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00:22.27SportChick~mr_molez++
00:55.31im_fine_uhello?
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03:51.51guuNew news from gumatches: Apr 05 03:50 => Insane Crazy Funsters:6, Eagle Squadron:2
03:52.26slime_bzbawww
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08:26.04quantumdotbrad2901: are you there?
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09:26.52brad2901quantumdot: I am now
09:27.27quantumdotthank you for the offer of new match servers for GU
09:28.25brad2901np, is it ok to play there then?
09:29.29quantumdotMy vote is yes of course. I told birdie. But we have to formally ask other admins.
09:29.46quantumdotalthough i cant see any obstacle to this
09:30.03brad2901ok, sounds good
09:30.29Birdiei doubt there will come rejections
09:30.40Birdiebrad never caused big problems:)
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09:30.46quantumdotit should be decided in one or two days max. Depends on how long takes to read the admin-forum
09:31.05brad2901ok
09:31.44quantumdoti doubt there is any problem, quite the opposite Birdie. It is a relief to have more servers
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09:32.12brad2901yes
09:32.19quantumdotseems like mana is still complaining about molez's
09:33.08Pommeswhat about ladse? Is that a match-server?
09:33.41Birdieyes
09:33.45brad2901Pommes: yes, but long needs to upgrade the server
09:33.48Birdiewas it up yesterday?
09:33.57brad2901~bzfquery ladse.de
09:34.03Birdieah yay
09:34.07Pommes:)
09:34.13Birdieand i suggest not to pause on that server
09:34.21Pommeswhy?
09:34.22brad2901..why?
09:34.22Birdieits like that we crashed it some days ago:(
09:34.26brad2901heh
09:34.27UpsetterBirdie: hehe
09:34.42Birdiei might have written the wrong command, i dunno
09:34.48Birdie2.0.2 had allready the pause command?
09:36.29brad2901not sure
09:36.58Birdiethat could have been the reason to
09:45.56PommesI recently had a problem on 5158: I was practising there (alone) and suddenly my flag was completely gone.
09:46.08PommesI had that twice already in different situations.
09:46.25PommesThe little arrows which point you to the flag were also gone.
09:46.35PommesAnybody else had this?
09:47.02quantumdotnah, you cheated pommes
09:47.18Pommessure
09:47.22Pommes;-)
09:47.55quantumdotit's a nice trick to do with your flag in a match: just make it disappear
09:48.05quantumdoti think i'll try it against TBO next time
09:48.06PommesBut I didn't do it intentinoally
09:48.16Pommesand wasn't able to reproduce it
09:48.31PommesOnce I tried to pass teh flag via teleport
09:48.38PommesBut it never arrived anywhere
09:48.46quantumdotheheh
09:48.53quantumdothyperspace?
09:48.58Pommesmaybe
09:49.35PommesBut probably TBO will notice that your flag is not there if you try that early in the match
09:50.13quantumdotyes, maybe one can use it after 10-0
09:50.19Pommes;-)
09:50.21quantumdotso to avoid to be creamed
09:50.41PommesSo is it a bug or a feature?
09:50.52quantumdota feature indeed!
09:51.01Pommesok - funny feature ... :)
10:03.34quantumdotBirdie: ping
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10:16.53Birdiepong(wops)
10:17.28quantumdotbirdie and Redsoxfan90 on Pizzabeers! for pillbox league, Will bz world ever stop surprising me ??
10:17.32quantumdothehe
10:17.44Birdiepuh he joined without asking and i kicked him
10:17.50quantumdotomg
10:22.50Birdiethere we go, closed the team
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12:29.32Birdietss!
12:29.48brad2901uhoh
13:09.04usoquantumdot: i'm not complaining about molez's server in special, i actually never played there as it was always suspect to me that redsox advertised it ;)
13:09.32usoi only think in general teams should be able to decide where they match
13:10.17usoand yay brad, nice to have new match servers!
