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| 13:12.40 | Johnaudi | Hey guys - me again - Ive got a question about GCI |
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| 13:13.39 | Johnaudi | So I've told a 15 years old friend of mine about it and he's willing to join the GCI - but he's going to get one of his close parents to do the coding stuff, is that legal? |
| 13:13.56 | Johnaudi | From my POV I find that illegal |
| 13:15.37 | Johnaudi | Please respond ASAP — battery about to die. |
| 13:16.37 | gevaerts | I don't have a reference, but that sounds totally against the rules |
| 13:17.42 | gevaerts | Getting help is fine, outsourcing the work is not |
| 13:17.43 | Johnaudi | Wouldn't it be a better idea to have a live chat with the user (with webcam) after completing certain amount of tasks? |
| 13:18.35 | gevaerts | There probably all sorts of interesting issues with requiring live chats with minors |
| 13:18.39 | gevaerts | *are |
| 13:18.46 | gevaerts | In other words, no :) |
| 13:19.16 | gevaerts | Also, there's no requirement to have a common spoken language |
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| 13:19.52 | gevaerts | I mean, people may be able to read and write English reasonably well if they have some time without necessarily being able to understand a word |
| 13:20.00 | gevaerts | *a spoken word |
| 13:20.08 | gevaerts | *a singlke spoken word |
| 13:20.11 | gevaerts | gets coffee |
| 13:20.18 | Johnaudi | hahaha |
| 13:20.36 | Johnaudi | Hey aren't you the one who helped me 2-3 days ago? |
| 13:21.08 | gevaerts | I don't know. Did I have coffee then? :) |
| 13:21.23 | Johnaudi | I think it was you who told me about GCI in the first place, thank you |
| 13:21.33 | gevaerts | Ah, yes |
| 13:21.53 | Johnaudi | Do you live, work at google or something? |
| 13:22.00 | gevaerts | No |
| 13:22.01 | Johnaudi | like* |
| 13:22.18 | Johnaudi | Is this IRC thing paid? |
| 13:22.24 | gevaerts | I wish :) |
| 13:22.41 | Johnaudi | So you're doing this at your own will...? |
| 13:23.04 | gevaerts | Actually, right now I'm supposed to be working, but it's annoying stuff... |
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| 13:23.53 | gevaerts | was a mentor in gsoc for rockbox a few times, which is why he's in this channel |
| 13:24.02 | Johnaudi | Haha okay, I've been getting a little confused though, how will google know who are the 20 hard working students that deserve to go to Google Headquarters? |
| 13:24.17 | gevaerts | The organisations will pick those, I believe |
| 13:24.22 | Johnaudi | Yeah I've been told that |
| 13:24.39 | Johnaudi | About you mentoring |
| 13:24.39 | gevaerts | Google basically doesn't get involved in any technical evaluations |
| 13:25.24 | Johnaudi | So only Google Melange is responsible for this project that has basically nothing to do with 'Google' in general? |
| 13:25.36 | Johnaudi | Excuse my english |
| 13:26.48 | gevaerts | Google has a thing called the Google Open Source Programs Office (OSPO), which basically deals with Google's relations with open source communities |
| 13:26.57 | gevaerts | And they run gsoc and gci |
| 13:27.28 | Johnaudi | That company is pretty amazing |
| 13:27.31 | gevaerts | Melange is the software used to run gsoc and gci |
| 13:27.36 | Johnaudi | Google on general :p |
| 13:28.25 | Johnaudi | Okay it seems that you do not have to know how to code to be able to join GCI, so what is GCI about? Real basics? |
| 13:28.49 | gevaerts | Depends. There are different categories of tasks |
| 13:29.03 | gevaerts | Some of them require more pre-existing skills than others |
| 13:30.04 | Johnaudi | What will happen of there are no more tasks? We're 1.3k teens after all |
| 13:31.05 | gevaerts | I don't know. In the past, I believe in some years organisations have been able to add tasks at any time, while in other years they could add tasks at the midpoint |
| 13:31.32 | gevaerts | I've never been closely involkved with GCI though, so I don't know the details, and I definitely don't know how it's handled this year |
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| 13:32.06 | Johnaudi | Okay cool, and are we able to work on several tasks at the same time in different organizations? |
| 13:33.09 | gevaerts | I don't think so. Not sure though |
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| 13:33.51 | Johnaudi | Thanks for the help! Greatly appreciated – I'll try my best on GCI. |
| 13:34.05 | Johnaudi | See you guys later! |
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| 17:33.06 | jigsaww | I needed help regarding something |
| 17:33.13 | jigsaww | is anyone available? |
| 17:33.22 | jigsaww | :/ |
| 17:33.30 | jigsaww | ANYBODY? |
