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| 00:08.55 | koosha | I have not received any notification yet about my acceptance/rejection. My mentor is on vacation! |
| 00:11.09 | meflin | !next |
| 00:11.10 | gsocbot | meflin: "next" is Students for Google Summer of Code 2014 will be announced on 21 April, 2014 at 19:00 UTC |
| 00:11.28 | meflin | have some tea |
| 00:11.33 | MisterA_ | hey, can someone help me with getting my smtp info from gmail? |
| 00:12.36 | meflin | MisterA_: does not parse .. this is not a gmail channel |
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| 01:53.27 | rushboy | !next |
| 01:53.28 | gsocbot | rushboy: "next" is Students for Google Summer of Code 2014 will be announced on 21 April, 2014 at 19:00 UTC |
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| 02:00.13 | stqism | Can a student have 2 mentors? |
| 02:01.20 | MatthewWilkes | stqism: Yes, many organisations assign multiple people, but there is always one primary point of contact that's responsible for filling in the evaluations |
| 02:01.43 | MatthewWilkes | Melange only allows one mentor to be assigned per project |
| 02:01.47 | stqism | MatthewWilkes: Works for me |
| 02:02.52 | stqism | Post deduplication meeting, can we make last minute student switches? |
| 02:03.05 | stqism | We've got 2 students to decide from who didn't apply for other orgs |
| 02:03.34 | stqism | We're also waiting on a response from 1 before making a final decision, though they are marked down |
| 02:03.51 | MatthewWilkes | stqism: Yup, that can happen at any point. It's important that they have mentors assigned now and that they have final mentors before the announcement deadline though |
| 02:03.59 | MatthewWilkes | you can still shuffle mentors around before then |
| 02:04.12 | MatthewWilkes | you can after, too, but it's confusing for the students so I would recommend against it |
| 02:04.43 | stqism | MatthewWilkes: Excellent :) And I take this still means flipping accepted proposals on and off before the deadline, correct? |
| 02:05.07 | stqism | 2 students are both marked down with mentors, though we can't accept both proposals |
| 02:05.38 | MatthewWilkes | stqism: As long as they're paired with mentors I believe you can flip the accepted bit up to the dedup meeting |
| 02:06.07 | stqism | MatthewWilkes: Wait, no accepted flipping between the dedupe and announcement? |
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| 02:06.50 | stqism | !timeline |
| 02:06.50 | gsocbot | stqism: "timeline" is http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/events/google/gsoc2014 |
| 02:08.10 | MatthewWilkes | stqism: No, you might cause a dupe |
| 02:08.34 | MatthewWilkes | stqism: After the dedup meeting the choices are firm, I think you'd have to speak to carols for specifics on what that means |
| 02:08.48 | stqism | MatthewWilkes: Noted, and do I have till the minute before the dedupe meeting? Being 19:00 UTC |
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| 02:09.49 | MatthewWilkes | stqism: I think you'd probably have until the last dupe is fixed in the meeting, but that'd probably get some people annoyed. It should have all been decided already |
| 02:10.28 | stqism | MatthewWilkes: Yeah, I'm normally so much better than this, but that's glad to hear. |
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| 02:18.20 | umccullough | MatthewWilkes, pretty sure i assigned two mentors to a proposal by accident the other day ;) |
| 02:18.30 | umccullough | in melange |
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| 02:19.02 | umccullough | i might add, it doesn't let you specify a primary - and it re-sorts them alphabetically |
| 02:19.06 | umccullough | or something like that |
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| 05:53.59 | pchr8_ | Three hours to go, I feel kinda strange :) |
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| 05:56.47 | Niharika | pchr8_: Three hours for what? |
| 05:59.07 | fewcha | Niharika: Three hours remaining for all student proposals to be matched with a mentor |
| 05:59.20 | KK4MGV | should we hear from them in those 3 hours? |
| 05:59.25 | KK4MGV | or only on the 21sst |
| 05:59.30 | kushalk124 | On 21st |
| 05:59.38 | Niharika | Ah. |
| 05:59.54 | Niharika | Most orgs have probably already sealed the deal. |
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| 06:00.29 | kushalk124 | Yep. If there is a duplicate situation after these 3 hours then dedup today |
| 06:00.38 | kushalk124 | Otherwise wait till 21st |
| 06:00.45 | gopesh | my mentor had asked me to edit the proposal but he hasn't reviewed it,i commented on it still he hasn't reviewed |
| 06:02.34 | fewcha | gopesh: how many days back? |
| 06:02.47 | gopesh | on thrusday |
| 06:02.56 | fewcha | so yesterday? |
| 06:03.09 | gopesh | ssry on wed |
| 06:03.47 | fewcha | gopesh: okay. Maybe he needs some time, because *maybe* he is busy now (most mentors are, at this moment) |
| 06:04.43 | gopesh | maybe... |
| 06:05.03 | fewcha | ya, what I said is just a speculation |
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| 07:28.32 | gsocbot | pawan_seerwani: (help [<plugin>] [<command>]) -- This command gives a useful description of what <command> does. <plugin> is only necessary if the command is in more than one plugin. |
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| 07:29.28 | pawan_seerwani | Hey, I want a list of all commands starting with "!" in this channeli.. like !next, !allocations, etc.. How do I get a list of all that. |
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| 07:31.13 | gsocbot | stqism: (help [<plugin>] [<command>]) -- This command gives a useful description of what <command> does. <plugin> is only necessary if the command is in more than one plugin. |
| 07:31.20 | stqism | ... |
| 07:31.30 | Droggl | !list |
| 07:31.31 | gsocbot | Droggl: Admin, Channel, Config, Factoids, Gsoc, Misc, Owner, Services, and User |
| 07:31.33 | stqism | !help * |
| 07:31.34 | gsocbot | stqism: Error: There is no command "*". |
| 07:31.39 | Droggl | !list Gsoc |
| 07:31.39 | gsocbot | Droggl: countdown and next |
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| 07:31.59 | stqism | ... |
| 07:32.14 | Droggl | !help Gsoc.countdown |
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| 07:32.28 | gsocbot | Droggl: (countdown [<redirect>]) -- get the countdown for the next event |
| 07:32.35 | Droggl | !countdown |
| 07:32.36 | gsocbot | Droggl: Error: No factoid matches that key. |
| 07:32.48 | PulkoMandy | !factoids |
| 07:32.49 | gsocbot | PulkoMandy: "factoids" is To see all factoids, /msg gsocbot factoids search #gsoc * |
| 07:32.52 | PulkoMandy | here is your help |
| 07:33.02 | PulkoMandy | beware, there are so much commands that it's hard to list them all |
| 07:33.11 | Droggl | btw guys you can do this experimenting stuff in a query with gsocbot |
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| 07:34.30 | Droggl | also, it seems to be a supybot, you can google for the documentation :) |
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| 09:00.19 | sidthekid | another day, another deadline :O |
| 09:00.35 | stqism | sidthekid: Always |
| 09:00.44 | modfs | Hi, Student acceptance deadline now is over. What's done is done, only few students can still hope. |
| 09:01.07 | stqism | modfs: To be fair, 10 hours and the length of the meeting remain. |
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| 09:02.08 | stqism | It's 9:01 UTC, the meeting where time is over is at 19:00 UTC |
| 09:02.54 | gevaerts | looks at the clock |
| 09:02.59 | gevaerts | stqism: 9:02! |
| 09:03.51 | stqism | gevaerts: Fine, 9 hours and 57 minutes + meeting ;_; |
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| 09:30.20 | ashmew2 | !next |
| 09:30.21 | gsocbot | ashmew2: "next" is Students for Google Summer of Code 2014 will be announced on 21 April, 2014 at 19:00 UTC |
| 09:30.58 | ashmew2 | Are students allowed to stay in #gsoc for the meeting later today? Or will it become an invite-only channel? |
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| 09:32.18 | stqism | ashmew2: I'm assuming muted |
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| 09:35.52 | Jaydev | @ashmew2: i didn't get any invitation for meeting. is it alright? |
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| 09:36.52 | linyu | so what the time now in UTC? |
| 09:37.03 | Sebastian_Tor | 9:37 am |
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| 09:37.42 | stqism | Jaydev: Are you a student? |
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| 09:37.57 | Jaydev | @stqism: yes |
| 09:38.20 | stqism | Jaydev: The meeting is not for students |
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| 09:43.38 | soc14 | sqtism: By now the mentors must have submitted the proposals that are accepted? |
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| 09:44.05 | gevaerts | No |
| 09:44.24 | soc14 | gevaerts: Sorry? |
| 09:44.46 | gevaerts | Hm, right |
| 09:44.47 | gevaerts | Yes :) |
| 09:45.14 | soc14 | Is there anything that could possibly change today? (After the meetings and all) |
| 09:45.19 | Jaydev | @stqism: oh, i see. so students will not get any hint that which organization has accepted them until 21st? eg. if i'm selected by more then one org then will orgs ask me which org will i prefer? |
| 09:45.44 | gevaerts | soc14: yes, due to duplicate resolution |
| 09:45.45 | kushalk124 | Jaydev, Depends on the org. They can take the decision by themselves |
| 09:45.52 | gevaerts | Jaydev: correct |
| 09:46.03 | gevaerts | kushalk124: orgs are *not allowed* to tell students |
| 09:46.20 | gevaerts | But yes, they can ask that |
| 09:46.31 | gevaerts | didn't have enough coffee yet... |
| 09:46.33 | sri16 | melange will be mediating between organizations to reduce duplicates |
| 09:46.38 | kushalk124 | gevaerts, Orgs are not allowed to tell. But if there is a duplication the org can ask preference |
| 09:46.39 | soc14 | gevaerts: Is there a reason to it? Now that accepted proposal have been submitted ? |
| 09:46.53 | gevaerts | kushalk124: true. I was misreading |
| 09:47.03 | gevaerts | soc14: any reason to what exactly? |
| 09:47.10 | kushalk124 | !tea | gevaerts |
| 09:47.10 | gsocbot | gevaerts: "tea" is Have some tea and try to relax! |
| 09:47.11 | gevaerts | Acceptance isn't final yet |
| 09:47.18 | kushalk124 | :) |
| 09:47.25 | gevaerts | kushalk124: tea will put me to sleep, causing even more confusion! |
| 09:47.30 | kushalk124 | Haha |
| 09:47.39 | kushalk124 | What time is it for you ? |
| 09:47.40 | soc14 | Why orgs/mentors should't tell the students (in case of no duplication)? |
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| 09:48.27 | Niharika | soc14: They´d want to tell the results to everyone at the same time, duplicated or not. |
| 09:48.31 | gevaerts | soc14: (a) how can orgs know there definitely isn't any duplication?, and (b) because google says so, and google pays for it all |
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| 09:49.20 | stqism | Jaydev: That's up to orgs to work out, and giving you even a little hint early is against the rules. |
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| 09:50.02 | soc14 | gevaerts: Niharika: So this is primarily because of possible duplicates? |
| 09:50.14 | stqism | Yes |
| 09:50.34 | stqism | gevaerts: +1 on b |
| 09:50.34 | Niharika | soc14: And duplicate-resolving leading to more duplicates and so on. |
| 09:51.13 | Jaydev | @stqism: oh. now i understand why everyone is quiet... |
| 09:51.46 | stqism | Jaydev: We're not going to break the rules and get 0 students :) |
| 09:52.15 | soc14 | stqism: That's Google being very harsh |
| 09:52.51 | soc14 | Niharika: Are you a mentor ? |
| 09:53.02 | Niharika | soc14: Nope. Student. |
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| 09:53.56 | gevaerts | I doubt if the result would be 0 students this year (unless it's systematic, maybe), but I imagine this would definitely impact an org's chances in the future |
| 09:54.25 | Ivanovic | one possible consequence could be that no mentors are invited to the mentor summit |
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| 09:55.02 | Ivanovic | since that one is only open to orgs who follow the rules e.g. when it comes to submitting the questionaires |
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| 09:57.01 | gevaerts | Ah, yes |
| 09:57.24 | gevaerts | That's something that has been used as a punishment in the past |
| 09:57.36 | gevaerts | Maybe not for this particular thing, but still |
| 09:57.50 | gevaerts | Anyway, orgs that know the rules *will* be silent |
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| 09:59.05 | Ivanovic | orgs will only in special cases like a duplication talk to students |
| 09:59.17 | Ivanovic | and even then the orgs might not ask for the students preference |
| 09:59.42 | gevaerts | thinks they shouldn't |
| 09:59.45 | Ivanovic | when doing this talking the orgs should still make sure to point out that this does not guarantee acceptance |
