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| 00:07.36 | pb_ | zap: I am here now. |
| 00:07.47 | pb_ | ... but you're not. oh well. |
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| 00:26.21 | Spyro | wheee. it survived 230 simultaneous pings ;-) (max latency 4ms!) |
| 00:26.40 | Spyro | where do I find wvlan_cs ? |
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| 00:29.34 | pb_ | Spyro: drivers/net/wireless/ |
| 00:29.45 | Spyro | :-) |
| 00:29.49 | pb_ | same place that the other wireless drivers hang out. |
| 00:29.52 | Tyg-Upstrs | 'lo all |
| 00:30.01 | pb_ | hi Tyg-Upstrs |
| 00:30.18 | Tyg-Upstrs | Forgot to log out downstairs in the office |
| 00:30.34 | pb_ | Spyro: if you're looking for a prism driver, wvlan_cs would be a bad choice. |
| 00:30.43 | Spyro | oh |
| 00:30.44 | Spyro | ok :) |
| 00:30.50 | Tyg-Upstrs | How's Phil doing? |
| 00:31.01 | pb_ | that's one of the few non-prism drivers that we have. |
| 00:31.13 | pb_ | Tyg-Upstrs: not too bad. |
| 00:31.19 | Tyg-Upstrs | Whatcha looking at doing, Spyro? |
| 00:31.36 | Spyro | # cardctl ident 1 |
| 00:31.36 | Spyro | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:31.36 | Spyro | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:31.36 | Spyro | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:31.39 | Spyro | driving that :) |
| 00:31.54 | Tyg-Upstrs | Ahhh |
| 00:31.57 | Tyg-Upstrs | who makes it? |
| 00:32.05 | Spyro | Intersil? |
| 00:32.11 | pb_ | We generally recommend hostap_cs or orinoco_cs for prism cards. |
| 00:32.22 | Spyro | ok |
| 00:32.22 | pb_ | wvlan_cs is for Orinoco cards. |
| 00:32.35 | Tyg-Upstrs | unless you want monitor mode :) |
| 00:32.45 | Spyro | orinnoco_cs didnt bind to it :( |
| 00:32.56 | Tyg-Upstrs | you have to edit the /etc/pcmcia/config file |
| 00:33.00 | pb_ | Tyg-Upstrs: both orinoco and hostap can do monitor mode on my prism cards. |
| 00:33.03 | Tyg-Upstrs | change the binding driver |
| 00:33.21 | Tyg-Upstrs | yeah,but wvlan won't, was what I was saying |
| 00:33.28 | pb_ | oh, right, I see. |
| 00:33.57 | pb_ | yeah. I don't remember whether we recommend wvlan or orinoco at the moment for those. There doesn't seem to be any clear winner. |
| 00:34.11 | pb_ | I think there are at least some people for whom orinoco doesn't work at all. |
| 00:34.12 | Spyro | my drivers arent compiled as modules... |
| 00:34.23 | Spyro | surely they would bind if they could? |
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| 00:35.17 | pb_ | no, they won't bind on their own. cardmgr needs to do that. |
| 00:35.45 | Spyro | oh ok |
| 00:36.13 | pb_ | well, that's certainly true in 2.4. I'm not sure about 2.6, but I think cardmgr is still required at present for that as well. |
| 00:36.43 | Spyro | you're right =- ide-cs wont buind otherwise |
| 00:37.48 | Tyg-Upstrs | mine's an orinoco gold and I use orinoco_cs. not that that is probably particularly helpful |
| 00:37.55 | Tyg-Upstrs | works great for me. |
| 00:39.32 | CIA | 11landcam_2.23_arm.ipk uploaded to 09unstable by 07jwaterman@lcs.mit.edu |
| 00:47.26 | Spyro | well none work so far... I'll try hostap_cs |
| 00:52.17 | jimtimesinfinity | I'm trying to configure my wireless network card but I can't get the wlan0 to be recognized by ifconfig |
| 00:52.30 | Spyro | join the lub |
| 00:52.33 | Spyro | club |
| 00:52.45 | Tyg-Upstrs | Jim: what PDA? |
| 00:52.51 | jimtimesinfinity | 3950 |
| 00:52.59 | jimtimesinfinity | with a linksys wpc11 card |
| 00:53.19 | Tyg-Upstrs | What driver is it using? |
| 00:53.19 | jimtimesinfinity | I'm using familiar 7.2 and GPE |
| 00:53.27 | jimtimesinfinity | I'm trying them all |
| 00:53.42 | jimtimesinfinity | orinoco_cs fails to load and gives me an error in dmesg |
| 00:53.43 | Tyg-Upstrs | should be hostap_cs if I remember correctly |
| 00:53.48 | Spyro | wvlan_cs has no config option? |
| 00:54.01 | Spyro | how do I build it? I see a wvlan.c in the tree |
| 00:54.04 | Tyg-Upstrs | works with teh WPC12? |
| 00:54.30 | jimtimesinfinity | the prism2_cs linux-wlan-ng package is built for the wrong kernel and I can't seem to find another package that's built for this one |
| 00:54.37 | jimtimesinfinity | I'm trying hostap_cs right now |
| 00:54.52 | jimtimesinfinity | it seems to load fine but nothing appears in ifconfig |
| 00:55.07 | jimtimesinfinity | and wlan0 appears as no wireless extensions |
| 00:55.14 | Tyg-Upstrs | iwconfig wlan0 gives you what? |
| 00:55.33 | jimtimesinfinity | when I use wvlan_cs I get eth0 showing up but no MAC address and garbage for the ssid |
| 00:55.50 | jimtimesinfinity | it says wlan0 no wireless extensions |
| 00:56.06 | jimtimesinfinity | same as lo, and usbf, and sit0 |
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| 01:10.10 | jimtimesinfinity | are there any other cards that work with the prism2_cs? |
| 01:13.05 | glm2k | smc |
| 01:13.58 | jimtimesinfinity | which smc? |
| 01:14.04 | glm2k | just a sec |
| 01:14.08 | jimtimesinfinity | thanks |
| 01:14.46 | glm2k | SMC2642W 11Mbps Wireless CF Card |
| 01:15.16 | glm2k | attach it to a pcmcia adapter and it's good to go either way |
| 01:20.41 | jimtimesinfinity | glm sorry I have a card already. I'm trying to configure it |
| 01:21.17 | glm2k | np. what model is it? |
| 01:21.44 | jimtimesinfinity | it's a linksys wpc11 |
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| 01:25.54 | Tyg_Wrk | Jim: can I PM you with some information I found? |
| 01:26.32 | jimtimesinfinity | sure |
| 01:26.37 | jimtimesinfinity | how? |
| 01:27.10 | TyggerBob | Dunno if that's helpful |
| 01:27.56 | jimtimesinfinity | I've tried those settings. The problem is that the orinoco_cs driver is loading correctly |
| 01:28.46 | TyggerBob | Sorry.. |
| 01:28.50 | jimtimesinfinity | sorry isn't loading correctly |
| 01:28.54 | jimtimesinfinity | thanks tho |
| 01:33.38 | Spyro | *wow* |
| 01:33.49 | Spyro | I got to have some fun with some WinCE users just now :-) |
| 01:34.04 | jacques | heh |
| 01:34.05 | Spyro | dillo on my e740 is *twenty times* as fast as PIE on WinCE |
| 01:34.18 | jacques | LOL |
| 01:34.23 | Spyro | no shit |
| 01:34.36 | Spyro | http://discussion.brighthand.com/showthread.php?s=&postid=623590#post623590 |
| 01:34.44 | Spyro | I thought I'd show them the money :) |
| 01:35.23 | Spyro | dillo renders the 'full fat' ppcpassion.com site FASTER than IE can render the 'PDA' version |
| 01:36.11 | jacques | wow that's amazing |
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| 01:37.22 | juser123 | hello all. |
| 01:38.41 | Debolaz | Hi. |
| 01:39.15 | Spyro | wow... |
| 01:39.44 | juser123 | wow? |
| 01:39.45 | Spyro | I can render yahoo.com via 10m ethernet from my e740 to my desktop box in under 1 second! |
| 01:39.56 | juser123 | :) |
| 01:40.08 | Spyro | juser123: for the real wow: http://discussion.brighthand.com/showthread.php?s=&postid=623590#post623590 |
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| 01:41.41 | juser123 | sweet. |
| 01:41.46 | Spyro | indeed |
| 01:41.53 | Spyro | completely pasted wince/PIE ;-) |
| 01:42.39 | collord__ | what ATI chip does that tosh have? |
| 01:42.48 | Spyro | Imageon 100 in the e7xx |
| 01:42.55 | Spyro | hi collord |
| 01:43.47 | collord__ | hello |
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| 01:44.51 | jacques | Spyro: do you know what's in the e8xx ? |
