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| 03:31.54 | thiagovsk | hey guys, if you from brazil, please |
| 03:31.54 | thiagovsk | subscribe google group : gsoc-brazil-2015 |
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| 11:52.02 | sankalp | Any specific reason why mozilla and linux foundation are not accepted this year ? |
| 11:53.44 | gevaerts | sankalp: they presumably asked for feedback, so you should ask them |
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| 11:55.59 | sankalp | gevaerts: I don't think we would have any idea because they are not the one who took the decision. |
| 11:58.00 | sankalp | I hope its not related with mozilla's deal with yahoo about default search engine |
| 11:58.30 | teepee | uh, please no speading of FUD :/ |
| 11:58.50 | gevaerts | sankalp: organisations were encouraged to ask for feedback back then. If they did, and they didn't get sufficiently detailed feedback then, what makes you think you'll get more now? |
| 11:58.59 | sankalp | Last year they had 25 student and this year gsoc dumped them. That sounds fishy |
| 11:59.22 | teepee | so there are 39 new orgs this year and some of the umbrella orgs have more sub orgs |
| 11:59.39 | teepee | also last year was 10th anniversary so it was especially huge |
| 12:01.01 | gevaerts | guesses at the total amount of money mozilla would have got from gsoc and compares it to his guess at the default search engine deal money |
| 12:01.12 | gevaerts | Yes, very comparable numbers. You must have a point |
| 12:01.36 | sankalp | teepee: whatever, google could have given them just 1 slot. It would have still better than ditching them like this which raises eyebrows. |
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| 12:01.49 | teepee | most importantly, GSOC is about the students to be supported, not about the orgs |
| 12:02.14 | sankalp | teepee: I completely disagree on this |
| 12:02.27 | teepee | sankalp: no, it doesn't. our umbrella org admin mentioned before we might be dropped as they joined for a number of years already |
| 12:02.30 | gevaerts | Really? If they'd been accepted and they got one slot, I *would* be suspicious of something going on |
| 12:02.32 | sankalp | It is actually the other way around |
| 12:03.00 | sankalp | gsoc is all about supporting the orgs, not the students |
| 12:03.05 | gevaerts | Whereas orgs coming and going is normal and expected |
| 12:03.24 | teepee | sankalp: sure, it's your opinion, but we as small org with 2 mentors are happy to be part of it and will also have benefits of cause |
| 12:04.18 | teepee | sankalp: but mentoring is also lots of work and the outcome is mainly (hopefully) more people interrested in open source - which is the whole point of it all |
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| 12:05.57 | raincrash | I have mentioned my address with a few special chars (but the melange says to use only alphanums and whitespaces) as there is no way I can write my address without them. As the labels of the welcome packs are already printed, I was wondering if it is Okay. |
| 12:08.29 | gevaerts | raincrash: I wouldn't worry. Even if the package does get lost, that's not something the google people haven't dealt with before |
| 12:08.48 | gevaerts | If things go wrong, they'll send it again, probably with more careful manual address checking |
| 12:12.50 | raincrash | gevaerts, True. The issue is pretty *old*. And I didn't feel like mailing with such issues to carol. Either way, it's difficult to write addresses with such restrictions, especially if you live in Brazil/ India. |
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| 12:14.54 | sankalp | raincrash: This is not even an issue. If melange *accepted* your address while saving for the first time, it itself means that everything is fine. Because the same db will be used to get labels printed. |
| 12:16.49 | gevaerts | Not necessarily. There could be an import into some shipping company's software which might not handle non-ascii properly |
| 12:17.01 | gevaerts | That's at least the impression I got in previous years |
| 12:18.16 | gevaerts | To be fair, if it were up to me, I'd have fired any shipping company as soon as it appeared they can't actually handle addresses... |
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| 12:19.47 | raincrash | gevaerts, Lol. Is there any way I can notify the shipping company, or am I worrying too much? |
| 12:20.25 | gevaerts | raincrash: if you want to talk to someone, carols is the only one who can help you I think |
| 12:21.14 | gevaerts | I understand your concerns, and I would probably be worrying just as much if I were in your place, but from a distance I'd say things will be all right |
| 12:22.02 | raincrash | gevaerts, Thanks. That helps a lot. I will ping carols when she's online. :) |
| 12:23.44 | sankalp | raincrash: It will be shipped via fedex and would have probably already shipped. I dont think a special character is something you should worry about in fedex. |
| 12:24.44 | sankalp | carols gets irritated over these stupid issues and will most probaby ask you to contact fedex directly :) |
| 12:25.25 | gevaerts | *today* she'll tell you to wait until the package definitely hasn't arrived, anyway |
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| 12:26.09 | raincrash | I am sure that I am not the first person with this. So I would probably wait. |
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| 15:03.39 | vin-ivar | okay, quick question |
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| 15:03.54 | vin-ivar | I don't have a last name - do I use my middle name on payoneer? |
| 15:04.07 | vin-ivar | (it's a middle-name patronymic) |
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| 15:08.11 | vineet | I am getting problem in submitting foreign certification form |
| 15:08.27 | vineet | the file when downloaded, is downloaded as zip archive |
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| 15:09.23 | vineet | and upon extracting the zip archive, the image is corrupted |
