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| 00:09.50 | gingerninja23 | Hi |
| 00:10.42 | gingerninja23 | When is the list of organisations going to be announced this year ? |
| 00:10.53 | DaSpirit | March 3rd I think? |
| 00:11.03 | thiago | !timeline |
| 00:11.03 | gsocbot | thiago: "timeline" is http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/events/google/gsoc2015 |
| 00:11.14 | gingerninja23 | Thanks ! |
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| 09:13.30 | leharb | I am currently in my second year of engineering. How can I get started with GSoc 2015? |
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| 10:59.17 | naveenvalecha | Hi |
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| 10:59.57 | naveenvalecha | Students doing distance learning are applicable for gsoc as they are from accrediated university ? |
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| 12:24.26 | kblin | naveenvalecha: I think so |
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| 12:25.18 | kblin | naveenvalecha: you might want to check the terms and conditions, but my understanding is that if an accredited university is happy to give you a document that you study there, you're eligible |
| 12:25.22 | kblin | !amieligible |
| 12:25.26 | kblin | hmm |
| 12:25.30 | kblin | !elibible |
| 12:25.32 | kblin | er |
| 12:25.38 | kblin | can't type today |
| 12:25.43 | kblin | !eligible |
| 12:25.44 | gsocbot | kblin: "eligible" is http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/document/show/gsoc_program/google/gsoc2013/help_page#1._Are_there_any_age_restrictions_on |
| 12:25.47 | naveenvalecha | kblin: okies Thaks |
| 12:25.49 | kblin | there we go |
| 12:26.34 | kblin | the URL is from 2013, but I don't think this rule changed |
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| 13:17.47 | leo42 | hello... so im a student and i want to get into the GSoC 2015 |
| 13:18.03 | leo42 | hopefully for the pithon foundetion |
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| 13:18.57 | leo42 | can anyone point me in the corect direction of things to study up on and peple i must talk to to get a head start ?? |
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| 13:31.27 | leo42 | foundation* |
| 13:32.08 | kblin | well, as a first step, talk to the community you want to interact with :) |
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| 13:42.58 | leo42 | thnx it was my first idea... il look up the proper protocol they use for comunication on ther website :) |
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| 14:12.46 | kblin | leo42: getting in touch with the community is the most important step before writing the application |
| 14:13.22 | kblin | at least in all the orgs I'm involved with :) |
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| 14:17.01 | leo42 | kblin: thnx :) i am alredy talking in the python room and studying up on python and CPython that i heard will need work... also found the mailing list of last year and going to read up on it later... :) |
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| 14:22.29 | kblin | leo42: sounds good |
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| 17:30.08 | carols | are all the org admins ready for applications? :-) |
| 17:30.14 | carols | i hope so :-) |
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| 17:31.49 | carols | !next |
| 17:31.50 | gsocbot | carols: "next" is December 1, 2014, 9:00 AM Pacific Time / 17:00 UTC: Contest opens for entries by student participants |
| 17:32.00 | carols | thatâs out of date. |
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| 17:34.13 | carols | !forget next |
| 17:34.13 | gsocbot | carols: The operation succeeded. |
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| 17:38.47 | raveesh | hello carols :) |
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| 17:38.53 | carols | hi raveesh |
| 17:39.03 | raveesh | May I know what CPT stands for ? |
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| 17:39.32 | carols | raveesh: curriculum practical training |
| 17:39.59 | raveesh | thanks :) |
| 17:40.02 | carols | cheers |
| 17:40.42 | raveesh | I haven't worked one out ever before, I'll try to write the required text and send it you, is that okay ? |
| 17:40.57 | carols | raveesh: um, iâm not sure what youâre talking about? |
| 17:41.05 | carols | and are you sure you want to be doing it in a logged irc channel? |
| 17:41.46 | aki237 | I'm new to gsoc please someone get me started |
| 17:42.15 | carols | aki237: sure, have you read the faq and the student manual? |
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| 17:43.02 | aki237 | ya |
| 17:43.19 | carols | aki237: great, so are there specific questions we can answer for you? |
| 17:44.35 | aki237 | Should we be in touch with the mentoring organisations before the students applications are open?? |