| 01:45.18 | Spyro | Its a pxa26x (25x with flash) and an IMAGEON (200? perhaps) |
| 01:45.28 | Spyro | the e800 can manage 2Mbit video! |
| 01:45.45 | change | anyone using an h54xx? looking for experiences and tips... would REALLY love to be able to mount sd/mmc |
| 01:45.52 | jacques | yeah it has that sweet 640x480 display too |
| 01:45.58 | Spyro | indeed |
| 01:46.01 | Spyro | I want one |
| 01:46.12 | Spyro | I want its babies and I want linux on it :) |
| 01:46.16 | jacques | :-D |
| 01:48.28 | Debolaz | Btw, is it possible to disable the input keys on an ipaq? (Not the LCD though). So that I can have it in my carrying case without it constantly turning on the backlight because some keys are touching the walls. |
| 01:48.53 | Spyro | rm /dev/input/event0 :-) |
| 01:49.51 | Debolaz | Seriously, I'm trying to minimize battery drainage. |
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| 02:33.30 | TyggerBob | Debolaz: Keylock? |
| 02:36.05 | Ricky- | wtf |
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| 02:37.24 | TyggerBob | Spyro: just tried out Dillo over my XManager server on my XP box.. cool. |
| 02:41.02 | Disconnect | ibot: toolchain |
| 02:41.04 | | somebody said toolchain was at http://www.handhelds.org/pub/linux/arm/toolchain, or see factoid other-toolchains |
| 02:41.11 | Disconnect | ibot: other-toolchain |
| 02:41.12 | | Disconnect: I give up, what is it? |
| 02:41.13 | Disconnect | ibot: other-toolchains |
| 02:41.15 | | other-toolchains are at http://handhelds.org/z/wiki/Toolchains, or http://openzaurus.org/official/toolchain/, or at http://www.csh.rit.edu/~jeffm/pub/cross/arm-linux/ppc/ which can be modified to work with Zaurus cross development, or can be found at http://www.handhelds.org/~joshua/ |
| 02:41.22 | TyggerBob | Spyro: are you able to open www.handhelds.org in dillo? |
| 02:41.39 | TyggerBob | doesn't seem to want to open for me.. that seems a bit ironic... |
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| 04:00.10 | Tyg_Wrk | Poop: |
| 04:00.19 | Tyg_Wrk | Anyone else getting this: |
| 04:00.19 | Tyg_Wrk | Running script /tmp/ipkg-WUmnaR/xserver-kdrive-fbdev-FtfaZT/preinst |
| 04:00.20 | Tyg_Wrk | SIGSEGV |
| 04:01.09 | Tyg_Wrk | during an upgrade? |
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| 05:17.52 | ryan_ | hey joshua_ |
| 05:23.00 | hhgate | <joshua_> hi ryan_ |
| 05:23.06 | hhgate | * joshua_ recovers fs |
| 05:23.34 | ryan_ | hey |
| 05:23.36 | ryan_ | whats new |
| 05:24.01 | hhgate | <joshua_> Hans Reiser ate my homework |
| 05:24.14 | ryan_ | lol |
| 05:24.29 | hhgate | <joshua_> you laugh |
| 05:24.35 | ryan_ | thats the oldest excuse in the book |
| 05:24.45 | hhgate | * joshua_ lp reiserfsck.log |
| 05:25.29 | Disconnect | lol |
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| 05:30.34 | zap | Hi! Someone succeeded to compile the 2.6 kernel after yesterday jamey's changes to lcd_module.c? |
| 05:32.12 | CIA | commit to module 09linux/kernel26 by 07zap: Fixed jamey's unfinished fixes so that it at least compiles. |
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| 05:33.04 | abhishek | is there a 16bit firewire pcmcia card or a cf card? |
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| 05:54.29 | Disconnect | abhishek: um. how about hell NO.. firewire is faster and wider than pcmcia.. |
| 05:54.40 | Disconnect | and cf is just pcmcia with a diff't form factor and 3.3v instead of 3.3 or 5 |
| 06:09.05 | Debolaz | Hrmm, what's the url to the H5400 specs again? Someone gave it to me here before. |
| 06:12.52 | Debolaz | Nevermind. |
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| 06:19.24 | zap | Debolaz: I'm interested too |
| 06:19.53 | Debolaz | http://www.handhelds.org/platforms/hp/ipaq-h5xxx/ |
| 06:20.24 | zap | thanks |
| 06:21.18 | Debolaz | So what project do you want them for? |
| 06:27.26 | zap | Debolaz: I'm rewriting the MediaQ driver and I'm interested in some details about how mq1100 is connected on ipaqs. However, I found no such info |
| 06:27.36 | Debolaz | Ok. |
| 06:27.43 | zap | the PDFs mostly cover the SAMCOP |
| 06:27.49 | Debolaz | I just want to make the bloody thing support suspend/resume. :) |
| 06:27.50 | pigeon | zap: what's this mediaq thing btw? |
| 06:27.59 | Debolaz | I consider that kind of essencial to a PDA. |
| 06:28.22 | zap | a combined LCD controller/graphics engine/USB host/USB device/SPI/I2S/whatever chip |
| 06:28.35 | pigeon | woo... ok... |
| 06:28.38 | zap | this is second big chip on my Dell Axim |
| 06:28.41 | pigeon | sounds tricky. |
| 06:28.46 | abhishek | now if only the USB host was externally accessible |
| 06:28.47 | zap | and the third big chip on h5400 |
| 06:29.05 | pigeon | same chip? |
| 06:29.34 | zap | abhishek: h5400 contains mediaq 1100 which does not contain the USB host. mediaq 1132 which is found on Dell Axims contains it, and I've heard it is accessible |
| 06:29.53 | zap | there are two flavours: 1100 and 1132. First does not have USB host/SPI/I2S |
| 06:30.11 | abhishek | zap: there's a USB host somewhere inside, dont know where |
| 06:30.26 | zap | abhishek: yes, h5400 has a USB host inside the SAMCOP chip |
| 06:30.48 | zap | it would be nice to have TWO unconnected USB hosts instead of one, eh? :) |
| 06:31.42 | zap | I think though the USB host won't work with devices that requires a lot of power (e.g. external HDDs without their own power supply) |
| 06:31.44 | abhishek | i heard theres actally another port you can access from some point, but finding that point is impossible |
| 06:32.18 | abhishek | would work with a digital camera or something along those lines |
| 06:32.32 | abhishek | usb memory stick |
| 06:32.50 | abhishek | keyboard |
| 06:33.33 | zap | can't find which GPIO is MediaQ interrupt connected to on h5400 :( |
| 06:33.34 | abhishek | (tho who is going to keep a keyboard at least 5 times bigger than their pda i dont know) |
| 06:34.08 | zap | abhishek: it would be nice to debug in Linux with a normal keyboard |
| 06:34.19 | zap | abhishek: although this is possible through ssh |
| 06:34.43 | abhishek | yeah |
| 06:34.53 | abhishek | prolly easier with ssh anyway |
| 06:34.58 | abhishek | because of the screen size |
| 06:41.07 | MonMotha | serial port console too |
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| 07:59.44 | ryan_ | can i use my ipaq with familiar (with the right cables) to debug a cisco router via a serial line? |
| 07:59.57 | ryan_ | ie is there a minicom equivellent for familiar? |
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| 10:13.12 | {HyGy} | re |
| 10:21.04 | *** join/#handhelds.org KoRBeN (oejfv@dyn-202-89-174-106.arach.net.au) |
| 10:22.24 | KoRBeN | can anyone offer some help on how to reflash my 3850 back to ppc 2002? i've read the instructions but still not sure |
| 10:23.35 | {HyGy} | when bootloader is awaiable trough serial terminal |
| 10:24.01 | {HyGy} | then you need to write load root |
| 10:24.10 | {HyGy} | then upload the wince.gz |
| 10:24.32 | {HyGy} | after thet I think you need: load boot |
| 10:24.44 | {HyGy} | then upload the saved wincebootloader.gz |
| 10:24.52 | KoRBeN | ok....i dont have a serial connection only usb.... the wince.gz file on the cf card in the expansion slot |
| 10:24.55 | {HyGy} | I never try this |
| 10:25.05 | {HyGy} | but I think that is the correct way |
