| 00:24.24 | mreimer | pb_: I'm getting "Dumping data starting at 0x00000000 and ending at 0x00004000... \n ioctl(MEMGETBADBLOCK): Invalid argument". Any ideas? |
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| 00:42.16 | pb_ | mreimer: did you try the mtd debug thing? |
| 00:42.23 | mreimer | yes, just did |
| 00:42.43 | pb_ | but that particular error sounds like your nanddump is out of step with your kernel, or something. |
| 00:42.51 | mreimer | got "MTD open, MTD ioctl, MTD ioctl, MTD close, nand_sync: called" |
| 00:42.56 | mreimer | not very informative |
| 00:43.06 | pb_ | what version of the userspace mtd bits do you have? |
| 00:43.49 | mreimer | the bits from the unstable feed (http://handhelds.org/feeds/unstable/mtd_20041113-r1_arm.ipk) |
| 00:43.53 | mreimer | too new? |
| 00:44.14 | pb_ | no, I think that should be ok. |
| 00:44.23 | pb_ | what happens with dd when you have debugging enabled? |
| 00:44.26 | mreimer | I see MEMGETBADBLOCK in drivers/mtd/mtdchar.c ioctl(). |
| 00:44.37 | mreimer | dd from mtdblock0, or mtd0? |
| 00:44.44 | pb_ | either |
| 00:45.58 | mreimer | there's a clue: "MTD_open\n MTD_read\n nand_read_ecc: from = 0x00000000, len = 512\n nand_read_ecc: Failed ECC read, page 0x00000000\n MTD_close\n nand_sync: called" |
| 00:46.05 | pb_ | ah. |
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| 00:46.16 | pb_ | what ecc algorithm is hamcop_nand asking for? |
| 00:46.17 | mreimer | I have eccmode set to NAND_ECC_SOFT |
| 00:46.23 | pb_ | oh, that's no good. |
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| 00:46.31 | pb_ | NAND_ECC_SOFT is 256/3 or something. |
| 00:46.39 | pb_ | not 512/3, anyway |
| 00:47.02 | mreimer | ah, I see. the old mtd stuff must not have cared about ecc? |
| 00:47.11 | pb_ | yah, that's possible |
| 00:47.26 | pb_ | you need to set it to HW3_512, or NONE. |
| 00:47.55 | mreimer | ok. I was just about to copy some code from s3c2410.c to do that. btw http://www.vpop.net/~mreimer/hamcop_nand.c if you care to see the code |
| 00:47.59 | mreimer | I'll try NONE for now |
| 00:49.24 | pb_ | good idea |
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| 00:54.17 | __Matt_ | howdy |
| 00:54.31 | __Matt_ | Allllrightythere mreimer |
| 00:54.43 | mreimer | hey __Matt_! |
| 00:54.45 | mreimer | welcome back |
| 00:54.50 | __Matt_ | thanks :) how're you doing? |
| 00:55.45 | mreimer | far better than I deserve! |
| 00:56.05 | mreimer | weather's very cheerful here, with the same effect on me and my family |
| 00:56.08 | __Matt_ | :) oh right? |
| 00:56.19 | __Matt_ | ah perfect - and found the $100 in the pocket |
| 00:56.28 | __Matt_ | the beer cold and the hottub full? |
| 00:56.38 | __Matt_ | etc. etc. So I got your mail, thought I'd pop in |
| 00:57.21 | mreimer | pretty exciting huh? hopefully we'll get the niggly little details wrapped up and we'll have a usable pda soon |
| 00:57.59 | pb_ | it'd certainly be very cool to have the h2200 be a usable device. |
| 00:58.16 | __Matt_ | mreimer: absolutely, well done :D |
| 00:58.19 | __Matt_ | pb_: so close.... |
| 00:58.34 | pb_ | yeah |
| 00:58.35 | __Matt_ | mreimer: so I'm looking at what I think is the mediaq init routine in HTC |
| 00:58.48 | mreimer | is it pretty involved? |
| 00:58.55 | __Matt_ | it sends about 100 words of crap its way - not involved really. |
| 00:59.00 | pb_ | which bit of the mediaq are you trying to initialise? |
| 00:59.02 | __Matt_ | As long as we get the words in the right places |
| 00:59.12 | __Matt_ | pb_ I'm assuming framebuffer... right MR? |
| 00:59.25 | __Matt_ | unless I've mistaken yer email |
| 00:59.29 | pb_ | doesn't mq1100fb already know how to start the framebuffer up from cold? |
| 01:00.08 | mreimer | pb_: I don't know. |
| 01:00.16 | pb_ | mreimer: it works on the h5400. |
| 01:00.38 | __Matt_ | whee |
| 01:00.39 | pb_ | I imagine it ought to work on the h2200 as well. |
| 01:00.44 | __Matt_ | Same MQ chip? |
| 01:00.51 | mreimer | mq11xx_loadvals is complaining that it's not able to write DC04 (which I think is offset 0x10). |
| 01:00.58 | mreimer | mq1178 or mq1188 on h2200, I think. |
| 01:01.02 | pb_ | __Matt_: not quite, but I think the graphics cores are basically the same |
| 01:01.10 | __Matt_ | ah good |
