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00:08.45 | joshua_ | ibot botmail for jamey: the current thought is something at SiCortex.. startup founded by lots of ex-DEC folk building some sort of massively parallel something. assuming that they in fact make me an offer, I would be bringing up the "node boards" (loading boot code into the CPU's icache from some sort of mcu) |
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00:15.09 | pigeon | does anyone know any good profiling/memcheck tools for/on arm? |
00:15.42 | kergoth`bbl | what sort of profiling are you looking for? |
00:15.46 | kergoth`bbl | there are intrusive ones like gprof |
00:15.52 | kergoth`bbl | or system level non intrusive ones like oprofile |
00:15.53 | kergoth`bbl | or.. |
00:16.01 | kergoth`bbl | depends on your needs |
00:17.10 | pigeon | hmm... in fact, trying to track down a memory leak... the app running on the desktop doesn't seem to trigger the same problem... |
00:17.34 | kergoth`bbl | sounds like you really want valgrind.. too bad it doesnt support arm :\ |
00:17.42 | pigeon | exactly :( |
00:17.51 | prpplague | kergoth`bbl: your still here, get in your car and go away, hehe |
00:17.58 | pigeon | i valgrinded on the desktop and it says nothing. |
00:18.01 | kergoth`bbl | i suppose you could use one of those malloc checking apps, the libs you link to that wrap the calls |
00:18.11 | pigeon | and this is uclibc... -pg doesn't work :\ |
00:18.19 | pigeon | hmm... i suppose... |
00:18.21 | kergoth`bbl | prpplague: taking a break, i'm really out of shape. got winded carrying bags to the car |
00:18.24 | kergoth`bbl | heh |
00:18.42 | prpplague | kergoth`bbl: hehe |
00:18.54 | kergoth`bbl | if i manage to fit all my stuff, it'll be a miracle |
00:19.09 | prpplague | btdt |
00:19.36 | kergoth`bbl | thinking of maybe shipping some stuff to myself in the morning, but i'd really rather leave within an hour from now |
00:19.37 | kergoth`bbl | bleh |
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00:20.43 | kergoth`bbl | alright, enough irc, time to avoid distractions and get moving. if i leave tonight, i'll be back tomorrow evening sometime. |
00:20.48 | zecke | hey lorn |
00:20.54 | prpplague | kergoth`bbl: bummer |
00:21.02 | prpplague | kergoth`bbl: gonna be a long drive |
00:21.07 | kergoth`gone | 14 hours |
00:21.17 | kergoth`gone | gonna stop at a hotel tonight instead of going straight through |
00:21.21 | prpplague | kergoth`gone: be careful d00d |
00:21.22 | kergoth`gone | no point rushing it |
00:21.24 | kergoth`gone | yea |
00:21.27 | kergoth`gone | later man |
00:21.28 | prpplague | later |
00:21.40 | zecke | kergoth`gone: cya :) |
00:22.18 | joshua_ | where's he heading off to? |
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00:48.15 | Paleo | Hi |
00:49.31 | Paleo | I installed the bootloader on my iPaq. When I hold joystick and press reset, the bootload appear. But I can't do anything else then "boot FlashROM". the console only highlight when I hold the button, and then nothing happens. Also, booting PocketPC always reset it settings. |
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01:44.21 | HeLfReZ | anyone had problems with quicklauncher disappearing in opie 1.2.0? |
01:49.11 | HeLfReZ | ?? anyoen here? |
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02:13.09 | Paleo | opie's crashing when I put it in the USB cradle :S |
02:14.55 | HeLfReZ | dont think anyones here hehe |
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03:05.31 | nickv111 | Hmm, http://www.handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/HpIpaqH5400 states that there is no battery monitor. Is there a way to check the status of a battery without this? |
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05:48.30 | gints|wrk | hey all |
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08:10.56 | koen | good morning all |
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08:21.14 | kammicazze | hi |
08:25.03 | newlook_ | nickv111: The opie battery applet on my 5450 appears to work okay. |
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09:23.13 | ascent | Hm, still having problems with bluetooth on ipaq 2210, anyone got that working ? |
09:28.33 | ascent | Hm, same for SD. It seems, according to the mailinglist, that mmc works, but SD doesn't. Can anyone in here confirm that? |
09:34.56 | newlook_ | Anyone know what the status of the headphone jack under hh37 (no additional audio modules installed) is on a h5450? Internal speaker works wonderful, required pxa modules are loaded as noted in mailing list archives. |
09:36.34 | koen | newlook_: it's fix as of hh39 |
09:36.46 | koen | hh37 needs the hpswitch binary |
09:38.12 | newlook_ | koen: alrighty, thanks. |
09:39.00 | newlook_ | I seem to find all the not so well mentioned items. hehe |
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09:47.07 | ascent | Anyone ever ran into a program which converts images to the raw format fb0 uses? |
09:47.38 | koen | handhelds.org/scap |
09:47.54 | koen | that does the reverse :) |
09:48.07 | ascent | I know :) |
09:48.23 | ascent | getting the images ain't the problem, but the perl used there is way to obfuscated for me :) |
09:48.38 | koen | display the image -> cat /dev/fb0 > image.raw |
09:48.40 | ascent | So getting it to do the reverse doesn't seem too trivial for the novice perl programmer :) |
09:48.42 | koen | that's the easiest way |
09:48.53 | ascent | I know, but the other way around |
09:48.59 | ascent | I have file.png, and want it to display on the ipaq |
09:49.03 | ascent | so I need to convert it |