| 09:59.49 | Sebastian_Tor | we asked whether the student applied for more than one org in the application template |
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| 09:59.57 | gevaerts | They should really ask very early on, so it doesn't suggest anything |
| 10:00.00 | Sebastian_Tor | Which means we don't have to ask as much later. |
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| 10:00.55 | Ivanovic | gevaerts: not always easily possible |
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| 10:01.22 | gevaerts | Ivanovic: I know :) |
| 10:01.26 | Ivanovic | Sebastian_Tor: of course you can ask this, but does it really help and not give you some different perception? |
| 10:01.51 | gevaerts | Ivanovic: I'm standing comfortably on the sidelines here :) |
| 10:01.53 | Ivanovic | meaning: would you somehow maybe prefer students who only apply to your org or at least list your org as prefered? |
| 10:01.59 | Ivanovic | :) |
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| 10:02.32 | Sebastian_Tor | Ivanovic: historical data would indicate no, I believe |
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| 10:02.45 | Sebastian_Tor | but maybe it acts as an inhibitor for some students |
| 10:02.47 | Sebastian_Tor | I don't know |
| 10:03.05 | Sebastian_Tor | we've fared well, and always had enough applications for our mentoring capacity |
| 10:03.16 | gevaerts | If you don't want to ask directly, you could say something like "If you have applied to more than one organisation, you don't have to tell us, but if you have a preference, consider telling your preferred organisation about it" |
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| 10:07.38 | soc14 | There is a typo in my proposal abstract which i noticed right now. Is there a possible way out of it? |
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| 10:12.16 | PulkoMandy | soc14: mentor can enable editing, request for that in a comment to the proposal |
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| 10:13.21 | PulkoMandy | regarding duplicate students, we ask this in our application template. Knowing that the proposal we get is secondary, we can also ask the other org what they think of the student, as he likely put more work on the primary proposal, and we take that into account when rating |
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| 11:01.34 | pl8787 | How to hide the message start with ==? |
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| 11:03.36 | andre__ | pl8787, what message? |
| 11:05.00 | pl8787 | andre__: like someone join in or quit |
| 11:05.24 | andre__ | pl8787, depends on your IRC client's settings. |
| 11:05.41 | andre__ | And my client uses <-- and --> for them so I had no idea what ==? meant. |
| 11:05.43 | pl8787 | what IRC client you use? |
| 11:05.50 | andre__ | right now xchat |
| 11:06.03 | AI0867 | 13:04 -!- nikhatzi [~nikhatzi@unaffiliated/nikhatzi] has quit [Quit: Leaving] |
| 11:06.11 | AI0867 | that's what it looks like for me |
| 11:06.35 | pl8787 | I use the web page. |
| 11:06.56 | AI0867 | webchat is not very configurable |
| 11:07.14 | andre__ | whatever "the webpage" this is... ;) |
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| 11:08.07 | gsocbot | krishnaTejaY_: Error: You don't have the owner capability. If you think that you should have this capability, be sure that you are identified before trying again. The 'whoami' command can tell you if you're identified. |
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| 11:08.25 | pl8787 | have a try - xchat :) |
| 11:08.44 | abhgangwar | !logs | krishnaTejaY_ |
| 11:08.45 | gsocbot | krishnaTejaY_: "logs" is http://ibot.rikers.org/%23gsoc/ |
| 11:09.05 | modfs | pl8787: Go to options and choose Hide JOINS/PARTS/QUITS: |
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| 11:10.02 | pl8787 | modfs: thanks, it works ;) |
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| 11:15.03 | gsocbot | VarunAgw: "timeline" is http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/events/google/gsoc2014 |
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| 11:55.31 | arunmathew88 | !afterdup |
| 11:55.33 | gsocbot | arunmathew88: "afterdup" is Have patience! De-Dup meeting may have concluded, but the extra days serve as a buffer to finish shuffling slots around, make sure everything is finalised, and to have a bit of a weekend. |
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| 12:06.03 | PulkoMandy | depends on your IRC client |
| 12:06.44 | ekOreoshake | I'm using webchat.freechat.net |
| 12:06.49 | ekOreoshake | freenode* |
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| 12:07.42 | gevaerts | ekOreoshake: http://wiki.xkcd.com/irc/hide_join_part_messages#qwebirc maybe? |
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| 12:08.30 | ekOreoshake | thanks a lot, gevaerts :) |
| 12:08.40 | gevaerts | tries :) |
| 12:08.47 | gevaerts | Yes, that should do it |
| 12:09.18 | ekOreoshake | yeah, it did! |
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| 12:10.42 | ekOreoshake | now the channel, looks a lot less *active* :p |
| 12:11.08 | gevaerts | But you don't know if whoever you're talking to is still there :) |
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| 12:15.00 | neuro_sys | native clients often have smart ignore plugins for join/part messages. |
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| 12:15.26 | neuro_sys | like not ignoring people's join/parts messages who have talked recently |
| 12:15.40 | gevaerts | neuro_sys: those still won't fix the other issue of waiting for someone to join :) |
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| 12:18.20 | sudarshan | hi all, quick question as this is my first time with gsoc, if I get accepted for a project, I'm assuming I'll be informed through email about it? |
| 12:19.00 | gevaerts | sudarshan: you'll get an email on Monday |
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| 12:19.25 | gevaerts | That one will say whether you're accepted or rejected |
| 12:19.36 | sudarshan | thanks! looking forward to it! |
| 12:19.43 | gevaerts | Or rather, you'll get one email per proposal you submitted :) |
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| 12:20.56 | ananasova | already on Monday, time flies so fast |
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| 12:32.57 | panzone | ok, now i' m feeling tense |
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| 12:40.10 | *** topic/#gsoc is Students for GSoC 2014 will be announced on 21 April at 19:00 UTC, see the program timeline: http://goo.gl/Anraxm for more info | The Google Summer of Code 2014 mentoring orgs list is at: http://goo.gl/Qx6xLC |
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| 12:43.27 | G|O|O|G|L|E|R | Hi |
| 12:43.34 | G|O|O|G|L|E|R | What is today meeting all about? |
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| 12:44.30 | G|O|O|G|L|E|R | and should I have to attend it. I am a student |
| 12:44.50 | gevaerts | Students don't have to attend |
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| 12:45.31 | gevaerts | It's about students who are marked as accepted by more than one organisations *and* haven't been resolved yet in private between organisations |
| 12:46.02 | G|O|O|G|L|E|R | ok, thanks |
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| 12:46.23 | G|O|O|G|L|E|R | Is it public. I am thinking of watching it? |
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| 12:47.13 | gevaerts | Yes, you can do that if you like |
| 12:47.18 | G|O|O|G|L|E|R | cool |
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| 12:48.07 | hitlin37 | how do the students know if thet are marked by as accepted? |
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| 12:48.25 | gevaerts | hitlin37: they get an email on Monday |
| 12:48.39 | hitlin37 | oh.ok.thanks. |
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| 12:51.37 | G|O|O|G|L|E | If they get two E-Mails one stating they got selected and other saying they don't get rejected, it means they are rejected ;) |
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| 12:54.40 | vvector | Can one organization know the other orgs selected student ? |
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| 12:54.40 | vvector | Can one organization know the other orgs selected student ? |
| 12:54.40 | vvector | Can one org know selected students of other org ? |
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| 12:56.01 | gevaerts | G|O|O|G|L|E: you'll get one email per proposal you submitted stating whether that proposal was accepted |
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| 12:56.05 | G|O|O|G|L|E | Posting it once was enough to convey meaning |
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| 13:02.19 | lazywei | Can we know if our proposal be accepted or not now? Or we need to wait to 4/21? |
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| 13:02.44 | G|O|O|G|L|E | lazywei: wait. |
| 13:02.46 | lolcoder | hi, where will the De-dup meeting take place? |
| 13:02.58 | lolcoder | ^^ which channel i mean |
| 13:03.11 | G|O|O|G|L|E | here |
| 13:03.41 | lolcoder | G|O|O|G|L|E: thnx :) |
| 13:04.01 | G|O|O|G|L|E | gevaerts: Actually, I was talking about the bug in GSoC 2006. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google_Summer_of_Code#2006 last second line. |
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| 13:04.36 | G|O|O|G|L|E | of second paragraph |
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| 13:04.58 | lolcoder | can i know how many applicants for a particular org? |
| 13:05.01 | gevaerts | Ah yes, the good old days :) |
| 13:05.09 | gevaerts | lolcoder: you can ask them, and they might tell you |
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| 13:05.43 | lolcoder | gevaerts: i thought the gsocbot would have a shorthand for that :P |
| 13:05.54 | ashmew2 | gevaerts, isn't telling the number of slots that an org got a no-no from Google? |
| 13:06.15 | gevaerts | lolcoder: I didn't say they *will* tell you |
| 13:06.18 | G|O|O|G|L|E | ashmew2: Org. can tell. It is upto them |
| 13:06.20 | gevaerts | ashmew2: no |
| 13:06.40 | ashmew2 | G|O|O|G|L|E, gevaerts , okay, thanks :) |
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| 13:06.52 | gevaerts | Both number of slots and number of applications are not public, but *can* be disclosed by the organisation if they so choose |
| 13:07.24 | lolcoder | gevaerts: i'd rather wait for 21st! ;) |
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| 13:09.20 | G|O|O|G|L|E | I really hate microsoft don't have similar program like GSoC, GCI. |
| 13:09.37 | breton | > microsoft |
| 13:09.41 | breton | > FOSS |
| 13:09.47 | breton | ok. |
| 13:10.01 | gevaerts | Yes. How dare they spend their own money in the way they see fit? |
| 13:10.11 | G|O|O|G|L|E | They just want to learn Visual Studio or ASP :( |
| 13:10.34 | rh121209120 | Excuse me. I have a doubt. I have registered at melange with one email id. But I have quoted another in my proposal. Would this cause any troubles? |
| 13:10.53 | G|O|O|G|L|E | Not if you can receive E-Mails on both |
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| 13:11.58 | rh121209120 | Yes I can. It won't cause any trouble in the payment process, right. I saw this warning on melange. "Please note that you must use the email address listed in your Melange profile to sign up for an account on Payoneer, otherwise your payment will not process correctly." |
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| 13:12.40 | G|O|O|G|L|E | breton: And what about GCJ? It is not FOSS related |
| 13:13.33 | G|O|O|G|L|E | rh121209120: Can you create an account on payoneer with the E-Mail you registered on melange? If yes, no problem |
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| 13:15.24 | rh121209120 | Okay. Thanks a lot not_googler . I thought it may cause trouble while receiving feedbacks from mentors. I may have been thinking too much. Thanks guys. |
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| 13:42.43 | lolcoder | gevaerts: oh yeah, my queries can surely wait. Its just that THE day is around and i am having goosebumps! |
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| 14:01.02 | samisa | Hi |
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| 14:01.29 | VarunAgw | samisa, Hi |
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| 14:10.09 | rays2pix | Dedupe meeting is done? |
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| 14:11.02 | gevaerts | !timeline | rays2pix |
| 14:11.02 | gsocbot | rays2pix: "timeline" is http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/events/google/gsoc2014 |
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| 14:25.14 | carols | serves some tea and coffee |
| 14:25.24 | downey | mmm, tea |
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| 14:27.36 | Sebastian_Tor | ah, the west coast awakens |
| 14:27.46 | Sebastian_Tor | welcome to a whole new day :) |
| 14:27.55 | raianknight | hello, is there a possibility to read today chat messages? |
