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| 01:11.03 | rushboy | Hello, I am residing in India and shall do for the rest of the program. Do I have to submit a tax form because I do not earn so I do not pay taxes. I am confused about this. Please can anyone help me out ? |
| 01:13.48 | meflin | you must ... see the FAQ |
| 01:13.53 | rvraghav93 | rushboy: Since we have to get the money via Banks, I guess there will definitely be some kind of tax ... But talk to a good auditor and you could have a majority of that waived ! |
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| 01:15.47 | rvraghav93 | rushboy: I guess the best way is to show some kind of credit such that the income comes below the tax slab ! Still your best advicer would be an auditor. Find a good one. :) |
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| 01:16.19 | meflin | either way you still have to submit the form to google |
| 01:17.24 | rvraghav93 | meflin: I think no ... the form seems to be only for ppl from us and those who will reside in us ... Ill send a link |
| 01:17.47 | meflin | see FAQ |
| 01:17.49 | rvraghav93 | http://www.facebook.com/l.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.google-melange.com%2Fgsoc%2Fdocument%2Fshow%2Fgsoc_program%2Fgoogle%2Fgsoc2014%2Fstudentinfo&h=AAQFKSS6n |
| 01:17.53 | rushboy | rvraghav93: yes, I also guess that the form is for people residing in US |
| 01:18.12 | rvraghav93 | http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/document/show/gsoc_program/google/gsoc2014/studentinfo |
| 01:18.28 | meflin | sec |
| 01:21.27 | rushboy | rvraghav93: are you a student too ? |
| 01:21.49 | rvraghav93 | ya and oh u might have to submit a different form though. ( based on the link ) |
| 01:22.24 | rushboy | rvraghav93: so have you submitted the tax form ? |
| 01:22.50 | rvraghav93 | nope .. theres a lot of time i guess |
| 01:23.29 | rvraghav93 | Right now only the payoneer account has to be set up and ready |
| 01:24.31 | meflin | the form depends on you local tax authority |
| 01:24.50 | meflin | gsoc is world wide and we are not tax experts |
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| 01:26.07 | meflin | it is required you submit a tax form it is in the FAQ |
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| 01:28.19 | rvraghav93 | meflin: for ppl based from outside us, its given that only Foreign Certification Form needs to be given :) |
| 01:28.24 | rushboy | rvraghav93: lot of time ? I guess we have to submit it by 28th April |
| 01:28.42 | meflin | rvraghav93: yep |
| 01:28.52 | rvraghav93 | Isn't that deadline for the payoneer account ? |
| 01:29.03 | rushboy | rvraghav93: Yes, I am also of the view that only foreign certification for students in India would suffice. |
| 01:29.28 | rushboy | rvraghav93: and tax forms would not have to be submitted. |
| 01:29.29 | meflin | there is a lot of world outside the usa |
| 01:29.46 | meflin | nope you need your forms |
| 01:30.16 | rushboy | rvraghav93: yes for the payoneer account as well as the submission of tax forms I guess. |
| 01:30.26 | meflin | IE the form google is asking for |
| 01:30.30 | rushboy | rvraghav93: correct me if I am wrong |
| 01:30.51 | rvraghav93 | wait ill check again ! |
| 01:32.25 | rvraghav93 | 1. We are accepting your tax forms starting now. **The deadline to submit these forms is Friday, 16 May, 2014.** Pl -- taken from the mail sent to me on 21st :) could you check your mail and get back to me ? |
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| 01:34.11 | rushboy | rvraghav93: yes, its 16th May |
| 01:34.14 | rushboy | thanks :-) |
| 01:34.34 | rvraghav93 | meflin: and then there is India :P |
| 01:34.53 | rvraghav93 | rushboy: np :) right now we have to set up our payoneer account only right ? |
| 01:35.13 | rushboy | rvraghav93: any idea on the submission deadline for foreign certificate form ? |
| 01:36.09 | rvraghav93 | Similar to tax form na .. so same date only I think ! |
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| 01:44.04 | rushboy | rvraghav93: I guess so |
| 01:44.42 | rushboy | rvraghav93: but I am just a student, why and how would I have a tax form. I'm sorry but I fail to understand. |
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| 01:46.03 | rvraghav93 | internship / job / whatever ... u earn ... u pay tax ;) rules of the land ! |
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| 02:03.05 | rushboy | rvraghav93: one last question, since I am not employed nor do I have an internship, I earn nothing |
| 02:03.21 | rushboy | so where does the tax form come into play ? |
