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| 09:03.09 | aero | This is the first time i'm using an IRC channel.This is a test message. |
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| 09:16.20 | kai | now, did that work or didn't it? |
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| 09:18.18 | thebolt | :) |
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| 10:16.42 | kai | thebolt: heyas, how's life in your part of the planet? |
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| 11:12.36 | NewUserIIIT | Anyone have any idea about when we might be getting our T-Shirts and Certificates? |
| 11:16.16 | Achillion | "Soon" |
| 11:16.24 | Achillion | Actually I have no idea. |
| 11:18.14 | NewUserIIIT | aww |
| 11:18.40 | NewUserIIIT | Oh btw, Carol sent out a mail saying something about a reunion, any one know anything other than what the mail says? |
| 11:19.20 | gevaerts | NewUserIIIT: all we know is that she said here to wait for further details :) |
| 11:19.50 | kai | I think maybe carol knows more than what the mail says |
| 11:20.00 | kai | my best guess, at least |
| 11:20.04 | NewUserIIIT | carols loves to keep people on the edge of their seat :p |
| 11:21.05 | gevaerts | Well, it's a ten year celebration thing, which means it's for *next* year, which means likely not all details are final yet |
| 11:21.46 | NewUserIIIT | gevaerts, understandable, but i'm still excited |
| 11:22.04 | gevaerts | Oh, I don't blame you. Lots of people are :) |
| 11:24.09 | NewUserIIIT | Are we calling this year's GSoC SoC-X? :D |
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| 11:38.50 | enrico__ | hi everyone, can i ask a question about eligibility in gsoc 2014? |
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| 11:41.22 | enrico__ | I read that I have to be enrolled in an university course as of April 21st 2014. I'll graduate in March 2014 but from March to June I'll be enrolled in a single course at my university. Am I eligible for gsoc? |
| 11:41.53 | kai | does the university consider you enrolled? |
| 11:42.48 | enrico__ | I think so, I have to pay |
| 11:42.57 | kai | then you should be eligible |
| 11:43.40 | enrico__ | I'll not be enrolled in a degree (since I'll graduate for my master in March) but I'm enrolled in the course |
| 11:43.50 | enrico__ | I'll ask them if I'm considered a student |
| 11:44.45 | kai | basically for the purpose of gsoc, if your university can provide you with a document stating that you're enrolled as of the key date, you're a student |
| 11:44.53 | enrico__ | I just need something signed by the university that states that I'm currently studying there, right? a kind of proof of enrollment |
| 11:45.05 | kai | yeah |
| 11:45.11 | enrico__ | ok perfect, thank you very much |
| 11:45.36 | saurav | Okay. This might have been asked again and again but I am yet to understand it completely. I recently Java and want to participate in gsoc'14. What should I do given I have a reasonable amount of time before the applications start? |
| 11:45.51 | kai | also note that if you get done my june, trying to do gsoc next to a job doesn't work too well, based on past experience |
| 11:45.59 | kai | so make sure to plan for that |
| 11:47.12 | kai | saurav: pick an organisation you're interested in, and get into contact with them as early as possible |
| 11:47.53 | saurav | Oh. Okay. Will follow up on that. |
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| 11:59.27 | enrico__ | kay: no problem, I'll have to wait till october to start a PhD so I'll have nothing to do from June to October :) |
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| 13:39.05 | vpowerrc | hi |
| 13:40.07 | vpowerrc | is there anyone |
| 13:40.29 | Achillion | starts singing Pink Floyd's "Is there anybody out there" |
| 13:41.27 | vpowerrc | :( |
| 13:41.42 | Achillion | Was it something I said? \ |
| 13:42.08 | vpowerrc | haha :P |
| 13:42.19 | paultag | um |
| 13:42.24 | paultag | comfortably numb? |
| 13:42.30 | paultag | Achillion: off with your hea |
| 13:42.30 | paultag | d |
| 13:42.42 | gevaerts | vpowerrc: in general, on irc, just ask questions, don't first look for someone to answer them |
| 13:43.12 | vpowerrc | ohh. i'm new |
| 13:43.23 | vpowerrc | im new to gsoc too |
| 13:43.43 | vpowerrc | but i like to know to know that how to get accepted a project |
| 13:43.53 | Achillion | paultag: well, the little sort of song that precedes it |
| 13:45.06 | paultag | Bring the Boys Back Home ? |
| 13:45.10 | Achillion | (in the film, not the original album) |
| 13:45.26 | paultag | mm |
| 13:45.27 | Achillion | On the album it's 3-4 songs before comf numb |
