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01:08.42wheeehey guys i was just curious -- once students are selected for various slots by an organisation does the gsoc team have a say in who's selected and who's not?
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01:11.23downeywheee: not really, as long as the students meet program criteria
01:11.51wheeedowney: I see
01:11.52wheeethanks
01:12.49olly_if there's a duplicate and the orgs can't agree, OSPO will make a decision to resolve it
01:13.14olly_but it's generally quite an arbitrary one, as it needs to be made quickly
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01:19.56wheeeolly_: I see
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01:21.39olly_wheee: though actually that's not a say in who's selected, just in where they are selected
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01:22.03wheeeolly_: right, of course
01:22.10wheeethanks olly_
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07:25.31kblingah
07:25.50kblinI really dislike the melange page layout sometimes
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07:30.02stqismkblin: It isn't /that/ bad
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07:30.26stqismOur DNS management page changes terms on us
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07:34.02kblinstqism: well, having about 50% background on a page, but then being forced to horizontally scroll in the table taking up the other 50% is really, really annoying
07:34.21kblinstqism: not to mention that I filed a bug about this years ago
07:34.32kblinIvanovic: ping
07:35.13stqismkblin: Heh, don't think my ssl bug has any hope either, those #melange devs are weird
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07:36.55kblinstqism: true. from a privacy perspective, you shouldn't really be able to access proposals via a non-encrypted connection
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07:39.16kblinif I made this kind of data available at work, I'd have a not-very-fun conversation with our privacy officer
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07:42.15stqismYou have a privacy officer? Curious if that's more IT or legal
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08:45.14gsocbotVarunAgw: "next" is Students for Google Summer of Code 2014 will be announced on 21 April, 2014 at 19:00 UTC
08:45.22VarunAgw:(
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09:39.00rushboyHello
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09:39.43rushboyI am able to edit the proposal right now. I've already talked to my mentor about this. Does that mean he has allowed me to edit the proposal ?
09:40.31rushboybecause I guess one cant edit the proposal after the proposal submission deadline without the consent of the mentor and the organisation
09:40.45rushboyI want to ask is it normal ?
09:41.21gevaertsIf you can edit it, someone in the organisation has allowed you to edit it. I have no idea if that someone is your mentor, the org admin, or another mentor
09:45.58rushboyokay gevaerts , Thanks :-)
09:46.10VarunAgw!numapps
09:46.10gsocbotVarunAgw: "numapps" is In 2014, 4420 students submitted 6313 proposals. 190 of 371 mentoring orgs were accepted. 2013: 177/417 orgs; 4144 students submitted 5999 proposals, of which 1192 were accepted. 2012: 180/406 orgs; 1212/6685 proposals (by 4258 students). 2011: 175/417 orgs; 1116/5474 proposals (by 3731 students). 2010: 151/367 orgs; 1026/5539 proposals (by 3464 students)
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10:34.15sinhayash!next
10:34.17gsocbotsinhayash: "next" is Students for Google Summer of Code 2014 will be announced on 21 April, 2014 at 19:00 UTC
10:35.26gopesh!next
10:35.27gsocbotgopesh: "next" is Students for Google Summer of Code 2014 will be announced on 21 April, 2014 at 19:00 UTC
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10:46.14VarunAgw!coffee
10:46.15gsocbotVarunAgw: "coffee" is over there, go take a cup.
10:46.16VarunAgw!tea
10:46.16gsocbotVarunAgw: "tea" is Have some tea and try to relax!
10:46.23gopesh!coffee
10:46.23gsocbotgopesh: "coffee" is over there, go take a cup.
10:46.31gopesh!tea
10:46.31gsocbotgopesh: "tea" is Have some tea and try to relax!
10:46.36gopesh!gsoc
10:46.36gsocbotgopesh: "gsoc" is Something that allows you to program for the summer in an open source project and win some cash and reputation, not Generic Savoir-faire on Open source Conundrums
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10:47.15VarunAgw!gci
10:47.15gsocbotVarunAgw: "gci" is gci is Google Code-in: A contest for 13-18 year olds. See http://code.google.com/gci
10:47.58olly_!botabuse
10:47.58gsocbotolly_: "botabuse" is (#1) If you want to play with the bot, please do so in a private /query so as not to spam the channel, or (#2) When in a query with me, use whatis #gsoc <factoid>
10:48.09VarunAgwpoor bot both link and age criteria is incorrect
10:48.33olly_VarunAgw: then fix it...
