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| 07:21.42 | jatin30 | Hi everyone! I applied for GSOC 2016 and did not get selected but i still want to contribute |
| 07:21.45 | jatin30 | I am new to the community and I have been into algorithmic programming from over a year now but open source code looks gibberish to me. I just started using linux. Any suggestions so that I understand and get comfartable with open source? |
| 07:25.59 | pq | jatin30, I am confused why you say "open source" looks gibberish, it's not a programming language at all. It is a way of sharing things to others. You might want to ask your target community, whatever that is. |
| 07:27.56 | valorie | certainly there is badly-written code; there are even websites which expose it |
| 07:28.28 | valorie | but it comes from everywhere, FOSS and closed-source code alike |
| 07:28.56 | jatin30 | pq: ok, thanks. Any advice on how to get my hands strong with linux or maybe what may be a good exercise to do now to increase my chances next year. |
| 07:29.33 | valorie | start fixing bugs |
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| 07:29.56 | pq | jatin30, I think that depends completely on the topic and the community you are interested in. "linux" is a far too wide field. |
| 07:30.12 | valorie | in KDE we even have Season of KDE, which allows students (and others) to do a project later in the year for credit, not money |
| 07:30.23 | valorie | some other groups do something similar |
| 07:30.43 | jatin30 | pq: Yean I want to go with some organisation involving operating systems like linux,debian or fedora |
| 07:30.55 | pq | indeed, fixing bugs, improving documentation are probably good guesses, and they involve you asking other about things, so you will get to know people |
| 07:31.05 | vraman2811 | Any Indian students completed payoneer registration..? |
| 07:32.33 | valorie | jatin30: distributions usually do mostly packaging |
| 07:33.02 | valorie | sounds like you want the Kernel community or other projects such as systemd or so |
| 07:33.25 | jatin30 | valorie: I am so new to this that I did not know the meaning of dependencies a month ago? what would be your advice to me? |
| 07:33.56 | pq | jatin30, I'd assume they have some pointers for newcomers, like how to contribute, reachable from the distribution website's front page. |
| 07:34.09 | teepee | Debian does the "reproducible builds" stuff too, which I think is also on their this years gsoc list |
| 07:34.47 | valorie | jatin30: what I meant was that distros mostly package, and don't do coding as much |
| 07:35.17 | jatin30 | yeah. thanks a lot guys for the advices |
| 07:35.24 | valorie | people who create desktops, applications, frameworks, and of course the kernel sound more like what you are looking for |
| 07:36.09 | valorie | KDE, GNOME, Mozilla, Apache, other independent orgs |
| 07:36.22 | valorie | many of whom often participate in GSoC |
| 07:38.06 | pq | distribution jobs are mostly integration tasks I imagine: how do you build this software, how do you make it co-exist with other software, how do users install software, how do you pick which versions of software you distribute, how do you test the software works, looking at users' bug reports and forwarding them upstream, etc. |
| 07:38.20 | pq | but then again, I never did distribution work |
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| 07:39.48 | pq | although, the organization behind a distribution may also be developing things like desktop environments, like Ubuntu with its... err... Unity? |
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| 07:50.15 | valorie | pq: good point |
| 07:50.32 | valorie | but afaik, no other distributions make their own desktop |
| 07:50.52 | valorie | and that is mostly Canonical doing the work, not Ubuntu-the-project |
| 07:51.24 | pq | right, sorry for confusing the terms, just goes to show how easy it is to confuse :-) |
| 07:51.32 | valorie | it is |
| 07:51.44 | valorie | is involved both with KDE and with Kubuntu |
| 07:52.01 | pq | like lots of redhat/fedora people are developing gnome, and such |
| 07:52.18 | valorie | right, but they are separate projects |
| 07:52.25 | pq | indeed |
| 07:52.29 | valorie | many distro people do more than one thing |
| 07:52.55 | pq | I don't think distro work would even qualify for GSoC really, would it? |
| 07:53.39 | satyaki3794 | valorie: is season of KDE open only to students like GSoC? |
| 07:53.59 | valorie | I've not seen distros in GSoC, but ..... unsure |
| 07:54.14 | valorie | satyaki3794: ? not understanding your question |
| 07:54.29 | valorie | KDE welcomes all contributions, from everyone |
