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| 00:01.36 | solistice | Hi |
| 00:02.04 | solistice | I filled in the payment through payoneer, but I didn't receive a confirmation mail yet, as was stated |
| 00:02.13 | solistice | is this normal? should I just have some more patience? |
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| 00:03.31 | coderbrahmin | solistice: Check your spam. It could have been ended up there. Happens to me. |
| 00:03.37 | solistice | hmm, okay |
| 00:03.47 | solistice | anyway, how can I find out if everything works correctly? |
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| 00:10.15 | fewcha | what about the students from India who are not legally allowed to use payoneer cards? |
| 00:11.20 | Mathnerd314 | so http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/document/show/gsoc_program/google/gsoc2014/studentinfo#us says Google will send a 1099 form. Which 1099 will that be? 1099-MISC? |
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| 00:20.44 | anurag_goel | !numapps |
| 00:20.44 | gsocbot | anurag_goel: "numapps" is 2014: 190/371 orgs; 6313 proposals submitted by 4420 students. 2013: 177/417 orgs; 1192/5999 proposals (by 4144 students). 2012: 180/406 orgs; 1212/6685 proposals (by 4258 students). 2011: 175/417 orgs; 1116/5474 proposals (by 3731 students). 2010: 151/367 orgs; 1026/5539 proposals (by 3464 students). |
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| 01:09.30 | eagleoneraptor | Hello, I have had problems when creating my payoneer account to receive the payments, I contacted their to check if they can fix the problem: I lost connection during the registration process and couldn't countinue, and now I cannot create it with my GSoC E-Mail address. The thing is, if they cannot help me with this, can I change my E-Mail address on GSoC profile and try to register a payoneer account with another E-Mail addres |
| 01:09.34 | eagleoneraptor | Thanks |
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| 01:45.30 | rajul | eagleoneraptor, before doing this, confirm this with some admin running the program like carol smith or cat allman...you may send them a mail or ping them tomorrow when they are available here...... |
| 01:45.56 | rajul | eagleoneraptor, you got till the 28th to do this so there is no rush :)..... |
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| 01:57.55 | eagleoneraptor | rajul, ok, thank you so much. Where their nicknames/email? |
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| 02:23.42 | rajul | eagleoneraptor, carol's nick is carols and cat's is catallman.....as much as i remember... |
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| 02:24.07 | rajul | eagleoneraptor, they are mostly online during US office hours.... :) |
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| 02:29.54 | l0rd_hex | hey all, if we failed to get any takers for our proposals is there any feedback offered? |
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| 02:31.18 | Spraynard3000 | DID. NOT. GET. PICKED. |
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| 02:31.46 | downey | l0rd_hex: you should check with the mentor(s) for the project and/or the org admin |
| 02:32.11 | l0rd_hex | downey: thanks, did they review each proposal? |
| 02:32.27 | downey | l0rd_hex: I don't know, you'd have to ask them about their process |
| 02:32.30 | l0rd_hex | I wasn't sure if it was short listed befor eit got to them or not |
| 02:32.33 | l0rd_hex | ohh, ok |
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| 02:32.51 | downey | l0rd_hex: Each org is a bit different in how they review proposals |
| 02:32.59 | l0rd_hex | gotcha, thanks |
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| 03:01.56 | dhanush | eagleoneraptor: If its a gmail account, you might try adding a plus after your email name : youremailid+anythintafterplus@gmail.com ; Its the same as youremailid@gmail.com ; Although Im not sure if that will resolve the situation. |
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| 03:05.26 | eagleoneraptor | dbanush, thanks, but I prefer to wait to customer support reply instead of screwing it up more :P |
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| 03:06.15 | Maximus__ | Does gsoc mention anywhere the number of hours / week required to be able to take part in it? |
| 03:06.59 | Maximus__ | Does it qualify as a full time internship or something else? I need to submit this info to my university |
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| 03:11.05 | dhanush | Maximus__: organizations do expect you to be working full time on this. Read the faq. |
| 03:11.27 | dhanush | eagleoneraptor: it may be the wiser thing to do. good luck! |
| 03:12.53 | Maximus__ | dhanush: http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/document/show/gsoc_program/google/gsoc2014/help_page link doesn't mention anything like that. I will need to provide some sort of docs to my univ admin people |
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| 03:14.58 | dhanush | Maximus__: http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/document/show/gsoc_program/google/gsoc2014/help_page#11._How_much_time_is_required_to |
| 03:15.14 | dhanush | Maximus__: http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/document/show/gsoc_program/google/gsoc2014/help_page#2._I_would_like_to_use_the_work_I_did |
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| 03:16.08 | dhanush | Maximus__: http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/document/show/gsoc_program/google/gsoc2014/studentinfo#other |
| 03:17.17 | Maximus__ | dhanush: Thanks a lot! I did go through these FAQs before but they only mention about it informally. I probably need something like in "hours per week". |
| 03:17.45 | MisterA | well |
| 03:18.04 | MisterA | to be safe, i'd say about 30-40+, it really depends on what you're doing though |
| 03:18.30 | MisterA | i'd set aside a minimum of about 40 a week for just working on my project |
| 03:19.05 | dhanush | Maximus__: check the last link I sent you. It says "send Carol Smith the exact wording that should appear in the letter" |
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| 03:19.32 | Maximus__ | MisterA: Oh it not for my own management. I am not doing anything besides gsoc during summer but for administrative purposes my university probably needs some sort of letter that Dhanush is talking about. |
| 03:20.04 | dhanush | Maximus__: also, you can try using the template in that page itself. Try asking your professor what exactly would he want written in it. |
| 03:21.04 | dhanush | Maximus__: or, once you've completed the program, maybe the certificate of completion google will provide will do it for you? |
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| 03:22.32 | Maximus__ | dhanush: I'll have to check with the admin people. I will be registered as a student during summer at my university (although not taking any courses and working on my own) and that may have some restriction on the number of hours i can work for. |
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| 03:23.33 | Maximus__ | dhanush: my appointment to the university's program requires me to be enrolled during summer as well. They pay me a stipend over the year for that. |
| 03:24.14 | dhanush | Maximus__: okay. maybe you should really ask people at your university on whats the best course of action. |
| 03:24.34 | Maximus__ | dhanush: yeah, it's very complicated :D |
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| 03:38.10 | gsocbot | two_min: "logs" is http://ibot.rikers.org/%23gsoc/ |
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| 04:03.44 | amit_ | !numapps |
| 04:03.44 | gsocbot | amit_: "numapps" is 2014: 190/371 orgs; 6313 proposals submitted by 4420 students. 2013: 177/417 orgs; 1192/5999 proposals (by 4144 students). 2012: 180/406 orgs; 1212/6685 proposals (by 4258 students). 2011: 175/417 orgs; 1116/5474 proposals (by 3731 students). 2010: 151/367 orgs; 1026/5539 proposals (by 3464 students). |
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| 04:43.59 | soyPablo | Hi everyone! I am from Mexico but live in Korea. Is it possible to request my Payoneer payments to be made to a Mexican bank account? |
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| 05:59.42 | gsocbot | mavihs: "next" is The GSoC Community Bonding Period is now on. Students begin coding on 19 May, 2014 |
| 05:59.58 | mavihs | !countdown |
| 06:00.00 | gsocbot | mavihs: "countdown" is Don't start countdown. You will be kicked. |
| 06:00.13 | mavihs | thanks :D |
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| 06:48.53 | VarunAgw | Hello! |
| 06:48.54 | gsocbot | s1991: "next" is The GSoC Community Bonding Period is now on. Students begin coding on 19 May, 2014 |
| 06:49.00 | zhdanov | Is it possible to check where are accepted students from? (country, university) |
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| 06:49.24 | thiago | !stats |
| 06:49.25 | gsocbot | thiago: I have 3 registered users with 3 registered hostmasks; 1 owner and 0 admins. |
| 06:49.29 | VarunAgw | Possibly a blog post by google in few days will tell it |
| 06:49.42 | VarunAgw | zhdanov, ^ |
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| 06:50.42 | thiago | http://google-opensource.blogspot.com/2013/06/google-summer-of-code-2013-full-of.html is from last year |
| 06:50.52 | thiago | there will probably be a new one for 2014 in the next month or two |
| 06:50.56 | thiago | in the models of the above |
| 06:51.03 | s1991 | can anybody tell, which payment option would be better in india? |
| 06:51.21 | VarunAgw | there is only one? |
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| 06:52.38 | zhdanov | thanks for info, VarunAgw, thiago |
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| 06:53.20 | s1991 | VarunAgw: Payoneer matercard and directly to bank option |
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| 06:57.21 | VarunAgw | s1991, If remember remembered correctly payoneer doesn't provide master card in india |
| 06:57.55 | s1991 | VarunAgw: ohh yes, so we've only one option that is bank |
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| 06:58.44 | r4chi7 | VarunAgw: is that so? Students from India cannot get a card? :/ |
| 06:58.45 | s1991 | VarunAgw: and yes, can I give a/c details of my family members? |
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| 06:59.36 | s1991 | r4chi7: yes, I've read that rbi has block that service, so what's wrong with onother option |
| 06:59.57 | r4chi7 | s1991: nothing's wrong with the other option, just wanted a card :/ |
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| 07:00.59 | VarunAgw | s1991, I think you can use parents account. Contacting payoneer will be a better option as they can give you an exact answer |
| 07:01.23 | r4chi7 | I won't be using my parents' account.. :P |
| 07:01.34 | s1991 | haven't you done it yet |
| 07:01.51 | r4chi7 | not till now. |
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| 07:06.23 | s1991 | and I guess the nearest deadline we have is of payoneer reg only |
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| 07:06.39 | s1991 | on 28th, anything before that? |
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| 07:21.04 | s1991 | has anybody done payeneer reg from India? |
| 07:21.32 | gopesh | yes i have done for accepting payment via local bank ass |
| 07:21.40 | gopesh | account |
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| 07:27.25 | s1991 | gopesh: I've my bank a/c at some other place and during summer I would be at other place, so won;t be there any problem? |
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| 07:30.07 | kblin | check with the payoneer people? |
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| 07:32.43 | s1991 | kblin: is there any channel, or I teliphonically contact them |
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| 07:33.25 | kblin | I don't think they're on IRC. you should have been given contact details, thoughsome sort of contact details, though |
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| 07:34.38 | kblin | every couple of years the google folks try something new to get payments out to people from all over the world, payoneer is new |
| 07:35.19 | kblin | so I have no experience with it whatsoever |
| 07:35.51 | s1991 | kblin: ok fine, I'll figure it out |
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| 08:11.37 | Niharika | It´s really surprising that Payoneer caters to most of the obscure countries, but not India. |
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| 08:13.18 | sss | hey, is detail on payoneer a/c editable afterwards?? |
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| 08:20.45 | sss | how do I find swift code of my bank? |
| 08:21.15 | ankush92 | In the list of accepted proposals, I spotted a guy who has been selected in two different organisations. Is that allowed? |
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| 08:21.49 | PlkMndy | ankush92: no. There are at least 5 cases of this, not sure what the decision is yet |
| 08:21.50 | diadara | ankush92: who ? |
| 08:21.51 | darnir | ankush92: No. |
| 08:22.17 | PlkMndy | it seems to be a Melange bug |
| 08:22.50 | ankush92 | PlkMndy: He is shown selected in two different organisations with two different proposals |
| 08:23.02 | ankush92 | PlkMndy: I don't think that's a bug |
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| 08:25.32 | PulkoMandy | ankush92: it is |
| 08:25.51 | PulkoMandy | Melange is supposed to detect this and warn everyone, but it didn't |
| 08:25.57 | PulkoMandy | so some people got selected twice |
| 08:26.52 | ankush92 | PulkoMandy: So what happens now? Another round of deduplication? |
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| 08:27.25 | PulkoMandy | I don't know, ask one of the google organizers, but most likely these students are kicked out and no one replaces them |
| 08:27.54 | PulkoMandy | or they decide on one of the orgs, if it was only an accident and not an attempt to cheat from their part |
| 08:28.23 | PulkoMandy | but I don't think they are going to try reusing the freed slots, that would create more duplicates, and things would never end |
