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| 11:10.13 | Valodim | um, hi |
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| 12:41.02 | abhinavsv_3 | Hi , Does becoming a GSA disqualify me for GSoC . I am aspiring for GSoC 2015 . |
| 12:41.18 | abhinavsv_3 | ? |
| 12:41.29 | gopesh | nope two things are unrelated |
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| 12:42.51 | tachyons | abhinavsv_3, No |
| 12:43.44 | abhinavsv_3 | Also , Unfortunately I was not selected this year . Still in the course of my application I have learnt a lot, Like I started to think about a nice project , work more with like and "Fixed a Bug" . Could you tell me what I can do till next year ? |
| 12:44.19 | abhinavsv_3 | *replace the last like with linux |
| 12:44.51 | abhinavsv_3 | I want to ensure that my application is not rejected next year . |
| 12:45.01 | gopesh | learn a lang properly and start contributing early to an app which interest you the most, get urself acquainted to the community |
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| 12:45.18 | gopesh | this will increase chances in gsoc 15 |
| 12:46.49 | abhinavsv_3 | Thank you . I am pretty good at C,C++ and Java . Proficient in C++ and java . I worked with gnome-calculator community during my application . can you give me some suggestion to start with ? |
| 12:47.29 | gopesh | i connect you with a person who did gsoc in gnome |
| 12:47.29 | breton | keep working with them I guess :) |
| 12:47.42 | rohit-dua | whats GSA? |
| 12:47.46 | gopesh | she can help you |
| 12:48.04 | abhinavsv_3 | Yep . sure . |
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| 12:59.07 | cs_shadow | abhinavsv_3: You can get yourself acquainted with a version control system, like git (most orgs use git) or svn. Also, try fixing some more bugs, preferably related to the area related to the project you're thinking to do. |
| 13:01.22 | dufferzafar | abhinavsv_3: What cs_shadow said and maybe try Python. It is what people have *hots* for these days/ |
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| 13:08.34 | Valodim | (also, don't write spaces before punctuation. looks very unprofessional) |
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| 13:28.04 | dufferzafar | Btw, abhinavsv_3, I'm assuming you're Indian. Where city are you from? |
| 13:28.10 | dufferzafar | Which* |
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| 14:02.04 | abhinavsv_3 | @<cs_shadow>Right now I am getting up with git . Fixed a bug in gnome calculator and I would continue to do . ok . @<Valodim> Sure I will follow it , @ <dufferzafar>Yes , I am an Indian, I am from Chennai . Living at Thanjavur(at the University) . |
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| 15:44.48 | gsocbot | gopesht: "numapps" is 2014: 190/371 orgs; 1304/6313 proposals (by 4420 students). 2013: 177/417 orgs; 1192/5999 proposals (by 4144 students). 2012: 180/406 orgs; 1212/6685 proposals (by 4258 students). 2011: 175/417 orgs; 1116/5474 proposals (by 3731 students). 2010: 151/367 orgs; 1026/5539 proposals (by 3464 students). |
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| 17:18.18 | youtube | Hi, I was just wondering what google earns from this google summer of code program? |
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| 17:20.53 | neverpanic | youtube: nothing, I guess. People working on open source software used by Google. |
| 17:21.13 | neverpanic | I assume it's their way of giving something back. |
| 17:23.02 | youtube | neverpanic: Yeah, that would be a case. But I hear a lot that whatever companies do is all for their benefit in some way or other. |
| 17:24.09 | teepee | collecting karma points does still benefit even if it costs money |
| 17:24.37 | neverpanic | Well, they're getting personal data (and reviews) of the "best" (using the metrics of the orgs) out of ~5000 students. But I don't think that's why they do it. |
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| 17:25.39 | neverpanic | If that was the reason I'd expect more approaches from headhunters. |
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| 17:25.45 | Valodim | internet fame |
| 17:27.31 | neverpanic | Take OpenCV for example – I bet Google uses that somewhere, so they're interested in improving the project, and that's what GSoC does. |
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| 17:28.30 | youtube | They could do that by hiring people than spending so much on GSoC? |
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| 17:29.43 | neverpanic | they could, but hiring would probably cost them much more than GSoC does. |
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| 17:45.24 | Ident | i think its both for promotional reasons and because they indirectly profit from it as well |
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| 17:48.19 | Ident | in the end its positive for both the company, to whom those payments are probably peanuts, and for the students. so it is a win-win situation |
| 17:48.26 | Ident | or even win-win-win |
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| 18:02.25 | closeSourced | Is it unethical to apply to GSoC if you are not open source softwares fan? |
| 18:02.40 | Valodim | nope. you'll be afterwards :) |
| 18:03.22 | closeSourced | Oh, Until today, I am not. I am anti-open source |
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| 18:04.16 | neverpanic | If you're anti-open source GSoC is probably not the best spot for you. But if you can convince some project to accept you, why not. |
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| 18:07.00 | youtube | Anti-Open Source? Why? Open source never hurts anybody I guess. |
| 18:07.11 | waldi | neverpanic: it is a precondition by google |
| 18:07.31 | closeSourced | waldi: What is condition? |
| 18:08.48 | neverpanic | waldi: The precondition I remember is that the project must use an OSI-approved open source license. Is that what you were referring to? |
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| 18:09.23 | closeSourced | youtube: I believe open source is hurting software industry. Software companies will be more rich if the world is close sourced. But, I don't want to go on a debate her as it is off-topic here |
