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01:02.00CBG~pbm2
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02:37.14*** topic/#guleague is Here you can discuss everything about the guleague || if you dont have a voice and need one, ask an op
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11:27.00Birdiehttp://gu.bzleague.com/index.php?link=teams
11:27.06Birdieicf 3th, its like a dream
11:30.06quantumdotyou have played tbo too much, you could be higher otherwise
11:30.30quantumdotfollow phagos strategy :)
11:42.46Pommeswhat is phagos strategy?
11:44.30Birdienot matching tbo that much:)
11:44.39Birdiebut if we loose vs tbo, we loose like 5 points
11:44.40Pommesicf instead? ;-)
11:44.53Birdiethey dont match us that much, and if they do only 3vs3
11:45.15Birdieor it has to be trac and saturos together
11:45.31PommesI don't like more than 2vs2 that much - I get confused if so many bullets fly around me
11:45.46Birdie3vs3 is the best
11:45.53Birdie4vs4 is messy allready
11:46.01Pommesyeah
11:46.07Birdie2vs2, i'm not good enough for that
11:46.29Birdiealthough my teamplay is getting better, even won with foo vs deathdaler and upsetter
11:46.50Upsettergrrr
11:46.52Upsetter:)
11:47.01Birdie:)
11:47.15PommesI'm too bad for anything then
11:47.26Birdiein 3vs3 we are getting strong
11:47.56Birdiebut vs phago, they always camp above, and that sux:)
11:47.57PommesI'm best in 2vs2 but even there I'm just bad
11:48.01Birdieand tbo is to good (at least for me)
11:48.59Pommessure - but it's fun to play against them anyway
11:49.10Birdietbo? yes
11:49.14Birdieis why we match them so much
11:49.16Pommesmore fun than most other teams
11:49.30Pommes(apart from icf of course ;-)
11:49.42Birdieits funny, tbo was matching icf, and doc holiday wanted a match. And both tbo and icf only wanted to rematch and not match doc:)
11:49.55Birdieand we rematched over and over and over:)
11:56.23ToughShooterBirdie: HIX is a camper map..
11:56.56ToughShooterYou take what you get so do you expect all not to camp?
11:57.42Birdiethere is a difference between camping and camping
11:58.26Birdieand i say camping for phago , cause once they have your flag they only go in the air
11:58.35Birdieand the others are in the air to to defend the flag runner
11:58.46Pommeswell - I would do the same because I'm not got enough on the ground :)
11:59.00PommesI get further above
11:59.16Birdiei dont care the first floor
11:59.24Birdiebut running of that top, bah:)
11:59.24ToughShooterI drive also in the air with enemy flags like all the time because of the bad spawns
11:59.29Pommesok then - I take the 1st floor :)
11:59.36Birdiebut i shouldnt complain, i should adjust to that style, but i hate it
11:59.41Birdieis why i wont play phago much
11:59.52Birdiedont *
12:01.14ToughShooterIt spawns me all the time in the middle of nowhere so why should I risk dying more than necessary?
12:01.39PommesMaybe the map should not have the 2nd level-bridges in the middle so that people have to come down
12:01.57Birdieor remove the top in the middle
12:02.02ToughShooteraww
12:02.08Pommes:)
12:02.16Birdieso you have one cross above
12:02.28ToughShooterThe only part I like in the map :(
12:02.30Birdiei like that idea:)
12:02.34PommesIt would make it more interesting :)
12:02.37Birdieyep
12:02.45Birdieand less advantage for phago:)
12:02.50Pommeslol
12:03.06PommesWell - they're good so that won't hurt them much
12:04.10Pommesbut iirc phago never "crosses" the cross on 2nd level.
12:04.24Pommesthey just go until the block and the go down
12:04.31Pommesstraight to their base
12:04.38Birdiedepends
12:04.46Birdiebut removing that mid thing would be damn interesting:)
12:04.51ToughShooterWhat scares me is players like RB2 :/
12:05.09PommesI'm scared by anybody
12:05.11ToughShooterWhen I drive with them I get seasick
12:05.19Pommes:)
12:05.28Pommestrue
12:05.56Birdierb2 is one of the best
12:06.36ToughShooterYupp, it's just that I can't spy his tricks out because I get seasick
12:08.03ToughShooterSadly people are not going to battle against me on servers where I have 190ms lag ;)
12:09.14ToughShooterSpin jumps are a lot easier with much lag
12:13.16PommesI use keys - spinjumps are more or less luck for me ...