| 08:29.24 | sss | hello, can anybody tell is detail on payoneer a/c editable afterwards?? |
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| 08:35.12 | Manishearth | PulkoMandy: maybe they are two people with the same name? |
| 08:35.52 | ishitva | I want to ask about the Payoneer registration. |
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| 08:37.04 | ishitva | I had registered for Google Melange using a gmail account , while in my profile I had mentioned by Yahoo account . So which one should I use for registering for Payoneer ? I had received an email of acceptance on my Yahoo account . |
| 08:37.22 | ishitva | Acceptance for GSOC * |
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| 08:38.41 | PulkoMandy | Manishearth: maybe. but same name, same profile name and proposals to similar orgs seems very unlikely |
| 08:38.51 | PulkoMandy | but I'll let people at Google decide |
| 08:39.45 | ishitva | kblin: would you like to guide me on the payoneer registration ? |
| 08:40.14 | Dragooon | Hellos! |
| 08:40.34 | ishitva | Hello Dragooon |
| 08:40.39 | Dragooon | ishitva: Preferably the one listed under My Profile |
| 08:40.50 | Dragooon | It should be same as your GSoC e-mail |
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| 08:42.04 | ishitva | Okay . My email listed under the My Prfile is the one on which I had received my acceptance email . I had not received any email on the email which I had used for registering for GSoC |
| 08:42.12 | ishitva | Dragooon: ^ |
| 08:42.44 | Dragooon | ishitva: Why are they different? DId you change the e-mail? |
| 08:43.19 | ishitva | Dragooon: I was using a Yahoo ID for a google account through which I had registered. |
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| 08:44.23 | Dragooon | ishitva: Okay so your GSoC account is under a gmail profile but your Google account is a yahoo ID right? |
| 08:44.29 | ishitva | But later some issue came up with the Proof of Enrollment , and I had not got any any email for mmelange , so I felt that I must have a gmail account as well. Because there was no inbox asscociated with the YAhoo Id |
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| 08:44.53 | aakash | hello i want some help on payoneer registration |
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| 08:45.10 | ishitva | Dragooon: yes |
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| 08:45.29 | ishitva | Dragooon: But in my Profile I mention the Yahoo Id as my email. |
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| 08:45.44 | aa_ | hello, I've signup to payoneer what else need to do now?? |
| 08:46.01 | aakash | i am from india, it is mentioned onpayments cards page that people from india must apply via gbt does that mean i have to use 2nd option |
| 08:46.23 | Dragooon | ishitva: So under your My Profile it shows your gmail ID on which you received your acceptance e-mail right? |
| 08:46.26 | Dragooon | aakash: Yeah |
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| 08:46.44 | aa_ | Dragooon: ^^ |
| 08:47.04 | Dragooon | aa_: Did you register the Payoneer account using your GSoC email? |
| 08:47.26 | Dragooon | ishitva: In which case I’m 99% sure you should use the e-mail on which you received the e-mail, but you should clarify with an op at #melange |
| 08:47.37 | aa_ | ya, u mean gmail but didn't receive any mail yet |
| 08:47.41 | aakash | so that will make all the transactions to my bank account directly? |
| 08:47.45 | ishitva | Dragooon: Okay |
| 08:48.07 | Dragooon | aa_: You don’t, try logging in the username/password you set to check if the account works |
| 08:48.10 | Dragooon | aakash: Yeah |
| 08:48.28 | aakash | will it charge me more than $5 if yes what will it be? |
| 08:48.37 | darnir | kblin: I have a small query. Mind if I PM you? |
| 08:48.58 | Dragooon | aakash: Actually I’m not sure. See, under Fees for GBT for Indians it says local bank transfer in USD or INR costs $0 |
| 08:49.04 | Dragooon | So the only fees would be the conversion charges |
| 08:49.24 | aa_ | Dragooon: ya, it ask to update a/c info |
| 08:49.31 | Dragooon | aa_: Go ahead |
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| 08:49.43 | aakash | so it will not charge for conversion? |
| 08:50.24 | Dragooon | aakash: It will, but not directly. As in they give a slightly lower rate than the market buy/sell you see at sites such as xe.com |
| 08:50.37 | aakash | and what about charge for transaction for local banks? |
| 08:50.51 | aakash | thats was the last one |
| 08:51.03 | Manishearth | PulkoMandy: ah, I see |
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| 08:52.19 | uwotmate | i'm looking for a project to volunteer, i know i missed the due date |
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| 08:52.41 | darnir | uwotmate: There's loads of projects. Take your pick. |
| 08:52.50 | PulkoMandy | uwotmate: you can still contact orgs that interest you, you just won't get paid |
| 08:52.55 | darnir | The best thing about volunteering is that no one has to select you. :) |
| 08:53.02 | PulkoMandy | most orgs have more students than mentors and can accomodate more students |
| 08:53.31 | uwotmate | i have contacted one about something involving kernel but all they said is "sure, go on mate" |
| 08:53.40 | darnir | See.. :) |
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| 08:53.45 | uwotmate | aren't they supposed to give me a hand instead of sit there and watch |
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| 08:53.55 | darnir | Well, you need to ask for help. |
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| 08:54.11 | uwotmate | right then, thank yous |
| 08:54.12 | Dragooon | aakash: Do you have a Payoneer account? Check out Pricing and Fees on top |
| 08:54.20 | darnir | No one will come and give you tutorials. When you're stuck, they're around to help you through it |
| 08:54.25 | aa_ | Dragooon: perfect, confirmed |
| 08:54.28 | aakash | no i do not have one |
| 08:54.29 | Dragooon | For me it says $0 for withdrawal, so I don’t think they should charge anything |
| 08:54.33 | ishitva | Dragooon: when I try to login to Gmail using my Yahoo Id , it opens up the inbox for the Gmail ID with which I login into Google Melange . |
| 08:54.55 | achal | uwtmate: actually sometimes they just test you. You have to posses certain basic skill to get started. |
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| 08:55.16 | achal | uwtmate: Just show them you worth their time. |
| 08:55.29 | Dragooon | ishitva: See, according to my understanding it should simply be the e-mail listed under My Profile |
| 08:55.40 | ishitva | Okay. |
| 08:55.44 | Dragooon | But I don’t want to loose your money so I’m not 100% sure |
| 08:55.54 | ishitva | I'll confirm it from Carols as well |
| 08:56.04 | Dragooon | You should ask Carol |
| 08:56.05 | Dragooon | Yeah |
| 08:56.08 | ishitva | Sure |
| 08:56.19 | aakash | ok thanks dragooon |
| 08:56.24 | aa_ | Dragooon: is that's it |
| 08:56.55 | aa_ | i mean I got confirmed msg shown on payoneer site |
| 08:57.15 | Dragooon | aakash: https://payouts.payoneer.com/webapps/methodregistration/fees.aspx?country=IN&pid=DJYxRUStsMq3EKWpggmvRQ%3d%3d&langid=1&sessionid=hegek2s050dh4knfj1armfpx&processor_type=1&ProcessorTypeId=1 |
| 08:57.29 | Dragooon | aa_: I think so, I don’t think we need to do anything on melange |
| 08:57.44 | Dragooon | Or do we? I’m not sure on this part |
| 08:57.58 | aa_ | Dragooon: so how melange will know, have done registration or not |
| 08:58.17 | aa_ | I think next thing we need to tax thing |
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| 08:58.27 | Dragooon | aa_: I guess carol will try to add you to Google’s payout, and fail if you’re not registered. I need to confirm this though |
| 08:58.29 | aa_ | to do* |
| 08:58.43 | aa_ | ok |
| 08:58.50 | darnir | And I thought the cards were a hassle :P |
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| 08:59.50 | Dragooon | darnir: To be really honest, I like bank transfers more than card. So it’s a win win for me :P |
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| 09:00.55 | darnir | Oh bank transfers would have been a lovely idea. I was just commenting on all the hiatus here. |
| 09:02.40 | Dragooon | darnir: Yeah I guess, people who’re new to international transfers can get confused |
| 09:03.31 | darnir | I must admit I have no clue how this new payoneer system works. |
| 09:03.59 | Dragooon | darnir: Seems simple, you register at payoneer.com and they pay :P |
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| 09:07.14 | darnir | :) How I wish it were that simple for us last year. Get the card, activate it. Increase your payout limit. Go to an ATM and withdraw in small amounts. |
| 09:07.25 | darnir | Also, incur transaction charges.. |
| 09:08.34 | Framedragger | re: payoneer registration: in melange, it says "Please note that you must use the email address listed in your Melange profile to sign up for an account on Payoneer, otherwise your payment will not process correctly." my email address under my profile -> contact information differs from the melange account email address noted at the top ("Logged in with account ...@gmail"). |
| 09:08.37 | Framedragger | which would should i use? |
| 09:09.16 | Framedragger | s/would should/should/ |
| 09:09.24 | Niharika | Framedragger: Ask in #melange. |
| 09:09.33 | Framedragger | ahh, there's a #malange :) |
| 09:09.37 | Framedragger | *melange |
| 09:09.47 | Framedragger | thanks Niharika |
| 09:09.57 | Niharika | No problem. |
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| 09:18.22 | _dstorm | in Student Foreign Certification, do i have to type in the document the details first then take printout or first print out and then they should be handwritten? |
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| 09:21.02 | Framedragger | _dstorm: last year i just printed out and used a pen for everything (black pen, capital letters), fwiw. seemed like the most easy way |
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| 09:22.23 | _dstorm | Framedragger: thanks a lot. |
| 09:22.24 | cbrahmin|exams_ | !numapps |
| 09:22.24 | gsocbot | cbrahmin|exams_: "numapps" is 2014: 190/371 orgs; 6313 proposals submitted by 4420 students. 2013: 177/417 orgs; 1192/5999 proposals (by 4144 students). 2012: 180/406 orgs; 1212/6685 proposals (by 4258 students). 2011: 175/417 orgs; 1116/5474 proposals (by 3731 students). 2010: 151/367 orgs; 1026/5539 proposals (by 3464 students). |
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| 09:22.58 | cbrahmin|exams_ | !next |
| 09:23.06 | gsocbot | cbrahmin|exams_: "next" is The GSoC Community Bonding Period is now on. Students begin coding on 19 May, 2014 |
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| 09:26.29 | gopesh | What are the welcome goodies, that we will be recieving for gsoc |
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| 09:26.59 | s1991 | gopesh: may be I guess notebook |
| 09:27.08 | Valodim | haha, "notebook" |
| 09:28.00 | gopesh | Isn't this time something special |
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| 09:29.40 | gopesh | being 10th instance of the program |
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| 09:30.18 | s1991 | when'll we getting t-shirts |
| 09:30.37 | diadara | s1991: when you clear the final evaluation |
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| 09:52.26 | Dragooon | We get T-Shirts?!?!? |
| 09:52.44 | electro_ | !numapps |
| 09:52.44 | gsocbot | electro_: "numapps" is 2014: 190/371 orgs; 6313 proposals submitted by 4420 students. 2013: 177/417 orgs; 1192/5999 proposals (by 4144 students). 2012: 180/406 orgs; 1212/6685 proposals (by 4258 students). 2011: 175/417 orgs; 1116/5474 proposals (by 3731 students). 2010: 151/367 orgs; 1026/5539 proposals (by 3464 students). |
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| 09:54.06 | electro_ | How to find out how many proposals were selected this year? Clearly !numapps doesn't tell you that. |
| 09:54.21 | teepee_ | electro_: 1307 |
| 09:54.32 | electro_ | teepee_: Okay thanks. |
| 09:54.44 | teepee_ | electro_: according to the link from the topic |
| 09:54.55 | electro_ | teepee_: Can you give me the link? |
| 09:55.02 | vultraz | ... |
| 09:55.16 | Dragooon | lalala |
| 09:55.21 | Dragooon | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:55.30 | Dragooon | You exported the csv and counted? |
| 09:55.32 | teepee_ | electro_: ^ |
| 09:55.47 | teepee_ | no, there's a count at the bottom of the table |
| 09:55.50 | electro_ | teepee_: Also, can I find out how many proposals from my country were accepted? (My country isn't among the top ten) |
| 09:56.12 | Dragooon | teepee_: Damn, I’m stupid. I didn’t bother to scroll down and have been wondering how many were accepted |
| 09:56.26 | teepee_ | electro_: nope, that's not there. i guess google will blog that info later |
| 09:56.34 | Dragooon | A cool solution I had was to 1) count the number of JSON returns and 2) export as CSV |
| 09:56.55 | electro_ | Dragooon: Same here :P |
| 09:57.06 | teepee_ | Dragooon: haha, still, you found a solution |
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| 09:57.36 | teepee_ | Dragooon: but it's like with all the IT stuff. if the computer does not work, first check if it's plugged in :D |
| 09:58.12 | electro_ | Google mentioned they'll send a package by 23rd May. Does it contain T-Shirts? |
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| 09:59.43 | neverpanic | electro_: No. You'll get a T-Shirt if you pass the final evaluations. |
| 10:00.27 | electro_ | neverpanic: Any idea what the package might contain then? |
| 10:00.54 | neverpanic | electro_: No. Here's what it contained in 2011: https://neverpanic.de/blog/2011/05/27/gsoc-welcome-package/ |
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| 10:01.13 | neverpanic | The contents will be different this year, since you won't get a card. But there's no point in guessing. Just wait and see. |
| 10:01.24 | teepee_ | electro_: you can find lots of blog entries showing pictures from last years, it's probably similar this year too |
| 10:01.26 | Dragooon | teepee_: I swear to god that happens to me every other week |
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| 10:02.38 | electro_ | neverpanic: Oh they paid via seperate cards earlier? Nice. |