10:48.59VarunAgwolly_, How can I? I don't know how to fix it
10:49.21olly_first !forget gci then !learn gci as ...
10:49.40VarunAgw!forget gci
10:49.40gsocbotVarunAgw: The operation succeeded.
10:49.51VarunAgwcool
10:50.39VarunAgw!learn gci gci is Google Code-in: A contest for 13-17 year olds. See http://www.google-melange.com/gci/homepage/google/gci2013
10:50.39gsocbotVarunAgw: (learn [<channel>] <key> as <value>) -- Associates <key> with <value>. <channel> is only necessary if the message isn't sent on the channel itself. The word 'as' is necessary to separate the key from the value. It can be changed to another word via the learnSeparator registry value.
10:51.08VarunAgw!learn gci as gci is Google Code-in: A contest for 13-17 year olds. See http://www.google-melange.com/gci/homepage/google/gci2013
10:51.09gsocbotVarunAgw: "gci" is gci is Google Code-in: A contest for 13-17 year olds. See http://www.google-melange.com/gci/homepage/google/gci2013
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10:51.56VarunAgw!learn gci as Google Code-in: A contest for 13-17 year olds. See http://www.google-melange.com/gci/homepage/google/gci2013
10:51.56gsocbotVarunAgw: "gci" is (#1) gci is Google Code-in: A contest for 13-17 year olds. See http://www.google-melange.com/gci/homepage/google/gci2013, or (#2) Google Code-in: A contest for 13-17 year olds. See http://www.google-melange.com/gci/homepage/google/gci2013
10:51.58VarunAgw!forget gci
10:51.58gsocbotVarunAgw: Error: 2 factoids have that key.  Please specify which one to remove, or use * to designate all of them.
10:54.22VarunAgwdone
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10:59.13olly_VarunAgw: not done well though
10:59.43olly_are they both the same?
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11:00.07VarunAgw!gci
11:00.07gsocbotVarunAgw: "gci" is Google Code-in: A contest for 13-17 year olds. See http://www.google-melange.com/gci/homepage/google/gci2013
11:00.29olly_ah, fixed in query?
11:00.39VarunAgwyes
11:00.49olly_i think the 13-18 before meant [13, 18)
11:00.59VarunAgwlol,
11:01.43olly_i don't think the age range has changed anyway
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11:29.04gsocbotpl8787: Error: You don't have the owner capability. If you think that you should have this capability, be sure that you are identified before trying again. The 'whoami' command can tell you if you're identified.
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11:30.58gsocbotpl8787: "logs" is http://ibot.rikers.org/%23gsoc/
11:31.13one_more_minute1!whoami
11:31.13gsocbotone_more_minute1: I don't recognize you.
11:31.19pl8787Thanks a lot
11:31.30one_more_minute1np
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11:55.01fewchahi sss, what's up!
11:55.17sssfewcha: fine
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11:55.29fewchasss: cool, me too
11:55.48sssfewcha: do you know how gsoc pays stipend to the student
11:55.55NiharikaHello everyone.
11:56.08sssNiharika: hello
11:56.20fewchaNiharika: hey, what's up!
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12:03.37fewchasss: yes, each student receives a payment card I suppose
12:04.26sssfewcha: at their postal address, I guess. Then where can we use this card?
12:04.35sssi mean in what manner
12:04.55Niharikasss: Hello.
12:05.11Niharikafewcha: Hey. Nothing, just came back after a long college day. What´s up with you?
12:05.45fewchasss: I think that the selected students will be getting a package, which will contain this payment card, which maybe you can use in a similar way as you use your atm card
12:06.11fewchaNiharika: cool, me just sitting and idling. How was college?
12:07.52Niharikafewcha: Boring. Too many damn stairs. :P
12:08.04fewchaNiharika: lol..okay
12:08.29Niharikafewcha: Do we get a separate payment card for each of the three installments?