| 10:25.58 | KoRBeN | ive got the bootloader on the cf card too....but when i try and bring up the serial or usb boot menu from the bootloader nothing happens |
| 10:26.24 | KoRBeN | is there a program under XP that can emulate the usb/serial connection to enable the boot config or should I run it thru linux? |
| 10:29.24 | {HyGy} | dont konw |
| 10:30.32 | ricmm | KoRBeN: how did you installed linux on your ipaq? |
| 10:32.12 | ricmm | with only an usb cable |
| 10:32.34 | KoRBeN | copied the files to the cf card, and made sure that i made several back ups of the original bootloader and wince image |
| 10:32.48 | KoRBeN | used bootblaster to flash the bootloader |
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| 10:33.13 | ricmm | nice |
| 10:33.25 | ricmm | then i still need to buy my serial cable |
| 10:33.37 | ricmm | i only have a 15mb CF card, and no CF jacket for the ipaq |
| 10:34.12 | KoRBeN | where are you? |
| 10:35.07 | KoRBeN | not in western australia by any chance?? :) |
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| 10:50.40 | geri | how can i upgrade my kernel to one of the 2.6 kernel feeds? |
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| 10:56.35 | Debolaz | geri: Isn't it just adding the feed to ipkg.conf and upgrading? |
| 10:56.46 | Debolaz | (I dunno, never tried:) |
| 11:08.21 | ricmm | KoRBeN: heh no, turn the world around and you will find me |
| 11:08.22 | ricmm | :P |
| 11:09.34 | geri | Debolaz: nope. i tried this |
| 11:11.17 | geri | i made a new file "kernel26.conf" containing: src kernel26 http://handhelds.org/download/feeds/2.6/ |
| 11:11.25 | geri | in /etc/ipkg |
| 11:17.24 | geri | hmm. i forgot 'update'. i'm eventually running 2.6! |
| 11:18.37 | geri | oh no. my wireless is broken. |
| 11:21.00 | geri | where are all the usb modules gone? no usb-wifi? |
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| 11:41.34 | geri | CANNOT FIND PACKAGE TASK-BOOTSTRAP_2.4.19-RMK6-PXA1-HH25_IPAQPXA. why not? i want my old kernel back! |
| 11:47.21 | mallum | geri: play with fire, expect to get burnt |
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| 11:49.13 | geri | i still have one chance. is it possible to boot from cf with h5500? |
| 11:49.44 | geri | i broke opie and the kernel. maybe time for a reflash. |
| 11:52.04 | geri | i wanted opie 1.0.3 because i couldn't configure the backlight. i wanted 2.6 because i couldn't use my sd memory card. no i can't use my ipaq... |
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| 12:17.29 | marcus34 | gday all |
| 12:18.15 | marcus34 | have servers up, still configuring (pls excuse my delay) |
| 12:24.36 | marcus34 | going offline for a bit more... just received new card for outer firewall (3c905 beats tulip AFAIK) |
| 12:24.43 | ryan_ | geri, download libopie....... latest and you can have backlight on 1.0.0 |
| 12:24.47 | ryan_ | hey marcus34 |
| 12:24.59 | marcus34 | gday ryan_!!! |
| 12:25.07 | marcus34 | was about to go offline again |
| 12:25.14 | marcus34 | good luck! |
| 12:25.15 | ryan_ | how you doing? |
| 12:25.22 | Leeds | ryan_: watch those shakes, man |
| 12:25.36 | ryan_ | wiiilllll ddddoddddooooo |
| 12:25.45 | marcus34 | good mate, lots of things happening (sat + wifi contract in the pipeline:))))) |
| 12:25.54 | ryan_ | wifi? where to? |
| 12:26.06 | marcus34 | heh: confidentiality agreement :) |
| 12:26.11 | ryan_ | i thought all you tassies still used CB radios |
| 12:26.18 | ryan_ | marcus34, have to /msg me then |
| 12:26.40 | marcus34 | but will eventually cover oz (???) |
| 12:26.40 | marcus34 | lol |
| 12:26.40 | ryan_ | lol |
| 12:27.06 | Leeds | you're not going to cover oz in wifi... you'd need all the APs in the world :-) |
| 12:27.14 | ryan_ | if anyone thinks of a way other than relay to get a signal over a hill, i will have unlimited, 30mbit wireless internet |
| 12:27.40 | ryan_ | Leeds, he is talking about tasmania afaik, you will only need 1, with the antenna unscrewed |
| 12:27.50 | ryan_ | will also give wifi to the navigation channel too |
| 12:27.54 | ryan_ | for ocean liners |
| 12:27.57 | marcus34 | i will do ... but am working on developing my system ... currently have outer firewall working (changing card now) ... have internal router (almost) operational ... dmz and green zone all OK and updated .. not far from success |
| 12:28.39 | marcus34 | lol |
| 12:30.04 | marcus34 | u guys have no idea! .... this is the real deal ... video conferencing is main aim (for client) everything else is cream. Multiple sat up/down-links combined with 802.11b wifi hotspots |
| 12:30.09 | marcus34 | will kick arse |
| 12:30.32 | marcus34 | all linux-based |
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| 12:30.41 | ryan_ | marcus34, tell me more |
| 12:30.46 | marcus34 | (i didnt say a word, ok? :))) lol |
| 12:30.59 | ryan_ | what company |
| 12:31.06 | ryan_ | a word about what??? |
| 12:31.23 | marcus34 | pm later ryan_ will tell u later (see citilan ... is local to you) |
| 12:31.45 | ryan_ | kinda, im south of the city though |
| 12:31.46 | marcus34 | i cant give away details ryan_ |
| 12:32.02 | ryan_ | ibot lart marcus34 for not giving me details |
| 12:32.13 | ryan_ | lol |
| 12:32.32 | marcus34 | do a search for citilan ... will tell you more by pm at later date ... will need your input |
| 12:32.56 | ryan_ | marcus34, is this with internode |
| 12:33.10 | marcus34 | no |
| 12:33.17 | ryan_ | agile? |
| 12:33.27 | marcus34 | no ... i cant tell u |
| 12:33.58 | ryan_ | (if its with internode or agile, say 'i like dogs', else say 'i like cats') |
| 12:34.35 | marcus34 | APN |
| 12:34.44 | marcus34 | ill tell u no more till later |
| 12:36.32 | marcus34 | i cant pm u. ill give u the url later. have to shut down now to exchange nic's from external firewall |
| 12:36.36 | marcus34 | talk to u later |
| 12:36.39 | marcus34 | cya |
| 12:36.41 | ryan_ | cya |
| 12:38.02 | marcus34 | ta |
| 12:42.41 | CIA | commit to module 09opie by 07alwin: just a fix that mail2 can work with dirbased imap-server. |
| 12:42.42 | CIA | Means: the user can set a pathprefix to search for. In this case, |
| 12:42.42 | CIA | mail2 will check for inserting the special mailbox "INBOX". |
| 12:42.43 | CIA | This is just a fix hack for branch_1_0, in head should go a whole new |
| 12:42.59 | seletz | Hello. |
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| 14:09.46 | heloimhere | hi all |
| 14:10.00 | heloimhere | i recently installed linux in my 5400 ipaq |
| 14:10.12 | heloimhere | i have a problem |
| 14:10.49 | heloimhere | I am trying to boot linux, but doesn't work just now. it did work before |
| 14:11.03 | heloimhere | i putting it to charge but wont charge |
| 14:11.36 | heloimhere | it seems that it is dead! |
| 14:12.16 | Debolaz | heloimhere: What about serial console? |
| 14:12.38 | heloimhere | everything worked before, the serial the usb, opie etc |
| 14:12.53 | heloimhere | but i left it on for an hour, battery was full |
| 14:13.00 | heloimhere | and i found it dead... |
| 14:13.08 | heloimhere | i put it to charge, and wont charge |
| 14:13.27 | heloimhere | i am trying to restart, by pressing the reset button on the bottom right of the pda |
| 14:13.33 | heloimhere | and won't reset either... |
| 14:13.52 | heloimhere | i took the battery off for a minute and back on... nothing changed... |
| 14:14.07 | heloimhere | this happened a few times before... |
| 14:14.16 | heloimhere | do you have an idea what that might be? |