09:49.08 | ascent | to rgb565 to be precise |
09:49.15 | ascent | and gimp doesn't seem to do it, nor paint shop pro |
09:49.43 | koen | display it fullscreen in opie/gpe and dump the fb |
09:51.06 | ascent | Hm.. How can I display a png fullscreen in opie ? |
09:51.33 | koen | opie-eye or something? |
09:53.13 | ascent | LEts see :) |
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10:01.38 | ascent | koen: seems to work, good tip! |
10:19.37 | zap | ascent: you can also try zgv which can display pictures on fb |
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10:20.24 | ascent | opie-eye seesm to do the job |
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11:01.59 | Moshe | <PROTECTED> |
11:02.06 | Moshe | haret-dump mmu |
11:02.53 | Moshe | this one is from a axim x30, where linux boots, x50 ,where it doestn't this is another adress |
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11:22.34 | ascent | Nice, bluetooth works, let's try sound now. |
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12:13.55 | guylhem1 | hello |
12:14.15 | guylhem1 | still looking for linux-2.6.11-rc4-bk11 to apply ipaq1940/acer n30 support patches |
12:16.22 | koen | isn't that on kernel.org? |
12:17.11 | koen | or in the kernel bk? |
12:17.30 | guylhem1 | I tried to get handheld.org version - the patch don't apply cleanly |
12:17.46 | guylhem1 | I tried to get the latest 2.6.12rc4 figuring 11 was a typo - same problem :-/ |
12:18.10 | guylhem1 | It's on http://rtpnet.nerim.net/ipaq/2.6.11-bk1/2.6.11-bk1-h1940.patch |
12:18.17 | guylhem1 | oops - old version |
12:18.19 | koen | the h1940 person it anti-handhelds.org, so I guessed it would fail to apply |
12:18.34 | mickeyl | who would be that ? |
12:18.40 | koen | ben dooks |
12:19.06 | guylhem1 | they're publishing patches, but no tarball to apply them |
12:19.22 | Arjan | guylhem1: you can get 2.6.11-bk1 from kernel.org, and after that apply the patch |
12:19.25 | Arjan | it's really simple |
12:19.38 | guylhem1 | Arjan - it's not bk1, that's a typo |
12:19.53 | mickeyl | koen: ah, ben. right. i guess that doesn't matter as long as he submits patches upstream. |
12:20.17 | guylhem1 | I purchased a n30 since it's apprently not far from being supported : http://zoo.weinigel.se/n30/ |
12:20.17 | koen | mickeyl: I think he does |
12:20.44 | guylhem1 | On http://zoo.weinigel.se/n30/downloads/ you'll see 2611-rc4-bk11-hh2-n30-2.diff |
12:20.45 | koen | someone needs to convert the hh.org SoC to the platformbus and submit that upstream |
12:21.21 | Arjan | guylhem1: I have the bk1 patch right here :) |
12:21.29 | Arjan | just looking to find it on kernel.org where I downloaded it |
12:21.47 | guylhem1 | Arjan - I need rc4-bk11 - And I've no idea where I can find 2611-rc4-bk11-hh2 |
12:21.51 | mickeyl | koen: yes, that would be important. |
12:21.53 | mickeyl | (soc) |
12:22.04 | guylhem1 | When I saw hh2 I though it was for hh.org kernel :-/ |
12:22.06 | Arjan | guylhem1: why not just use the latest patch? |
12:22.38 | guylhem1 | Arjan, rc1 seem anterior to rc4 |
12:22.58 | Arjan | the latest is 2.6.11-bk1-h1940 |
12:23.01 | guylhem1 | mickey, is there no samsung cpu support in hh 2.6 ccurrently & |
12:23.12 | guylhem1 | Arjan - really? interesting. |
12:23.23 | Arjan | guylhem1: http://handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/HpIpaqH1940Downloads |
12:23.29 | mickeyl | guylhem1: no idea. i'm not tracking hh.org kernel tree except pestering people to submit stuff to russell |
12:23.32 | mickeyl | or the other guys |
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12:25.44 | guylhem1 | Arjan- do you have that kernel ? can you check if http://zoo.weinigel.se/n30/2611-rc4-bk11-hh2-n30-2.diff applies or if it's already nicluded in? |
12:26.01 | Arjan | yes, I do have that kernel |
12:26.36 | Arjan | but the n30 is not the same as the h1940, so I guess there are some big differences apart from the patch being for 2.6.11-rc4-bk11-hh2 |
12:27.29 | guylhem1 | I couldn't reach the n30 guy. I asked him a link to the version against which the patch was done, no reply :/ |
12:27.44 | Arjan | btw, your link doesn't exist |
12:27.50 | guylhem1 | let me check it |
12:28.22 | guylhem1 | http://zoo.weinigel.se/n30/downloads/2611-rc4-bk11-hh2-n30-2.diff |
12:30.21 | guylhem1 | I can send you a copy by email if you want |
12:30.55 | Arjan | I have it now |
12:31.10 | Arjan | but as I guessed, it doesn't apply |
12:31.33 | guylhem1 | [weinigel.se is firewalled by my isp (tele2) - wonder why] |
12:32.35 | guylhem1 | looks like it need a "hh2" tree. That sounds a lot like handhelds.org ? |
12:32.37 | Arjan | is the n30 more or less the same device as the h1940? |
12:32.42 | guylhem1 | mostly |
12:32.50 | Arjan | that's the hh.org tree, yes |
12:33.04 | guylhem1 | it's got some specific stuff which weinigel patches fixes |
12:35.22 | Arjan | I guess you should be able to get 2.6.11-rc4-bk11-hh2 from hh.org cvs, but I dont have enough experience with cvs to know how to do that |
12:37.40 | guylhem1 | Arjan - I think I got it - read http://rtpnet.nerim.net/ipaq/2.6.11-bk1/changelog |
12:38.01 | guylhem1 | bk1 supercedes 2.6.11-rc4-bk11 |
12:38.49 | guylhem1 | hopefully n30 patch against 2.6.11-rc4-bk11 will apply against 2.6.11-bk1 as well. In the worst case I'll fix it by hand. |
12:39.12 | Arjan | fixing it by hand would definitely be possible, just look in the *.rej files |
12:39.38 | guylhem1 | Arjan, do you have a 1940 ? |
12:39.45 | Arjan | yep |
12:40.08 | guylhem1 | how is 2.6.11-bk1 working on it? what's not working yet? |