12:13.36PommesDon't know if somebody can do decent spinjumps with keys
12:13.59ToughShooterOnly edini, AFAIK
12:14.14Pommesedini? never heard of him
12:14.47ToughShooterHe played a lot 1.5 years ago at secretplace
12:18.16Birdiei still consider ctf players on ducati and gu, better than ffa people
12:18.33Birdiepeople who rock on gu and ducati, are for me the better players on bzflag
12:18.41Birdiecause they have ground + air skill
12:19.04ToughShooterAt GU you don't need very much air skill
12:19.14Birdiejumping skill
12:19.19Birdiewithout that you are nothing
12:19.32ToughShooterMost people climb on one box and then stay there all the time, it works good to get points
12:20.03Birdienot that many do that anymore, cause its rather lame
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12:20.20Birdiethere used to be a lot of "real" campers on 5154
12:20.29Birdiei was one to looooong time ago
12:20.34Birdiebut since the league it all changed
12:20.37ToughShooterYes, that's what I mean
12:20.58Birdieonly some with very poor groundskill still do it
12:20.59ToughShooterI am really good on wide open ground
12:21.18ToughShooterHIX is therefore exactly the opposite of what I need ;)
12:21.20Birdiethats cause you dodge with your screan and not with your radar
12:22.00ToughShooterI use both nowadays
12:22.41ToughShooter60% screen, 35%radar and 5% I look somewhere else in my room and continue driving
12:22.59Birdie90% radar
12:23.09Pommesmaximum :)
12:23.10Birdiethe other 10% is for i defend and the guy is moving to my flag
12:23.31Birdieand also for my jumpkills
12:24.02ToughShooterA while ago (1.10.x) I steered 80% radar, but in 2.x the graphics got so pretty ;)
12:24.42PommesI had to switch them all off - my compi is too slow
12:25.11Birdiei turned many things off to, and i sitll have only 40 fps
12:26.25ToughShooterI have turned many things on, 'cause I like animated fish like Jeff would say ;)
12:27.50ToughShooterMy driver is a tool for me to get FPS down, I have 200FPS with all turned off, so I limited it in driver to 60FPS and enabled some pretty things
12:28.26Birdiei'm so jealous on all your peoples fps
12:30.00SaturosI have 25-30 so dont complain. :P
12:30.05ToughShooterDon't be jealous, at 200FPS my CPU is doing a lot of work, when I go down with CPU to 200MHZ I get only like 30FPS max and at full speed it's rather loud and I get concentration problems
12:30.34Birdie~slap birdie for complaining while his fps rox
12:30.49aptACTION slaps birdie for complaining while his fps rox, keep your grubby fingers to yourself!
12:32.37ToughShooterBirdie: I've played a long time on my ibook and I must say it is not so bad as long it doesn't get under 30FPS you can hardly notice
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14:17.42quantumdot~gu5154
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15:02.05[dmp]howdy
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15:14.15CBGheya
15:14.36RedBaron2hi there
15:14.38brad2901uhoh
15:14.44CBGhey [dmp] too
15:14.46RedBaron2~lart brad
15:14.59CBGBZContest is hard today :/
15:15.07CBGeither that or its really obvious
15:16.07Pommesit's really obvious ( i think )
15:16.21CBGin that case I think I know it
15:16.33CBGI guess we'll see in about an hour...
15:17.53RedBaron2is that theone with samy shivering?
15:18.20CBGyep
15:18.21Pommessssshhhhhh
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15:27.38CBGoh no..!
15:27.41CBG:P
15:28.07[dmp]:)
15:28.13quantumdotcbg i've seen some servers starting with cbg.bzflag... are those yours?