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| 13:45.40 | voomer | !logs |
| 13:45.40 | gsocbot | voomer: "logs" is http://ibot.rikers.org/%23gsoc/ |
| 13:45.45 | paultag | time to listen to that album again |
| 13:46.14 | paultag | swag |
| 13:46.38 | Achillion | I rewatched the film recently and I have the series of songs from film in my head instead of the album :) |
| 13:46.42 | gevaerts | vpowerrc: I'd start by reading the faq and the student guide |
| 13:46.46 | gevaerts | !faq | vpowerrc |
| 13:46.46 | gsocbot | vpowerrc: "faq" is http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/document/show/gsoc_program/google/gsoc2013/help_page |
| 13:46.53 | gevaerts | !studentguide | vpowerrc |
| 13:46.53 | gsocbot | vpowerrc: "studentguide" is http://en.flossmanuals.net/GSoCStudentGuide/ |
| 13:47.08 | gevaerts | Yay, got both keywords right :) |
| 13:47.15 | gevaerts | !cookie |
| 13:47.15 | gsocbot | gevaerts: "cookie" is omnomnom |
| 13:47.24 | gevaerts | !thi cookie |
| 13:47.26 | gevaerts | !this cookie |
| 13:47.27 | gsocbot | gevaerts: "this cookie" is for you |
| 13:47.50 | Achillion | vpowerrc: as gevaerts said, start by reading everything on google-melange.com that relates to gsoc |
| 13:48.14 | vpowerrc | I already read it. thing is some people told me it's hard to get a proposal accepted. do you have any advices ? |
| 13:48.16 | Achillion | vpowerrc: then check this year's organisations and some of the projects that were proposed and accepted to get a feel for what kind of work goes on |
| 13:48.57 | vpowerrc | I have a good knowledge in javascript and php . is that enough ? |
| 13:49.18 | vpowerrc | I do freelancing |
| 13:50.21 | gevaerts | Well, javascript and php will be fine for projects that require javascript and php (and there are plenty of those I'd say), but you'll be stuck if you apply for something else :) |
| 13:50.21 | Achillion | What's "enough" in terms of knowledge depends on the organisation you'll be applying to. |
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| 13:50.46 | derdon | vpowerrc: If you know JS and PHP, I assume you also know HTML, CSS and are up-to-date with the latest trends. are you also familiar with frameworks such as jQuery for JS or at least one PHP framework? |
| 13:51.42 | gevaerts | vpowerrc: if you're not already, try to learn some basics about version control |
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| 13:51.46 | vpowerrc | @derdon yes I'm familiar with them also. specialy jqeury and ajax |
| 13:51.54 | vpowerrc | i know git too |
| 13:51.58 | gevaerts | Great |
| 13:52.41 | gevaerts | Also, make sure you don't underestimate the non-technical stuff. Communication is often key |
| 13:52.46 | derdon | and I can only agree with the others: look at the accepted projects which required knowledge in this area. I think moinmoin (a wiki engine) proposed a project where web design skills were required (no Python skills though). maybe you can find it |
| 13:53.11 | Achillion | vpowerrc: As you might have seen from the guides and FAQs, you don't really "apply to work on GSoC", but basically you apply to the participating organisation specifically. GSoC just organises the programme. So it's the organisation you need to impress and convince them that your proposal deserves to be accepted. |
| 13:53.35 | derdon | I think the proposals from the previous GSoCs are public for everyone. maybe it helps you if you take a look at them |
| 13:53.53 | derdon | s/proposals/applications from the students |
| 13:54.57 | gevaerts | derdon: they're not |
| 13:55.05 | gevaerts | Some of them are readable if you know the URL |
| 13:55.09 | vpowerrc | Achillion: when do we get to communicate with them ? Is there anything else I can do before they published the accepted organizations list |
| 13:55.32 | derdon | gevaerts: ah, ok |
| 13:56.39 | Achillion | vpowerrc: well, like we already said. You can check this year's organisations (and previous) and there's a good chance (though no one can guarantee this) that most of the orgs that participate every year will be participating again. So you could start contributing to an org you're interested in. |
| 13:57.16 | derdon | vpowerrc: you can communicate with everyone all the time :P you don't know which org will participate, so get in contact with the one you would like to work with. it's totally ok to read code from other projects, submit a patch and then look for other projects |
| 13:57.44 | vpowerrc | Achillion: I don't know if this a stupid question, but how do I basically start to contributing a organization ? |
| 13:58.05 | vpowerrc | *to a |
