtually a way of life these days |
| 09:55.26 | lpk | http://www.pretec.com/product/Mobile_peripherals/802_11b.htm |
| 09:55.45 | lpk | Does anyone have this device? I'd like to buy something that works ;) |
| 10:23.36 | zecke_ | ljp: right OE is also a tinderclient |
| 10:28.27 | Georgy | but the guide on installing OE is really good |
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| 12:14.03 | CIA-1 | 03florian * 10gpe/base/gpe-login/ (ChangeLog gpe-login.c locale.alias po/gpe-login.pot): |
| 12:14.03 | CIA-1 | Introduce a fallback solution for creating a locale list using |
| 12:14.03 | CIA-1 | locale.alias. |
| 12:19.02 | Georgy | koen: i have installed openembedded now with all that bitbake stuff and that... can i make a familiar-kernel this way? (want to try that SD-Patch) |
| 12:20.47 | zecke_ | Georgy: bitbake virtual/kernel |
| 12:21.02 | zecke_ | Georgy: if your conf/local.conf, BBPATH and BBFILES are correctly set |
| 12:21.42 | Georgy | i think so...just followed that wiki: http://oe.handhelds.org/cgi-bin/moin.cgi/GettingStarted |
| 12:22.12 | Georgy | at first i have to get the kernel-sources, to apply the patch...and then build the kernel and get it running on the ipaq |
| 12:24.38 | zecke_ | Georgy: bitbake virtual/kernel to start building your toolchain and a kernel |
| 12:24.56 | zecke_ | Georgy: if you want to apply a patch change the bitbake file of the kernel to apply your patch |
| 12:25.45 | Georgy | ah...ok... thanks, will try that |
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| 12:41.47 | dcf | eh |
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| 12:43.36 | CyHawk | hi! can you point me to some resources on how to "extend" an ipaq? that is i want to connect some hacked up circuitry to it, what is the least painful way? (i hope for something less demanding than sdio) |
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| 13:44.28 | pb_ | CyHawk: which ipaq? Older ones have a PCMCIA bus available on the 100-pin expansion connector. |
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| 13:50.32 | koen | Georgy: hh40 |
| 13:50.47 | Georgy | erhm...ok |
| 13:51.07 | Georgy | a bit surprising, but ok.. *gg* |
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| 14:02.37 | Georgy | is there a special directory where the patch-file needs to be? |
| 14:03.54 | zecke_ | Georgy: either in the same file as the bb file |
| 14:04.00 | zecke_ | Georgy: or in a directory called files/ |
| 14:04.23 | zecke_ | Georgy: or in the directory that is named ${PN}-${PV} (PN = Package Name, PV= Package Version) |
| 14:05.04 | Georgy | seems most patches that are lsited in the bb files are unter the "files" folder, i'll put it there, thanks .) |
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| 14:59.25 | CIA-1 | 03florian * 10gpe/base/gpe-login/ (ChangeLog Makefile gpe-login.c): |
| 14:59.25 | CIA-1 | Improve fallback solution to support more situations. |
| 14:59.25 | CIA-1 | Defind DEBUG only if not already defined. |
| 14:59.25 | CIA-1 | Add -Wall and a section to handle DEBUG. |
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| 15:21.03 | jamey | france: you around? some confusion about which h1 goes in the rack |
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| 15:22.06 | joshua_ | uh-oh. moving hh.org around? |
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| 15:41.24 | jamey | moving around the new servers |
| 15:42.38 | CIA-1 | 03rw * 10gpe/base/gpe-mixer/ (ChangeLog Makefile): gpe-mixer: Remove bogus '-' (resulting in '--lgpewidget' etc.) from Makefile |
| 15:48.06 | CIA-1 | 03florian * 10gpe/base/gpe-login/ (ChangeLog Makefile gpe-login.c locale.alias): |
| 15:48.06 | CIA-1 | Version 0.81 released. |
| 15:48.06 | CIA-1 | Import new file from gdm with the help of Phil's awk knowlege. |
| 15:48.06 | CIA-1 | Improve fallback solution to support more situations. |