12:41.06 | Arjan | see the status page on the wiki :) not working: BT, Power, Sound, BL |
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12:41.34 | guylhem1 | I saw the status page- I'm asking you because it differs from n30 report |
12:41.58 | guylhem1 | which says bt is working. regarding power, I guess it's suspend/resume. |
12:42.29 | Arjan | well, since I can't get usbnet (ethernet gadget) to work, I can't test anything :( |
12:43.59 | Arjan | would you know which BT chip is in the n30? is it the same (Zeevo) as in the h1940? if so, that would be very good news for the h1940 port |
12:44.45 | koen | Arjan: if it's hooked up to the uart it should work out of the box |
12:44.55 | koen | the zeevo works with hci_uart on the h2210 |
12:46.03 | Arjan | koen: it's indeed hooked up to the uart |
12:47.54 | Arjan | if I ever get usbnet running, it's one of the first things I'll try |
12:50.06 | Arjan | koen: do you have experience with usbnet? whatever I do, it never works :( |
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12:51.23 | koen | Arjan: it "just works" over here with 2.6 on both ends, that's all I know |
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12:53.04 | Arjan | koen: do you need to unload the ipaq and usbserial modules from your workstation before connecting the linux ipaq? |
12:54.27 | koen | not that I know off |
12:54.37 | koen | but I don't have them loaded anyway |
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13:08.10 | ascent | hmm, Kernel panic - not syncing: Attempted to kill init! |
13:08.18 | ascent | That's the last line on the console, but the ipaq keeps running fine :) |
13:08.22 | ascent | init no longer required ? |
13:09.12 | Korvin | hmm =) |
13:09.23 | Korvin | what version do you have? |
13:10.03 | Korvin | (familiar) |
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13:39.58 | Moshe | is there a staticly compiled X somewhere? |
13:40.19 | Moshe | i need to put it into a initrd |
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13:44.30 | newl | wicked, bitbake has had a massive speed boost in the past three weeks |
13:48.54 | prpplague | newl: yea, there was a new series of improvments |
13:49.07 | prpplague | newl: including a huge drop in memory requirements |
13:49.14 | newl | and then some |
13:49.31 | newl | it uses tops of 11MB now. That's outstanding. |
13:50.16 | mickeyl | second wave of revamping will tackle parsing speed |
13:50.27 | mickeyl | but that'll take a while to develop |
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13:59.37 | pb_ | hi all |
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14:01.30 | Nermal | ibot seen tanget |
14:01.37 | ibot | Nermal: i haven't seen 'tanget' |
14:01.37 | Nermal | ibot seen tangemt |
14:01.38 | ibot | i haven't seen 'tangemt', Nermal |
14:01.41 | Nermal | ibot seen tangent |
14:01.42 | ibot | tangent is currently on #intimate (2m 44s) |
14:01.46 | Nermal | ah :) |
14:02.02 | koen | intimate is back from the dead? |
14:02.19 | jamey | hi pb_ |
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14:02.54 | jamey | I haven't managed to update a dns server yet, but ddnsv6d is sending updates to the server |
14:05.01 | pb_ | hi jamey |
14:05.03 | pb_ | ah, cool |
14:05.15 | jamey | also, if hostname is hostname.domainname, it tacks that all on the front of the dynamic domain name |
14:05.40 | prpplague | pb_: philbert! |
14:05.45 | pb_ | oh, right, whoops. I guess none of my machines are set up that way. |
14:05.59 | pb_ | should be easy enough to have it strip off the bit it doesn't want. |
14:06.20 | pb_ | prpplague: g'day |
14:06.21 | Nermal | I was thinking of a 5550 ? any thoughts ? |
14:06.32 | jamey | pb_: it doesn't seem to work on a laptop using 6to4 though |
14:07.23 | koen | Nermal: bluetooth support might improve and 2.6 support is in the works |
14:07.39 | koen | Nermal: it does still have the strange powermanagement bugs |
14:07.40 | Nermal | koen, I hear the newer models aren't as well supported |
14:07.43 | prpplague | pb_: hey, awhile back rmk and wrikm were discussing making some changes in the way the arm machine registry was being done, do you know if anything came out of that? |
14:07.54 | koen | Nermal: hx2xxx should do well |
14:07.56 | Nermal | 48mb of ram :O |
14:08.02 | prpplague | s/wrikm/erikm |
14:08.03 | Nermal | the 2200 ? |
14:08.03 | koen | as well as the h2210 and hx4700 |
14:08.11 | Nermal | humm |
14:08.19 | Nermal | 4700 better for linux atm than the 5550 ? |
14:08.44 | koen | not entirely sure about that |
14:08.54 | Nermal | hmm. I want integrated wifi :| |
14:08.56 | pb_ | jamey: maybe you don't get netlink notifications for addresses that were added manually. |
14:09.01 | Nermal | so the 2200 is out :/ |
14:09.09 | pb_ | prpplague: not that I know of |
14:09.39 | newl | strange sounds about right. with 0.8.2 and hh37, my 5450's display will blank after awhile and won't come back unless opie is restarted. hehe |
14:10.37 | prpplague | pb_: so i have a question then, how do normally handle machine numbers for boards that you never intend on releasing? use a bogus number? |
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14:11.33 | pb_ | prpplague: varies. if I expect the board to be around for a while, I normally register it and get a proper number. if it's a one-off prototype, I either reuse an old number or just pick a random bogus one. |
14:11.41 | jamey | pb_: maybe the address didn't actually get re-added when I did ifdown; ifup. It does get notifications for manual address configuration. |
