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| 01:58.45 | siddhantsahu | Had one doubt. Who checks and selects student's proposal? The organization? Google is only responsible for selecting which organization will take part in that year and the funding. |
| 02:06.03 | r0bby | they really stayed for a long time |
| 02:06.06 | olly | for the benefit of others who might wonder the same, it is indeed the org that choses the students |
| 02:06.17 | olly | though google also check student eligibility, etc |
| 02:06.33 | r0bby | We've had a student who failed an eligibility check one year |
| 02:07.51 | olly | were they actually non-eligible, or couldn't find suitable proof? |
| 02:07.53 | r0bby | We request a certain number of slots -- we give google a lower and upper bound of the number of slots we want and they give each org around that number....newer organizations get a smaller number of slots |
| 02:07.58 | olly | i guess you don't know for sure either way |
| 02:08.15 | r0bby | olly: That's not something even I as Org Admin am privy to |
| 02:08.35 | r0bby | I'm sure I could ask but I usually opt to not do that |
| 02:08.40 | olly | right, but they might have told you |
| 02:09.28 | r0bby | We wound up giving up that slot because the candidate we were trying to get did not do any conributions of substance --which is a no-go -- no matter how atrong the proposal is |
| 02:09.56 | r0bby | Requiring contributions is something all orgs should do |
| 02:20.50 | fundamental | assuming you mean prior contributions to the codebase by that, I'd say that's also a function of the scale/scope of a given project |
| 02:21.40 | olly | usually it's a patch as part of the application process |
| 02:24.30 | r0bby | It has to be non-trivial as well |
| 02:24.39 | r0bby | One line = No go |
| 02:25.17 | r0bby | fundamental: the idea is to get a feel for their skills |
| 02:26.18 | fundamental | r0bby: yeah, I could see an overly trivial patch acting as a red flag |
| 02:27.47 | olly | i think some orgs have a "patch the about dialog to include your name, build the code, take a screenshot" or similar as the task which at least ensures they can check out and build the code |
| 02:36.59 | r0bby | olly: eh -- link to Merge Request/Pull Request (we straddle between GitLab and GitHub) |
| 02:37.38 | r0bby | I'm not overly concerned with the ability to build issue -- if their patch is non-trivial, they have to build it |
| 02:44.59 | olly | all I'm trying to note is that for some orgs a trivial patch is what they're asking for |
| 02:50.36 | olly | for example, https://www.abisource.com/wiki/Google_Summer_of_Code_2013#Additional_Requirements (which pretty much tells them where to patch even) |
| 02:51.36 | olly | seems a lost opportunity to actually test coding skills and comprehension of the code base a little though |
| 03:41.05 | r0bby | indeed |
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| 06:17.51 | vmbrasseur | Hello, mini. |
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| 08:25.57 | Scheleon | Hello, I'm a noob and I want to donate to the open source community, where should I start |
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| 12:51.58 | sch_ | I'm a noob, want to learn more about the open source, fixing bugs etc.. where should I start? |
| 12:55.58 | blast007 | there's a student guide for GSoC: https://google.github.io/gsocguides/student/ |
| 12:57.19 | blast007 | a good way to start is to find some interesting project, joining their community (IRC, forums, mailing lists, etc), getting their code, compiling it, looking through the code, making changes, experimenting |
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| 13:21.24 | vmbrasseur | sch_: Start here: https://fossforge.com |
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| 13:22.29 | sch_ | thanks |
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| 13:23.36 | sch_ | I'm about to start learning boost c++ |
| 13:24.03 | sch_ | or should I switch to java, which one is better for open source |
| 13:25.06 | gevaerts | The best language is the language used by whatever you want to work on |
| 13:27.44 | fundamental | sch_: both languages have active followings, but if you know what application domain you're more interested in that could bias your decision |
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| 13:29.42 | sch_ | and about finding bugs and solving issues? |
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| 13:30.38 | fundamental | I would personally recommend starting with a trivial patch to a project you would be interested in if you have never contributed to open source before. |
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| 13:31.10 | fundamental | That should help familiarize yourself with the process and then you should be able to contribute more complex code. |