| 07:55.20 | satyaki3794 | valorie: I assumed season of KDE is a programme like GSoC to introduce people to contributing to KDE |
| 07:55.36 | satyaki3794 | Is that not true? |
| 07:55.37 | valorie | yes |
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| 07:55.59 | valorie | but of course people can just fly by and fix a bug or so |
| 07:56.21 | valorie | people who want a mentor for a more structured program can do SoK |
| 07:56.23 | satyaki3794 | valorie: yes of course but is the programme only open to students? |
| 07:57.00 | valorie | open to anyone who makes a proposal good enough to get a mentor to step forward and offer to help them out |
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| 08:29.49 | DonKult | pq: distributions have (a lot of) native tools which they develop for their use. The installer for example â or something as "simple" as the package manager(s). Even for Debian dpkg & apt(-get) code isn't materializing out of thin air. And sometimes even students have the chance to work on it⦠(disclaimer: /me). So distribution work isn't all packaging. |
| 08:31.36 | valorie | true, DonKult, but I don't think there are enough of those coding tasks to keep even one student busy for a summer |
| 08:31.58 | valorie | unless they were doing a whole do-over |
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| 08:41.57 | DonKult | okay, this years is a whole do-over kinda project (of a part, not of the entire thing mind you), but 2010 I did^Wstarted "Multi-Arch in APT" which on the tin is just an addition. Doing work on Debian native tools isn't all that different to doing work anywhere else, even in KDE⦠|
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| 08:42.50 | valorie | DonKult: you obviously know more than I do! |
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| 08:43.03 | valorie | unsure if Debian ever participated however |
| 08:43.13 | valorie | I know they are doing Outreachy this year |
| 08:44.28 | DonKult | valorie: Debian is in GSoC. It was in 2010 (and I think before) and it still is⦠|
| 08:44.48 | valorie | oh very cool |
| 08:45.02 | valorie | so students, disregard what I said about distros |
| 08:45.19 | olly | Debian are gsoc regulars |
| 08:45.21 | valorie | although Debian is more than a distro, at least in my eyes |
| 08:45.40 | gevaerts | It's a religion? :) |
| 08:45.44 | valorie | lol |
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| 08:46.57 | valorie | imo: secure process to make free software available to all |
| 08:47.42 | gevaerts | does use debian, so he thinks he's allowed to make that sort of joke |
| 08:48.04 | valorie | oops, almost 2am here |
| 08:48.07 | valorie | time for bed |
| 08:48.10 | valorie | niters all |
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| 08:48.27 | DonKult | I would go with a lifestyle, but religion is okay ;) btw: This year 25 gsoc + 4 outreachy students: https://bits.debian.org/2016/04/welcome-summer-interns-2016.html |
| 08:49.35 | DonKult | tztztz, bed⦠at 11 o'clock in the morningâ¦â¦â¦ good night ;) |
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| 15:46.19 | spoke | In the printed name column in the foreign certification form do I need to print the name using some PDF editor or can I fill it with a pen? |
| 15:47.32 | atulhjp_ | spoke, pen worked for me :) |
| 15:47.33 | DonKult | spoke: fill it in with a pen if you must, but make it readable. (editing a pdf isn't that hard through⦠and saves trees) |
| 15:47.55 | spoke | ok thanks |
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| 16:29.52 | spoke | What is to choosen as the purpose code at payoneer? |
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| 16:30.40 | haris3301 | @spoke purpose codE? |
| 16:30.43 | haris3301 | code* |
| 16:31.12 | spoke | On my first login it's asking for a purpose code |
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| 16:31.51 | spoke | haris3301: ^ |
| 16:33.12 | haris3301 | Ok. I haven't signed up yet. So no Idea. I am still stuck trying to find what to do about SIFT code. My bank's branch does not have one. |
| 16:33.39 | Pratik151 | what is the deadline to sign up with piyoneer? |
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| 16:36.23 | spoke | pratik151: May 16 19:00 utc as mentioned in mail from Google |
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| 16:37.15 | Freso | !taxforms | spoke |
| 16:37.15 | gsocbot | spoke: "taxforms" is Don't ask about tax forms on IRC or in the student mailing list. If you have any questions or concerns, contact gsoc-support@google.com. |
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| 16:37.39 | Freso | haris3301: ^ |
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