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| 14:32.49 | geri | heloimhere: i had the same problem with my h5500. i tried and tried, half a day. after a while it worked again. i think your battery is too low. just let i charge for a few hours (it'll charge although the led's off). and try again. |
| 14:33.15 | geri | you could also try hard reset. |
| 14:34.08 | geri | try this: http://www.pocketthings.com/index.php?ID=1150 |
| 14:34.35 | Leeds | geri: heloimhere... isn't here |
| 14:34.41 | geri | i see |
| 14:34.56 | geri | :) |
| 14:35.11 | geri | his fault... |
| 14:37.00 | Leeds | yup :-) |
| 14:41.20 | geri | does someone know anything about mmc & h5500? should it work? |
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| 14:48.13 | Nico_Bdav | did anyone know how to acces to palm SDcard via the USB cradle ? |
| 14:48.51 | Leeds | Nico_Bdav: this isn't really a Palm place |
| 14:49.29 | Nico_Bdav | Leeds: ok i was not thinking so |
| 14:49.37 | Leeds | unless you're planning to run Linux on your Palm :-) |
| 14:49.45 | Nico_Bdav | Leeds: can you give me a right channel |
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| 14:50.17 | Leeds | no, not really... I've not done any Palm stuff for years - we didn't have stuff like SD sockets back then :-) |
| 14:50.31 | Leeds | morning jamey |
| 14:51.18 | Nico_Bdav | Leeds: i would also put linux on a palm m515 but support is more than experimental and my wife would be sure to can goback to palmos on is palm device :( |
| 14:51.18 | jamey | hi Leeds |
| 14:51.20 | jamey | hi all |
| 14:51.58 | Leeds | Nico_Bdav: I was pretty much joking about Linux on the Palm... |
| 14:52.58 | Nico_Bdav | Leeds: i see some project but they actually search tester for m515 |
| 14:53.23 | Leeds | hmm... I didn't know it had even got that far :-) |
| 14:53.28 | Nico_Bdav | i would try to find a palm user channel |
| 14:54.03 | Leeds | yeah... there used to be some good mailing lists and newsgroups, but I think the Palm world has changed a lot since I was there |
| 14:55.39 | Nico_Bdav | Leeds: actually they dont seems to be support for sd card via the cradle bcause the solution proposed is to buy an sdcard reader :-) |
| 14:56.00 | Leeds | you should be able to do it with a helper app on the Palm (httpd?) |
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| 14:56.49 | Nico_Bdav | yes i see a solution with pppd and a ftp client on the palm and a ftp srever dedicated dor |
| 14:56.58 | Chicken | lo |
| 14:57.19 | Nico_Bdav | but i think its a little complicated for my wife to just put some pictures on his card |
| 14:58.30 | Leeds | true |
| 15:07.09 | geri | jamey: how far is the sd memory support for h5500? |
| 15:09.12 | mallum | geri: closer if you help |
| 15:09.29 | geri | how can i help? |
| 15:10.09 | mallum | geri: Im sure jamey can advise |
| 15:10.38 | sodre | mallum: what about for h3900 ? |
| 15:12.30 | mallum | sodre: dunno |
| 15:13.25 | sodre | mallum: okay ... thanks |
| 15:14.41 | jg_ | mallum: have the minimo folks put together ipkg's? |
| 15:17.26 | mallum | jg_: dunno. I asked but havn't had a reply as yet |
| 15:18.20 | jg_ | mallum: the screenshots sure look nice/promising.... |
| 15:19.40 | mallum | jg_: yeah, I just sent another mail |
| 15:19.50 | mallum | jg_: theyy have xft working now by the looks of it |
| 15:20.00 | jg_ | yup. |
| 15:20.25 | mallum | jg_: Id run a build off myself, but my arm machine is bitten by libc bug atm |
| 15:20.48 | jg_ | mallum: best if we can convince them to do so and maintain it.... |
| 15:21.19 | mallum | jg_: yeah I think so. I think they have a cross compile setup too |
| 15:23.36 | jg_ | mallum: particularly since it looks like they have it integrated into their tinderbox.... |
| 15:26.02 | mallum | jg_: yeah. though you can download tinderbox builds I think :/ |
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| 15:59.32 | clement | hi all |
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| 16:00.04 | clement | ipaq 3970 here, 0.7.2 upgraded, sdptool browse seems broken... |
| 16:00.05 | TheWizzard | hi |
| 16:00.13 | clement | hello |
| 16:00.21 | TheWizzard | i have a problem |
| 16:00.29 | clement | anyone else having problem browsing Bluetooth services? |
| 16:00.33 | TheWizzard | i just installed opie on my 3870 |
| 16:00.49 | TheWizzard | and now i need the bahia network driver, but the link is broken |
| 16:00.59 | clement | (I used to have `sdptool browse` work in this 3970 before upgrading, and it still works on a non-upgraded 3870) |
| 16:01.15 | clement | ibot: bahia |
| 16:01.17 | | [bahia] a driver allowing TCP/IP over USB communication between a Windows host and a Linux handheld based on Intel's StrongARM SA1110. and can be found at http://www.bahia21.com/download.htm |
| 16:01.30 | TheWizzard | link is broken |
| 16:01.31 | clement | oh ok :) |
| 16:01.58 | TheWizzard | can someone send it to me via e-mail? |
| 16:02.08 | TheWizzard | or DCC |
| 16:03.21 | clement | about my sdptool problem, guys, is it better to fill a bug in bugzilla against bluez-sdp? |
| 16:04.38 | clement | TheWizzard: hope you'll find someone on windows... |
| 16:07.44 | TheWizzard | please guys i really need that driver |
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| 16:21.39 | Debolaz | hey fr0zen |
| 16:21.56 | fr0zen | hi :) |
| 16:23.06 | TheWizzard | noone has got bahia network driver? |
| 16:23.18 | TheWizzard | i really eed |
| 16:23.21 | TheWizzard | need it |
| 16:23.43 | Debolaz | I can upload it to you if you've got somewhere I can put it. |
| 16:23.47 | Debolaz | My DCC doesn't work. |
| 16:23.54 | TheWizzard | send it per e-mail |
| 16:23.58 | mallum | TheWizzard: have you tried contacting bahia ? |
| 16:24.12 | Debolaz | Give me your address then. |
| 16:24.24 | TheWizzard | send it to jonas@the-wizzard.de |
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| 16:27.26 | Debolaz | Sent. |
| 16:27.59 | TheWizzard | thanks a lot *kisses your ass* |
| 16:29.19 | geri | jamey: are you busy? |
| 16:37.38 | Spyro | hi zap |
| 16:46.56 | jamey | geri: no progress on sd support for h5xxx |
| 16:47.07 | rob | 1 |
| 16:47.12 | rob | Whoops |
| 16:47.17 | jamey | but the asic spec is there for anyone who wants to work on it, and we have the start of a driver from samsung |
| 16:49.39 | geri | jamey: what needs to be done? just copy paste and change io-addresses? |
| 16:50.58 | jamey | it needs debugging to see why card is not responding as expected |
| 16:51.09 | jamey | addresses might already be correct |
| 16:53.46 | geri | i wrote drivers for i386 and ppc but this is very different. i even didn't manage to install kernel 2.6. |
| 16:56.00 | geri | where should i start? what do i need? jtag? hopefully not? but i hate printk debugging. |
| 16:58.48 | mallum | geri: do you hate it more than not having sd though ? |
| 17:00.57 | geri | i just dislike long debug cycles. compile. run. see log. change one line. compile. see log... |
| 17:16.27 | Debolaz | geri: Is it okey if I ask you some questions in a private query? |
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| 17:19.36 | geri | if you want to... |
| 17:20.06 | geri | depends on the topic. |
| 17:26.39 | Debolaz | Architecture / Speed / Length of register? |
| 17:29.07 | Leeds | ha ha |
| 17:31.39 | geri | Debolaz: http://handhelds.org/~joshua/PDFs/ |