| 15:48.06 | CIA-1 | Define DEBUG only if not already defined. |
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| 16:12.38 | CIA-1 | 03florian * 10gpe/base/gpe-mixer/ (ChangeLog gpe-mixer.c): |
| 16:12.38 | CIA-1 | Release V 0.42 |
| 16:12.38 | CIA-1 | Remove bad colour/style stuff. |
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| 16:15.54 | nullus | hello |
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| 16:18.00 | nullbinos | is Familiar v0.9 out? |
| 16:23.14 | koen | nullbinos: does the website say it's released? |
| 16:23.18 | koen | if not, it's not out yet |
| 16:27.31 | nullbinos | nothing has been mentioned yet |
| 16:27.42 | nullbinos | dates? |
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| 16:41.47 | CIA-1 | 03rw * 10gpe/base/gpe-contacts/ (ChangeLog autogen.sh configure.ac export.c): gpe-contacts: add --disable-dbus configure option |
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| 16:53.49 | CIA-1 | 03rw * 10gpe/base/gpe-contacts/ (20 files in 2 dirs): gpe-contacts: release 0.41 |
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| 17:41.54 | france_ | re-hi |
| 17:42.09 | france_ | so which browser is the most popular these days on a handheld device |
| 17:42.13 | france_ | boa, dillo |
| 17:42.21 | france_ | skipstone |
| 17:42.36 | france_ | mozilla? |
| 17:42.51 | Georgy | opie or gpe? |
| 17:42.56 | france_ | either |
| 17:43.11 | france_ | I know what I like but I am trying to figure out what is popular |
| 17:43.18 | Georgy | in opie there are not many. a commercial opera-version and konqueror-embedded |
| 17:43.23 | vIkSiT | evening all |
| 17:43.32 | Georgy | hi vIkSiT |
| 17:43.35 | france_ | evening |
| 17:43.43 | vIkSiT | hiya.. how're things? |
| 17:44.03 | vIkSiT | konq is nice.. but limited |
| 17:44.27 | vIkSiT | hmm anyone got screenies of a gpe based today system? |
| 17:44.31 | vIkSiT | +tasks, contacts etc? |
| 17:44.44 | vIkSiT | what i want from opie : a more stable task+contact+today screen |
| 17:44.54 | Georgy | vIkSiT i think there should be some screenies on handhelds.org |
| 17:45.06 | vIkSiT | none for today screens, unfrotunatly |
| 17:46.56 | mreimer | there is also a new one gpe-mini-browser in OE, built on webkit, or whatever the name of that toolkit apple released |
| 17:47.50 | joshua_ | aka khtml :P |
| 17:48.11 | mreimer | yeah |
| 17:48.13 | mreimer | hi joshua_ |
| 17:48.26 | france_ | mreimer: thanks |
| 17:48.48 | mreimer | welcome. haven't used it though |
| 17:48.56 | jg_ | joshua_: having fun at scicortex this summer? |
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| 17:49.15 | france_ | mreimer: no worries, just gathering some details |
| 17:50.29 | joshua_ | jg_: I am. |
| 17:50.30 | koen | mini-browser screenshots: http://handhelds.org/~gpe/gallery/view_album.php?set_albumName=Applications&page=3 |
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| 17:50.59 | france_ | koen: thanks |
| 17:54.25 | zecke | Subversion is berserk? |
| 17:54.47 | CIA-1 | 03mreimer * 10linux/kernel26/drivers/mtd/nand/hamcop_nand.c: Flesh out the WinCE partition scheme a little more. |
| 17:54.48 | Georgy | anyone of you who has ever used monodevelop? |
| 18:03.12 | vIkSiT | koen, any of the pim app? |
| 18:03.47 | koen | vIkSiT: ? |
| 18:04.03 | vIkSiT | koen, er.. i meant, screenshots of the gpe pim app? |
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| 18:04.56 | koen | vIkSiT: same album, first page |
| 18:05.30 | vIkSiT | ok |
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| 18:19.50 | aquadran | how nice :] finaly got proper working own opie build for h1915 |
| 18:20.11 | vIkSiT | nice.. |
| 18:20.14 | vIkSiT | :) |
| 18:28.08 | vIkSiT | hmm.. btw, whats the average install size for a GPE system? |
| 18:28.58 | vIkSiT | i've got a 5550, wondering how much space i'd have left on it.. if i install GPE? |
| 18:30.51 | vIkSiT | koen, ? |