13:13.23usowhere will they be located? let me check my ping :)
13:13.23SportChick~brad2901++
13:13.36usoyes
13:13.40SportChickuso: the ping is better for me there than on gu, but not as good as dub
13:13.43uso~brad2901++
13:13.47usonhi sc :)
13:13.58SportChickhowdy uso :)
13:13.59SportChick~n
13:14.01aptextra, extra, read all about it, n is the disease bzflag players get when they play too much. There is no cure.
13:14.02usoargh, the n
13:22.56ToughShooterSportChick: What ping times do you get when pinging 217.237.150.33 ?
13:23.41SportChickpfft
13:23.46SportChickToughShooter: you're gonna make me work?
13:23.46SportChick!
13:24.52ToughShooterI only wonder because my university is only one hop away from me...they have a better connection than anything I've ever seen :o
13:27.33brad2901uso: the server is in Frankfurt, Germany
13:28.37SportChickToughShooter: I never remember how to ping
13:29.23ToughShooterWrite "ping " into your "dos box" or whatever it is called on Windows(R) and then the ip-adress
13:29.25SportChickbetween 188ms and 198ms with an average of 191ms, toughshooter
13:29.42ToughShooterIs that better than on dub?
13:29.58SportChickit's about the same
13:30.10brad2901for me: Minimum = 29ms, Maximum = 41ms, Average = 30ms
13:30.16usosounds good, connected to de-cix?
13:31.08brad2901yep
13:31.21ToughShooterMy university seems to have a connection to DE-CIX with something around 100Gb/s
13:32.15usoshould be good for me :), will test it in the evening
13:33.17ToughShooterWell, I can not run a server from there as the admins are not likely to agree on this
13:33.33brad2901[SERVER->] [ 22] bomber     :  11 +-  0ms
13:33.34ToughShooterI just wondered about the peering
13:33.59usoToughShooter: min 31, avg 32, max 35 for me
13:34.29ToughShooterbrad2901: I have been observed at 5 +- 0ms at viper (4ms software lag) ;)
13:34.50ToughShooterI want such a connection at home :((
13:34.53brad2901bah fine, you win :)
13:35.17usocould be suspected to be on lan :)
13:36.02brad2901heh, maybe ;)
13:36.12ToughShooterWell, it isn't. It's an entirely different provider actually
13:37.07usocoffee break ...
13:37.31brad2901~coffee uso
13:37.32aptACTION pours some hot, steamy, strong, black coffee on brad2901 's lap
13:37.38brad2901...
13:37.41brad2901fine ;)
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15:50.14guuNew news from gumatches: Apr 05 15:44 => T.B.O.:6, T42 (tea for two):3 || Apr 05 11:45 => Eagle Squadron:11, [F]usion:1
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16:02.30guuUpsetter: Apr 05 15:44 => T.B.O.:6, T42 (tea for two):3 || Apr 05 11:45 => Eagle Squadron:11, [F]usion:1 || Apr 05 03:50 => Insane Crazy Funsters:6, Eagle Squadron:2 || Apr 04 21:56 => Enough Is Enough!:7, TTT:2 || Apr 04 20:04 => [phagozytose]:7, Day of Destruction {DoD}:2
16:05.07SaturosYay... we beat DoD. :D
16:13.58Birdiequantumdot ping
16:21.33GillySaturos: ow, who were playing ?
16:23.01Saturosknock and macnus
16:23.05SaturosWasn't hard...
16:23.13Saturosknock used to be better
16:23.15Gillyand you ?
16:23.26Gillyhe hasn't been playing much lately, I guess, not sure though
16:23.46Saturostrac and me
16:23.52Gillyok, trac's good
16:24.11SaturosHe had a bad day though... -6 in the end.
