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11:58.25yogev_ezraDoes anybody know where can I find students that have applied for GSoC, but weren't selected?
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12:03.53jojvayogev_ezra, they are 5000+, there should be some around here
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12:05.14yogev_ezrajojva: I am asking because we wanted to do our own Summer of Code, and we can offer stipends (about half of what Google gives) to 2 students. So the natural auditory is those who applied to GSoC but weren't selected.
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12:09.48MatthewWilkesyogev_ezra: Best to approach a mentoring organisation to ask if they want to work with you
12:11.01yogev_ezraMatthewWilkes: But they already have students chosen, no? And those students work for them. I didn't understand your advice, sorry :-(
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12:15.09MatthewWilkesyogev_ezra: They almost certainly have students they had to reject
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12:16.10yogev_ezraMatthewWilkes: Oh. Makes sense now. So probably I should look for orgs. that have similar requirements with ours
12:16.33MatthewWilkesOh, so you're an org that wants to fund 2 students, but you weren't accepted into gsoc?
12:17.21yogev_ezraMatthewWilkes: yes. So we went the Kickstarter way. It wasn't a bad idea actually: http://kck.st/11La589
12:18.25MatthewWilkeswow, ASM
12:18.44yogev_ezraMatthewWilkes: yeah :-)
12:18.51yogev_ezraWe are special :-P
12:19.10olly_i doubt there is an easy way to contact such students en masse
12:19.22olly_it's unlikely many are hanging out here
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12:20.09yogev_ezraolly_: You're right. That's why I was asking for ideas. Actually MatthewWilkes gave a nice idea.
12:20.23yogev_ezraolly_: We can approach coreboot, they are half-ASM and were chosen
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12:21.24olly_i guess if you can fund 2, you don't need to find many
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12:26.12yogev_ezraolly_: Dunno, looks like a bad idea to select 2 if only 2 apply :-) BTW, in your org, how many have you selected from how many that applied, if it's not secret?
12:27.16AchillionIsn't that public information?
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12:28.31yogev_ezraAchillion: how many were selected is public
12:28.55yogev_ezraAchillion: how many applied in total for GSoC is also public. But how many of those total have applied to particular org is not public
12:29.27yogev_ezraso what interests me is a sample of 2-3 orgs - how many have applied to them VS how many were chosen
12:29.35yogev_ezraif they are willing to share, that is
12:29.41Achillionright, right
12:30.41yogev_ezraObviously choosing 2 from 2 is a very bad choice
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13:01.57olly_yogev_ezra: 15 out of 61 I think
13:02.37yogev_ezraolly_: Thanks, very useful. So choosing 2 from 8 or so (1 out of 4) would be a good idea.
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13:19.05jjs1yogev_ezra: according to a blog post by mentoring organisation they had "about 50" proposals and four slots. http://www.w3.org/QA/2013/05/gsoc_2013.html
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13:19.28yogev_ezrajjs1: We don't have time to evaluate 50 proposals :-( and I doubt we will get even 10... ASM is not mainstream these days, you know :-(
13:19.29olly_yogev_ezra: it depends how much junk you get really, though those don't take too long to review
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13:19.36olly_i didn't look at all 61, only the couple in my area
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13:19.43olly_so i don't know what the quality was like, but in previous years with other orgs I've looked at them all
13:19.50yogev_ezraolly_: our org is smaller, i will have to look at all of them. same would have been if we were chosen by Google. so we don't want to get too many proposals, but also not too little. a "golden number" would be anywhere in 8-10
13:19.58jjs1imagines turning in to a cave creature after spending a summer using ASM (jokes) :-)
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13:20.51yogev_ezrajjs1: :-) actually I wrote 0 ASM for the project. i just help with PR and org. administration. everyone helps in what he/she can. we have a person that does our website, for example. but of course the point of summer of code is to get more ASM developers
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13:20.51jjs1yogev_ezra: It's not for me but it's a good intention. :-)
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13:20.51yogev_ezrajjs1: I am with project for 3 years and I was amazed when I saw the speed and size. i am the kind of person who hates to wait for computer to do something, so it immediately caught my heart
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13:21.34jjs1understands yogev_ezra's point of view :-)
13:21.34yogev_ezrajjs1: while size today doesn't matter that much as it was in 2000 when the project started, the speed still matters. a lot of modern software is slow even on latest CPU
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