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| 02:37.56 | CarlFK | http://en.flossmanuals.net/GSoCMentoring/notes-for-first-year-organizations/ "* Search the wiki, but don’t be afraid to ask questions on the appropriate mailing list. " |
| 02:38.13 | CarlFK | where is the wiki? |
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| 02:44.18 | kremlin- | CarlFK: that was written in 2011 |
| 02:45.25 | CarlFK | kremlin-: ok, where was the wiki ;) |
| 02:50.47 | kremlin- | no idea heh |
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| 04:39.35 | gokhan | Hi, is there any portal where I can complain about any organisation for GSoC'14? |
| 04:40.04 | VarunAgw | GSoC Google Group |
| 04:40.26 | VarunAgw | or mail carols@google.com directly |
| 04:40.40 | gokhan | No, not in public |
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| 04:41.00 | VarunAgw | use the E-Mail option ^ |
| 04:41.03 | gokhan | okay, mailing to carols seems good |
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| 06:21.38 | shredpub | Hello |
| 06:21.43 | shredpub | I got accepted recently only |
| 06:21.52 | shredpub | I have not got any mail from Google though |
| 06:22.12 | VarunAgw | shredpub, Is your name on melange website |
| 06:22.19 | shredpub | Yes |
| 06:22.39 | VarunAgw | Have you check your spam folder? :) |
| 06:23.28 | shredpub | Yes |
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| 06:24.06 | VarunAgw | I think you should contact carols to confirm selection |
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| 06:54.12 | shredpub | Alright, I have dropped him a mail |
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| 07:22.35 | prth | my friend got a reply from payoneer that "For your Payoneer program the GBT transactions are free of charge with no conversion fees." |
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| 07:32.51 | manugd | I changue the mail to one of google |
| 07:33.06 | manugd | can you add me to the student mailing list with the new email, please? |
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| 08:57.50 | VaticanCameos | !india | Manishearth |
| 08:57.50 | gsocbot | Manishearth: "india" is Some hints for payoneer in India can be found at http://thejoyofpython.wordpress.com/2014/04/22/regarding-payoneer-for-indian-students/ |
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| 09:34.54 | VaticanCameos | People who have doubts regarding Payoneer and India can type '!india'. I've updated the blogpost with a chat I had with a Payoneer rep. |
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| 09:46.44 | gitanshu | My bank branch is so awesome, they don't know their swift code |
| 09:47.11 | darnir | gitanshu: Smaller branches sometimes don't have a SWIFT code. |
| 09:47.19 | VarunAgw | gitanshu, Congrats! |
| 09:47.49 | gitanshu | darnir: so what do I do in that case? |
| 09:48.36 | fewcha | !india |
| 09:48.37 | gsocbot | fewcha: "india" is Some hints for payoneer in India can be found at http://thejoyofpython.wordpress.com/2014/04/22/regarding-payoneer-for-indian-students/ |
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| 10:31.29 | darnir | gitanshu: I'mnot sure. But I've heard things about you being able to provide them with the SWIFT code of the nearest branch that has one. |
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| 11:34.05 | gsocbot | tachyons: "india" is Some hints for payoneer in India can be found at http://thejoyofpython.wordpress.com/2014/04/22/regarding-payoneer-for-indian-students/ |
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| 13:07.23 | Dragooon | !india |
| 13:07.24 | gsocbot | Dragooon: "india" is Some hints for payoneer in India can be found at http://thejoyofpython.wordpress.com/2014/04/22/regarding-payoneer-for-indian-students/ |
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| 13:11.37 | bhargavgolla | I was selected in two organizations, but now it is removed from both. Can anyone tell me wats going on |
| 13:11.56 | VarunAgw | ask organisation or google admins |
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| 13:20.58 | kaku | !logs |
| 13:20.59 | gsocbot | kaku: "logs" is http://ibot.rikers.org/%23gsoc/ |
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| 13:22.29 | varun | where to send the tax form for non-us students ? |
| 13:22.36 | Shuai | hello everyone! |
| 13:23.00 | VarunAgw | varun, upload it to melange |
| 13:23.01 | solistice | varun, go look at my dashboard - important documents |
| 13:23.07 | solistice | there you can upload it |
| 13:23.11 | VarunAgw | in edit profile section |
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| 13:52.28 | amit_ | hello |