| 14:28.07 | Sebastian_Tor | raianknight: you mean like backlog? |
| 14:28.16 | PulkoMandy | !logs |
| 14:28.16 | gsocbot | PulkoMandy: "logs" is http://ibot.rikers.org/%23gsoc/ |
| 14:28.32 | raianknight | no,no,no, not yesterday |
| 14:28.52 | raianknight | today chat messages, for example, 2-3 hours ago |
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| 14:29.54 | Gentlecat | raianknight: i guess you'll have to wait |
| 14:30.02 | raianknight | ok :( |
| 14:30.49 | teepee | raianknight: anything specific? 3 hours are still in my client buffer :) |
| 14:31.18 | jpirie | raianknight: if you don't mind lots of join/part messages then you can use this :) https://www.refheap.com/16db8d38102bedc5598831efa |
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| 14:31.50 | raianknight | one more question, what does 18 April mean for the students? Should they be here 19.00 UTC ? |
| 14:32.15 | Sebastian_Tor | no need |
| 14:33.04 | downey | can anyone confirm that org "duplicate" is actually showing up in the status column when there is a duplicate? |
| 14:33.19 | raianknight | i've just wanted to know, maybe here was something useful at 07.00 UTC (according to timeline) |
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| 14:34.13 | raianknight | jpirie, ty for the link |
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| 14:35.06 | Sebastian_Tor | downey: it was confirmed on the mailing list |
| 14:35.32 | downey | Sebastian_Tor: ok great ... i know it was "supposed to be", but hadn't seen anyone who actually saw it |
| 14:35.36 | downey | thanks :) |
| 14:36.05 | Sebastian_Tor | haven't seen it myself :) |
| 14:36.24 | Sebastian_Tor | but apparently pending changes to duplicate, in red |
| 14:36.35 | Sebastian_Tor | I guess the meeting will be short :) |
| 14:36.51 | carols | Sebastian_Tor: i would love it if the meeting was completely moot |
| 14:36.58 | carols | but that never happens... |
| 14:37.15 | Sebastian_Tor | hah. I think it's gotten better over the years |
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| 14:37.33 | Sebastian_Tor | istr a meeting in 09 or so which took a long time |
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| 15:01.16 | SMHD | !logs |
| 15:01.16 | gsocbot | SMHD: "logs" is http://ibot.rikers.org/%23gsoc/ |
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| 15:05.29 | downey | carols: it's been reducing in length every year, yes? |
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| 15:05.48 | carols | downey: reducing? no. but it does tend to be pretty short. |
| 15:06.22 | carols | i think the orgs have figured out that if i’m just going to make the decision arbitrarily they can probably do that between themselves |
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| 15:06.48 | Droggl | ^_^ |
| 15:06.55 | downey | :-) |
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| 15:07.55 | VarunAgw | Organisation deciding themselves is better for everone |
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| 15:08.22 | guest1777 | !numapps |
| 15:08.24 | gsocbot | guest1777: "numapps" is In 2014, 4420 students submitted 6313 proposals. 190 of 371 mentoring orgs were accepted. 2013: 177/417 orgs; 4144 students submitted 5999 proposals, of which 1192 were accepted. 2012: 180/406 orgs; 1212/6685 proposals (by 4258 students). 2011: 175/417 orgs; 1116/5474 proposals (by 3731 students). 2010: 151/367 orgs; 1026/5539 proposals (by 3464 students) |
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| 15:10.24 | VarunAgw | It is amusing that no of organisation applied in 2011 and 2013 are exactly same |
| 15:11.29 | SMHD | Yeah *Amusing* |
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| 15:12.40 | VarunAgw | oops! I used the wrong word |
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| 15:13.02 | VarunAgw | english is bad |
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| 15:14.17 | guest1777 | !allocations |
| 15:14.17 | gsocbot | guest1777: "allocations" is The number of slots allocated to each organization isn't public. The organization may however at their discretion reveal this to you if you ask nicely. |
| 15:14.28 | SMHD | Just wanted to check, i read on many orgs blog about expected number of slots allocated that they expect that they would be allocated atleast that much number of slots as allocated last year |
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| 15:15.16 | SMHD | But then i guess this year, GSoC as celebrating it's anniversary, would be accommodating more students, so orgs should had expected more slots ? |
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| 15:15.30 | carols | SMHD: what’s the question? |
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| 15:15.49 | VarunAgw | 10% more slots |
| 15:16.16 | SMHD | In short, this year orgs are provided 10% more slots as compared to the slots provided to org last year ? |
| 15:16.34 | carols | SMHD: overall, yes. |
| 15:16.39 | SMHD | Nice :) |
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| 15:16.44 | carols | whether the orgs use all those slots is another matter. |
| 15:16.58 | carols | if they don’t have the good proposals to support it, we may not accept that many students. |
| 15:17.10 | SMHD | Yeah that would have depended on proposals |
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| 15:17.29 | bitner | and the capacity of an organization for number of students they can handle |
| 15:19.14 | cbrahmin|exams | !numapps |
| 15:19.14 | gsocbot | cbrahmin|exams: "numapps" is 2014: 190/371 orgs; 6313 proposals submitted by 4420 students. 2013: 177/417 orgs; 1192/5999 proposals (by 4144 students). 2012: 180/406 orgs; 1212/6685 proposals (by 4258 students). 2011: 175/417 orgs; 1116/5474 proposals (by 3731 students). 2010: 151/367 orgs; 1026/5539 proposals (by 3464 students). |
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| 15:25.29 | carols | kblin: you here? |
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| 15:35.10 | Marshalrusty | Melange tells me that the meeting is at noon, but I assume that's preset to Pacific time? Just clarifying that the meeting is in 3.5 hours? |
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| 15:36.42 | teepee | Marshalrusty: yeah, that looks correct. it' 19:00 UTC |
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| 15:38.03 | carols | Marshalrusty: it’s at 19:00 UTC, whenever that is for you |
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| 15:39.56 | qgil | Marshalrusty, carols, useful link: http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?iso=20140418T19 :) |
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| 15:42.22 | olasd | or date -d "2014-04-18 19:00 UTC" |
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| 15:43.37 | qgil | olasd, indeed |
| 15:43.51 | nextgens | hi |
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| 15:44.59 | carols | hi nextgens |
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| 15:46.20 | VarunAgw | Channel is getting populated :) |
| 15:47.19 | gavinatkinson | carols: Hey, is there any point in requesting one extra slot at this late time? |
| 15:47.31 | carols | gavinatkinson: for a new org or a returning one? |
| 15:47.39 | gavinatkinson | carols: Returning, FreeBSD |
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| 15:47.44 | carols | gavinatkinson: sure |
| 15:48.02 | carols | gavinatkinson: i can add one more. |
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| 15:48.33 | gavinatkinson | carols: Excellent, thanks. Do you want me to request it in the usual way? |
| 15:48.43 | carols | gavinatkinson: no, that’s fine, I can just add it |
| 15:49.00 | gavinatkinson | carols: Ah, you already have. Many thanks! |
| 15:49.08 | carols | yw |
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| 15:55.48 | ChristianM | good evening/day/night/morning to all |
| 15:55.58 | carols | hello ChristianM |
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| 15:58.15 | stqism | carols: Curious how the dedupe meeting will work without leaking some accepted students to lurkers |
| 15:58.28 | carols | stqism: it’s not intended not to leak to lurkers. |
| 15:58.37 | carols | if 10 students find out, i’m fine with that |
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| 15:58.49 | carols | although the orgs could solve that if they resolved their duplicates before the meeting |
| 15:58.55 | ChristianM | + |
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| 16:00.39 | stqism | carols: Well, whatever works |
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| 16:00.58 | bob_beck | ken you here? |
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| 16:05.39 | bob_beck | so how to we record our "presence" for being here in 3 hours? |
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| 16:05.53 | carols | bob_beck: you stay in the channel |
| 16:05.59 | carols | and if your org is asked to speak, you do so |
| 16:06.29 | ChristianM | so basic requirement is that you know for which org you are here ;) |
| 16:06.45 | bob_beck | just wondering how long we have to pay attention for. We're a bit busy rampaging through the openssl code base right now :) |
| 16:07.01 | carols | you need to pay attention from 19:00 UTC - 20:00 UTC |
| 16:07.23 | ChristianM | maybe set a notification setting in your client for your orgs name |
| 16:07.52 | bob_beck | yeah that assumes I'm comptent with an IRC client - and this is webchat :) |
| 16:07.54 | stqism | bob_beck: Please be OpenBSD :) |
| 16:08.04 | bob_beck | I am OpenBSD. |
| 16:08.15 | stqism | bob_beck: Love you folks :P |
| 16:08.24 | bob_beck | love you back. |
| 16:08.34 | ChristianM | also chances to be actually needed are relatively low if you don't have duplicates now (as far as I remember from last years) |
| 16:08.45 | bob_beck | indeed, we do not |
| 16:08.53 | gsocker | Hi, In case if a project scope is flexible and choosing the GSoC scope is up to you. How much work should be a good limit for you and the organisation so that neither you nor organisation feel you have done less/lot work. Is 40 hours per week for 3 months is a good limit? |
| 16:09.38 | stqism | gsocker: That is a full work week here :) |
| 16:10.03 | ChristianM | gsocker: I guess you are talknig about the student, right? |
| 16:10.21 | gsocker | Yes |
| 16:10.47 | umccullough | i would guess 30-40 hours/week would be expected as average |
| 16:11.13 | ChristianM | yes, think so too. But in the end it's about the work done and that the student and the mentor feel comfortable with the amount |
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| 16:12.07 | umccullough | correct, you're not evaluated based on how much time you put in, but how well you did the project |
| 16:12.17 | umccullough | at least, that's how our org does it |
| 16:12.24 | ChristianM | same here |
| 16:12.26 | bob_beck | we're going strictly on results. |
| 16:12.41 | gsocker | It is about developing a new plugin so you can add tons of features. |
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| 16:12.56 | ash123 | logs |
| 16:13.02 | ash123 | !logs |
| 16:13.02 | gsocbot | ash123: "logs" is http://ibot.rikers.org/%23gsoc/ |
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| 16:14.14 | gsocker | Actually, there are some part that must need to be complete and other are flexible, do as many as possible |
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| 16:15.12 | gsocker | so there is no borderline for gsoc term |
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| 16:16.25 | hornig_ARDN | I also tell the student that I expect them to be available for thos 40hrs/week and work. but they cann decide when to work and the milestones we planned together with them have to be reached |
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| 16:31.33 | nextgens | bob_beck> please consider making BN_clear_free() BN_free()... and see if implementing BN_free_fast/insecure/whatever() is worth it |
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| 16:31.57 | carols | nextgens: is that meant for this channel? |
| 16:32.01 | nextgens | sorry |
| 16:32.06 | carols | np |
| 16:32.21 | SHMD | openSSL discussion here :p |
| 16:32.33 | carols | a great thing to have in another channel :-) |
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| 17:05.15 | KK4MGV | bob_beck: see pm |
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| 17:09.19 | res0 | hi fuzzie |
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| 17:10.49 | carols | res0: want to take it to a PM? |
| 17:10.50 | carols | thanks |
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| 17:11.32 | scorche|sh | fuzzie: yes - this is a slow period in this channel for now =) |
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| 17:29.14 | carols | serves some more tea and coffee |
| 17:30.04 | ChristianM | incidentally just made himself a cappucino :) |
| 17:30.11 | carols | :-) |
| 17:30.27 | y_morin | goes for dinner, ready for the upcoming meeting. :-) |