12:09.12fewchaNiharika: I don't think so, because personally, I don't believe that would be a rational way of thinking
12:09.13sssNiharika: I found something, have a look at it https://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/document/show/gsoc_program/google/gsoc2014/studentpaymentcards#registration
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12:09.40fewchasss: oh, cool
12:10.17Niharikasss: Thanks.
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12:11.14sssya, I guess that comprises of each and every detail one needs to know
12:11.16fewchaNiharika: Okay, so "All payments will go to the same card"
12:13.01NiharikaYep, got it.
12:16.16esornephello
12:16.25sssya, we need to register latest by 28th, don't know starting from when
12:16.47esornepso apart from duplication the applicants have been chosen by the orgs
12:17.41sssesornep: hey, ya de-duplication process is going on now
12:18.40esornepsss: any idea y the 2 day delay from 19th ?? :P
12:19.06viodbecause people are in week-end? :p
12:19.59sssya, may be...
12:24.58titzi~.
12:24.58infobotmethinks ~. is not the escape sequence you're looking for.
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12:32.52Niharika!afterdup | esornep
12:32.52gsocbotesornep: "afterdup" is Have patience! De-Dup meeting may have concluded, but the extra days serve as a buffer to finish shuffling slots around, make sure everything is finalised, and to have a bit of a weekend.
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12:36.23s1991Niharika: chill its just 3 days more
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12:37.54Niharikas1991: Yeah. But that is 3*24*60 minutes.
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12:38.29s1991haha, but we have to
12:38.44gopeshpayoneer doesn't have india as country listed while sign up
12:38.45s1991by the way for which org did you apply
12:39.03s1991gopesh: what??
12:39.38s1991can we signup now, for payoneer
12:39.38gopeshwe are asked to sign up in payoneer
12:39.46gopeshto recieve funds
12:39.57s1991ya, latest by 28th apr
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12:40.42gopeshyeah i tried to sign up but india is not listed you can try https://payouts.payoneer.com/partners/lp.aspx?token=82d35659bdf044b883d2e39276b810f12D37A54C91
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12:44.11gopeshany fix around this
12:44.22fewchagopesh: you are right. It's Iceland, then Indonesia :O
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12:45.02gopeshwhat to do then
12:45.21s1991gopesh: I googled and found payoneer cards are banned by RBI
12:45.47fewchaso what is the solution to this?
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12:46.27s1991fewcha: direct payment to local bank a/c
12:47.05gopeshhow shall we do this without having a payoneer account
12:48.36s1991gopesh: this link https://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/document/show/gsoc_program/google/gsoc2014/studentpaymentcards shows the alternate way
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12:48.53fewchas1991: "You must register with Payoneer and sign up for either a card or bank transfer by Monday, 28 April or you will not receive your payments on time"
12:49.15s1991ya, i read that
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12:50.28fewchaokay so "direct payments to your local bank account" is the 2nd option
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12:54.25s1991fewcha: so, we need to find out what is the procedure to register for payments in local bank a/c
12:55.29fewchas1991: yaa :(
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12:57.23s1991fewcha: I'm afraid even for that option, we may be required to singup for payoneer
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12:58.02fewchas1991: yes, I see
12:58.16fewchacurses himself for being too optimistic
12:59.16s1991fewcha: then I guess we need to confirm it from someone who knows exactly what needs to be done
12:59.37fewchayes
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13:00.05Niharikas1991: Do you know that you´ve been selected already?
13:00.22fewcha!that | Niharika
13:00.22gsocbotNiharika: "that" is a good question
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13:00.49s1991Niharika: I guess, yes :P
13:01.00gopeshcongoo s1991
13:01.08NiharikaInteresting. Which org, s1991?
13:01.24s1991osuosl
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13:02.18s1991Niharika: actually due to de-duplication process I got an email for my preference, so may be that's it
13:02.48NiharikaI see. Congrats, s1991. :)
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13:04.17s1991Niharika: thanks
13:04.58gnarulacongrats s1991
13:05.16fewchas1991: congrats, man! :)
13:05.46s1991thanks buddy, and best of luck to all
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14:18.22rushboyHello, I edited my proposal as per my organization wanted. Up till how long would I be able to edit my proposal ? Any sort of help appreciated :-)
14:19.34terrirushboy: In previous years, melange stopped allowing editing after Google announced the projects, or possibly after de-duplication
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14:21.55VarunAgwCan I see how number of how much proposals each organisation receive each year?