14:12.22 | prpplague | pb_: for the boards you register, do you try to push patchs, or just register and keep the code internal? |
14:12.52 | pb_ | prpplague: just register the number, then keep the code internal. I figure there's no point sending patches for a board that nobody else will ever see, unless there's something particularly interesting about the supporting software. |
14:13.22 | pb_ | of course, if I end up writing drivers that could be reused on other platforms, I do try to get them merged. |
14:14.26 | prpplague | pb_: hmm, the only problem with registering is that we sometimes don't want our competition knowing we have a new product in the works |
14:14.35 | pb_ | jamey: ah, right |
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14:15.08 | lonewolff | i wonder if anyone can help me, i cant seem to get my ipaq to connect to my wireless network |
14:15.31 | lonewolff | i have set the encryption key and essid and the wifi light goes green saying its connected but it never gets and ip |
14:16.06 | lonewolff | oh hello there nermal |
14:17.11 | newl | lonewolff: KISS. Disable all encryption, make sure the ESSID is in upper case, the correct channel is chosen, etc. |
14:17.22 | newl | Once it works from there, start enabling other things. |
14:18.05 | lonewolff | newl: it should work, it was working yesterday |
14:18.18 | lonewolff | i cant disable encryption as that will disconnect all my devices |
14:18.46 | newl | Can't means won't try. :) |
14:19.05 | pb_ | prpplague: mm, I guess that could be a problem. obviously, you don't need to say anything about what the product is when you register it, but if the very fact that you are working on something new is confidential, I guess registering it is not an option. |
14:19.07 | newl | It's all part of trouble shooting..strip everything back to what _should_ work. |
14:19.29 | lonewolff | newl: i regret asking now, ill just go work it out myself |
14:19.59 | newl | hokay |
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14:27.22 | ascent | grmbl, battery status @ 2210 is weird. |
14:29.12 | lonewolff | hmmm wep works fine after a reflash but stopped working before :S thats strange |
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14:34.47 | Korvin | Anybody knows how to connect ordinary USB devices (such as USB flash drive) to PocketPC? |
14:35.36 | mickeyl | What is a 'PocketPC' ? |
14:35.50 | guylhem1 | a windows thingy. no good |
14:36.00 | guylhem1 | get a handheld instead :-) |
14:36.11 | newl | It's the new hand held Amiga. :D |
14:36.19 | koen | Korvin: ratoc cfu1u |
14:37.10 | ascent | Should battery monitoring already work, kernel wise? |
14:37.18 | ascent | I modprobe'ed apm and battery, both load fine |
14:37.29 | ascent | gives me a /proc/apm, but the battery level is -1 :) |
14:37.36 | ascent | (also with power disconnected) |
14:37.51 | Korvin | What is a 'PocketPC' ? | ipaq for instance %) |
14:38.13 | Korvin | sorry guys, i found it by myself |
14:38.21 | Korvin | already :) |
14:38.47 | Korvin | if in doubt: http://handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/UsbHost :) |
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14:49.46 | ascent | hm, opie doesn't build with OE for now, using their wiki |
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15:08.00 | Arjan | koen: is there a way to tell hci_uart to use a specific uart for BT? |
15:09.19 | pb_ | It uses the one you tell it with hciattach. |
15:11.10 | Arjan | I should have known that |
15:11.21 | Arjan | definitely time to go home... bye! |
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15:19.16 | guylhem1 | anyone with a Samsung S3C2410 handheld (ex: 1940, n30) ? |
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16:00.09 | Paleo | any idea why opie's crashing when I put it in the USB cradle ? |
16:00.10 | prpplague | pb_: hehe, sharp uses the term "porch" instead of "margin" in their docs on lcds, guess it was translated from japanesse or something |
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16:09.16 | Korvin | when I put it in the USB cradle ? | what handheld do you have/ |
16:09.17 | Korvin | ? |
16:13.42 | pb_ | prpplague: that term comes from old-style analogue video |
16:14.05 | prpplague | pb_: ahh |
16:15.14 | prpplague | pb_: hey, quick question, have you run across a kernel module/driver that makes char dev nodes for gpios? (ie /dev/gpioa0 /dev/gioa2 etc...) |
16:18.05 | pb_ | no, not that I can think of |
16:18.12 | pb_ | actually, I was looking for something like that myself earlier today. |
16:18.29 | prpplague | pb_: i've started work on one, just haven't finished it yet |
16:18.54 | prpplague | pb_: we want to make a couple of 8 bit gpio banks available to the end user |
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16:23.23 | pb_ | prpplague: yah, I have a similar requirement on the s3c2410 |
16:24.14 | pb_ | not actually end users, but I need to control a few banks of gpios from application code, and it doesn't really justify a dedicated kernel driver. |
16:26.32 | pb_ | hrm, I wish busybox ifupdown would pass the hostname to udhcpc without needing it listed explicitly in the interfaces file. |
16:27.02 | pb_ | or, alternatively, I wish busybox udhcpc would send the hostname without needing to be told it on the commandline. |
16:27.03 | pb_ | heh |
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16:46.24 | pb_ | mreimer: yo |
16:46.30 | mreimer | hi pb! |
16:46.48 | koen|supper | hey mreimer |
16:46.57 | mreimer | hey koen. how's supper? |
16:47.26 | mreimer | pb_: I got suspend/resume to work on h2200 with wince's bootloader |
