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| 01:59.27 | Vino | hi |
| 01:59.54 | Vino | I am a open source developer working in a company |
| 02:00.33 | Vino | and would like to join in the google open source team... Could you tell me the procedure please? |
| 02:02.54 | Vino | anyone is there? |
| 02:05.09 | olly | Vino: if you're asking about gsoc, you need to be a student for that |
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| 02:06.41 | Vino | is there any other option to join in any team for coding remotely in google like mozilla? |
| 02:11.55 | Vino | Id like get the google meetups,update,events, coding groups which are happening in near my areas, so that I can go and join and like to participate as well... |
| 02:15.14 | Vino | anyone can help me? |
| 02:18.59 | olly | Vino: I don't know, but this channel is about gsoc and gci so really isn't the place to ask |
| 02:24.45 | Vino | ok thans |
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| 04:13.22 | mavihs | Hello world! |
| 04:13.58 | perway | Hello mavihs! |
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| 04:33.02 | mavihs | perway: What's up? |
| 04:34.38 | perway | Not much, mavihs |
| 04:34.42 | perway | Trying to win the contest :) |
| 04:34.48 | perway | And learning a bunch doing it |
| 04:35.41 | mavihs | perway: All the best. Btw what contest? |
| 04:36.03 | YashM | Code-In |
| 04:36.11 | perway | Yep, GCI |
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| 06:38.27 | amartya | Hi people |
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| 07:23.57 | raptor | Yesterday I upload all forms , please thaw my account |
| 07:24.11 | raptor | raptor |
| 07:24.19 | raptor | ralpt3748752_qejwhe |
| 07:24.36 | raptor | mail - sidor553@gmail.com |
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| 15:58.28 | sumanah | Hi soul_less_! |
| 15:58.35 | soul_less_ | hello sumanah |
| 15:58.38 | sumanah | so I'm going to give you a bit of feedback on your email https://mail.python.org/pipermail/mailman-developers/2015-January/024156.html |
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| 15:59.02 | sumanah | this is going to overlap with advice from http://en.flossmanuals.net/GSoCStudentGuide/ch006_making-first-contact/ |
| 15:59.09 | sumanah | and http://blog.melchua.com/2013/06/19/hacker-school-introducing-yourself-to-unfamiliar-open-source-projects/ |
| 15:59.36 | sumanah | so overall I think your email was good! You said what you were interested in, you showed genuine enthusiasm for the project, and you asked a specific question |
| 16:00.20 | sumanah | soul_less_: given the responsiveness we have seen on the Mailman list, I expect you will get a reply! |
| 16:00.33 | sumanah | and now, a few small bug reports :) so you can improve for next time. |
| 16:00.56 | sumanah | One: when you are talking about specific GSoC project ideas, it's nice to give hyperlinks |
| 16:02.36 | sumanah | soul_less_: when you say "I saw two project ideas for GSoC 2014" and then name them, it can be a bit tedious for someone to look those up -- if you make their life easier by providing links, then it's easier for them to respond quickly |
| 16:03.21 | sumanah | soul_less_: does that make sense? maybe you had a constraint I don't know about |
| 16:03.51 | soul_less_ | well the projects as far as i saw were not links |
| 16:04.05 | soul_less_ | but i guess i could link the general project page |
| 16:04.08 | soul_less_ | so that's one |
| 16:04.24 | sumanah | I see http://wiki.list.org/display/DEV/Google+Summer+of+Code+2014 ..... right? |
| 16:05.14 | sumanah | soul_less_: basically there is some kind of web address where you saw those ideas, right? whether it was in the wiki, the bug tracker, or someplace else, right? |
| 16:07.21 | soul_less_ | yes |
| 16:07.25 | soul_less_ | it was the link above |
| 16:08.06 | sumanah | right. And there were anchor tags in there, to help point to specific ideas |
| 16:08.46 | sumanah | soul_less_: actually you know what I just saw on that page? |
| 16:08.52 | sumanah | In the "Getting Started" section: |
| 16:08.53 | sumanah | "Development work on Mailman 2.1 has been frozen for some time, so all new project ideas should be related to Mailman 3." |
| 16:09.15 | soul_less_ | yes,that's true |
| 16:09.26 | soul_less_ | it's the one line that get's you |
| 16:09.39 | sumanah | sorry, I don't understand, what do you mean? |
| 16:10.15 | soul_less_ | well i've read all the links above trying to understand about GSoC and mailman |
| 16:10.19 | soul_less_ | and skiped the one i asked about |
| 16:10.39 | sumanah | ah I understand :) |
| 16:11.41 | sumanah | ok soul_less_ so, going back to your email. Did you run it through a grammar checker before you sent it? |
| 16:11.54 | sumanah | "Since this summer i have been" -- "i" should be capitalized as "I" |
| 16:12.05 | sumanah | "programming skills,learn code" -- there should be a space after the comma |