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| 17:31.25 | appleseed_render | hi there all, just to confirm the meeting starts in about an hour and a half right, time zones are confusing me |
| 17:31.32 | carols | appleseed_render: correct |
| 17:31.36 | appleseed_render | great thanks |
| 17:31.40 | carols | yw |
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| 17:31.59 | ChristianM | haha, and I thought in 30 minutes, there we go again with timezone |
| 17:32.02 | y_morin | Should we announce what organisation we're representing? |
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| 17:32.10 | carols | y_morin: no, no need |
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| 17:32.14 | y_morin | K |
| 17:32.20 | Robert_V_JOOMLA | sorry lost connection |
| 17:32.21 | carols | y_morin: but if i call your org you has best be available :-) |
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| 17:32.49 | y_morin | carols: The whole point of me being here! :-) |
| 17:32.54 | carols | exactly |
| 17:33.01 | JordiGH | Am I too late for the dedup meeting? |
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| 17:33.13 | carols | JordiGH: no, it’s not until 19:00 UTC |
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| 17:33.37 | chad____ | I believe the meeting starts in either about a half hour, or an hour and a half :p |
| 17:33.42 | stqism | carols: And now I wonder how you talk to a specific org in the event of a conflict, as everyone has another name |
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| 17:33.50 | stqism | chad____: Hour and a half :) |
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| 17:33.59 | carols | stqism: i ask them to present themselves. |
| 17:34.02 | JordiGH | Oh, in an hour and a half. |
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| 17:34.05 | JordiGH | Ok. |
| 17:34.23 | 7JTAAGZI6 | !countdown |
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| 17:34.24 | gsocbot | 7JTAAGZI6: "countdown" is Don't start countdown. You will be kicked. |
| 17:34.26 | carols | stqism: it’s really not that complicated. |
| 17:34.31 | carols | thanks gsocbot |
| 17:34.56 | downey | :) |
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| 17:34.59 | ModiModi | Am i early for meeting? |
| 17:35.06 | stqism | carols: Well, it is my first time going through all this, I like to know |
| 17:35.09 | carols | ModiModi: yes, you are |
| 17:35.21 | carols | stqism: it will also all be explained during the meeting too. |
| 17:35.26 | olasd | maybe a topic change would be appropriate re. the meeting? |
| 17:35.33 | ChristianM | stqism: so you wait for a line similar to "Step forward representant of $orgYouRepresent" and otherwise keep silent ;) |
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| 17:35.41 | chomu | ModiModi even u have applied for gsoc? |
| 17:35.42 | carols | olasd: sure, what do you think i need to mention that’s confusing for people? |
| 17:35.46 | stqism | carols: Lack of ignorance is still bliss :) |
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| 17:35.59 | stqism | ChristianM: Works for me |
| 17:36.31 | chomu | ModiModi ur organization is BJP? |
| 17:36.35 | chomu | :-) |
| 17:36.38 | olasd | carols: "Deduplication meeting starting at 19:00 UTC" ? |
| 17:36.48 | stqism | olasd: Hour and a half, so yes :) |
| 17:36.55 | carols | olasd: sure. i guess the timeline and the emails aren’t enough? |
| 17:37.00 | carols | you’re probably right. |
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| 17:37.07 | olasd | carols: they never are :/ |
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| 17:37.44 | *** topic/#gsoc by carols -> The deduplication meeting is at 19:00 UTC today in this channel. | Students for GSoC 2014 will be announced on 21 April at 19:00 UTC, see the program timeline: http://goo.gl/Anraxm for more info | The Google Summer of Code 2014 mentoring orgs list is at: http://goo.gl/Qx6xLC |
| 17:37.59 | carols | olasd: yeah, you’re right. |
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| 17:38.31 | olasd | at least now it's right there when they join... |
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| 17:39.01 | ModiModi | slaps jkremser around a bit with a large trout |
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| 17:39.17 | esornep | is the meeting muted ... or is it open ?? |
| 17:39.20 | ChristianM | olasd: if they read the channel topic ;) |
| 17:39.23 | carols | ModiModi: you probably want to take this to a PM. not appropriate for this channel. |
| 17:39.27 | carols | esornep: the meeting mutes the channel |
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| 17:40.34 | amtkhdkr | Modi, PM! :D |
| 17:40.34 | esornep | i have a doubt how will one know whether the ones on the list are students or mentors ?? |
| 17:40.39 | downey | carols: Will we need to change our nicks for this meeting? |
| 17:40.46 | carols | esornep: what list? |
| 17:40.48 | carols | downey: no, no need |
| 17:40.53 | esornep | i mean the irc chat |
| 17:41.05 | carols | esornep: you don’t know. you have to ask. |
| 17:41.17 | esornep | oh okay |
| 17:41.26 | ChristianM | carols: I see potential for a dedup meeting FAQ ;) Would it make sense to create one in the wiki (for next years at least) |
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| 17:41.39 | carols | ChristianM: sure, if you have the time and inclination |
| 17:41.43 | carols | it’s one hour per year |
| 17:41.49 | carols | i have more important things to care about |
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| 17:42.15 | ChristianM | carols: yep sure, wasn't meant as a todo for you :) I will see what I can do |
| 17:42.19 | carols | thanks |
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| 17:42.48 | downey | carols: Sorry to bug you, but has the deduplication check run after the deadline for setting the accept flag? i.e., should we see the final duplications now? |
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| 17:43.17 | carols | downey: yes, the duplication script is running every hour or so, so whatever you see now is the current state of the world |
| 17:43.27 | downey | carols: Great. Thanks! |
| 17:43.30 | carols | yw |
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| 17:48.37 | carols | kblin: you around yet? :-) |
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| 17:49.47 | raveesh | hello |
| 17:49.52 | carols | hello raveesh |
| 17:49.58 | raveesh | is the irc meeting on yet ? |
| 17:50.02 | raveesh | for de-duplication |
| 17:50.05 | umccullough | one hour |
| 17:50.07 | carols | not for another hour and 10 minutes. |
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| 17:50.14 | raveesh | alright thanks :) |
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| 17:50.32 | adbern-benetech | I thought it was 1900 UTC? which is in 10 min? |
| 17:50.47 | Sebastian_Tor | no, 19:00 utc is in an hour |
| 17:50.48 | carols | adbern-benetech: it is 19:00 UTC. that’s in an hour and 10 minutes. |
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| 17:50.54 | stqism | abhgangwar: It's almost 18:00 UTC |
| 17:50.57 | downey | adbern-benetech: https://www.google.com/search?q=current+time+utc |
| 17:50.57 | Sebastian_Tor | you might be confused about daylight savings time in some places? |
| 17:50.59 | amtkhdkr | is there any way the bot can count how many people are online on this channel? |
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| 17:51.18 | stqism | amtkhdkr: No, but it's 517 |
| 17:51.24 | Sebastian_Tor | amtkhdkr: /names can help |
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| 17:51.31 | Sebastian_Tor | and I can't paste. |
| 17:51.41 | Sebastian_Tor | 19:50:24 -!- Irssi: #gsoc: Total of 515 nicks [6 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 509 normal] |
| 17:51.44 | Sebastian_Tor | there. |
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| 17:52.03 | stqism | Sebastian_Tor: 520 now |
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| 17:52.31 | carols | …and that’s all the counting we need to do for one day. |
| 17:52.33 | amtkhdkr | is there any upper limit to it? |
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| 17:53.02 | umccullough | none you should be worried about |
| 17:53.17 | *** topic/#gsoc by carols -> The deduplication meeting is at 19:00 UTC today (http://goo.gl/2J4vuj) in this channel. | Students for GSoC 2014 will be announced on 21 April at 19:00 UTC, see the program timeline: http://goo.gl/Anraxm for more info | The Google Summer of Code 2014 mentoring orgs list is at: http://goo.gl/Qx6xLC |
| 17:53.19 | stqism | amtkhdkr: No, but freenode opers might get annoyed with a million people in a channel |
| 17:53.34 | amtkhdkr | just curious umccullough :) |
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| 17:53.46 | umccullough | you can probably ask in #freenode |
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| 17:54.10 | stqism | umccullough: I don't think the network itself imposes any technical limits |
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| 17:54.22 | umccullough | well, they would be more likely to know anyway |
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| 17:54.40 | stqism | Plus this isn't really the place :) |
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| 17:59.02 | nodeman | . |
| 17:59.15 | stqism | ... |
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| 17:59.39 | nodeman | stqism: Isn't it supposed to be muted? |
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| 17:59.56 | olasd | it's not |
| 18:00.01 | carols | nodeman: not for another hour |
| 18:00.05 | stqism | nodeman: It isn't even time |
| 18:00.06 | nodeman | Oh okay. |
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| 18:00.29 | stqism | carols: Is daylight savings that bad? :) |
| 18:00.35 | carols | stqism: bad? |
| 18:00.41 | CFS-MP3 | how is this going to work, carols? Will you be calling orgs by name? |
| 18:01.00 | dbpediaspotlight | hi everyone! |
| 18:01.02 | carols | CFS-MP3: firstly, it will all be explained at the meeting time. secondly, yes, i’ll just call representatives from the orgs. |
| 18:01.05 | stqism | carols: In the sense that a bunch of people think 18 :00 UTC is 19:00 UTC |
| 18:01.13 | carols | stqism: well, they are wrong :-) |
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| 18:01.33 | olasd | timezones are confusing even without DST |
| 18:01.38 | umccullough | indeed |
| 18:01.41 | ddutta | Y |
| 18:01.51 | brlcad | carols: sorry about that delay, someone was disqualified recently and we were shuffling selections around -- all fixed now |
| 18:01.59 | carols | brlcad: okay, thanks :-) |
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| 18:02.02 | ddutta | When is the meeting |
| 18:02.06 | umccullough | in an hour |
| 18:02.06 | AI0867 | in an hour |
| 18:02.10 | AI0867 | ninja'd |
| 18:02.12 | ddutta | Thx |
| 18:02.19 | metabrainz-ruaok | waves at carols |
| 18:02.25 | carols | hi metabrainz-ruaok :-) |
| 18:02.33 | metabrainz-ruaok | :) |
| 18:02.38 | CFS-MP3 | carols OK... will you be calling orgs with no duplicates? I know we have to be here but want to know what to expect |
| 18:02.53 | carols | CFS-MP3: no. if you don’t end up in a duplicate situation you will not be called. |
| 18:03.01 | carols | but we don’t know if that will happen until it does. |
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| 18:03.31 | brlcad | CFS-MP3: sometimes resolving a duplicate with one or will create a new one with another, just fyi |
| 18:03.31 | carols | which is why i wish orgs would resolve their duplicates before the meeting so i can just tell everyone they can go back to their lives. |
| 18:03.34 | carols | but that never happens. |
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| 18:03.52 | AI0867 | we resolved ours |
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| 18:04.06 | AI0867 | but that's no guarantee no new ones will pop up |
| 18:04.14 | carols | indeed. |
| 18:04.22 | metabrainz-ruaok | isn't sure if carols is being facetious or not |
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| 18:04.35 | stqism | AI0867: We tried to prevent ours from happening by asking about applied to orgs |
| 18:04.38 | carols | metabrainz-ruaok: i’m not being facetious. i wish we didn’t have to have this meeting :-) |
| 18:04.42 | amtkhdkr | !facetious |
| 18:04.50 | metabrainz-ruaok | ack that |
| 18:04.55 | ankush92 | treating serious issues with deliberately inappropriate humour; flippant. |
| 18:05.09 | mordante | stqism, but you won't know whether the student answers that question honestly |
| 18:05.12 | kreynen | stqism: we did that too and resolved the only conflict… |
| 18:05.16 | amtkhdkr | ankush92 :) |
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| 18:06.21 | stqism | mordante: No, but the duplicates section in melange helped. most of our students we did choose did dedicate a large amount of time working with us, but something /might/ come up |
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| 18:08.17 | ChristianM | carols: https://gsoc-wiki.osuosl.org/index.php/Deduplication_Meeting_FAQ :) |
