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| 00:19.15 | Uli- | hah. getting philosophical. ;) |
| 00:19.18 | Achillion | http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/f/f8/Internet_dog.jpg |
| 00:20.02 | Uli- | Achillion: are you a mentor or org admin? |
| 00:20.16 | Achillion | student |
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| 00:20.21 | Uli- | ah |
| 00:20.39 | Achillion | prospective |
| 00:20.43 | Achillion | potential |
| 00:20.48 | Uli- | so we can't discuss it at the mentor summit then ;) |
| 00:20.55 | Achillion | Afraid not :) |
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| 00:49.38 | ojwb | it can be |
| 00:50.00 | ojwb | for example, "what's an anagram of 'nice love'?" |
| 00:50.40 | sdumitriu | "Once evil" |
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| 02:08.57 | gsocbot | tachyons: "next" is May 24 at 07.00 UTC: All mentors must be signed up and all student proposals matched with a mentor |
| 02:09.30 | tachyons | !timeline |
| 02:09.30 | gsocbot | tachyons: "timeline" is http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/events/google/gsoc2013 |
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| 03:00.53 | sdumitriu | One hour left |
| 03:01.12 | kushalkhandelwal | Yes |
| 03:01.27 | kushalkhandelwal | This is proposal matching ? |
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| 03:02.27 | kushalkhandelwal | Oh |
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| 04:00.38 | sdumitriu | Hm, I think that's !past |
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| 04:04.33 | ojwb | sdumitriu: no, it's about 4:04 UTC |
| 04:04.47 | sdumitriu | Ah, right |
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| 04:28.06 | aciid | does the list of mentor student pairup comes out today? |
| 04:28.30 | hratsimi1ah | ddf |
| 04:28.37 | aciid | or the result will only be announced on 27th? |
| 04:28.46 | hratsimi1ah | on the 27th |
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| 04:30.25 | aciid | okay |
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| 06:25.20 | gsocbot | harshkot_: "next" is May 24 at 07.00 UTC: All mentors must be signed up and all student proposals matched with a mentor |
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| 06:28.39 | ojwb | !learn next as May 27 at 19:00 *UTC* - Accepted student proposals announced on the Google Summer of Code 2013 site |
| 06:28.40 | gsocbot | ojwb: "next" is (#1) May 24 at 07.00 UTC: All mentors must be signed up and all student proposals matched with a mentor, or (#2) May 27 at 19:00 *UTC* - Accepted student proposals announced on the Google Summer of Code 2013 site |
| 06:28.45 | ojwb | !forget next 1 |
| 06:28.45 | gsocbot | ojwb: "next" is May 27 at 19:00 *UTC* - Accepted student proposals announced on the Google Summer of Code 2013 site |
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| 06:48.07 | zifeitong | next! |
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| 06:56.15 | waiting_for_resu | Do mentors tell selected students before 27th that they are selected? |
| 06:56.21 | ojwb | no |
| 06:56.57 | waiting_for_resu | And the number of slots for orgs will also be declared on 27th only? |
| 06:57.52 | ojwb | you can ask an org how many slots they currently have if you want, but they don't have to tell you, and it might still change anyway |
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| 06:58.58 | Guest27338 | Proposal Matched Deadline: |
| 06:58.58 | Guest27338 | May 24 at 07:00 UTC |
| 06:58.59 | Guest27338 | 1 minute remaining |
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| 06:59.30 | waiting_for_resu | What happens in the proposal matched deadline? |
| 06:59.49 | valorie | deduplication, then announcement |
| 06:59.58 | valorie | !next |
| 06:59.59 | gsocbot | valorie: "next" is May 27 at 19:00 *UTC* - Accepted student proposals announced on the Google Summer of Code 2013 site |
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| 07:01.59 | gsocbot | waiting_for_resu: "next" is May 27 at 19:00 *UTC* - Accepted student proposals announced on the Google Summer of Code 2013 site |
| 07:02.30 | Guest27338 | valorie, how many slots did kde get this time? |
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| 07:02.57 | valorie | ~50 |
| 07:02.58 | ibot | [50] still quite common |
| 07:03.10 | valorie | we'll see for sure after dedup |
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| 07:03.31 | Guest27338 | still slots can be freed and given to other orgs? |
| 07:04.07 | waiting_for_resu | any idea about the number of slots NESCent has? |
| 07:04.14 | hari_om_ | how many slots did opensuse go this time?? |
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| 07:04.27 | valorie | no idea |
| 07:04.28 | Guest27338 | ask your orgs |
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| 07:11.34 | gsocbot | fewcha: "next" is May 27 at 19:00 *UTC* - Accepted student proposals announced on the Google Summer of Code 2013 site |
| 07:11.41 | Gil_Galad | !next |
| 07:11.42 | gsocbot | Gil_Galad: "next" is May 27 at 19:00 *UTC* - Accepted student proposals announced on the Google Summer of Code 2013 site |
| 07:11.52 | Gil_Galad | !log |
| 07:11.52 | gsocbot | Gil_Galad: Error: You don't have the owner capability. If you think that you should have this capability, be sure that you are identified before trying again. The 'whoami' command can tell you if you're identified. |
| 07:12.14 | Gil_Galad | !whoami |
| 07:12.14 | gsocbot | Gil_Galad: I don't recognize you. |
| 07:12.17 | fewcha | !log |
| 07:12.17 | gsocbot | fewcha: Error: You don't have the owner capability. If you think that you should have this capability, be sure that you are identified before trying again. The 'whoami' command can tell you if you're identified. |
| 07:13.32 | anibose | What does "Student acceptance choice deadline" mean? Do the students have to do anything now? Or do we simply wait till the list is published on May27? |
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| 07:13.50 | ojwb | anibose: nothing for you to do |
| 07:14.05 | ojwb | it's a deadline for the org (particularly the admins) |
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| 07:16.11 | anibose | ojwb: Thanks. :) |
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| 07:16.36 | fewcha | amesists: thanks |
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| 07:21.20 | gsocbot | Guest321: "next" is May 27 at 19:00 *UTC* - Accepted student proposals announced on the Google Summer of Code 2013 site |
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| 07:22.34 | kai | yay, still no duplications :D |
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| 07:30.08 | Guest321 | hi ! someone pls let me knw what is the deadline 12am - 1am supposed to mean today ? |
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| 07:31.15 | aghisla | Guest321: it is for admins and mentors, to solve last duplicates |
| 07:31.41 | aghisla | if you're a student, next event is Monday announcement |
| 07:32.03 | Guest321 | aghisla: so mentors might hve a fair idea of whom they would be mentoring ? |
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| 07:38.52 | aghisla | Guest321: yes, but as there can be last minute deduplication decisions, they can not be 100% sure until Monday |
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| 08:20.23 | wooo | Hey guys when will be the irc meeting to resolve any outstanding duplicate? |
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| 09:01.42 | bbc | just wondering, is it okay at this point, as a student, to ask mentors about project acceptance? |
| 09:01.56 | MatthewWilkes | bbc: No |
| 09:02.08 | MatthewWilkes | bbc: You can ask, but you'll put them in an uncomfortable situation, as they're not allowed to tell |
| 09:02.19 | bbc | okay, thanks, I don't want that obviously :) |
| 09:02.57 | MatthewWilkes | bbc: Trust me, they want to tell. Part of the deal is that google makes the announcement |
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| 09:03.46 | bbc | during selection I would understand but for this part I didn't know about how important it was for google to make the announcement |
| 09:04.03 | bbc | well, not very well phrased but I'm okay with that :) |
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| 09:07.08 | jjs1 | bbc: I believe the selections have yet to be finalised (as there is a meeting between orgs to discuss duplicate selections in about 10 hours). |
| 09:08.17 | bbc | you're right, even if I applied for one project there might be changes due to deduplication |
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| 09:08.51 | bbc | that cannot be foreseen nor disclosed |
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| 09:09.03 | bbc | haha, I feel like I'm talking like a mentor ^^ |
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| 09:52.08 | gary_b | THREE DAYS! |
| 09:52.40 | gary_b | breathing in........ breathing out........ |
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| 09:56.20 | elixir | 3 days, 10 hours, 52 minutes... :o |
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| 09:57.49 | Achillion | Relaaaaaaax ... |
| 09:57.52 | Achillion | Put on some music |
| 09:58.00 | Achillion | Make a 3.5 day playlist |
| 09:58.49 | prasoon2211_ | ^Good idea |
| 09:58.55 | gevaerts | Or just play one 3.5 day long piece |
| 09:58.57 | elixir | ;) |
| 09:59.10 | Achillion | Might I suggest downloading the entire OverClocked ReMix database? |
| 09:59.19 | prasoon2211_ | !patience | gary_b |
| 09:59.19 | gsocbot | gary_b: "patience" is very important for GSoC/GCI. Relax and go code something useful. |
| 09:59.33 | gevaerts | recommends "As slow as possible", by John Cage |
| 09:59.39 | Achillion | heh, I read "go code something aweful" |
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| 10:00.02 | Achillion | awful* |
| 10:00.09 | prasoon2211_ | Achillion: Better, listen to the whole Led Zeppelin discography |
| 10:00.09 | prasoon2211_ | :) |
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| 10:00.43 | Achillion | I've been stuck on OC ReMix for the past few months cause lyrics while working distract me |
| 10:01.41 | chetna_ | this wait is getting longer n longer ! :D .. no playlist nothing would work for now ! :P |
| 10:01.47 | prasoon2211_ | well when you've heard every single song many time, lyrics don't become part of the unconscious brain :D |