| 13:31.32 | fundamental | of course if you have stumbled upon a bug then it would be good to report it to the project-specific location that tracks that info. |
| 13:33.28 | sch_ | any specific c++ projects, you would recommend getting hands on |
| 13:33.30 | sch_ | ? |
| 13:35.05 | vmbrasseur | sch_: It depends upon your interests. |
| 13:35.14 | teepee- | is there any you actually use already? |
| 13:35.16 | vmbrasseur | What are you interested in besides C++? |
| 13:36.06 | sch_ | bash, I have made some projects using bash |
| 13:36.48 | sch_ | but I've never used c++ for development, just for competetive programming |
| 13:37.47 | vmbrasseur | By interests I mean hobbies. |
| 13:38.26 | vmbrasseur | For instance, do you like video games? music? fixing cars? sewing? 3-D printing? stuff like that. |
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| 13:39.10 | vmbrasseur | If you work on a project related to something you're already interested in (like a hobby), not only will the project then hold your attention better, but also you'll already be familiar with the domain. |
| 13:39.44 | vmbrasseur | So if you like music then you'd already know about things like time signatures, octaves, etc. |
| 13:39.54 | vmbrasseur | That can help you get up to speed with a project more quickly. |
| 13:40.02 | vmbrasseur | It also can help you find a project. |
| 13:40.32 | vmbrasseur | Web search: "c++ music open source" (or whatever hobby you're interested in if not music) |
| 13:42.31 | sch_ | I like music |
| 13:43.04 | fundamental_ | there were a couple of music projects last year |
| 13:43.08 | vmbrasseur | Then you may want to find a music-related project. |
| 13:43.14 | fundamental_ | and with any luck my project might get in this year |
| 13:43.46 | vmbrasseur | A music player, or maybe software for laying out sheet music, or maybe an electronic music project like SonicPi. |
| 13:43.50 | fundamental_ | (music related, though somewhat non-trivial if you have no prior experience in the languages that it's implemented in) |
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| 13:44.33 | vmbrasseur | There are apps and projects for all aspects of music creation, playing, storage, and cataloging. |
| 13:44.41 | sch_ | @vmbrasseur you working on music ? |
| 13:45.44 | vmbrasseur | sch_: No, my contributions to open source are community building, mentoring, advocacy, administration, and leadership. I no longer do any coding. |
| 13:46.24 | vmbrasseur | For instance, I wrote the book I linked to above, I work with the opensource.com team, and I'm the Vice President of the Open Source Initiative. |
| 13:46.34 | vmbrasseur | There are many ways to contribute that aren't code. :) |
| 13:47.06 | sch_ | okay thanks, i guess i'm going to start with music .. |
| 13:47.08 | sch_ | sure there are |
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| 13:48.58 | fundamental | vmbrasseur: 100%. I tend to try to initially encourage non-code contributions since my project has many non-dev users (i.e. http://zynaddsubfx.sourceforge.net/contribute.html ) |
| 13:51.06 | sch_ | okay |
| 13:52.04 | sch_ | so which language do you think is less complicated to code |
| 13:52.07 | sch_ | for networking |
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| 14:12.42 | vmbrasseur | sch_: I work for a networking company. The projects we've released are written in Python and Go. |
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| 14:18.16 | fundamental | python would be a good starter language given the amount of learning resources available for the language |
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| 17:13.31 | shandilya | hello!!....can someone guide me how to start preparing for gsoc |
| 17:14.37 | blast007 | shandilya: as a student? if so, have you read the student guide? |
| 17:15.23 | jn__ | as blast007 says, reading https://g.co/gsoc/studentguide is a good start |
| 17:15.49 | shandilya | thanks!! |
| 17:24.49 | shandilya | since the list of organizations is not out yet.....what can i do in the meantime??.. |
| 17:25.49 | jn__ | learn about an open source organizaton that you find interesting |
| 17:25.52 | vmbrasseur | shandilya: Have you ever contributed to FOSS before? |
| 17:27.01 | shandilya | no i haven't.... |
| 17:27.17 | vmbrasseur | OK. How comfortable are you with git? |
| 17:28.03 | shandilya | i have been following some ml repos for a month or so... |
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| 17:31.12 | vmbrasseur | shandilya: Becoming much more familiar with how to use git will help you for just about every project that gets accepted to GSoC. |
| 17:31.59 | vmbrasseur | shandilya: Try this: https://github.com/jlord/git-it-electron |
| 17:39.27 | shandilya | thanks a lot for the help!! |
| 17:42.23 | vmbrasseur | You bet! Good luck! |
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