| 18:08.24 | mordante | stqism, true, also if you have students spending a lot of time at your project it's hard for them to dedicate time to another project |
| 18:08.29 | kreynen | mordante: you wouldn't know until the dedupe check… then if they didn't you could think twice about giving them a slot |
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| 18:09.35 | tian2992 | hello, a proposed mentor contacted me regarding duplication |
| 18:10.33 | cpg | ChristianM: that page is password protected for me. is that intended? (i may have one Q/A to be added to it) |
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| 18:11.09 | ChristianM | cpg you mean the http auth? I think that is normal |
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| 18:11.19 | ChristianM | I don't remember exactly how you got the credentials |
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| 18:11.22 | mordante | kreynen, why think twice, I mean we also like to have more applications as we have slots |
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| 18:11.27 | cpg | why would it not be a public page? |
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| 18:11.48 | ChristianM | cpg I don't remember, sorry. best ask carols |
| 18:11.52 | kreynen | mordante: if the student isn't answering questions honestly in their proposal? |
| 18:11.56 | carols | ChristianM: great, thanks |
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| 18:13.52 | amtkhdkr | A public page would mean one with no authorization process. That page requires your credentials, which answers why it would not be a public page :) |
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| 18:14.33 | kreynen | spectie: our conflicting student got a slot w/ Apertium, right? |
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| 18:14.45 | carols | kreynen: want to take this to a PM? |
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| 18:14.50 | mordante | kreynen, true, but IMO when you ask a student whether s/he has multiple applications, you can expect them to be dishonest. I think that kind of question shouldn't be asked |
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| 18:15.51 | stqism | mordante: Lying? That's like asking us to disregard your proposal :) |
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| 18:16.40 | panzone | in fact, why should i lie about it ? |
| 18:16.48 | spectie | dedup meeting now ? |
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| 18:16.58 | olasd | in 43 minutes |
| 18:17.01 | spectie | oops |
| 18:17.01 | carols | spectie: it’s all in the channel topic. |
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| 18:17.03 | spectie | in 43 mins |
| 18:17.03 | spectie | ok :) |
| 18:17.14 | spectie | thanks |
| 18:17.25 | droy | hi carols |
| 18:17.27 | carols | olasd: i see the channel topic doesn’t matter either. |
| 18:17.29 | carols | hi droy |
| 18:17.31 | olasd | carols: Google doesn't do inception yet? |
| 18:17.37 | tian2992 | saurabhsood91, ping |
| 18:17.40 | carols | olasd: not yet. |
| 18:17.43 | stqism | panzone: +1, we appreciate honesty from students |
| 18:17.49 | saurabhsood91 | tian2992: pong. pm? |
| 18:17.51 | olasd | too bad |
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| 18:18.05 | droy | are the final selection of student proposals by orgs completed ? |
| 18:18.11 | carols | droy: almost. |
| 18:18.22 | droy | ok :) |
| 18:18.22 | mordante | stqism, on certain questions yes. Well I would first need to become a student again before I could apply ;-) |
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| 18:20.01 | panzone | oh, i' m too much nervous |
| 18:20.12 | carols | panzone: have some tea. |
| 18:20.15 | carols | serves some tea |
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| 18:20.21 | spectie | :) |
| 18:20.34 | downey | carols: better hide the sugar bowl |
| 18:20.40 | ergaurav | :D |
| 18:20.41 | carols | downey: i guess so |
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| 18:22.33 | amtkhdkr | serves some more tea |
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| 18:24.08 | raveesh | thanks ChristianM |
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| 18:31.32 | hornig_ARDN | ahoi, cannot wait for the gsoc meeting to start :) |
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| 18:32.15 | spectie | in the list of proposals, should the status be 'accepted' or 'pending' for those proposals we would like to accept (e.g. we have marked them on the individual proposal pages with 'Yes') |
| 18:32.32 | ChristianM | spectie: AFAIK pending still until monday |
| 18:32.35 | spectie | ChristianM, great |
| 18:32.36 | spectie | thanks |
| 18:32.43 | spectie | i was a bit worried for a sec |
| 18:33.08 | carols | spectie: if you haven’t been getting hourly emails from me trying to get you to fix your proposals you’re fine |
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| 18:33.21 | sbeyer | hi |
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| 18:33.25 | spectie | carols, :) |
| 18:33.29 | carols | hi sbeyer |
| 18:33.30 | spectie | good |
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| 18:34.56 | Slurpee | hi spectie |
| 18:35.00 | spectie | hey Slurpee ! |
| 18:35.02 | spectie | hows it going ? |
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| 18:35.22 | Slurpee | spectie, enjoying awesome weather and stable wifi :) |
| 18:35.26 | Slurpee | how about you? |
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| 18:35.37 | spectie | same here |
| 18:35.42 | spectie | it's pretty nice in bloomington |
| 18:35.46 | spectie | 17° or so |
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| 18:36.25 | sbeyer | hey ScaffoldHunter_K ;) |
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| 18:37.06 | ScaffoldHunter_K | sbeyer: Hi there |
| 18:37.42 | scorche|sh | carols: i see you asking in the backlog for kblin - anything i can help with? |
| 18:37.52 | carols | scorche|sh: do you know what’s going on with samba? |
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| 18:38.03 | scorche|sh | definitely not then =) |
| 18:38.08 | carols | yeah :-) |
| 18:38.16 | carols | but thanks for asking |
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| 18:39.21 | gopesh | !next |
| 18:39.23 | gsocbot | gopesh: "next" is Students for Google Summer of Code 2014 will be announced on 21 April, 2014 at 19:00 UTC |
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| 18:39.58 | aghisla | time tu put admin hats on? |
| 18:40.00 | venkit07 | !logs |
| 18:40.00 | gsocbot | venkit07: "logs" is http://ibot.rikers.org/%23gsoc/ |
| 18:40.11 | carols | aghisla: almost |
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| 18:43.47 | carols | hi folks, meeting starts in about 15 minutes. i’ll mute the channel in about 10. |
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| 18:44.36 | hornig_ARDN | cool, carols, thanks |
| 18:44.37 | ChristianM | has his mouth totally shut up. |
| 18:44.41 | carols | hornig_ARDN: yw |
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| 18:45.30 | sbeyer | i'm just watching the show, hoping that i can be quiet the whole time ;) [sitting here in a café with friends..] |
| 18:45.34 | downey | prepares a giant pot of tea for the meeting. http://www.sumoflam.biz/OhioPennWeb/GiantTeapot.jpg |
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| 18:45.40 | carols | thanks downey |
| 18:45.41 | carols | :-) |
| 18:45.44 | syncdifferent_wa | Mmmm tea |
| 18:45.50 | gentoo_dberkholz | please ping me if anything creates a dupe for us, i'll be hanging around but not watching closely |
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| 18:46.05 | carols | gentoo_dberkholz: i’ll call your org’s name |
| 18:46.12 | carols | so make sure you pay attention for that. |
| 18:46.15 | gentoo_dberkholz | k |
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| 18:46.20 | gentoo_dberkholz | adds a highlight |
| 18:46.22 | Tor|Sebastian | having the org prefix helps too :) |
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| 18:48.25 | obf-haskell|choe | ;-) |
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| 18:50.35 | cleinias | irc newbie here. How do change nick? |
| 18:50.40 | dirkhh | gets a quick bite to eat before the meeting starts... |
| 18:50.44 | GNU|jemarch | cleinias: /nick NEW_NICK |
| 18:50.46 | madhu|melange | cleinias: /nick <newname> |
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| 18:50.52 | Arthur_D | what's the preferred nick format? org_nick, or nick_org? |
| 18:50.55 | carols | hi folks, meeting is in 10 minutes. i’ll be muting the channel in 5. |
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| 18:50.57 | SymPy|asmeurer | org first |
| 18:51.01 | SymPy|asmeurer | so that it sorts nicely |
| 18:51.03 | Arthur_D | thanks |
| 18:51.06 | CopyleftGame|Arc | org first |
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| 18:51.55 | ConcordConsortiu | My org name is long "The Concord Consortium", will you find it if I just use tcc_ ? |
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| 18:52.10 | olasd | so the "no need to change your nick" ship sailed away, I gather |
| 18:52.13 | carols | ConcordConsortiu: sure. or just ping me when and if i call your org. |
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| 18:53.10 | hornig_ARDN | for me it's AerospaceResearch.net = ARDN. but as far as I see we don't have duplicates and will just wait for the show :) |
| 18:53.13 | Haiku|umcculloug | olasd, if you're paying attention when your org is called, you're fine i suspect |
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| 18:53.29 | Tor|Sebastian | it mostly helps other orgs to figure out who to talk to |
| 18:53.32 | carols | what Haiku|umcculloug said. |
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| 18:53.37 | Tor|Sebastian | or catch you when you're sleeping ;) |
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| 18:53.54 | CristianRM | 7 minutes |
| 18:54.00 | nemesis_ | hi everybody |
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| 18:54.01 | carols | CristianRM: no countdowns |
| 18:54.02 | carols | thanks |
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| 18:54.22 | nemesis_ | i'm from the Freifunk org |
| 18:54.27 | nemesis_ | Federico Capoano |
| 18:54.34 | carols | nemesis_: great, have a seat. |
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| 18:54.53 | carols | thanks syncdiff|warty9 |
| 18:54.53 | downey | ooh |
| 18:55.00 | Haiku|umcculloug | adds a healthy dose of honey jack to his coffee for this meeting |
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| 18:55.18 | carols | hi everyone, i’ve muted the channel for now |
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| 18:55.25 | carols | the meeting starts in 5 minutes |
| 18:55.29 | carols | ill give you all instructions then |
| 18:55.36 | carols | for now, just have a seat and we’ll get started soon |
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| 18:56.17 | kblin | carols: hey there, let me know if you need any help running the show |
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| 18:58.35 | carols | hi folks, channel is muted. we’ll start in about 2 minutes |
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| 19:00.07 | carols | ===BEGIN GSOC 2014 IRC DEDUPLICATION MEETING=== |
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| 19:00.09 | carols | Hi everyone |
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| 19:00.11 | carols | thanks for coming |
| 19:00.20 | carols | i’m hoping to have everyone out of here very quickly |
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| 19:00.25 | carols | we currently have 8 duplicates |
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| 19:00.41 | carols | i will go through my list and call a representative for each org involved in the duplication |
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| 19:00.54 | carols | i’ll give you a minute or so to ping either myself or kblin for voice |
| 19:01.02 | carols | at that point we’ll discuss the duplicate |
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| 19:01.16 | carols | if neither org can come to an agreement i will decide arbitrarily |
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| 19:01.34 | carols | if an org ends up not represented in this meeting, the student automatically goes to the other org |
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| 19:01.40 | carols | so with that, let’s get started! |
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| 19:01.58 | carols | first up: i need representatives from Sugar Labs and Systers, please |
| 19:02.08 | carols | please PM either myself or kblin for voice. |
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| 19:02.14 | *** mode/#gsoc [+v Systers|Rose] by kblin |
| 19:02.26 | carols | hi Systers|Rose |
| 19:02.36 | Systers|Rose | hi carol |
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| 19:02.58 | carols | have we got someone from sugar, kblin? |
| 19:02.58 | kblin | sugarlabs anybody? |