15:28.18Birdiehowdy dmp
15:28.19[dmp]i'll .. do something evil with that addition
15:28.25[dmp]howdy birdie
15:28.42quantumdotdo so [dmp], i dont think you know what doing evil is anyways :P
15:29.10[dmp]:)
15:29.29[dmp]Well if thats true, im not really that sad about it :)
15:30.00CBGquantumdot: yep :)
15:30.06quantumdotgeez
15:30.10CBGonly 2 so far, i'm gonna make more soon.
15:30.12CBGhehee
15:30.14quantumdotwhere are they based?
15:30.19CBGUSA
15:30.25quantumdotdo you pay the bills?
15:30.29CBGNope. :)
15:30.48[dmp]CBG: if i ever get working on my ladder plugin, would you mind running it on a ctf server?
15:31.03CBG[dmp]: no, of course not.
15:31.35brad2901[dmp]: is the plugin available anywhere?
15:31.41brad2901I could put it on pillbox
15:32.22[dmp]brad2901: nope. Its not really done. And since the plugin wont work without an "account" on the ladder, there is no point in having it available
15:32.45brad2901aH, OK
15:32.48brad2901oops caps
15:32.58[dmp]but if i worried alittle less about bzflag and coded alittle more, it wouldnt be to hard to fix it
15:33.07brad2901:)
15:33.11CBG:)
15:38.06Birdiei see dmp changed names on all places again, even the league site:)
15:38.09Birdieno more meacan:(
15:38.37[dmp]i shot meacan
15:38.49[dmp]he was doing the can-can one time too many
15:39.01Birdieheh
15:39.18[dmp]and since people keep calling me dmp and gf also began to pressure me.. :)
15:40.19RedBaron2au
15:40.27RedBaron2lol, to be honest i don't know which i like better
15:40.38RedBaron2good o'le dumpee
15:40.48RedBaron2or the cannedman
15:41.17[dmp]well, now i can use the old flying instructor team again :)
15:41.31[dmp]~[dmp]
15:41.32apt[[dmp]] the flying instructor
15:41.32RedBaron2ah right :)
15:41.37[dmp]yeah :)
15:41.42[dmp]~meacan
15:41.43apti guess meacan is a brillaint critique
15:42.02[dmp]uh.. thats cbg if i recall correctl :)
15:42.04[dmp]y
15:44.03[dmp]but anyway, i doubt i will change it again
15:44.34CBG~factinfo meacan
15:44.34aptmeacan -- created by CBG <n=CBG@cpc2-stme1-5-1-cust130.cdif.cable.ntl.com> at Thu Oct  6 21:37:02 2005 (186 days); it has been requested 4 times, last by [dmp], 2m 51s ago.
15:44.50CBGbleh. i don't remember doing that
15:45.06[dmp]i think it was some feedback of a picture or webdesign
15:45.15CBGmaybe. :)
15:46.11[dmp]how sad, someone writes something nice about me, and they forget it :) Blasted
15:46.18CBGheh! :D
15:46.32CBG~karma meacan
15:46.32aptmeacan has karma of 5
15:46.35CBG~karma [dmp]
15:46.35apt[dmp] has karma of 3
15:46.41CBG~[dmp]++
15:46.58CBG~[dmp]++
15:47.02CBG~karma [dmp]
15:47.02apt[dmp] has karma of 12
15:47.06CBGmuch better. :)
15:47.15[dmp]and now 3 channels highlight :)
15:47.23CBGonly 3?
15:47.28[dmp]yeah
15:47.32CBGI did 8, i think.
15:47.33CBG:P
15:47.42[dmp]3+8 = 12? :)
15:47.51[dmp]hah! i used my addition!
15:47.52CBGI did it here twice :)
15:47.59[dmp]oh
15:48.02CBGhehe
15:48.16[dmp]i got it in #bzleague  #essy  .. and here
15:48.25[dmp]no silvercat
15:48.27Birdiei got it in several other places:(
15:49.19[dmp]Birdie: like you never have done it :-)
15:49.39Birdienot in so many channels:)
15:49.45CBGheh
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20:47.20brad2901Birdie: pingaling
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