| 17:44.49 | carols | aki237: yes, i would recommend you volunteer for an open source organization |
| 17:45.00 | carols | it gets you great experience even if you donât apply for gsoc |
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| 17:46.25 | aki237 | How close should we be with the company?? Like Should we have contributed something to the company projects or like what ? Can you please explain |
| 17:46.54 | Niharika | !studentmanual | aki237 |
| 17:47.05 | Niharika | Weird. I thought that worked. |
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| 17:47.25 | Niharika | !studentguide |
| 17:47.25 | gsocbot | Niharika: "studentguide" is http://en.flossmanuals.net/GSoCStudentGuide/ |
| 17:47.33 | Niharika | Yep. ^ aki237 |
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| 17:47.47 | Niharika | Go through that properly please. |
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| 17:51.11 | carols | hi villan |
| 17:51.16 | zetsubouclown | hi |
| 17:51.30 | carols | hi zetsubouclown |
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| 17:51.53 | zetsubouclown | hi carols |
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| 17:51.57 | carols | :-) |
| 17:52.40 | aki237 | Niharika : Thanx for the link :) |
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| 18:02.20 | carols | serves some more tea and coffee |
| 18:02.23 | carols | busy in here today :-) |
| 18:02.31 | carols | new program, everyoneâs excited :-) |
| 18:02.48 | zetsubouclown | ? |
| 18:02.52 | kragniz | is excited |
| 18:03.11 | zetsubouclown | is too excited to understand anything |
| 18:03.13 | carols | kragniz: me too :-) |
| 18:03.59 | kragniz | I'm crossing my fingers the org I want to work with is accepted :) |
| 18:04.00 | cs_shadow | is hoping not to fall asleep until the org application opens (timezone differences) |
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| 18:04.40 | carols | cs_shadow: less than an hour to go :-) |
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| 18:06.20 | cs_shadow | carols: Yes, just past midnight here :) |
| 18:07.07 | carols | cs_shadow: well, i imagine it wonât be a very big deal when org apps open, since most orgs take their time in applying :-) |
| 18:07.17 | carols | so if you fell asleep i think you wouldnât miss a lot |
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| 18:08.31 | carols | cs_shadow: donât get sleep deprived on our account :-) |
| 18:08.43 | cs_shadow | carols: True but I just want to see if there any new questions in the application form |
| 18:08.55 | carols | cs_shadow: the application questions are already printed |
| 18:09.03 | cs_shadow | carols: I was just kidding. I don't sleep this early any way |
| 18:09.04 | carols | anyone can see them at any time |
| 18:09.11 | carols | okay :-) |
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| 18:10.25 | cs_shadow | carols: Okay, is there are link where I can see the questions for this time? |
| 18:10.55 | carols | cs_shadow: http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/document/show/gsoc_program/google/gsoc2015/help_page#2._What_should_a_mentoring_organization |
| 18:11.19 | carols | no surprises :-) |
| 18:11.22 | ujjwal | does organizations considers work done under other open source organization |
| 18:11.42 | carols | ujjwal: most do. but regardless, even if they donât, itâs just good experience to have |
| 18:11.45 | cs_shadow | carols: Oh, thanks. Seems no different from last year |
| 18:11.48 | carols | and can only help you, not hurt you |
| 18:11.52 | carols | cs_shadow: indeed |
| 18:12.34 | ujjwal | carols: thats for sure, open source contribution is great experience :) |
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| 18:12.40 | carols | ujjwal: i agree :-) |
| 18:14.33 | downey | carols: new program? |
| 18:14.54 | carols | downey: well, the program starting for this yearâ¦so ânewâ for the year :-) |
| 18:15.01 | downey | gsoc is always new :) |
| 18:15.09 | carols | being 11 years old i guess makes it not that new :-) |
| 18:15.22 | downey | i know i'm surprised each year |
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| 18:15.31 | carols | downey: surprised by what? |
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| 18:15.48 | yask | any interesting js/python/jquery organization? |
| 18:15.56 | downey | carols: oh, all kinds of things ... student talent, quality of proposals, number/scale of participants, etc |
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| 18:16.13 | carols | yask: did you search previous yearâs organization participants list by those tags? |
| 18:17.06 | carols | since orgs for this year havenât even applied yet we donât know whoâs going to be participating this year. |
| 18:17.51 | downey | yask: i'm "guilty" of encouraging at least 1 organization that i like (but am not involved with) to participate in gsoc, if only to get more contributors involved and make that project better :) |
| 18:18.22 | yask | downey: which one? |