| 19:03.11 | carols | anyone from sugar labs. going once. |
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| 19:03.34 | carols | anyone, kblin? |
| 19:03.38 | kblin | nope |
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| 19:03.40 | carols | going twice |
| 19:03.49 | kblin | I'll holler if I get a PM :) |
| 19:04.02 | carols | okay, we’ll give it just a few more seconds here |
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| 19:04.15 | kblin | hang on |
| 19:04.20 | carols | okay |
| 19:04.25 | kblin | ah, no |
| 19:04.27 | kblin | sorry |
| 19:04.30 | carols | alright |
| 19:04.37 | carols | ana balica goes to Systers |
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| 19:04.40 | carols | so it is noted |
| 19:04.41 | Systers|Rose | thanks! |
| 19:04.43 | carols | thanks Systers|Rose |
| 19:04.47 | Systers|Rose | sure |
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| 19:04.47 | *** mode/#gsoc [-v Systers|Rose] by carols |
| 19:04.49 | carols | alright |
| 19:05.00 | carols | just a sec while i record that |
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| 19:05.24 | carols | okay, next i need representatives from M-Lab and NMap, please |
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| 19:05.34 | carols | please pm myself or kblin for voice |
| 19:05.37 | *** mode/#gsoc [+v nmap|fyodor] by kblin |
| 19:05.40 | nmap|fyodor | Hi Carol. M-Lab was gracious enough to offer Claudiu to us. Tiziana said: "I just had a chat with Claudiu and he explained to me that he would prefer to work on Nmap. I think his explanation is reasonable and I believe it makes sense to respect students’ preferences whenever possible." |
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| 19:05.53 | carols | okay, thanks nmap|fyodor |
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| 19:06.05 | carols | let me reflect that on the proposals, hold on |
| 19:06.37 | carols | okay, the student goes to nmap |
| 19:06.41 | *** mode/#gsoc [-v nmap|fyodor] by carols |
| 19:06.44 | carols | next up |
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| 19:06.59 | carols | i need representatives from liquid galaxy and PCL please |
| 19:07.09 | carols | please PM myself or kblin for voice |
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| 19:07.22 | kblin | hang on |
| 19:07.32 | *** mode/#gsoc [+v endpoint_ben2] by kblin |
| 19:07.33 | *** mode/#gsoc [+v endpoint_ben2] by carols |
| 19:07.36 | carols | hi endpoint_ben2 |
| 19:07.41 | endpoint_ben2 | Hi, I am here for the Liquid Galaxy Project. We are sorry to give up Andrei, but his preference is for PCL, and we will respect that. |
| 19:07.52 | carols | alright, can you please unaccept that proposal? |
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| 19:07.57 | endpoint_ben2 | will do |
| 19:08.05 | carols | thanks, student goes to PCL |
| 19:08.07 | carols | so notes |
| 19:08.10 | carols | noted |
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| 19:08.26 | carols | next up i need representatives from freenet and biomedical informatics at emory, please |
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| 19:08.47 | *** mode/#gsoc [-v Freenet|nextgens] by carols |
| 19:08.55 | *** mode/#gsoc [+v EmoryBMI|Michel] by carols |
| 19:09.06 | *** mode/#gsoc [+v EmoryBMI|hrathod] by carols |
| 19:09.12 | carols | alright |
| 19:09.14 | carols | is that everyone? |
| 19:09.16 | *** mode/#gsoc [+v Freenet|nextgens] by kblin |
| 19:09.23 | Freenet|nextgens | thanks |
| 19:09.27 | carols | alright |
| 19:09.30 | EmoryBMI|Michel | everyone on our end, thanks |
| 19:09.32 | EmoryBMI|hrathod | Thanks |
| 19:09.33 | carols | have you guys spoken yet? |
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| 19:09.41 | Freenet|nextgens | nope, it's a new conflict |
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| 19:09.45 | carols | alright |
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| 19:10.17 | carols | student in question is pradeeban |
| 19:10.21 | EmoryBMI|Michel | after looking at the Freenet project, we think it might be a better fit for the student |
| 19:10.22 | carols | Freenet|nextgens: your thoughts? |
| 19:10.48 | Freenet|nextgens | we're happy either ways |
| 19:11.04 | carols | Freenet|nextgens: okay, it sounds like EmoryBMI|Michel would like the student. are you ok with that? |
| 19:11.22 | Freenet|nextgens | yes, so be it |
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| 19:11.33 | carols | okay, so noted. Freenet|nextgens, can you please unaccept the student? |
| 19:11.39 | Freenet|nextgens | yes |
| 19:11.41 | carols | you’re welcome to select another in his/her place if you like. |
| 19:11.47 | carols | great. student goes to emory |
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| 19:11.52 | EmoryBMI|Michel | ok, thanks |
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| 19:11.56 | carols | thanks |
| 19:12.03 | *** mode/#gsoc [-v EmoryBMI|Michel] by carols |
| 19:12.14 | *** mode/#gsoc [-v Freenet|nextgens] by carols |
| 19:12.17 | carols | alright |
| 19:12.32 | carols | next i need representatives from centre for computational medicine and systers, please |
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| 19:12.38 | carols | pm me or kblin for voice |
| 19:12.43 | *** mode/#gsoc [+v Systers|Rose] by kblin |
| 19:12.52 | *** mode/#gsoc [+v ccm_sdumitriu] by kblin |
| 19:12.52 | *** mode/#gsoc [-v ccm_sdumitriu] by carols |
| 19:12.55 | *** mode/#gsoc [+v ccm_sdumitriu] by kblin |
| 19:12.57 | ccm_sdumitriu | That's solved already |
| 19:12.57 | kblin | :) |
| 19:13.00 | Systers|Rose | ccm and Systers resolved Shruti |
| 19:13.14 | kblin | awesome, I guess one of you needs to unaccept the student then |
| 19:13.21 | carols | okay great |
| 19:13.21 | ccm_sdumitriu | We did |
| 19:13.21 | Systers|Rose | she will go to systers, we resolved earlier this week with another org |
| 19:13.28 | carols | okay, student goes to systers |
| 19:13.29 | Systers|Rose | thanks |
| 19:13.32 | carols | thanks everyone |
| 19:13.36 | kblin | you people rock |
| 19:13.40 | *** mode/#gsoc [-v ccm_sdumitriu] by carols |
| 19:13.42 | *** mode/#gsoc [-v Systers|Rose] by carols |
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| 19:13.45 | carols | okay, next |
| 19:13.45 | *** mode/#gsoc [-vv ccm_sdumitriu Systers|Rose] by kblin |
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| 19:13.54 | carols | i need representatives from melange and typo3, please |
| 19:14.01 | *** mode/#gsoc [+v Melange|Nathanie] by kblin |
| 19:14.07 | *** mode/#gsoc [+v TYPO3|ChristianM] by kblin |
| 19:14.13 | carols | great |
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| 19:14.15 | carols | that was fast |
| 19:14.21 | carols | have you folks spoken yet? |
| 19:14.23 | *** mode/#gsoc [+v melange|madhu] by kblin |
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| 19:14.30 | kblin | sorry, typo :) |
| 19:14.32 | TYPO3|ChristianM | carols currently in pm |
| 19:14.34 | melange|madhu | no |
| 19:14.35 | carols | alright |
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| 19:14.46 | melange|madhu | this is a duplicate that came up in the last hour or so |
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| 19:15.00 | melange|madhu | TYPO3|ChristianM: we don't really have a good backup proposal to fill in |
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| 19:15.24 | melange|madhu | we would very much appreciate if you could give us Denys |
| 19:15.25 | TYPO3|ChristianM | melange|madhu: that's fine it was our 4th proposal, we won't have a backup as well, but I am fine to give to you |
| 19:15.36 | carols | alright, so the student goes to melange? |
| 19:15.36 | melange|madhu | TYPO3|ChristianM: thank you! |
| 19:15.39 | TYPO3|ChristianM | yep |
| 19:15.41 | carols | okay |
| 19:15.43 | Melange|Nathanie | We thank you greatly. |
| 19:15.44 | carols | student goes to melange |
| 19:15.50 | carols | TYPO3|ChristianM: can you please unaccept the student? |
| 19:15.54 | TYPO3|ChristianM | and we can give probably give the slot back |
| 19:15.58 | carols | great |
| 19:15.59 | carols | thanks |
| 19:16.01 | TYPO3|ChristianM | done |
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| 19:16.06 | TYPO3|ChristianM | unaccepted |
| 19:16.07 | carols | great |
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| 19:16.11 | *** mode/#gsoc [-vv Melange|Nathanie melange|madhu] by kblin |
| 19:16.13 | *** mode/#gsoc [+v Melange|Nathanie] by carols |
| 19:16.18 | carols | next up |
| 19:16.18 | *** mode/#gsoc [-vv Melange|Nathanie melange|madhu] by kblin |
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| 19:16.28 | carols | i need representatives from netfiler and gnu project, please |
| 19:16.34 | *** mode/#gsoc [+v Netfilter|Regit] by kblin |
| 19:16.40 | *** mode/#gsoc [+v GNU|jemarch] by kblin |
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| 19:16.59 | carols | is that everyone? |
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| 19:17.03 | GNU|jemarch | The gdb mentor is fine giving up this student to netfilter. |
| 19:17.04 | carols | i think so |
| 19:17.08 | carols | ah, great |
| 19:17.16 | Netfilter|Regit | OK, we are happy to accept him. |
| 19:17.19 | GNU|jemarch | I just unaccepted the proposal |
| 19:17.24 | carols | wonderful |
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| 19:17.29 | carols | student goes to netfilter |
| 19:17.34 | carols | so noted |
| 19:17.36 | Netfilter|Regit | Thanks to GNU project. |
| 19:17.44 | carols | alright |
| 19:17.47 | *** mode/#gsoc [-vv Netfilter|Regit GNU|jemarch] by kblin |
| 19:17.55 | carols | i need to rerun the duplication script |
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| 19:18.00 | carols | so everyone hold on just a second |
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| 19:18.15 | carols | we may get you out of here early yet |
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| 19:19.07 | carols | have some tea whie you wait. |
| 19:19.11 | carols | serves some tea |
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| 19:21.08 | kblin | Your attendance at the deduplication meeting is important to us. Please hold the line. The next free operator will be with you shortly. |
| 19:21.14 | carols | okay, great. we’ve resolved all the duplicates. thanks everyone for coming to the meeting, you can all go on with your lives now. :-) |
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| 19:21.29 | carols | ==END GSOC 2014 IRC DEDUPLICATION MEETING== |
| 19:21.30 | kblin | awesome :) |
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| 19:21.33 | *** mode/#gsoc [-m] by carols |
| 19:21.33 | bio4j | quit |
| 19:21.34 | Systers|Rose | thanks! |
| 19:21.35 | HISP_sunbiz | Thanks!! |
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| 19:21.36 | stqism | carols: That was far less entertaining than I hoped it would be. |
| 19:21.37 | sympy|ondrej | Thanks, that was fast. |
| 19:21.37 | ddutta | Hi |
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| 19:21.37 | OSGeo|aghisla | yay! thanks all |
| 19:21.38 | dims-openstack | thanks |
| 19:21.38 | Haiku|umcculloug | \o/ |
| 19:21.38 | carols | cheers |
| 19:21.41 | Sage|schilly | nice |
| 19:21.41 | LCDM|ProfRJB | Thanks! |
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| 19:21.41 | IMS | Thanks! |
| 19:21.42 | appleseed_render | thats great! |
| 19:21.42 | ton_blender | thanks carols |
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| 19:21.45 | Buildroot|ymorin | carols: Great work! Thanks! :-) |
| 19:21.46 | phpMyAdmin|Atul | Thanks! |
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| 19:21.46 | ddutta | What about openstack |
| 19:21.46 | OGDF_sbeyer | thank you all |
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| 19:21.48 | NetSurf|tlsa | carols: thanks! |
| 19:21.49 | Subsurface|dirkh | so does this mean that all the ones we accepted are now accepted, carols? |
| 19:21.50 | oVirt|bkp | Thanks, carols |
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| 19:21.51 | SuperTuxKart|Art | much obliged |
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| 19:22.00 | cryos | Thank you very much for all your hard work! |
| 19:22.00 | raxa_staticbit | Thanks |
| 19:22.00 | ns-3|Tpec | Cheers Carol |
| 19:22.02 | hornig_ARDN | thank you carols and kblin, and everyone a happy easter weekend! :) |
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| 19:22.04 | rturk-ceph | thanks, carols and kblin :) |
| 19:22.04 | carols | Subsurface|dirkh: not until monday. |
| 19:22.09 | stqism | So many people leaving |
| 19:22.11 | TYPO3|ChristianM | thanks carols |
| 19:22.11 | jelena-eclipsefd | cheers everyone!" |
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| 19:22.15 | Subsurface|dirkh | ok, thanks carols |
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| 19:22.15 | stultus | Thanks carols :) |
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| 19:22.21 | OSUOSL|kennric | thanks carols ! |
| 19:22.21 | EmoryBMI|Michel | thanks, carols |
| 19:22.24 | OSGeo|aghisla | thanks carols and kblin! |
| 19:22.24 | TYPO3|ChristianM | and of course thanks kblin |