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| 10:04.47 | one_more_minute | !numapps |
| 10:04.47 | gsocbot | one_more_minute: "numapps" is 2014: 190/371 orgs; 6313 proposals submitted by 4420 students. 2013: 177/417 orgs; 1192/5999 proposals (by 4144 students). 2012: 180/406 orgs; 1212/6685 proposals (by 4258 students). 2011: 175/417 orgs; 1116/5474 proposals (by 3731 students). 2010: 151/367 orgs; 1026/5539 proposals (by 3464 students). |
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| 10:10.25 | mudler | panzone: there are italian students, my student and I are italian |
| 10:10.54 | panzone | oh xD thanks |
| 10:11.03 | mudler | you are welcome :) |
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| 10:11.16 | mudler | i saw the question yesterday, but i got internet problems huh |
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| 10:11.56 | mudler | sorry for the delay :P |
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| 10:28.29 | ice[9] | anyone here from OWASP ? |
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| 10:30.56 | neverpanic | !anyone | ice[9] |
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| 10:31.19 | ice[9] | !anyone | ice[9] |
| 10:31.31 | ice[9] | what's that? :P |
| 10:31.43 | ice[9] | !anyone |
| 10:31.44 | gsocbot | ice[9]: "anyone" is Instead of looking for mentors from specific projects here, you will likely get much better results by speaking to that mentoring organization directly. You can find an org's contact information via the org list at http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/org/list/public/google/gsoc2014 |
| 10:31.51 | darnir | ^That |
| 10:31.58 | ice[9] | ah.. |
| 10:32.08 | darnir | Except gsocbot is lagging a little too much right now. |
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| 10:32.23 | VarunAgw | !anyone | gsocbot |
| 10:32.24 | gsocbot | VarunAgw: "anyone" is Instead of looking for mentors from specific projects here, you will likely get much better results by speaking to that mentoring organization directly. You can find an org's contact information via the org list at http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/org/list/public/google/gsoc2014 |
| 10:33.10 | neverpanic | Or rather, some regex prevents it from answering to | ice[9] |
| 10:34.05 | neverpanic | consequently: |
| 10:34.07 | neverpanic | !botbugs |
| 10:34.07 | gsocbot | neverpanic: "botbugs" is Please report bot bugs and feature requests to https://github.com/kblin/supybot-gsoc/issues |
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| 10:34.39 | ice[9] | yes, but sadly OWASP's gsoc as well OWASP's channels are pretty gloomy right now.. :/ |
| 10:35.19 | ice[9] | !anyone | subhayan_ice9 |
| 10:35.19 | gsocbot | ice[9]: Error: No such user. |
| 10:35.20 | darnir | neverpanic: It did respond. Check your chat buffer. It's just lagging for some reason. Either it's client has high latencies or the machine is processing something else right now |
| 10:36.07 | Dragooon | Poor bot |
| 10:36.39 | ananasova | being tortured everyday with same questions all over again |
| 10:36.44 | Dragooon | Exactly |
| 10:36.50 | neverpanic | darnir: I don't see it responding to :30:56 or :31:19. It responded to :31:43, though. |
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| 10:38.25 | kblin | I think the actual problem is that there's a heck of a lot of factoids in an sqlite database |
| 10:38.32 | kblin | I need to clean up at some point |
| 10:38.43 | Dragooon | And add !sup |
| 10:38.49 | Dragooon | Where it replies with how it’s feeling |
| 10:39.15 | wiruzx | !next |
| 10:39.16 | gsocbot | wiruzx: "next" is The GSoC Community Bonding Period is now on. Students begin coding on 19 May, 2014 |
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| 10:41.51 | neverpanic | kblin: If you want some suggestions on facts that can be reomoved, there's !afterdedup, which would have been relevant in the last few days but wasn't used a single time. |
| 10:42.43 | neverpanic | actually, it's 'afterdup', sorry. |
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| 10:49.33 | VarunAgw | !numapps |
| 10:49.34 | gsocbot | VarunAgw: "numapps" is 2014: 190/371 orgs; 6313 proposals submitted by 4420 students. 2013: 177/417 orgs; 1192/5999 proposals (by 4144 students). 2012: 180/406 orgs; 1212/6685 proposals (by 4258 students). 2011: 175/417 orgs; 1116/5474 proposals (by 3731 students). 2010: 151/367 orgs; 1026/5539 proposals (by 3464 students). |
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| 11:17.09 | kaku | can same project be alloted to two different students ? |
| 11:18.04 | VarunAgw | yes |
| 11:20.54 | Dragooon | There’s a GSoC mailing list? |
| 11:21.41 | kaku | VarunAgw: how do u know ? |
| 11:21.51 | VarunAgw | FAQ |
| 11:21.58 | Dragooon | kaku: Yesterday this channel was flooded with same question |
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| 11:22.08 | Dragooon | So, yes. There can be multiple allocations for same project |
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| 11:23.35 | Nik_ | is there any email address of gsoc monitoring committee where i can email any complaints/suggestions ? |
| 11:23.51 | Dragooon | GSoC mailing list I guess? |
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| 11:24.10 | Nik_ | No any personal email |
| 11:24.51 | Dragooon | You can mail carol but probably only if it’s genuinly important. Since she’s pretty busy organising the event |
| 11:25.02 | kaku | Also while browsing the accepted projects i found something very interesting |
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| 11:25.51 | kaku | As we all know gsoc systers are open only for females |
| 11:26.00 | Nik_ | @Dragooon : Yes its important. Can you please give me Carol's contact? |
| 11:26.09 | kaku | but this time they accepted a male too |
| 11:26.21 | Dragooon | Nik_: carols@google.com I believe |
| 11:26.28 | Dragooon | kaku: What systers? |
| 11:26.29 | kaku | i don't know if it's by mistake or they amended their rules |
| 11:26.35 | Nik_ | thanks a lot |
| 11:26.48 | kblin | it's their choice, isn't it? |
| 11:26.51 | kaku | Dragooon: systers organisation |
| 11:27.16 | kaku | kblin: but most of male students don't apply because of the rules |
| 11:27.32 | Dragooon | Link? |
| 11:27.34 | kblin | so? |
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| 11:27.47 | test101 | !next |
| 11:27.48 | kaku | http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/project/details/google/gsoc2014/jayeshhyd/5144752345317376 |
| 11:27.48 | gsocbot | test101: "next" is The GSoC Community Bonding Period is now on. Students begin coding on 19 May, 2014 |
| 11:28.20 | kaku | kblin: I don't think it's fair |
| 11:28.24 | Dragooon | Ohh Syster’s a women IT forum |
| 11:28.28 | Dragooon | kaku: Why not? |
| 11:28.35 | PulkoMandy | kaku: reading their page, it doesn't seem they enforce that for GSoC students |
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| 11:28.53 | PulkoMandy | you can't join their org, but you can still do work for them |
| 11:29.58 | kaku | Dragooon: It's like "GNOME Outreach Program for Women" internship awarded to some dude :) |
| 11:30.04 | Dragooon | kaku: Nope |
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| 11:30.30 | Dragooon | Their GSoC program isn’t for women, their organisation is. Not the same thing |
| 11:31.37 | Dragooon | It’s not like they’re saying females only for their GSoC page |
| 11:31.43 | ananasova | we should ask the mentors, i remember in order to apply to GSoC at Systers, one must become a Systers member |
| 11:31.49 | kblin | look, it's their slot, they can do whatever they like with it |
| 11:32.10 | ananasova | and Systers members can be only females |
| 11:32.20 | PulkoMandy | ananasova: they ask for that in the application template, but I don't see anything that would make it mandatory |
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| 11:32.34 | Dragooon | ananasova: Fairly sure the mentors would’ve checked that before approving the student |
| 11:32.55 | Dragooon | If it really was a requirement |
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| 11:33.24 | ananasova | I am not saying they accept only females, just stating some facts. If a male was accepted, then so it must be :) |
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| 11:34.33 | pkp | !help |
| 11:34.34 | gsocbot | pkp: (help [<plugin>] [<command>]) -- This command gives a useful description of what <command> does. <plugin> is only necessary if the command is in more than one plugin. |
| 11:34.42 | kblin | !botabuse | pkp |
| 11:34.43 | gsocbot | pkp: "botabuse" is (#1) If you want to play with the bot, please do so in a private /query so as not to spam the channel, or (#2) When in a query with me, use whatis #gsoc <factoid> |
| 11:35.15 | Dragooon | Is there like a GSoC OT channel? |
| 11:35.19 | pkp | kblin, just wanted to know number of approved applications and stuff.. |
| 11:35.24 | pkp | forgot the right command. |
| 11:35.31 | kblin | !numapps |
| 11:35.33 | gsocbot | kblin: "numapps" is 2014: 190/371 orgs; 6313 proposals submitted by 4420 students. 2013: 177/417 orgs; 1192/5999 proposals (by 4144 students). 2012: 180/406 orgs; 1212/6685 proposals (by 4258 students). 2011: 175/417 orgs; 1116/5474 proposals (by 3731 students). 2010: 151/367 orgs; 1026/5539 proposals (by 3464 students). |
| 11:35.34 | Dragooon | pkp: !numapps |
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| 11:35.45 | pkp | !numapps |
| 11:35.45 | gsocbot | pkp: "numapps" is 2014: 190/371 orgs; 6313 proposals submitted by 4420 students. 2013: 177/417 orgs; 1192/5999 proposals (by 4144 students). 2012: 180/406 orgs; 1212/6685 proposals (by 4258 students). 2011: 175/417 orgs; 1116/5474 proposals (by 3731 students). 2010: 151/367 orgs; 1026/5539 proposals (by 3464 students). |
| 11:35.51 | panzone | and 1307 accepted students |
| 11:36.04 | kblin | feel free to adjust the factoid |
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| 11:38.10 | kaku | anyhow "Jayesh Lahori" is a lucky guy. 1 guy and 14 girls will certainly be a great summer for him :) |
| 11:38.52 | jayesh92 | 4 sure :P |
| 11:39.34 | kaku | See, he's already excited about it :) |
| 11:39.42 | kblin | and can we cut back on the locker room banter, please? |
| 11:39.42 | test101 | ^haha |
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| 11:41.16 | kblin | I hope that the systers students will have a great summer, but I don't see the male/female ratio being a relevant factor there |
| 11:42.12 | jayesh92 | ^ exactly, the only reqmnt systers has is that, only female's are allowed to be a member of systers-foundation |
| 11:42.23 | jayesh92 | no restriction for developers |
| 11:42.52 | Niharika | !learn numapps as 2014: 190/371 orgs; 1307/6313 proposals (by 4420 students). 2013: 177/417 orgs; 1192/5999 proposals (by 4144 students). 2012: 180/406 orgs; 1212/6685 proposals (by 4258 students). 2011: 175/417 orgs; 1116/5474 proposals (by 3731 students). 2010: 151/367 orgs; 1026/5539 proposals (by 3464 students). |
| 11:42.53 | gsocbot | Niharika: "numapps" is (#1) 2014: 190/371 orgs; 6313 proposals submitted by 4420 students. 2013: 177/417 orgs; 1192/5999 proposals (by 4144 students). 2012: 180/406 orgs; 1212/6685 proposals (by 4258 students). 2011: 175/417 orgs; 1116/5474 proposals (by 3731 students). 2010: 151/367 orgs; 1026/5539 proposals (by 3464 students)., or (#2) 2014: 190/371 orgs; 1307/6313 proposals (by 4420 (1 more message) |
| 11:43.09 | Niharika | !forget numapps 1 |
| 11:43.09 | gsocbot | Niharika: "numapps" is 2014: 190/371 orgs; 1307/6313 proposals (by 4420 students). 2013: 177/417 orgs; 1192/5999 proposals (by 4144 students). 2012: 180/406 orgs; 1212/6685 proposals (by 4258 students). 2011: 175/417 orgs; 1116/5474 proposals (by 3731 students). 2010: 151/367 orgs; 1026/5539 proposals (by 3464 students). |
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| 11:47.58 | soccer_ | nathanielmanista: Is it possible to have one mentor for two different proposals? |
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| 11:51.29 | sahutd | hi, i am an accepted gsoc2014 student, and i would like to contact carols. would you please let me know how i may contact him? |
| 11:51.45 | psychon | I'm curious: why do you want to contact her? |
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| 11:52.46 | darnir | soccer_: Yes. It's common for one person to be mentoring multiple projects |
| 11:52.55 | vivekvpandya | Tax related form for no US student is not an interactive PDF so after filling it Do we have to submit scanned copy? |
| 11:53.51 | vivekvpandya | please help |
| 11:54.03 | Dragooon | vivekvpandya: Yeah, that’ll be best I think |
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| 11:54.30 | vivekvpandya | ya and I think we have no other option |
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| 11:55.19 | vivekvpandya | what about printed name field in that form? |
| 11:55.37 | Dragooon | Printed means capital letters |
| 11:55.49 | darnir | ^ That. |
| 11:55.50 | vivekvpandya | do we have to edit this form first |
| 11:55.56 | Dragooon | No |
| 11:56.01 | Dragooon | Fill it like “SHITIZ” |
| 11:56.03 | Dragooon | In capital |
| 11:56.10 | vivekvpandya | ok |
| 11:56.18 | panzone | no, just write your complete name in capital letters |
| 11:56.32 | vivekvpandya | thanks |
| 11:56.35 | vivekvpandya | guys |
| 11:57.08 | vivekvpandya | just to confirm Address is my resident address? |
| 11:57.12 | vivekvpandya | right |
| 11:57.17 | Dragooon | Yup |
| 11:57.23 | vivekvpandya | ohk |
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| 11:59.03 | anshul_ | While opening Account in payoneer, I have to use email-address using which I signed up in gsoc or the email addres in my contacts information of GSOC |
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| 11:59.30 | panzone | your email address you signed up i think |
| 12:00.15 | Dragooon | used a single address |
| 12:00.33 | vivekvpandya | resident or email |
| 12:00.39 | vivekvpandya | or can include both |
| 12:00.54 | Dragooon | What? Residential address for the tax form |
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| 12:01.03 | vivekvpandya | yes |