| 18:18.42 | downey | yask: not important really ... but my point is that if you know of any cool orgs/projects, it's not too late to encourage them to apply :) |
| 18:18.56 | carols | downey: not only is it not too late, itâs just the right time! |
| 18:19.17 | downey | indeed :) |
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| 18:21.26 | gsoc230 | Hello, Wantedto clarify a few doubts on GSoc |
| 18:21.55 | yask | gsoc230: what doubts? |
| 18:22.15 | gsoc230 | Like to know the levels of expertise on Programming |
| 18:22.40 | gsoc230 | If I am to submit an application,as this is my first time here |
| 18:22.55 | blast007 | gsoc230: did you read the FAQ and the student guide? |
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| 18:23.36 | gsoc230 | Yes, I did, but was a little confused if my knowledge would be enough |
| 18:24.11 | downey | http://en.flossmanuals.net/GSoCStudentGuide/ch003_am-i-good-enough/ |
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| 18:24.13 | gsoc230 | Was a little nervous at that point |
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| 18:24.49 | downey | gsoc230: once they are announced, you'll find project ideas for people of all skill levels :) |
| 18:24.53 | gsoc230 | ThankYou Downey for the link |
| 18:25.16 | downey | gsoc230: no problem. :) |
| 18:25.32 | zetsubouclown | that's a nice link |
| 18:25.42 | gsoc230 | Indeed, This was very helpful |
| 18:25.43 | zetsubouclown | I feel better for some reason |
| 18:25.54 | panzone | the entire manual is great |
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| 18:26.13 | gsoc230 | Just uplifted my confidence |
| 18:26.14 | panzone | it really helped me last year |
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| 18:29.08 | gsoc230 | Just another question |
| 18:29.29 | carols | gsoc230: sure, how can we help? |
| 18:29.34 | gsoc230 | Is it allright if we submit the same aplication for two similar projects |
| 18:29.45 | carols | gsoc230: the same application? no. |
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| 18:29.57 | carols | gsoc230: you can submit an application to two different projects. |
| 18:30.06 | carols | but they have to be applications that are specific to each project. |
| 18:30.38 | gsoc230 | For example if I want to suggest a simulation technique for two projects that has game Engines |
| 18:30.58 | gsoc230 | Is it allright suggesting the same topic |
| 18:31.00 | carols | gsoc230: well, each organization is going to have different needs for student projects and different ideas pages. |
| 18:31.10 | yask | hey , so for instance I want to contribute (for gsoc ) to the idea listed here : `jQuery UI - interactions rewrite` https://github.com/jquery/jquery/wiki/Google-Summer-of-Code-2015---Ideas-List , how do i continue ? |
| 18:31.16 | carols | gsoc230: so no, again, itâs not okay to submit the same application to both projects. |
| 18:31.34 | somaen | Same general theme should be fine. |
| 18:31.41 | somaen | But not copy paste. |
| 18:32.19 | somaen | Especially, since the requirements from an application differ between projects, i.e. project X might require some details that project Y doesnt. |
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| 18:33.13 | somaen | Also, consider the likelihood of getting accepted if your application smells of boiler plate non-specific talk. |
| 18:33.30 | somaen | It's a bit like writing a job application once and sending it to all the companies you're interested in. |
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| 18:33.43 | gsoc230 | Now I got the picture, Thank You very much for helping me |
| 18:33.43 | downey | FYI: As an org admin, I immediately ignore/reject any "generic" or "copy/paste" applications that haven't either (a) responded specifically to a project on our ideas page, or (b) describe that they've already worked with one of our mentors on their proposed idea. |
| 18:33.45 | blast007 | you'd also want to discuss the idea with the project(s) regardless |
| 18:34.02 | downey | blast007: bingo :) |
| 18:34.28 | somaen | In general your likelihood of success skyrockets (from abyssmall to actually considerable) if you actually talk to the org. |
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| 18:35.05 | somaen | If an org sees an application from a student that has never been in contact with them, nor attempts to contact them after applying, then the chance of success is more or less 0. |
| 18:35.24 | gevaerts | me wonders... |
| 18:35.29 | downey | In fact, we don't even review proposals if the student hasn't already made at least 1 code contribution (just a bug or pull request, even if it's not merged) |
| 18:35.38 | somaen | Or atleast, it should be, since that'd be the equivalent of applying for a job, and not showing up at the job interview. |
| 18:35.56 | gsoc230 | The other question I have is in case my knowledge on a perticular area is less, Do you discourage in applying to such projects |