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| 16:12.16 | sumanah | "project.In detail" -- needs a space after the period |
| 16:12.59 | sumanah | and you should capitalize Mailman whenever you refer to it in English (unless you are quoting something from the command line, or something like that) |
| 16:13.43 | sumanah | you would say "Is this for Mailman 2 or 3?" but "I have the wrong permissions in /mailman/" |
| 16:14.22 | soul_less_ | okay |
| 16:14.59 | sumanah | soul_less_: does that help? |
| 16:15.01 | soul_less_ | spell checking and capitalizing the project name then |
| 16:15.08 | soul_less_ | yes very much, thank you |
| 16:15.12 | sumanah | Great :) |
| 16:15.30 | sumanah | "irc" is capitalized as "IRC" (it is an acronym meaning Internet Relay Chat) |
| 16:16.15 | sumanah | Hope this helps, soul_less_! It will get easier with practice. |
| 16:16.41 | sumanah | If I were you, I would reply to my own email and say something like: |
| 16:16.48 | meflin_ | language lessons aren't exactly on topic on this irc channel |
| 16:16.57 | sumanah | meflin_: Oh? they have been in the past. |
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| 16:17.49 | gevaerts | thinks they're an edge case |
| 16:17.53 | sumanah | Anyway "I just reread http://wiki.list.org/display/DEV/Google+Summer+of+Code+2014 and saw that all of the ideas are for Mailman 3 -- would still love more guidance on whether either of these two have been implemented." |
| 16:17.58 | sumanah | soul_less_: ^ |
| 16:19.32 | soul_less_ | okat sumanah, i'll try and write a second one and try and correct the mistakes from the first one |
| 16:19.59 | sumanah | soul_less_: :) feel free to ask me to look at a draft before you send. |
| 16:20.04 | sumanah | and happy hacking |
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| 17:26.41 | stan88 | Is it ok to submit my forms after completing the first task (in 24 hours for example) ? |
| 17:27.27 | perway | stan88, I believe it si |
| 17:27.29 | perway | *is |
| 17:27.31 | perway | that's what I did |
| 17:27.35 | Anshoe | stan88, yeah, But I suggest you do that immediately |
| 17:28.06 | Anshoe | Because there is a time limit in which you have to submit it after you do ur first task |
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| 17:28.47 | stan88 | I have already done that ( I am asking just in case) |
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| 18:20.43 | s0h3ck_ | --> Info : Two students need a mentor for GSoC here <-- |
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| 18:23.09 | meflin | hmm? |
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| 18:24.48 | Donavan | yeap |
| 18:25.55 | umccullough | wut |
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| 18:32.41 | Donavan | is there any possibility that a mentor would like to work with us for GSoC with one or more of these programming languages (C/C++, python, asm, JavaScript, Java) ? |
| 18:33.38 | meflin | you should find a project your are interested in and start working with that project |
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| 18:34.51 | Donavan | When i got my project were do i should go ? |
| 18:35.18 | olly | Donavan: you probably want to read up on how gsoc works |
| 18:35.27 | meflin | by project I mean an open source organization |
| 18:35.42 | s0h3ck_ | We read the FAQ ^^ |
| 18:36.30 | umccullough | maybe read the student guidelines |
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| 18:37.08 | umccullough | !studentguide |
| 18:37.09 | gsocbot | umccullough: "studentguide" is http://en.flossmanuals.net/GSoCStudentGuide/ |
| 18:37.11 | s0h3ck_ | What I don't really understand is : does the mentor joins our project that we choose or is something else ? |
| 18:37.20 | umccullough | the project is your mentor |
| 18:37.31 | umccullough | or, they provide your mentors anyway |
| 18:38.03 | umccullough | assuming you mean project as organization |
| 18:38.44 | s0h3ck_ | Oh, thanks. I'll look in detail with my friend what is going on. =) |
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| 19:02.53 | s0h3ck_ | Ok, well we realized that the student guide has the same idea as it's written in the FAQ. Here is what we understand : first, we search and find an open source organization project, second, we submit it somewhere (where ?), third if it's an acceptable project, he'll be announced and we will get mentors grab to it. Can you please complete the missing understanding. Thanks. |
| 19:04.41 | umccullough | each organization will accept a small number of proposals for which they will assign mentors to you |
| 19:04.45 | chris_hd | s0h3ck_: the "where ?" depends on the project you grab. Usually they have a gsoc mailing list and/or irc channel. |
| 19:05.19 | umccullough | you can't officially submit proposals until the proposal period is open - but you can engage with your organization of choice now and begin workign with them and developing some proposed ideas |
| 19:05.50 | gevaerts | Also, note that gsoc is for individual students, not for teams |