| 13:59.19 | gevaerts | Basically pick an open source organisation (or "project", which means something else inside and outside gsoc to help matters...), look at their website to figure out where and how to get their code, get the code, play around with it, join mailing lists, see if you can do things |
| 14:00.00 | Achillion | vpowerrc: well there's several ways. You can start browsing the bug/issue list and help out on some problems, reply to support questions if you're familiar with the software, submit patches, generally do what open source contributors do. Most open source organisations/software don't require any kind of "membership" from contributors. If you submit a patch and it works and it gets accepted, you're basically a contributor. :) |
| 14:00.01 | derdon | many projects also have their own irc channel |
| 14:00.09 | gevaerts | Personally I'd recommend starting out with something you actually use, and fixing bugs that actually annoy you. Of course, you may be unlucky and only use perfect software... |
| 14:00.28 | Achillion | What gevaerts said :) |
| 14:00.41 | derdon | gevaerts: that's an interesting definition of being unlucky :D |
| 14:01.02 | gevaerts | As a side note, while of course previous experience with the organisation you're applying to is ideal, if you work with an organisation today that ends up not applying/being selected to take part, you'll still have open source experience to point to, and that's still a definite advantage |
| 14:01.26 | Achillion | It's extremely easier and more beneficial to you (and to the project) if you actually use the software you're contributing to. |
| 14:01.59 | vpowerrc | yes |
| 14:02.10 | vpowerrc | thanks for the advices guys |
| 14:03.25 | Achillion | No worries. Now all we need is to add this entire conversation to a pastebin and point to it for the other times when people ask similar questions and no one's around to answer :) |
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| 14:04.18 | vpowerrc | good idea :) |
| 14:04.59 | gevaerts | Well, this is something that everyone will have their own ideas about, so we'll argue endlessly about what exactly that text should say :) |
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| 14:05.55 | Achillion | But since it's a conversation, there's the implication that it expresses only the opinions of the participants and is not official information. |
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| 14:14.23 | voomer | Google is inviting even students to MountainView? :O |
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| 14:48.13 | Guest76081 | hi, can anyone help me to get to know abt GSoC coz it is completely new to me. I want to give a try to it |
| 14:49.29 | gevaerts | !learn faq asĀ http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/document/show/gsoc_program/google/gsoc2014/help_page |
| 14:49.30 | gsocbot | gevaerts: (learn [<channel>] <key> as <value>) -- Associates <key> with <value>. <channel> is only necessary if the message isn't sent on the channel itself. The word 'as' is necessary to separate the key from the value. It can be changed to another word via the learnSeparator registry value. |
| 14:49.54 | kai | eyes gsocbot |
| 14:50.09 | kai | !faq |
| 14:50.11 | gsocbot | kai: "faq" is http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/document/show/gsoc_program/google/gsoc2013/help_page |
| 14:50.14 | gevaerts | Guest76081: if you haven't read them yet, have a look at the faq and the student guide |
| 14:50.21 | kai | !forget faq |
| 14:50.24 | gevaerts | !studentguide | Guest76081 |
| 14:50.24 | gsocbot | kai: The operation succeeded. |
| 14:50.25 | gsocbot | Guest76081: "studentguide" is http://en.flossmanuals.net/GSoCStudentGuide/ |
| 14:50.34 | kai | !learn faq as http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/document/show/gsoc_program/google/gsoc2014/help_page |
| 14:50.38 | gsocbot | kai: "faq" is http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/document/show/gsoc_program/google/gsoc2014/help_page |
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| 14:50.43 | gevaerts | !faq | Guest76081 |
| 14:50.44 | gsocbot | Guest76081: "faq" is http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/document/show/gsoc_program/google/gsoc2014/help_page |
| 14:50.56 | kai | wonder why this didn't work before |
| 14:51.07 | gevaerts | A permissions thing? |
| 14:51.17 | gevaerts | !learn somethingunimportant as test |
| 14:51.18 | gsocbot | gevaerts: "somethingunimportant" is test |
| 14:51.25 | gevaerts | !forget somethingunimportant |
| 14:51.26 | gsocbot | gevaerts: The operation succeeded. |
| 14:51.33 | kai | nope :/ |