| 18:36.05 | gevaerts | I know that's true for orgs that are active in #gsoc, but how do we know there aren't some (probably new) orgs around that *do* accept students without any contact? |
| 18:36.14 | somaen | downey: We have a similar rule, however it's lax enough that if there is something in the pipeline it's followed up. |
| 18:36.30 | carols | gsoc230: you should ask the org that. itâs up to them what knowledge they want you to have and whatâs okay/whatâs not |
| 18:36.38 | somaen | Accepting does require a PR to be posted (although not merged). |
| 18:37.10 | somaen | gsoc230: In general, do you think you'd be able to actually follow through on your idea? |
| 18:37.13 | somaen | That goes a long way. |
| 18:37.22 | gevaerts | gsoc230: in general, many organisations use gsoc to attract new developers. New developers can't be expected to know everything |
| 18:37.48 | somaen | Especially, you aren't expected to intimately know the relevant code base. |
| 18:38.05 | gsoc230 | Thank You for all the advice |
| 18:38.20 | gsoc230 | The last question, How do I initiate a converation with the organisation |
| 18:38.25 | somaen | Which org? |
| 18:38.31 | gsoc230 | Is to through IRC or E mail |
| 18:38.36 | somaen | Most orgs have either a forum, mailing list or irc. |
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| 18:39.07 | somaen | So, step 1: Figure out where they hang out, if they have IRC, ask there. |
| 18:39.25 | yask | do we simply have to contribute to a project [on an idea proposed by mentors] or do we have to comeup with our own ideas? |
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| 18:39.30 | somaen | Step 2: If that turns out to be a dead irc-channel, (or well anyhow), poke their mailing list. |
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| 18:39.38 | somaen | yask: Depends on the org. |
| 18:39.52 | somaen | All orgs have a list of ideas, but you're also open to approach them with your own. |
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| 18:40.09 | somaen | If you do approach them with your own, then you should discuss that idea with them in good time before applying. |
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| 18:40.26 | somaen | Random undiscussed ideas fall under the "failure to communicate with the org" thing I talked about above. |
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| 18:40.46 | yask | so , like in this example in this link : https://github.com/jquery/jquery/wiki/Google-Summer-of-Code-2015---Ideas-List , they mention ideas ! Now if i find something interesting , how do i continue? |
| 18:40.54 | somaen | Talk to them |
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| 18:41.33 | somaen | Every single idea there has a name, and an irc channel listed |
| 18:41.56 | downey | yask: Once the ideas pages are finished (after 20 February) they should describe next steps and how to contact them, which as somaen says, you should do before submitting your application/proposal on the GSoC Melange site. |
| 18:42.24 | somaen | So, /join the relevant channel, and say "Hi, I want to work on idea X in GSoC this year, is [Insert mentors name] around?" |
| 18:42.24 | gsoc230 | Thank You very much for all the assistance given to me |
| 18:42.32 | yask | yea , but since we haven't fixed any of the bugs or contributed , how do they select students? |
| 18:42.37 | gsoc230 | All of you allwerevery helpful |
| 18:42.42 | yask | since it's just an idea? |
| 18:42.45 | somaen | yask: Step 1: Talk to them |
| 18:42.49 | gsoc230 | Thank YOu Once Again |
| 18:43.01 | somaen | Step 2: They'll answer you. |
| 18:43.09 | somaen | Step 3: You'll discuss your idea with them |
| 18:43.21 | somaen | Step 4: You'll end up with an application for them. |
| 18:43.32 | yask | somaen: alright! thannks a lot!! \o/ got it ! |
| 18:43.34 | somaen | Step 3.5: Any interrim requirements that they might tell you about, i.e. fixing a trivial bug. |
| 18:44.07 | somaen | Step 5: In a few months, they look at the applications, and decide who they take on, depending on a number of criteria I don't know about. |
| 18:44.24 | somaen | Might be anything from phase of the moon, to details in your application. |
| 18:44.34 | yask | that was very helpful! thanks! :) |
| 18:44.42 | carols | somaen: i certainly hope itâs not phase of the moon. |
| 18:44.51 | somaen | But in general, each org only can take on a certain number of students, so not everyone gets in, even if they have great proposals. |
| 18:44.53 | carols | iâd like to hear about it if thatâs a criteria a mentoring org is using. |
| 18:45.00 | somaen | carols: as a tie breaker. |
| 18:45.00 | panzone | in any case yask, seriously, the most important thing is comunication |
| 18:45.14 | carols | somaen: :-) |
| 18:45.25 | somaen | Although, to be fair, actually opening an IRC window and speaking to both students would be a better tie breaker. |