14:22.43terriVarunAgw: Depends on the org.  they’re allowed ot keep that private if they’d like.
14:22.44gevaertsYou can ask them, I guess
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14:23.23VarunAgwI want to know stats of every organisation, 190 of them
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14:23.30one_more_minute1!numapps
14:23.31gsocbotone_more_minute1: "numapps" is In 2014, 4420 students submitted 6313 proposals. 190 of 371 mentoring orgs were accepted. 2013: 177/417 orgs; 4144 students submitted 5999 proposals, of which 1192 were accepted. 2012: 180/406 orgs; 1212/6685 proposals (by 4258 students). 2011: 175/417 orgs; 1116/5474 proposals (by 3731 students). 2010: 151/367 orgs; 1026/5539 proposals (by 3464 students)
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14:25.27VarunAgwActually, I wanted to know how much competetive is GSoC based on programming language. i.e. No of application received/ No of chosen project for each programming language.
14:26.17gevaertsTechnically that information doesn't exist at all
14:26.27gevaertsThere is no such thing as a "chosen project"
14:26.37VarunAgwaccepted projects
14:26.51gevaertsThere are proposals, but those are all independent, although they might (and often are) based on a published idea
14:27.32gevaertsThe concept of multiple proposals from different students being about the same thing is purely a convention
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14:28.19gevaertsSo you're asking for information that (a) even the gsoc admins can't get at in a reasonable way, and (b) even if they could, they almost certainly wouldn't give you anyway
14:28.52VarunAgwyeah!, that's a difficult task
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14:29.35VarunAgwbut an interesting project for #melange for GSoC 2015  (lol just joking)
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14:32.28terriVarunAgw: I’m pretty sure they’ve already got a wishlist a mile long. :)
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14:38.11rushboyterri, thanks but if I not de-duplicated, shall I be able to edit my proposal until the accepted students are announced ?
14:39.40terrirushboy: that’s a question to ask the folk in #melange if you want the absolutely correct answer.
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14:40.45VarunAgwrushboy, Why do you want to edit the proposal when student acceptance period is about to over?
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14:43.04rushboyVarunAgw, I had to update some links to the work I have already in the project and also provide the info to the prototype I built in the past few days.
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14:46.23rajulrushboy: i think you may edit if the mentor opens your proposal for editing from you....but even if he doesn't i wiil suggest...put them in a comment under your proposal.....the mentors shall get a mail saying that you ahve added a comment and they will look there!!
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15:21.24kblinhey carol, you were looking for me?
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15:22.28JordiGHAre we ready for dedup?
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15:26.17kblinJordiGH: tomorrow, right?
15:26.33JordiGHWasn't it the 17th?
15:26.36JordiGHchecks.
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15:27.06JordiGHOh, it is tomorrow.
15:27.10JordiGHBut damn, tomorrow is a holiday.
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15:27.17JordiGHThe missus ain't gonna like this.
15:27.41JordiGHWe don't have any duplicates. What's the worst that can happen if nobody from my org shows up?
15:28.43braverockJordi: Carol only gives you one slot, iirc
15:28.46terriJordiGH: All your students wind up duplicated due to a tragic collision, and you have no students by the time it’s all over becuase you default lose all dupe battles by not showing up. ;)
15:28.46kblinduplicates show up during resolving other duplicates, and then you lose that student
15:29.25JordiGH:-(
15:29.26kblinbraverock: no, that was orgs who hadn't requested slots by the "requext your slots" deadline, iirc
15:29.28JordiGHOkay, I'll try to be here.
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15:29.52braverockkblin: thanks.
15:30.04braverockI just figure I'll be at the mtg.
15:30.06terriAdmittedly, it’s pretty unlikely that you’d have everyone duplicated.  I think we had maybe a handful dupes at the time of the meeting last year?  But you did ask what’s the *worst* that could happen.
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15:33.21kblinterri: :)
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15:44.09carolsserves some tea and coffee
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16:19.02siddharthpayoneer card not allowed in india?
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16:35.25carolssiddharth: have you been accepted into the program?