| 18:40.33 | vIkSiT | hmm.. anyone? |
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| 18:41.10 | Georgy | vIkSiT gpe seems to be a bit larger than opie, but not that bad. tested it on my h5450 a few days ago |
| 18:41.33 | vIkSiT | ah ok.. becuse there's an 8mb difference in size.. zipped :) |
| 18:42.00 | Georgy | hmm.. at least in my case it fitted in the flsh without problems |
| 18:42.28 | Georgy | 32 MB standard-flash |
| 18:42.29 | vIkSiT | Georgy, you've got extra storage? |
| 18:44.19 | koen | vIkSiT: gpe includes more stuff than opie, like a browser and mediaplayer on h3900 images |
| 18:44.33 | vIkSiT | koen, ah.. which can be removed? |
| 18:44.39 | vIkSiT | i mean.. |
| 18:44.50 | vIkSiT | obv they can.. but after installation complete removal is possible? |
| 18:44.55 | vIkSiT | no conflicting libs or anything.. |
| 18:45.25 | koen | yes, it is removable |
| 18:45.30 | vIkSiT | great |
| 18:45.31 | koen | ipkg does a good job |
| 18:46.26 | vIkSiT | koen, so what would you say is the space requirement of a heavy duty contact list and tasks and things? |
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| 18:46.38 | vIkSiT | (the databases of this stuff, et al) |
| 18:46.47 | koen | a few 100k |
| 18:46.52 | koen | if it's really big |
| 18:47.06 | vIkSiT | ah cool.. |
| 18:47.18 | vIkSiT | and which pim apps does GPE use? |
| 18:47.36 | koen | gpe-calender, gpe-contacts, gpe-todo |
| 18:47.47 | vIkSiT | oh ok.. custom.. |
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| 18:59.37 | Georgy | got to go now, have a nice evening all |
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| 19:02.46 | prpplague | any arm asm gurus awake? |
| 19:03.11 | prpplague | pb_: ping |
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| 19:07.54 | pb_ | prpplague: at your service |
| 19:08.59 | saldana | which dhcp client is included with familiar? |
| 19:09.09 | pb_ | udhcpc. it's built in to busybox. |
| 19:10.23 | CIA-1 | 03zecke * 10opie/libopie2/opiecore/device/ (odevice.h odevice_ipaq.cpp odevice_ipaq.h): |
| 19:10.23 | CIA-1 | ODevice: |
| 19:10.23 | CIA-1 | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:10.23 | CIA-1 | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:11.34 | saldana | thanks :) |
| 19:11.46 | prpplague | pb_: when jumping to a location using BL, if the the first command there is a STMDB sp!,{r4,r5,r6,lr} , then at the end of the sub routine, a call for LDMIA sp!,{r4,r5,r6,pc} |
| 19:12.25 | prpplague | pb_: iirc, this is gonna store the values of r4,r5,r6 and lr, and then reload them setting the pc to value of lr |
| 19:12.35 | prpplague | pb_: correct? |
| 19:13.10 | pb_ | prpplague: right |
| 19:13.31 | pb_ | that's a fairly common idiom for subroutine entry/exit. |
| 19:14.11 | prpplague | pb_: ahh ok |
| 19:14.42 | prpplague | pb_: i've not done a huge amount of asm |
| 19:14.56 | prpplague | pb_: still getting used to the syntax and common techinues |
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| 19:15.50 | pb_ | prpplague: generally, subroutines are not allowed to corrupt r4-r11, so they must stack and restore those registers if they want to use them. |
| 19:17.02 | pb_ | and, on most arm cores, stm/ldm is the most efficient way (in both space and time) to do that if more than one register is involved. |
| 19:17.39 | prpplague | gotcha |
| 19:18.14 | pb_ | if the subroutine doesn't need to save any registers, it can return with just "mov pc,lr" or "bx lr" |
| 19:18.20 | prpplague | pb_: i'm |<-->| this close to cracking this bootloader |
| 19:18.30 | pb_ | hehe |
| 19:18.31 | pb_ | very good |
| 19:18.54 | prpplague | pb_: hehe, been a very educational experience, hehe |
| 19:19.12 | prpplague | pb_: these guys did a good job of obfuscating their code |
| 19:40.17 | joshua_ | ARM is fairly easy to disassemble, compared to MIPS or x86, I've found |