16:47.31 | pb_ | mreimer: awesome! |
16:47.36 | mreimer | pb_: with a nasty, evil hack |
16:47.40 | pb_ | using some variant of the Purdie technique? |
16:47.48 | mreimer | what's the Purdie technique? |
16:48.01 | koen|supper | the hx2700 way |
16:48.03 | mreimer | I looked but couldn't find anything about how he did it |
16:48.26 | pb_ | I'm not sure, exactly. I think he reserves some special memory region and stuffs magic values in there for the bootloader to restore its state from. |
16:48.47 | pb_ | iirc, it expects to read the system state from a hard-wired address in sdram. |
16:48.51 | koen | mreimer: congrats! (and the supper was good) |
16:48.51 | mreimer | was it discussed here, or on one of the lists? |
16:48.59 | pb_ | either here or in #oe |
16:49.25 | pb_ | it was a few weeks ago now, but ibot's logs should have the details |
16:50.03 | prpplague | pb_: so are you gonna write a driver? |
16:50.08 | mreimer | on h2200 the wince bootloader jumps to 0xa0040000 rather than referencing PSPR, so what I do (forgive me Koen, since you just ate) is, when suspending, to save whatever three words are at that address and stuff some relocatable assembly that moves PSPR into pc; then on resume I restore those three words. |
16:50.09 | prpplague | pb_: for the gpio's that is |
16:50.38 | mallum | mreimer: speak to RP, he did a similar thing on 2750 |
16:50.52 | mreimer | RP: you there? |
16:51.07 | mreimer | mallum: thanks |
16:51.13 | mreimer | Spyro will need to do something similar |
16:52.08 | pb_ | prpplague: yah, probably. I did have an old one that I used on the xscale, which exported some kind of ioctl interface. |
16:52.30 | pb_ | it was a bit gruesome and machine specific, though, since the ioctl argument was a struct with one bit per pin. |
16:53.43 | prpplague | pb_: since my gpios are grouped in 8bit banks, i was thinking of doing something like gpioa would be for all 8 bits and gpioa0 be for bit 0 |
16:54.19 | pb_ | mreimer: ah, right. yeah, that sounds fairly similar to the hx2700 situation. iirc, on those, the bootloader expects to find a register dump at 0xa000mumble, which it just loads back up. the register set includes the PC, so you can make it jump to whereever you like after that. |
16:54.31 | prpplague | pb_: then have an ioctl for input/output where you could either cat or echo to it the node |
16:54.35 | RP | mreimer: hello |
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16:55.24 | pb_ | mreimer: your solution sounds OK to me. shuffling data around like that is a bit gruesome, but I can't think of any good alternative. You can't really punch a hole in the kernel image at that point. |
16:56.13 | FearLess | can someone please tell me how to get my ipaq 3970 in bootloader? |
16:56.20 | mreimer | RP: I hear you got hx2700 working with the wince bootloader. We have a similar situation on h2200, where the bootloader jumps to 0xa0040000 rather than pulling pc from PSPR. Can you describe how you got it working? I'm just saving and restoring enough words at that address to stuff code in there to move PSPR into pc. |
16:57.15 | RP | mreimer: Taking advantage of the jump was my original plan for the hx2700 but I found a different segment of the bootloader read some weird structure pointed to by PSPR. I therefore created that structure in Linux and filled it with some magic values that jump to Linux |
16:57.46 | mreimer | RP: can you point me to the code where you do that? |
16:58.14 | mreimer | pb_: ok. Should I wrap that vulgarity with a test for machine type == h2200 and commit it to mach-pxa/pm.c? Of course that will never go upstream. :-) |
16:58.55 | RP | mreimer: Look for hx2750_pxa_pm_enter in http://www.rpsys.net/openzaurus/patches/ipaq/hx2750_base-r14.patch |
16:58.58 | FearLess | can someone please tell me how to get my ipaq 3970 in bootloader? , the manual says press the joypad butten and reset but that doesnot work for me. |
16:59.03 | pb_ | mreimer: sure |
16:59.11 | mreimer | RP: thanks |
16:59.25 | pb_ | mreimer: I don't think there's any real reason why it couldn't go upstream, at least not in principle. |
16:59.30 | RP | mreimer: Have a look at how I've altered pm.c in this next patch before you do that |
16:59.52 | pb_ | FearLess: that is the correct procedure |
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17:00.08 | mreimer | pb_: If I were to send it upstream, I might use a pseudonym ;-) |
17:00.20 | RP | mreimer: Actually, its in the above patch - also see the changes to pm.c |
17:00.22 | pb_ | mreimer: heh |
17:00.46 | RP | mreimer: You might also need http://www.rpsys.net/openzaurus/patches/corgi_power1-r1.patch |
17:00.49 | mreimer | RP: ok, and then I'll check our bootloader. yours is HTC, right? |
17:00.55 | FearLess | pb_: it keeps just starting windows ce, and all i see in my hyperterm session is CLIENTCLIENTCLIENT |
17:01.05 | RP | mreimer: wrong. Its mircosoft derived |
17:01.11 | pb_ | FearLess: do you actually have the handhelds.org bootloader installed? |
17:01.40 | RP | mreimer: If yours jumps directly to a value, you'll need your method, not mine |
17:01.46 | FearLess | pb: yes, but i will upload it again then |
17:01.52 | RP | You can still use the changes to pm.c though |
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17:02.12 | mreimer | RP: yes, it does jump to 0xa0040000, which happens to be smack dab in the middle of the kernel |
17:02.57 | RP | mreimer: Right - Your plan is what I was orignally planning to do before I found this other segment of the hx2700 bootloader |
17:03.24 | mreimer | RP: I wish I could do things your way--your changes to pm.c are much cleaner. |