| 01:01.14 | mreimer | loadvals tries to write 10 times I think, then complains |
| 01:01.27 | mreimer | so it's possible we don't have memory configured correctly |
| 01:01.31 | pb_ | do you have the MSCs set up right? |
| 01:01.39 | mreimer | yes, identical to wince |
| 01:01.40 | pb_ | and clock enabled to the mediaq, and that kind of thing |
| 01:01.56 | pb_ | ah right |
| 01:02.00 | mreimer | I think so. the clock and power are on pxa gpios which makes it easy |
| 01:02.23 | pb_ | might be worth poking at the mediaq by hand with devmem2 and see if you can get any sense out of it that way. |
| 01:02.29 | mreimer | when joshua_ gets up he can tell what else he's tried |
| 01:02.54 | mreimer | we did a little devmem2 action but I don't recall what that told us |
| 01:03.41 | __Matt_ | mreimer: how big is the register region roughly, do you know? |
| 01:03.48 | mreimer | 8k |
| 01:03.56 | __Matt_ | ah good; cheers |
| 01:04.14 | __Matt_ | .....not 2K registers I hope. ;) |
| 01:04.22 | mreimer | no :-) |
| 01:04.34 | mreimer | I can send you a mq1132 data sheet if you'd like |
| 01:04.53 | __Matt_ | mreimer: is it the one linked from hh.org? |
| 01:05.06 | mreimer | no, this one's a real datasheet with bit definitions etc |
| 01:05.06 | __Matt_ | actually, -32, not sure if I've seen that; the one from the h2200 page is pretty vague |
| 01:05.11 | __Matt_ | oh! lovely |
| 01:06.00 | __Matt_ | yes that'd be handy. I wonder; presumably if I boot LAB via HTC I can experiment w/ MQ without getting any deeper into reflashing just yet |
| 01:06.01 | mreimer | it's 8M. Is that ok? |
| 01:06.08 | mreimer | yes |
| 01:06.09 | __Matt_ | (it'll be in the same state, cold) |
| 01:06.13 | __Matt_ | yeah that's fine, thanks |
| 01:06.29 | __Matt_ | what state is LAB in in CVS? |
| 01:06.34 | __Matt_ | booty? |
| 01:08.25 | mreimer | not yet. joshua_ needs to commit the latest changes. |
| 01:09.33 | mreimer | you should be able to boot a zImage though, right? |
| 01:09.50 | __Matt_ | yeah; I'll try to make something basic & mount NFSroot |
| 01:10.14 | __Matt_ | how resilient is the mq module to load-unload-tweak-load-unload-tweak-.. |
| 01:10.49 | __Matt_ | i.e. do I get one chance each boot before it goes tits-up? ;) |
| 01:11.00 | __Matt_ | n/m, I guess I'll find oot |
| 01:11.18 | mreimer | I don't think I've tried unloading/reloading it |
| 01:14.57 | __Matt_ | So pls excuse my ignorance; the mq driver we know and love is a generic basic version for all the mq-based ipaqs and happens to work on the different chips, or it tunes itself? (It's written for 1132 and that's a common ancestor?) |
| 01:15.28 | mreimer | yes, pretty much. It teams up with h2200_lcd.c |
| 01:15.35 | mreimer | I think it is a common ancestor |
| 01:16.51 | pb_ | well, I'm not sure we have any definitive register information for the 1178/1188 parts. The framebuffer driver was originally written by Keith Packard for the mq1100 part in the h5400. The rest of the mq11xx stuff was written by Andrew Zabolotny for the Axim X5 (mq1132 is the same as mq1100 with some extra bits). |
| 01:17.34 | __Matt_ | Ahh right, ok |
| 01:17.39 | __Matt_ | (what does the X5 have?) |
| 01:17.51 | pb_ | 1132 |
| 01:18.11 | __Matt_ | I see, right; cool, cheers |
| 01:19.24 | __Matt_ | Nifty little chip |
| 01:19.46 | mreimer | especially the newer 68/78/88 models, with transparency and color conversion |
| 01:19.59 | pb_ | unfortunately, nvidia are not so forthcoming with datasheets as mediaq used to be. |
| 01:20.39 | __Matt_ | :( usually what happens with cool HW |
| 01:20.46 | mreimer | yes. Mark Vojkovich asked but they wouldn't release docs |
| 01:21.58 | __Matt_ | Ah right, memory map in the PDF coincides with what this routine's doing |
| 01:23.52 | __Matt_ | ok this is a good start; I'll get perl to dump out what HTC is writing to the regs, and have a looksee if there's anything mqfb is missing |
| 01:24.04 | pb_ | cool |
| 01:24.20 | __Matt_ | dans le matin, car je suis been workin till now :( |
| 01:24.22 | mreimer | thanks __Matt_ |
| 01:25.01 | __Matt_ | non monsieur, thank you, the PDF is rather good! Will chat tomorrow if you're about |
| 01:25.12 | __Matt_ | pb_: btw, do you know treblig by any chance? |
| 01:25.36 | mreimer | pb_: hooking up hardware ECC in hamcop_nand.c didn't seem to help |