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| 12:01.21 | anshul_ | panzone, I think should I go ahead with that , or wait for some more info |
| 12:01.32 | Dragooon | anshul_: Wait |
| 12:01.36 | darnir | thinks Dragooon was smart to do that |
| 12:01.47 | Dragooon | You should probably clarify this with an admin or something |
| 12:01.50 | Dragooon | thanks darnir |
| 12:02.41 | vivekvpandya | ya please some one ask to admin |
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| 12:03.19 | anshul_ | What about open two account for both email id, they will send on one of them |
| 12:03.33 | Dragooon | Well…maybe |
| 12:03.45 | Dragooon | But read Payoneer’s ToS about multiple accounts |
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| 12:04.18 | vivekvpandya | use only one email id which is used when sign up |
| 12:04.29 | vivekvpandya | they have already mentioned |
| 12:04.31 | vivekvpandya | that |
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| 12:06.30 | Dragooon | forgot to actually upload his tax form |
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| 12:09.27 | anshul_ | this is there statement "Please note that you must use the email address listed in your Melange profile to sign up for an account on Payoneer" |
| 12:10.26 | Dragooon | Hmm, yeah |
| 12:10.29 | anshul_ | In my milange profile contact email is listed not signed up in milange email |
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| 12:15.10 | Dragooon | anshul_: Well if you follow it to the letter it’d mean the original e-mail. But don’t quote me on this |
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| 12:17.31 | Turl_ | howdy :) |
| 12:17.58 | Turl_ | are there per country stats for GSoC? |
| 12:18.17 | Dragooon | Not yet |
| 12:18.20 | Dragooon | Gotta wait |
| 12:19.15 | panzone | uh, so exists a gosc accepted students mailing list ? how can i subscribe to it ? |
| 12:19.39 | Dragooon | panzone: It’s a private list, you’ll get an invitation I believe |
| 12:19.44 | kblin | you'll be automatically subscribed to it, might just take a little |
| 12:20.02 | panzone | ok, thanks |
| 12:20.27 | panzone | i' m going back to read documentations xD |
| 12:20.35 | Dragooon | Good! |
| 12:21.56 | Dragooon | will go sleep |
| 12:22.10 | Dragooon | Even though it’s 6 in the evening and I woke up at 2 |
| 12:22.13 | Dragooon | I gotta hibernate |
| 12:22.26 | jbisch | panzone: Try viewing https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/google-summer-of-code-students-list |
| 12:22.39 | jbisch | I was subscribed without email notification |
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| 12:23.29 | jbisch | make sure you are signed in with your google account when doing so |
| 12:23.37 | panzone | jbisch: seriously ? let' s see in my google groups |
| 12:24.26 | jbisch | um, yes I am serious. When I go to that URL I see a bunch of messages from past years |
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| 12:26.57 | panzone | uh, yes, i see it in my google groups |
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| 12:29.36 | amit_ | !numapps |
| 12:29.36 | gsocbot | amit_: "numapps" is 2014: 190/371 orgs; 1307/6313 proposals (by 4420 students). 2013: 177/417 orgs; 1192/5999 proposals (by 4144 students). 2012: 180/406 orgs; 1212/6685 proposals (by 4258 students). 2011: 175/417 orgs; 1116/5474 proposals (by 3731 students). 2010: 151/367 orgs; 1026/5539 proposals (by 3464 students). |
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| 12:42.00 | anshul_ | dies any one has link , where we can open payoneer gbt, link that gsoc has provided does not work for indians |
| 12:42.08 | anshul_ | *does |
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| 12:54.55 | Dragooon | anshul_: https://payouts.payoneer.com/partners/lp.aspx?token=5ca0cbac0e9d459db79d9e9abd2cda201F9E33B24D |
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| 12:57.55 | krishnaTejaY__ | !log |
| 12:57.55 | gsocbot | krishnaTejaY__: Error: You don't have the owner capability. If you think that you should have this capability, be sure that you are identified before trying again. The 'whoami' command can tell you if you're identified. |
| 12:58.02 | krishnaTejaY__ | !logs |
| 12:58.02 | gsocbot | krishnaTejaY__: "logs" is http://ibot.rikers.org/%23gsoc/ |
| 12:58.09 | soccer_ | darnir: Does that apply to new organizations as well ? |
| 12:58.30 | soccer_ | One person mentoring multiple projects* |
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| 13:00.12 | anshul_ | Dragooon, thanks |
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| 13:01.25 | Guest35117 | can anybody just confirm me that besides payoneer reg and tax related thing deadline to 28th apr. and 16th may, there nothing else to do... |
| 13:02.57 | PulkoMandy | Guest35117: maybe it's time to get in touch with your org and start working on your project... |
| 13:03.40 | Guest35117 | PulkoMandy: ya, I mean related to gsoc process registration and all |
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| 13:04.47 | Guest35117 | PulkoMandy: for now students are required to singup payoneer and submit tax form with deadline 16th may. anything else need to submit |
| 13:05.00 | PulkoMandy | I'm not student, I don't know |
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| 13:05.44 | Guest35117 | ok Dragooon just can you get me confirm about this. |
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| 13:20.56 | Guest35117 | fewcha: have you done payoneer reg. |
| 13:21.20 | fewcha | Guest35117: no, payoneer cards are not allowed in India |
| 13:22.08 | Guest35117 | i mean, i know that but you have to signup for other option via payoneer only |
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| 13:22.21 | VaticanCameos | fewcha: Don't we have to signup for global bank transfer service |
| 13:22.45 | fewcha | VaticanCameos: where is that written? |
| 13:23.07 | VaticanCameos | fewcha: Accepted students note in the dashboard->important documents I think |
| 13:23.17 | Guest35117 | VaticanCameos: we have to, and that too via payoneer only |
| 13:23.18 | VaticanCameos | Specifically mentioned that we have to use GBT |
| 13:23.28 | VaticanCameos | Since Payoneer services are unavailable in India |
| 13:23.34 | VaticanCameos | Too bad, we won't have a GSoC card to flaunt |
| 13:23.34 | VaticanCameos | ;p |
| 13:24.26 | Guest35117 | go via this link http://payouts.payoneer.com/partners/or.aspx?pid=DJYxRUStsMq3EKWpggmvRQ%3d%3d |
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| 13:27.35 | Dragooon | fewcha: Fairly sure they aren't |
| 13:27.56 | ice[9] | VaticanCameos maybe google has something special this time in the welcome package.. so don't worry about the card.. Google will make up for sometime.. |
| 13:28.05 | ice[9] | i am not saying anything else ;) |
| 13:28.27 | VaticanCameos | ice[9]: [suspense intensifies] |
| 13:28.54 | ice[9] | hold on to your seats and Code the summer away :D |
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| 13:29.53 | mwilkes|wrk | Hm, but is ice[9] a googler or a troll? The nick certainly points towards classic geekery, which is a good sign |
| 13:30.38 | ice[9] | oh no.. sorry i did not mention it earlier.. i am a student .. a really really optimistic student .. :D |
| 13:30.45 | mwilkes|wrk | hehe |
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| 13:30.54 | PulkoMandy | future googler then ? :p |
| 13:31.05 | mwilkes|wrk | ice[9]: There is usually something nice. There were socks one year ;) |
| 13:31.18 | mwilkes|wrk | I'm a lowly mentor, I get the leftovers once you lot have got first pick |
| 13:31.37 | ice[9] | PulkoMandy not sure of that.. but definitely a Google User :D |
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| 13:32.24 | ice[9] | mwilkes|wrk GOOGLE and OSS loves you ! |
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| 13:33.55 | mwilkes|wrk | ice[9]: What's your project? |
| 13:34.27 | ice[9] | OWASP, I am the crypto guy :P |
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| 13:34.34 | ice[9] | you? |
| 13:34.43 | mwilkes|wrk | ice[9], Ah cool. I work with Plone |
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| 13:36.07 | d33tah | i just read the mailing list and i feel like i'm missing something. what's payoneer? |
| 13:36.51 | ice[9] | maybe you should read the mail carols had sent out yesterday... |
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| 13:38.46 | d33tah | ice[9]: good point. |
| 13:40.33 | ice[9] | i need to unsubscribe from the mailing list till the first payments are made.. |
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| 13:41.26 | ice[9] | irc is such a wonderful place to discuss.. |
| 13:41.42 | ice[9] | wonder why people are not here.. |
| 13:42.57 | Dragooon | ice[9]: Cause spam! |
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| 13:44.23 | Dragooon | Anybody understands atomic quantum theory here? :P |
| 13:45.21 | VaticanCameos | Dragooon: I could link you up with a guy who probably does on Facebook ;p |
| 13:45.32 | ice[9] | atomic quantum theory... first time I heard of that.. :P |
| 13:45.53 | mwilkes|wrk | Dragooon: Probably, but that would be off-topic |
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| 13:47.43 | solistice | is it possible that confirmation mails aren't sent from payoneer atm? Not receiving one, registered 12 hours ago approx |
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| 13:54.38 | d33tah | i don't know what's up with you guys, my registration worked at the first attempt. |
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| 13:55.47 | anshul_ | I have opened two account in payoneer, need to open the third one with id I have sign up mangle, now its not showing the link where I signed up |
| 13:56.19 | anshul_ | I think they capture ip address or mac address to limit opening account |
| 13:56.31 | solistice | d33tah: you received a confirmation mail? |
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| 13:56.52 | stqism | anshul_: I'd try calling them directly. |
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| 13:57.43 | anshul_ | Yaa, I called them but did not work well, the guy was too much confused with himself |
| 13:58.11 | Dragooon | Why did you ipen two accounts? |
| 13:58.55 | d33tah | solistice: i received a mail telling me to wait a few days. |
| 13:58.56 | anshul_ | one was freelancer, another was for contact i mentioned in mangle, and third one i was trying for sign-up mail id |
| 13:59.22 | solistice | hmm, I received nothing |
| 13:59.36 | solistice | but there's nothing that could go wrong in the signup, really.. |
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| 14:00.46 | anshul_ | payoneer said me that there is no way to have more then one email-id in one account, person who want something like that can open multiple account, and then ask them to merge them |
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| 14:01.19 | anshul_ | solistice, I got there reply |
| 14:02.02 | solistice | well anshul_ I did not |
| 14:02.04 | solistice | no idea why |
| 14:02.24 | Dragooon | I didn’t get one either |
| 14:02.27 | Dragooon | But I can login to my account |
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| 14:04.03 | anshul_ | but it does not matter if i get reply, i was unable to register with email id that i have signed-up. |
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| 14:06.25 | KK4MGV | !next |
| 14:06.26 | gsocbot | KK4MGV: "next" is The GSoC Community Bonding Period is now on. Students begin coding on 19 May, 2014 |
| 14:08.19 | Arthur_D | "No, mr. Community, I expect you to bond." |
| 14:09.29 | gevaerts | Arthur_D: you're only the seventh to make that joke! |
| 14:09.59 | Arthur_D | yes, I'm horribly unoriginal, I know |
| 14:10.32 | gevaerts | considered saying "oh" twice before pointing that out, but he decided against it |
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| 14:11.26 | mwilkes|wrk | gevaerts: 'double oh', not 'oh oh' |
| 14:11.34 | Arthur_D | :D |
| 14:11.43 | gevaerts | mwilkes|wrk: oh... |
| 14:11.47 | gevaerts | apologises |
| 14:12.16 | mwilkes|wrk | Quite. You be careful or I'll drink all the beer next week and leave you none |
| 14:12.36 | gevaerts | mwilkes|wrk: in my defense, I was thinking of the character in Asterix called Zérozérosix |
| 14:12.57 | ashepelev | Hello. I have a question about the tax form. Is it the same as Foreign Certification Form if I'm not U.S. student? |
| 14:13.09 | Dragooon | ashepelev: Yeah |
| 14:13.40 | ashepelev | So I need to fill it, scan and apply as I did the same with enrollment form? |
| 14:14.22 | Dragooon | ashepelev: Yeah |
| 14:16.50 | ashepelev | Dragooon: thanks |
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| 14:23.48 | carols | serves some coffee and tea |
| 14:24.12 | Dragooon | drinks the coffee |
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| 14:24.47 | Dragooon | proceeds towards the tea |
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| 14:26.12 | VaticanCameos | http://thejoyofpython.wordpress.com/2014/04/22/regarding-payoneer-for-indian-students/ |
| 14:26.23 | VaticanCameos | That should settle it. Better than crowding the mailing list. |
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| 14:27.36 | Dragooon | VaticanCameos: You should specify that Banks also take a certain cut for currency conversion |
| 14:27.39 | Dragooon | Depends upon the bank |
| 14:27.46 | mwilkes|wrk | gsocbot: learn india as Some hints for payoneer in India can be found at http://thejoyofpython.wordpress.com/2014/04/22/regarding-payoneer-for-indian-students/ |
| 14:27.46 | gsocbot | mwilkes|wrk: "india" is Some hints for payoneer in India can be found at http://thejoyofpython.wordpress.com/2014/04/22/regarding-payoneer-for-indian-students/ |
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| 14:29.39 | Dragooon | VaticanCameos: Also, if you see Pricing and Fees via the My Account link in your Payoneer account, it says there’s $0 fees for LBT to India? |
| 14:29.42 | Dragooon | What gives? |
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| 14:31.25 | VaticanCameos | Dragooon: I'm rather confused about that too. |
| 14:31.38 | VaticanCameos | I just added what the students were discussing into one post for easy reference. |
| 14:32.08 | Dragooon | I’m gonna go with $0 fees :P |