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| 10:02.35 | prasoon2211_ | chetna_: you're getting selected, it is obvious :) |
| 10:02.41 | Achillion | Or I just start singing in the lab unconsciously |
| 10:02.42 | Achillion | :) |
| 10:02.56 | prasoon2211_ | ^That happens a lot |
| 10:03.13 | prasoon2211_ | then someone taps me on the shoulder |
| 10:03.17 | Achillion | lol |
| 10:03.31 | chetna_ | what makes you think thatways prasoon2211_ |
| 10:03.49 | prasoon2211_ | I am applying for sympy too, so I kinda know |
| 10:04.20 | Achillion | sympy eh? |
| 10:04.25 | prasoon2211_ | yeah |
| 10:04.27 | Achillion | Neat |
| 10:04.33 | prasoon2211_ | first time applicant |
| 10:05.21 | Achillion | Second time for me, didn't get in last time |
| 10:05.39 | prasoon2211_ | in sympy? |
| 10:06.03 | Achillion | No |
| 10:06.10 | prasoon2211_ | <you were ambiguous> :P |
| 10:06.12 | Achillion | First time was PyNN 2 years ago |
| 10:06.21 | Achillion | I was and I apologise |
| 10:06.35 | Achillion | This year I'm applying to Brian (NN simulator) |
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| 10:06.48 | prasoon2211_ | no problems :) |
| 10:06.49 | Achillion | via INCF |
| 10:07.07 | prasoon2211_ | I'll be honest |
| 10:07.14 | prasoon2211_ | I had to google each one of those names |
| 10:07.18 | prasoon2211_ | :P |
| 10:07.26 | Achillion | I didn't expect you to know them anyway |
| 10:07.31 | prasoon2211_ | new to FOSS |
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| 10:08.14 | prasoon2211_ | so, you think you'll get selected this time? |
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| 10:08.26 | Achillion | Well I wouldn't expect you to know either unless you were into computational neuroscience |
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| 10:09.31 | Achillion | No clue. Hope so, obviously |
| 10:09.31 | prasoon2211_ | Hmm. Forgive my ignorance then :) |
| 10:09.39 | prasoon2211_ | yep, me too |
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| 10:09.44 | Achillion | :) |
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| 10:09.49 | prasoon2211_ | though I don't really know |
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| 10:10.15 | prasoon2211_ | Good luck then. |
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| 10:13.24 | Achillion | you too |
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| 10:33.13 | gsocbot | ManojKumar: "next" is May 27 at 19:00 *UTC* - Accepted student proposals announced on the Google Summer of Code 2013 site |
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| 10:46.48 | elixir | Hi, can i ask the mentor regarding competition for my particular project idea? |
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| 10:48.38 | weltallAnd | Would prolly be a bit late now regardless |
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| 10:50.00 | elixir | still, does it creates a bad impression? just to have an idea. |
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| 10:53.14 | Bedrich | Test |
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| 10:55.44 | ThomasWaldmann | elixir: all mentors know that students are excited and have a hard time waiting until the results come out, but they must not tell you whether you got accepted or not. |
| 10:56.07 | ThomasWaldmann | and asking indirect questions to get the same information is also not helpful. |
| 10:57.03 | ThomasWaldmann | so, maybe just do some productive work, makes waiting easier :D |
| 10:57.25 | Achillion | Relaaaaaax |
| 10:57.30 | Achillion | enjoy the weekend |
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| 11:04.31 | elixir | ThomasWaldmann: sounds good, thanks ;) |
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| 11:34.05 | gsocbot | gugu: "next" is May 27 at 19:00 *UTC* - Accepted student proposals announced on the Google Summer of Code 2013 site |
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| 11:51.22 | Raydiation | ok, so at 19:00 i have to show up if i mentor a project :)? |
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| 11:52.34 | weltallAnd | At least one from your org |
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| 11:53.03 | vernon | I thought it was the 24th when they revealed the accepted students. When was it shifted? |
| 11:53.05 | Raydiation | ok thanks |
| 11:53.23 | vernon | or maybe it always was the 27th heh |
| 11:53.39 | weltallAnd | For the hour check the site |
| 11:53.56 | GorillaWarfare | I think it's always been the 27th, yeah |
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| 12:23.01 | aghisla | oops wrong tab :) |
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| 12:35.30 | gsocbot | avikp: "numapps" is In 2013, 177 of 417 mentoring orgs were accepted. In 2012, 180 of 406 mentoring orgs were accepted; 4258 students submitted 6685 proposals, of which 1212 were accepted. In 2011, 175 of 417 orgs were accepted; 3731 students submitted 5474 proposals, and 1116 were accepted. In 2010, 151 of 367 orgs were accepted; 3464 students submitted 5539 proposals, and 1026 were accepted. |
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| 12:35.56 | gsocbot | pranjal710: "next" is May 27 at 19:00 *UTC* - Accepted student proposals announced on the Google Summer of Code 2013 site |
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| 12:41.00 | pranjal710 | !patience |
| 12:41.01 | gsocbot | pranjal710: "patience" is very important for GSoC/GCI. Relax and go code something useful. |
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| 13:13.03 | gsocbot | liangent: "next" is May 27 at 19:00 *UTC* - Accepted student proposals announced on the Google Summer of Code 2013 site |
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| 13:20.09 | aadi025 | hi all guys |
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| 13:21.39 | ManojKumar | hello |
| 13:22.11 | GorillaWarfare | Hi |
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| 13:23.11 | ManojKumar | GorillaWarfare : Student? |
| 13:23.18 | GorillaWarfare | Indeed |
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| 13:23.35 | ManojKumar | all the best :) , nervous last few days |
| 13:24.22 | GorillaWarfare | It is |
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| 13:26.19 | GorillaWarfare | ManojKumar: Which organization(s) did you submit proposals with, if you don't mind me asking? |
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| 13:26.59 | ManojKumar | no I don't mind. SymPy. What about you? |
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| 13:29.58 | Guest82180 | where can i find accepted students list |
| 13:30.21 | GorillaWarfare | Guest82180: That hasn't been released yet. It will be released on May 27 |
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| 13:31.17 | Guest82180 | gorilla: thanq |
| 13:32.02 | GorillaWarfare | ManojKumar: Wikimedia Foundation |
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| 13:32.49 | ManojKumar | GorillaWarfare: Okay! |
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| 13:37.44 | GorillaWarfare | ManojKumar: I definitely thought about applying with SymPy though. Python is my favorite language, and it's a really cool project. |
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| 13:39.15 | rahulrrixe | Hi |
| 13:39.28 | rahulrrixe | how students are mapped with project? |
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| 13:39.37 | ManojKumar | GorillaWarfare: True that, SymPy rocks. and python is the only language that I'm decent with |
| 13:39.46 | ManojKumar | in* |
| 13:39.58 | rahulrrixe | whom to contact for this? |
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| 13:40.11 | GorillaWarfare | Yeah. I use a lot of C and C++ at work, but I'd prefer Python any day |
| 13:40.21 | GorillaWarfare | rahulrrixe: Regarding what? |
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| 13:42.11 | rahulrrixe | regarding acceptance choce? |
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| 13:42.43 | GorillaWarfare | rahulrrixe: https://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/document/show/gsoc_program/google/gsoc2013/about_page maybe? Not really sure what you need. |
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| 13:44.57 | gsocbot | pppll: "next" is May 27 at 19:00 *UTC* - Accepted student proposals announced on the Google Summer of Code 2013 site |
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| 13:45.13 | rahulrrixe | what i am asking is that as calendar suggests every student will be mapped with a project and mentor, so where we can get those information? |
| 13:45.25 | GorillaWarfare | rahulrrixe: That information isn't released until May 27 |
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| 13:46.05 | desowin | rahulrrixe: it will be available in public for all accepted students |
| 13:46.18 | rahulrrixe | 0kk |
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| 13:46.28 | desowin | after you get the mail... which atleast a few years ago was quite late ;-) |
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| 14:03.28 | adam_vollrath | Is this where today's de-dupe meating happens? |
| 14:03.46 | ChadWindnagle | I believe so |
| 14:03.58 | ChadWindnagle | That's kind of why I'm hanging out here |
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| 14:05.48 | abhijangda_ | That will happen at 1900 UTC, and from last years log it may seem that it will last for 30 mins at maximum. |
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| 14:06.54 | chro | hi, organizations already chose the students they want to work with? |
| 14:07.00 | David_Honeynet | abhijangda_: it depends on how many duplicates students there are between orgs, and how many orgs can sort those out between themselves before 19:00 UTC |
| 14:07.16 | David_Honeynet | chro: the orgs are finalizing their student selections today |
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| 14:07.47 | David_Honeynet | (with Google announcing the results on Monday) |
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| 14:08.13 | chro | I see |
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| 14:09.40 | abhijangda_ | David_Honeynet: yeah, it depends but I am just telling a rough estimate based on previous log. :) |
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| 14:10.12 | ighf | !next |
| 14:10.13 | gsocbot | ighf: "next" is May 27 at 19:00 *UTC* - Accepted student proposals announced on the Google Summer of Code 2013 site |