16:24.12Gillyand you are too, i'm not gonna say anything against that :D
16:24.19Saturos:)
16:24.36SaturosI hope pino will catch DoD soon. :D
16:24.40Gilly:)
16:24.47GillyNot if I'm playing :P
16:25.24GillyNo, really, well, we lost carnage and wizard isn't playing very often
16:25.32Gillynot good for us
16:26.25GillyI wonder how long does carnage's ban last..
16:28.17SaturosI really don't know... maybe birdie can comment on that.
16:30.32GillyWell, it's not position on the plaque so much that matters to me, it's just fun to play, especially with DoD :)
16:31.24GillyI'm still looking forward for my first pillbox match too.. I got a very promising team there too, and I mean by promising that all of them are my ducati friends :)
16:35.47SaturosI won't join the pb-league I think.
16:35.55SaturosOne league is enough...
16:36.22GillyYeah, well, my teams aren't so active as I so I can have more teams to have a match sometimes :)
16:36.22SaturosI'll focuse on GU and laugh about you all when you cannot jump and rico anymore. :P
16:36.27Gilly:D
16:36.33GillyI can rico, but not jump
16:36.46GillyJumping is my real problem
16:36.47SaturosPlay pillbox a day and you cant rico. :D
16:36.53Gillynah
16:36.56Gillynot true :)
16:37.00SaturosFor me it is.
16:37.04Gillyuh
16:37.13GillyI seldom play only on one server for a day...
16:37.15GillyI switch often
16:37.36Gillytoday I haven't played much though, no time, and this computer I'm sitting at atm. doesn't run bz :)
16:38.07SaturosI play 15 minutes ducati and when I return to GU I can't organize my three shots, I miss every jump... it really sux.
16:38.15Gillyuh
16:38.31SaturosI never played something else than GU.
16:38.31Birdiei cant even do 3shots close to each other..
16:38.35GillyI seldom shoot three shots on GU, I always put first two, wait for the other one to dodge and face me, and shoot the last one :)
16:38.54Gillyonly shoot the last one if the other one doesn't get killed by the first two of course :)
16:39.02GillyBirdie: there's a trick :) use mouse wheel to shoot
16:39.09Birdieeww no
16:39.11SaturosNo... three is nice. You dont have to wait for him do dodge.
16:39.22Birdiei shoot with my 2 mousekeys
16:39.25GillyI almost always dodge the three
16:39.29GillyI shoot with my 3 mousekeys :P
16:39.30Birdieand for 2 shots thats fine, but not the 3th one
16:39.41Gillythe wheel + left + right
16:39.47Birdiewow:)
16:39.51Gillyand mostly use left and right
16:39.52Birdiei wouldnt be able to do that
16:40.10Birdieyou use 3 fingers?
16:40.16Gillyno :)
16:40.22Gillyoh wait, maybe i do
16:40.24Gillyi'm not sure
16:40.25Gilly:)
16:40.31Birdielol
16:40.35Gillyno, i think it's only two
16:40.40Birdie:)
16:41.01Gillyi use the same finger to shoot with right button as the wheel
16:41.09SaturosI have left mouse and q
16:41.15Gillyand always the first finger from thumb on the left mouse
16:41.21Saturosq is next to TAB which makes it easy to have a finger on it
16:41.42SaturosWheel is equipped too but I dont use it often.
16:41.44Gillyyou use q to shoot 3 bullets in a row ?
16:41.51SaturosI use q and left mouse
16:41.56Gillywow
16:42.00Gillyand weird
16:42.03Birdiei need my other hand for my zooms and jump, i cant take another firebutton
16:42.06SaturosThen you hammer on both. :D
16:42.19GillyBirdie: same for me
16:42.24GillyI zoom and jump with left hand
16:42.27SaturosI dont know about trac but the other phagos all play with q and left mouse.
16:42.28Birdiesome use 3shoot keys
16:42.32Birdieand zoom with the same hand???
16:42.34Birdieand jump??
16:42.40Saturosyes.
16:42.45Gillyzoom the radar and jump with the same left hand
16:42.45SaturosZoom, Jump, Shoot.