| 19:40.21 | joshua_ | x86 is really bad. |
| 19:42.14 | aquadran | joshua_: not always. i found one wince driver which is much difficult than equivalent x86 driver |
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| 19:43.36 | aquadran | joshua_: i think it depend on compiler which create such code |
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| 20:09.51 | prpplague | pb_: have you found any good software for use with a wiggler for stepping through code and watching the registers? |
| 20:16.14 | aquadran | pb_: i updated patch to not use irda suspend/resume which is deprecated now |
| 20:17.19 | joshua_ | aquadran, I guess. |
| 20:17.36 | joshua_ | aquadran, well-optimized x86 is fairly incomprehensible. |
| 20:21.49 | aquadran | joshua_: personaly i feel better in x86 disassembly propably related to much more experiences with that |
| 20:22.34 | pb_ | prpplague: unfortunately not |
| 20:22.45 | pb_ | aquadran: ok, very good |
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| 20:35.57 | CIA-1 | 03florian * 10gpe/base/gpe-plucker/ (Makefile unpluck/Makefile): |
| 20:36.53 | CIA-1 | 03florian * 10gpe/base/gpe-plucker/Makefile: Update makefiles to modern needs, release version 0.3. |
| 20:41.09 | CIA-1 | 03philippe * 10gpe/base/gpe-mini-browser/ (gpe-mini-browser.c hildon-mini-browser.c interface-calls.c): Extra code to avoid buttons go grazy with labels and the new toolbar API (definitely improved, time will tell if it is fixed) |
| 20:41.16 | prpplague | pb_: lovely |
| 20:41.54 | prpplague | pb_: i just want something i can see all the registers, and hit the spacebar to go the next pc address |
| 20:42.06 | prpplague | pb_: lauterbach does it nicely |
| 20:42.50 | pb_ | yeah, it sucks that there is no free solution for that. |
| 20:43.29 | prpplague | pb_: seems like it should be easy to do |
| 20:43.41 | prpplague | pb_: think i'll look into writing something |
| 20:43.49 | pb_ | fairly easy, yeah |
| 20:44.07 | pb_ | it's not totally trivial, because of the way the arm jtag interface works, but it certainly isn't an intractable problem |
| 20:44.24 | pb_ | that would be cool |
| 20:48.06 | prpplague | pb_: yea, all i need is just a box on the screen with the registers |
| 20:48.29 | prpplague | pb_: and maybe a key to restart the board |
| 20:50.56 | pb_ | right |
| 20:53.07 | prpplague | gotta run |
| 20:53.09 | prpplague | pb_: later |
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| 21:01.27 | vIkSiT | erm |
| 21:01.36 | vIkSiT | ok, need some help testing gpe.. |
| 21:01.49 | vIkSiT | i just installed.. and now it seems to be stuck on an offset check |
| 21:02.05 | vIkSiT | ....................................................Offset = 0005A0A8 |
| 21:02.06 | vIkSiT | ........................... |
| 21:02.06 | vIkSiT | .....................................................Offset = 0005A0A8 |
| 21:02.06 | vIkSiT | ........................... |
| 21:02.06 | vIkSiT | .....................................................Offset = |
| 21:02.07 | vIkSiT | whoops |
| 21:02.20 | vIkSiT | and the same offset is getting checked everytime.. |
| 21:02.24 | vIkSiT | what should I do? |
| 21:03.09 | vIkSiT | hmm... someone help me out a bit?! |
| 21:03.44 | vIkSiT | er.. france_, koen ? |
| 21:07.03 | CIA-1 | 03philippe * 10gpe/base/gpe-mini-browser/gpe-mini-browser.c: Correcting labels for Url and Fullscreen button |
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| 21:08.36 | justintodd | Hello! has anyone successfully got Bluetooth working on the IPAQ 5550 / with familiar linux 0.8.2 (h3900)? |
| 21:09.03 | vIkSiT | opie or gpe? |
| 21:09.23 | vIkSiT | pb_, around? |
| 21:09.52 | justintodd | GPE |
| 21:10.02 | vIkSiT | ah not used that much. |
| 21:10.09 | justintodd | the bluetooth controller isnt detected by default |
| 21:10.49 | justintodd | perhaps the driver isn't inserted? do you know what module corresponds to the IPAQs bluetooth controller? |
