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| 01:22.11 | downey | didn't get in to the mobile UI :) |
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| 01:52.17 | downey | good point, will try that as soon as i get lollipop set up |
| 01:53.12 | Robert_S | downey: or, in a normal browser you might get it, and then you can make your window narrow. You can tell the difference because the version number is longer than normal. |
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| 07:32.58 | Keval | Hi!, anyone active out there? |
| 07:33.22 | thiago | just ask your question |
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| 07:35.48 | Keval | Im a complete noob and want to know about working on OSS, can u suggest me a site where they teach me from the basics? |
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| 08:07.02 | rnikhil275 | Kevla: Try openhatch.org |
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| 08:13.20 | PulkoMandy | hey, Microsoft is releasing parts of their .NET framework under the MIT license. I guess that's one more step in more C# open source projects |
| 08:13.21 | PulkoMandy | http://blogs.msdn.com/b/dotnet/archive/2014/11/12/net-core-is-open-source.aspx |
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| 16:29.15 | andre__ | I'm a GCI admin. Going to "My Dashboard > Connections > See organization's connections" and clicking a name of a person who wants to become a mentor for our org, under ACTIONS there is "Role To Assign*: No Role" and no dropdown to change "No Role" to "Mentor". Is that intended behavior? |
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| 16:30.48 | andre__ | ...and trying "Connect users with $organization" instead to "Start connections with users" and setting "Role To Assign" to "Mentor" there, I get an error "Connection between $user and google/gci2014/$org already exists." |
| 16:30.57 | andre__ | this is slightly confusing. wondering if I'm doing something wrong. |
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| 16:36.54 | carols | andre__: did you file a bug with the melange team? |
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| 16:37.32 | andre__ | Hi carols! No, wasn't sure yet whether I'm just too stupid. :) Will do now (got URL handy?) |
| 16:37.52 | carols | andre__: sure https://code.google.com/p/soc/issues/list |
| 16:37.56 | andre__ | thx |
| 16:37.59 | carols | yw |
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| 16:43.22 | carols | serves some tea and coffee |
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| 16:50.09 | brlcad | andre__: carols: I believe that's intended behavior -- the user has to confirm the connection, you can't just assign them |
| 16:50.15 | carols | okay cool |
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| 16:50.21 | carols | then it will probably just get closed :-) |
| 16:50.38 | andre__ | brlcad: so I'm waiting for confirmation from a user? that wasn't very clear to me so far |
| 16:50.42 | brlcad | I did a double take but then noticed there are two fields |
| 16:50.57 | carols | our new tech lead really wants everything to go through the bug system so we have a record of what UIs are confusing to people |
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| 16:51.52 | brlcad | yeah, certainly a UI place that could be improved, but does seem to be working, just misleading status words |
| 16:52.15 | andre__ | well, the message I see is "User started connection and requests role." And on that very same page there is "ACTIONS: Role To Assign*: No Role". I'd expect that UI to allow me to assign a role that the user obviously requested. |
| 16:52.16 | brlcad | andre__: yeah, if you invite them / set them as a mentor, their role will remain unassigned until they confirm |
| 16:52.23 | andre__ | Yeah, UI is very very confusing to me |
| 16:52.35 | brlcad | if they request and you haven't confirmed them yet, it'll also be unassigned until you confirm (which is the e-mail link) |
| 16:52.37 | andre__ | especially as I need to go to a totally different page then to reply to their request for a role |
| 16:52.44 | brlcad | nods |
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| 16:55.42 | andre__ | brlcad: but still I can't move any forward, because if I try the "START CONNECTIONS WITH USERS" form instead where there IS a role dropdown, I get "Connection between nemobis and google/gci2014/wikimedia already exists." as an error :) |
| 16:55.48 | andre__ | anyway. I'll continue on the bug report :) |
| 16:56.03 | andre__ | ...which is https://code.google.com/p/soc/issues/detail?id=2418 |
| 16:56.17 | brlcad | nods |
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| 18:03.18 | carols | serves some tea and coffee |
| 18:04.58 | meflin | mmm tea |
| 18:05.07 | carols | i agree. |
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| 18:06.06 | meflin | today has been a teapoplex ... my kettle was dead when I woke up :( |
| 18:06.15 | carols | thatâs sad :-( |
| 18:06.25 | Calchan | meflin: how did you survive that? |
| 18:06.51 | meflin | I use the micowave and made a not very good cup of tea |
| 18:08.27 | Niharika_ | It's winter here and just not possible to get myself moving without a cup a tea first thing in the morning. |