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| 17:36.16 | {HyGy} | re |
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| 18:09.00 | rob | Anyone used pypaq? |
| 18:12.14 | Leeds | not got round to it yet... |
| 18:22.09 | hhgate | * AngelofCarnage (~carnage@netadmin.openthink.org) joined #handhelds.org |
| 18:22.26 | Debolaz | Maximum Carnage... I remember playing that game. |
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| 18:43.35 | hhgate | <joshua_> I see people are finding my "intel PDF mirror" handy |
| 18:44.23 | Debolaz | It is. :) |
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| 18:51.50 | egggman | Hello |
| 18:51.59 | Leeds | walrus! |
| 18:51.59 | fr0zen | hi |
| 18:52.13 | egggman | I have been running familiar for about a year on my Ipaq |
| 18:52.30 | egggman | I went to reboot it the other day and the bootloader did not load. |
| 18:52.59 | egggman | I can see it as an unknown usb device if i plug the USB into an XP device |
| 18:53.13 | egggman | is there any way to flash a bootloader across usb? |
| 18:53.43 | egggman | Right now I have a brick |
| 18:53.54 | egggman | well backlight works but nothing else |
| 18:54.08 | Leeds | you have serial, right? |
| 18:54.13 | egggman | yup |
| 18:54.22 | egggman | Nothing happens on serial |
| 18:54.24 | fr0zen | serial is much easier |
| 18:54.28 | egggman | ok |
| 18:54.29 | Leeds | serial cradle or cable? |
| 18:54.35 | egggman | cradle |
| 18:54.40 | Leeds | ah... |
| 18:55.06 | Leeds | well... I'd ask if there's anything at all on the serial if you reset it *while it's in the cradle* |
| 18:55.07 | egggman | no go? |
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| 18:55.18 | egggman | nothing |
| 18:55.25 | Leeds | you have tried a reset and a battery-disconnect reset, I assume? |
| 18:55.39 | Leeds | which device is it? |
| 18:55.53 | egggman | Battery disconnect on a 3800? |
| 18:56.01 | Leeds | yes |
| 18:56.01 | egggman | Battery disconnect on a 3850 even? |
| 18:56.05 | {HyGy} | perss the center of the joypad and then reset |
| 18:56.11 | {HyGy} | :) |
| 18:56.17 | egggman | yup dont that |
| 18:56.27 | fr0zen | what did you do right before your last reboot? the reboot when it died |
| 18:56.33 | Leeds | tried a reset while holding in (I think) the two outside buttons? |
| 18:56.54 | egggman | nothing |
| 18:57.49 | egggman | Opie locked up so I rebooted |
| 18:57.57 | egggman | Had been running fine forever |
| 18:58.10 | ricmm | woohoo |
| 18:58.11 | Leeds | just to check - what do you think a reset is? |
| 18:58.12 | ricmm | i got the ipaq |
| 18:58.13 | ricmm | heh |
| 18:58.30 | egggman | tried standard reset button |
| 18:58.38 | Leeds | which is the reset button? |
| 18:58.42 | egggman | when that did not work held down joypad and reboot |
| 18:58.58 | egggman | reset button in hole on bottom of unit |
| 18:59.17 | Leeds | oh, okay... just checking - we've had people thinking the power button does a real reset |
| 18:59.24 | egggman | ok |
| 18:59.53 | egggman | any insight? |
| 18:59.57 | egggman | or am I screwed? |
| 18:59.59 | Leeds | anyway... nothing personal, but I'm about to go home, so I can't really help... |
| 19:00.06 | Leeds | I'd suggest asking jamey very nicely :-) |
| 19:00.08 | egggman | ok thnx anyhow |
| 19:00.55 | egggman | jamey: Any chance you have a second to help someont\e in need? |
| 19:02.12 | hhgate | <joshua_> ricmm: spiff |
| 19:03.28 | ricmm | joshua_: now i just need the serial cable :/ |
| 19:03.41 | hhgate | <joshua_> ricmm: heh |
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| 19:04.21 | hhgate | <joshua_> hehe |
| 19:04.39 | ricmm | uff heavy |
| 19:04.42 | ricmm | crap |
| 19:04.46 | ricmm | ppc 2002 shows up |
| 19:04.46 | ricmm | lol! |
| 19:05.15 | hhgate | <joshua_> heh |
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| 19:05.30 | raz | hi buddies |
| 19:06.54 | raz | just installed familiar on my h5450 |
| 19:07.05 | raz | and i'm having ipkg segfaults problem |
| 19:07.21 | raz | i thought somebody here might be able to help me |
| 19:07.23 | ricmm | wow |
| 19:07.26 | ricmm | ipaqs are so nice |
| 19:07.31 | raz | :) |
| 19:07.39 | raz | i agree with that ;) |
| 19:08.02 | hhgate | <joshua_> raz: talk to Jamey |
| 19:08.36 | raz | alright |
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| 19:08.59 | Debolaz | raz: Install ipkg 0.99.106 or 0.99.87 |
| 19:09.32 | raz | same problem on my mate's h3600 |
| 19:09.47 | raz | ok debolaz |
| 19:10.14 | raz | but how do you install another ipkg when ipkg's broken (segfaulting that is) |
| 19:10.57 | ricmm | argh |
| 19:11.01 | ricmm | crap, recompile kernel time |
| 19:11.14 | Debolaz | Just unpack it manually and replace the ipkg manually. |
| 19:12.01 | Debolaz | http://familiar.handhelds.org/feeds/unstable/ipkg_0.99.106_arm.ipk or http://handhelds.org/feeds/unstable/morgue/ipkg_0.99.87_arm.ipk should work. |
| 19:12.19 | Debolaz | I have only tried the latter, but Jamey recommends trying the first one. |
| 19:12.33 | raz | great |
| 19:12.43 | raz | gonna try this right away |
| 19:15.14 | CIA | commit to module 09linux/kernel by 07jamey: updated to net from 2.4.22 and draft24 mipv6 stack |
| 19:16.40 | egggman | jamey: Any chance you have a second to help someont\e in need? |
| 19:16.53 | egggman | jamey: Any chance you have a second to help someone in need? oopse |
| 19:19.35 | jamey | I have a minute now :) |
| 19:20.37 | Debolaz | jamey: What are the adventages with ipkg .106 over .87? |
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| 19:23.15 | rbm_ | hey hello |
| 19:23.15 | TyggerBob | Hiya all |
| 19:23.21 | TyggerBob | HI rbm |
| 19:23.33 | fr0zen | hi :) |
| 19:23.46 | Debolaz | Hey TyggerBob |
| 19:23.57 | jamey | Debolaz: many bugs fixed, few bugs introduced |
| 19:24.31 | Disconnect | any way to maek opie do a partial restore? (eg just contacts, no apps, no settings, etc..) |
| 19:25.13 | ricmm | i must do a learning charge for this battery once i get to boot linux on it |
| 19:25.21 | ricmm | it doesnt works |
| 19:25.24 | ricmm | just dont charges hehe |
| 19:26.05 | hhgate | <joshua_> ricmm: I would think that the battery in there would be pretty dead by now |
| 19:26.17 | hhgate | <joshua_> maybe if you're lucky it'll take an hour charge |
| 19:26.18 | ricmm | i just hope not at all |
| 19:26.26 | ricmm | that would be enough heh |
| 19:26.40 | ricmm | linux has no problems with that right? |
| 19:26.44 | hhgate | <joshua_> I'd suggest doing a full charge, then pretty full discharge (although not a deep discharge) |
| 19:26.45 | hhgate | <joshua_> correct |
| 19:26.50 | raz | excuse my shameful newbie question but how does one unpack an ipkg package |
| 19:26.53 | ricmm | it can be always plugged |
| 19:27.05 | hhgate | <joshua_> raz: it's not a newbie question ;) |
| 19:27.31 | hhgate | <joshua_> raz: ar -x foo.ipk; gunzip < data.tar.gz | tar xzvC / |
| 19:28.22 | hhgate | <joshua_> jamey: I have word from ryan_ that LAB boots on h5400 with my new changes to make sure that we properly detected memory |
| 19:28.32 | jamey | well done!! |
| 19:28.40 | Disconnect | ...nevermind. the backup is 0 bytes, I suspect it failed ;) |
| 19:28.42 | hhgate | <joshua_> :) |
| 19:28.52 | hhgate | <joshua_> once I get my machine booting again I will check in my changes |
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| 19:30.32 | TyggerBob | Joshua: congrats.. great work! |