| 01:26.16 | mreimer | __Matt_: je pense que vouz n'est pas Francaise vraiment |
| 01:26.24 | pb_ | __Matt_: as in Dave GIlbert? |
| 01:26.33 | pb_ | mreimer: darn. |
| 01:26.34 | __Matt_ | mreimer: Oui, c'est vrai |
| 01:26.41 | __Matt_ | pb_ Yeah Trebbers :) |
| 01:26.43 | mreimer | moi aussi ! |
| 01:26.45 | pb_ | mreimer: what happened with NONE? |
| 01:26.49 | mreimer | same |
| 01:27.11 | pb_ | ah, still "failed ecc read"? |
| 01:28.06 | mreimer | yes, but now that I look closer, it didn't fail until page 0x20 (rather than the first page); e.g. "nand_read_ecc: Failed ECC read, page 0x00000020" |
| 01:28.24 | pb_ | __Matt_: I don't really know him, no. I used to be in touch with him about ten years ago when we were both working on Linux for ARM. |
| 01:28.49 | pb_ | mreimer: odd. it shouldn't be doing any ecc stuff in that case. |
| 01:28.54 | pb_ | I wonder what's going on there. |
| 01:29.01 | __Matt_ | Ah right. :) (wow, long time..) |
| 01:29.43 | __Matt_ | mreimer: did you say DC10? |
| 01:29.49 | mreimer | __Matt_: DC04 |
| 01:29.53 | __Matt_ | gah sorry |
| 01:29.56 | __Matt_ | ESCREEN |
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| 01:31.02 | mreimer | pb_: mtd0 refers to the first partition, right? on h2200 it's 16k = 0x4000. maybe it's just what happens when dd hits EOF? Because the ECC_NONE error is "nand_read_ecc: from = 0x00004000, len = 512\n nand_read_ecc: Failed ECC read, page 0x00000020" |
| 01:31.11 | mreimer | that's past the first partition |
| 01:31.37 | pb_ | oh, right, that's possible |
| 01:31.45 | __Matt_ | ok chaps, night - tty tomorrow maybe. |
| 01:31.54 | mreimer | 'night __Matt_ |
| 01:32.06 | pb_ | it's still weird, though. if you look at the code in nand_base, it should not be possible to reach that printk when ECC_NONE is selected. |
| 01:36.00 | mreimer | hmm, I wonder if NFS is messing me up. I'm rmmod'ing, cp'ing the new hamcop_nand, then modprobing again. Maybe it's caching the old file contents, so I'm not noticing changes? |
| 01:36.14 | pb_ | that's possible, yeah |
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| 01:40.15 | mreimer | pb_: hey, it worked! |
| 01:40.23 | mreimer | just rebooted with NAND_ECC_NONE |
| 01:40.28 | mreimer | must have been nfs |
| 01:40.31 | pb_ | ah, very good |
| 01:41.51 | mreimer | do you know off the top of your head what the minor number would be for the second partition? 'c 90 0' works for mtd0, but 'c 90 1' just gives me the same 16k |
| 01:42.03 | pb_ | try 90 2 |
| 01:42.45 | pb_ | to make the hardware ecc stuff work, I think you need to provide a custom ->correct_data() method in the hamcop driver. |
| 01:42.55 | mreimer | there you go |
| 01:43.23 | mreimer | take a look at the latest http://www.vpop.net/~mreimer/hamcop_nand.c where I've done that |
| 01:44.06 | pb_ | ah, right |
| 01:44.11 | pb_ | yeah, that looks about right |
| 01:44.38 | mreimer | I'll try the hardware ecc again, this time after rebooting |
| 01:44.47 | pb_ | It's conceivable that the first 16k block doesn't actually have any ECC data. The HAMCOP doesn't check or correct ecc when it copies that data into the steppingstone area. |
| 01:46.20 | mreimer | ah. I wonder if there's an ioctl or some such to tell mtd not to do ECC for a given device? |
| 01:47.20 | mreimer | since NAND_ECC_NONE works, I guess it's about time to commit all this stuff so we can deep-six shamcop*. Hopefully I won't break LAB in the process. |
| 01:47.39 | mreimer | I haven't tested the LED stuff, but that's not critical so I'm inclined to leave it for later |
| 01:48.11 | pb_ | ok, sounds good |
| 01:48.53 | pb_ | If you can persuade nanddump to work with ECC_NONE, that should reveal whether there's anything in the OOB region for the first block. |
| 01:49.49 | mreimer | I could check an old dump I have too |
| 01:49.54 | pb_ | good idea |
| 01:51.04 | mreimer | it looks like there's something there. my image is 33M, so I think that means there is OOB data in there. Looking at 0x200-0x20f I see non-zero data. |
| 01:51.44 | mreimer | I managed to read the entirety of all three partitions. sure was slow writing it over NFS over USB, especially with mtd debugging = 3 |
| 01:54.03 | pb_ | heh |
| 01:54.51 | mreimer | pb_: thanks again for *all* your help! |