16:35.52downeyneeds some extra strong tea
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16:37.03carolsdowney: i’m on my second cup myself.
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16:38.28downeycarols: That latest melange bug is stressing us out in the 11th hour. :-)
16:38.39carolsdowney: what’s the bug?
16:38.41siddharthcarols: I was just inquiring...
16:38.51downeycarols: where we can't see who we accepted.
16:38.53carolssiddharth: not something you need to concern yourself with :-)
16:39.04carolsdowney: ah, and did the melange guys say they’d fix that?
16:39.11downeycarols: no word yet. ;-)
16:39.45downeyis getting real good at opening a tab for each proposal and using keyboard shortcuts :)
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16:55.42varunHi all, 15th was the first round of deduplication checks. So all those students who got selected in more than one org have been informed ?
16:56.00varunfor selecting the org of their choice
16:56.07PlkMndythey don't have to, the orgs may make a decision without asking the student
16:56.14VarunAgwHi varun
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16:56.30VarunAgwWe got same name :)
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16:57.14varunPlkMndy: but in the timeline it's written 18th as "student acceptance deadline"
16:57.19varunso what does that mean ?
16:57.41PlkMndyfinal choice is made. but students won't know about it until the 21
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16:58.03VarunAgwThere is always a little risk that you will be rejected
16:58.20umcculloughand google can still make the final choice
16:58.32varunPlkMndy: Can we tell the org about our preference ?
16:58.43umcculloughyou can, but it might not matter
16:58.50PlkMndyyes
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16:59.18VarunAgwSometime they asks you, sometime they decide themselves
16:59.27varunSo, by now the orgs have already removed duplicates ?
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16:59.37umcculloughnot necessarily
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17:00.51varunActually i applied in 2 orgs and i am getting positive signals from both of them, but i really want to go in org1. Should i tell org1 ?
17:01.53VarunAgwYou can write a comment on the proposal that you prefer their organisation or directly E-Mail the organisation admin/mentor
17:02.21braverockyou could say to the mentor and org admin 'if I end up in a duplicate situation between you and org2, I'd really prefer to work on your project'
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17:02.45braverock'if you accept me and I end up in...'
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17:02.58braverockbecause accptances aren't final yet either
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17:03.26varunOk, thanks all of you. I'll do it
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17:24.57unluckyBoyHi, Can anybody help me (actually advice me) a little via direct message? I don't want to post it here.
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17:27.06carolsunluckyBoy: most folks here aren’t going to want to PM with you unless they know what the topic is.
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17:27.34unluckyBoyit is gsoc related just some person advice
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17:28.11carolsunluckyBoy: person could mean a lot of different things. it could be students, mentors, org admins, or program admins.
17:28.47JordiGHunluckyBoy: After asking you privately, it seems to me that you're better off asking publicly and getting advice from everyone. It doesn't sound like a sensitive issue to me.
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17:32.10JordiGHunluckyBoy: All that I can know about you is that you're in India. Since most GSoC applicants are from India, that's very anonymous. Just ask your question here and omit details like your name, the org name, and anyone else's name. Your question may be of interest to others.
17:32.35JordiGHWell, you're *probably* in India, that's all I can guess from your IP address. You could be proxying.
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18:38.20ash123!next
18:38.21gsocbotash123: "next" is Students for Google Summer of Code 2014 will be announced on 21 April, 2014 at 19:00 UTC
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19:00.45Ivanovichi kblin
19:00.53Ivanovickblin: ehm, pong
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19:01.15anon756by when should i expect my welcome package / initial stipend....? need to buy a personal computer to work on..
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19:02.06fewchaanon756: after May 19th I suppose
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19:02.59teepee!faq | anon756
19:03.00gsocbotanon756: "faq" is http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/document/show/gsoc_program/google/gsoc2014/help_page
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19:04.07gsocbotanon756: "next" is Students for Google Summer of Code 2014 will be announced on 21 April, 2014 at 19:00 UTC
19:04.10teepeeso if that payment is required to start working, that's a bit of a problem
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19:04.18anon756yes :(
19:04.39teepeemaybe somewhere in the university / college?
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19:05.07anon756that's a lab pc .. its a public one
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19:05.16anon756will have to work on that i suppose..