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| 14:32.29 | VaticanCameos | Dragooon: Too much to hope for, but that would be nice, yes ;p |
| 14:33.06 | VaticanCameos | Paypal also has zero fees when transferring to Indian banks. Perhaps Payoneer is under the same rule? |
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| 14:33.35 | Dragooon | VaticanCameos: PayPal already has enough fees to not warrant an additional withdrawal fees :P |
| 14:33.39 | gevaerts | Find me a service that does international money transfers that does *not* charge between 1.5% and 5% |
| 14:33.51 | Dragooon | gevaerts: Skrill |
| 14:34.02 | thiago | ripple.com |
| 14:34.26 | PulkoMandy | bitcoins? |
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| 14:34.32 | Dragooon | Haha, was about to say the same |
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| 14:35.41 | PulkoMandy | now, find one that works in all the countries involved in GSoC. Much less easy |
| 14:36.16 | Dragooon | Sure, the confusion is what Payoneer actually charges |
| 14:36.22 | Dragooon | They say $15 but on their official Indian page it’s $0 |
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| 14:36.55 | PulkoMandy | does a $15 difference matter that much? |
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| 14:37.12 | Dragooon | PulkoMandy: Haha no, but people keep asking |
| 14:38.26 | Dragooon | Anything under $100 seems fair to me |
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| 14:39.37 | heller | did google stop sending those pre paid visa cards from citibank? |
| 14:39.39 | stqism | gevaerts: With PulkoMandy here, that's exactly what bitcoin solves. |
| 14:39.42 | stqism | heller: Correct |
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| 14:40.03 | heller | ohh, those were awesome |
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| 14:40.21 | stqism | As I hear, you'll still get a card. Just not from citibank |
| 14:40.33 | heller | ok |
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| 14:41.16 | Dragooon | They were beautiful cards |
| 14:41.33 | VarunAgw | Hi VaticanCameos |
| 14:41.59 | VaticanCameos | Hello VarunAgw |
| 14:42.00 | carols | heller: by far the most complained about part of the entire program was those cards. |
| 14:42.07 | carols | so i’m fine sacrificing beauty for functionality |
| 14:42.13 | Dragooon | :( |
| 14:42.14 | VarunAgw | Did you wrote this? http://thejoyofpython.wordpress.com/2014/04/22/regarding-payoneer-for-indian-students/ |
| 14:42.20 | VarunAgw | VaticanCameos, ^ |
| 14:42.48 | heller | carols: i See. Makes sense |
| 14:42.53 | Dragooon | I want one of those lovely transparent cards |
| 14:42.58 | shivanshu | payoneer website seems to be really broken |
| 14:43.11 | shivanshu | they redirect me to wrong pages based on the cookie |
| 14:43.11 | Dragooon | The one my bank makes is like blueish red or something |
| 14:43.17 | VaticanCameos | VarunAgw: Yes I did |
| 14:43.41 | shivanshu | anyone else having the same problems? |
| 14:43.46 | VarunAgw | VaticanCameos, Where did you saw "For transfer as USD, the charges are flat $15 per transaction"? |
| 14:43.46 | mwilkes|wrk | stqism: I think Google buying almost $3m worth of bitcoin miiiiight just affect the exchange rate right now? |
| 14:44.03 | VaticanCameos | VarunAgw: A guy called Teja posted it on the mailing list |
| 14:44.04 | stqism | mwilkes|wrk: Where did that rumor come from? |
| 14:44.16 | mwilkes|wrk | stqism: me, about 20 seconds ago |
| 14:44.31 | stqism | mwilkes|wrk: Ohhhhh, valid point |
| 14:44.39 | VarunAgw | oh, but it is not true. There is no transer fees. https://payouts.payoneer.com/webapps/methodregistration/fees.aspx?country=IN&pid=DJYxRUStsMq3EKWpggmvRQ%3d%3d&langid=1&sessionid=5qkt01fiyysakfdwkoubi14k&processor_type=1&ProcessorTypeId=1 |
| 14:44.41 | Dragooon | mwilkes|wrk: Eh, trying to affect the prices on your own? |
| 14:45.07 | VaticanCameos | VarunAgw: I've seen that too. |
| 14:45.18 | mwilkes|wrk | To be honest, I don't care about bitcoin, I just want payments for my students to be as painless as possible so they're not worrying about it |
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| 14:46.42 | stqism | mwilkes|wrk: What an admirable goal |
| 14:47.02 | Dragooon | mwilkes|wrk: Still, Google pays in Bitcoins, ends up raising the prices. Two weeks later, BTC crashes and students are poor again :P |
| 14:47.51 | stqism | Dragooon: This issue is mitigated if you use bitcoin as your base currency :) |
| 14:48.19 | Dragooon | stqism: Not really, since most things are priced relative to BTC <-> USD. Things, even priced in BTC, will rise |
| 14:48.34 | Manishearth | heh |
| 14:49.15 | Manishearth | Btw, for those of you worrying about the Payoneer 3% fees for transferring to INR (or whatever), it doesn't make a big difference |
| 14:49.16 | stqism | Dragooon: In a world where btc can be used to purchase things, at a static price, we'd get a situation like USD <-> CAD. The values change yet my money never feels like it's worth less. In a perfect world |
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| 14:49.36 | Manishearth | SInce if you're going to convert them to INR later you'd be charged a comparable amount |
| 14:49.47 | ashepelev | Hello again. Sorry for annoying. There's a deadline for payoneer registering (till 28 Apr). I've registered and got the mail that's it's OK and my card will be shipped at about 20 May. So is it OK that I don't recieve it before 28 Apr? |
| 14:49.57 | carols | ashepelev: thats fine |
| 14:49.59 | Dragooon | stqism: Yeah, but that’s far away if ever |
| 14:50.03 | amoghbl1 | !numapps |
| 14:50.04 | gsocbot | amoghbl1: "numapps" is 2014: 190/371 orgs; 1307/6313 proposals (by 4420 students). 2013: 177/417 orgs; 1192/5999 proposals (by 4144 students). 2012: 180/406 orgs; 1212/6685 proposals (by 4258 students). 2011: 175/417 orgs; 1116/5474 proposals (by 3731 students). 2010: 151/367 orgs; 1026/5539 proposals (by 3464 students). |
| 14:50.04 | carols | you need to have registered by 28 apr |
| 14:50.16 | Manishearth | It only makes sense to receive in USD if you want to use the money in USD |
| 14:50.21 | kblin | hey carols |
| 14:50.25 | carols | hi kblin |
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| 14:50.52 | Dragooon | Manishearth: True, but banks are generally 1-1.5% so that’ll be generally better |
| 14:50.56 | stqism | Dragooon: I'm rather curious what will happen, adoption would make transferring money to an Indian student here a breeze |
| 14:50.58 | Dragooon | It’ll still end up around ~$100 |
| 14:51.18 | stqism | Dragooon: 1% is still a horrible rate, it's damn robbery |
| 14:51.21 | kblin | Niharika: thanks for updating the numapps factoid, btw |
| 14:51.34 | Dragooon | stqism: Where can you possibly find a lower conversion rate? |
| 14:51.47 | ashepelev | carols: thanks |
| 14:51.53 | carols | yw |
| 14:52.09 | stqism | Dragooon: And that's the problem, you can't. |
| 14:52.20 | carols | hey folks, want to take this to a PM or something? |
| 14:52.27 | stqism | carols: Of course, sorry! |
| 14:52.29 | Dragooon | stqism: #gsoc-india |
| 14:52.31 | carols | np |
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| 14:52.44 | Manishearth | np, sorry about that :) |
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| 14:55.44 | Abhishek_ | carols: Have the welcome kits been marked for dispatch ? |
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| 14:55.49 | carols | Abhishek_: yep! |
| 14:55.58 | carols | labels are printing now |
| 14:56.06 | carols | i’m glad it’s going so fast this year |
| 14:56.08 | carols | previous years were really slow |
| 14:56.18 | Abhishek_ | I actually have a last minute address change. Wonder if you had received my mail |
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| 14:56.46 | carols | Abhishek_: maybe i did, but it wouldn’t matter. it’s being sent to the address on file for Shipping Address when you were accepted into the program yesterday |
| 14:57.09 | nilspin | um, what "welcome kits"? |
| 14:57.30 | amoghbl1 | ^ exactly |
| 14:57.30 | carols | nilspin: it’s described in your acceptance email. if you’re not a student, you needn’t worry |
| 14:57.32 | Abhishek_ | carols: Is there a possibility of change, as I would be leaving home for the vacations, and I had given my school address actually. |
| 14:57.51 | carols | Abhishek_: not at this point. if it ships and is returned to us you’ll be contacted for a new address then |
| 14:58.15 | Abhishek_ | what shipping method would you be using |
| 14:58.21 | carols | Abhishek_: fedex |
| 14:58.47 | Dragooon | Yay <3 fedex |
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| 14:59.05 | Abhishek_ | if they could reach me by 30th, it's fine. It would be a problem after that. Ah, so I guess I would receive it then! |
| 14:59.36 | nilspin | admits he didn't read the entire mail properly |
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| 14:59.55 | carols | nilspin: the only reason i have a job is because people don’t read emails or FAQs |
| 15:00.30 | Dragooon | carols: What about the tea and coffee? |
| 15:00.41 | carols | Dragooon: that too, but downey can take care of that |
| 15:00.59 | downey | could never make a cup of tea as good as carol |
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| 15:01.25 | amoghbl1 | wait, they've already been shipped? |
| 15:01.48 | carols | amoghbl1: not shipped. but they are sitting in the warehouse getting their stickers for shipment put on them now |
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| 15:01.59 | carols | they should be shipped by friday |
| 15:02.17 | amoghbl1 | lemme check how long fedex takes... |
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| 15:02.50 | Dragooon | amoghbl1: 3-5 days by my experience |
| 15:02.58 | Dragooon | Or 2 days if they’re using express |
| 15:03.02 | Dragooon | is in India |
| 15:03.17 | amoghbl1 | som am I Dragooon |
| 15:03.22 | downey | carols: wait, the labels aren't being hand-lettered in calligraphy this year? :) |
| 15:03.30 | carols | downey: not this year :-) |
| 15:03.48 | astrofrog | carols: just to check, it's safe to contact accepted students now, right? |
| 15:04.02 | carols | astrofrog: yes, and thank you for checking. |
| 15:04.06 | astrofrog | carols: thanks! |
| 15:04.13 | carols | cheers |
| 15:04.26 | Dragooon | They were hand lettered ever? |
| 15:04.42 | Abhishek_ | is that the reason it took time? |
| 15:04.50 | Manishearth | wonders if we are getting tea shipped |
| 15:05.10 | downey | Manishearth: the customs agents always steal the tea it seems |
| 15:05.26 | Abhishek_ | even in FedEX? |
| 15:05.42 | Manishearth | whaaat |
| 15:05.57 | downey | the good news is we're planning to add tea to the chocolate room at this year's reunion summit |
| 15:06.07 | Manishearth | :o |
| 15:06.08 | Dragooon | doesn’t get to see the summit |
| 15:06.16 | Abhishek_ | why? |
| 15:06.22 | Manishearth | chocolate tea, even |
| 15:06.23 | kblin | say, is that me or is melange not showing any projects? |
| 15:06.29 | somaen | ´set the filter to all |
| 15:06.30 | Manishearth | kblin: not just you |
| 15:06.30 | downey | Manishearth: I love cocoa tea |
| 15:06.40 | somaen | the melange filter defaults to reviewable |
| 15:06.46 | somaen | no projects are reviewable anymore. |
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| 15:06.48 | Manishearth | I thought that might be shown after the project period starts |
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| 15:07.06 | Manishearth | there's a filter? /me pokes |
| 15:07.27 | kblin | somaen: ah, thanks |
| 15:07.30 | somaen | or are you talking about the public page? |
| 15:07.38 | somaen | I'm talking about the "proposals" page for mentors. |
| 15:07.39 | carols | kblin: it depends on what page you mean, but i have already filed this: https://code.google.com/p/soc/issues/detail?id=2191 |
| 15:07.40 | kblin | Manishearth: that's for the proposals, but also useful |
| 15:07.48 | Dragooon | Abhishek_: I’m not a mentor |
| 15:08.12 | somaen | Accepted projects on the front page also works |
| 15:08.14 | Manishearth | kblin: oh, not talking about that. I have a Projects link on my dashboard, which is empty |
| 15:08.16 | kblin | carols: looks like that's what I mean |
| 15:08.22 | downey | Dragooon: All current and former students and mentors are invited to the summit this year, supposedly |
| 15:08.23 | Manishearth | Yeah, accepted projects works fine |
| 15:08.25 | carols | okay |
| 15:08.28 | kblin | Manishearth: yeah, that's the bug carol mentioned |
| 15:08.39 | downey | Dragooon: details TBA |
| 15:08.43 | somaen | _ALL_ current and former students and mentors? |
| 15:08.44 | kblin | carols: thanks, I've starred it :) |
| 15:08.44 | Dragooon | oooo |
| 15:08.55 | carols | :-) |
| 15:09.03 | somaen | starts to wonder where you'd fit all those people |
| 15:09.04 | Abhishek_ | ah great :) |
| 15:09.13 | downey | somaen: California. |
| 15:09.20 | Dragooon | somaen: Probably have to bare their own expenses |
| 15:09.24 | Manishearth | somaen: Google has a secret bunker underneath Area 51 where they can fill a whole country |
| 15:09.25 | Dragooon | bear? |
| 15:09.26 | Dragooon | beer? |
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| 15:09.37 | Manishearth | beir |
| 15:09.39 | Abhishek_ | lol |
| 15:09.48 | somaen | I think beer is the least of the worries cost wise. |
| 15:09.53 | Manishearth | lol |
| 15:09.54 | downey | I heard a rumor about a bear hiding in the trees at the Wild Palms last year ... never confirmed it |
| 15:10.09 | kblin | downey: a dropbear? |
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| 15:10.28 | downey | kblin: that might have been it, i was far away from the conversation :-) |
| 15:11.03 | somaen | I never saw a public announcement about "all former and current students and mentors though", but then again, I've been drowning in information lately. |
| 15:11.13 | Manishearth | somaen: the initial blog post |
| 15:11.18 | downey | kblin: could have been more like "the dropbear team is over by the trees" and not "there's a small bear over by the trees" |
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| 15:11.38 | Manishearth | somaen: http://google-opensource.blogspot.in/2013/10/google-code-in-2013-and-google-summer.html |