| 01:54.58 | pb_ | mreimer: you're welcome |
| 01:55.07 | pb_ | night all |
| 01:55.11 | mreimer | g'night |
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| 07:30.29 | p0m | Howdy. |
| 07:35.10 | vIkSiT | heya p0m .. how goes it? |
| 07:36.47 | p0m | Not too bad, tinkering with moinmoin at the moment. |
| 07:38.00 | vIkSiT | p0m, ah cool.. i let my ipaq battery die.. so i've got wait for about 30 min before i can even swtich it on! |
| 07:38.38 | p0m | Got to love that. |
| 07:38.50 | p0m | Mine comes on after a couple of seconds of continuous power. |
| 07:39.18 | vIkSiT | btw, i have a problem with it.. it never starts up opie on its own.. this is AFTER i applied the patch (changed the config settings).. It just gets stuck on Loading.. the stupid tux icon shows up.. but i need to use a term program to log in and start! |
| 07:39.23 | vIkSiT | p0m, heh which model? |
| 07:39.34 | vIkSiT | mine's a 5550 |
| 07:39.49 | p0m | 3970. |
| 07:39.58 | p0m | The battery in mine's got a life of its own. |
| 07:40.06 | vIkSiT | funny |
| 07:40.09 | vIkSiT | hehe |
| 07:40.17 | p0m | Well, according to APM. |
| 07:40.41 | vIkSiT | when i reset mine after a couple of minutes on power.. al i ge tis a fleeting white screen |
| 07:42.35 | p0m | Lovely. |
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| 10:16.14 | vIkSiT|2 | Anyone help me out with a opie-cvs compile error? |
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| 10:23.42 | guillermo | my ipaq with opie doesn't retroilluminate, and I don't know how to change it |
| 10:23.44 | guillermo | any help? |
| 10:24.01 | guillermo | first I thought it was the battery |
| 10:24.06 | guillermo | but it's full |
| 10:24.35 | Leeds | I can't help, but I'd like to say that I love the word retroilluminate :-) |
| 10:27.04 | guillermo | hehe, excuse me, it comes from spanish ( my native language ) |
| 10:27.09 | guillermo | it's backlighting |
| 10:27.16 | guillermo | I remembered now |
| 10:27.17 | Leeds | sure, I knew that |
| 10:27.20 | guillermo | excuse me ;) |
| 10:28.35 | guillermo | hehe |
| 10:28.45 | guillermo | it's a nice language |
| 10:29.01 | guillermo | i'm trying to learn german now and it's crazy |
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| 11:39.23 | blizaard | what's the url of the 0.8.1 familiar? |
| 11:40.36 | koen|afk | 0.8.1 isn't out yet |
| 11:41.10 | koen | the *snapshots* are at familiar.handhelds.org/snapshots |
| 11:41.28 | koen | as the name implies, those are snapshots |
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| 12:01.28 | paulie | Morning all!!! |
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| 12:05.28 | koen | hey paulie |
| 12:05.34 | koen | bbl |
| 12:05.45 | paulie | hey koen |
| 12:06.04 | paulie | Got my serial cable this morning. Just waiting for the CF sleeve :) |
| 12:09.55 | paulie | koen: Just had a thought. If I put the ext2 file system on my Mac can I do the partitions and install of Familiar and Opie or GPE straight onto a CF card? Or do I have to download all of the packages with a serial cable and compile tham on the IPAQ? |
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| 13:39.50 | puks | hi, when I plug the ipaq 3870 usb cable to my pc, dmesg says "usb 1-1: device descriptor read/64, error -71".. What's the problem?? |
| 13:40.09 | puks | I am using debian sid with 2.6.10 pre-compiled debian kernel image |
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| 14:19.55 | skinnygl | hi :-) |
| 14:20.28 | skinnygl | I would like to know what step I wrong... |
| 14:21.29 | skinnygl | After installing the bootldr 2.21.12, I send the file --> bootopie V.0.8.0 by command load boot. |
| 14:22.05 | skinnygl | upon finish, I read erasign .... then addr ..... |
| 14:22.38 | skinnygl | but later, when everything is finish , just see a black screen with my little penguin....that's it! |
| 14:22.52 | skinnygl | Have I lost some steps? |
| 14:23.13 | skinnygl | :-( |
| 14:23.28 | skinnygl | it is a iPaq 3850 |
| 14:27.04 | jsc | read the release notes |
| 14:27.54 | skinnygl | jsc, I think to have read it, maybe I do not understand something :-) |
| 14:28.12 | skinnygl | There is some problem with V 0.8.0 on ipaq 3850 ? |
| 14:28.13 | jsc | you have to modify a file.... sec |