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| 14:11.25 | chro | Orgs can inform students if they are accepted before the GSoC announcement? |
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| 14:11.59 | ChadWindnagle | You're really not supposed to |
| 14:12.13 | |Kev| | In fact, it's strictly forbidden. |
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| 14:12.19 | ChadWindnagle | because the deduplication meeting can change things |
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| 14:12.44 | ChadWindnagle | I had a student *beg* me this year to tell him because he had another internship. Couldn't do it |
| 14:12.55 | aagam94 | !log |
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| 14:13.12 | GorillaWarfare | !logs | aagam94 |
| 14:13.12 | gsocbot | aagam94: "logs" is http://ibot.rikers.org/%23gsoc/ |
| 14:14.25 | braverock | ChadWindnagle: we tell students we won't accept their proposals if they have significant other commitments, and we'll fail them if they failed to disclose things like another internship. we expect full work weeks from our students |
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| 14:14.54 | ChadWindnagle | Oh yes. He had a 'backup' planned that he needed to decide on |
| 14:14.54 | gevaerts | braverock: that's not really the issue here though |
| 14:15.00 | braverock | I feel like the shifting of the dates this year to a later date made it harder to attract certain students, who needed to lock down internships earlier |
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| 14:15.10 | fcarbogn | Test |
| 14:15.13 | |Kev| | ChadWindnagle: Sorry, I read "Not really supposed to", rather than "Really not supposed to". |
| 14:15.16 | gevaerts | braverock: sure, but it made it easier for others |
| 14:15.22 | _7a | Given 2 *accepted* students "A" and "B": If an org loses "A" due to de-duplication, can "B" be re-purposed do implement the proposal "A" submitted? |
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| 14:15.53 | |Kev| | _7a: Yes, as long as the student's happy with this. |
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| 14:15.55 | braverock | I don't mind the later 'start coding' date, but I would have liked to have the process over and students announced before the end of April, so that other internships weren't so likely to be considered |
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| 14:16.46 | abhijangda_ | braverock: yes, you are right. |
| 14:16.48 | |Kev| | I have a feeling that stretching the process out longer would make life even busier for poor Carol, but who knows. |
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| 14:17.18 | gevaerts | Again, that may be true for some parts of the world, but it's not true everywhere |
| 14:17.23 | braverock | gevaerts: what hardship would having the apply/acceptance dates earlier in the year have caused? separate from the 'start coding/pencils down' dates? |
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| 14:17.48 | gevaerts | braverock: the application period might suddently clash with someone else's exams |
| 14:18.01 | vibhavsinha | .next |
| 14:18.07 | gevaerts | *no* period is unambiguously best |
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| 14:18.11 | |Kev| | The application period requires students to be writing code and putting a lot of time into it, etc. |
| 14:18.20 | vibhavsinha | !next |
| 14:18.21 | braverock | doesn't that just argue for a longer open acceptance period? exams are rarely more than a week in any university I can think of |
| 14:18.21 | gsocbot | vibhavsinha: "next" is May 27 at 19:00 *UTC* - Accepted student proposals announced on the Google Summer of Code 2013 site |
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| 14:18.43 | _7a | |Kev|: Are you sure that complies with the GSoC rules? thx! |
| 14:18.51 | |Kev| | braverock: Which then increases the amount of work for everyone involved (other, possibly, than the students). |
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| 14:18.53 | abhijangda_ | gevaerts: yes, the dates clashed with my exams. my exams started at the Application submissions date and ended at the same date. |
| 14:18.56 | gevaerts | braverock: you don't need to prepare for exams? Well done! |
| 14:18.56 | braverock | and the best applications our org (R) receives have been started months before the Google melange site opens |
| 14:19.35 | braverock | left academia 20 years ago. but that's still immaterial to my other point about the best applications being started in December of January |
| 14:19.40 | braverock | s/of/or/ |
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| 14:20.20 | |Kev| | braverock: I don't think I've ever had a student approach me that early! |
| 14:20.51 | braverock | we had at least 6 or 7 this year. one started working on his application for this year after he was rejected last year |
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| 14:21.00 | |Kev| | _7a: Pretty confident, yes. Google doesn't really care /what/ the students do, as long as the orgs and students agree. But you can always ask Carol, that's the way to get a definitive answer. |
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| 14:22.56 | |Kev| | _7a: We've done similar things where we wanted to accept two students who applied for the same idea. |
| 14:23.30 | _7a | |Kev|: Thank you, I was really worried about this :) |
| 14:23.42 | ChadWindnagle | Yeah if that happens we accept them both and then try to get one to change their proposal |
| 14:23.45 | |Kev| | Although you have to be somewhat careful that you don't say "Hey, you applied for X. We want to accept you for Y". |
| 14:24.30 | _7a | |Kev|: Sure |
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| 14:25.58 | _7a | |Kev|: Would the student be required to change his proposal or can they use the lost's student proposal directly? (after removing personal info, etc) |
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| 14:26.10 | |Kev| | _7a: They don't need a proposal at all. |
| 14:26.28 | |Kev| | _7a: The proposal is used for assessing if you want the student, after that if you want to ignore it, you can. |
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| 14:26.44 | |Kev| | Although the description they submit to the public-facing bit should be right :) |
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| 14:27.40 | _7a | |Kev| understood, thx! |
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| 14:29.20 | aravind_ | hi. does anyone know when will the gsoc results for accepted proposals be announced. i am confused with the date on 24th (today) and 27th July. |
| 14:29.33 | ChadWindnagle | It's the 27th of may |
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| 14:29.58 | gsocbot | aravind_: "next" is May 27 at 19:00 *UTC* - Accepted student proposals announced on the Google Summer of Code 2013 site |
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| 14:40.29 | simpleirc | !afterdup |
| 14:40.31 | gsocbot | simpleirc: "afterdup" is Have patience! De-Dup meeting may have concluded, but the extra days serve as a buffer to finish shuffling slots around, make sure everything is finalised, and to have a bit of a weekend. |
| 14:40.47 | simpleirc | hmmm |
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| 14:55.42 | rehfi | I have a serious question... Do I need to submit any document other than proposal before 27th /.. I am a student |
| 14:56.23 | GorillaWarfare | rehfi: Nope, not unless someone has asked you to |
| 14:56.39 | GorillaWarfare | I think transcripts and all are sent after acceptance. |
| 14:56.58 | rehfi | thanks |
| 14:57.09 | JordiGH | I only have funny questions. |
| 14:57.13 | JordiGH | :-( |
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| 15:00.39 | ashutosh30492 | What all documents are required to be submitted after 27th? |
| 15:00.41 | Platonides | that's right, only after acceptance are the other documents required |
| 15:01.48 | Platonides | ashutosh30492, you will need a letter from your university (or equivalent) saying that you were enrolled at <the date listed in melange> |
| 15:01.49 | fcarbogn | is the deduplication meeting supposed to happen here now? |
| 15:01.56 | Platonides | also some teaxes papers |
| 15:02.05 | sdumitriu1 | fcarbogn: Not now, in 4 hours |
| 15:02.11 | Platonides | fcarbogn, in several hours |
| 15:02.13 | ashutosh30492 | @Platonides: Thanks! |
| 15:02.15 | ashutosh30492 | If the org meeting at 1900 UTC is happening on #gsoc, won't the students be able to see it? |
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| 15:02.55 | Platonides | I don't know how they will differenciate between org admins and students |
| 15:03.07 | Raydiation | europe/berlin is 20:00 right? |
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| 15:03.21 | downey | ashutosh30492: The students aren't named. |
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| 15:03.26 | ashutosh30492 | 27th seems so far away. :( |
| 15:03.31 | Platonides | maybe it doesn't matter if they see the talk |
| 15:03.40 | Platonides | Raydiation, berlin is at +2 |
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| 15:03.43 | GorillaWarfare | Platonides: I think they typically mute the chan |
| 15:03.47 | Platonides | so 19 UTC = 21 CEST |
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| 15:04.03 | Raydiation | Platonides: i thought summertime made it +1 |
| 15:04.04 | downey | Raydiation: http://www.worldtimebuddy.com/ |
| 15:04.16 | simpleirc | students can see, but cant talk |
| 15:04.19 | Platonides | Raydiation, it made it +1 vs winter time |
| 15:04.26 | |Kev| | Raydiation: It's an hour ahead of the UK, which is an hour ahead of UTC during the summer. |
| 15:04.28 | Raydiation | downey: ty, very useful |
| 15:04.31 | Platonides | but winter time in berlin is already UTC+1 |
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| 15:04.57 | ashutosh30492 | How do they revolve dupllicates without naming them? |
| 15:05.40 | simpleirc | why wouldnt they name them? |
| 15:06.00 | downey | simpleirc: Because students aren't announced until the 27th. |
| 15:06.10 | Platonides | I don't know, perhaps they say <"Org Foo" and "Org Bar" you have a duplicate, if you don't decide in 2 minutes we will remove the slots for both of you> ;) |
| 15:06.11 | downey | ashutosh30492: We can see the duplicate student names in Melange. |
| 15:06.17 | downey | What Platonides said. |
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| 15:07.15 | downey | If the orgs can't/don't agree, they usually randomly assign one of the 2 orgs to get the student. |