| 18:45.34 | yask | i hope it's not too late to start communicating now ? |
| 18:45.41 | somaen | What panzone said is basically the answer to everything. |
| 18:45.44 | somaen | yask: Not at all |
| 18:45.51 | panzone | don't worry yask |
| 18:45.53 | somaen | The orgs that are accepted by google havent even been announced |
| 18:46.02 | SirCmpwn | 15 mins get hype |
| 18:46.03 | somaen | Heh, they haven't even applied. |
| 18:46.18 | gevaerts | carols: it might be an astronomy-related org, with being able to work out the phase of the moon as a filter criterion |
| 18:46.20 | panzone | but don't wait the announcement |
| 18:46.23 | somaen | Since the period where the orgs apply to google is right about this time of year. |
| 18:46.26 | carols | gevaerts: right :-) |
| 18:46.35 | SirCmpwn | the period where orgs apply to google is 15 minutes from now |
| 18:46.37 | SirCmpwn | 14, actually |
| 18:46.52 | somaen | yask: You should be quite allright for timing, it's lots of time left still. |
| 18:47.01 | somaen | But by all means, ask them NOW. |
| 18:47.18 | SirCmpwn | hi carols, are you the carol that's been all over the ML? |
| 18:47.25 | panzone | it requires a lot of time for write a good proposal |
| 18:47.30 | panzone | A LOT |
| 18:47.38 | downey | !next |
| 18:47.40 | gsocbot | downey: Error: No factoid matches that key. |
| 18:47.40 | somaen | SirCmpwn: No, that's the ML-carls, this is the tea and coffee carols. |
| 18:47.46 | carols | SirCmpwn: depends on which mailing list you mean, but yes, i answer GSoC questions a lot on the gsoc mailing lists. |
| 18:47.51 | panzone | and you can't write it without discussing with the orgs |
| 18:47.53 | downey | hmm, no more next command? :P |
| 18:48.02 | somaen | Same person, different window on computer. |
| 18:48.04 | SirCmpwn | carols: that's the one I meant, o/ |
| 18:48.10 | carols | great |
| 18:48.14 | SirCmpwn | a good 10% of my emails lately have had your name in the from line |
| 18:48.46 | somaen | Must not be receiving that much mail overall then? |
| 18:49.02 | SirCmpwn | I filter most of my mail away but haven't made a GSoC filter yet |
| 18:49.31 | somaen | During the first week of GSoC you'll want digest on the mailing list. |
| 18:49.43 | SirCmpwn | or quit being lazy and filter it, perhaps |
| 18:49.56 | somaen | I had push mail, and no digest on the year I was a student, and the volume is insane. |
| 18:50.25 | SirCmpwn | I'm subscribed to linux-kernel :) |
| 18:50.43 | somaen | (Which is to be expected when 1000+ people are on the same list, and there is one milestone around) |
| 18:51.00 | kragniz | SirCmpwn: you madman |
| 18:51.06 | SirCmpwn | I have an archiving fetish |
| 18:51.20 | SirCmpwn | gotta fill up those disks |
| 18:51.39 | somaen | I fill up Google's disks with that. |
| 18:52.09 | somaen | Although, I guess my gmail account barely makes a dent. |
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| 18:53.02 | gevaerts | somaen: base64 /dev/sda | mail <you>@gmail.com should fix that |
| 18:53.31 | somaen | carols: Is it ok to expand the Ideas page at any point during the student application period? |
| 18:54.01 | carols | somaen: sure. but that assumes your ideas page is already of a high enough quality for your org to be accepted in the first place |
| 18:54.05 | carols | so focus on that |
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| 18:55.37 | somaen | Yeah of course. |
| 18:56.02 | somaen | But you never know when you come up with another good one. |
| 18:56.07 | somaen | So, just wanted to check. |
| 18:56.49 | somaen | For instance, a student could come up with an idea in conversation that he/she wasn't actually interested in, but was of interest to the project. |
| 18:57.18 | gevaerts | I think adding ideas over time is fairly common |
| 18:58.06 | gevaerts | The opposite case is much more awkward, really. What if you get a big properly implemented patch for one of your ideas during the student application period? |
| 18:58.38 | somaen | Oh I've thought of that a time or two. |
| 18:58.58 | somaen | There are ideas on the ideas page that I've been itching to do work on myself. |
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| 18:59.22 | somaen | And then there might be stuff that becomes a moot point, because of other patches that obsoletes it. |
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| 19:00.03 | downey | Happy GSoC, everyone! *makes tea* |
| 19:00.13 | somaen | Personally, I usually ask the students to add stretch-goals, for the case where there suddenly is time left over, so that that case can be handled if it happens DURING GSoC. |
| 19:00.13 | carols | downey: yay! |
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| 19:00.33 | *** topic/#gsoc by carols -> Google Summer of Code organization applications are now being accepted! The deadline is 20 Feb at 19:00 UTC: http://goo.gl/MUATWR | For more information about GSoC please visit google-melange.com. |