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| 19:22.26 | EmoryBMI|hrathod | Thanks carols and kblin! |
| 19:22.29 | TYPO3|ChristianM | and happy easter to all |
| 19:22.29 | CERN|lmoneta | thanks carol ! |
| 19:22.29 | *** part/#gsoc Evastine (~hesham@41.35.158.150) |
| 19:22.31 | stultus | and thanks kblin :) |
| 19:22.32 | umccullough | sends carols another highlight just for fun |
| 19:22.34 | appleseed_render | carols: so just to confirm appleseed renderer has no duplications thats great! |
| 19:22.37 | dbpediaspotlight | BYE BYE GUYS |
| 19:22.38 | pcl_aichim | thanks, carols ! :) |
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| 19:22.42 | OSGeo|aghisla | nick aghisla |
| 19:22.46 | sufficient | bye bye, thanks carols! |
| 19:22.48 | stqism | just bugging carols alongside umccullough |
| 19:22.48 | nickm | wishes that more things in the world were run as well as gsoc. |
| 19:22.48 | Sebastian_ | appleseed_render: nobody has any duplicate now. |
| 19:22.51 | ishitva | carols: may I ask if Bugzilla project has been accepted or not ? |
| 19:22.51 | olasd | yay us for a quick meeting |
| 19:22.53 | SHMD | Meeting of 22 minutes :P |
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| 19:23.02 | stqism | ishitva: Check the list on the site |
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| 19:23.25 | BPositive | no fights! sad :D |
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| 19:23.34 | ishitva | stqism: its under Mozilla , but I want to know if that particular project been accepted . |
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| 19:23.47 | carols | ishitva: that will be announced monday |
| 19:23.48 | Sebastian_ | ishitva: be patient |
| 19:23.59 | stqism | Patience is a virtue :) |
| 19:24.00 | ishitva | carols: I can hardly wait : |
| 19:24.01 | stultus | BPositive, :D and your nick says Be Positive :P |
| 19:24.02 | ishitva | :P |
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| 19:24.16 | sciruby_pjotrp | mohawkjohn: done |
| 19:24.22 | brlcad | sips his tea |
| 19:24.33 | BPositive | stultus, I was positive about some fights |
| 19:24.37 | umccullough | sips his honey jack infused coffee |
| 19:24.39 | BPositive | anyway |
| 19:24.43 | Linaro|Steve_McI | well done folks :-) |
| 19:24.44 | tatyana_biojs | carols: will it be possible for an org to get one more slot? |
| 19:24.50 | CarlFK | carols: thanks for putting up with all the questions and such. you always have such a uplifting attitude. |
| 19:24.57 | rvraghav93 | I expected some fights ;) |
| 19:25.01 | carols | CarlFK: yw :-) |
| 19:25.02 | ddutta | Carols: did openstack get called |
| 19:25.07 | kblin | nope |
| 19:25.07 | carols | ddutta: nope |
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| 19:25.16 | dims | ddutta, got resolved before the meeting started |
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| 19:25.35 | VarunAgw | 660 to 560 in 5 minutes. wow! |
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| 19:25.50 | phpBB|Yuriy | Thanks carols |
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| 19:25.54 | carols | yw phpBB|Yuriy |
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| 19:25.57 | IMS | Hi Carols, we IMS are definitely interested on an additional slot |
| 19:25.59 | coderush | VarunAgw, traffic .. |
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| 19:26.10 | carols | IMS: we don’t give out slots after the deduplication meeting |
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| 19:26.21 | IMS | OK! |
| 19:26.24 | ddutta | dims: ok cool. Today I am traveling ;-) |
| 19:26.26 | TYPO3|ChristianM | carols: but I can initiate a slot transfer, right? |
| 19:26.34 | dims | ddutta, haha :) |
| 19:26.36 | carols | TYPO3|ChristianM: back to the pool? yes, of course |
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| 19:26.40 | stqism | VarunAgw: Had to make sure it wasn't a netsplit :) |
| 19:26.42 | TYPO3|ChristianM | carols yep |
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| 19:26.46 | carols | TYPO3|ChristianM: assuming you don’t want to accept a different student |
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| 19:27.01 | olasd | .oO(rededuplication meeting) |
| 19:27.03 | TYPO3|ChristianM | carols: nope, checked that and would rather give it back to someone with a really awesome proposal |
| 19:27.11 | carols | TYPO3|ChristianM: great |
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| 19:27.19 | TYPO3|ChristianM | will do so in minute |
| 19:27.27 | VarunAgw | stqism, lol |
| 19:27.41 | gp94 | !numapps |
| 19:27.41 | gsocbot | gp94: "numapps" is 2014: 190/371 orgs; 6313 proposals submitted by 4420 students. 2013: 177/417 orgs; 1192/5999 proposals (by 4144 students). 2012: 180/406 orgs; 1212/6685 proposals (by 4258 students). 2011: 175/417 orgs; 1116/5474 proposals (by 3731 students). 2010: 151/367 orgs; 1026/5539 proposals (by 3464 students). |
| 19:27.48 | tatyana_biojs | TYPO3|ChristianM: BioJS has one more excellent proposal and would love to get a slot! |
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| 19:28.10 | carols | tatyana_biojs: we don’t give out slots after the duplication meeting |
| 19:28.30 | umccullough | in that case, what's the point of giving a slot back to the pool? |
| 19:28.33 | summatusmentis | hi kids |
| 19:28.34 | TYPO3|ChristianM | tatyana_biojs: I can just give the slot back and already got asked by three others |
| 19:28.41 | carols | umccullough: so that we accept the right proposals |
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| 19:28.58 | VarunAgw | summatusmentis, Hello uncle ;) |
| 19:29.02 | umccullough | so, basically it burns a slot permanently at this point? |
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| 19:29.09 | carols | umccullough: yep, as it does every year |
| 19:29.13 | umccullough | ok |
| 19:29.23 | umccullough | sounds like that's not understood by TYPO3|ChristianM |
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| 19:29.39 | IMS | burning out a slot? terrible....... |
| 19:29.43 | stqism | ^ |
| 19:29.59 | TYPO3|ChristianM | yep, thanks umccullough I thought there was a chance for another org to use it |
| 19:29.59 | tatyana_biojs | ok, thanks for your clear answer |
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| 19:30.51 | TYPO3|ChristianM | so carols basically that asks for going with a mediocre proposal and see how it goes until midterm^^ |
| 19:30.52 | carols | if i kept giving out slots after this meeting, we’d have to schedule more deduplication meetings after this one :-) |
| 19:30.55 | carols | what a waste that would be |
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| 19:30.59 | olasd | IMO it's better not to have a slot than failing a student at the midterm |
| 19:31.00 | TYPO3|ChristianM | but yes you are right |
| 19:31.10 | TYPO3|ChristianM | olasd: that's the question |
| 19:31.18 | olasd | failing students really sucks |
| 19:31.22 | kblin | TYPO3|ChristianM: it is |
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| 19:31.39 | TYPO3|ChristianM | olasd: totally, but my experience is that the proposal not always is the best indicator |
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| 19:32.02 | coderush | TYPO3|ChristianM, i disagree |
| 19:32.06 | kblin | right, but you sure interacted with all of the students that looked interesting, right? |
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| 19:32.17 | tatyana_biojs | mabye we could fail only those students who are in a duplicate situation and accept all others? |
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| 19:33.08 | TYPO3|ChristianM | coderush: in what way? I mean how do you see it? |
| 19:33.09 | gopesh | !logs |
| 19:33.09 | gsocbot | gopesh: "logs" is http://ibot.rikers.org/%23gsoc/ |
| 19:33.30 | VarunAgw | Is everything done now or organisations still have something to do till 21? |
| 19:33.31 | olasd | carols, kblin: I guess the topic needs another update now :p |
| 19:33.36 | TYPO3|ChristianM | kblin: yes we interacted with almost all students of course ;) |
| 19:33.39 | stqism | VarunAgw: I think we're done |
| 19:33.45 | *** topic/#gsoc by carols -> Students for GSoC 2014 will be announced on 21 April at 19:00 UTC, see the program timeline: http://goo.gl/Anraxm for more info | The Google Summer of Code 2014 mentoring orgs list is at: http://goo.gl/Qx6xLC |
| 19:34.09 | kblin | TYPO3|ChristianM: then I'd figure you have more than just the proposal to go by |
| 19:34.13 | umccullough | VarunAgw, entirely possible that an org might still fill an empty slot, or unaccept a proposal |
| 19:34.26 | umccullough | maybe only the latter |
| 19:34.28 | coderush | Proposal are best way to decide the commitment of a student .. the homework a student is doing.. in that way . |
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| 19:34.50 | TYPO3|ChristianM | kblin: sure, sure. I just thought if we can transfer the slot some org is in more dire need, but as the situation is now... |
| 19:34.54 | VarunAgw | umccullough, .."unaccept a proposal." That really scares me. |
| 19:35.12 | umccullough | stuff happens |
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| 19:35.29 | endpoint_ben2 | So we have a day to decide what alternative proposal to accept (and we do want to accept another proposal) for the one that we let go of in the de-duplication? |
| 19:35.31 | kblin | TYPO3|ChristianM: I see your point, but I'm wary at mentoring ressources |
| 19:35.47 | carols | endpoint_ben2: yes. i’d prefer you do it sooner rather than later, though |
| 19:35.58 | endpoint_ben2 | yes, thanks |
| 19:36.05 | carols | the longer you wait the less of a weekend i get. |
| 19:36.12 | endpoint_ben2 | Need to have a little more conversation with the candidate students. |
| 19:36.19 | endpoint_ben2 | ooo |
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| 19:36.31 | carols | can’t stop working until all the slots are accounted for |
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| 19:37.04 | IMS | I make the poit again that burning out slots is too sad....... |
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| 19:37.30 | VarunAgw | IMS, I guess they will be added next year. |
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| 19:38.23 | kblin | IMS: I'd argue that the time of the single person running GSoC is more valuable to the whole program than a handful of slots |
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| 19:38.54 | umccullough | s/time/sanity |
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| 19:39.05 | coderush | IMS, its not burning.. its the optimization |
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| 19:40.30 | IMS | Kblin: true but may be slots can be just given to other orgs and if a duplication arise then the slot is burned out |
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| 19:41.27 | RichieB | So no duplicates were resolved with sword fights this year. *sigh* I knew it was a myth ! |
| 19:41.59 | tatyana_biojs | I would support the idea of IMS, because we also have one more outstanding proposal |
| 19:42.00 | terri | RichieB: must have happened before the final meeting. ;) |
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| 19:42.40 | RichieB | terri : probably those mentors who didn't show up :D |
| 19:42.42 | coderush | so i knew rails guy won't come |
| 19:42.51 | amoghbl1 | !gsocbot |
| 19:42.52 | gsocbot | amoghbl1: "gsocbot" is http://gsoc-wiki.osuosl.org/index.php/Gsocbot |
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| 19:46.47 | thomasbonte_____ | thx carols, have a great weekend |
| 19:46.48 | carols | you too thomasbonte_____ |
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| 19:49.49 | TYPO3|ChristianM | carols: hope that you get a long weekend soonish :) I reassigned the slot, so from my side all set… |
| 19:49.57 | carols | TYPO3|ChristianM: okay, thanks |
| 19:50.06 | TYPO3|ChristianM | thank you :) |
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| 19:50.45 | IMS | Thanks Carols for your time, bye everybody, and for the ones who care, Happy Easter |
| 19:50.52 | carols | cheers |
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| 19:51.32 | TYPO3|ChristianM | cheers and bb |
| 19:52.08 | tatyana_biojs | Have a good weekend everyone! |
| 19:52.11 | walterbender | ciao |
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| 19:53.28 | y_morin | Bye all, thanks for all the fish! |
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| 19:55.08 | amoghbl1 | !next |
| 19:55.14 | gsocbot | amoghbl1: "next" is Students for Google Summer of Code 2014 will be announced on 21 April, 2014 at 19:00 UTC |
| 19:57.06 | gaurav_iiith | logs |
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| 19:57.22 | gaurav_iiith | !logs |
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| 19:57.25 | VarunAgw | !logs | gaurav_iiith |
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| 20:06.43 | VarunAgw | !proof |
| 20:06.45 | gsocbot | VarunAgw: "proof" is http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/document/show/gsoc_program/google/gsoc2014/proofofenrollment |