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| 15:08.18 | Nischayn22 | Does GSoC count as an employment? |
| 15:08.26 | GorillaWarfare | Nischayn22: Umm, to whom? |
| 15:08.35 | Nischayn22 | GorillaWarfare: Hi :) |
| 15:08.39 | kai | !faq | Nischayn22 |
| 15:08.39 | gsocbot | Nischayn22: "faq" is http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/document/show/gsoc_program/google/gsoc2013/help_page |
| 15:08.44 | GorillaWarfare | Hey Nischayn22 :) |
| 15:08.46 | downey | simpleirc ashutosh30492 - you can read last year's meeting at http://ibot.rikers.org/%23gsoc/20120420.html.gz |
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| 15:08.54 | Nischayn22 | I meant can I say I was employed while doing GSoC |
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| 15:09.05 | Nischayn22 | kai: Thanks, already reading that :) |
| 15:09.10 | Platonides | Nischayn22, kind of |
| 15:09.12 | kai | Nischayn22: it's in there |
| 15:09.36 | simpleirc | downey great thanks |
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| 15:11.02 | kunalbansal | is thelist final for gsoc?? |
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| 15:11.23 | downey | kunalbansal: no. |
| 15:11.53 | Nischayn22 | kai: couldn't find it there, some help will be appreciated |
| 15:12.05 | Nischayn22 | any particular section? |
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| 15:12.36 | Platonides | Nischayn22, I think last year faq contained somewhere like "you are considered a student developer for $ORGANIZATION employed by google" |
| 15:12.50 | random1 | hello, if I have been in contact with the org since mid-Feb, contributed around ten merged patches, and done a small portion of my project, would anyone bet on me being selected? |
| 15:12.52 | Platonides | OTOH it's not fair to say that you "worked for Google" |
| 15:13.09 | sdumitriu1 | random1: No |
| 15:13.11 | Nischayn22 | Platonides: I remember that it sounded like "work for hire" |
| 15:13.29 | Nischayn22 | I think it was under a different faq |
| 15:13.32 | Platonides | people usually mention that they participated in GSoC with perhaps a small description of the program |
| 15:13.39 | Platonides | yes, there were several faqs |
| 15:14.00 | downey | AFAIK, there is no "employment" at all. |
| 15:14.02 | sdumitriu1 | random1: But you do have very high chances |
| 15:14.11 | Nischayn22 | That is fine if you have an optionn :) I have to fill up how many times I have been employed |
| 15:14.37 | Nischayn22 | s/option |
| 15:14.42 | simpleirc | random1 I would |
| 15:14.43 | Platonides | random1, I would think that the organization would like to work with you in gsoc |
| 15:14.47 | kunalbansal | i think when you work for open source..you dont say you got employed fo it ..its just that you contributed for something better |
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| 15:15.03 | downey | Nischayn22, Platonides: See http://ibot.rikers.org/%23gsoc/20130523.html.gz at 18:03.56 |
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| 15:15.20 | GorillaWarfare | Nischayn22: I would just say that you participated in GSoC, and explain it if necessary. It's probably more like a paid internship than employment, though. |
| 15:15.41 | random1 | thanks everyone, its just these last few days are getting me worried, I screwed my college grades for this. |
| 15:15.42 | Nischayn22 | GorillaWarfare: 20:44 <Nischayn22> That is fine if you have an optionn :) I have to fill up how many times I have been employed |
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| 15:16.08 | Platonides | if it's for your goverment/taxes, it probably counts it as "yes, you were employed" |
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| 15:16.35 | GorillaWarfare | Nischayn22: Oh, do you mean you have to say "I was employed \d times"? |
| 15:16.52 | Nischayn22 | GorillaWarfare: Yes, and give the details for each :) |
| 15:17.04 | GorillaWarfare | Then I would count it, and explain in the details |
| 15:17.09 | downey | GSoC is not a job. |
| 15:17.11 | Platonides | then I would count it, and explain below |
| 15:17.23 | Platonides | let them decrease the counter if they don't consider it a job |
| 15:17.52 | GorillaWarfare | downey: It's not a long-term employment, but you're paid to do work for an organization... it's at least job-like :P |
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| 15:18.09 | Noxwizard | It's more like a grant. |
| 15:18.14 | Nischayn22 | Platonides: Sounds better |
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| 15:18.34 | kai | hey carols |
| 15:18.35 | GorillaWarfare | Ooh, here's carols. She could probably advise, Nischayn22 :) |
| 15:18.37 | downey | GorillaWarfare: It may be similar, but it's not employment, or even a contract "job", AFAIK. |
| 15:18.46 | Richard-Turner | !log |
| 15:18.47 | gsocbot | Richard-Turner: Error: You don't have the owner capability. If you think that you should have this capability, be sure that you are identified before trying again. The 'whoami' command can tell you if you're identified. |
| 15:18.52 | carols | sips some coffee |
| 15:18.53 | Nischayn22 | GorillaWarfare: Sure :) |
| 15:18.54 | GorillaWarfare | !logs | Richard-Turner |
| 15:18.54 | gsocbot | Richard-Turner: "logs" is http://ibot.rikers.org/%23gsoc/ |
| 15:18.55 | carols | yes, what's the question? |
| 15:18.56 | kai | !logs | Richard-Turner |
| 15:18.56 | gsocbot | Richard-Turner: "logs" is http://ibot.rikers.org/%23gsoc/ |
| 15:19.19 | Nischayn22 | carols: Hi, I have a situation where I have to list my past employments. Just wondering if GSoC counts? |
| 15:19.29 | kai | Nischayn22: it's not employment, I'm pretty certain that's in the FAQ verbatim |
| 15:19.41 | Richard-Turner | kai: GorillaWarfare: thanks |
| 15:19.46 | carols | Nischayn22: no, it's not employment. |
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| 15:20.03 | carols | you can put it on your resume in the "Activities" section. |
| 15:20.16 | Nischayn22 | carols: Okay, I get it. :) |
| 15:20.25 | downey | puts the tea on |
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| 15:21.00 | fabio_nigi | hi all |
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| 15:21.56 | kai | Nischayn22: arguably I can't find it either, so I probably misremember |
| 15:22.01 | fabio_nigi | there is someone with problem on Italian Mars society? i could help |
| 15:22.18 | Nischayn22 | kai: I think it was in another faq which was for accepted students |
| 15:22.34 | kai | Nischayn22: possibly |
| 15:23.40 | dadkins | carols: pm? |
| 15:23.44 | carols | dadkins: sure |
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| 15:35.12 | *** topic/#gsoc by carols -> This year's student deduplication meeting will be at 19:00 UTC on 24 May. This is for organization administrators and mentors only. If you are in this channel for the meeting, please note that the channel will be muted. Please PM carols or nathanielmanista for voice to resolve your duplicate when you organization is called. Google Summer of Code 2013 is on! |
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| 15:39.00 | sinhayash | !next |
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| 15:39.01 | gsocbot | sinhayash: "next" is May 27 at 19:00 *UTC* - Accepted student proposals announced on the Google Summer of Code 2013 site |
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| 15:40.41 | Ivanovic | carols: it would be cool to have more info for resolving the duplicates, e.g. it would be cool to have the irc nicks or something like this available, too |
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| 15:41.37 | sdumitriu1 | A while ago we had prefixed usernames, like org_user |
| 15:41.46 | sdumitriu1 | This way we can see who's from an organization |
| 15:42.07 | sdumitriu1 | Where <org> is the organization's short name used on Melange |
| 15:42.08 | Ivanovic | sdumitriu1: this is usually done for the meeting itself |
| 15:42.19 | Ivanovic | i would like to have this done before the meeting if possible |
| 15:42.20 | Ivanovic | ;) |
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| 15:42.31 | sdumitriu1 | There's still time |
| 15:42.40 | *** topic/#gsoc by carols -> This year's student deduplication meeting will be at 19:00 UTC on 24 May. This is for organization administrators and mentors only. If you are in this channel for the meeting, please note that the channel will be muted, and you should change your username to the format org_user. Please PM carols or nathanielmanista for voice to resolve your duplicate when you organization is called. Goog |
| 15:42.41 | carols | how's that? |
| 15:42.44 | carols | everyone happy again? |
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| 15:42.52 | paultag | :) |
| 15:42.57 | paultag | always, carols! :) |
| 15:43.06 | sdumitriu1 | carols: Perfect |
| 15:43.28 | sdumitriu1 | Ivanovic: If you still have duplicate, you didn't do the pre-de-duplication well |
| 15:44.11 | Ivanovic | sdumitriu1: the prededuplication time is just 3 days which is not *this* much time to get things sorted out especially if you have two students for a project and each is in a conflict |
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| 15:44.27 | sdumitriu1 | Yes, that happens |
| 15:44.41 | sdumitriu1 | Sorry, didn't mean to sound rude |
| 15:44.49 | aciid | will they take names of duplicated students on this channel? :P |
| 15:44.59 | sdumitriu1 | aciid: No |
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| 15:45.35 | aciid | oh :D |
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| 15:55.42 | qmaruf | !countdown |
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| 15:58.49 | banas | Don't know if it's wrong to ask here, but what does it mean for a channel to be muted? |
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| 15:59.07 | psf_pypy_arigo | only that you cannot "speak" |
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| 15:59.41 | gevaerts | Except if one of the channel ops "voices" you |
| 15:59.42 | banas | psf_pypy_arigo: Ah, I understand. Thanks! |
| 16:00.00 | banas | gevaerts: Okay :) |
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| 16:00.38 | lasconic | Hi there |
| 16:00.39 | psf_pypy_arigo | does anyone know how they plan to prevent any student from listening here? |
| 16:00.46 | carols | psf_pypy_arigo: we're not. |
| 16:00.51 | carols | this is open source, we're open about it. |