19:05.35anon756btw, what all does one get in the initial welcome package , any idea ?
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19:07.13teepeeno idea about a welcome package, faq talks about initial stipend
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19:08.19anon756any previous year's student could tell, perhaps
19:08.52teepeewell, that's easy to google then :P (e.g. http://abhinav-upadhyay.blogspot.de/2011/05/gsoc-welcome-package.html)
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19:09.19teepeebut i don't know if that's the same every year
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19:11.11terriif I recall correctly, it’s not exactly the same, but similar
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19:13.38terrisome countries won’t allow google to send out promo items, too, so those countries won’t get notebooks and stuff: http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/document/show/gsoc_program/google/gsoc2014/help_page#4._Who_is_not_eligible_to_participate_as
19:14.20meflinhmm I wonder if notebooks will be at MS .. I'm running low :D
19:14.20VarunAgwAnybody have a clue what's on right of this image http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-mRbNb1_2DSU/Td-Raw0gnPI/AAAAAAAAB-Y/fJVy9cPylss/s1600/27-05-11_1718.jpg
19:14.41VarunAgwpen, notebook and ?
19:14.49meflinsticker? magnet?
19:15.05teepeeprobably the backside of the credit card?
19:15.10VarunAgwoops it is sticker
19:15.16VarunAgwhttp://abhinav-upadhyay.blogspot.de/2011/05/gsoc-welcome-package.html
19:15.20teepeeright, it says above the picture :)
19:15.21VarunAgwThe GSoC Notebook, Pen and the Sticker
19:16.34VarunAgwAnybody know were they were in 2013 and most important are they this year?
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19:26.28s1991Is here anybody from last year's gsoc and have knowledge of registration procedure for payment?
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19:31.31edsipers1991, org or student ?
19:31.50s1991edsiper: student
19:33.50edsipers1991, first step is to get accepted, once accepted you will get specific steps about how to deal with that
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19:34.48notSoLucky_Hi, I applied on two projects. Out of them, in one of them, I got friendly with a mentor after application period. And he helped me a lot contributing to the organisation. He also gave me some hints that he has chosen me for GSoC. But, I told him several times during that period that I feel very hard to contribute to his project as it was quite large and complex project and I felt like lacking experience required for it. But, 1-2 d
19:34.54notSoLucky_What do you guys think. Have I done something wrong? Should I apologies again to him? It is really bugging me a lot and I am unable to focus on other things.
19:35.00s1991edsiper: I want to know does that involve submission of some sort of documents which may take time to prepare
19:35.57edsipernotSoLucky_, its almost weekend, relax and wait until the results are released on Monday, before that is useless to waste energy thinking on that
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19:36.41edsipers1991, you cannot trust in "last year" info as nobody knows if something changed this year, its better to wait until Monday
19:37.02s1991edsiper: ok, thanks
19:38.18notSoLucky_sorry reposting as some text got not posted
19:38.29notSoLucky_Hi, I applied on two projects. Out of them, in one of them, I got friendly with a mentor after application period. And he helped me a lot contributing to the organisation. He also gave me some hints that he has chosen me for GSoC. But, I told him several times during that period that I feel very hard to contribute to his project as it was quite large and complex project and I felt like lacking experience required for it.
19:38.40notSoLucky_<PROTECTED>
19:38.46notSoLucky_I also feel like I have done wrong with him like I have wasted his time, and betrayed him. He probably have selected sometime else if he had known that I am going to leave him?
19:38.51notSoLucky_What do you guys think. Have I done something wrong? Should I apologies again to him? It is really bugging me a lot and I am unable to focus on other things.
19:39.15meflinduplication happens all the time .. dont worry about it
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19:40.18gevaertsnotSoLucky_: I once lost a student to a *web application*. It happens, he'll get over it, and there are other proposals he can select
19:40.56psychonsomeone here is a big fan of web apps
19:40.56gevaertsapologises to all web application people present :)
19:41.47edsipergood thing this year we did not have duplicates
19:42.12psychonI "almost" lost my only student to KDE...
19:42.29gevaertspsychon: the other project (mine!) was a low-level embedded firmware thing. I still don't understand why he wanted web stuff instead :)
19:42.34edsiperpsychon, but you already have the slot... did the student chose the other org ?