17:04.05 | RP | mreimer: You should be able to use those changes |
17:04.40 | mreimer | RP: how? |
17:04.56 | mreimer | RP: I'm looking at the pspr changes |
17:05.57 | RP | mreimer: You need to look a bit closer. See the bit which says:+pxa_pm_enter_orig=pxa_pm_ops.enter; |
17:05.59 | RP | +pxa_pm_ops.enter=hx2750_pxa_pm_enter; |
17:06.31 | mreimer | RP: ah, I see, in hx2750_test.c |
17:06.39 | RP | You can then intercept the call to pxa_pm_enter with your own function |
17:07.02 | RP | You setup the memory structure there (and set the pspr value) |
17:07.13 | RP | You then call the original saved function |
17:07.48 | RP | There are a number of further insane things you can do with this - see corgi_power-r22.patch for some really evil usage :) |
17:07.48 | mreimer | ok, I see. That's much cleaner. So that's where I'd save/restore my three words and stuff my code in. |
17:08.27 | RP | Yes, you'd alter your three words of memory, then call pm_enter_pxa |
17:08.33 | RP | pxa_pm_enter even |
17:09.03 | RP | Its clean enough to probably get mainline acceptance |
17:09.13 | RP | You'll probably need http://www.rpsys.net/openzaurus/patches/corgi_power1-r1.patch |
17:09.31 | mreimer | RP: are you planning to push this upstream? |
17:09.48 | RP | mreimer: yes, once the corgi_power code is stable |
17:10.01 | RP | I'll certain ask on the arm-linux list about including it |
17:10.21 | mreimer | RP: are you planning to commit to hh.o cvs in the meantime? |
17:10.32 | mreimer | RP: or would you mind if I did, for the h2200 folks? |
17:10.43 | RP | mreimer: I can do. I really need to update the hx2700 code in there |
17:10.50 | RP | feel free to push it yourself though |
17:12.02 | mreimer | RP: I'm going to be traveling this next week starting tomorrow; if you don't get to it before then, I'll tease out the pm.c changes from your patches and commit those. |
17:12.13 | mreimer | RP: thanks for your help, and for the clean solution |
17:12.40 | koen | mreimer: holidaytrip? |
17:12.59 | RP | mreimer: np, I'll try and get the hx2750 code synced up |
17:13.52 | mreimer | koen: sort of. my youngest sister is graduating from high school, so the whole family is coming from all over the US to get together to celebrate. It'll be quite a week with all 16 of us (including kids) crammed into my parents' house. :-) |
17:14.21 | koen | mreimer: congrats for your sister |
17:14.41 | mreimer | koen: thanks |
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18:43.56 | Spyro | hi guys |
18:44.13 | Spyro | has anyone here used JTAG on a SA1100 ? |
18:44.32 | pb_ | yes, but it was years ago. |
18:44.45 | Spyro | pb_: I have trouble with mine |
18:44.58 | Spyro | pb_: I have nTRST tied high |
18:45.28 | Spyro | pb_: and the other signals connected to my parallel port via an adapter which worked for the PXA chips ive jtagged |
18:45.39 | pb_ | right |
18:45.48 | Spyro | but I get an all zero device id |
18:47.15 | pb_ | oh dear. |
18:47.30 | pb_ | well, I guess the strongarm is electrically a bit different to the pxa255. Maybe it doesn't like your adapter for some reason. |
18:47.40 | pb_ | can you inspect the signals to see what's going on? |
18:48.17 | Spyro | im scoping up the thing as we type |
18:51.06 | Spyro | curious... tdo does appear to be changing state... |
18:51.28 | koen | busted cap? |
18:51.52 | Spyro | no cap inline there |
18:52.35 | koen | speaking of jtag, is there a jtag+kbd solution out there I could build? |
18:53.09 | koen | my googlepowers were too weak |
18:53.30 | pb_ | heh, I don't even know what jtag+kbd is. |
18:54.17 | koen | kdb |
18:54.50 | pb_ | oh, right, that makes a bit more sense. |
18:55.05 | pb_ | I was trying to figure out why you could possibly want a keyboard combined wth jtag |
18:55.25 | Spyro | heh. me also :) |
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19:18.18 | Spyro | weird. |
19:18.31 | Spyro | Im watching TDO as I clock the data |
19:18.40 | Spyro | it seems to pulse instead of hold its level |
19:19.59 | joshua_ | jamey: ping |
19:20.08 | mreimer_ | hey joshua_! |
19:20.12 | joshua_ | hi matt |
19:20.31 | mreimer_ | when does school get out for the summer? |
19:20.55 | Spyro | hey, joshua |
19:21.12 | joshua_ | few weeks...june 17 |
19:21.16 | Spyro | joshua_: why do you set TDO high when clocking data in in libjtag ? |
19:21.42 | joshua_ | going on vacation in Little Cayman for a week after, though |
19:21.44 | joshua_ | spyro: looking |
19:21.46 | mreimer_ | joshua_: hopefully no more lame papers to write with predetermined theses and conclusions? |
19:21.55 | mreimer_ | joshua_: cool! do you dive? |
19:22.24 | joshua_ | mreimer_: I do. I got my advanced openwater cert last summer. |
19:23.27 | joshua_ | spyro: line? |
19:23.39 | mreimer_ | joshua_: sweet! should be nice down there |
19:24.09 | joshua_ | mreimer_: as far as I know, no more papers with predetermined theses... I think the new one gives me a thesis option |
19:24.20 | mreimer_ | joshua_: cool |
19:24.23 | Spyro | joshua_: grep for PROG |
19:24.50 | joshua_ | that's interesting |
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19:25.00 | joshua_ | I'm not really sure. |
19:25.09 | joshua_ | it shouldn't be needed. |
19:25.16 | Spyro | indeed |
19:25.32 | Spyro | its a bit naughty Id have thought... |
19:25.37 | Spyro | driving an output... |
19:26.35 | joshua_ | well, it's not actually driving it |
19:26.43 | joshua_ | you read TDO from the control pins |
19:26.58 | Spyro | hm yes of course |
19:26.59 | joshua_ | so that's just driving d7, as opposed to SLCT, ERROR, etc |