| 14:52.34 | gevaerts | !learn faq as http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/document/show/gsoc_program/google/gsoc2014/help_page |
| 14:52.35 | gsocbot | gevaerts: "faq" is (#1) http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/document/show/gsoc_program/google/gsoc2014/help_page, or (#2) http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/document/show/gsoc_program/google/gsoc2014/help_page |
| 14:52.40 | gevaerts | !forget faq 2 |
| 14:52.41 | gsocbot | gevaerts: "faq" is http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/document/show/gsoc_program/google/gsoc2014/help_page |
| 14:52.58 | gevaerts | has no clue |
| 14:53.29 | ananasova | wonders if it's possible to join a gsoc visit in a nearby country... |
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| 14:56.07 | kai | gsocbot is a diva, I guess |
| 14:56.15 | gevaerts | ananasova: you mean the ones mentioned in the blog post? I'd assume most or all of them will be public, so just wait for the details, see if you have to register in advance, and turn up I'd say |
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| 14:59.00 | Guest76081 | gevaerts: sorry for a personal ping, can you help me? |
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| 14:59.21 | akif500 | !logs |
| 14:59.22 | gsocbot | akif500: "logs" is http://ibot.rikers.org/%23gsoc/ |
| 14:59.36 | gevaerts | Guest76081: well, if you've read both of those things, and you have specific questions just ask them here |
| 15:00.15 | Guest76081 | gevaerts: ok sure sir |
| 15:00.47 | ananasova | gevaerts: yep, that's what i meant. if the info will be public, then i'm lucky and i can travel to a european country to attend the event \o/ |
| 15:01.55 | kai | ananasova: I don't think anybody in here knows more than what's in the blog |
| 15:02.39 | gevaerts | ananasova: well, if you combine it with something else, I guess so. Travel can be expensive, and I'm not sure *just* the gsoc presentation and possibly talking to the google people will be worth the effort if you have to come a long way |
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| 15:03.52 | kai | ananasova: I'm sure that becoming a mentor for gsoc2014 and then going to the mentor summit is more rewarding ;) |
| 15:04.33 | ananasova | gevaerts: well, i am from moldova (small unknown eu country) next to romania. so should be easy :) even though i now stay in prague for erasmus |
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| 15:05.16 | gevaerts | ananasova: it will all depend on your situation I guess :) |
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| 15:07.01 | ananasova | gevaerts: yep, i will follow the gsoc latest updates :) |
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| 15:07.21 | gevaerts | once traveled all of 100m to a gsoc event :) |
| 15:07.29 | vpfrimmer | ananasova: moldova isn't unknown -> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ws4COisklac :) |
| 15:08.07 | ananasova | vpfrimmer: what a shame! what a shame for moldova! |
| 15:08.49 | vpfrimmer | i can't stop listening. |
| 15:08.57 | ananasova | vpfrimmer: :D |
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| 15:11.42 | ananasova | vpfrimmer: see ozone :D |
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| 15:13.55 | vpfrimmer | ananasova: you just reminded me that i've never checked what 'dragostea din tei' means. gonna take a look. |
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| 15:18.02 | rihnapstor | why gsoc 14 announced early ? |
| 15:18.29 | Achillion | Probably cause of the whole 10 year anniversary |
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| 16:48.07 | carols | serves some tea and coffee |
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| 16:57.17 | DingTo | carols: hey :) |
| 16:57.21 | carols | hi DingTo |
| 16:57.56 | kshitij8_ | !logs |
| 16:57.57 | gsocbot | kshitij8_: "logs" is http://ibot.rikers.org/%23gsoc/ |
| 16:58.41 | DingTo | I have a question about code submission: I will provide separate .diff files and they include the commit number and date, when I submitted them to our code repository. 2 of them are dated before the official gsoc started (just a few days), but they were part of my proposal. Is that fine or should I not include them? |
| 16:58.50 | DingTo | carols: ^^ |
| 16:58.51 | carols | DingTo: please contact the melange developers. |
| 16:59.06 | DingTo | ? |
| 16:59.44 | carols | the melange folks can help you. |
| 17:00.03 | programmerlicens | carols: "10 students/organizations will be chosen to highlight their work at the Google booths at open source events throughout the year." any further clarifications on this? |