| 15:12.11 | kblin | downey: it's a small ssh server, so it might be a small team ;) |
| 15:12.22 | downey | indeed :) |
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| 15:13.38 | somaen | Manishearth: What I read from that is an "event" for students, and a summit for mentors. |
| 15:13.52 | carols | somaen: they are the same thing. |
| 15:14.17 | downey | somaen: Some people have been students AND mentors. :-) |
| 15:14.29 | somaen | raises a hand in that category |
| 15:14.40 | darnir | shouts, "Me too!" |
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| 15:14.46 | ilv | hi, when are t-shirts delivered? |
| 15:14.52 | d33tah | 26 unread messages. yay. turning off notifications on the "GSoC mailing list" filter till the payoneer problem calms down sounds like a good decision ;) |
| 15:15.06 | MisterA | the sign up page of payoneer appears to be borked, the sign up buttons aren't working |
| 15:15.06 | somaen | ilv: Previous years, they were delivered after GSoC completed IIRC. |
| 15:15.15 | carols | ilv: once you’ve passed the midterm, final evaluations and submitted yoru completed code |
| 15:15.17 | carols | *your |
| 15:15.55 | somaen | So basically at some point after you've been payed all the money for GSoC |
| 15:16.08 | darnir | Yes |
| 15:16.29 | somaen | (Given that you're a student, and not a mentor) |
| 15:16.51 | darnir | I think mentors get a Tshirt too. At about the same time.. |
| 15:17.07 | somaen | yeah, but mentors won't get any money. |
| 15:17.16 | ilv | ok thanks. According to the FAQ I won't get a t-shirt (I live in Chile). Is it possible you could send it to someone I know in the US so he could send it to me? just wondering :p |
| 15:17.17 | MisterA | should I try to sign up using a different browser or something? the sign up buttons aren't working in firefox |
| 15:17.19 | somaen | (well, the orgs do) |
| 15:17.27 | carols | somaen: the mentors get money. its the orgs who decide if they *give* it to the mentors. |
| 15:17.48 | carols | ilv: why not…go code something and worry about that in…2 months? |
| 15:17.58 | carols | the tshirts haven’t even been made yet |
| 15:17.58 | somaen | carols: Yeah, but in the case of a student, they will get money, and they won't get a t-shirt if they don't get all the money. |
| 15:18.13 | carols | somaen: that’s true. but that means they failed, so they don’t deserve either |
| 15:18.34 | somaen | Yeah, just noting that the criteria are the same, and that the money is likely to arrive before the t-shirt. |
| 15:18.41 | downey | carols: gold-leaf and diamond bling t-shirts this year, right? |
| 15:18.44 | carols | somaen: correct |
| 15:18.49 | ilv | carols: yeah, just clearing doubts. thanks |
| 15:18.52 | carols | downey: that sounds terrible. |
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| 15:19.10 | MisterA | the card option works, the bank account option doesn't |
| 15:19.13 | MisterA | that's strange |
| 15:19.24 | carols | somaen: i’m surprised you’re saying getting money fast is a *bad* thing |
| 15:19.31 | somaen | No, I'm not |
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| 15:20.07 | downey | carols: i was thinking something like http://goo.gl/OjGxzt |
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| 15:20.14 | somaen | And well, my statement depends on nothing having changed since I was a student in 2012 |
| 15:20.24 | amoghbl1 | hey carols , do we get shipping numers? |
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| 15:20.27 | somaen | FedEx was quite a bit slower than Citibank |
| 15:20.30 | amoghbl1 | *numbers |
| 15:20.35 | Dragooon | carols: Of coure, the faster you get money the faster you spend |
| 15:20.38 | MisterA | can anyone who's registered already confirm if the bank account option works or not? I'm having no luck with it |
| 15:20.40 | Dragooon | Then faster you end up being poor again |
| 15:20.41 | carols | amoghbl1: well, that depends on if the melange code is working. would you like to check it? |
| 15:21.07 | darnir | Oh there are shipping codes this year.. That's nice.. :) |
| 15:21.26 | downey | wonders if time would be better spent bonding with a community (a pre-requisite for getting the money) rather than worrying about payment cards |
| 15:21.42 | amoghbl1 | well, the link is dead currently so I'm guessing they're updating it... Thanks carols ! |
| 15:21.51 | Dragooon | downey: We should spend the community bonding hosting the summit and then having GSoC |
| 15:21.59 | Dragooon | That way we get free food |
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| 15:22.50 | downey | Dragooon: no such thing as a free lunch :-) |
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| 15:23.11 | carols | downey: that’s far too sensible. the students would rather freak out about tshirts |
| 15:23.36 | Dragooon | downey: You just destroyed my concept of Google |
| 15:23.44 | Dragooon | They had so much food I almost passed out |
| 15:23.52 | Dragooon | And then they had some more |
| 15:24.01 | downey | Dragooon: my impression is the mentor summit food was "paid" by the blood sweat and tears of the mentors :) |
| 15:24.16 | downey | Dragooon: that just means there was a lot of blood sweat and tears :) |
| 15:24.19 | darnir | This reminds me of a phrase one of my colleagues often uses, "People understand NOTHING" |
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| 15:24.34 | downey | carols: i have my lapses of sensibility |
| 15:24.45 | ilv | are there gsoc-country mailing lists where I can contact people that have participated before to clear some doubts (tax form, etc) |
| 15:24.47 | Dragooon | downey: Must be having a LOT of food then |
| 15:25.10 | darnir | ilv: Usually yes. Ask around for your country |
| 15:25.16 | downey | ilv: be careful about getting tax advice from strangers. |
| 15:25.54 | diadara | carols: does the tracking option in melange work this year or should we expect where is my package mails ? |
| 15:26.10 | kremlin- | carols is really kicking ass and staying on top of everything. way more patience than i'd have :) |
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| 15:26.38 | MisterA | i'd have broken down by the 200 emails received point |
| 15:26.39 | somaen | Taxes were indeed a bit of a hassle to figure out, and in my case, it was a bit irritating to hold the money for a full year, as tax-payment happened the following year, in september. |
| 15:26.49 | ilv | darnir: you mean ask in the google-summer-of-code-students-list? |
| 15:26.58 | ilv | downey: i'll keep that in mind |
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| 15:27.07 | darnir | Or here.. |
| 15:27.14 | darnir | ilv: You can do it in either place. |
| 15:27.16 | carols | diadara: i don’t know, that’s up the melange developers if they got the code working |
| 15:27.20 | somaen | The preferable thing is to ask an accountant in your country |
| 15:27.35 | darnir | ^ That's what I did |
| 15:27.47 | ilv | alright, thanks |
| 15:28.06 | somaen | Oh, and the way the money comes to you MIGHT be a bit tricky to pidgeon-hole. |
| 15:28.31 | somaen | So, you might actually REALLY want to ask someone knowledgeable about tax-rules for your country. |
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| 15:28.36 | darnir | Especially with the new payzoone (or whatever it is called) thingy |
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| 15:29.00 | kremlin- | im really glad to see google didn't go with paypal |
| 15:29.03 | kremlin- | such a mess |
| 15:29.29 | somaen | IIRC, I ended up adding a comment to my tax-returns to make sure I didn't screw up anything, but YMMV, and IANAL. |
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| 15:29.35 | vytas | haha, bitcoins the way to go :) |
| 15:29.43 | darnir | Paypal has lots of issues in various countries across the world. Especially in India. But that is mostly because of the central bank there |
| 15:30.05 | MisterA | vytas: if you enjoy losing money :P |
| 15:30.05 | diadara | kremlin-: payoneer is no better than melange at the moment can't even login their forget password doesn't work |
| 15:30.08 | somaen | also, you are likely to live in a different country than me, so any advice from me would be moot (and I hereby declare any of my advice to be worthless and risky to follow) |
| 15:30.23 | MisterA | diadara: the sign up button doesn't work either right now |
| 15:30.24 | MisterA | lol |
| 15:30.47 | kremlin- | paypal also have a 1-strike policy considering their customer service is impenetrable |
| 15:31.00 | Dragooon | darnir: PayPal has the tendency to block random transactions, especially if new accounts are receiving $2000+ suddenly |
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| 15:31.18 | darnir | Which is everyone here.. |
| 15:31.30 | Dragooon | Precisely |
| 15:31.39 | darnir | I never bothered with Paypal. There are many other good options around. |
| 15:31.50 | panzone | like what ? |
| 15:32.01 | darnir | Payoneer might actually turn out to be a nice option. |
| 15:32.03 | kremlin- | dwolla is pretty cool |
| 15:32.07 | carols | diadara MisterA: if you’re having trouble with payoneer please email them. complaining about it here isn’t going to get the problem fixed |
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| 15:32.13 | panzone | this could be useful aside from gsoc |
| 15:32.19 | Dragooon | I use PayPal but for selling a simple mod |
| 15:32.33 | Dragooon | Rest is preferably SWIFT |
| 15:32.37 | darnir | They are probably not used to this kind of traffic. |
| 15:33.13 | darnir | Oh I think SWIFT transfers directly might be the best. But then Google has to take all the trouble. that's why they outsource that to Payoneer. |
| 15:33.18 | darnir | Or that's what I think |
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| 15:33.56 | Dragooon | Payoneer handles SWIFT transfers so that’s well as well |
| 15:34.04 | somaen | So, no more Citibank? |
| 15:34.07 | darnir | While the CitiBank cards looked cool and were amazing to flaunt, they were a horrible hassle to work with. I'm glad those are gone. |
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| 15:34.31 | somaen | Well, there was the withdrawal fees on them, those were a bummer |
| 15:34.39 | darnir | Especially in Europe where those magnetic strips cannot be used in most places. |
| 15:35.05 | somaen | But, there's also the foreign-currency transaction fees on bank-transfers, that I guess will amount to something similar. |
| 15:35.06 | Turl | somaen: these cards also have a withdrawal fee I think |
| 15:35.22 | Dragooon | Oh btw, citi charged like 5% currency conversion last time I used them :P |
| 15:35.38 | carols | sending money internationally is hard. |
| 15:35.41 | carols | let’s move on |
| 15:35.49 | Turl | hi carols |
| 15:35.53 | carols | hi Turl |
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| 15:36.00 | Turl | carols: what's the topic for the student list I've been subscribed to? |
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| 15:36.22 | kremlin- | wow, someone got greg kroah-hartman as a mentor. that's pretty incredible |
| 15:36.28 | carols | Turl: discussions about things specific to gsoc students and/or concerns about your project or mentors. |
| 15:36.32 | somaen | for one would actually send a thanks for finding a way that actually works. |
| 15:36.51 | carols | Turl: reminders for the program milestones, etc.. |
| 15:36.53 | kblin | kremlin-: so? |
| 15:37.37 | kblin | kremlin-: that's the great thing about OSS. once you actually contribute, you'll find that most of the "famous" people are actually pretty approachable |
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| 15:38.16 | Turl | kblin: +1 |
| 15:38.19 | snizzo | hi everyone, will we receive the welcome package also this year or not? :) |
| 15:38.20 | kremlin- | oh yeah, for sure. i've seen his videos and he seems like a hilarious and awesome guy |
| 15:38.41 | kremlin- | i just think it's cool he's spending the time to do this |
| 15:38.41 | kblin | kremlin-: arguably I remember my first visit to SambaXP in 2006, where the Samba team invited me out to dinner and I was sitting betwen a bunch of people who all had written books that I owned :) |
| 15:38.52 | Turl | carols: ok. I just didn't want to get muted :) |
| 15:39.10 | kblin | I was a bit star-struck myself there |
| 15:39.13 | carols | Turl: then don’t post there, just read the emails from me. |
| 15:39.13 | kblin | but you get used to it |
| 15:39.19 | carols | that’s a good way to solve the problem |
| 15:39.25 | Turl | carols: are you the only one doing announcements? I'll probably just filter your emails and tag-archive the rest |
| 15:39.39 | kremlin- | kblin: haha, nice. i plan on dropping by the FSF next time i'm in boston hope i see some rockstars while i'm there |
| 15:39.40 | carols | Turl: me and my colleagues from the OSPO team, yes |
| 15:39.49 | kblin | Turl: pro-tip: filter out all @google.com mails and read those, ignore the rest ;) |
| 15:40.04 | Turl | carols: kblin, great, thanks |
| 15:40.20 | Turl | goes to write some email filters |
| 15:40.25 | kblin | that's what I'm doing with the mentors list as well when I'm short on time |
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| 15:40.49 | kblin | and the signal/noise ration on the student's list is worse, iirc |
| 15:41.27 | carols | every year.. |
| 15:41.30 | carols | sigh |
| 15:41.32 | amoghbl1 | hey carols , the shipment tracking page is up! |
| 15:41.37 | carols | amoghbl1: great! |
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| 15:41.51 | Dragooon | Yaya melange’s code works |
| 15:42.16 | Turl | carols's emails seem to have a weird From: header |
| 15:42.23 | Manishearth | I agree with kblin , kremlin- --- A few days ago I had a chat with Asa Dotzler and a month ago with Brendan Eich. A few years ago (back when I was active on Wikipedia), Jimmy Wales. It's really awesome :D |
| 15:42.42 | Manishearth | Turl: She sends them via some appspot magic iirc |
| 15:42.50 | Manishearth | at least, that's what the email looks like |
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| 15:43.45 | kremlin- | Manishearth: nice! |
| 15:44.09 | Manishearth | And I've heard that Torvalds is very approachable too. |
| 15:44.15 | Manishearth | If you're in the Linux community |