| 19:00.36 | carols | !learn next as GSoC org apps are now being accepted. They close on 20 Feb at 19:00 UTC: goo.gl/MUATWR |
| 19:00.37 | gsocbot | carols: "next" is GSoC org apps are now being accepted. They close on 20 Feb at 19:00 UTC: goo.gl/MUATWR |
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| 19:01.41 | somaen | Worst case though, if the students proposed task ends up being fixed randomly by some outside contributor, there is always the option of renegotiating the proposal. |
| 19:01.58 | somaen | Since afaik, the proposal is allowed to be modified during the coding period, if mentor and student agrees. |
| 19:02.31 | SirCmpwn | carols: can you put an http:// in there |
| 19:03.59 | carols | !forget next |
| 19:03.59 | gsocbot | carols: The operation succeeded. |
| 19:04.11 | carols | !learn next as GSoC org apps are now being accepted. They close on 20 Feb at 19:00 UTC: http://goo.gl/MUATWR |
| 19:04.12 | gsocbot | carols: "next" is GSoC org apps are now being accepted. They close on 20 Feb at 19:00 UTC: http://goo.gl/MUATWR |
| 19:04.15 | SirCmpwn | thanks :) |
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| 19:08.20 | downey | imagines hundreds of org admins rapidly fillling out their applications as we speak |
| 19:08.28 | carols | downey: i hope so :-) |
| 19:08.32 | carols | as opposed to on feb 20 |
| 19:08.48 | downey | is already done, not sure what takes people so long :) |
| 19:08.59 | carols | downey: didnât run into any problems? |
| 19:09.03 | carols | thatâs good |
| 19:09.07 | downey | no, quite smooth this year |
| 19:09.11 | carols | excellent |
| 19:09.14 | carols | thatâs the way i like it |
| 19:09.19 | downey | well, there was one problem, i didn't scroll all the way down the T&C :) |
| 19:09.29 | carols | downey: lawyers wanted that one :-) |
| 19:09.48 | kragniz | downey: what project are you representing? |
| 19:09.49 | downey | fair enough |
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| 19:10.54 | SirCmpwn | I'm giving our project page a little housekeeping before submitting |
| 19:11.33 | kragniz | SirCmpwn: is that tox? |
| 19:11.41 | SirCmpwn | my project? No, not tox |
| 19:11.42 | kragniz | I think I've seen your name around there |
| 19:11.51 | SirCmpwn | http://www.knightos.org |
| 19:12.35 | kragniz | looks cool! |
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| 19:12.41 | downey | "Submitting" is more like "save draft" until feb 20 |
| 19:12.46 | SirCmpwn | thanks kragniz! |
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| 19:21.27 | kragniz | I am too excite about this :( |
| 19:21.33 | kragniz | you can tell it's my first year |
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| 19:22.46 | SirCmpwn | what kind of tags should I put in? |
| 19:22.55 | SirCmpwn | are these like programming languages, platforms, what? |
| 19:23.04 | carols | SirCmpwn: whateverâs appropriate |
| 19:23.09 | carols | anything you want |
| 19:23.21 | SirCmpwn | "assembly,c,python,embedded,calculators,compilers" |
| 19:23.28 | carols | SirCmpwn: lgtm |
| 19:23.32 | SirCmpwn | ty |
| 19:25.16 | somaen | SirCmpwn: Anything you'd think students would want to find you by. |
| 19:25.29 | SirCmpwn | thanks, that's a good way of putting it |
| 19:25.59 | somaen | If for instance you are a CMS without CMS in your name, then putting cms in the tags list is usefull. |
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| 19:27.06 | somaen | If on the other hand, you are the linux kernel, it'd be a tad weird to put tux there, but wrong to put tuxracer there. |
| 19:27.19 | SirCmpwn | I should put in kernel |
| 19:27.26 | SirCmpwn | good call |
| 19:28.34 | somaen | And of course, the relevant programming languages are usefull, as students are likely to filter by stuff they know. |
| 19:28.50 | SirCmpwn | wonders how many people are going to filter by "assembly" |
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| 19:29.28 | somaen | > 1 |
| 19:29.38 | downey | The more tags the better. :-) |
| 19:29.47 | downey | ... as long as they're relevant, of course |
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| 19:29.59 | somaen | Although, if it's not arm/x86 assembly, then the chances are slimmer |
| 19:30.21 | SirCmpwn | it's not, but if you know one then you almost know them all |
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| 19:31.11 | somaen | Or atleast is closer to able to pick up any one. |
| 19:32.01 | SirCmpwn | carols: uppercase letters are not permitted in the org ID, but it doesn't say so |
| 19:32.09 | carols | SirCmpwn: please file a bug |
| 19:32.14 | SirCmpwn | where? |
| 19:32.21 | SirCmpwn | !bugs |
| 19:32.21 | gsocbot | SirCmpwn: "bugs" is https://code.google.com/p/soc/issues/list |
| 19:33.06 | SirCmpwn | >If you chose "new" in the downdown above, have you applied in the past? If so, for what year(s)? |
| 19:33.13 | SirCmpwn | there is no downdown, or dropdown, for that matter |
| 19:33.15 | SirCmpwn | another bug |