19:27.29 | Spyro | how odd anyhow |
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19:29.32 | lonewolff | i finally got wifi working, but i wonder if anyone can help me with an nfs issue, i try to mount an nfs share, it doesent give any errors but when i cd to the mountpoint there is nothing there |
19:34.41 | koen | yup, it's Guinness time |
19:35.00 | prpplague | ~guinness koen |
19:35.01 | ibot | ACTION pours a creamy pint of dark bitter guinness stout and hands it to koen |
19:35.08 | koen | :) |
19:35.10 | koen | cheers |
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19:36.28 | ascent | koen: welcome :) When can we hire you again? :) |
19:39.33 | lonewolff | koen: you might know, are there any issues with mouting nfs shares in 0.8.2? |
19:39.39 | lonewolff | mounting even |
19:39.55 | koen | lonewolff: haven't tried that |
19:40.03 | lonewolff | ah ok |
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19:47.41 | joshua_ | hmm.. |
19:47.55 | mreimer_ | joshua_: talking in your sleep? |
19:48.01 | joshua_ | spyro: why did you reimplement fflash? |
19:48.20 | joshua_ | mreimer_, yeah, saw one thing of interest when doing a pre-crash cvs up, and went "?" |
19:48.44 | Arjan | koen: too bad... BT doesn't work out of the box on the h1940 :( |
19:48.51 | Spyro | joshua_: fflash is my implementation. I reimplementd rflash :) |
19:49.16 | joshua_ | Spyro, right, I guess taht's what I meant |
19:49.18 | koen | Arjan: ah, too bad |
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19:49.35 | Spyro | joshua_: partly because it wouldnt work, partly for learning |
19:49.46 | jamey | hi joshua_ |
19:49.50 | joshua_ | hi jamey. |
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19:50.05 | joshua_ | spyro: ah. I saw your gibber.S as well. |
19:50.25 | Spyro | joshua_: heh |
19:50.30 | joshua_ | jamey: I trust ibot gave you my message? |
19:50.38 | mreimer_ | Arjan: if it really has Zeevo TV2001P, then it should work. h2200 has the same chip. You'd just need to find out how to power the chip up and reset it. |
19:51.25 | jamey | joshua_: yes, ibot gave me your message. sounds interesting. |
19:51.35 | Arjan | mreimer_: the chip is the same, and it is connected to one of the UARTs, but I can't connect to it. even when I enabled it from wince before booting linux |
19:52.16 | mreimer_ | booting linux may power the chip down, depending on how the GPIOs are configured by the 1940 code. |
19:52.20 | joshua_ | jamey: I'm looking forward to it. |
19:52.35 | Spyro | whats interesting? :) |
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19:53.08 | jamey | I know matthew reilly and jud leonard from when I worked with the alpha microprocessor advanced development team, pre-skiff |
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19:54.31 | joshua_ | yup |
19:55.09 | jamey | should be fun |
19:55.13 | Spyro | Are you guys gonna share your secret? :) |
19:55.15 | Arjan | mreimer_: it just might... was just hoping it'd work right out of the box :) don't have any kernel programming skills (yet) :( |
19:55.47 | joshua_ | spyro: heh. I may be getting a job this summer at a startup doing parallel stuff. |
19:56.08 | Spyro | jammy bugger. |
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19:56.11 | Spyro | :) |
19:56.14 | mreimer_ | joshua_: cool! |
19:56.32 | jamey | with former alpha cpu architects and circuit designers |
19:56.50 | Spyro | jamey: nice :-) |
19:57.13 | joshua_ | mreimer_, that was my thought :) |
19:57.50 | mreimer_ | joshua_: will it be a paying job, or just one of those internships where you get the privilege to work for them for free? |
19:58.11 | joshua_ | I believe that I will be getting paid. |
19:58.18 | CIA-4 | 03mickeyl * 10opie/noncore/unsupported/tabmanager/ (- New directory): Directory /cvs/opie/noncore/unsupported/tabmanager added to the repository |
19:58.25 | mreimer_ | joshua_: very good! |
19:58.52 | Spyro | joshua_: how come clock_bits_out does clockin followed by clockout, wheras clock_bits_out_rev does them the other way round ? |
19:59.09 | Spyro | joshua_: imaginary money ;-) |
19:59.19 | joshua_ | very likely that I ended up using one at one point in time, and the other one fell into disrepair. |
19:59.35 | Spyro | oddly, both appear to work... |
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19:59.49 | joshua_ | is one of them off by one? |
19:59.57 | Spyro | one gets used to read IDs, and the other gets used in my read_chain() function |
20:00.05 | Spyro | both appear to work |
20:00.11 | Spyro | in their respective code |
20:00.31 | Spyro | I dont know HOW but... |
20:00.32 | Spyro | :) |
20:01.02 | Spyro | joshua_: whay Im *trying* to do is get my SA1100 to actually work :) |
20:01.22 | joshua_ | heheh |
20:03.15 | CIA-4 | 03mickeyl * 10opie/ (31 files in 3 dirs): tabmanager -> unsupported |
20:08.59 | joshua_ | ok, I'm out for some hours. |
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20:32.17 | Spyro | hrm. I seem to be able to select captur_ir mode (it clocks out %00001 which is what the SA1100 manual says...) |
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20:41.08 | Spyro | ROTFLOL |
20:41.14 | Spyro | Figured it out :) |
20:41.23 | Spyro | SA1100 uses different numbers for its commands |
20:41.30 | Spyro | how stupid is that? :) |
20:42.39 | ||cw | just as stupid as HP using number like 276 and 253 to identify trays instead of 1, 2, 3 and using different numbers on different models |
20:42.59 | Spyro | haha |
20:43.30 | ||cw | so to find a certain tray you first have to have the driver setup right, then you have to enumerate all the trays and make another api call to find the trays name from the driver |