| 21:11.34 | koen | h5550 has a broken bluetooth chip |
| 21:11.48 | vIkSiT | ah.. koen .. |
| 21:11.52 | vIkSiT | any ideas about the above? |
| 21:11.59 | vIkSiT | (offset trouble?) |
| 21:12.45 | vIkSiT | can i just ctrl+c it? |
| 21:12.47 | justintodd | can i modify and recompile the driver to get it to work with out much... work? |
| 21:13.12 | vIkSiT | koen, i haven't done that thinking about possible memory damage.. is it safe to do so? |
| 21:14.24 | joshua_ | iss this while flashing bootldr? |
| 21:14.35 | joshua_ | or while flashing root? |
| 21:14.50 | vIkSiT | joshua_, after flashing root, and typing boot |
| 21:14.58 | joshua_ | just reset the system |
| 21:15.03 | vIkSiT | ok |
| 21:15.53 | vIkSiT | hmm. just did.. now what, joshua_ ? |
| 21:16.44 | vIkSiT | nothing seems to be happening actually.. |
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| 21:21.34 | vIkSiT | oh, i see this is a documented 5550 problem? |
| 21:22.24 | whitehawk | hi |
| 21:22.38 | whitehawk | opie and gpe support VGA? |
| 21:22.52 | ljp | yes |
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| 21:25.31 | whitehawk | cool cause I think more and more that in "windows mobile for pocket pc 2003 se" SE means sucks endless or sucks (for) ever |
| 21:25.35 | justintodd | where can i find the docs on it? |
| 21:26.22 | koen | justintodd: the bluetooth is broken in the hardware |
| 21:26.33 | koen | you need 2.6 and some patches to bluez to get it to work |
| 21:26.40 | koen | see the wiki and the mailinglist archives |
| 21:27.22 | vIkSiT | koen, any idea about the 5550 and fixed offset problem? |
| 21:27.34 | vIkSiT | (when booting gpe?) |
| 21:28.25 | koen | vIkSiT: no idea, is Just Works(TM) over here |
| 21:28.37 | justintodd | ok. thanks for the help |
| 21:28.53 | vIkSiT | koen, ouch ..! http://www.handhelds.org/hypermail/familiar/229/22978.html this is what i found.. |
| 21:29.55 | vIkSiT | is there anything i can do to check whats going wrong? |
| 21:30.14 | vIkSiT | i can get to the boot menu, but from there on.. it goes to the offset loop.. |
| 21:30.18 | vIkSiT | koen, .. |
| 21:31.41 | vIkSiT | could i for example, disable the scanning of the jffs2 system? |
| 21:35.08 | mreimer | bummer. I have officially bricked my h2200 :-( |
| 21:35.32 | mreimer | well, not quite--I trashed the 2nd-stage loader, but thankfully the first-stage and rescue bootloaders still work |
| 21:35.53 | mreimer | I need to find a CF card reader to get operational again |
| 21:39.32 | vIkSiT | FSCK |
| 21:39.47 | vIkSiT | i need to sleep. jeez.i did the stupidest possible thing. |
| 21:40.03 | whitehawk | bye |
| 21:40.23 | vIkSiT | through ymodem, i uploaded the entire bz2 file which had the bootldr and things **Inside it, onto the 5550 |
| 21:40.31 | vIkSiT | someone kick me! |
| 21:42.44 | koen | vIkSiT: you'd be surprised how many "your image doesn't work, you suck" "did you flash the .tar or the .jffs?" "ehm... hold on..." moments we have here |
| 21:43.21 | vIkSiT | hehe, i'm sure the images dont suck :) although i have had to redownload gpe coz of a checksum error. |
| 21:43.55 | koen | hmmm, ipkgfind doesn't know about arch |
| 21:44.27 | koen | and php it is |
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| 21:48.59 | vIkSiT | koen, what were you saying about BT on the 5550? |
| 21:49.03 | vIkSiT | broken chip? |
| 21:49.12 | vIkSiT | thought it worked fine on it.. |
| 21:49.32 | koen | see the wiki |
| 21:49.41 | vIkSiT | oh hh? |
| 21:49.42 | koen | pocketpc has a horrible hack for it |
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| 21:50.06 | vIkSiT | oh? |
| 21:50.07 | koen | they limit bluetooth to 1 slow connection |
| 21:50.24 | vIkSiT | ouch |
| 21:50.29 | koen | so you can't use a bt keyboard and mouse with the latest firmware |
| 21:50.39 | vIkSiT | thats bad. |
