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03:19.29gsoc044hello
03:19.51gsoc044i want some advice
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03:21.31ollygsoc044: i would advise asking the question you presumably have
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03:27.38thiagoThe 59th Rule of Acquisition: "Free advice is seldom cheap."
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13:00.11aravind_I want to work on an extension of firefox for gsoc.... can anyone help me?
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16:06.06new_inthi
16:06.16arthurvrhi new_int
16:06.21new_inti am new to gsoc . can you please help me?
16:06.53new_intarthurvr:
16:07.30arthurvrthis whole channel can help you :-)
16:07.36arthurvrStart with https://www.google-melange.com/
16:07.36new_intthanks a lot
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16:08.20new_inti have read that but  i still have a small but wierd doubt though
16:11.03arthurvrWhat’s not clear exactly?
16:11.28new_intdo people go abroad by this ?
16:11.34new_intby gsoc?
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16:14.02arthurvrYou mean if students apply to gsoc? Of course!
16:14.18gevaertshuh? No
16:15.07new_intis it if my application gets accepted?
16:15.34gevaertsgsoc work is done from wherever you are
16:16.11new_intbut some people go i think gevaerts
16:16.35gevaertsYou're free to think whatever you like :)
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16:17.32new_inti am in IIIT-H and some of my  seniors i know have gone for gsoc or no that i am not sure .eg denmark ,singapore
16:18.08new_intarthurvr says yes
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16:18.31arthurvrNo I think I’ve got your question wrong. sorry!
16:19.15new_intso when do they go arthurvr ?
16:19.48gevaertsI think some organisations may have paid for gsoc students to attend conferences, but that's as far as it goes
16:19.57gevaertsAnd that's definitely not common at all
16:20.35new_intso even if they clear gsoc like after getting the cold cash they do not go?
16:21.28gevaertsGo *where*?
16:21.36new_intgo abroad?
16:21.57gevaertsI'm sure some students have used part of their money to go on holiday...
16:22.31new_intoh lol i thought so ..
16:22.37new_intthanks though a lot
16:24.38new_intbye \
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17:21.57ecogikogreetings
17:22.11arthurvrgreetings ecogiko
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18:06.38ecogikoI have an idea for a project but I am not sure it's a solid project. Is it possible to talk with a mentor or somebody to whom I can explain the idea so that he can maybe tell me if it's viable or not.
18:06.45ecogikoIs that possible?
18:07.20def-Hi. I heard last year someone reviewed ideas pages. Is this happening this year too? If so, I'd appreciate comments on https://github.com/Araq/Nim/wiki/GSoC-2015-Ideas
18:07.27meflinyou would need to talk to the origination you would be working with
18:10.05meflindef-: carols is usually not here on weekends , looked ok to me when I skimed it
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19:02.34gage_hey, I some questions about becoming a mentoring organization for an ongoing open source project. any GSOC admins online?
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19:27.31gevaertsgage_: in general you're better off just asking those questions
19:27.48gevaertsPeople tend not to want to volunteer for answering unknown questions :)
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20:23.12Botanichey is there any way to pull an application from last year? We were going to use the text as a baseis for this year
20:25.33shachafLooks like it's https://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/org/survey_response/show/google/gsoc2014/yourorganization
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21:00.40yashPHey, I am new to GSCO can anyone help me out ?
21:00.47yashPGSOC**
21:01.44gage_I'm thinking of joining GSOC as a mentoring organization to further an ongoing open source project with a group of high school kids I work with. If I already have a specific group of kids and a specific project in mind, would that work for GSCO?
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21:03.20gage_hey yashP, I'm new to GSOC, too. also new to IRC :)
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21:05.40yashPhey gage, how you doing ? I am an undergraduate student from India and have worked on projects based on php, Python, c++, opengl
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21:07.09thiagogage_: no, that by itself is not a problem
21:07.22thiagobut you must consider all applicants, not those you already know
21:07.42thiagoone more thing: if you're not an already established organisation, it's unlikely you'll be selected
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21:08.52gevaertsgage_: by "high school kids", do you mean high school kids or former high school kids who are now at a higher level?
21:09.00gage_gotcha. google is super picky about organizations, then? I'm owner of a two-person web shop, so maybe that's too small for their criteria...