| 14:28.46 | jsc | look under opie doest start on boot |
| 14:28.55 | jsc | doesnt start on boot |
| 14:29.32 | jsc | modify /etc/init.d/opie according to the release notes |
| 14:30.28 | skinnygl | mhh ok, now I will try |
| 14:30.32 | skinnygl | thx for the moment |
| 14:30.38 | jsc | you welcome |
| 14:30.42 | jsc | :) |
| 14:30.55 | jsc | your welcome that is |
| 14:31.07 | skinnygl | :-) |
| 14:41.51 | skinnygl | jsc, sorry now I read the release note. just I do not how to write by console in minicom... I see boot> |
| 14:42.07 | skinnygl | how can make a change |
| 14:42.15 | jsc | you have to use vi |
| 14:42.25 | skinnygl | but if I write vi |
| 14:42.26 | jsc | or ssh |
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| 14:42.39 | *** join/#handhelds.org Ken|JL (~Ken@h237n2fls34o1010.telia.com) |
| 14:42.45 | jsc | do you have another linux box? you can use to ssh in? |
| 14:43.15 | koen | jsc: he's in bootldr, not linux |
| 14:43.20 | jsc | actually you would have to know the ip |
| 14:43.22 | jsc | yeah |
| 14:43.28 | skinnygl | infact :-) |
| 14:43.51 | skinnygl | I am connect by Hyperterminal |
| 14:43.56 | jsc | koen to the rescue |
| 14:43.59 | jsc | :) |
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| 14:45.30 | jsc | i misunderstood skinnygl .... sorry |
| 14:45.44 | skinnygl | jsc, no prob |
| 14:46.14 | skinnygl | bytheway may I do the modify from Hyperterminal |
| 14:46.20 | skinnygl | ? |
| 14:47.12 | jsc | skinnygl: have you installed opie yet? or just the bootloader? |
| 14:47.50 | skinnygl | jsc, I already sent both file by hypertherm |
| 14:48.02 | skinnygl | the bootldr is ok |
| 14:48.19 | jsc | ok..... |
| 14:48.20 | skinnygl | Just the opie does not start |
| 14:48.35 | skinnygl | it write me....booting... but nothin happen |
| 14:48.54 | jsc | yeah you can modifiy with hyperterminal ..... but using vi with hyperterminal is not fun |
| 14:49.02 | skinnygl | :-) |
| 14:49.04 | skinnygl | ahaha |
| 14:49.26 | jsc | ssh in if you can |
| 14:49.49 | skinnygl | jsc |
| 14:49.57 | skinnygl | something happen |
| 14:50.04 | skinnygl | in Hypertherminal |
| 14:50.14 | skinnygl | there is : h3600 login: |
| 14:50.25 | jsc | press enter |
| 14:50.33 | skinnygl | done but |
| 14:50.39 | skinnygl | still h3600 login |
| 14:50.48 | jsc | type root |
| 14:50.55 | skinnygl | ahh right |
| 14:50.57 | skinnygl | :-) |
| 14:50.58 | skinnygl | ok |
| 14:51.16 | skinnygl | my I do a ipkg install nano |
| 14:51.17 | skinnygl | ? |
| 14:51.19 | skinnygl | :-) |
| 14:51.27 | jsc | i wish.... it wont let you |
| 14:51.44 | jsc | something about ncurses and busy box |
| 14:51.54 | skinnygl | no I use vi |
| 14:51.57 | skinnygl | :-) |
| 14:52.07 | jsc | yeah vi is ok once you get used to it |
| 14:52.12 | skinnygl | nope |
| 14:52.20 | skinnygl | just sometime |
| 14:52.21 | jsc | just not fun with hypertimnal |
| 14:53.48 | skinnygl | ops, in /etc/init.d/opie, I already have the # at the start |
| 14:55.15 | jsc | scroll down untill you find the line /sbin/getkey |
| 14:55.26 | jsc | and put a # in front of that |
| 14:55.36 | skinnygl | yes |
| 14:55.52 | skinnygl | ctrl i for insert is it ? |
| 14:56.11 | jsc | i just use insert..... us keyboard though |
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| 14:57.43 | jsc | and i dont use vi much at all |
| 14:59.05 | skinnygl | jsc, ciao I have to go out with my children.... I hope to see later |
| 14:59.10 | skinnygl | thx a lot for the moment |
| 14:59.13 | jsc | heheh |
| 14:59.14 | jsc | bye |
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| 15:14.49 | guillermo | anyone knows how to switch the backlight on in gpe? |
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| 15:33.20 | Groucho | hiho |
| 15:35.56 | vIkSiT | hey Groucho |
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| 15:50.37 | alarch | Hi |
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| 16:06.08 | CIA-8 | commit to module 09opie by 07mickeyl: hello qte2.3.10 patches |
| 16:06.08 | CIA-8 | bye bye old patches |
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| 16:26.16 | guillermo | anyone knows how to switch the backlight on in gpe? I don't know why is off and no way to swithc it on |