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| 13:52.59 | amit_ | i have a doubt |
| 13:53.10 | darnir | amit_: Hello. |
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| 13:53.13 | darnir | !ask |
| 13:53.13 | gsocbot | darnir: "ask" is Don't ask to ask, just ask. Also see !smartquestions. |
| 13:53.24 | darnir | !ask | amit_ |
| 13:53.25 | gsocbot | amit_: "ask" is Don't ask to ask, just ask. Also see !smartquestions. |
| 13:53.34 | amit_ | I will be visiting my relatives in the UK during hte summer |
| 13:53.52 | amit_ | would there be anything I must do |
| 13:54.18 | VarunAgw | !smartquestions |
| 13:54.18 | gsocbot | VarunAgw: "smartquestions" is You're more likely to get a decent reply if you ask questions the smart way, see http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html |
| 13:54.47 | amit_ | other than filling in the tax forms ... I will be coming back after the vacation and would there be a problem with the taxes |
| 13:54.48 | amit_ | ?? |
| 13:55.07 | darnir | amit_: You should ask a qualified tax consultant. |
| 13:55.29 | darnir | No one here can give you such legal advice. |
| 13:55.51 | amit_ | oh thanks ... |
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| 13:57.48 | solistice | well... |
| 13:58.01 | solistice | if amit doesnt live in the USA |
| 13:58.07 | solistice | there should be no problem |
| 13:58.48 | amit_ | solistice: oh thanks ... that was relief .. |
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| 13:59.21 | solistice | I'm pretty certain that is correct information, please contact a qualified person to verify |
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| 14:00.46 | amit_ | I have linked the payoneer to the my university bank account |
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| 14:02.53 | gevaerts | amit_: what do you mean by "my university bank account"? |
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| 14:05.04 | amit_ | in order to get the VISA they ask for an account, this is the same account |
| 14:05.29 | gevaerts | I mean, is it a bank account *you* control? |
| 14:05.38 | amit_ | yes |
| 14:05.47 | gevaerts | OK |
| 14:05.59 | gevaerts | understood it as "The university's bank account" |
| 14:07.00 | amit_ | I guess it says one should not earn by doing work in an organization recognized by UK |
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| 14:25.31 | ishitva | May I know what is the SWIFT/BIC number , for Payoneer registration. ? |
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| 14:25.50 | system64 | ishitva: Call your bank. |
| 14:26.19 | ishitva | system64: is it mandatory to fill that number ? |
| 14:26.24 | darnir | Hello carols. |
| 14:26.34 | darnir | In for a nice and calm day? |
| 14:26.35 | carols | hi darnir |
| 14:27.06 | heller | ishitva: it's the bank identification. It is needed so that the money can be routed to your account. |
| 14:27.07 | system64 | Ofcourse it is, how else can payoneer transfer funds to your account. |
| 14:27.08 | darnir | ishitva: I would assume so. Since that is how they can transfer the money to your bank account. |
| 14:27.18 | ishitva | carols: okay |
| 14:27.45 | carols | ishitva: okay what? |
| 14:27.56 | ishitva | I typed your name by mistake |
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| 14:33.27 | cnj | carols: I saw that labels for welcome packages were being printed yesterday. Does it imply that all proof of enrollment have been accepted? |
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| 14:33.38 | carols | cnj: no, it does not imply that |
| 14:33.59 | cnj | carols: ok thanks |
| 14:34.31 | vultraz | hands out mint tea |
| 14:35.12 | kblin | howdy carol |
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| 14:35.51 | carols | hey kblin |
| 14:36.23 | darnir | kblin: Mind if I PM you? I'd like to ask something that probably doesn't concern others here. |
| 14:37.13 | kblin | sure |
| 14:37.17 | ishitva | What is the difference between IFSC code and SWIFT/BIC code ? |
| 14:37.25 | kblin | aka "no, I don't mind" :) |
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| 14:38.20 | mudler | hi everyone |
| 14:39.50 | carols | hi mudler |
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| 14:43.08 | mwilkes|wrk | ishitva: One is an international standard, one isn't. I suggest you take up payment questions with payoneer's customer services |
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| 14:44.27 | ishitva | okay |
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| 14:49.05 | darnir | hey carols. Do you mind if I PM you? There's a question which might not concern the rest of them here. |