| 15:44.18 | kremlin- | i was pleasantly surprised to see my mentor had written the /etc/rc.shutdown configuration while i was configuring my openbsd install |
| 15:44.27 | Manishearth | heh :) |
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| 15:44.45 | kremlin- | ohohohoh, linus, i'd be pretty intimidated to talk to him |
| 15:44.46 | downey | Turl: What do you mean, weird "from" header? |
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| 15:45.01 | Manishearth | kremlin-: He's actually pretty chatty on Google Plus |
| 15:45.45 | kblin | shrugs |
| 15:45.59 | kblin | I didn't like Linux much at Linux.conf.eu |
| 15:46.13 | kblin | er Linus.. |
| 15:46.52 | Turl | downey: From: "'Carol Smith <carols at goog>' via Google Summer of Code Students List" <google blah blah googlegroups> |
| 15:47.00 | kblin | he was a bit of a jerk in some of the talks. James Bottomley's talk about git, for example |
| 15:47.03 | Turl | (emails redacted) |
| 15:47.06 | Manishearth | hm. Never met him in person, just been part of large conversations on G+. I plan toget involved in Linux later though |
| 15:47.21 | downey | Turl: Interesting. I've seen that on my org's mailing lists and have a support case open with Google about the same thing. Maybe it's bigger than just my org's lists. :-) |
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| 15:47.51 | downey | Turl: anyway, thanks for mentioning that, just made my life a little less stressful |
| 15:47.53 | Manishearth | Turl: yeah, so she's sending emails via googlegroups (or something), and her name is set to be that |
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| 15:47.57 | kblin | nice enough in direct conversations :) |
| 15:48.00 | MisterA | kblin: have you ever talked to stubborn svn users about git? that's usually how it goes |
| 15:48.09 | carols | really? |
| 15:48.13 | carols | we need to be discussing my emails? |
| 15:48.14 | kremlin- | i think alan cox put it best when he said the person chiefly responsible for maintaining a kernel SHOULD be an asshole |
| 15:48.19 | carols | we have nothing better to talk about? |
| 15:48.24 | Manishearth | tea? :) |
| 15:48.33 | Dragooon | How about Physics? |
| 15:48.36 | kremlin- | see: theo deraadt |
| 15:48.45 | Manishearth | is a physics major |
| 15:48.46 | Turl | carols: it's hard to make email filters :) |
| 15:48.52 | Manishearth | that^ |
| 15:48.58 | downey | carols: not you, just a weird bug in google groups lately |
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| 15:49.05 | carols | Turl: great, something to take out of this channel as it has nothing to do with the program |
| 15:49.16 | carols | don’t you all have communities to be bonding with? |
| 15:49.29 | Dragooon | We multitask! |
| 15:49.37 | gauravb7090 | carols: if I have some problem regarding registration whom should I contact? I wanted to create a payoneer bank account but the link is not working I guess |
| 15:49.49 | carols | gauravb7090: payoneer customer service. |
| 15:49.50 | MisterA | gauravb7090: it appears to be down for everyone |
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| 15:49.57 | carols | please email them |
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| 15:50.05 | carols | otherwise they won’t know it’s a problem |
| 15:50.08 | Manishearth | Dragooon: this is my IRC right now: http://i.stack.imgur.com/daW9T.png |
| 15:50.09 | carols | and they can’t fix it otherwise |
| 15:50.24 | stqism | Payoneer are the only folks qualified to fix payoneer issues. |
| 15:50.28 | Dragooon | Manishearth: I don’t get it? |
| 15:50.42 | MisterA | he's in 18 channels or something I think |
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| 15:50.53 | carols | even more things to take to PMs... |
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| 15:51.07 | Dragooon | Can someone create an OT GSoC channel? |
| 15:51.26 | carols | that would save me some sanity. |
| 15:51.28 | stqism | Done, Dragooon > #gsoc-offtopic |
| 15:51.31 | jpirie | could be a good plan that |
| 15:51.44 | kblin | stqism: that's in violation to freenode naming policies, though |
| 15:51.52 | VarunAgw | ## |
| 15:51.57 | kblin | stqism: please name it ##gsoc-offtopic |
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| 15:52.11 | Manishearth | ##gsoc-offtopic created |
| 15:52.18 | catallman | thanks |
| 15:52.21 | nole | Can anyone tell me that is the list of accepted projects is final(i mean will there be any updates in future) and can anyone back off from the project? |
| 15:52.29 | stqism | kblin: Oh right, I put it in the topic, but I'll do that |
| 15:52.42 | thiago | nole: if someone backs off from a project, the list changes :-) |
| 15:52.54 | thiago | nole: we can't force students to do the work... |
| 15:53.08 | kremlin- | yet |
| 15:53.15 | kblin | :) |
| 15:53.20 | amoghbl1 | carols email'd payoneer, the bank transfer link does seem to be having problems, hopefully they fix it by tomorrow as they've promised in their auto generated mail! |
| 15:53.29 | carols | amoghbl1: great, thanks |
| 15:54.10 | nole | And is there a chance for someone to fill the vacancy? |
| 15:54.23 | carols | nole: no |
| 15:54.27 | carols | if someone drops out now, that’s it |
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| 15:55.09 | nole | Okay. thanks |
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| 15:57.14 | Turl | is there any chance we can get a note on /topic or factoid about the offtopic channel? |
| 15:57.26 | stqism | carols: ^ |
| 15:58.09 | carols | Turl: please ask one of the other mods. |
| 15:58.23 | Turl | kblin: ^ |
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| 16:00.21 | Niharika | !learn offtopic as Take the chat to ##gsoc-offtopic, please. |
| 16:00.22 | gsocbot | Niharika: "offtopic" is Take the chat to ##gsoc-offtopic, please. |
| 16:00.33 | Niharika | Turl: That fine? |
| 16:01.55 | Manishearth | yep |
| 16:02.08 | Turl | that should be ok, thanks Niharika |
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| 16:05.54 | VarunAgw | !amigoodenough |
| 16:05.54 | gsocbot | VarunAgw: "amigoodenough" is http://en.flossmanuals.net/GSoCStudentGuide/ch003_am-i-good-enough/ |
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| 16:09.41 | amoghbl1 | !next |
| 16:09.42 | gsocbot | amoghbl1: "next" is The GSoC Community Bonding Period is now on. Students begin coding on 19 May, 2014 |
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| 16:10.59 | VaticanCameos | !india |
| 16:10.59 | gsocbot | VaticanCameos: "india" is Some hints for payoneer in India can be found at http://thejoyofpython.wordpress.com/2014/04/22/regarding-payoneer-for-indian-students/ |
| 16:11.06 | VaticanCameos | Nice that someone added it as a factoid |
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| 16:25.48 | ephemeron | From what I gather, the Payoneer email must be identical to the one listed under Contact Information. Is that correct? |
| 16:26.11 | carols | ephemeron: yes |
| 16:26.18 | ephemeron | carols: Thanks. |
| 16:26.22 | carols | yw |
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| 16:33.28 | lasconic | Hi |
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| 16:33.37 | stqism | Hello |
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| 16:44.48 | carols | serves some coffee and tea |
| 16:46.12 | Dragooon | needs coffe |
| 16:46.13 | Dragooon | Thans1 |
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| 16:53.21 | saurabhsood91 | carols: ping |
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| 16:53.29 | carols | saurabhsood91: pong |
| 16:54.11 | t4nk188 | hello |
| 16:54.12 | saurabhsood91 | hi. openSUSE got a duplicate situation. we are trying to select another student, but I dont see any proposals or projects in melange at all :/ |
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| 16:55.56 | lasconic | yes same here, no proposal on melange |
| 16:56.09 | lasconic | also do we have a deadline to solve this duplication issue? |
| 16:56.11 | carols | saurabhsood91: that’s a great thing to ask the melange folks... |
| 16:56.16 | carols | i don’t know anything about that :-) |
| 16:56.21 | carols | well, except that i can’t fix it.. |
| 16:56.31 | saurabhsood91 | carols: sure. i will buzz them ;) |
| 16:56.35 | carols | thanks |
| 16:56.45 | saurabhsood91 | also, any deadline on the duplication? |
| 16:57.04 | carols | i have no idea, i assume the deadline is whenever they need to have their code correct again |
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| 16:57.32 | saurabhsood91 | ok |
| 16:58.45 | saurabhsood91 | lasconic: there is a dropdown for the status. select 'all' there, and you will be able to see all the proposals :) |
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| 16:59.22 | lasconic | saurabhsood91: marvellous |
| 16:59.34 | saurabhsood91 | thanks to the awesome melange guys ;) |
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| 16:59.54 | lasconic | I will try to get the duplication solved asap, I hope 24 hours from now is still ok as a deadline |
| 17:00.04 | saurabhsood91 | same here... |
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| 17:09.59 | Lasani | is there a way to get into summer program if you missed the registration date ? |
| 17:10.07 | manugupt1 | Lasani: no |
| 17:10.36 | Lasani | :( |
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| 17:10.39 | blast007 | Lasani: you're welcome to contribute to some open source projects regardless |
| 17:11.00 | Lasani | where could I find those ? |
| 17:11.14 | manugupt1 | Lasani: some are here http://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:GSOC_ideas :) |
| 17:11.31 | Lasani | thanks :) |
| 17:11.40 | manugupt1 | If you are willing to help openSUSE let me or saurabhsood91 know.. we will help you there |
| 17:11.50 | saurabhsood91 | +1 to that ;) |
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| 17:12.14 | blast007 | Lasani: there are a ton of open source projects out there... odds are you use at least one of them on a daily basis. |
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| 17:12.47 | Manishearth | Lasani: or come to Mozilla! |
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| 17:13.08 | Lasani | Mozilla has open source projects as well ? |
| 17:13.30 | saurabhsood91 | Lasani: Mozilla *is* an open source project |
| 17:13.43 | Lasani | I'll take a look at the open source projects and will try to contribute :) |
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| 17:14.11 | Lasani | oh, sorry just a newbie here |
| 17:14.19 | manugupt1_ | Lasani: no issues :) |
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| 17:15.28 | manugupt1_ | Lasani: if youhave specific interests, seek out those projects |
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| 17:15.43 | Haven__ | I've just shifted home to a new city, is it too late to change to address for the welcome package ? |
| 17:15.43 | Lasani | I am quite interested in Objective C |
| 17:15.51 | Lasani | as a language :) |
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| 17:16.11 | manugupt1_ | Lasani: so you can go to google-melange.com |
| 17:16.44 | soccer_ | carols: Are mentors from first time orgs allowed to mentor two different proposals? |
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| 17:16.54 | carols | soccer_: what does the org admin think? |
| 17:17.03 | manugupt1_ | Lasani: http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/org2/google/gsoc2014/gnu |
| 17:17.08 | manugupt1_ | Lasani: http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/org2/google/gsoc2014/macports |
| 17:17.17 | manugupt1_ | check them out they have ideas on objective c |
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| 17:17.28 | manugupt1_ | basically search projects and organizations by tag |
| 17:17.35 | manugupt1_ | and that should give a pretty good answer |
| 17:18.18 | soccer_ | Org "admin" wants to mentor multiple applications but apparently they are not allowed to i guess? |
| 17:18.40 | amoghbl1 | Haven__: ya, the welcome packages are being labeled as we speak, but you can change the address and it will be shipped to your new address after they fail to deliver it to you at your old one! |
| 17:18.59 | Haven__ | Thank you! |
| 17:19.12 | Haven__ | Will change it ASAP |
| 17:19.34 | soccer_ | carols: Org "admin" wants to mentor multiple applications but apparently they are not allowed to i guess? |
| 17:19.54 | carols | soccer_: org admins can mentor as many people as they like assuming they have the time for it.... |
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| 17:21.04 | soccer_ | carols: Okay. So that means there isn't any restriction by Google on the number of proposals a mentor can undertake |
| 17:21.14 | carols | soccer_: no, certainly not. |
| 17:21.19 | carols | but gosh that’s a lot of work. |
| 17:21.22 | carols | i hope they know that. |
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| 17:21.30 | carols | i wuld hate for them to set themselves up for failure. |
| 17:21.50 | soccer_ | carols: Thanks for the information. |
| 17:21.57 | carols | cheers |
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| 17:28.19 | AndChat5678 | I just came to know that some students are selected for Gsoc. I also want to join can I participate? |
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| 17:28.56 | blast007 | AndChat5678: you're too late for this GSoC, but you could still contribute to some open source projects. |
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| 17:30.15 | AndChat5678 | Am I too late? I saw the list of orgs may be I will contact them directly to work |
| 17:30.39 | Lasani | http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/org2/google/gsoc2014/gnu & http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/org2/google/gsoc2014/macports , are they opensource ? |
| 17:30.41 | somaen | You are too late to participate in GSoC proper (and recieve a stipend from Google) |
| 17:30.48 | carols | AndChat5678: too late to participate in gsoc? yes. never too late to contribute to open source projects. |
| 17:31.04 | somaen | Lasani: Yes |
| 17:31.31 | somaen | Otherwise they wouldn't be accepted projects |
| 17:31.48 | carols | Lasani: it is a requirement of all organizations that participate in gsoc that they release code under an osi-approved license |