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| 17:16.36 | CIA-8 | commit to module 09opie by 07mickeyl: make inline image support optional |
| 17:22.47 | CIA-8 | commit to module 09opie by 07zecke: -QFileDialog is not used in opentext.cpp so remove it from its header file |
| 17:22.47 | CIA-8 | -Help Window eventually uses QFileDialog, better include it then as well... |
| 17:24.23 | CIA-8 | commit to module 09opie by 07zecke: Make use of the platform |
| 17:27.24 | koen | guillermo: via minilite, bl or screen setup |
| 17:33.50 | guillermo | koen: bl tells me it's on, but it's not |
| 17:33.58 | guillermo | could it be a hw problem? |
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| 17:35.50 | koen | could be |
| 17:40.04 | guillermo | a friend gave me a pda with familiar 0.6, but now it's like if it was dead |
| 17:40.20 | koen | try bl 255 |
| 17:40.30 | guillermo | koen: I alread did it |
| 17:40.34 | koen | hmmm |
| 17:40.38 | guillermo | koen: with no luck |
| 17:40.47 | guillermo | but It happned to me before |
| 17:41.00 | guillermo | and after reinstalling familiar it worked again |
| 17:41.11 | koen | vert strange |
| 17:41.23 | guillermo | the problem now is I have already "customized" this familiar |
| 17:41.34 | guillermo | and I don't want to reinstall |
| 17:42.21 | guillermo | koen: I have another 3800 that is like dead, is there any combination of keys or something that I could try? |
| 17:42.51 | guillermo | it has not been used for months, but I put it in the craddle with same results |
| 17:43.53 | koen | don't know |
| 17:44.03 | guillermo | ok |
| 17:44.08 | guillermo | thx anyway |
| 18:07.49 | CIA-8 | commit to module 09opie by 07mickeyl: back out an unintentionally commited change |
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| 18:20.03 | CIA-8 | commit to module 09opie by 07mickeyl: fix logo name |
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| 18:36.05 | tmbg37 | koen, i've told you about the teddybear, right? |
| 18:36.38 | koen | yes |
| 18:36.42 | tmbg37 | http://shlashdot.org/gallery/view_photo.php?full=1&set_albumName=stuff&id=IMG_03941 |
| 18:38.29 | tmbg37 | ^ a pic |
| 18:38.46 | koen | the bear could use some organ and limb donations |
| 18:39.09 | tmbg37 | soon it will have a heart of solid ipaq |
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| 18:43.08 | tmbg37 | koen, know of a cheap CF ethernet card? |
| 18:44.32 | koen | like this: http://www.sdgsystems.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=68&osCsid=227936ea59890221218b33be8528ec0f ? |
| 18:45.10 | tmbg37 | yeah, except cheaper and 10/100 |
| 18:45.33 | tmbg37 | blah, i'll either find one myself and pay $30-$40 or buy a pcmcia sleeve |
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| 19:04.31 | ___Matt | hi |
| 19:04.59 | tmbg37 | hi |
| 19:05.21 | ___Matt | owdy tmbg |
| 19:10.39 | guillermo | can I use jconnector lib in familiar? |
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| 19:25.53 | joshua_ | ~botmail next |
| 19:26.56 | ___Matt | oioi Joshua! |
| 19:34.28 | koen | hey joshua_ && ___Matt |
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| 19:35.38 | ___Matt | hello koen! how are you? |
| 19:35.43 | koen | fine, and you? |
| 19:36.06 | ___Matt | Good thanks. There was a bit of a speedbump in my plans to "tinker with h2200 today" |
| 19:36.23 | ___Matt | i.e. I thought I'd left it in hotel in the USA (but I found it, phew!) |
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| 19:50.34 | RickSeymour | Hello.... eck.. i'm just about to start putting a linux dist on a CF card.. whats the linux cmd for partition? |
| 19:50.49 | koen | fdisk |
| 19:52.46 | RickSeymour | oh right :-) doh! of course.... i just need to work out how to turn on the USB card reader :-) |
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| 20:05.00 | vIkSiT | hey people |
| 20:05.25 | vIkSiT | on the release notes, one method of starting opie is to edit the opie script. i cant understand the other (using linuxargs and things) |
| 20:05.46 | vIkSiT | could anyone advise? |
| 20:06.26 | koen|tv | that~[3~[3~[3~[3~'s messing in bootldr'ws |
| 20:06.35 | koen|tv | hmm |
| 20:07.18 | koen|tv | it's kept vague on purpose |
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| 20:08.49 | Pigi | Ciao all |
| 20:09.21 | koen|tv | hey Pigi |