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| 14:49.19 | carols | darnir: sure |
| 14:49.29 | darnir | Thanks. |
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| 15:41.26 | gevaerts | Abhishek_: good luck with that! The #gsoc teapot is infinitely large! |
| 15:41.32 | gevaerts | has some tea |
| 15:42.14 | vultraz | Abhishek_: http://static.gamesradar.com/images/mb/GamesRadar/us/Games/A/Alice%20Madness%20Returns/Bulk%20Viewer/PC%20PS3%20360/2011-05-13/Vorpal_Blade_Eyepot--article_image.jpg :P |
| 15:42.54 | ishitva | By mistake I had registered the currency as INR instead of USD for Payoneer registration , may I know how to change it . Please help |
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| 15:43.18 | Abhishek_ | :P |
| 15:43.28 | gevaerts | ishitva: the Payoneer support people should be able to help with that |
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| 15:43.56 | ishitva | Should I call them ? |
| 15:43.57 | Abhishek_ | ishitva: I suppose that the problem was resolved by a chat with the customer support reps. Check out !india |
| 15:44.12 | Abhishek_ | !india | ishitva |
| 15:44.12 | gsocbot | ishitva: "india" is a choice between INR/USD that you never be able to make. So, flip a coin. |
| 15:44.23 | ishitva | How do chat with them ? |
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| 15:44.46 | Abhishek_ | is flipping a coin since yesterday |
| 15:45.12 | Abhishek_ | always seems to land upright |
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| 15:45.21 | VarunAgw | ishitva, Visit their website, open contact us link, click live chat button |
| 15:45.35 | ishitva | Okay let me check |
| 15:45.35 | VarunAgw | Or do you want me to give you that link too |
| 15:45.50 | ishitva | Please give me the link :p |
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| 15:46.11 | VarunAgw | ishitva, Can I please chat for you too? |
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| 15:55.11 | carols | meflin: you around |
| 15:55.11 | carols | ? |
| 15:55.39 | meflin | yep |
| 15:55.43 | carols | pm? |
| 15:55.50 | meflin | sure |
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| 16:07.23 | solistice| | carols, it worked, they now believe it! |
| 16:07.26 | solistice| | thanks again! |
| 16:08.15 | ishitva | VarunAgw: I chatted with them , they said that they have sent my request to payment department , and they will reply within 2-4 business days . I hope that my currency will be changed |
| 16:08.33 | VarunAgw | lets hope |
| 16:08.38 | ishitva | Yes |
| 16:08.40 | VarunAgw | you have time till 15 may |
| 16:09.03 | ishitva | Okay by then if I get my currency changed I will not be at loss . |
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| 16:14.11 | ishitva | VarunAgw: 28th March was the last date for registering for Payoneer which I have done , so would it be a problem if they change my currency after that date ? |
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| 16:16.18 | ishitva | !India |
| 16:16.18 | gsocbot | ishitva: "India" is a choice between INR/USD that you never be able to make. So, flip a coin. |
| 16:16.33 | Turl | hi carols |
| 16:17.37 | Turl | carols: quick question, is the 28th april deadline just to register, or should I be worried if they have not approved my registration by then? |
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| 16:19.07 | carols | Turl: that’s the deadline to sign up |
| 16:19.22 | carols | you need to have your registration approved by 17 may |
| 16:21.02 | Turl | ok then, thanks carols |
| 16:21.06 | carols | cheers |
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| 16:23.33 | gopesh | carols: i have registered for payoneer using my yahoo account and it has been approved and in melange in my profile the email id is of yahoo i hope thats not a problem |
| 16:23.46 | carols | why would that be a problem? |
| 16:24.08 | gopesh | because i have logged in melange via gmail account |
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| 16:25.12 | gopesh | carols: it is so because the password of payoneer account with gmail account is not recoverable at the moment |
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| 16:25.24 | carols | gopesh: alright, i’m sorry to hear that. |
| 16:26.10 | gopesh | so i guess the payment method is good enough for me i don't have to make any changes?? |
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| 16:28.19 | carols | i don’t think i understand the question. |
| 16:28.21 | Niharika | gopesh: Did you get an email from them saying: Your bank information has been received and approved.You are now ready to receive payments from Google Summer of Code directly to your bank account in USD. |