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| 17:32.39 | Lasani | oh, so does that mean all the projects on google-melange.com are open source ? |
| 17:32.49 | blast007 | Lasani: yes |
| 17:33.02 | AndChat5678 | Thank you I will contact them directly. I'll apply next year formally if this program continues |
| 17:33.19 | blast007 | and that's just a very, very tiny number of projects from the vast amount of open-source projects/organizations in the world |
| 17:33.33 | Lasani | that's cool, even if you don't get paid, you get to learn a lot :D |
| 17:33.38 | teepee | Lasani: you can find lots of more opensource projects on sites like http://github.com or http://sourceforge.net |
| 17:34.23 | somaen | although, github might not guarantee an actual OSI-approve license |
| 17:34.41 | somaen | lots of stuff on github lacks a license, and is thus rather murky reuse-wise. |
| 17:34.48 | catallman | or OpenHatch |
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| 17:37.20 | Lasani | so lets say I'm interested in participating in an open source project on either (http://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:GSOC_ideas) or (google-melenge.com), will the coding etc starts with the gsoc guys or will they start early or have they started the project already ? |
| 17:37.21 | ice[9]_ | kudos to Edwin Marshall for posting the first sensible post in the mailing list !! |
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| 17:37.54 | rajul | Lasani, you may start at anytime you want.... |
| 17:38.42 | rajul | Lasani, just contact the guys at openSUSE and explain what you want to do....and then you may even not wait for anyone to reply but jump right in with coding... |
| 17:38.51 | saurabhsood91 | Lasani: most organizations have Junior Jobs to help kickstart contributions for new contributors. they are a great place to start.. |
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| 17:39.15 | Lasani | thanks for answering all the questions, usually I look them up on their website but you guys were soo helpful in answering all my questions, thanks a lot :) |
| 17:40.08 | teepee | catallman: OpenHatch is strange |
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| 17:44.31 | catallman | how so? |
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| 17:47.49 | Mathnerd314 | the Payoneer website is broken... why can't Google just mail everyone checks? |
| 17:48.04 | somaen | Because checks are weird |
| 17:48.20 | Mathnerd314 | or bitcoins? |
| 17:48.20 | somaen | i.e. not everyone accepts them |
| 17:48.22 | PulkoMandy | they don't even work in all countries |
| 17:49.19 | Mathnerd314 | retracts bitcoins after checking the prices |
| 17:49.58 | somaen | Moving money between two countries is... interesting at best. |
| 17:50.37 | somaen | Moving money between a huge amount of countries... well, let's just say it's surprising that it works at all. |
| 17:50.54 | Mathnerd314 | yeah, and at the moment it doesn't |
| 17:50.58 | somaen | Well |
| 17:51.12 | somaen | you won't be getting any money in a while anyhow |
| 17:51.23 | blast007 | Mathnerd314: have you contacted the Payoneer technical support? |
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| 17:51.44 | somaen | So, no need to stress the issue, it'll probably be resolved by the time it's important. |
| 17:51.50 | Mathnerd314 | yeah, I sent an email. |
| 17:51.55 | Mathnerd314 | the issues is https://pubs.payoneer.com/WebApps/PubsResources/a_23_-1731950582.js |
| 17:52.07 | Mathnerd314 | "/* Bundler Response is missing */" |
| 17:52.24 | blast007 | Mathnerd314: then all you can do is wait for them to resolve the issue :) |
| 17:52.41 | panzone | Mathnerd314: well, have you been in a hurry ? we have until 28th, so we can wait a few hours |
| 17:53.01 | Mathnerd314 | yeah, I just like to do things in chunks. Waiting makes that impossible... |
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| 17:54.09 | Mathnerd314 | I don't check the email I signed up with that often |
| 17:54.28 | somaen | might want to forward it to something you do check then? |
| 17:54.42 | panzone | i prefer to do everything immediatly too, but in this case we can' t do anything to haste the solution so it' s better to do something else |
| 17:55.33 | Mathnerd314 | also I sent my mentor an email 14 hours ago, and he still hasn't responded |
| 17:55.56 | teepee | some mentors might need sleep from time to time ;) |
| 17:56.07 | somaen | Time-Zones, work, etc. |
| 17:56.10 | panzone | Mathnerd314: mentors are human too (at least i hope) |
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| 17:57.20 | Mathnerd314 | and he was on IRC yesterday but didn't respond either... |
| 17:57.40 | somaen | being in channel on IRC isn't equivalent to being online |
| 17:57.58 | somaen | _talking_ in channel on IRC usually means you're online though. |
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| 17:58.49 | Mathnerd314 | ... and I have 178 tabs open! it's like nothing is going as planned. |
| 17:58.57 | sttaylor | Mathnerd314: mentors also have jobs and lives, and need sleep and are probably on a different time zone than you. |
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| 18:00.02 | panzone | mathnerd314: maybe you should relax or prepare a good work environment ? |
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| 18:01.12 | panzone | I spent this day to clone the git repository and trying to compile the project, seeing what libraries/dependecies/ecc. ecc. i need on my work computer |
| 18:01.32 | Mathnerd314 | hmm, I'd send a pic if I was there, but basically the proposed work environment a disaster. Papers everywhere, >5 inches high, no clear floor space at all. I don't even know where to put my computer. |
| 18:01.50 | Mathnerd314 | even getting to the chair is difficult |
| 18:02.07 | Manishearth | Mathnerd314: o/ |
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| 18:02.49 | Manishearth | (I think I half-mentored you on some bug somewhere) |
| 18:03.04 | Manishearth | Which org? |
| 18:03.08 | Mathnerd314 | Haskell |
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| 18:03.48 | Manishearth | ah. No clue how their IRC works, but you should ask other people in IRC for a rough idea of when you can find him |
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| 18:04.09 | Manishearth | Also, try to allow >24 hrs for a response, remember that you have to factor in timezone differences |
| 18:04.42 | Mathnerd314 | well, he was hanging out in #diagrams yesterday. I sent it to him ~midnight his time, it's 2pm now... |
| 18:05.32 | MisterA | try to catch him at a good time or something |
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| 18:09.32 | Manishearth | carols: So what are we supposed to use the mailing list for? |
| 18:09.49 | Manishearth | (obviously not payment issues, but can we discuss other core gsoc things?) |
| 18:10.09 | teepee | Mathnerd314: or check if there's a bot in that channel that allows to deliver messages |
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| 18:11.21 | Turl | teepee: Mathnerd314: freenode has MemoServ |
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| 18:17.03 | rajul | Manishearth, you can use the mailing list for general GSoC related questions and also "general" questions regarding other things like your project etc... |
| 18:17.18 | rajul | Manishearth, however, real core stuff related to you project and your project design and implementation details are meant to be discussed on your org's mailing lists or IRC channel.... |
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| 18:19.18 | Manishearth | rajul: alright, thanks :) |
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| 18:28.07 | system64 | The official date to begin coding is May 19, right? |
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| 18:34.31 | toso | !next |
| 18:34.32 | gsocbot | toso: "next" is The GSoC Community Bonding Period is now on. Students begin coding on 19 May, 2014 |
| 18:34.39 | toso | system64: ^ |
| 18:35.01 | system64 | thanks |
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| 18:36.22 | ish__ | carols: With whom can I discuss doubts regarding Payoneer registration ? |
| 18:36.32 | carols | ish__: payoneer customer service |
| 18:36.34 | Dragooon | ish__: Payoneer |
| 18:36.43 | ish__ | Okay |
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| 18:38.01 | aseem207 | how many students have applied this time to the gsoc? |
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| 18:38.28 | VarunAgw | 6000 |
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| 18:39.10 | ish__ | VarunAgw: how many got through , 1307 ? |
| 18:39.35 | VarunAgw | ? |
| 18:40.23 | ish__ | VarunAgw: How many got accepted in total ? |
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| 18:41.49 | VarunAgw | ish__, yes |
| 18:42.05 | ish__ | Okay |
| 18:43.11 | PulkoMandy | system64: there is nothing preventing you from starting to code before that date, btw |
| 18:43.19 | SHMD | Hi everyone :) |
| 18:43.59 | SHMD | Back to channel after good news of selection and after taking last 2 exams today :P |
| 18:44.35 | SHMD | The Payments page of melange mentioned 3$ charges on bank Transfer for payoneer but i asked support and they said 3$ + 2.75% of amount to withdraw |
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| 18:45.26 | SHMD | isn't that flat $3 for transaction ? |
| 18:46.19 | rvraghav93 | !numapps |
| 18:46.20 | gsocbot | rvraghav93: "numapps" is 2014: 190/371 orgs; 1307/6313 proposals (by 4420 students). 2013: 177/417 orgs; 1192/5999 proposals (by 4144 students). 2012: 180/406 orgs; 1212/6685 proposals (by 4258 students). 2011: 175/417 orgs; 1116/5474 proposals (by 3731 students). 2010: 151/367 orgs; 1026/5539 proposals (by 3464 students). |
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| 18:48.46 | Botanic | is melenage having issues? I cant see any of the proposals anymore, not even the ones im a mentor for. |
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| 18:49.10 | meflin | check the selector drop down to all |
| 18:50.09 | Botanic | oh haha |
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| 20:07.22 | kaku | what should be the designation for a gsoc student: 1. "Student open source developer" at google or "Intern" at google summer of code or something else ? |
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| 20:08.58 | carols | kaku: student developer for your mentoring organization. |
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| 20:11.52 | kaku | carols: but i see students showing google as the employer most of the time. Is it wrong ? |
| 20:12.00 | carols | kaku: yep, it’s wrong |
| 20:12.26 | carols | kaku: http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/document/show/gsoc_program/google/gsoc2014/help_page#17._employment |
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| 20:12.54 | kaku | carols: Ok, thanks |
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| 20:13.11 | carols | yw |
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| 20:48.54 | dchiu | Hi everyone |
| 20:49.11 | dchiu | I’m a gsoc mentor, and I need some help |
| 20:50.05 | PulkoMandy | hi |
| 20:50.47 | carols | hi dchiu |
| 20:50.51 | carols | sure, what’s the question? |
| 20:51.13 | dchiu | Hi carol, I’m a mentor for a student project with Portland State University (org) |
| 20:51.21 | carols | great. |
| 20:51.36 | dchiu | When I go into my dashboard to view “projects I’m a mentor for”, I see nothing |
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| 20:51.48 | dchiu | However, when I search for my name under “accepted projects” it shows up |
| 20:51.57 | dchiu | I’m not sure where the discrepancy is |
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| 20:52.14 | carols | dchiu: okay, that would be question to pose to the melange developers |
| 20:52.24 | meflin | change the project filter drop down to all |
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| 20:53.08 | dchiu | let me see.. |
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| 20:54.17 | dchiu | project filter dropdown? |
| 20:55.03 | meflin | not sure what its called in mentor view ...its status for me |
| 20:56.48 | dchiu | hmmm hang on.. it’s not showing anything under my organizations either |
| 20:57.23 | meflin | well try #melange it must be a different issue then I thought |
| 20:57.32 | carols | dchiu: i’d really recommend you reach out to the melange folks. |
| 20:57.58 | dchiu | thanks! |
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| 21:37.08 | rahulrrixe | carols: I will be in USA for few days on J-1 visa (not confirmed yet), so i need to fill tax form related to US? |
| 21:37.20 | carols | rahulrrixe: i have no idea. |
| 21:37.25 | carols | you should ask a tax advsiro. |
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| 21:37.31 | carols | advisor |
| 21:37.37 | rahulrrixe | carols : Ok |
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| 22:35.52 | Markus_Garvey | hey yo brothers! |
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| 22:37.25 | Markus_Garvey | any blacks? |
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| 22:39.10 | snowden | yeah Markus_Garvey |
| 22:39.35 | Markus_Garvey | snowden: how'z the Kremlin? |
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| 23:42.46 | jakedust | when I access my dashboard, the project list is empty, even though my project was accepted (and I can even edit it on the accepted projects list), is this normal? |
| 23:43.48 | meflin | perhaps there is a bug being looked into ... and sometimes the selector is in the wrong position |
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| 23:57.13 | rajul | jakedust, yeah it is normal...i am getting the same.... |
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| 23:57.38 | jakedust | rajul: oh, great. |
| 23:57.45 | rajul | jakedust, i suppose that we shall get projects there when the codingperiod starts... |
| 23:57.51 | rajul | dont worry :) |
| 23:57.53 | jakedust | because it weirdly enough happens for this year's GSoC, but not on 2012's |
| 23:58.10 | rajul | yeah....it did not... |
| 23:58.19 | rajul | you participated in GSoC 2012?? |
| 23:58.22 | jakedust | yup |
| 23:59.11 | rajul | nice...me too!! |
| 23:59.24 | rajul | jakedust, which org?? |