| 19:33.33 | downey | SirCmpwn: wasn't it a checkbox on the previous page? |
| 19:33.43 | downey | "Veteran" check box |
| 19:33.44 | SirCmpwn | there was a checkbox for veterans |
| 19:33.51 | SirCmpwn | I assume that was what it refers to |
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| 19:36.11 | SirCmpwn | that's an awfully involved bug report form |
| 19:38.11 | downey | s/involved/complete/ :-) |
| 19:38.55 | SirCmpwn | "the text is wrong at this page" is probably sufficient for this particular bug report :P |
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| 19:49.24 | carols | serves some cookies to go with the tea |
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| 19:50.12 | SirCmpwn | application submitted :D |
| 19:50.46 | carols | SirCmpwn: congrats |
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| 19:50.59 | SirCmpwn | ^.^ |
| 19:52.12 | downey | carols: have you hit 500 orgs yet? :-P |
| 19:52.19 | carols | downey: not quite yet :-0 |
| 19:52.21 | carols | :-) |
| 19:52.41 | downey | boo |
| 19:52.51 | carols | i know, theyâre probably waiting until the last minute |
| 19:55.15 | kragniz | how many have submitted so far? |
| 19:56.10 | carols | kragniz: we donât release that data until after weâve announced accepted orgs |
| 19:56.16 | carols | we only announce how many total orgs applied |
| 19:57.00 | kragniz | ah, sorry |
| 19:57.08 | carols | no problem |
| 19:57.23 | carols | itâs not really useful information anyway :-) |
| 19:57.40 | carols | since when an org applied has no bearing on acceptance, assuming of course they get the application in before the deadline :-) |
| 19:57.53 | carols | missing the deadline is automatic rejection |
| 19:58.33 | kragniz | I was just curious :P |
| 19:58.52 | carols | sure :-) |
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| 20:02.17 | SirCmpwn | I would guess that by this point it measures in dozens at best |
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| 20:05.29 | sumedhghaisas | carols: Hello... I am trying to register as org for the first time and have loads of questions. The org name is Manak-org. Can you please take a look at my ideas page and tell me if its okay?? |
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| 20:06.15 | carols | sumedhghaisas: have you already read the mentor/org admin manual? |
| 20:06.24 | carols | and looked at the sample ideas pages? |
| 20:06.32 | carols | because those all give guidelines for you |
| 20:07.35 | sumedhghaisas | carols: Yes.. I have gone through them. I just wanted your your view on it if its okay. |
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| 20:09.25 | carols | sumedhghaisas: if youâve followed the guidelines from the manual already, then sure, iâm happy to take a look. but i wonât make any judgement calls on if itâs âokayâ or not, since that would imply quality of application, which i donât do |
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| 20:11.43 | sumedhghaisas | carols: Yes sure... the link too the project is https://github.com/Manak-org/Manak and link to the ideas page is https://github.com/Manak-org/Manak/wiki/Google-Summer-of-Code-2015---Ideas-Page |
| 20:12.07 | carols | well, first issue with your ideas page: you havenât listed any potential mentors |
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| 20:12.17 | Guest28 | Hello, everyone! |
| 20:12.21 | carols | hi Guest28 |
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| 20:14.12 | sumedhghaisas | carols: ohh I am very sorry, I will get right to it. Is the number and difficulty ratio satisfactory?? I was really worried about that. |
| 20:14.49 | sumedhghaisas | I was planning for 2 mentors if it helps... |
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| 20:16.13 | carols | sumedhghaisas: sure, looks satisfactory, itâs just missing a big component of information right now |
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| 20:17.11 | gvsi | hi there! |
| 20:17.15 | carols | hi gvsi |
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| 20:17.48 | gvsi | hi carols :) |
| 20:18.12 | carols | :-) |
| 20:18.19 | sumedhghaisas | carols: I will make the appropriate changes right away. |
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| 20:31.47 | NikolaiToryzin | carols: Still looking at proposal pages early? :) |
| 20:32.01 | carols | NikolaiToryzin: proposals? |
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| 20:32.05 | carols | you mean student proposals? |
| 20:32.11 | carols | i donât look at any of those |
| 20:32.16 | NikolaiToryzin | Nooo, like the ideas list page |
| 20:32.24 | NikolaiToryzin | Mixed up my words for a moment |
| 20:32.34 | carols | NikolaiToryzin: sure, i can look. |
| 20:32.49 | NikolaiToryzin | Good to hear, I'll bug you later then |
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| 20:51.57 | carols | !next |
| 20:52.00 | gsocbot | carols: "next" is GSoC org apps are now being accepted. They close on 20 Feb at 19:00 UTC: http://goo.gl/MUATWR |