19:42.37lossyrobnotSoLucky_, things like that happen all the time. I think expressing yourself to him like you did here would be all you can do; then it's on him to be professional and not hold a grudge.
19:42.58edsipergevaerts, psychon web dev and firmware stuff ?? wow
19:43.00psychonedsiper: sorry, what?
19:43.16psychongevaerts: can I start participating in gsoc and do your low-level embedded firmware thing?
19:43.23edsiperpsychon, i mean, the student went away but the org have a slot to choose another student
19:43.38gevaertspsychon: as soon as we participate again, sure!
19:43.46edsipergevaerts, whats your project ?
19:44.07psychonedsiper: ah, ok... nah, the student chose us, not the other org
19:44.13gevaertsedsiper: rockbox. The particular thing was USB drivers
19:44.23notSoLucky_lossyrob: He acted professionally. He wished me good luck for GSoC after I told him that I am going with other project. But, I still feels like I did a selfish act
19:44.42gevaertsnotSoLucky_: picking the other one would have been equally selfish
19:44.57psychonyou aren't supposed to make everyone happy and bring world peace, gsoc is about you working on something that interests you a lot
19:45.14terriI think most open source folk are used to rejection. ;)
19:45.16gevaertsThink of it this way: if they don't want you to make a decision, they should not give you the choice :)
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19:45.30notSoLucky_gevaerts: Not that selfish as the other mentor has not spend his lot of time helping me
19:46.18PlkMndythey could have decided without asking you, they took the risk of asking, now they have to live with the result
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19:46.54umcculloughjust because you won't be a student doesn't mean you won't even contribute to that project, so helping you may eventually help them
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19:47.21umcculloughit's not a game, it's just FOSS
19:47.27PlkMndyif you are still a student next year, maybe there will be another gsoc?
19:47.37terrinotSoLucky_: If you haven’t already done so, do send the mentor a really nice thank you note saying how much you appreciate his help.   Many students just vanish into the ether and it’s always nice to know if you helped someone!
19:48.53notSoLucky_terri: Thanks, that will be a good idea. It will help me feel better (and possibly mentor too)
19:49.03lossyrobnotSoLucky_, terri has a good point. And then stop worrying and be psyched you have this awesome opportunity!
19:49.26lossyrobsoLucky_
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19:49.49notSoLucky_Yesterday, my nick was soLucky :)
19:50.11lossyrobyou'll change it back soon :)
19:50.18umcculloughi suggest you find a nick you like and register it if you want to have regular IRC conversations
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19:50.55notSoLucky_I actually have a real account. I don't like talking these things with real account
19:51.17umccullough<shrug> i guess that's up to you
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19:52.28feelingBetterThanks everyone. Now, I am feeling better and I will definitely send him a thanks note after 21st.
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20:18.46gsocbotashepele1: "next" is Students for Google Summer of Code 2014 will be announced on 21 April, 2014 at 19:00 UTC
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22:29.10nurupocan one student have two official mentors? as in ofiicialy recognized by google, with all the perks like mentor certificate (if there is one), etc.
22:29.50meflinthis year .. yes
22:30.45meflinsee the add new on the mentor section in melange
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22:34.05olly_nurupo: there's no mentor certificate, but anyone signed up as a mentor in melange gets a tshirt
22:34.17olly_you don't have to be assigned to a student for that
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22:57.47andreimacHi! Usually people who are selected are already informed by mentor/organisation?
22:58.04meflinnope
22:58.25meflinyou will be informed on the 21'st like everyone else
22:58.28meflin!timeline
22:58.29gsocbotmeflin: "timeline" is http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/events/google/gsoc2014
22:58.35meflinerr
22:58.37meflin!next
22:58.38gsocbotmeflin: "next" is Students for Google Summer of Code 2014 will be announced on 21 April, 2014 at 19:00 UTC
23:05.20andreimacThanks, I knew that already :) . I wanted to know more the insight of what's happening in 10 hours. Organizations will internally choose proposals so they could inform students privately ? I guess they have already sorted out the proposals
23:06.09meflinstudents will be informed but automated email via the timeline
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