| 16:28.39 | gopesh | yes but with INR |
| 16:28.59 | Niharika | gopesh: Okay. I don´t think you need to make any changes then. |
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| 16:29.45 | gopesh | carols: I am saying that the payoneer account is setup with yahoo instead of gmail,and with gmail account i logged in melange so is there any problem in that?? |
| 16:29.56 | gopesh | Niharika: thanks :) |
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| 16:30.11 | carols | gopesh: you need to use the email address in melange. if you used the email address in melange i’m failing to see the problem. |
| 16:30.39 | gopesh | okay then got it :) |
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| 16:30.54 | gopesh | carols: thanks :) |
| 16:30.58 | carols | cheers |
| 16:31.29 | diadara | carols: is that a hard deadline ? my bank doesn't support swift payments/notsure I am trying to find a way around or will have to get a new account |
| 16:31.38 | Turl | carols: one last set of questions and then I'll have some coffee :) |
| 16:31.40 | carols | diadara: is what a hard deadline? |
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| 16:31.55 | diadara | sign up for payoneer |
| 16:32.01 | diadara | 28TH |
| 16:32.05 | ishitva | gopesh You have chosen INR ? |
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| 16:32.16 | carols | diadara: yes, that is a hard deadline if you want your payment on 19 may |
| 16:32.32 | Turl | carols: do I need to print, fill and scan the foreign cert. form? or can I handwrite it and make a pdf with my phone camera? |
| 16:32.43 | carols | Turl: either is fine. |
| 16:33.01 | Turl | great |
| 16:33.17 | Turl | carols: and what do I need to fill on address? my home address? |
| 16:33.24 | diadara | carols: what if I don't mind getting payed a little later |
| 16:33.25 | carols | Turl: yes |
| 16:33.44 | Turl | carols: ok, thanks again :) |
| 16:34.01 | carols | diadara: well, you will either be paid on 19 may or you will be paid during our next round of payments at midterm evaluations. so it’s not “a little later,” it’s when the next payment cycle is in the system |
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| 16:35.07 | diadara | carols: ok thanks,then I will use my parents accont |
| 16:35.10 | gopesh | Niharika: are you receiving payments USD |
| 16:35.10 | gopesh | Niharika: won't the banks charge any conversion rate instead of the $45 by payoneer |
| 16:35.13 | carols | diadara: ok |
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| 16:35.59 | gopesh | ishitva: yes |
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| 16:36.17 | ishitva | gopesh: wouldn't you like to change it to USD ? |
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| 16:37.16 | gopesh | ishitva: why is that so??will be saving any dollars actually i donno will bank charge any money for conversionP.S my bank account currency is in INR |
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| 16:37.44 | meflin | bangs head on desk |
| 16:38.06 | ishitva | gopesh: read this http://thejoyofpython.wordpress.com/2014/04/22/regarding-payoneer-for-indian-students/ |
| 16:38.48 | ishitva | gopesh: Even I had selected the option of INR but have now requested Payoneer to change it to USD |
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| 16:40.12 | gopesh | ishitva: shall I tell them in chat.. well i have done that but i haven't received any mail yet |
| 16:40.44 | ishitva | Okay , then wait for their updates. I am waiting too . Lets hope that it gets changed :) |
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| 16:41.06 | Dragooon | ishitva gopesh, you can use ##gsoc-india for this |
| 16:41.48 | ishitva | Okay |
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| 16:50.04 | agliodbs | !timeline |
| 16:50.04 | gsocbot | agliodbs: "timeline" is http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/events/google/gsoc2014 |
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| 17:12.33 | Turl | carols: does your offer to send welcome packages to somebody else for later delivery still stand? I'll send you an email about it if so |
| 17:13.02 | carols | Turl: i don’t know what you mean. you mean for someone who’s in a customs-restricted country? |
| 17:13.22 | Turl | carols: yes, I'm on a customs restricted country |
| 17:13.54 | carols | Turl: then yes, you can email me an address for someone who’s not and i can send it to them |
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| 17:16.17 | Turl | ok, thanks |