20:43.46 | ||cw | and just hope the driver calls the tray what you think it will |
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20:45.28 | Spyro | actually this is a royal pain in the rear |
20:45.42 | Spyro | libjtag uses the idcode instruction to identify the CPU type and now it cant. |
20:45.46 | Spyro | *argh* |
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21:23.40 | Arjan | this is probably a stupid question, but I want to be sure: can GPIOs be used from userspace? |
21:24.04 | zecke | Arjan: that depends |
21:24.24 | zecke | Arjan: devmem can |
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21:24.47 | Arjan | I'm thinking about writing a little (test-)program to enable the GPIO used to enable bluetooth |
21:25.04 | Arjan | what depends it on? |
21:27.48 | zecke | Arjan: use devmem2 |
21:29.17 | Spyro | anyone have a clue what the JTAG guard values are for a SA1100 ? |
21:29.28 | Arjan | zecke: the version from openembedded? I'll try it, thanks |
21:29.30 | Spyro | the manual says to use them but doesnt say what they are |
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21:45.15 | arrase | hi |
21:46.11 | koen | 'night all |
21:46.53 | arrase | i try to compile void11 for ipaq but i have a lot of errors and don't compile? anyone with more lucky than me? |
21:47.18 | arrase | i'm from spain and my english is basic sorry |
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21:49.04 | tigrux | arrase: No hay problema. :-) |
21:49.07 | techsoup | arrase, es mas facil si intentas temprano |
21:49.14 | techsoup | ah, salvado por la campana |
21:49.34 | techsoup | entrale tigrux |
21:49.54 | arrase | ok :) |
21:50.00 | tigrux | arrase: Qué es void11, y dónde estás tratando de compilarlo? |
21:50.43 | arrase | void11: http://www.google.es/url?sa=U&start=2&q=http://www.wlsec.net/void11/&e=9707 y lo intento en el cluster de handhelds |
21:51.42 | tigrux | arrase: Entonces podermos dar por hecho que tu instalación del ambiente de OE está completa. Ciero? |
21:51.46 | tigrux | * cierto? |
21:51.51 | arrase | kiero hacer una aditoria de seguridad a mi red y solo me falta ese soft |
21:52.01 | tigrux | arrase: Pega la salida del error en alguna parte, para ver los errores. |
21:52.23 | joshua_ | spyro: get the bsdl? |
21:52.30 | arrase | ok pero tardare un poco limpie el cluster antes de salir la ultima vez |
21:52.34 | tigrux | arrase: www.pastebin.ca o algo así. |
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21:58.19 | Spyro | joshua_: that involves effort :-) |
21:58.35 | Spyro | joshua_: I can read the sa1100 chip ID now though |
21:58.48 | prpplague | Spyro: via jtag? |
21:58.55 | arrase | tigrux http://rafb.net/paste/results/qQehpn49.html |
21:59.30 | arrase | trato de compilar solo el de consola |
21:59.33 | Spyro | prpplague: yes |
21:59.47 | prpplague | Spyro: lovely |
22:00.34 | arrase | puede que sea por la version de hostapd? |
22:03.42 | tigrux | void11.c:538: structure has no member named `ioctl_sock' <-- todo indica que tienes una biblioteca diferente a la que esa cosa espera. |
22:04.16 | zecke | tigrux: where does void11.c come from? I don't you've a library mismatch |
22:04.55 | tigrux | zecke: arrase is trying to compile a software that fails with that error. |
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22:05.48 | arrase | i think is a library error too but y try with 3 version |
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22:09.14 | arrase | lo estoy intentano con las libreias liberedas antes de la empaketacion del source del programa a ver si cuela |
22:11.30 | arrase | ohhh shit mierda i fix that but now i have another problem |
22:11.44 | arrase | checking whether the C compiler works... configure: error: cannot run C compiled programs. |
22:11.44 | arrase | If you meant to cross compile, use `--host' |
22:12.03 | arrase | what it is that? |
22:13.33 | arrase | it's the first time i compile for ipaq, |
22:14.54 | arrase | un momento |
22:15.22 | arrase | [gtk_config] Error 1??? i don't whant gtk gui |
22:15.34 | arrase | ok i hink i do it |
22:15.39 | arrase | creo ke lo he logrado |
22:16.11 | arrase | los biarios que quiero estan compilados |
22:19.48 | arrase | voy a ver si funciona |
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22:20.42 | arrase | ai alguien esta intersado en esos binarios solo tiene que pedirlos |
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22:22.07 | daft | hi, is there a list with suported devices? |
22:23.33 | arrase | visit www.handhelds.org |
22:24.36 | daft | I must be blind then i cant see it |
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22:25.41 | CIA-4 | 03drw * 10opie/noncore/applets/ (5 files in 5 dirs): Resource -> OResource |
22:26.38 | arrase | try this http://familiar.handhelds.org/releases/v0.8.2/install/download.html |
22:27.06 | arrase | and this other http://www.handhelds.org/geeklog/links.php |
22:27.43 | arrase | :) there the current running machines and the other projects |
22:30.27 | daft | K i guesed that that was a compleat list with devices with a link to the dev sites |
22:31.19 | arrase | i understand, sorry i don't know that list |
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22:34.33 | arrase | i do it!!! the binary runs ok!! two fucking days searching the correct library,arggg i anybody want a copy just tell |
22:34.42 | arrase | void11 for ipaq |
22:35.55 | jamey | later all |
22:40.28 | arrase | see you boys and girls xDD |
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