| 20:09.38 | gints|home | hi Pigi |
| 20:10.30 | Pigi | I would like to try also on my 3870, because the kernel driver sound does not seems to wrok. |
| 20:10.36 | Pigi | s/wrok/work |
| 20:10.52 | Pigi | Did someone has never tried something like this ? |
| 20:15.49 | hedgehair | is the ram partitioned to /var and /mnt/ram ? |
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| 20:17.39 | ralf | hi all |
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| 20:17.46 | ralf | Spyro: and hi you |
| 20:18.02 | Spyro | hi ralf |
| 20:18.05 | ralf | Spyro: news about linexecing from an SD card? |
| 20:18.13 | Spyro | ralf: not had time tot try it |
| 20:18.16 | koen|tv | MiniLeeds: a mac mini? |
| 20:18.23 | ralf | i haven't a CF to boot |
| 20:34.02 | MiniLeeds | koen|tv: indeed |
| 20:34.26 | koen|tv | you bastard! |
| 20:34.39 | koen|tv | ;) |
| 20:37.19 | MiniLeeds | koen|tv: got it in the US after hearing my bad news... I felt a need for hardcore retail therapy :-) |
| 20:37.28 | koen|tv | heh |
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| 20:45.39 | RickSeymour | hello... i'm trying to mount my card reader.... its found one at scsi5 |
| 20:45.45 | RickSeymour | any ideas? |
| 20:45.59 | ___Matt | what do you want to mount? an existing partition? |
| 20:46.11 | RickSeymour | well the CF card in the reader |
| 20:46.16 | RickSeymour | so i can partition and format it |
| 20:46.41 | ___Matt | does it appear in /dev? |
| 20:47.07 | ___Matt | (if you have no other scsi devices, it's probably appeared at /dev/sda - the dmesg will tell you which device it landed as) |
| 20:47.18 | ___Matt | then you can fdisk /dev/sda |
| 20:48.13 | RickSeymour | .. unable to open sda / sda1 |
| 20:48.38 | RickSeymour | how do i assign a dev block to the existing devices in /proc/bus/usb/devices |
| 20:48.49 | RickSeymour | <---- actually sounds like knows what talking about... haha |
| 20:48.57 | ___Matt | does 'dmesg' mention anything about "USB device appeared, attaching to device blah" ? |
| 20:49.21 | RickSeymour | Attached scsi removable disk sdb at scsi5, channel 0, id 0, lun 0 |
| 20:49.22 | RickSeymour | USB Mass Storage device found at 9 |
| 20:49.32 | ___Matt | ah! cool |
| 20:49.33 | ___Matt | sdb |
| 20:49.46 | RickSeymour | oh.. is that a good thing :-) |
| 20:49.48 | ___Matt | fdisk /dev/sdb :) |
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| 20:50.14 | RickSeymour | unable to open /dev/sdb |
| 20:50.16 | RickSeymour | mmmmmmm |
| 20:50.35 | ___Matt | re things in /proc/bus/usb/devices, if you plug something unknown in it'll still appear in ther e- it doesn't mean you have a working driver for it; a driver should notice it and then make a valid block device in /dev somewher |
| 20:50.35 | ___Matt | nice |
| 20:50.57 | ___Matt | does /dev/sdb exist? (what's your system, kernel, etc...?) |
| 20:51.11 | RickSeymour | i'll just take out the SD card in the card reader and pop in the CF card.. the one i really need (the SD card is formated to vfat) |
| 20:51.16 | RickSeymour | fedora .... the new one |
| 20:51.27 | ___Matt | Do you have devices that appear and disappear (devfs-style) in /dev or.. fedora, should do that |
| 20:51.44 | ___Matt | it could be calling the scsi device by some other filename in /dev |
| 20:52.55 | RickSeymour | it did do previously |
| 20:53.08 | RickSeymour | and i mounted a usb memory stick (with vfat) |
| 20:53.23 | RickSeymour | mount -t vfat /dev/sda1 /mnt/usb |
| 20:53.27 | RickSeymour | that worked fine |
| 20:53.41 | RickSeymour | but i've taken that out... and put in my card reader |
| 20:53.46 | RickSeymour | (sda1 isnt there anymore) |
| 20:53.49 | ___Matt | ok |
| 20:54.29 | ___Matt | it /should/ look the same; even if CF has no partitions, the raw device /dev/blah-without-the-partition-number (e.g. /dev/sda) should exist still |
| 20:55.41 | RickSeymour | oh.. it auto mounts /dev/sdb when i put in a usb memory stick |
| 20:57.23 | RickSeymour | and when i take it out and back in it adds and removes sdb1 and also puts in U-Storage into "Computer" so its auto mounting ok |
| 20:58.48 | RickSeymour | hmmmm... when i put in the card reader .. its making a sdc file in dev |
| 20:59.04 | guillermo | where is the newest bootloader? |