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| 17:28.39 | kremlin- | here's hoping alozz's mail about using mailing lists properly makes an impact on people |
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| 17:34.06 | carols | kremlin-: it never matters. every year the same thing. |
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| 17:35.52 | stqism | carols: How long did we have to enroll as a supplier? Our foundation is currently going through a rename and I'm waiting on the state. |
| 17:36.27 | gitanshu | What are we getting in the welcome package? |
| 17:36.34 | carols | stqism: the deadline to request a PO is november 7. which means you must have been enrolled as a supplier as some point before then in order for google to process it. |
| 17:36.36 | carols | so that long. |
| 17:36.41 | carols | gitanshu: by may 23 |
| 17:37.01 | stqism | carols: That is excellent, we'll be all done long before that. |
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| 17:37.06 | carols | great. |
| 17:37.27 | gitanshu | carols: I know the date. Just curious what's inside the package? |
| 17:37.57 | VarunAgw | hi carols, when welcome package will be start delivering? |
| 17:38.06 | carols | VarunAgw: it will be delivered by may 23 |
| 17:38.07 | stqism | VarunAgw: May 23rd |
| 17:38.10 | carols | gitanshu: its a surprise |
| 17:38.16 | kremlin- | i jinxed it didn't i |
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| 17:38.50 | VarunAgw | Why there is so delay in it? |
| 17:38.54 | gitanshu | carols: Ah! Thanks :D |
| 17:39.01 | VarunAgw | is excited about welcome package |
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| 17:39.27 | stqism | VarunAgw: I'm sure it takes time to get it all together |
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| 17:40.58 | carols | VarunAgw: have you ever shipped 1,307 packages to 70 countries? |
| 17:41.18 | carols | VarunAgw: if you had, you’d understand that it is incredibly difficult to do that. |
| 17:41.45 | VarunAgw | carols, no, not to a single country. :p |
| 17:41.54 | carols | well there you go. |
| 17:42.18 | VarunAgw | thanks carols, I got my answer |
| 17:42.22 | carols | cheers |
| 17:42.31 | stqism | VarunAgw: I can tell you out of experience that mailing a dozen things to 3 nations isn't fun either |
| 17:42.41 | stqism | 70? Ouch |
| 17:43.03 | kremlin- | "no but i can ship 1307 emails to 70 countries really easily here watch" |
| 17:43.14 | mudler | carols: let me guess.. welcome package with a surprise... nexus 5 ? :D |
| 17:43.24 | VarunAgw | I don't know but isn't the courier handle all the problems? |
| 17:43.25 | carols | mudler: are you kidding? |
| 17:43.30 | mudler | yeah of course :P |
| 17:43.36 | carols | do you know what’s harder than shipping 1,307 packages to 70 countries? |
| 17:43.39 | carols | shipping electronics. |
| 17:43.40 | stqism | kremlin-: Well, sometimes the send all button is hard to find. |
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| 17:43.51 | stqism | carols: I was going to say getting people to read a faq |
| 17:43.53 | mudler | lol i was kidding :) |
| 17:44.10 | meflin | lets stick to the possible |
| 17:44.42 | carols | if someone wants a nexus 5, they are welcome to spend the $505 they get for participating in gsoc and buy themselves a nexus 5. |
| 17:45.31 | nikhatzi | serves tea and cookies |
| 17:46.04 | kremlin- | i'm happy with the t-shirt and fat sack of cash honestly |
| 17:46.07 | mudler | maybe my joke was too hard :( sorry huh |
| 17:46.29 | carols | mudler: it’s fine. |
| 17:46.33 | carols | maybe i was too harsh. |
| 17:46.41 | stqism | kremlin-: Cant say sending a stack of cash is easy |
| 17:46.46 | carols | i’ve been dealing with people complaining about their free things all morning. |
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| 17:47.01 | mudler | i'm sorry about that |
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| 17:47.05 | carols | mudler: me too. |
| 17:47.07 | carols | have some tea. |
| 17:47.09 | mudler | i saw also the unhappy mail |
| 17:47.17 | mudler | about complaining the long mail -_-" |
| 17:47.31 | carols | yeah. |
| 17:47.41 | Turl | shipping electronics is even hard for google themselves, they only do so on a handful of countries |
| 17:47.54 | nikhatzi | unhappy e-mails from accepted students? |
| 17:48.04 | carols | nikhatzi: accepted students, mentors… |
| 17:48.17 | nikhatzi | :( |
| 17:48.19 | MatthewWilkes | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:48.21 | carols | nikhatzi: people who don’t even participate in the program.. |
| 17:48.27 | mudler | carols: as mentor i appreciate your long mail as reminders, thanks for your time |