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| 16:00.55 | carols | everyone's welcome to listen |
| 16:00.57 | lasconic | is there any policy on code merging during GSoC |
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| 16:01.08 | carols | lasconic: probably within the org there is. |
| 16:01.12 | carols | you should ask them. |
| 16:01.12 | lasconic | meaning a student should work in a branch |
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| 16:01.20 | carols | you should ask the org. |
| 16:01.22 | lasconic | ok |
| 16:01.29 | lasconic | I'm admin of the org |
| 16:01.33 | psf_pypy_arigo | uh, then why do we have to be secret about acceptance? some students will already learn it now |
| 16:01.40 | carols | lasconic: then what's your policy? :-) |
| 16:01.40 | ahuillet | well then you set the policy. :) |
| 16:01.41 | lasconic | just wanted to check if there is something google requires |
| 16:01.48 | lasconic | I will :) |
| 16:01.49 | lasconic | thanks |
| 16:01.56 | carols | psf_pypy_arigo: because we're talking about 6 students vs. thousands. |
| 16:01.58 | aciid | lk,p[][\ |
| 16:02.05 | aciid | sorry |
| 16:02.05 | ahuillet | 6 duplicates only this year? |
| 16:02.05 | scorche | carols: i am here for the moment, at least if you need any short-term help |
| 16:02.13 | psf_pypy_arigo | carols: ok, thank you :-) |
| 16:02.17 | gevaerts | ahuillet: 6 *unresilved* duplicates |
| 16:02.22 | carols | scorche: thanks very much, i got nathanielmanista to be my minion for the day :-) |
| 16:02.28 | scorche | ok |
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| 16:02.31 | carols | scorche: so enjoy the desert :-) |
| 16:02.49 | scorche | at home waiting for the petsitter to get here, currently =) |
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| 16:04.09 | opencv | Schizzle, I had everything deduped and shiny and now a red splotch reappears. Out, damn'd spot! out, I say!—One; two: why, then |
| 16:04.10 | opencv | 'tis time to do't. |
| 16:04.45 | ffledgling | opencv, macbeth? |
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| 16:07.11 | opencv | mac schizzle |
| 16:07.40 | coderhead42 | vishrut009: ffldedgling: hi |
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| 16:09.37 | opencv | The guy has already been producing work for us ... |
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| 16:17.37 | aried3r | Ok, with only 6 unresolved duplicates, todays deduplication event will only last a few minutes, correct? |
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| 16:18.08 | aried3r | Or will there be some aftermath that will require org attendance afterwards? |
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| 16:18.22 | aried3r | Just so I know, gotta make plans for the evening. :) |
| 16:19.02 | carols | aried3r: it should be a half hour or so, give or take. |
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| 16:19.11 | carols | depends on if we produce more duplicates in the process or not. |
| 16:19.20 | edsiper | just realized that we have a duplicated... |
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| 16:19.31 | aried3r | Heh. Alright. |
| 16:19.41 | aried3r | WIll it be done alphabetically? |
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| 16:21.07 | carols | it will be done in the order i have it on my dashboard. |
| 16:21.43 | edsiper | carols, cannot find the info for this: in case our duplicate goes away to another org, do we still hold the slot for another student ? |
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| 16:22.16 | sdumitriu1 | edsiper: Yes |
| 16:22.19 | aried3r | herp |
| 16:22.23 | sdumitriu1 | If you're present and say you want to keek it |
| 16:22.30 | carols | edsiper: yes, you're welcome to use that slot to accept another student instead. however, please keep in mind that you need to *immediately* accept the other student and assign a mentor so we can make sure he/she is not also in a duplicate situation. |
| 16:22.33 | sdumitriu1 | If nobody from you org is present, it will be lost |
| 16:22.42 | edsiper | sdumitriu1, thanks |
| 16:22.46 | aried3r | One more question, how many co mentors can be assigned to a student? Internally of course, many I'd guess, but on Melange? |
| 16:23.04 | sdumitriu1 | 1 |
| 16:23.13 | edsiper | carols, thanks |
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| 16:23.17 | aried3r | Thank you. |
| 16:23.22 | carols | yw |
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| 16:23.57 | aried3r | !next |
| 16:23.58 | gsocbot | aried3r: "next" is May 27 at 19:00 *UTC* - Accepted student proposals announced on the Google Summer of Code 2013 site |
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| 16:31.09 | sdumitriu1 | carols: I don't remember, does Google provide some swag for students that aren't officially accepted, but do finish their project outside of GSoC? |
| 16:31.34 | carols | sdumitriu1: not as a general rule, no. we consider the promotional items to be reserved for the "honor" or having finished gsoc. |
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| 16:31.58 | carols | we can't give stuff away to anyone who works on an open source project, unfortunately. |
| 16:32.25 | sdumitriu1 | I see, thanks |
| 16:32.42 | carols | yw |
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| 16:36.43 | mariaDa2 | carols: It's told in faq that students from Ukraine don't recieve promotional items. |
| 16:36.43 | mariaDa2 | I'm from Ukraine, but by the end of gsoc I'll be in Switzerland(permanently). Can I recieve those items? |
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| 16:37.11 | carols | mariaDa2: if you're accepted you'll receive your payment card, and if you finish you'll receive your certificate of completion. that's all. |
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| 16:38.02 | mariaDa2 | carols: sadly:(, but thanks for answer |
| 16:38.06 | carols | yw |
| 16:38.33 | carols | if you don't like it, please speak to your customs officials about their processes for imports to the country. |
| 16:38.58 | carols | we want to send you stuff. your customs folks don't want you to receive it without bribery, it seems. |
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| 16:39.25 | mariaDa2 | Yes, but can you send it to my address in Swizerland? |
| 16:39.49 | carols | what address do you have listed as your shipping address in melange? |
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| 16:40.18 | mariaDa2 | Ukraine. Should I change? |
| 16:40.40 | carols | if you want to receive all your stuff, yes, you should. |
| 16:40.50 | prasoon2211_ | carols, I am amazed you haven't stopped delivering to India :) |
| 16:41.02 | prasoon2211_ | height of corruption here |
| 16:41.22 | carols | prasoon2211_: you'd be amazed how outdone you are by countries like brazil, for example. |
| 16:41.22 | ahuillet | carols : all those countries listed in the FAQ are countries for which you had packages held because customs officials were "asking for a bribe"? seriously, how does it work, did they actually phone google asking for money? |
| 16:41.36 | dhaun | mariaDa2: keep in mind that the card for payments is sent out at the beginning of the program, so don't change your address just yet |
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| 16:41.45 | carols | ahuillet: no, they don't' phone google. they tell the students they want an additional $60 or whatever to release the package. |
| 16:42.06 | carols | ahuillet: and yes, those are all countries which we have had difficulties with packages going to. |
| 16:42.11 | ahuillet | and is that illegal? because I've heard of that happening in France in a legal context |
| 16:42.20 | ahuillet | fees or whatever, not that I import a lot of goods. |
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| 16:42.50 | OpenMRS|downey | ahuillet: Many people abuse the "gift" designation to avoid paying customs duties on imports for things that are actually purchased. |
| 16:42.54 | carols | ahuillet: it's a matter of how often it happens and how the charges get "sent." in some cases they speak to our logistics team and google pays, in some cases they just tell the student. |
| 16:43.01 | mariaDa2 | carols: is thing told by dhaun right? Can i change address after recieving of payment card in order to get other items in autumn? |
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| 16:43.19 | OpenMRS|downey | ahuillet: As a result the customs offices often doubt that "gift" designation, even when it's really a gift. |
| 16:43.33 | ahuillet | mariaDa2: I have done this several times in the past, it worked in previous years. |
| 16:43.44 | carols | mariaDa2: you need to have the correct address on file on 27 may at 19:00 utc for your welcome package. then you can change it later for your final package with the tshirt, which the students list receives an email about. |
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| 16:44.02 | carols | ahuillet: please keep in mind mentors get one package, students get two. |
| 16:44.15 | ahuillet | I meant as a student. I've done what mariaDa2's asking many times. |
| 16:44.21 | carols | great. |
| 16:44.31 | mariaDa2 | ahuillet: While i was living in Russia, Russian post service just lost like 5 packages out of 13. They just don't know where they are. |
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| 16:45.18 | mariaDa2 | carols: does "welcome" package differ for those in Ukraine/Russia? or it's same for everyone? |
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| 16:45.48 | carols | mariaDa2: welcome package for those countries listed in the FAQ is simply the payment card. welcome package for other countries is a payment card, a sticker, a notebook, and a pen. |
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| 16:46.07 | carols | apparently these are things customs officials would like to keep for themselves. |
| 16:46.13 | carols | for reasons i don't understand. |
| 16:46.25 | ahuillet | but not the payment card? incredible. |
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| 16:46.42 | carols | well, the payment card alone can be sent as a "document" which isn't inspected by customs officials. |
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| 16:46.56 | carols | if you declare the goods they rip it open and demand bribes. |
| 16:47.06 | Arthur_D | the pen is mightier than the sword, y'know |
| 16:47.07 | mariaDa2 | It's a lot more risk to keep credit card(also it needs activaion upon recieving as far as I know) |