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| 20:12.04 | crucerucalin | !next |
| 20:12.04 | gsocbot | crucerucalin: "next" is Students for Google Summer of Code 2014 will be announced on 21 April, 2014 at 19:00 UTC |
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| 20:13.29 | nemesis_ | anybody knows anything about the mentor summit? |
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| 20:15.18 | downey | nemesis_: nothing announced yet, it's a bit early |
| 20:15.59 | downey | nemesis_: it has been stated here in the channel and at last year's summit that it would be at a different (larger) location near google HQ, but the specifics not yet announced |
| 20:16.36 | umccullough | i think i heard something about it being in san jose, but i'm not sure that was official |
| 20:16.44 | nemesis_ | ok.. i was asking cos i'd like to plan in advance |
| 20:17.05 | umccullough | you'd fly to the same airport anyway |
| 20:17.32 | umccullough | dates are on the timeline: http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/events/google/gsoc2014 |
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| 20:19.44 | raianknight | !logs |
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| 20:19.46 | carols | nemesis_: what do you want to know? |
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| 20:25.35 | thedarki | !дщпы |
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| 20:25.58 | raianknight | thedarki, russia? ;) |
| 20:26.03 | thedarki | ukraine |
| 20:26.04 | lj | logs |
| 20:26.05 | raianknight | hi |
| 20:26.08 | thedarki | hi |
| 20:26.10 | raianknight | oh) |
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| 20:26.34 | raianknight | are you accepted, what do you think? |
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| 20:27.24 | manikanta | hello |
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| 20:28.11 | carols | hi manikanta |
| 20:30.08 | manikanta | hello carols |
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| 20:31.11 | manikanta | I have a small doubt.... are students invited to the mentor summit this year ? if yes, then what are the things provided by google for students ? Sorry if this is not appropriate to ask :D :) |
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| 20:33.14 | TYPO3|ChristianM | manikanta: not that I would be totally against it but why do you think students will be invited this year? |
| 20:33.28 | carols | TYPO3|ChristianM: it’s already been announced that that’s the case. |
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| 20:34.17 | TYPO3|ChristianM | carols: ahh, didn't know that, sorry :) |
| 20:34.23 | TYPO3|ChristianM | cool |
| 20:34.23 | carols | np |
| 20:34.25 | downey | current and former students and mentors |
| 20:34.28 | CFS-MP3|CCExtrac | carols all of them? |
| 20:34.37 | carols | CFS-MP3|CCExtrac: all of them are invited, yes |
| 20:34.41 | carols | not all will attend though |
| 20:34.44 | manikanta | that will be awesome :D :D ! |
| 20:34.45 | TYPO3|ChristianM | ah yes, 10 year anniversary and all. nice |
| 20:34.56 | downey | carols: I assume there will be some kind of RSVP process. :-) |
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| 20:35.02 | carols | downey: indeed. |
| 20:35.25 | CFS-MP3|CCExtrac | I assume so... ours are from very far places. Will google pay for their travel, too? |
| 20:35.34 | carols | CFS-MP3|CCExtrac: for students? no. |
| 20:35.38 | CFS-MP3|CCExtrac | Ah OK |
| 20:35.42 | ramsub07 | Sorry if the question is very obvious. Is it at the Google HQ ? |
| 20:35.47 | carols | ramsub07: no, it’s not |
| 20:35.53 | CFS-MP3|CCExtrac | So they're invited to come but at their own expense |
| 20:35.59 | carols | CFS-MP3|CCExtrac: yes |
| 20:36.24 | ramsub07 | Where will it be ? Depends on the organization ? |
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| 20:36.28 | manikanta | what about stay and food ? is it a 1 week trip ? -- for students :D ? |
| 20:36.37 | downey | tries to imagine 20,000 people all bringing chocolate |
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| 20:37.41 | sidthekid | hehe, if Google payed for student travel then it would probably have to sell that old search engine its got :D |
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| 20:39.00 | manikanta | ha ha, obviously :) ;) !! |
| 20:39.30 | TYPO3|ChristianM | downey: we could build somthing like a ball bath (don't know how they are called) out of chocolate… great! |
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| 20:41.25 | VarunAgw | Are mentors and students both from last 10 years are invited? |
| 20:42.13 | Valodim | !next |
| 20:42.14 | gsocbot | Valodim: "next" is Students for Google Summer of Code 2014 will be announced on 21 April, 2014 at 19:00 UTC |
| 20:42.32 | nilspin | um,where can I find more information about the mentor summit? Or will google officially announce it after the program ends? |
| 20:43.14 | carols | nilspin: google will announce it as soon as she gets 5 free minutes to plan it. |
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| 20:43.37 | carols | i’ve been a bit busy with deduplication and making sure students are accepted correctly |
| 20:43.39 | VarunAgw | Here is a link on FAQ but it is asking for authentication. http://gsoc-wiki.osuosl.org/index.php/Main_Page |
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| 20:44.14 | carols | VarunAgw: firstly, that’s just for mentors. secondly, the page will be different this year. |
| 20:44.37 | VarunAgw | oh ok |
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| 20:44.49 | CFS-MP3|CCExtrac | carols If you take suggestions... if it's not in Mountain View then consider East coast so Europeans have it a bit easier :-) |
| 20:44.59 | carols | CFS-MP3|CCExtrac: nope, i’m not taking suggestions |
| 20:45.00 | lj | How can I get the logs from this channel for today? |
| 20:45.07 | carols | i’m going to do it in the way that causes me the east stress |
| 20:45.12 | VarunAgw | lj, Come tomorrow |
| 20:45.17 | CFS-MP3|CCExtrac | fair enough :-) |
| 20:45.22 | lj | :okay: |
| 20:45.54 | VarunAgw | lj, or I can message you logs for last few hours |
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| 20:46.14 | lj | that would be great |
| 20:47.04 | downey | CFS-MP3|CCExtrac: there might be enough interest for a crowd-sourced/crowd-planned event in zurich |
| 20:47.12 | downey | at least so i've heard ;-) |
| 20:47.44 | TYPO3|ChristianM | lj VarunAgw I think you can use !logs |
| 20:47.48 | TYPO3|ChristianM | !logs |
| 20:47.48 | gsocbot | TYPO3|ChristianM: "logs" is http://ibot.rikers.org/%23gsoc/ |
| 20:47.51 | TYPO3|ChristianM | there you go |
| 20:48.13 | VarunAgw | TYPO3|ChristianM, It doesn't show latest logs (today) |
| 20:48.19 | TYPO3|ChristianM | ah |
| 20:48.35 | VarunAgw | Ìû |
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| 20:48.49 | TYPO3|ChristianM | sorry, didn't know that |
| 20:48.50 | lj | Thanks mate |
| 20:48.56 | amoghbl1 | Wouldn't it be cool if each country could hold one event so that every student got to meet other devs around him? I know it would be too much to plan carols , but just saying! |
| 20:49.16 | carols | amoghbl1: sure, lots of things would be cool if i didn’t have to plan them |
| 20:49.17 | TYPO3|ChristianM | amoghbl1: but then we couldn't meet the people from other countries :( |
| 20:49.24 | TYPO3|ChristianM | carols: :D |
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| 20:50.10 | PulkoMandy | amoghbl1: some local google offices have set up things like that in the past |
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| 20:50.27 | PulkoMandy | but the community can do it as well |
| 20:50.34 | amoghbl1 | carols: xD |
| 20:50.37 | PulkoMandy | or you can use existing events for that, too |
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| 20:51.30 | TYPO3|ChristianM | anyway wanted to go offline hours ago ;) finally good night from europe to everyone |
| 20:51.31 | manikanta | Haha...sorry for raising the topic....but it seems interesting to read the thread though I did'nt get the perfect answer ;)... lets see what they'll plan....I'm waiting for it :D :D !! |
| 20:52.06 | TYPO3|ChristianM | I am sure carols and the GSOC team will do an awesome job as always ;) |
| 20:52.09 | TYPO3|ChristianM | so bb |
| 20:52.34 | manikanta | Good night from India to everyone ;) :D ! |
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| 21:21.00 | neverpanic | !logs | rahulrrixe |
| 21:21.00 | gsocbot | rahulrrixe: "logs" is http://ibot.rikers.org/%23gsoc/ |
| 21:22.09 | rahulrrixe | neverpanic : thanks :) |
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| 22:38.12 | Ch3ck | what is payoneer? |
| 22:39.47 | ananasova | Ch3ck: i think you can read more here - https://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/document/show/gsoc_program/google/gsoc2014/studentpaymentcards |
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| 22:44.28 | Ch3ck | thanks ananasova ;) |
| 22:45.05 | Ch3ck | ananasova: looks like link is invalid |
| 22:45.46 | ananasova | Ch3ck: works for me |
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| 22:49.05 | darkl0rd | has there ever been cases where previous gsocers are rejected from GSoC? |
| 22:50.33 | rajul | darkl0rd: lots of those..... |
| 22:51.17 | rajul | darkl0rd: doing gsoc successfully once does not guarantee your place perpetually for all the future GSoCs |
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| 22:53.15 | ananasova | darkl0rd: take a look at the statistics - https://code.google.com/p/google-summer-of-code/wiki/ProgramStatistics |
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| 22:53.40 | ananasova | esp at the overall success rate |
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| 22:55.23 | darkl0rd | had no idea ananasova |
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| 22:57.37 | coderush | darkl0rd, why not ? |
| 22:57.54 | coderush | i am quite sure ..there have been |
| 22:58.15 | umccullough | i assume we're talking about students and not orgs |
| 22:58.36 | umccullough | it wasn't clearly stated |
| 22:59.54 | umccullough | i could see situations where the same student submits a proposal to an org they've worked with in a previous GSoC, and that org might drop their priority to give a fresh student a chance instead |
| 22:59.55 | darkl0rd | students |
| 22:59.57 | darkl0rd | actually |
| 23:00.17 | umccullough | but that's entirely up to the org |
| 23:01.06 | umccullough | it also might depend on whether that student disappeared after GSoC in a previous year and only came back again when there was money involved |
| 23:01.30 | umccullough | it's a little bit depressing when you never hear from gsoc students after they complete a project |
| 23:01.52 | umccullough | but there could be many factors that contribute to such a situation |
| 23:02.24 | umccullough | anyhow, those are just opinions, i don't think there's any sort of official rule |
| 23:03.45 | coderush | yes.. not place for greediness |
| 23:03.50 | coderush | *no place |
| 23:04.13 | umccullough | our org tries to encourage students to stick around and become project members when they're done |
| 23:04.28 | umccullough | a good strategy for returning students might be to pick a new org each year though :) |
| 23:04.37 | umccullough | so they can get new experiences |
| 23:05.08 | coderush | i have seen such cases .. infact 3 times for a student |
| 23:05.34 | coderush | better option is stick with org and become mentor next year |
| 23:05.44 | umccullough | yes, those are the encouraging outcomes |
| 23:05.47 | coderush | *alternate option |
| 23:05.49 | umccullough | when a student becomesa mentor |
| 23:06.05 | umccullough | we very much like that |
| 23:06.15 | coderush | that's how the cycle complete |
| 23:06.46 | Ch3ck | well i guess becoming a mentor means you'll have to understand the project the student is working on perfectly right? |
| 23:06.57 | umccullough | not necessarily |
| 23:07.01 | umccullough | but it helps a lot |
| 23:07.26 | umccullough | i am a co-mentor for example, without really understanding technical stuff, i am there to help the students find resources and get in touch with people who can help them |
| 23:07.39 | umccullough | and i know a lot of generic information about the org and its codebase |
| 23:08.33 | umccullough | the idea is really that the student knows their project and how to implement it - the mentor is there to guide them |
| 23:08.50 | umccullough | at least, that's how i see it |
| 23:09.09 | umccullough | if the mentor needs to jump in and write some code to help out, that's always useful |
| 23:09.44 | umccullough | i would encourage any student to discuss the project with their mentor before gsoc begins, so that they know for sure where they stand |
| 23:09.52 | umccullough | and what they can expect |
| 23:10.50 | coderush | umccullough, i totally agree . that's how actually gsoc has been planned .. |
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