16:42.51Birdiei only have 5 fingers! and i cant focus so much on them
16:42.57GillyI play piano :)
16:43.07Saturostrac jumps with right mouse
16:43.14Gilly:)
16:43.29Birdie:s
16:43.38Gillyleft + right mouse to shoot is what i like, that's because I play so much ducati
16:43.39SaturosThat is ugly... I always hammer on right mouse button in duels. My whole log is full with "Looking at..."
16:43.54Birdiei cant do that
16:43.55Birdiei shoot with it
16:44.12GillyI used to do that, but when I changed right to shoot I don't look at the people I shoot :)
16:44.12Birdiei was one of the first with the idea of 2 mouse keys:)
16:44.15Gillyhunt is for that
16:44.16Birdiemost use kb for shooting
16:44.35GillyBirdie: I must say I like the idea :) even if I wasn't one of the first :P
16:44.47GillyIt allows accurate doubles in ducati
16:44.48Birdie:)
16:44.51Gillywheel isn't accurate
16:44.52Birdieon ducati it rox
16:44.57Birdieyou can do the best doubles
16:45.00Gillyyup
16:45.05SaturosO_o
16:45.09Birdiewizard once told me: you have the best doubles from the whole league:)
16:45.12Birdiebut thats long time ago..
16:45.15Saturoshehe
16:45.17Gillyand if you get close enough in GU too, you can do killing doubles there too
16:45.47GillyBirdie: iggy is really powerful in 1vs1 double shooting
16:45.57Gillyor cass
16:46.05Birdieyea he is good
16:46.12SaturosHe is good in everything...
16:46.18Gillydax does equally well with 1 bullet :)
16:46.19SaturosHis jumping is almost incredible.
16:46.41Birdieyes he never misses
16:46.49SaturosSometimes he does.
16:46.54SaturosBut really rare.
16:47.00GillyIf I had a really good day I could beat iggy in ducati 1vs1.. in GU: I lose. :)
16:47.18Gillybut usually I lose in ducati too
16:47.38Gillydon't know atm though, it's been a while since i played against him last time
16:47.43Gillythat time i couldn't dodge his doubles at all
16:47.55Birdiein the championship last year, i won vs iggy but it was damn close:)
16:48.32Gillyyou know, it's so irritating: you can't face him to dodge, he'll get you. When you don't face him, he gets close and gets you anyway :)
16:48.47Birdiehehe thats the trick:)
16:48.51Birdiehe can read you
16:48.55Birdieyou have to do surprising things
16:49.06Gillythe point is not to let him so near that he can't shoot the killing doubles
16:49.12Gillyand do rico and stuff
16:49.16Birdiethe point is to kill him before he comes back:)
16:49.21Birdiehe comes close*
16:49.24Gillyyes
16:49.26Birdieor to face him to
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16:50.05Gillyi myself have become better in my doubles too... it took quite a while of training
16:50.10GillyI used to play almost singles only
16:56.03quantumdotBirdie: pong, sry i was afk
17:04.17quantumdotwe have a new official server, provided by brad, for GU league. Go and enjoy :)
17:04.26quantumdotbrad.bzflag.org:5158
17:04.34brad2901:)
17:04.48SaturosWhere is it located?
17:04.51SportyGalyay!
17:04.56SportyGal~brad2901++
17:04.57quantumdotnear you satur
17:05.03quantumdotgermany
17:05.13SaturosGood... I'll make a checker-update tomorrow.
17:05.17SportyGalbrad2901: can you put one there?