| 17:48.37 | carols | mudler: cheers, i’m glad to hear someone does. |
| 17:48.54 | nikhatzi | i just don't get the point of complaining for giving you a chance to work in a cool project :/ |
| 17:48.56 | carols | MatthewWilkes! |
| 17:49.02 | MatthewWilkes | carols! |
| 17:49.04 | MatthewWilkes | how are you? |
| 17:49.04 | carols | nikhatzi: i agree. |
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| 17:49.18 | carols | MatthewWilkes: honestly? a bit frayed. people are mean. :-( |
| 17:49.20 | carols | how are you? |
| 17:49.41 | kremlin- | i can only imagine how bad this would be if google used paypal instead of payoneer |
| 17:49.56 | nikhatzi | thinks most of us are thankful to carols o/ |
| 17:50.02 | carols | nikhatzi: thanks |
| 17:50.02 | mudler | kremlin-: sorry for the ignorance in this kinda of things... but why? |
| 17:50.08 | MatthewWilkes | carols: Oh dear. Illegitimi non carborundum! |
| 17:50.13 | meflin | passes carols a tea from the secret stash |
| 17:50.18 | carols | thanks meflin |
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| 17:50.24 | carols | MatthewWilkes: hehe :-) |
| 17:50.54 | kremlin- | mudler: paypal historically has very bad customer service, if they disable your account it's pretty much a death sentence, also they charge too much and probably don't work well with non US/Canadian people |
| 17:50.56 | MatthewWilkes | carols: I'm doing well, got a 5 day project today that is going really well. |
| 17:50.59 | stqism | carols: Agreed with mudler here, your emails are very helpful in keeping up with timelines. Also, still grateful we got chosen. |
| 17:51.07 | carols | MatthewWilkes: glad to hear it. |
| 17:51.12 | carols | stqism: thanks for saying so. |
| 17:51.17 | kremlin- | carols is a saint |
| 17:51.28 | mudler | kremlin-: uh oh ok i didn't know that, thanks for the tip |
| 17:51.28 | kremlin- | i'd be using all kinds of profanity by now in her position |
| 17:51.29 | carols | kremlin-: i am not. but i appreciate the sentiment. |
| 17:51.54 | MatthewWilkes | And I'm seeing gevaerts next week (we're both going on a brewery tasting) :P |
| 17:52.03 | mudler | ahahahah kremlin-++ |
| 17:52.35 | carols | MatthewWilkes: that sounds fun :-) |
| 17:53.48 | gevaerts | MatthewWilkes: ready for it? :) |
| 17:53.49 | MatthewWilkes | carols: I'm sure I'll be bragging about the mentor summit's awesomeness given lots of people will be trying Pliny the Elder for the first time there |
| 17:53.54 | MatthewWilkes | gevaerts: Yup, everything's booked |
| 17:54.03 | gaup | whenever i see carol name, I am reminded of chirtsmas carols :) |
| 17:54.03 | MatthewWilkes | Leaving my house at 0510 the day before |
| 17:54.24 | gevaerts | gaup: that joke is only funny one month per year :) |
| 17:54.30 | carols | MatthewWilkes: will be? i don’t think we’re serving pliny the elder this year :-) |
| 17:54.40 | gaup | true that :D |
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| 17:54.53 | MatthewWilkes | carols: We had it last year and it was awesome! |
| 17:54.59 | carols | MatthewWilkes: i agree. |
| 17:55.05 | carols | they had to drive to the brewery to get it |
| 17:55.09 | MatthewWilkes | I bet |
| 17:55.09 | carols | that was very nice of them. |
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| 17:58.10 | MatthewWilkes | See, I should learn to drive. Then I could pretend driving to see Russian River is a hardship. |
| 17:58.56 | carols | MatthewWilkes: you could plan a road trip to russian river with people who do drive after the summit. |
| 17:59.09 | carols | MatthewWilkes: people like me who have a car and will need to drink heavily. |
| 17:59.12 | MatthewWilkes | I can't, I'm afraid, Plone conf starts the next day |
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| 17:59.26 | carols | MatthewWilkes: sorry to hear that. |
| 17:59.41 | MatthewWilkes | I wouldn't have to but I'm the social director this year |
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| 17:59.54 | MatthewWilkes | That said, we're planning a sprint at Bodega Bay at the start of next year |
| 17:59.59 | carols | that sounds nice |
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| 18:00.21 | MatthewWilkes | So, if you ever fancy taking a day off work to queue up for a pub in santa rosa, let me know! |
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| 18:01.09 | carols | sure, i will do that :-) i can just drive to santa rosa, i live in sausalito, it’s not that far. |
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| 18:13.26 | VarunAgw | !guide |
| 18:13.47 | VarunAgw | !gsocstudentguide |