| 18:10.00 | neverpanic | closeSourced: I don't understand why you'd want to participate in GSoC if you're anti-open source, though. You're obviously not going to stay with the project, and you can get an internship at $closed-source-software-company instead. |
| 18:10.39 | closeSourced | neverpanic: to learn. That is sufficient reason for me |
| 18:10.59 | neverpanic | You're thinking about putting something on your CV that doesn't represent you. Why would you want to do that? |
| 18:11.12 | neverpanic | You can learn at an internship, too. |
| 18:11.12 | youtube | I think "Software Companies" are more benefited than hurt. |
| 18:11.45 | closeSourced | neverpanic: I am not going to put something fake on my resume |
| 18:12.07 | waldi | neverpanic: not only does it need to have the license. the code created during the project must be open |
| 18:13.44 | panzone | well, i hav myself some criticisms about open source software. but i think this could be a good occasion to see the "other side" |
| 18:14.35 | closeSourced | Well, I posted against open source software here http://programmers.stackexchange.com/questions/238650/are-open-source-software-ruining-the-software-industry/ if anybody is interested to see |
| 18:14.51 | closeSourced | Don't laugh it is closed |
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| 18:15.39 | panzone | i' ll read it after dinner :) |
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| 18:17.12 | youtube | I wish carol would be here to share her views on this interesting topic. |
| 18:17.16 | Ident | closeSourced: are you also anti-science? |
| 18:17.27 | Ident | because those nasty research papers are all public |
| 18:17.33 | Ident | that must hurt companies! |
| 18:18.11 | neverpanic | Ident: If only they all were public :/ |
| 18:18.36 | Ident | neverpanic: it is supposed to be |
| 18:19.30 | Ident | also open source definitely benefits companies, a lot of companies use open source code ,unfortunatley often by illegally stealing it infringing rights, it has happened in the past and people who work on open source have neither time nor money for lawsuits so it often goes unpunished unless someone else steps in to defends the rights |
| 18:19.35 | Ident | if it didnt benefit companies, why would they use it? |
| 18:19.55 | Ident | and in the end it is all about people, not companies. thats how it should be. and open source DEFINITELY helps hobbyists |
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| 18:20.32 | closeSourced | I am against providing free softwares to end users. They should buy them instead of getting them free |
| 18:20.33 | Ident | since big corporates and hobbyists as well use and develop open source projects i see absolutely no basis for your statementsd |
| 18:20.44 | Ident | ok i see now, you are a troll |
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| 18:20.48 | Valodim | (obvious troll) |
| 18:20.56 | closeSourced | I am not trolling. |
| 18:20.59 | Ident | sure |
| 18:21.06 | closeSourced | [23:39] <closeSourced> youtube: I believe open source is hurting software industry. Software companies will be more rich if the world is close sourced. But, I don't want to go on a debate her as it is off-topic here |
| 18:21.22 | closeSourced | <PROTECTED> |
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| 18:21.40 | MisterA | you lack a basic understanding of how computers work |
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| 18:21.56 | Ident | impossible. after all he is using one |
| 18:22.06 | youtube | If you don't want a debate then what do you want? |
| 18:22.16 | closeSourced | nothing |
| 18:22.20 | Ident | love |
| 18:22.24 | solistice | peac |
| 18:22.29 | solistice | peace* |
| 18:22.49 | closeSourced | I just asked a question. I got the answer. I was not the one who started this debate |
| 18:23.39 | solistice | actually you did start the debate... By saying open-source hurts software companies |
| 18:23.44 | youtube | I bet you too use many open source software! |
| 18:23.54 | MisterA | why exactly are you on the freenode irc server if you're against open source? |
| 18:24.09 | Ident | stop feeding |
| 18:24.11 | neverpanic | Please, everyone. He's right, this isn't the place for this discussion. |
| 18:24.43 | neverpanic | And he clearly indicated he didn't want to discuss this here. He merely answered a question by somebody else asking why he didn't like open source. |
| 18:25.21 | tachyons | open source may be good or bad , that is not an issue here . but spaming channel with offtopic discussions cannot be tolerated |
| 18:25.22 | youtube | Linux, PHP, OpenCV etc. Just imagine world without these |
| 18:25.27 | jpirie | maybe a better place would be in the offtopic channel |
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| 18:25.29 | jpirie | !offtopic |
| 18:25.30 | gsocbot | jpirie: "offtopic" is Take the chat to ##gsoc-offtopic, please. |
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| 18:26.04 | Valodim | world without php ♥ |
| 18:27.02 | youtube | php is not bad. it's just not good |
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| 18:30.26 | youtube | !topic |
| 18:30.42 | youtube | !logs |
| 18:30.43 | gsocbot | youtube: "logs" is http://ibot.rikers.org/%23gsoc/ |
| 18:31.23 | youtube | what all can I ask this bot? |
| 18:31.37 | neverpanic | !botabuse | youtube |
| 18:31.37 | gsocbot | youtube: "botabuse" is (#1) If you want to play with the bot, please do so in a private /query so as not to spam the channel, or (#2) When in a query with me, use whatis #gsoc <factoid> |
| 18:31.38 | neverpanic | a lot. |
| 18:32.50 | youtube | whatis #gsoc topic |
| 18:33.03 | youtube | !whatis #gsoc topic |
| 18:33.03 | gsocbot | youtube: Error: No factoid matches that key. |
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| 18:33.20 | closeSourced | youtube: try /query gsocbot |
| 18:35.02 | panzone | closeSourced: i have read yout post and no offence, but i think you don' t really understand what is open source in reality. |
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| 18:42.03 | closeSourced | maybe |
| 18:42.50 | tachyons | closeSourced, panzone please move this discussion from here :-) |
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