| 16:47.38 | GorillaWarfare | What is a "payment card"? |
| 16:47.48 | mariaDa2 | http://abhinav-upadhyay.blogspot.com/2011/05/gsoc-welcome-package.html |
| 16:47.50 | ahuillet | GorillaWarfare : credit card? debit card? plastic money? |
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| 16:48.51 | carols | GorillaWarfare: a stored value credit card through which we pay the students who participate in gsoc. |
| 16:49.02 | GorillaWarfare | Ohh |
| 16:49.05 | GorillaWarfare | Thank you |
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| 16:51.30 | fewcha | "please note that the channel will be muted, and you should change your username to the format org_user".. so that means <orgname>_<usernameforgsoc> ? |
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| 16:51.41 | mariaDa2 | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:51.46 | carols | mariaDa2: yw |
| 16:51.56 | carols | fewcha: sure, that's fine. |
| 16:52.12 | fewcha | carols: okay, thanks |
| 16:52.15 | carols | yw |
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| 16:52.37 | sdumitriu1 | fewcha: That's only if you're an org admin, students should just keep quiet |
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| 16:54.00 | fewcha | sdumitriu1: oh I thought the channel will be muted and the above line was for students. Okay, so students don't need to change their name, right? Okay thanks :) |
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| 16:55.02 | opencv | sending the me command |
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| 16:56.24 | carols | if you're here for the deduplication IRC meeting, please note it starts in just about 2 hours. |
| 16:56.33 | carols | serves some tea and coffee |
| 16:56.38 | carols | have some tea while you wait. |
| 16:56.39 | carols | cheers. |
| 16:57.34 | Wesnoth_Ivanovic | loves tea! |
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| 16:59.39 | opencv | my company also serves free tea, coffee and lunch ... because we founders pay for it. It doesn't seem so free when you are on the other side. |
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| 17:01.01 | David_Honeynet | opencv: but you get the reward of all those happy faces every day ;-) |
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| 17:24.32 | Uli- | opencv: are you hiring? ;) |
| 17:25.33 | sdumitriu1 | Uli-: Tired of Apache? |
| 17:25.53 | Uli- | sdumitriu1: apache isn't an employer. it's all voluntary |
| 17:26.21 | sdumitriu1 | I know that, I'm a committer |
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| 17:26.37 | Uli- | great! |
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| 17:26.50 | Uli- | what project? |
| 17:26.56 | sdumitriu1 | Velocity so far |
| 17:26.59 | Uli- | cool |
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| 17:30.17 | Uli- | out of curiosity: did you get involved with velocity through gsoc? |
| 17:30.36 | gerardoc | exit |
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| 17:32.40 | sdumitriu1 | Uli-: Not really, it's used by my organization, but I did get in touch with my main organization through GSoC |
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| 17:34.10 | Uli- | nice. |
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| 17:34.25 | Uli- | second grade gsoc student then ;) |
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| 17:35.22 | Uli- | may i ask what organization that was? |
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| 17:47.32 | xamox | Anyone here from the melange team? |
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| 17:49.22 | carols | xamox: you want to try either #melange or melange-soc-dev@googlegroups.com |
| 17:49.29 | xamox | thx. |
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| 17:54.25 | JordiGH | !next |
| 17:54.26 | gsocbot | JordiGH: "next" is May 27 at 19:00 *UTC* - Accepted student proposals announced on the Google Summer of Code 2013 site |
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| 17:56.12 | carols | hi folks, |
| 17:56.14 | ultrt | so, how many will get utc wrong and want to start in 5 min? ;) |
| 17:56.21 | carols | if you're here for the IRC meeting it starts in about 1 hour |
| 17:56.52 | samba_jelmer | ah, oops |
| 17:56.52 | xwiki_sdumitriu | ultrt: carols starts, everybody else just waits |
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| 17:57.12 | samba_jelmer | here I was thinking that just because I'm near Greenwhich, I wouldn't have to worry about timezones :-) |
| 17:57.20 | ultrt | carols: hi |
| 17:57.22 | xwiki_sdumitriu | The more important question is: how many will get UTC wrong and show up in two hours? |
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| 17:57.31 | ultrt | samba_jelmer: eh, she didn't say BST |
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| 17:57.39 | carols | ultrt: hi |
| 17:57.44 | opencv_gary | off to scrum meeting ... |
| 17:57.54 | ultrt | xwiki_sdumitriu: that's a hard one to do! how do you confuse it with 2 hours? |
| 17:57.57 | eric0 | i can shortcut resolving a duplicate for my org (Puppet Labs) if it helps. |
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| 17:58.18 | ultrt | some people confuse it for british time, though, usually |
| 17:58.34 | carols | eric0: the more duplicates we resolve before the meeting, the less time the 500 people in this room have to stick around for. |
| 17:58.37 | carols | so they all thank you. |
| 17:58.37 | samba_jelmer | ultrt: it's only incorrect 6 months in the year :) |
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| 17:59.11 | ultrt | right right! just off 50% of the time, so! :D |
| 17:59.24 | globaliist | unfortunately google calendar does not support UTC - only GMT - to select UTC in summer you can select Iceland, Reyjavik GMT+0 time. |
| 17:59.30 | ahuillet | duplicates appear in melange, right? so if our accepted students are "pending acceptance", we don't have duplicates, correct? |
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| 17:59.58 | xwiki_sdumitriu | ahuillet: Correct |
| 17:59.58 | ultrt | ahuillet: yes, but any can appear as other resolve conflicts |
| 18:00.00 | carols | ahuillet: correct. so long as your slot totals line up and your students all say pending, you're fine *for now* |
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| 18:00.32 | Cerlyn | globaliist: Not quite true; in calendar select "Display all time zones" under settings, then "(GMT +00:00) GMT (no daylight saving)" |
| 18:00.37 | carols | we've already had two cases where an org accepted a student late and it produced a new duplicate, so it happens all the time. |
| 18:00.39 | opencv_gary | Tried dedup via email, no response this morning so far ... |
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| 18:00.50 | ultrt | carols: qq: is there any way to know students will not be at this meeting and know results before? (just wondering) |
| 18:00.59 | globaliist | Cerlyn: thanks |
| 18:01.01 | carols | ultrt: no |
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| 18:01.12 | mancoolgunda | hi carols |
| 18:01.16 | sugarlabs_walter | carols: I been meaning to ask: we have multiple mentors per student; will there be a way to tell melange about them? right now we have one per student listed |
| 18:01.19 | prism | Hi Carols |
| 18:01.20 | carols | hi mancoolgunda |
| 18:01.33 | aried3r | 1hr left, right? |
| 18:01.35 | carols | sugarlabs_walter: yes, once students are accepted you can add on as many additional mentors as you'd like |
| 18:01.39 | carols | hi prism |
| 18:01.41 | carols | aried3r: yes |
| 18:01.50 | aried3r | food it is |
| 18:01.52 | xwiki_sdumitriu | ultrt: It is harder to be one hour late than one hour early, true, but it's not such a big deal to show up early and wait, as opposed to losing a slot due to absence |
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| 18:02.01 | sugarlabs_walter | carols: great. thx |
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| 18:02.17 | ultrt | xwiki_sdumitriu: that indeed |
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| 18:02.44 | _7a | carols: Given 2 *accepted* students "A" and "B": If an org loses "A" due to de-duplication, can "B" be re-purposed do implement the proposal "A" submitted? |
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| 18:02.59 | carols | _7a: repurposed? |
| 18:03.07 | ahuillet | _7a : you're talking about students here |
| 18:03.08 | carols | you mean can accept another student in that slot? |
| 18:03.13 | xwiki_sdumitriu | ultrt: Student's should know, because we don't call them by name, just saying "Org X and Org Y, you have a conflict" |
| 18:03.14 | mancoolgunda | carols: so I know that each org is allotted a certain number of slots as part of GSoC program. I was wondering if I can ask the orgs about the number of slots that got allotted to them this year or is it a private qn which the orgs are not willing to disclose? |
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| 18:03.33 | carols | mancoolgunda: yes, you're welcome to ask. and it's their choice if they tell you or not. |
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| 18:03.40 | mancoolgunda | ok thanks |
| 18:03.40 | _7a | carols, ahuillet: I mean have Student B implement the proposal of Student A (the lost one in the de-duplication process) |
| 18:03.41 | ahuillet | mancoolgunda: not willing to disclose, but your mileage may vary with other orgs |
| 18:03.58 | ahuillet | _7a : so basically tell a student "throw your proposal to the bin, you're now working on this other person's proposal"? |
| 18:04.13 | carols | _7a: no, student b would have to have submitted a proposal for the project of student a. |
| 18:04.18 | carols | and i assume he/she hasn't done that. |
| 18:04.20 | carols | so no. |
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| 18:04.43 | xwiki_sdumitriu | _7a: It's a bad practice to put the student to work on soemething that he/she didn't apply for |
| 18:04.56 | carols | you don't get to just tell a student "work on something entirely different" |
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| 18:06.36 | JordiGH | I wonder why do "spam" proposals happen. |
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| 18:06.55 | JordiGH | They're obviously not usually sent by actual spammers. Do people just misunderstand what GSoC is about? |
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| 18:07.00 | ahuillet | I guess some people hope to be accepted by mistake? or they just don't understand what GSoC is about |