| 19:30.39 | TyggerBob | so.. what's in the new apmd? |
| 19:30.49 | TyggerBob | improved suspendage? |
| 19:31.02 | hhgate | <joshua_> tyggerbob: thanks :) |
| 19:32.55 | raz | looks good so far |
| 19:33.15 | rbm_ | pfffffffffffff.. to muuch beer today |
| 19:33.34 | ricmm | wtf the internal pc speakers sounds when i plug the ipaq in |
| 19:33.52 | hhgate | <joshua_> ricmm: hah, on your desktop? |
| 19:33.56 | ricmm | yeah |
| 19:33.58 | ricmm | lol |
| 19:34.00 | hhgate | <joshua_> hah |
| 19:34.02 | TyggerBob | belay my last..can't read.. no change in apmd :( |
| 19:34.17 | ricmm | cool, im connected with synce |
| 19:34.20 | ricmm | synce r0x too hard |
| 19:34.26 | ricmm | works from my wince 2.0 to ppc 2002 |
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| 19:34.41 | hhgate | <joshua_> ricmm: spiff |
| 19:34.48 | hhgate | <joshua_> ricmm: that means you can start porting LAB to sa1100 |
| 19:35.12 | ricmm | of course |
| 19:35.17 | ricmm | thats the why of this ipaq |
| 19:35.25 | ricmm | not only to have linux on it |
| 19:35.36 | ricmm | though i have to admit it, first i want to see linux there hah |
| 19:35.39 | hhgate | <joshua_> hehe |
| 19:36.19 | ricmm | well just give me the information |
| 19:36.25 | ricmm | i will get to it once i have a little time |
| 19:36.30 | hhgate | <joshua_> it's in the Kernel26 tree |
| 19:36.39 | raz | does not just look good |
| 19:36.48 | raz | it is good |
| 19:37.01 | raz | no segfault |
| 19:37.04 | raz | great |
| 19:37.16 | raz | many thanx :) |
| 19:39.27 | TyggerBob | Raz: you mean on the upgrade? |
| 19:39.30 | TyggerBob | Yes.. many thanks |
| 19:42.47 | ricmm | we have a problem in here |
| 19:42.52 | hhgate | <joshua_> yeah ricmm? |
| 19:42.53 | ricmm | i am connected, but i cant browse websites |
| 19:42.59 | ricmm | crappy synce |
| 19:43.02 | hhgate | <joshua_> no |
| 19:43.03 | hhgate | <joshua_> crappy user |
| 19:43.12 | hhgate | <joshua_> you need to do DNAT |
| 19:43.12 | ricmm | it would be easier in linux |
| 19:43.38 | ricmm | the thing is, i only needed ip forward and the iptables rule to have internet on my wince2.0 machine |
| 19:43.47 | hhgate | <joshua_> ah, yes |
| 19:43.48 | ricmm | joshua_: i am, the rule is set |
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| 19:43.51 | hhgate | <joshua_> the iptables rule IS dnat |
| 19:44.00 | hhgate | <joshua_> don't know |
| 19:44.08 | julia_ | Hi everyone |
| 19:46.33 | julia_ | does anyone know if familiar will run on an AudioVox Thera? |
| 19:46.42 | julia_ | and still have access to the phone parts |
| 19:47.38 | hhgate | <joshua_> unlikely |
| 19:49.08 | julia_ | was that meant for me? |
| 19:49.29 | hhgate | <joshua_> it's unlikely to run on the thera. |
| 19:49.49 | julia_ | ok, the thera is a sa1110 so I thought it might work |
| 19:50.00 | hhgate | <joshua_> unless the Thera is *exactly* the same as a supported device (ie, down to the same chips), it will not work. |
| 19:55.23 | julia_ | too bad |
| 19:55.33 | julia_ | the thera's 'watcher' app is kinda sad |
| 19:58.29 | hhgate | * joshua_ drum drum |
| 20:03.51 | Debolaz | Is there any prefered version / branch of binutils to use? |
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| 20:20.29 | jamey | Debolaz: latest. 2.14.90.1 iirc |
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| 20:31.19 | BOV | has anyone used busybox init? |
| 20:36.30 | fr0zen | oh how i love ssh :) |
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| 20:58.47 | zap | jamey: how a client to a SoC base device gets access to device resources? Is there a standard way of communicating between the client and base drivers? |
| 20:59.10 | zap | jamey: or I will have to export functions like asic2_base does? |
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| 21:02.12 | pb_ | hi all |
| 21:02.22 | pigeon | hi pb_ |
| 21:02.23 | fr0zen | hi |
| 21:02.30 | pb_ | hi pigeon |
| 21:03.43 | zap | pb_: hi! |
| 21:03.45 | Debolaz | Are there any utilities to make graphical opie interfaces from bash? |
| 21:03.59 | pb_ | hi zap |
| 21:04.19 | Debolaz | Hrmm, opie-sh.. |
| 21:04.51 | zap | pb_: thinking right now how to organize interface between mq11xx_base and aximx5_lcd. Is there a standard way to communicate with the basic SoC driver? |
| 21:05.18 | ricmm | one question |
| 21:05.18 | zap | pb_: e.g. how the LCD driver gets the address of mediaq registers, for example? |
| 21:05.28 | ricmm | can i have the hh.org bootloader installed with bootblaster, with wince? |
| 21:05.39 | pb_ | zap: the scheme I have been using is to pass a set of resource structs inside the soc_device. |
| 21:05.45 | ricmm | i mean, can i access wince while using hh.org bootldr |
| 21:05.57 | pb_ | ricmm: yes, though soft resets may not work properly. |
| 21:06.08 | ricmm | ok |
| 21:06.17 | ricmm | i would like to do something at least, but i dont have the serial cable :P |
| 21:06.28 | ricmm | and this thing is usb heh |
| 21:06.31 | pb_ | heh |
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| 21:07.25 | plop0 | hi |
| 21:07.49 | zap | pb_: you mean this: res = kmalloc (sdev->num_resources * sizeof (struct resource)); sdev->resource = res; |
| 21:07.55 | pb_ | yes |
| 21:08.02 | zap | ah |
| 21:08.11 | zap | I thought that's for soc_device_register |
| 21:08.25 | pb_ | well, it's for that too. |
| 21:08.37 | zap | hmm |
| 21:08.47 | pb_ | all that soc_device_register() actually does is to call request_resource(), which is really a cosmetic thing. |
| 21:09.01 | zap | can I pass somehow a pointer to my special structure? A class-like struct with pointers to functions |
| 21:09.02 | pb_ | nelson: welcome back |
| 21:09.33 | nelson | pb_: it was all a lie. I've actually been back for a whole day, mu-hahahaha! |
| 21:09.43 | nelson | (sometimes I forget) |
| 21:10.01 | zap | pb_: sdev->device->driver_data is mine or is used by someone else? |
| 21:10.41 | pb_ | zap: that's for the driver to use. You could stash your pointer in ->platform_data, I guess. |
| 21:11.39 | zap | hmm... platform_data is meant for reverse direction communication but should work :) |
| 21:12.17 | ricmm | pb_: why is there support for USB console on sa1110 but not usb image transfer? |
| 21:12.36 | pb_ | ricmm: there isn't really support for usb console; that's a joke. |
| 21:12.44 | zap | pb_: and one more thing; will be my driver probed independently of the module load order? I mean they have no direct dependency of each other thus I can load them in any order |
| 21:13.10 | zap | or I should load the _base driver first and clients next? |
| 21:13.18 | pb_ | zap: order doesn't matter. |
| 21:13.22 | zap | nice |
| 21:14.07 | ricmm | pb_: oh ok |
| 21:14.32 | ricmm | is usb on ipaq too hard to get working at booldr level, or are we just waiting for LAB to be working on sa1110 |
| 21:14.43 | ricmm | i think i am going to help on that one |
| 21:14.44 | pb_ | just waiting for lab, really. |
| 21:14.54 | zap | after driver.shutdown the device could be re-initialized somehow (with probe perhaps)? Or after shutdown remove is always called? |
| 21:15.15 | pb_ | I'm not sure. |
| 21:15.38 | zap | I mean if I should free in .shutdown all resources allocated in .probe or in .remove? |
| 21:16.51 | ricmm | people |
| 21:17.15 | pb_ | zap: in .remove, I think. |