| 17:00.16 | DingTo | well this is not a technical question carols, more a general info question |
| 17:00.18 | carols | programmerlicens: clarifications will be forthcoming. |
| 17:00.29 | carols | DingTo: sure, include them |
| 17:00.35 | DingTo | ok, thanks :) |
| 17:00.38 | programmerlicens | carols: alright thanks! |
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| 17:02.17 | Barata | hello guys, where can i see the companies of gsoc? |
| 17:02.35 | carols | Barata: you mean the organizations from this year that participated? |
| 17:02.51 | Barata | yes |
| 17:03.04 | carols | Barata: http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/accepted_orgs/google/gsoc2013 |
| 17:03.23 | Barata | thank you carols, sorry for my bad english |
| 17:03.38 | carols | no problem. |
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| 17:04.24 | derdon | Barata: note that they are not connected to Google in any way. the organisations don't consist of google employees but of people who work voluntarily for free software |
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| 17:05.01 | aerodynamix | open source dev team rocks!! |
| 17:05.53 | Barata | derdon: Okay |
| 17:08.01 | derdon | maybe you should inform yourself about free software and open source in general. I don't know how familiar you are with this "movement" |
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| 17:13.34 | aerodynamix | what is melange? |
| 17:13.47 | carols | aerodynamix: the web app that runs gsoc and gci |
| 17:15.15 | aerodynamix | @carols:thanks |
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| 17:15.28 | carols | yw |
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| 17:19.58 | dastergon | carols: hey, I'd like to ask you something about code samples. |
| 17:20.07 | dastergon | diffs are acceptable for samples? |
| 17:20.19 | carols | dastergon: sure |
| 17:20.22 | carols | that's fine. |
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| 17:21.44 | dastergon | carols: nice! thanks :) |
| 17:22.12 | carols | yw |
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| 17:27.31 | kblin | sttaylor: hey there. :) |
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| 17:27.40 | kblin | carols: and welcome back :) |
| 17:27.45 | carols | hi kblin :-) |
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| 17:29.44 | brlcad | carols: sttaylor: any indication possible whether gsoc14/gci14 will be about the same, fewer, more org participants? |
| 17:29.54 | sttaylor | kblin: hello |
| 17:29.59 | carols | brlcad: gsoc 2014 will be 10 more orgs than we've ever had before. |
| 17:30.07 | brlcad | awesome |
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| 17:30.15 | sttaylor | brlcad: And GCI 13 will be the same as last year- 10 orgs |
| 17:30.23 | kblin | you've got quite a fixation on the number 10 there.. ;) |
| 17:30.28 | sttaylor | : ) |
| 17:30.36 | brlcad | thanks both, that is pretty cool news |
| 17:30.52 | gevaerts | I think you should have gone for 10^100 :) |
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| 17:31.26 | aerodynamix | it's because it's been 10 years after the success of GSoC. :-) |
| 17:31.46 | kblin | aerodynamix: great, now I feel old :) |
| 17:31.58 | brlcad | GCI is pretty amazing, in part undoubtedly because the number of orgs is so few |
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| 17:32.08 | brlcad | students can actually get to know them all without feeling lost |
| 17:32.09 | kblin | arguably most of that is because I _am_ old |
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| 17:33.07 | brlcad | kblin: you're only as old as you act ;) |
| 17:33.31 | kblin | brlcad: note how I said old, not grown-up ;) |
| 17:34.19 | kblin | though I guess I'm that as well, and it's not entirely as bad as I thought |
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| 17:45.04 | aerodynamix | guys! i have been learning python since a few years (i'm 17 now)....i want to successfully participate in GSoC 14 or 15. What else should I do to build my foundation in this field? |
| 17:45.29 | carols | aerodynamix: reach out to an open source organization you'd like to work with and start contributing. |
| 17:46.27 | aerodynamix | @carols: thanks! what is a mailing list btw? |
| 17:46.52 | carols | aerodynamix: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mailing_list |
| 17:47.22 | aerodynamix | :p |
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| 17:51.27 | aerodynamix | @carols: i've read that GSoC is visiting 10 countries in for GSoC'14 ..Is India on the list?..If Yes, where are you guys going to visit more specifically? |