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| 18:07.26 | carols | JordiGH: because $5000 is enough money to motivate some people to type some words and hit submit |
| 18:07.50 | ahuillet | s/some/most/, to be honest |
| 18:07.50 | qgil | Our only case of duplication got resolved few hours before the meeting. Yay! and thanks Mick - Code for America |
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| 18:08.08 | JordiGH | carols: But that guy just now on the mailing list... He really seems to think he's got a chance of being accepted. |
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| 18:08.24 | ahuillet | JordiGH : link? |
| 18:08.29 | carols | JordiGH: maybe he does. let him. what's it to you? |
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| 18:08.49 | carols | he'll get an email on monday and we'll all go on with our lives. |
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| 18:09.12 | JordiGH | carols: It would be very bizarre for nmap to accept him. I feel bad about the guy. I feel like I should help him undestand why there is probably very little chance that nmap would accept it. |
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| 18:09.13 | xwiki_sdumitriu | JordiGH: Did you send him an email explaining what GSoC is about? Ignoring the problem won't make student suddenly see his mistake |
| 18:09.33 | ahuillet | or just let him understand by himself, don't you have other students to mentor? |
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| 18:10.05 | firespeaker | hm, the topic's too long and isn't displaying fully |
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| 18:10.09 | JordiGH | Yeah, I don't know. Sometimes I just feel bad about people who seem so confused. |
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| 18:10.31 | carols | JordiGH: then email him and help him out. |
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| 18:10.34 | carols | or ignore him. |
| 18:10.35 | ahuillet | JordiGH : sure, but you can't teach everyone on the planet who's confused about something you know, or you would be doing nothing else with your life. |
| 18:10.37 | carols | whatever you like :-0 |
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| 18:11.12 | xwiki_sdumitriu | http://xkcd.com/386/ |
| 18:11.13 | JordiGH | ahuillet: He's just one guy, not the whole planet. |
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| 18:11.26 | freenet_toad_ | zaphod's just this guy, yunno... |
| 18:11.26 | JordiGH | And I would like to somehow make it clearer what GSoC is about. |
| 18:11.45 | JordiGH | If we make it clearer, perhaps we'd have fewer spam proposals from well-intentioned people. |
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| 18:12.06 | carols | JordiGH: i've done my absolute best with the FAQs and the manuals. if you have additional ideas and how to explain it better, please let me know. |
| 18:12.06 | JordiGH | So, I'm kinda selfish here too (thus commendable?). I want to get fewer spam proposals from clueless people. |
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| 18:12.50 | JordiGH | carols: Maybe a big honking sign ARE YOU SURE THIS PROPOSAL IS RELEVANT TO THIS ORG right next to the "submit" button. (I kid, I kid...) |
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| 18:12.59 | hornig | hi |
| 18:13.11 | carols | hi hornig |
| 18:13.13 | hornig | will the org meeting be in here? |
| 18:13.25 | carols | hornig: yes |
| 18:13.26 | awesin | will students be sent a personal mail if they're selected? |
| 18:13.36 | sonney2k | JordiGH, if you have lots of time you could train a spam filter based on previous gsoc submissions |
| 18:13.39 | xwiki_sdumitriu | No matter how friendly you make the manual, there will always be a need to tell people to RTFM |
| 18:13.40 | carols | awesin: all students who submitted a proposal will receive an email. |
| 18:13.53 | sonney2k | JordiGH, I can guide you how to properly do that with shogun :D |
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| 18:14.02 | JordiGH | sonney2k: I was about to mention shogun... |
| 18:14.04 | xwiki_sdumitriu | awesin: One email for each proposal |
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| 18:14.10 | publiclab_jywarr | i'm sorry if it's a dumb question, but how do i tell if i'm an admin for my org? It says i'm a mentor, and i want to check if we have duplications. All the submitted proposals are green |
| 18:14.13 | hornig | ah, great, then I will idle for aerospaceresearch.net :) |
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| 18:14.43 | carols | publiclab_jywarr: here's one way to check. go to any random student proposal for your org and see if you have an "accept" toggle. if you do, you're an org admin |
| 18:14.43 | JordiGH | sonney2k: Y'know, I can't think of what possible features to train on. Spam proposals look identical to actual proposals unless you're an expert human. |
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| 18:14.49 | awesin | thanks :)... and what time can the students accept the mail? is it going to be instantaneous to all or over time? |
| 18:15.01 | publiclab_jywarr | @carols, thanks |
| 18:15.06 | carols | awesin: it will be at 19:00 utc on 27 may. |
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| 18:15.25 | ahuillet | JordiGH : significantly shorter, I'd say |
| 18:15.32 | sdkie | carols: who will resolve the dublicate issue ? are students informed to attend this meeting ? |
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| 18:15.40 | ahuillet | in my experience, at least (but I'm used to requiring long applications) |
| 18:15.41 | xwiki_sdumitriu | sdkie: No |
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| 18:15.46 | carols | sdkie: we resolve it. students can watch but do not need to attend. |
| 18:15.49 | awesin | thanks again...and 1 last question...can student proposals be rejected/swapped with others after the students acceptance choice deadline? |
| 18:15.50 | JordiGH | ahuillet: Some spam proposals are really well thought-out. |
| 18:15.59 | carols | awesin: no |
| 18:16.09 | awesin | ok thnx :) |
| 18:16.14 | JordiGH | ahuillet: I mean, they look great, except for being irrelevant. |
| 18:16.52 | ahuillet | has fired up Quake3, ready to deal with anyone who wants to take a student from X.org |
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| 18:17.06 | Maverick_ | @carol : I want to know, if all the students, who are in deduplication are already informed or not? Thanks! |
| 18:17.18 | ultrt | ahuillet: sorry, that's non-free software, disqualified :) |
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| 18:17.30 | ahuillet | ultrt : it's free software now and has been for several years |
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| 18:17.36 | carols | Maverick_: nope. students receive no notification before monday. |
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| 18:17.46 | sdkie | carols xwiki_sdumitriu: I am student. I have submitted two proposals. Do my preference count in case of dublication ? |
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| 18:17.54 | Maverick_ | @carols : Thanks! |
| 18:17.56 | ultrt | clearly I don't follow gaming enough :) |
| 18:17.57 | xwiki_sdumitriu | sdkie: Yes, it should |
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| 18:18.11 | carols | sdkie: maybe. the org can ask you but they may choose not to. we assume if you submitted proposals to multiple orgs you are fine working with any of them. |
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| 18:19.41 | sdkie | carols: I have told my preference to Jruby mentor (my preference over beagleboard). |
| 18:19.50 | carols | sdkie: great. |
| 18:20.15 | hornig | btw: carols: Thanks for helping us all the time. that's really nice! :) |
| 18:20.22 | carols | hornig: yw |
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| 18:21.03 | ahuillet | carols : I'm curious - is GSoC a full-time occupation for you, or do you have other duties? |
| 18:21.05 | sdkie | carols: Is this channel officially logged ? |
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| 18:21.21 | mariaDa2 | !logs |
| 18:21.21 | gsocbot | mariaDa2: "logs" is http://ibot.rikers.org/%23gsoc/ |
| 18:21.23 | xwiki_sdumitriu | sdkie: yes |
| 18:21.23 | xwiki_sdumitriu | !logs |
| 18:21.23 | gsocbot | xwiki_sdumitriu: "logs" is http://ibot.rikers.org/%23gsoc/ |
| 18:21.27 | carols | ahuillet: it's about a 70% occupation. i also attend conferences, help with events, etc. |
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| 18:21.38 | dukelet0 | waves |
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| 18:22.55 | dukeleto | carols: let me know if I can help you out with anything. I will lurk unless action is necessary :) |
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| 18:23.09 | MichaelC | t |
| 18:23.10 | carols | dukeleto: ah, thanks :-) |
| 18:23.18 | kcranstn | hey duke :) |
| 18:23.26 | dukeleto | kcranstn: howdy :) |
| 18:23.29 | MichaelC | oops. hit the keyboard, sorry. |
| 18:23.30 | carols | dukeleto: my housekeeper just today said we had "mucho cafe" in our refrigerator. |
| 18:23.52 | dukeleto | carols: can I use that as a brewpony.com testimonial? ;) |
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| 18:23.57 | carols | dukeleto: yes! |
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| 18:24.33 | dukeleto | wishes all the students in here the best of luck |
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| 18:25.20 | PLASMA_jvilk | But... there shouldn't be any students in here... |
| 18:25.30 | carols | PLASMA_jvilk: students are allowed to be here. |
| 18:25.33 | PLASMA_jvilk | Oh |
| 18:25.36 | carols | they're allowed to watch and listen. |
| 18:25.39 | carols | this is open source :-) |
| 18:25.47 | PLASMA_jvilk | But secrets! :) |
| 18:25.51 | carols | right. |
| 18:25.56 | PLASMA_jvilk | I guess everyone finds out on Monday anyway |
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| 18:26.16 | carols | PLASMA_jvilk: we're talking about 5 students vs. thousands. |
| 18:26.27 | derdon | dukeleto: thank you :) |
| 18:26.41 | dukeleto | derdon: :) |
| 18:26.42 | PLASMA_jvilk | Only 5? Much lower than I expected |
| 18:26.45 | derdon | could you read my question from 18:36 by the way? I don't know if someone has answered because I had network problems |
