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| 18:52.01 | SportChick | any admin, ping |
| 18:52.08 | menotume | any pong |
| 18:52.21 | SportChick | Correct me if I'm wrong |
| 18:52.26 | SportChick | GU does not permit 1v1 matches? |
| 18:52.29 | menotume | you're wrong |
| 18:52.34 | menotume | NO |
| 18:52.37 | SportChick | really? |
| 18:52.41 | SportChick | they allow it? |
| 18:52.41 | menotume | lemme check |
| 18:52.47 | menotume | NO 1v1 |
| 18:52.56 | SportChick | will you come and let them know at dub59997 |
| 18:52.59 | SportChick | they do not believe me |
| 18:53.00 | Birdie | 2vs2 minimum |
| 18:53.10 | SportChick | they are 1/2 way into a match 1v1 |
| 18:53.26 | Hotman | it s not the first one too |
| 18:53.34 | menotume | well, it's not mentioned in the rules that i see so far |
| 18:54.58 | SportChick | Hotman: they played others? or other teams have? |
| 18:55.24 | Hotman | SportChick: this is what i heard |
| 18:55.24 | menotume | well, it's not mention in the rules or faq |
| 18:55.25 | SportChick | Birdie: you may want to be sure someone adds it into the rules since it's not mentioned and it seems to be an issue now :( |
| 18:55.27 | menotume | it should be |
| 18:55.32 | SportChick | menotume: I agree |
| 18:56.18 | Hotman | they told me that they asked some admins and they said 1v1 is allowed... |
| 18:56.27 | SportChick | yeah, they just said it again |
| 18:56.31 | SportChick | but "some admins"? |
| 18:56.38 | SportChick | now they say "iggy or some admin" |
| 18:56.39 | Hotman | donno who |
| 18:57.03 | Hotman | yeah, they mentionned iggy |
| 18:57.35 | Hotman | i dont remembre very well if it was "iggy or some admin"" sry |
| 18:58.07 | Birdie | Finally, to best enjoy the league you should join a team/clan or make a team of your own, teams have between 2 and 10 members usually. Official league matches are the real fun of the league .... |
| 18:58.27 | menotume | that's team size |
| 18:58.33 | Birdie | sadly enough not written you need to have two for a match |
| 18:58.46 | SportChick | Birdie: I should say something like "Official matches must have at least two players per team" |
| 18:58.56 | menotume | who is playing 1v1 ? |
| 18:58.58 | SportChick | "for the entire duration of the match" |
| 18:59.02 | SportChick | some noob teams |
| 18:59.05 | menotume | and/or where ? |
| 18:59.56 | ToughShooter | I've seen people continuing 1vs1 when they had 2vs2 but one had to go in the middle |
| 19:00.27 | ToughShooter | Why don't let them if they want? |
| 19:00.51 | SportChick | right now they are on dub59997 |
| 19:01.12 | ToughShooter | starting 1vs1 or continuing after one left? |
| 19:01.18 | Birdie | continueing |
| 19:01.47 | ToughShooter | Like I've seen previously with other people |
| 19:02.10 | ToughShooter | There were admins that said it is ok |
| 19:02.30 | ToughShooter | I see no reason to forbid it |
| 19:02.41 | ToughShooter | Just consistancy would be nice ;) |
| 19:03.35 | Birdie | pff i am against |
| 19:05.17 | ToughShooter | reasons? |
| 19:05.54 | Birdie | every match should at least be 2vs2, like it always was. Hard to give a good reason for that, but 1vs1 is just stupid in my eyes |
| 19:07.07 | SportChick | I agree with Birdie. When you begin a match, you begin on the premise that it will be 2v2 or 3v3 or whatever. |
| 19:08.03 | menotume | they started 2v2 |
| 19:08.41 | Birdie | and moving from 3vs3 to 2vs2 is ok, but 1vs1 is stupid |
| 19:08.46 | Birdie | allowing them to do it, i disagree:( |
| 19:09.39 | SportChick | at times, you will agree up front to change to another config during hte match if someone shows or has to leave. BUT, 1v1? that defeats the purpose of "team". |
| 19:09.48 | Birdie | right |
| 19:09.52 | Birdie | league play is teamplay |
| 19:09.56 | Birdie | i doubt you can do teamplay allone |