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| 20:56.48 | downey | carols: i have a gsoc question |
| 20:56.53 | carols | downey: sure |
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| 20:57.54 | downey | carols: can Org X propose and mentor a project to, e.g., "implement foobar feature in Org Y's project", where foobar is something that Org X needs as part of its upstream software? |
| 20:58.15 | carols | downey: only if org x is serving as an umbrella for org y |
| 20:58.24 | h0ttc4rl | Hello, I started a gsoc mentoring organization profile today by accident. I want to delete it so I can take part as a student later in the year |
| 20:58.29 | downey | carols: drats, ok :) |
| 20:58.43 | carols | h0ttc4rl: please email the melange folks and they can delete it for you |
| 20:59.00 | h0ttc4rl | excellent, Carlos. How do I find their email address? |
| 20:59.15 | h0ttc4rl | I looked on the contact form at the gsoc site but it directed me here |
| 20:59.53 | carols | h0ttc4rl: itâs carols and itâs melange-soc-dev@googlegroups.com |
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| 21:00.15 | h0ttc4rl | ok, thanks carols |
| 21:00.20 | carols | cheers |
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| 21:01.12 | downey | makes some tea to get his mind off melange data issues |
| 21:01.49 | carols | downey: good idea :-) |
| 21:02.56 | downey | actually i think i'll give up tea ... there's a new "artisan distillery" right outside my coworking window |
| 21:06.36 | carols | downey: that sounds fun |
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| 21:07.56 | downey | heh |
| 21:08.12 | downey | that's why the art scene in this neighborhood has been declining |
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| 22:05.12 | downey | goes of to distill some art, cheers |
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| 23:38.35 | valindo | Hey, I have a few questions, anyone around? |
| 23:39.08 | terri | valindo: lots of folk are around: ask away! |
| 23:39.11 | carols | valindo: sure im here |
| 23:39.59 | valindo | Awesome!, When do students apply ? and how the whole process works, bear with me please, I am totally new to this and I really wanna participate |
| 23:40.30 | carols | valindo: have you read the FAQs and the student manual yet? |
| 23:40.34 | carols | thatâs really the place to start |
| 23:41.03 | carols | valindo: as for when students apply thats on the timeline: http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/events/google/gsoc2015 |
| 23:41.12 | valindo | I have read it, kinda got it. Just Nervous I might miss something |
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| 23:41.31 | carols | valindo: okay, well, do you have a specific question(s) we can answer? |
| 23:41.59 | valindo | How's the whole application process like? (really sorry for the trouble) |
| 23:42.26 | carols | valindo: http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/document/show/gsoc_program/google/gsoc2015/help_page#4._How_does_a_student_apply |
| 23:42.41 | carols | valindo: http://en.flossmanuals.net/GSoCStudentGuide/ch008_writing-a-proposal/ |
| 23:42.48 | carols | itâs all there, you just have to read it through |
| 23:44.06 | valindo | Thanks a lot, I'll read through thoroughly , Thanks a lot once again and sorry for the trouble :D |
| 23:44.16 | carols | valindo: itâs no trouble, youâre welcome |
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| 23:44.28 | carols | youâre welcome to ask questions, just make sure youâve read the resources first |
| 23:44.45 | carols | we took the time to write them, they include pretty much all the questions weâve ever been asked before |
| 23:45.08 | valindo | Alright, I will read through thoroughly :) |
| 23:45.12 | carols | great :-) |
| 23:45.14 | carols | good luck! |
| 23:45.51 | tbone | is it possible to be a program administrator for your organization (no mentoring) and partake as a student on a project in a different organization? |
| 23:46.01 | carols | tbone: no |
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| 23:52.49 | gvsi | Hi there, student here: |
| 23:52.54 | carols | gvsi: hi there |
| 23:52.54 | gvsi | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:52.59 | gvsi | What's the proportion of students in my same situation who got to be part of GSoC in previous years? Thanks :) |
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| 23:53.35 | carols | gvsi: i donât know any proportions; we donât poll the applicants about how much OS knowledge they have before they apply |
| 23:53.54 | carols | gvsi: having said that, maybe this answers your question? http://en.flossmanuals.net/GSoCStudentGuide/ch003_am-i-good-enough/ |
| 23:54.32 | gvsi | That's great, carols, thanks. I'll check that out! |
| 23:54.36 | carols | ye |
| 23:54.37 | carols | yw |
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