| 17:51.43 | carols | aerodynamix: we'll be announcing all of that soon. |
| 17:52.04 | aerodynamix | @carols:okay..thanks |
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| 18:31.53 | deepak | hi guys |
| 18:32.32 | deepak | can a guy currently in forth year go for GSOC 14? |
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| 18:33.59 | deepak | Cab a student currently in final year join GSOC 14 ? |
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| 18:35.12 | summatusmentis | in past years, you've had to be enrolled as of a certain date (sometime in April, iirc). |
| 18:35.28 | Achillion | Wasn't it may? |
| 18:36.18 | Achillion | deepak: http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/document/show/gsoc_program/google/gsoc2014/help_page#2._Whos_eligible_to_participate_as_a |
| 18:36.46 | gevaerts | "As long as you are accepted into or enrolled in a college or university program as of 21 April, 2014, you are eligible to participate in the program" |
| 18:37.59 | Achillion | deepak: i.e., if your academic year ends after 21 April, you're probably eligible |
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| 18:39.54 | deepak | Achillion: thanks, my academic year ends after 31st may, so i'm eligible :) |
| 18:40.34 | Naresh_ | Can a student on co-op also work with GSOC? |
| 18:40.41 | Naresh_ | Assuming they have the time for it? |
| 18:40.55 | carols | Naresh_: what do you mean co-op? you mean a group? |
| 18:41.16 | Naresh_ | Something like Drexel's co-op. Its sort of like a 6 month internship. |
| 18:41.22 | Naresh_ | At various companies. |
| 18:41.30 | Naresh_ | But you're still in college officially. |
| 18:41.31 | carols | Naresh_: no, that's no schooling, right? |
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| 18:41.46 | carols | we advise you not to have any other time commitments while you're doing gsoc as well. |
| 18:41.48 | carols | so probably not. |
| 18:41.53 | Naresh_ | Hmm, okay. |
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| 18:46.29 | carols | serve some coffee and tea |
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| 18:54.11 | sinhayash | Please guide on how to brush up python skills? |
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| 19:04.51 | deepak | should I need to have a good knowledge of linux before applying for GSOC14? |
| 19:05.18 | carols | deepak: that's a great question to ask the open source organization you're interested in working with |
| 19:06.40 | deepak | @carols: got the answer |
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| 21:47.42 | sinistersnare | i just wanted to comment that LibGDX java game framework should be admitted to GSoC 2014! i cant participate (wont be in uni till fall 2014) but im a project contributor, and i would love to get more attention! |
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| 22:14.14 | spectie | hmm, people are translating the flyers, sometimes without actually translating |
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| 22:17.54 | spectie | hey mwilkes|away ! |
| 22:22.37 | AAnon | Do you need to be enrolled as a student in the Spring semester to qualify for GSOC? |
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| 22:26.31 | spectie | AAnon, i believe you have to be a student on the day that the programme officially starts |
| 22:27.54 | Achillion | 21st april |
| 22:29.45 | olly_ | "enrolled or accepted", at least for recent GSoCs |
| 22:31.37 | spectie | yes |
| 22:32.08 | spectie | http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/document/show/gsoc_program/google/gsoc2012/faqs#student_eligibility |
| 22:32.55 | AAnon | thnx, i figured so, though i imagine enrollment would mean during normal school year (Jan - June), and not during summer, since the coding proj alone would take up a lot of time |
| 22:34.29 | spectie | yes |
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| 22:37.48 | derdon | AAnon: the meaning of a "normal school year" varies very much across over the countries of the world ;) |
| 22:38.38 | derdon | my semester started on 10 Oct and will go until 31 March |
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| 22:47.08 | AAnon | and you may be in the dead of winter doing 'summer of code'. Better to be indoors coding in winter than in summer, though! |
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| 22:48.06 | olly_ | the problem with that is the southern hemisphere universities tend to have the long break over the new year |
| 22:48.42 | olly_ | so you'd have classes over most of the GSoC coding period |
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