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| 02:38.18 | brad | !bzstats findteam For |
| 02:38.19 | NessyBot | No online player found for team: Elite Forze |
| 02:38.26 | brad | !bzstats findteam Fore |
| 02:38.55 | brad | !bzstats findteam [ForestForce] |
| 02:38.56 | NessyBot | [ForestForce]: Rydon2k2 (brad.bzflag.org:5157) |
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| 09:25.35 | *** topic/#guleague by quantumdot -> GU League discussion channel - Welcome - http://gu.bzleague.com || http://www.gamesunited.de/ib/index.php?showtopic=12832 || Brand new American server: http://www.gamesunited.de/ib/index.php?showtopic=12828 by Quol |
| 09:27.08 | SportChick | hi quantumdot |
| 09:52.47 | quantumdot | hi SportChick |
| 09:52.56 | quantumdot | cant you see me as "working" ? |
| 09:53.33 | quantumdot | i have set it up as "away working", or so I thought |
| 09:54.27 | quantumdot | btw, SportChick, I am not complaining, I am just curious to know if the idle stauts shows up correctly |
| 10:35.00 | SportChick | quantumdot: I didn't get a messagw |
| 10:35.49 | SportChick | howevwr if I /whois you, it says you are working |
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| 11:05.47 | quantumdot | thx SportChick |
| 11:06.02 | SportChick | np quantumdot |
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| 12:44.30 | Upsetter | heya, a question about duc-league. (not off-topic ;) ) the league-site shows if the matches were played 15,20 or 30 minutes. are these things correct? what if someone forgot to report the match-length. is it counted as a 15 min-match then? |
| 13:10.34 | Birdie | its by default on 30min |
| 13:10.53 | Birdie | you have a scoll down menue to change it to 15 opr 20 |
| 13:10.55 | Birdie | or* |
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| 13:40.52 | Upsetter | ok, i asked because it would be interesting to know how many 30-min-matches have been played in the last 6 months and how much it has changed untill today. if the reported matchtime is correct then you can see a total downfall of 30min-matches in the duc-league |
| 13:41.02 | Upsetter | nvm :) |
| 13:42.55 | Birdie | hardly anyone does 30min matches anymore |
| 13:43.27 | Birdie | i always was in favor of shorter matches in ducati (15-20min) but not on gu, cause many teams can catch up |
| 13:43.45 | Upsetter | yeah, i counted them ;) horrible downfall |
| 13:43.51 | Birdie | its not always the team that _should_ have won on gu, if its a 15min match, on ducati its mostly like that |
| 13:43.59 | Upsetter | i was frightened about this for GU |
| 13:44.27 | Admirarch | Who cares if teams catch up? |
| 13:44.37 | Admirarch | By that logic matches should go on for ever |
| 13:44.40 | Birdie | ducati is..ducati, always the same. On gu you can jump, pass, and catch up on a few time, even when loosing with 3 or 4 captures |
| 13:44.54 | Birdie | 30min is a basic |
| 13:44.59 | Birdie | (time) |
| 13:45.08 | Admirarch | It's completely arbitrary |
| 13:45.29 | Birdie | what do you mean? |
| 13:45.52 | Admirarch | There's no reason for 30 minutes to be considered any more basic than 15, 20, or 49.65 |
| 13:46.21 | Admirarch | Anyway, I have to go out |
| 13:47.11 | Birdie | _I_ think that 30min is a good average time, where you will have the winner at the end of the match, which was strongest team and _should_ have won |
| 13:47.26 | Birdie | 15min is to short on gu according to me |
| 13:47.41 | Birdie | there can be to many lucky winners |
| 13:47.53 | Upsetter | yes, i agree |
| 13:48.02 | Admirarch | Good, it keeps strong teams on their toes to have to concentrate each match |
| 13:48.03 | Upsetter | 30 min is a good time |
| 13:48.34 | Admirarch | And leaving, really leaving |
| 13:48.38 | Birdie | =) |
| 13:48.41 | Upsetter | hehe |
| 13:49.13 | Birdie | also i think that deciding the match time (if you can choose it) would give fights:) |