21:09.19gevaertsRemember that gsoc is for post-secondary students
21:09.38gage_by "high school kids", I mean a couple seniors headed to college. I'm aware of the age and college enrollment requirements
21:09.49gevaertsOK, that's fine then :)
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21:10.50gage_by "must consider", does that mean I can be extremely picky? i feel like this is may be sort of like those gov't positions that come open and are immediately closed because they are by law req'd to post positions, even though they already have a person in mind for the job
21:11.47gage_yashP: if you're curious, here's the project on my blog: http://www.harmonicnw.com/2014/06/fhs-app-now-app-store/
21:12.35gevaertsI'd recommend talking to carols directly about these things. I think you're in a bit of an atypical situation, which means us mere channel and gsoc regulars might not always know the right answer
21:12.38NikolaiToryzingage_: You can be super picky
21:13.10gage_gotcha. does carols check this IRC channel?
21:13.22gevaertsYes, but not during weekends :)
21:13.25NikolaiToryzinYes, but she's not here right now.
21:13.41NikolaiToryzinShe's here during magical office hours :P
21:13.56gevaertsCalifornia business hours is what you want
21:14.06NikolaiToryzinYou could also shoot her an email, carols@google.com
21:14.12gevaertsnods
21:14.28gage_fair enough. i am curious about the likelihood of my org being picked.. any more info/stories/rumors about that piece appreciated
21:14.31NikolaiToryzingevaerts: As a Californian I find that offensive, we work waaaay less then that
21:14.33gage_thanks for the contact info for carols
21:14.39thiagohow long have you been active?
21:14.46thiagocan we see your source code in your website?
21:14.52thiagohave you released a few releases?
21:15.08thiagohow many mentors can you line up?
21:15.16thiagothose are the kind of questions she'll have for you
21:15.22gevaertsNikolaiToryzin: yes, exactly! That's why I want California business hours! :)
21:16.10NikolaiToryzingevaerts: Heh, love it here :)
21:16.25gage_nice, thanks for those criteria, good to know.
21:17.20NikolaiToryzingage_: Basically you need to be able to show you're well established and capable of working with students who are supposed to work full time and have the people for it.
21:17.50gage_to answer: active 2+ years, git repo (one of them) at https://github.com/harmonicnw/fhsapp, yes multiple releases, 1-3 mentors
21:18.10thiagoso you have a chance
21:18.48gage_good to hear :)
21:20.19NikolaiToryzingage_: do you have projects that would take someone around 3 months to do working full time?
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21:20.45gage_I do. this project will probably be going on for quite a while
21:21.16NikolaiToryzinGood, you want to make sure you have a good solid list of proposals
21:21.52gage_by list, you mean items for a single project, or several different projects?
21:23.05NikolaiToryzinSeveral different projects
21:23.21NikolaiToryzinJust ideas for students to look at and think about proposals
21:25.24gage_Well, there's really only one I'm interested in mentoring for, so... :/
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21:28.41gage_thanks of the helpful info NikolaiToryzin and thiago!
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22:53.23def-Seems like adding a backup admin doesn't work. Anyone else experiencing this or know how it works?
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22:55.55ollydef-: i think that's for after your org is accepted
22:56.22ollyif you are, the person applying is an org admin, and can then invite others to be org admins too
22:56.58def-olly: on the main page it says we absolutely need a backup admin or we will be rejected
22:56.58ollyin some previous years, you specified a backup admin in the application, but not this year it seems
22:57.09ollyhmm "main page"?
22:57.15ollythat might be out of date help text
22:57.26def-I tried adding one, and he got the mail, but the link in the mail is not working
22:57.39ollyoh yes, on the front page
22:57.49ollydef-: has the backup admin created a profile?
22:57.58def-yes
23:00.05NikolaiToryzinYeah, I remember selecting a backup in the application
23:00.09ollyolly: I've not seen anyone else having issues, and I can't test it myself right now - I would suggest asking in #melange
23:00.30def-olly: alright, thanks
23:00.36NikolaiToryzinHow meta olly
23:00.36ollyISTR that you still had to add the backup manually despite giving one in the application
23:00.56ollyat least last time around
23:01.04ollymeta?
23:01.37NikolaiToryzinYou mentioned yourself
23:01.53ollyoh
23:02.16ollywell, nobody else listens to me
23:02.31NikolaiToryzinThat's hilariously sad, man
23:02.38ollypardon?
23:02.45ollyno wait, that doesn't work
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