| 19:10.23 | ToughShooter | Some teams don't manage to have a teamplay even when they have 2 players ;) |
| 19:10.29 | menotume | ok, so what do they do? |
| 19:10.34 | CBG | suck? :P |
| 19:10.44 | CBG | (joke!!) |
| 19:10.45 | menotume | only option is forfeit |
| 19:10.49 | Birdie | right |
| 19:10.53 | Birdie | should be a forfeit |
| 19:10.58 | menotume | cause, these guys won't just cancel |
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| 19:10.58 | Birdie | no not forfeit |
| 19:11.02 | CBG | finish game another time...? |
| 19:11.02 | Birdie | it has to be cancelled |
| 19:11.09 | Birdie | or finishing it on another time |
| 19:11.09 | menotume | oh ? |
| 19:11.22 | menotume | that makes it easy to cancel a match that you are losing |
| 19:11.38 | menotume | it should be: |
| 19:11.38 | Birdie | they only did 10 min match 2vs2 |
| 19:11.44 | Birdie | a match is 30min |
| 19:11.58 | Birdie | they should play 20min on another time |
| 19:12.02 | menotume | teams *SHOULD* agree to cancel or finish another time, but if both teams don't agree, it's a forfiet |
| 19:12.14 | Admirarch | menotume: Then you just never match them again |
| 19:12.30 | Birdie | "if both teams dont agree its forfeit", than the winning team will never agree |
| 19:12.30 | menotume | ya |
| 19:12.39 | Birdie | well at least with people like that |
| 19:12.51 | menotume | well, if you just cancel, then some people will do that to cancel a losing matcj |
| 19:13.04 | Birdie | thats why they should continue it on another time |
| 19:13.07 | Birdie | 20min |
| 19:13.13 | menotume | *should* being the key word |
| 19:13.49 | Birdie | well than make them to |
| 19:13.55 | menotume | heh |
| 19:14.03 | Birdie | let me try.. |
| 19:14.14 | menotume | also, n00b teams have to learn to not leave cause their mother is calling them |
| 19:16.35 | Admirarch | Have I mentioned that I love the seventeen pauses necessary to complete a gu match? |
| 19:17.18 | Birdie | lol |
| 19:17.21 | Birdie | somethimes its really worser:( |
| 19:17.23 | Birdie | worse |
| 19:25.11 | Admirarch | (I'm maligning most of the league there, I know that the majority of people are okay) |
| 19:48.17 | menotume | ok, i added a rule to duc site ... |
| 19:48.18 | menotume | http://my.bzflag.org/league/index.php?link=rules#95 |
| 19:48.38 | menotume | DLB will have to review it, but it may be what you want at GU too |
| 19:52.52 | Birdie | why not removing both points and let finish them later if they dont agree on what to do? |
| 19:58.42 | menotume | Birdie, what if losing team leaves, and they never finish the match |
| 19:59.01 | menotume | please discuss it in gu forums, and change as desired |
| 19:59.24 | CBG | i think menotume's got it down good. |
| 19:59.30 | menotume | add a clause - must try to coplete the match. if this is not done within 7 days .... |
| 19:59.38 | menotume | whatever |
| 19:59.52 | Birdie | ok, will do |
| 19:59.57 | CBG | 2 weeks, imho. |
| 19:59.59 | Birdie | not htat i want to do difficult of course:) |
| 20:00.01 | Birdie | that |
| 20:02.09 | menotume | atg and qd and mistake and even ... *gasp* Birdie can edit that page :) |
| 20:02.47 | Birdie | i wont change anything without its being discusses |
| 20:02.55 | Birdie | its a good "general" thing what is written now:) |
| 20:07.19 | Birdie | add on gu to for now? |
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| 20:08.54 | menotume | already there, birdie |
| 20:09.00 | menotume | bottom of FAQ page |
| 20:09.06 | menotume | come on, keep up ! |
| 20:09.22 | Birdie | oh fax |
| 20:09.25 | Birdie | faq |
| 20:09.29 | Birdie | i was looking to rules |
| 20:09.34 | Birdie | opsala:( |
| 20:09.40 | Birdie | that was a strong beer.. |
| 20:09.45 | menotume | :D |
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| 21:38.20 | uso | well written, menotume |
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