| 17:33.48 | MatthewWilkes | jigsaww: Don't ask to ask, just ask. If someone can help they'll reply. |
| 17:34.02 | jigsaww | Thank you |
| 17:34.17 | jigsaww | I am 18 years old and I had no idea about gsoc last year |
| 17:34.38 | jigsaww | so are there any other projects by other companies for students like me? |
| 17:34.51 | jigsaww | I am new to programming |
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| 17:35.05 | jigsaww | I justed started a month ago |
| 17:35.14 | MatthewWilkes | I don't know of any similar projects, no |
| 17:35.28 | jigsaww | oh that's sad |
| 17:35.43 | MatthewWilkes | and while there are projects for people with different skill levels, I'd be surprised to hear of any that are suitable for someone with a few months of experience. |
| 17:35.53 | MatthewWilkes | Maybe in a year or so? |
| 17:36.06 | jigsaww | yeah |
| 17:36.06 | jigsaww | I will keep learning |
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| 17:36.16 | jigsaww | which languages should I learn? |
| 17:36.36 | jigsaww | can you give me a sequence that will be better? |
| 17:36.45 | jigsaww | I am with C now |
| 17:36.52 | jigsaww | I know a bit of JavaScript and PHP |
| 17:37.06 | jigsaww | I will soon start with C++ |
| 17:38.52 | Reflector__ | jigsaww: I'm new to the gsoc scene as well. We'll have to wait for the 2014 list to know about the projects. |
| 17:39.40 | jigsaww | I am 18 so I can't participate |
| 17:39.41 | jigsaww | :/ |
| 17:39.49 | Reflector__ | A simple search through previous year gsoc projects will show that in webdev, we have PHP, Javascript and Ruby/Ruby on Rails which are popular. For desktop dev I saw Java and Python, but no C#. |
| 17:39.52 | jigsaww | and I am new |
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| 17:40.17 | jigsaww | Do you know of similar contests? |
| 17:40.28 | jigsaww | something that is close to GSOC |
| 17:40.35 | Reflector__ | Hmm not really. |
| 17:40.40 | Reflector__ | GSoC is one of a kind. |
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| 17:40.42 | gevaerts | jigsaww: huh? Why can't you participate? |
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| 17:42.05 | jigsaww | age requirements |
| 17:42.11 | jigsaww | 13-17 yo only |
| 17:42.14 | gevaerts | No |
| 17:42.22 | gevaerts | You're confusing gci and gsoc |
| 17:42.35 | Reflector__ | That brings to my mind a question I had...I'll be graduating next year but I'll still be completing semester exams till June. Will I be eligible? |
| 17:42.37 | jigsaww | is there something called gci as well? |
| 17:42.51 | gevaerts | yes |
| 17:43.05 | gevaerts | http://www.google-melange.com/gci/homepage/google/gci2013 vs http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/homepage/google/gsoc2014 |
| 17:43.09 | Reflector__ | Completing semester exams means I'll still be a part of my college. |
| 17:44.07 | gevaerts | Reflector__: http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/document/show/gsoc_program/google/gsoc2014/help_page#8._I_graduate_in_the_middle_of_the should answer that one |
| 17:44.12 | jigsaww | so gci is open for all ages? |
| 17:44.41 | jigsaww | dude gci is also 13-17 |
| 17:44.42 | jigsaww | :/ |
| 17:44.44 | gevaerts | jigsaww: http://www.google-melange.com/ has a one sentence summary for both gci and gsoc. Start there |
| 17:44.47 | gevaerts | *also*? |
| 17:44.50 | gevaerts | What else is? |
| 17:45.05 | MatthewWilkes | jigsaww: gci is 13-17, gsoc is 18+ |
| 17:45.20 | MatthewWilkes | gsoc is much harder tasks that last for 3 months, gci is simpler tasks that last for a few hours/days |
| 17:45.35 | jigsaww | oh wow |
| 17:45.46 | jigsaww | So I am can try gsco |
| 17:45.49 | jigsaww | gsoc* |
| 17:45.55 | jigsaww | Just need some real hardwork |
| 17:45.56 | jigsaww | :D |
| 17:45.59 | MatthewWilkes | absolutely |
| 17:46.04 | jigsaww | THANK you guys you are awesome |
| 17:47.04 | gevaerts | Reflector__: if you read that carefully, you'll note the "21 April, 2014" bit. That's the *only* date that counts. If you're a student then, you're fine |
| 17:47.29 | Reflector__ | Thanks for the heads up, gevaerts! |
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| 18:01.46 | Reflector__ | One more question. I'm based outside of the US. What is this Foreign Certification form that I have to submit? |
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| 18:05.43 | blast007 | Reflector__: it's a tax form, I believe. |
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| 18:07.01 | Reflector__ | blast007: I'll google to see if I can find some examples. |
| 18:07.52 | Reflector__ | https://code.google.com/p/google-summer-of-code/downloads/detail?name=ForeignCertificationForm2014.pdf&can=2&q=label%3Aforeign+certification+form I found this. |
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