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| 15:10.00 | vineet | *when downloading the filled form, uploaded my me |
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| 19:11.35 | techguy | hello whether welcome kits already shipped? |
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| 19:11.57 | techguy | sorry whether dispatched ? |
| 19:12.34 | techguy | |Kev|: ? |
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| 19:17.36 | |Kev| | Hmm. Why did I just get a highlight? |
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| 19:18.06 | gevaerts | Because you're supposed to know these things and reply within one minute! |
| 19:18.31 | meflin | |Kev|: so what is the price of oolong right now omniscient one |
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| 20:20.12 | calistus_ | Hi guys, please how do we go about obtaining our tax form |
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| 20:27.04 | abiogenesis | calistus_, have you read the FAQ? |
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| 20:34.15 | calistus_ | Hi |
| 20:34.26 | calistus_ | Seems no one is speaking here |
| 20:34.56 | meflin | seems no one is answering questions |
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| 20:35.49 | calistus_ | Has anybody obtained or submitted his tax form? Please if you have, can you kindly share how you went through it |
| 20:36.01 | dfighter | by reading the instructions |
| 20:36.08 | dfighter | and following them |
| 20:36.10 | meflin | in the FAQ |
| 20:36.37 | calistus_ | meflin have you submitted yours? |
| 20:36.44 | dkreuter | You people could just post the link |
| 20:36.44 | dkreuter | http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/document/show/gsoc_program/google/gsoc2015/studentinfo |
| 20:36.53 | dkreuter | >Tax forms for US based students |
| 20:36.56 | dkreuter | >Tax forms for non US based students |
| 20:37.02 | meflin | me no ... no reason for me to do so |
| 20:38.06 | calistus_ | Does it mean it's not mandatory? |
| 20:38.13 | asy | It is. |
| 20:38.24 | dfighter | it means meflin isn't a student... |
| 20:38.25 | meflin | no it means I am not a student |
| 20:38.36 | asy | meflin isn't a student, that's why he doesn't need to fill the fax form. |
| 20:38.50 | calistus_ | asy have you submitted? |
| 20:38.53 | asy | But if you're an accepted student, you have to. |
| 20:38.55 | asy | Yes I did. |
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| 20:39.44 | calistus_ | are you based in US? |
| 20:39.51 | asy | I am not. |
| 20:39.57 | dkreuter | calistus_, are you? |
| 20:40.23 | calistus_ | No. outside US |
| 20:41.03 | dkreuter | Did you find your pdf? |
| 20:41.42 | calistus_ | what pdf is that |
| 20:41.50 | blast007 | calistus_: the form |
| 20:41.50 | asy | The tax form. |
| 20:41.54 | meflin | the FAQ is clear ... beyond that we are not layers or accountants |
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| 20:42.09 | dkreuter | calistus_, in the "non us" section of http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/document/show/gsoc_program/google/gsoc2015/studentinfo |
| 20:42.21 | dkreuter | >Students based outside the United States for the entirety of the program must complete and return a Foreign Certification Form. |
| 20:42.32 | dkreuter | Where "Foreign Certification Form" links to the pdf |
| 20:42.32 | blast007 | I think some information about where to go to obtain the form was also provided in the acceptance email |
| 20:42.39 | calistus_ | asy did you meet a tax official or an attorney? |
| 20:42.44 | dkreuter | no |
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| 20:42.57 | asy | No, I didn't because I didn't need it. |
| 20:43.08 | dkreuter | Apparently the amounts are below what I have to report in my country. |
| 20:44.33 | calistus_ | So how did you go about it |
| 20:44.39 | asy | calistus_, there is two cases : 1. You are based in the US, 2. You're not. |
| 20:44.44 | dfighter | how do you go about what? |
| 20:44.50 | dfighter | you were sent an email with instructions |
| 20:44.54 | dfighter | you were given a link too |
| 20:44.57 | calistus_ | The tax form |
| 20:45.01 | dfighter | have you read them> |
| 20:45.02 | dfighter | ? |
| 20:45.07 | blast007 | calistus_: It is up to *you* to decide if you need to contact a local tax professional to assist with the completion of the form. We are not tax professionals. We cannot help you fill it out. |
| 20:45.09 | meflin | fill them out turn them in |
| 20:45.24 | asy | In the first case, read the FAD about student based in the US (http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/document/show/gsoc_program/google/gsoc2015/studentinfo#us). In the second case, read this : http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/document/show/gsoc_program/google/gsoc2015/studentinfo#outside |
| 20:45.31 | dkreuter | download pdf, print it, sign it, scan it, upload it |
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| 20:47.06 | asy | Did you understand calistus_ ? |
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| 20:54.42 | calistus_ | Thanks guys. I thinK I get it now. I only need to submit a foreign certificate to Google and that's all |
| 20:55.28 | asy | If you're outside the US, yes. |
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| 20:57.01 | calistus_ | Yes I am outside the US |
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| 20:59.08 | asy | then you just have to submit a foreign certificate as you said. |
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| 21:01.20 | calistus_ | And what is required there as I can see are just to fill my name, Address, Signature and date. |
| 21:02.01 | calistus_ | Thanks asy |
| 21:02.11 | asy | Yes. No problems mate. |
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| 21:12.03 | Satyam_z | Hi to all ! Do we need to submit Foreign Certification form in pdf or jpg form? |
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| 21:15.34 | neverpanic | use whatever works for you; if it isn't sufficient, you will be contacted. |
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