| 19:06.08 | umccullough | it is recommended that you get involved with the organization you wish to work with asap so you can become familiar with it and the code base |
| 19:06.23 | umccullough | and their community |
| 19:06.54 | umccullough | almost everything you do is specific to the organization you're working with - google doesn't really do much other than facilitate the process |
| 19:07.22 | umccullough | so beyond that, we really can't provide much direct assistance |
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| 19:10.20 | s0h3ck_ | So if (I'll use an example) I find Mozilla that works on a particular open source projet, we send that "gsoc mailing list/or irc channel" to google ? |
| 19:10.50 | umccullough | no, you can only work with organization that sign up to be part of gsoc, and are then selected as mentoring organizations |
| 19:11.00 | umccullough | you can of course ask an organization to sign up |
| 19:11.30 | umccullough | this still doesn't guarantee that your proposal will be accepted by that organization, as they may have many proposals submitted during the student sign up period |
| 19:12.10 | umccullough | as a student, you do not sign up on behalf of the organization - they must do this first on their own |
| 19:12.14 | blast007 | s0h3ck_: open source organizations will submit applications to Google. Google will accept a certain number of organizations into GSoC. Each organization will provide a list of possible ideas (things to work on). You could choose to apply to work on one of those ideas, or something else. |
| 19:12.35 | umccullough | each organization is given a certain number of "student slots" |
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| 19:12.47 | umccullough | they can accept up to that many student proposals |
| 19:12.58 | blast007 | In any case, getting involved with one or more open source organizations now would benefit you. |
| 19:13.04 | s0h3ck_ | blast007: Perfect! |
| 19:13.19 | umccullough | it's the organization you will be working with... i suggest choosing an organization that historically participates |
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| 19:13.33 | umccullough | or wait until the list of accepted orgs is released |
| 19:14.45 | umccullough | it might become more clear if you look at the timeline |
| 19:15.01 | s0h3ck_ | Thanks for your time. I understand :) |
| 19:15.10 | umccullough | http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/events/google/gsoc2015 |
| 19:15.13 | s0h3ck_ | umccullough: Thanks for the tips =) |
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| 19:17.23 | Donavan | It's more clearly now :) Thank you :) |
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| 19:54.19 | stan88 | Can it be more clarified what lttoolbox-style entry is ? (task : https://www.google-melange.com/gci/task/view/google/gci2014/5004298089922560 ) |
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| 19:57.32 | sttaylor | stan88: you should reach out to the Apertium team on their IRC channel: #apertium at irc.freenode.net. |
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| 20:01.01 | stan88 | Oh... O thought that this was apertium channel (i have 2 rooms opened, sorry) |
| 20:01.10 | sttaylor | stan88: no problem : ) |
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| 20:17.15 | s0h3ck_ | I was wondering what is going to happen if per example two persons are interested for a same project, because when I check the accepted projects in 2014 GSoC, it's always one student with one or more mentors. So, is there any possibility of one or more students on a same project? |
| 20:19.17 | gevaerts | No. One student per project |
| 20:19.47 | s0h3ck_ | Ok. Thanks :) |
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| 20:20.23 | gevaerts | There can technically be several students working on the same thing independently, but that's not a usual thing, and I'm not sure it ever happened at all |
| 20:28.34 | s0h3ck_ | Another question : does the candidate would be rejected if the person cannot be present the last week of may and the first of June ? |
| 20:29.00 | terri | I had one year where our top students applied for the same project, and we worked with them to divide the project into two pieces and add some of their backup ideas to fill them out. it actually worked pretty well. |
| 20:29.33 | gevaerts | s0h3ck_: most organisations are happy to work out a solution for scheduling issues. Make sure not to try to hide them though |
| 20:31.28 | s0h3ck_ | gevaerts: yes, of course. :) |
| 20:34.06 | MatthewWilkes | gevaerts: It certainly happens. Usually the scope is expanded and they work on independent bits, though, as it's disheartening to compete with someone directly |
| 20:34.35 | gevaerts | MatthewWilkes: yes, well, if you change both projects they're not the same any more :) |
| 20:34.42 | gevaerts | will wriggle until he's right! |
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