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| 02:09.31 | cfoch-al1 | hi |
| 02:09.49 | cfoch-al1 | are there Google's open source projects I can participate on? |
| 02:10.44 | pombreda | The student manual says "While there is an official limit of five submitted proposals, you are encouraged to submit more than one high-quality proposal." ... I thought the limit this year was 2, to avoid complex cross-org reconciliation of students selected in multiple orgs? |
| 02:11.22 | cfoch-al1 | pombreda: that was not for me, rigth? |
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| 02:13.26 | Robert_S | pombreda: The hard limit is 5. But the data shows that students who submit more than ~2 are less likely to be selected because they aren't putting enough energy into any of them. |
| 02:14.14 | cfoch-al1 | how large should an application be? |
| 02:14.26 | cfoch-al1 | how large is too large? :) |
| 02:18.07 | olly | cfoch-al1: you'd be best to ask the org you're applying to |
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| 02:21.46 | olly | Robert_S: are there any published numbers on that? |
| 02:28.48 | cfoch-al1 | I still ask if there are Google's FOSS projects I can participate in? |
| 02:29.14 | Robert_S | olly: No. |
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| 05:36.07 | mash_ | It's great to see so many students participating who seem to know what they're doing. At my university most people only pretend to know what they're doing. At the same it makes me feel a little bit superfluous because all the great projects already have great students applying for them. No need for me to steal their spot. |
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| 21:47.02 | Robert_S | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S6IP_6HG2QE |
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| 21:57.32 | cpg | is there a template that the students need to use to submit proposals? will there be a web form they have to fill? or do we (the org) have to define a template? |
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| 21:59.35 | evis-e | hello |
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| 21:59.51 | panzone | evis-e: hi |
| 22:00.04 | suhabaobaid | hey! |
| 22:02.30 | evis-e | just playing around with irssi :P |
| 22:10.20 | olly | cpg: any template will be org-specific |
| 22:10.27 | olly | most orgs have one (google encourages it) |
| 22:11.09 | cpg | i think melange had a form before? i forget the details of this, but i think we did not have to do anything? |
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| 22:11.29 | olly | melange is dead |
| 22:11.49 | cpg | i am aware of that |
| 22:12.01 | cpg | the implication is that this is a new thing we have to do now? |
| 22:12.11 | olly | when your admin applied they would have been asked for a link to an application template if you have one |
| 22:13.03 | olly | "Application Instructions" is the form entry "Guidance for students on how to apply to your organization. Should include any prerequisites or requirements. You may wish to include a template or tips for their proposals." |
| 22:13.58 | olly | based on last year, students had to submit a PDF proposal, and were somewhat steered to using google docs to do it |
| 22:14.04 | egypt | students have to apply through gsoc, too, though don't they? so google knows who is elligible, etc. |
| 22:14.21 | olly | yes, if you don't submit in the web app, you aren't in gsoc |
| 22:14.42 | olly | you can still work with an open source project of course (like anyone can) |
| 22:16.14 | olly | cpg: an org admin should be able to edit that field now (it's in the org profile) |
| 22:16.28 | cpg | https://summerofcode.withgoogle.com/dashboard/ comes up empty (no errors) like 50% of the time |
| 22:16.52 | olly | Robert_S is probably the one to talk to about that |
| 22:18.49 | cpg | we had a form for them to introduce themselves and we put that there, but that does not include detials of the project (i.e. as a submission) |
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| 22:19.09 | cpg | we put that there in that section and that worked well also this year |
| 22:19.35 | cpg | however, ... i wonder what exactly they are asked exactly |
| 22:20.09 | olly | not sure - long ago there used to be a second test instance of melange, which was very handy for checking that sort of thing |
| 22:20.15 | cpg | if it's a pdf, we may want to have a template for that, but i (as admin) do not have access to what they will be asked |
| 22:20.35 | cpg | so i am not sure what's best |
| 22:21.05 | cpg | we have a lot students interested in our org and we're getting questions |
| 22:21.13 | olly | we just link to a wiki page with the template, so they can cut and paste that into whatever they want to write their proposal in |
| 22:22.24 | olly | I'm not judging proposals based on word processor formatting skills after all |
| 22:23.25 | cpg | the question is what will the GSOC admins will request of them |
| 22:29.03 | Robert_S | cpg: You are the only person reporting the page not coming up. If it continues to happen, please email support and we can debug over email. |
| 22:29.12 | olly | as I said, the student needs to submit a PDF and will be steered towards google docs |
| 22:29.31 | olly | at least based on last year |
| 22:30.16 | Robert_S | olly: That has not changed. |
| 22:30.29 | Robert_S | Student must submit a final proposal as PDF, and Orgs are instructed to use that to judge the student. |
| 22:31.03 | Robert_S | Students are encouraged to submit a draft proposal (slightly steered towards Google docs because we know it works well for this, but not a requirement) for pre-final-PDF interaction. |
| 22:31.12 | cpg | Robert_S: it has happened in the past (i have to click many times before i get a page), after that it seems to work for a while |
| 22:31.30 | cpg | it's as if there is a lot of JS going on and works once loaded |
| 22:32.07 | cpg | thanks for the answer. i will see if we create a template then |
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| 22:32.37 | Robert_S | There is a lot of js going on. But as I said, there are no other reports of problems |
| 22:38.51 | pombreda | olly: melange is not dead. It is just resting after a well earned retirement ;) |
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| 22:55.09 | Robert_S | pombreda: That's what we told people. We sent it here: https://youtu.be/avP5d16wEp0?t=71 |
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