| 21:17.40 | zap | pb_: ok, thanks, sorry to bother you - but there's no big choice whom to ask about SoC drivers except you and jamey :) I'll try to be quiet for some time now. |
| 21:21.15 | pb_ | zap: :-) |
| 21:25.55 | ricmm | so we said that the booldr screen can get me to boot wince again with that bootldr |
| 21:26.03 | ricmm | and 0.7.2 release bootldr is stable |
| 21:26.06 | ricmm | remember this is not mine hehe |
| 21:26.08 | kergoth | hey pb_, ricmm |
| 21:26.12 | ricmm | hey kergoth |
| 21:26.17 | kergoth | how goes it? |
| 21:26.18 | ricmm | kergoth: i got an ipaq to play with! |
| 21:26.22 | kergoth | nice |
| 21:26.22 | ricmm | :D heh |
| 21:26.26 | zap | pb_: oops... I hardly miss a per-driver-instance parameter passed to lcd and backlight modules :-( I hate global variables. |
| 21:26.27 | kergoth | i should get one |
| 21:26.30 | kergoth | either that or an axim |
| 21:26.32 | ricmm | 3765, but it is still pretty nice |
| 21:26.39 | ricmm | plan to move on to LAB on it |
| 21:29.04 | ryan_ | pb_, joshua_ almost got lab to boot with a h5450 |
| 21:29.22 | pb_ | zap: pardon? |
| 21:29.24 | pb_ | ryan_: that's cool. |
| 21:29.40 | ryan_ | pb_, how is 2.6 coming along? |
| 21:30.14 | zap | pb_: as far as I understand the "struct lcd_module*" passed to every lcd_module function is just a pointer to the global structure, not a copy on the heap? |
| 21:31.00 | Chicken | gn8 |
| 21:31.29 | zap | pb_: Theoretically the lcd_module and backlight_module can drive more than one device, but I can't think of a place to store that per-instance pointer. |
| 21:31.43 | jamey | zap: it's a pointer to the structure that was registered |
| 21:31.53 | zap | jamey: e.g. in .data segment? |
| 21:31.55 | jamey | zap: if you have drivers that can support multiple devices, then heap allocate them |
| 21:32.23 | jamey | kmalloc, that is |
| 21:33.13 | zap | but 99% of the structure is identical in all instances |
| 21:33.21 | zap | I need just a per-instance pointer |
| 21:33.31 | zap | oh ok |
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| 21:34.16 | jamey | zap: it may be that the structure needs to be refactored |
| 21:35.03 | zap | jamey: this already involves a lot of work |
| 21:35.24 | zap | jamey: ok, the way you propose should work for me now. |
| 21:36.18 | zap | the only thing I miss is a "void *module_data" inside backlight and lcd modules. Can I add them? |
| 21:36.34 | jamey | yes |
| 21:37.01 | jamey | wait, maybe not |
| 21:37.08 | zap | thats why I asked :) |
| 21:37.40 | jamey | here is the question: if you can always contain the lcd_module inside the device's structure, then you don't need a pointer, you need to use container_of() |
| 21:38.01 | jamey | to_lcd_module does this to convert class_device to struct lcd_module |
| 21:38.11 | jamey | if that won't work for you, then we need to add a pointer |
| 21:38.17 | jamey | I don't have strong feelings against it |
| 21:38.23 | zap | ok got it |
| 21:38.36 | zap | your idea should work |
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| 21:40.44 | ricmm | when i save saved_wince.gz, is that image 32mb long? |
| 21:40.51 | ricmm | if i have a device with 32mb of flash |
| 21:40.53 | kergoth | jamey: I'm thinking about moving away from SF for the OZ and OE websites. Think I could get an 'oe' project on hh.o? |
| 21:41.06 | jamey | kergoth: no problem |
| 21:41.25 | pb_ | ricmm: 32MB less 256k for the bootldr. |
| 21:41.46 | pb_ | and, on h3800 and later, less an additional 256k for assets. |
| 21:41.46 | ricmm | well, ~32mb heh |
| 21:41.57 | ricmm | h3700 has no assets? |
| 21:42.15 | pb_ | they're stored inside the Atmel uC on h3100/3600/3700. |
| 21:42.24 | ricmm | oh ok |
| 21:42.50 | zap | jamey: btw can I can start my project on hh.org? |
| 21:43.09 | zap | jamey: or it is of no interest? |
| 21:43.29 | randys | trying to install package files. When a .ipk file is selected from the file manager and "open in packages" is selected, "packages" sigsegv's |
| 21:43.40 | jamey | kergoth: oe project is being created on hh.org |
| 21:43.53 | jamey | zap: what is your project and what is it called? |
| 21:44.02 | kergoth | jamey: thanks |
| 21:44.10 | randys | is there another way to install .ipk files file local storage? i.e. by setting up "packages |
| 21:45.01 | randys | oops.. is there another way to install .ipk files file local storage? i.e. by setting up "packages" to read the files locally? If so, what directory should the .ipk files reside in? |
| 21:46.10 | hhgate | <joshua_> hmm |
| 21:46.18 | hhgate | <joshua_> kergoth: hmm you should move away from freenode too ;) |
| 21:46.44 | kergoth | joshua_: not a bad idea. someone tried to get #opie to move, but nobody else but him wanted to |
| 21:46.52 | kergoth | so he's sitting alone in #opie on oftc |
| 21:46.52 | kergoth | hehe |
| 21:47.10 | pb_ | heh |
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| 21:47.37 | pb_ | hi tmm1 |
| 21:47.49 | hhgate | <joshua_> yeah |
| 21:47.55 | hhgate | <joshua_> kergoth: I think that was dilb |
| 21:47.59 | jamey | joshua and hhgate are quite cosy together on openthink #handhelds.org :) |
| 21:47.59 | kergoth | yeah, it was |
| 21:48.11 | kergoth | hehe |
| 21:48.40 | hhgate | <joshua_> heh |
| 21:48.49 | jamey | but with hhgate we could switch over without losing people who come here first |
| 21:49.04 | hhgate | <joshua_> right, that was my thought... |
| 21:49.23 | kergoth | still, i find hhgate annoying, and having to get a script to make it less annoying even more so |
| 21:49.23 | hhgate | <joshua_> I have a test hhgate that uses services on openthink to create 'fake' freenode users for those with clients that don't support my script |
| 21:49.26 | kergoth | :P |
| 21:52.29 | ricmm | one question, how am i going to check the md5 hash of these backups gzs |
| 21:52.37 | ricmm | with what will i compare them? heh |
| 21:53.36 | ricmm | sorry i confused concepts |
| 21:53.37 | ricmm | heh |
| 21:54.43 | hhgate | <joshua_> alright I've done a cursory examination of my backups, now it's time to reiserfsck |
| 21:54.52 | hhgate | <joshua_> be back in 15 minutes with luck |
| 21:55.08 | hhgate | * joshua_ mount -o ro,remount / |
| 21:56.35 | pb_ | reiser strikes again, huh? |
| 21:56.39 | ricmm | wow so nice |
| 21:56.39 | ricmm | heh |
| 21:56.53 | ricmm | woohoo |
| 21:57.32 | ricmm | now i am traumatized, just flashed the bootldr and i cant install linux |
| 21:58.47 | ricmm | hey |
| 21:59.02 | ricmm | why it doesnt comes back after i press the joypad down the second time i reset the ipaq? |
| 21:59.29 | ricmm | it goes directly into ppc |
| 21:59.33 | ricmm | not the bootldr screen |
| 22:03.03 | jamey | hold the joypad down longer than you hold down reset |
| 22:03.13 | ricmm | yeah yeah, i was pressing it too soft |
| 22:03.21 | ricmm | you know, it has been used a lot hehe |
| 22:03.47 | hhgate | * joshua_ cringes and types "Yes" into reiserfsck |
| 22:08.50 | CIA | commit to module 09haret by 07zap: This is the Handheld Reverse Engineering Tool, a program used to research |
| 22:08.50 | CIA | the internal hardware structure of a Windows CE handheld in order to get |
| 22:08.51 | CIA | Linux up and running on it. It also contains a linux loader (loads the |
| 22:08.51 | CIA | kernel and initrd into memory then kicks out wince and runs the kernel). |
| 22:09.47 | CIA | commit to module 09haret by 07zap: The HaRET icons. |