17:05.27brad2901lol
17:05.28Saturoswith brad's, ladse and the pillbox-servers
17:05.30brad2901wish I could
17:05.46SportyGalbrad2901: if you do, you'll get LOTS of karma :)
17:06.59brad2901maybe all bzflaggers could move to bzland
17:07.11brad2901then we wouldn't have any issues with high pings
17:07.23SportyGalhehe
17:11.59Saturosbig lan :P
17:15.10Birdiesaturos: you should have knew that, if you looked to the adminforum:)
17:30.43guuNew news from gumatches: Apr 05 17:28 => [pinozytose]:5, Enough Is Enough!:5
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17:48.48CBGSaturos: what? I got 0 points? o.O
17:49.39CBGI got 2 right, for sure.
17:51.53SaturosHmm... I wondered why I didnt get a mail from you.
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17:52.02CBGWhat?
17:52.03CBGI sent one!!
17:52.08CBGAbout midnight my time...!
17:52.12SaturosWhat were your answers?
17:52.17CBGI had peace love and happiness
17:52.20CBGdarkdragon
17:52.24CBGand Workaphobia
17:52.31CBGso I should get 2, I thought :(
17:52.33SaturosNice answers...
17:52.50SaturosI'll believe you...
17:52.57brad2901he lies!
17:53.00brad2901:)
17:53.04CBG:(
17:53.09CBGdamn homtail
17:53.12CBGso many problems with it
17:54.01brad2901yeah, I don't like homtail either
17:54.02CBGI think I will clear out all the spam from my gmail and use that as my normal one.
17:54.02SaturosHotmail is made by Microsoft. No need to wonder. :P
17:56.31CBGyeah :(
17:56.36CBGthanks Saturos
17:56.51Saturosnp :)
17:56.56CBGI got a shock when I looked at the site !! :)
18:01.59guuNew news from gumatches: Apr 05 18:01 => T.B.O.:6, [pinozytose]:0
18:02.07CBGSaturos: hmm, is it ok to tell you the answer for today on PM, or shall I _try_ to email it?
18:02.19SaturosPM is fine.
18:02.32SaturosI would prefer mails but PM works too.
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19:18.33usobrad2901: what provider hosts your server? if I go to internetserviceteam.com I only get an empty page
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20:55.33guuNew news from gumatches: Apr 05 20:50 => Insane Crazy Funsters:6, T42 (tea for two):2
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21:11.24guuNew news from gumatches: Apr 05 21:11 => Insane Crazy Funsters:5, HELLION:4
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21:17.43SportyGalhi ert
21:17.44SportyGal:)
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21:18.27Erthy
21:18.29SportyGalohhh are we +m here?
21:18.34Birdieno
21:18.38SportyGaloh, ok
21:18.41SportyGaljust checking
21:18.42Ertwhy i have + now?
21:18.46Birdiebrad is just to friendly :)
21:18.48SportyGalyou have a voice :)
21:18.52Ertoh
21:18.56Erthehe
21:19.27Ert04Cool color
21:19.32Ert03:)
21:19.34CBG_hehe
21:20.13brad2901:)
21:21.14Erthy cbg brad
21:23.31brad2901hi ebert(?)
21:23.43Ertnot ebert
21:23.46Ertert
21:23.51Ertshort, simple ...
21:23.57Erta good name
21:27.07Ert~lart a tank
21:27.24Ert~lart a tank
21:27.39Ert~lart Ert
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21:38.53uso~seen ert
21:38.55aptert is currently on #essy (16m 33s) #bzflag (16m 33s) #guleague (16m 33s) #t42 (16m 33s). Has said a total of 31 messages. Is idling for 10m 59s, last said: 'hello?'.
21:39.15usobrad2901: hint: look at the channels he's on :)
21:39.33brad2901uso: yeah, sc told me in PM ;)
21:41.20usobrad2901: what provider hosts your server? if I go to internetserviceteam.com I only get an empty page
21:43.11brad2901uso: read PM
21:43.31SportyGal~menotume++
21:48.41SportyGal~menotume++
21:49.30SportyGal~menotume++
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21:59.26CBG_lol SportyGal
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23:29.11guuNew news from gumatches: Apr 05 22:25 => HELLION:6, Insane Crazy Funsters:3
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