| 18:14.39 | VarunAgw | !learn gsocstudentguide as http://en.flossmanuals.net/gsocstudentguide/ |
| 18:14.40 | gsocbot | VarunAgw: "gsocstudentguide" is http://en.flossmanuals.net/gsocstudentguide/ |
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| 18:22.02 | VarunAgw | When you post to the GSoC student list you are essentially using a bullhorn to broadcast your words to 3,000 people across time zones and international boundaries. Use your bullhorn wisely, or it might be ripped from your hands by an unruly and angry mob, or by a responsible moderator. |
| 18:22.12 | VarunAgw | lol |
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| 18:24.30 | somaen | To be fair, a similar thing applies in here (albeit, with the number being a tad lower) |
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| 18:28.39 | rushboy | Hello I am from India. I have obtained a SWIFT code by going to my bank's local branch. But I look it up on the internet, it shows the SWIFT code does not exist. Are all SWIFT codes listed on the internet ? |
| 18:29.01 | rushboy | Help appreciated :-) |
| 18:29.19 | nikhatzi | carols, may i have a quick word with you in private? |
| 18:29.29 | carols | nikhatzi: sure |
| 18:29.44 | ice[9] | there are some branches, who don't really have their own SWIFT codes, and borrow (!?) from cousins and friends .. |
| 18:29.58 | gevaerts | rushboy: I'd recommend asking the payoneer support people about it |
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| 18:30.42 | gevaerts | None (or at least not many...) of us here are experts in international banking :) |
| 18:30.46 | ice[9] | rushboy: but you if they gave you a SWIFT, and assuming there was no "typos" you should find it in the interet.. i mean c'mmon.. it's the internet.. |
| 18:31.15 | gevaerts | does know some people who once installed a (physical) access control system at the swift headquarters though :) |
| 18:31.44 | ice[9] | rushboy: on the second thought, scratch that and go what gevaerts says :D |
| 18:31.55 | ice[9] | !logs |
| 18:31.55 | gsocbot | ice[9]: "logs" is http://ibot.rikers.org/%23gsoc/ |
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| 18:56.31 | rushboy | Hello what is the deadline for the submission of the foreign certificate ? |
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| 20:05.36 | LetterRip | random question - what percentage of CS graduates would you consider to be 'good programmers'? |
| 20:06.09 | solistice | depends on what you define as good programmers |
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| 20:07.47 | meflin | I know good programers who are not CS graduates |
| 20:08.10 | solistice | and I know CS graduates who suck at programming |
| 20:08.15 | stqism | LetterRip: I hear that a lot of folks with doctorate/theory level degrees lack a lot of actual skill |
| 20:08.17 | solistice | mostly depends on motivation |
| 20:09.02 | CarlFK | LetterRip: I would say 80% are above average. :D |
| 20:10.16 | LetterRip | CarlFK: heh |
| 20:10.28 | kremlin- | haskell is a great example of a truly sophisticated, academic idea that is useless in a lot of real-world circumstances |
| 20:10.30 | LetterRip | CarlFK: 80% definitely think they are above average |
| 20:10.49 | LetterRip | kremlin-: functional programming is good for things that require parallelism |
| 20:11.04 | meflin | lets NOT do lang wars please |
| 20:11.18 | LetterRip | yeah :) |
| 20:11.23 | kremlin- | LetterRip: my window manager is written in haskell and i love it |
| 20:11.43 | kremlin- | i hvae no idea what i'm doing when im writing configs but it's fun and "is guaranteed not to crash" which is pretty cool |
| 20:11.54 | LetterRip | heh |
| 20:11.59 | LetterRip | what wm is that? |
| 20:12.16 | kremlin- | xmonad |
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| 20:17.43 | MisterA | kremlin-: I like xmonad too, it's pretty great |
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| 20:40.05 | kremlin- | MisterA: i really love it. i couldn't believe how seamlessly it dealt with an extra monitor, especially relative to how much time i spent getting freaking xorg to handle it |
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| 23:39.02 | cfoch | Hello. I'm a student in GSoC 2014. I signed up for Payoneer directly form payoneer.com and not form the link which Carol Smith sent |
| 23:39.09 | cfoch | what should I do, now? |
| 23:42.05 | umccullough | maybe ask payoneer? |
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| 23:43.50 | cfoch | wait... the link she sent to the email is the same link which the big SIGN UP button in payoneer website redirect to? right? |
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