| 13:49.27 | Birdie | strong teams want 30, weaker want 15 |
| 13:49.33 | Birdie | and i'm sure some are not mature enough to handle such situation |
| 13:50.38 | Birdie | and the opinion that it will raise activity is not true, there will just be as much people on, as much time, you will just have more matches cause the time is devided by two for a match |
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| 17:27.26 | NessyBot | ::gu:: Jan 31 17:23 => T42:4, [TfC] The flying Cows:3 @ /index.php?link=fights |
| 17:32.51 | NessyBot | ::gu:: Jan 31 17:30 => [Deep Underground]:5, [phagozytose]:4 @ /index.php?link=fights |
| 17:41.17 | SportChick | ups: folks accepting match reports are not supposed to report without the info on the match length. if someonne reports it to me without, I bzmail for more details before reporting it |
| 18:13.35 | NessyBot | ::gu:: Jan 31 18:12 => [phagozytose]:3, [Deep Underground]:2 @ /index.php?link=fights |
| 18:59.59 | Birdie | ts: ping |
| 19:00.07 | Birdie | i need your technical opinion |
| 19:00.25 | ts | Birdie: yes? |
| 19:00.59 | Birdie | so on bzflag |
| 19:01.01 | Birdie | i did lagstats |
| 19:01.05 | Birdie | one guy had 1000 |
| 19:01.13 | Birdie | i do it again 2 seconds after it, he has 68 |
| 19:01.20 | Birdie | how would you explain that? |
| 19:01.43 | ts | Numerous reasons |
| 19:01.51 | ts | Which one do you want to hear? ;( |
| 19:01.59 | Birdie | the one that is propably the right one:) |
| 19:03.01 | ts | It shows he had a temporary problem or did something causing is game client to freeze shortly |
| 19:03.11 | ts | s/is/his |
| 19:03.17 | Birdie | temporary problem can be what? |
| 19:03.35 | ts | That's the lot of reasons :) |
| 19:03.59 | Birdie | he was playing during the moment |
| 19:04.11 | Birdie | its cant be just a spike, or it wouldnt have went down so fast |
| 19:04.27 | ts | then it sounds like he did a screenie or changed windowing mode of the client |
| 19:04.38 | ts | of course it's all speculation |
| 19:04.44 | Birdie | screanie i would notice |
| 19:04.58 | Birdie | (i have that client that shows the paused and unpaused with F5 |
| 19:05.17 | ts | Nope |
| 19:05.17 | Birdie | if you press it once, my client records it |
| 19:05.24 | ts | If he runs 2.0.0-2.0.0 then you don't see it |
| 19:05.32 | ts | err |
| 19:05.39 | ts | I mean 2.0.0 - 2.0.4 |
| 19:06.17 | ts | after 2.0.4 (meaning 2.0.5 and later) the client is modified to broadcast it |
| 19:06.31 | Birdie | i'll do a clientquery when i see him |
| 19:06.38 | ts | so you can only receive things that have been broadcasted |
| 19:09.31 | Birdie | it can mean something nasty to? |
| 19:09.37 | Birdie | (if its after 2.0.4) |
| 19:10.02 | ts | It's basically nothing |
| 19:10.34 | ts | Can happen all the time, just like it does to me while playing and EyeTV starts recording a TV show |
| 19:10.47 | ts | I get 1 short lag spike, then it's gone |
| 19:10.51 | Birdie | yea but doesnt it have to go down faster? |
| 19:10.58 | Birdie | i mean, two seconds |
| 19:11.31 | ts | The lagstats code is buggy, I think, but Chestal is arguing against ;) |
| 19:12.23 | ts | It should be smoothed but well, obviously it doesn't happen always |
| 19:12.28 | ts | Is like sorting lagstats, it doesn't work when one has loss or ooo |
| 19:12.59 | ts | Maybe the other devs know better |
| 19:15.08 | Birdie | its 2.0.8 he plays with |
| 19:26.48 | ts | Birdie: How often does it happen? |
| 19:27.41 | Birdie | i only saw it once |
| 19:28.27 | ts | then you should just ignore it ;) |
| 19:29.33 | Birdie | i only checked it once either:) |
| 20:09.24 | NessyBot | ::gu:: Jan 31 16:32 => [Links]:5, [TfC] The flying Cows:4 @ /index.php?link=fights |
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| 22:22.56 | NessyBot | ::gu:: Jan 31 22:13 => Enough Is Enough!:4, T42:2 @ /index.php?link=fights |