| 21:50.42 | koen | yeah |
| 21:50.45 | vIkSiT | so is there a workaround? |
| 21:50.51 | koen | on linux there is |
| 21:51.00 | koen | but you need 2.6 and a patched bluez |
| 21:51.16 | vIkSiT | fam is not 2.6? |
| 21:51.26 | vIkSiT | familiar* |
| 21:51.31 | koen | distro != kernel |
| 21:51.32 | jamey | not yet |
| 21:51.42 | koen | jamey: our zaurus images use 2.6 |
| 21:51.47 | koen | and the jornada ones |
| 21:51.50 | vIkSiT | i meant.. familiar doesn't use 2.6? |
| 21:51.52 | jamey | excellent! |
| 21:51.55 | vIkSiT | ah ok |
| 21:52.10 | vIkSiT | hmm.. so the work i'm doing for opiebluez.. has no meaning? |
| 21:52.11 | koen | the sleeve-compatible ipaqs still run 2.4 |
| 21:52.16 | vIkSiT | or can it only handle one connection? |
| 21:52.34 | koen | 2.4 is horribly broken for bluetooth on the h5550 |
| 21:52.52 | vIkSiT | damn! i see. so one connection is barely possible.. |
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| 21:53.38 | koen | the chip and the serial port loose synchronization and can't recover from that |
| 21:53.47 | koen | so *if* it works it's pure luck |
| 21:54.13 | vIkSiT | the bt chip and serial port lose sync? but whats the connection? |
| 21:54.28 | vIkSiT | when using bt.. i'm sure i won't be using the serial as well.. |
| 21:54.40 | koen | the h5550 has 3 serial ports |
| 21:54.49 | koen | 1 for the cradle, one for IR and one for bluetooth |
| 21:54.50 | vIkSiT | hmm? |
| 21:54.52 | vIkSiT | Ah |
| 21:55.03 | vIkSiT | damn |
| 21:57.11 | vIkSiT | so no one has actually got bt running on 2.4/5550. koen , so whats the status of 2.6 on 5550s? still on, or ? |
| 21:58.00 | pb_ | still has the "self destruct after thirty seconds" bug. |
| 21:58.41 | pb_ | there are patches to make the bluetooth stuff in 2.4 work more or less the same as in 2.6, though, if you want to try that. |
| 21:59.46 | vIkSiT | pb_, ah? |
| 21:59.58 | vIkSiT | how would that be, and has anyone tried it? |
| 21:59.58 | vIkSiT | :) |
| 22:04.14 | vIkSiT | and gpe has no package manager? |
| 22:05.32 | koen | settings -> package manager |
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| 22:14.06 | france_ | security updates to apache finished, let me know if there are any issues. |
| 22:18.02 | koen | france_: is the php on hh.org really old or really insecure? |
| 22:18.15 | koen | or option 2: did someone update ipkgfind? |
| 22:18.23 | koen | s/2/3/ |
| 22:19.20 | france_ | I think it is php 4.3.x |
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| 22:19.49 | koen | somewhere around that version they fixed a security issue |
| 22:20.13 | koen | you could pass arbitrary variables into the script via http get |
| 22:20.33 | koen | like 'logged_in=1' |
| 22:20.49 | mreimer | ouch |
| 22:21.13 | koen | newer versions require $_GET['logged_in'] to access http get vars |
| 22:21.38 | koen | you can still turn on the insecure option, though |
| 22:22.36 | koen | ipkgfind cvs HEAD is using the old method, that's why I wondered |
| 22:23.08 | france_ | koen: sounds like a project for somebody to update it :-D |
| 22:23.27 | france_ | koen: next week andy is working on the website, so I suspect everything will get changed about |
| 22:23.35 | koen | cool |
| 22:23.48 | prpplague | pb_: have you looked at armtool? |
| 22:23.54 | koen | france_: I rewrote ipkgfind as a drupal module: http://ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl/drupal/?q=ipkgfind&pnm=tslib-conf |
| 22:24.09 | koen | that's the site I use to test nasty hacks on |
| 22:24.14 | pb_ | prpplague: nope |
| 22:24.32 | koen | so I have a debugged version to run on hh.org |
| 22:28.01 | france_ | nods |
| 22:28.22 | prpplague | pb_: http://hri.sourceforge.net/tools/armtool.html |
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| 23:10.37 | koen | 'night all |
| 23:10.41 | mreimer | night koen |
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