| 22:10.38 | hhgate | <joshua_> zap: spiff |
| 22:10.58 | hhgate | <joshua_> does haret run in winceland? |
| 22:11.09 | hhgate | <joshua_> or does it immediately go into haretland? |
| 22:11.27 | ricmm | hmm they dont have the serial cable as they said yesterday |
| 22:11.29 | ricmm | crap |
| 22:11.40 | ricmm | they only have is a usb to serial converter |
| 22:13.54 | zap | hhgate: its a wince app |
| 22:14.09 | hhgate | <joshua_> ah, ok |
| 22:20.11 | ricmm | so, will this usb to serial converter work? |
| 22:20.15 | pb_ | no |
| 22:20.24 | ricmm | i guessed so |
| 22:20.28 | ricmm | now i have to wait a week hehe |
| 22:21.25 | zap | jamey: alas the approach with kmalloc() doesnt work. You can't register several lcd_module's with the same .name field (or rather you can but the second will never be used) |
| 22:23.11 | *** part/#handhelds.org rbm_ (~rbm@d80058.upc-d.chello.nl) |
| 22:23.37 | pb_ | zap: the name field is how lcd_modules are distinguished, so that's to be expected. You will have to set the name uniquely for each module. |
| 22:24.11 | *** part/#handhelds.org plop0 (gui@ABordeaux-103-1-14-168.w81-48.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 22:24.16 | pb_ | I was thinking we should make the video drivers use their instance name rather than their class name (ie "pxafb0" rather than "pxafb") when they look up lcd modules. |
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| 22:24.32 | zap | oy |
| 22:25.07 | jamey | zap: each one needs a unique name |
| 22:25.30 | jamey | pb_: right -- instance name makes more sense |
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| 22:30.44 | zap | good night everyone. feeling tired today |
| 22:31.50 | CIA | commit to module 09opie by 07mickeyl: remove X11 stuff for now - will come back later |
| 22:41.11 | CIA | commit to module 09opie by 07mickeyl: remove OToolbar - QPEToolBar is deprecated anyway |
| 22:43.55 | CIA | commit to module 09opie by 07mickeyl: remove X11 abstraction classes - they will come back later but using |
| 22:43.55 | CIA | the same strategy as zecke did when porting Opie to Qt/X11 |
| 22:59.04 | hhgate | * joshua_ woots |
| 22:59.12 | hhgate | * joshua_ got his machine to boot |
| 23:01.07 | pb_ | hhgate: congratulations |
| 23:02.59 | hhgate | <joshua_> heh |
| 23:05.05 | hhgate | * nelson (~nelson@nexus-81092E2.crynwr.com) joined #handhelds.org |
| 23:05.32 | jamey | oh, nelson has defected to the other side |
| 23:05.36 | *** topic/#handhelds.org by mallum -> Open Source Operating Systems for Handhelds. (i.e., we're not a ppc warez channel) || LAB boots to an LCD, boot> prompt, and can reflash itself on h1910! || OPIE: #opie. GPE: #gpe. Familiar and everything else: here. || v0.7.2 is out. http://familiar.handhelds.org/no |
| 23:05.45 | mallum | uh ? |
| 23:05.45 | nelson | Hehe, no I just want to see what it looks like from there. |
| 23:05.52 | mallum | nelson: please dont goooooooooooo |
| 23:06.03 | nelson | :-) |
| 23:06.16 | jamey | oftc? |
| 23:06.25 | *** topic/#handhelds.org by mallum -> Open Source Operating Systems for Handhelds. (i.e., we're not a ppc warez channel) || LAB boots to an LCD, boot> prompt, and can reflash itself on h1910! || OPIE: #opie. GPE: #gpe. Familiar and everything else: here. || v0.7.2 is out. http://familiar.handhelds.org/ |
| 23:06.27 | hhgate | <nelson> open/free technology center |
| 23:06.40 | mallum | I dont know what happened there, I think a pug may have changed the topic |
| 23:06.49 | kergoth | jamey: the server #kernelnewbies, #blob, etc moved to a while ago |
| 23:06.52 | kergoth | s/server/network/ |
| 23:07.05 | jamey | ah |
| 23:07.22 | nelson | mallum: pugs. Ya just can't trust 'em. |
| 23:07.30 | pb_ | ah, he's back. |
| 23:07.41 | mallum | nelson: they are very mischivious |
| 23:08.07 | nelson | Can't be any worse than our husky. |
| 23:09.24 | mallum | nelson: heres the culprit http://www.handhelds.org/~mallum/mallumclint.jpg |
| 23:09.53 | Leeds | my God that's ugly! |
| 23:10.02 | Leeds | cute dog though... |
| 23:10.14 | hhgate | <joshua_> heh |
| 23:10.17 | mallum | Leeds: hehe |
| 23:10.20 | nelson | Awfully furry! |
| 23:10.37 | mallum | I got alot more furry. shaved a bit now though |
| 23:10.47 | nelson | You're not ... you're not ... *kissing* that dog, are you??? |
| 23:10.57 | mallum | probably |
| 23:11.02 | nelson | (kissing dogs is fine; letting them kiss back is NOT!) |
| 23:11.16 | mallum | they are licking my feet atm |
| 23:11.22 | nelson | awwwwwww...... |
| 23:11.27 | Leeds | poor dogs |
| 23:11.31 | nelson | faithful dog on master's feet. |
| 23:11.57 | mallum | I told them off for attacking laptop, thus foot lick |
| 23:12.32 | nelson | I could just see one of my dogs carrying off my iPAQ ... NOT! Bad dog, bad dog! |
| 23:14.18 | mallum | I like it when they watch tv |
| 23:15.10 | hhgate | <joshua_> heh |
| 23:15.19 | hhgate | <joshua_> my hamster used to sit there and watch tv. |
| 23:16.15 | mallum | joshua_: arnie the other pug, watched most of 'The Hulk'. Its seems to be dark things with lots of flashes of color in it he like |
| 23:16.46 | hhgate | <joshua_> heh |
| 23:16.54 | hhgate | <joshua_> brb feeding cat |
| 23:19.46 | hhgate | <joshua_> back |
| 23:22.09 | *** join/#handhelds.org mithro (~tim@dsl1-83.gw1.adl1.airnet.com.au) |
| 23:24.21 | jamey | later all |
| 23:24.27 | hhgate | <joshua_> night jamey |
| 23:24.35 | hhgate | * AngelofCarnage (~carnage@netadmin.openthink.org) joined #handhelds.org |
| 23:29.18 | ricmm | quien tiene una ipaq |
| 23:29.35 | ricmm | err |
| 23:29.47 | ricmm | the amsg scaped to the other networks |
| 23:29.47 | ricmm | heh |
| 23:29.58 | hhgate | <joshua_> ricmm |
| 23:30.03 | hhgate | <joshua_> yo tengo una ipaq |
| 23:30.46 | ricmm | yo s? |
| 23:30.57 | ricmm | ahora, tu estas muy lejos de mi como para prestarme un cable serial |
| 23:31.32 | hhgate | <joshua_> jeje |
| 23:31.44 | pigeon | morning ricmm joshua_ |
| 23:31.49 | hhgate | <joshua_> morning pigeon |
| 23:31.52 | ricmm | morning pigeon |
| 23:33.06 | hhgate | * joshua_ bats it in ricmm's direction |
| 23:34.20 | ricmm | poor cat :/ |
| 23:35.01 | hhgate | <joshua_> heh |
| 23:38.12 | ricmm | i think i am going to open this cradle and solder the cables |
| 23:38.25 | ricmm | joshua_: is there any tutorial on the web |
| 23:38.29 | ricmm | or should i call joshua hehe |
| 23:38.55 | *** join/#handhelds.org AndiM (~andi@rhlx01.fht-esslingen.de) |
| 23:39.08 | AndiM | hi! |
| 23:42.27 | ricmm | hey |
| 23:42.40 | ricmm | iirc the 3900 cradle is not compatible with an 3700 right? |
| 23:45.26 | pigeon | ricmm: I think that's correct, yes. |
| 23:45.43 | pigeon | 36/37 differs from 38 and so on. |
| 23:53.31 | ricmm | joshua_: how do i make the serial cable |
| 23:53.34 | hhgate | <joshua_> ricmm: I believe there is a tutorial |
| 23:53.44 | ricmm | ive been looking for it |
| 23:54.18 | ricmm | found |
| 23:54.19 | ricmm | :) |
| 23:54.23 | hhgate | <joshua_> hehe |
| 23:55.16 | ricmm | it is a little messy |
| 23:55.23 | ricmm | ill open the cradle this night to see the sizes |
| 23:55.40 | AndiM | Does anyone have any hints for porting to Dell Axim? |
| 23:56.23 | AndiM | I know that demo is working on it, but he doesn't freakin' answer... |
| 23:56.52 | AndiM | And I'd like to know further details, since porting work is not exactly too easy... |
| 23:57.20 | hhgate | <joshua_> ricmm: alright |