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| 21:00.21 | mianos2k | re |
| 21:00.24 | mianos2k | koen? |
| 21:00.53 | mianos2k | 20050217: what has changed? |
| 21:04.37 | RickSeymour | so i have something in proc.. how do i activate that into a dev block? |
| 21:05.31 | ___Matt | RickSeymour: dmesg seems to say that there /is/ a driver |
| 21:05.40 | ___Matt | and if it's making an sdc file.. sounds OK so far |
| 21:05.53 | ___Matt | but you can't open the /dev/sdc device with fdisk? (you are root...?) |
| 21:06.20 | RickSeymour | yes... logged in as root |
| 21:07.03 | ___Matt | does 'dd if=/dev/sdc of=/tmp/foo1234 bs=1k count=1' complain? |
| 21:07.42 | koen|tv | mianos2k: some opie opie updates and a lot of gpe updates |
| 21:09.22 | guillermo | koen|tv: where is the last bootloader? I don't find any link from the documentation... |
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| 21:11.19 | koen|tv | handhelds.org/feeds/bootldr |
| 21:11.27 | koen|tv | or int he install kists |
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| 21:14.18 | RickSeymour | ... no medium found |
| 21:15.46 | RickSeymour | anyways... i'm off to get pissed |
| 21:15.48 | RickSeymour | :-) |
| 21:15.49 | RickSeymour | laters |
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| 21:45.41 | zecke | Does anyone know if the scan codes changed? |
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| 22:39.45 | bluelightning | hi all |
| 22:39.54 | p0m | Hey bluelightning. |
| 22:40.21 | bluelightning | p0m: any luck with lirc? |
| 22:40.31 | p0m | Not thus far. |
| 22:40.44 | p0m | I've noticed that the pxa_ir module works fine. |
| 22:41.02 | p0m | Until I can get a recompiled lirc-modules, there's not much I can do. |
| 22:41.19 | bluelightning | yeah well pxa_ir is needed for IrOBEX for sending to/from mobiles, and we know that works |
| 22:41.23 | bluelightning | hmm ok |
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| 22:41.59 | p0m | Gints said something about there is no correct module or something. |
| 22:43.34 | CIA-8 | commit to module 09opie by 07zecke: Correct the placement of the exportation |
| 22:44.51 | bluelightning | p0m: the trouble is I suspect kernel expertise is needed for these sorts of things, which is something I don't have :( |
| 22:46.24 | p0m | bluelightning: Ditto. From what I can see, all we need to do, is find out which driver it is that can work with lirc. |
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| 23:01.51 | p0m | That reminds me. |
| 23:02.02 | p0m | I sent a file over IR to my PDA, where did it end up? |
| 23:02.05 | p0m | By default. |
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| 23:03.12 | bluelightning | p0m: not sure with gpe... in opie it ends up in the user's Documents folder |
| 23:07.23 | zecke | bluelightning: is beaming of contacts, todos and events working? |
| 23:08.25 | bluelightning | zecke: last I checked yes... I did some testing between WinCE and Opie, some fields did not get transferred but the send/recieve worked |
| 23:08.43 | bluelightning | I will file bug reports at some stage |
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| 23:11.35 | zecke | bluelightning: please do so |
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| 23:21.13 | bluelightning | zecke: done |
| 23:21.49 | bluelightning | I was going to do some GPE<-> Opie beam tests but my h3850 running GPE seemed to freeze whenever it was about to transfer anything |
| 23:22.31 | bluelightning | I have Opie on it now and I was trying to get an ircomm link going the other day and it was locking up then as well, so I suspect it is a kernel issue |
| 23:25.46 | p0m | bluelightning: Openobex stuff works fine on my 3970. |
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| 23:26.16 | p0m | Then again, I downgraded to hh37 to try and use those lirc-modules. |
| 23:28.00 | bluelightning | p0m: as I said, I think it is not a GPE issue, it must be a kernel problem specific to the h38xx |
| 23:28.16 | p0m | Ahh, I thought you meant the kernel in general :) |
| 23:28.41 | bluelightning | annoying though... I was hoping to get a network link up so I could try prboom over the IR link... :) |
| 23:30.19 | p0m | Heh. |
| 23:39.32 | Pigi | nite all |
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