| 18:09.21 | Calchan | Niharika_: it's little cold where meflin and I live too, when I drove to work this morning the temperature was -18C |
| 18:10.04 | Niharika_ | That's a LITTLE cold? :O It's barely 10C here and we're feeling so cold. :P |
| 18:10.29 | Calchan | let's just say that here and now it's not unusual |
| 18:10.50 | Calchan | we've seen much worse |
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| 18:11.38 | Niharika_ | I suppose your need for tea is much greater than mine then. :) |
| 18:12.10 | Calchan | heh, I need hot tea even in the hottest summer! |
| 18:12.23 | Calchan | hot soup too |
| 18:13.12 | Niharika_ | How hot does your hottest summer go? :P 30C? |
| 18:13.49 | Calchan | usually a little higher than that |
| 18:14.26 | Niharika_ | Tea is kinda addictive. |
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| 20:57.08 | Robert_S | Is the Haiku org admin around? |
| 20:59.05 | PulkoMandy | Robert_S: hi, I'm from Haiku |
| 20:59.19 | Robert_S | PulkoMandy: Were you attempting to bulk upload tasks? |
| 20:59.54 | PulkoMandy | not me, but maybe our other admin was |
| 21:00.12 | Robert_S | I see errors in the logs, and wanted to get to the bottom of it. |
| 21:00.40 | PulkoMandy | yes, it seems scott added all our 230 tasks already |
| 21:01.02 | Robert_S | Ok, he made it work eventually. |
| 21:01.13 | Robert_S | There are a lot of errors :) |
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| 21:13.23 | umccullough | Robert_S, it was probably scottmc |
| 21:13.45 | umccullough | oh, i see PulkoMandy mentioned that |
| 21:13.57 | Robert_S | umccullough: PulkoMandy gave me his email address, I'm going to CC him on the bug. Sounds like he figured it out in the end. (And we have an error condition that needs to be handled.) |
| 21:14.02 | umccullough | great |
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| 22:26.58 | larowlan | hi my son is interested in participating in the coming google code in - and I'm interested in mentoring him - working on Drupal - is there anything in the rules about not being able to mentor relations/ |
| 22:27.37 | meflin | that is an extremely poor idea |
| 22:27.49 | larowlan | seems valid under 2) eligibility |
| 22:27.52 | meflin | when this came up in gsoc as I recall there is no rule |
| 22:28.32 | meflin | you should think hard about how its going to be when you fail him |
| 22:28.46 | gevaerts | I think it's allowed, but I'd recommend letting someone else handle the evaluations |
| 22:28.59 | terri | yeah, I don't remember there being a rule, but last time it came up on the mailing list it turned out every org had been able to find another mentor to help out. better for the students, too, since they get more experience working with a wider community. |
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| 22:29.39 | larowlan | sounds like a good idea - letting someone else handle the evaluations |
| 22:29.45 | larowlan | and the community involvement |
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| 22:35.36 | umccullough | gsoc isn't so much a competition as gci is - i suspect it might be viewed as potentially unfair to other students |
| 22:35.48 | umccullough | even if there's no rule - there's still perception ;) |
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| 22:37.20 | umccullough | also, mentoring in GCI isn't like gsoc - mentors aren't assigned to each student per-se, they're just assigned to tasks which any student can claim and complete |
| 22:37.23 | larowlan | yeah Slurpee found this in the rules "I have already been working with one of the open source projects; am I allowed to work on their tasks for the contest? As long as you or a family member do not hold an official position in the open source project, such as core developer, documentation working group member or sit on the board of the project, you are welcome to participate in the contest. If you are not sure, please contact Google's contest a |
| 22:37.24 | larowlan | sp O |
| 22:37.36 | larowlan | so I've emailed them to seek clarification |
| 22:38.01 | umccullough | if you were to sign up as mentor on a set of tasks, there's no guarantee your son would be able to claim them |
| 22:38.02 | larowlan | the point of involvement is to engage with the community, so I'd be willing to mentor him, but he'd have to engage with the community to get his tasks evaluated |
| 22:38.27 | larowlan | better to ask permission/clarify I think |
| 22:38.31 | umccullough | now, if you were to assist him outside of mentoring, i don't think there's a rule against that at all |
| 22:38.33 | larowlan | thanks all for feedback |
| 22:38.56 | larowlan | well the idea is to convert some of the time spent on the computer from minecraft to something productive |
| 22:38.58 | umccullough | in fact, somewhere i even read that students are allowed to complete their tasks however they see fit, even if that means getting someone else to help them externally |
| 22:39.48 | umccullough | at that point, you're not necessarily a "mentor" per the definition of GCI - you're just someone assisting him ;) |
| 22:40.20 | larowlan | fair point |
| 22:40.29 | larowlan | will wait to see what the ospoteam says |
| 22:40.31 | umccullough | k |
| 22:40.34 | larowlan | thanks again |
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