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| 18:27.01 | dukeleto | PLASMA_jvilk: there are very few secrets :) Just things fewer people know about. |
| 18:27.05 | derdon | PLASMA_jvilk: most of the duplicate problems are resolved beforehand |
| 18:27.06 | aried3r | 18:36 in which timezone? |
| 18:27.10 | xwiki_sdumitriu | 18:36 mars time? |
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| 18:27.18 | derdon | aried3r: whoops, GMT+1 |
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| 18:28.12 | taaz | carols: a possible addition to the FAQ might be to add the number of proposals submitted per year near the answer about how many students participated. i saw that info from the bot in here. might help avoid too many students being too hopeful about being accepted for limited slots. |
| 18:28.31 | opencv_gary | try google "local time utc" and it generally works if you have localization info somewhere. 30 minutes ... |
| 18:28.36 | carols | taaz: so blog posts are not enough, you think? we need to have it in the faq too? |
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| 18:29.07 | dukeleto | taaz: very high quality proposal always get submitted |
| 18:29.11 | ogre3d_assaf | May I suggest a nickname convention – [project name]_[your name] – ex – ogre3d_assaf |
| 18:29.14 | dukeleto | taaz: it isn't a numbers game, it is a quality game |
| 18:29.27 | jemarch | hi |
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| 18:29.42 | taaz | carols: hmm. no idea. just a suggestion :) |
| 18:29.43 | xwiki_sdumitriu | taaz: That's a bad idea: bad students will overestimate their chances and apply anyway, but good students might underestimate and decide it's no point in applying to such a hard competition -> lower quality |
| 18:29.48 | carols | taaz: ok :-) |
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| 18:30.18 | xwiki_sdumitriu | ogre3d_assaf: It's suggested in the chat title already |
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| 18:31.13 | awesin | hmm...some students will know their fate today itself....not unfair to other students? can't they be allowed to inquire of their status with the mentor? |
| 18:31.25 | carols | hi everyone, if you're here for the irc deduplication meeting, it starts in about a half hour. |
| 18:31.26 | xwiki_sdumitriu | awesin: Why will they? |
| 18:31.30 | carols | awesin: no |
| 18:31.54 | OpenMRS_downey | awesin: No one knows anything until Monday. |
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| 18:32.03 | xwiki_sdumitriu | awesin: The student's aren't called by name |
| 18:32.06 | awesin | oh.... |
| 18:32.12 | flaushy | xwiki_sdumitriu: if you see two orgs that you both applied for, have a duplication you "might" get a hint :) |
| 18:32.14 | dfighter | awesin there's a reason for the delay... |
| 18:32.14 | awesin | i didn't know that |
| 18:32.37 | xwiki_sdumitriu | flaushy: Yes, but then you have to assume that you're the only one that applied for those two organizations |
| 18:32.41 | opencv_gary | AFAIK, student's should not in any case know. I have a duplicate with another org, but we won't use his/her name |
| 18:32.41 | ogre3d_assaf | xwiki_sdumitriu: So why are must nicknames not like that? |
| 18:32.59 | xwiki_sdumitriu | ogre3d_assaf: Because nobody follows the rules |
| 18:33.01 | Krystof | maybe because the meeting starts in 30 minutes |
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| 18:33.10 | xwiki_sdumitriu | And yes, the meeting starts later |
| 18:33.13 | Krystof | and some of us are on other freenode channels doing heavy open source development :-) |
| 18:33.18 | opencv_gary | It is touchy trying to find student preferences. But getting high interaction and actual work pretty much tips things off. |
| 18:33.20 | flaushy | xwiki_sdumitriu: right. |
| 18:33.22 | awesin | btw after student deduplication, what taskes remain? for the period 24-27 may? |
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| 18:33.42 | carols | awesin: i make sure everything's in order. |
| 18:33.48 | carols | awesin: they're all tasks for me. |
| 18:33.52 | carols | so enjoy your weekend. |
| 18:34.06 | flaushy | xwiki_sdumitriu: but chances are small that someone applies to the same set of orgs as oneself |
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| 18:34.16 | OpenMRS_downey | passes awesin a relaxing cup of tea |
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| 18:34.25 | awesin | oh haha...you sure have been making life much easier for everyne carol.... sincere thanks :D |
| 18:34.34 | awesin | OpenMRS_downey: haha...ty :D |
| 18:34.43 | awesin | can definitely do with it |
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| 18:35.15 | dfighter | awesin I can get a tranqulizer gun if the tea is not enough :P |
| 18:35.21 | Krystof | awesin: there's the organization message fragment for accepted/rejected students, though you might have already filled that in |
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| 18:41.32 | carols | hi everyone, i'll be muting the channel in about 10 minutes and we'll be starting the meeting in about 20. |
| 18:41.43 | debian_paultag | righto. |
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| 18:42.00 | ultrt | aw, last chance to say irrelevant things! ;) |
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| 18:42.14 | bloomington_ingh | Monkeys! |
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| 18:43.09 | thinkup_ginatrap | thanks carols |
| 18:43.14 | carols | yw thinkup_ginatrap |
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| 18:47.09 | jenmylo-wordpres | nick/ jenmylo-wordpress |
| 18:47.14 | jenmylo-wordpres | oops :) |
| 18:47.14 | debian_paultag | oh noes |
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| 18:47.31 | mozilla_gerv | jenmylo-wordpres: Other way round :-) |
| 18:47.35 | mozilla_gerv | org_nick. |
| 18:47.37 | paultag[debian] | Oh. |
| 18:47.39 | jenmylo-wordpres | mozilla_gerv: yes, i just mistyped |
| 18:47.45 | debian_paultag | was trying to get fancy. |
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| 18:47.53 | mozilla_gerv | See the topic. |
| 18:48.06 | ThomasWaldmann | moin |
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| 18:48.35 | wordpress_jenmyl | ftr, the topic note is too long and gets cut off in colloquy |
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| 18:48.47 | apertium_jnw | yeah, it's getting cut off everywhere |
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| 18:48.51 | ultrt | fine fine |
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| 18:48.57 | PioneerAxon | I remember, there was some discussion about "going to bathroom" last year just before the same meeting.. :P Does anyone else remember that?? |
| 18:49.00 | ultrt | let's bow to nickname uniformity ;) |
| 18:49.00 | *** topic/#gsoc by carols -> This year's student deduplication meeting will be at 19:00 UTC on 24 May. This is for organization administrators and mentors only. If you are in this channel for the meeting, please note that the channel will be muted, and you should change your username to the format org_user. Please PM carols or nathanielmanista for voice to resolve your duplicate when you organization is called. |
| 18:49.04 | carols | there. |
| 18:49.15 | PioneerAxon | wordpress_jenmyl: Yeah, it does the same in chatzilla |
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| 18:49.27 | publiclab_jywarr | cut off everywhere except https://webchat.freenode.net/ :-) |
| 18:49.43 | ScummVM_LordHoto | PioneerAxon: Can't those clients show the topic by using /topic? |
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| 18:49.47 | carols | ok folks, I'm muting the channel. we'll be starting in 10 minutes. |
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| 18:52.42 | carols | hi everyone, we're starting in 8 minutes by my clock. |
| 18:52.57 | carols | thank you for coming, hopefully this won't take too long and you'll all be out of here shortly. |
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| 18:56.05 | carols | we're starting in 5 minutes by my clock. |
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| 18:59.33 | carols | okay folks, we're starting in 1 minute. |
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| 19:00.01 | carols | ======BEGIN IRC deduplication meeting for Google Summer of Code 2013======== |
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| 19:00.08 | carols | hi everyone, thanks for coming. |
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| 19:00.14 | carols | a few notes before we get started: |
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| 19:00.38 | carols | 1) please read the channel topic to make sure you understand how to format your nick and if you are a student, you're not needed. :-) |
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| 19:01.02 | carols | 2) the channel is currently muted. if your organization is called, please PM either myself or nathanielmanista to give you voice. |
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| 19:01.47 | carols | 3) the decisions made in this meeting are final. this channel is logged. if an organization does not show up to represent themselves the student will automatically go to the other org. if the organizations cannot decide amongst themselves, i will make the final, binding decision arbitrarily. |
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| 19:02.19 | carols | 4) i need to run the deduplication script again once we've gotten through everyone to make sure there are no more duplicates, so please stick around even after we have gone through the list. |
| 19:02.25 | carols | once we've completed that, you can all go. |
| 19:02.33 | carols | alright, with that, our first orgs! |
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| 19:02.49 | carols | i need representatives from Battle for Wesnoth and Boost, please. |
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| 19:02.56 | carols | we'll wait while you PM us. |
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| 19:03.18 | *** mode/#gsoc [+v Wesnoth_Ivanovic] by carols |
| 19:03.22 | Wesnoth_Ivanovic | hi carols |
| 19:03.28 | carols | hi there |
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| 19:03.33 | carols | monkey_edsiper: did you get voice? |
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| 19:03.55 | carols | great, i think that's both of you |
| 19:04.05 | Wesnoth_Ivanovic | we'd really like to get the student since we already had a conflict for that slot and otherwise got to hand back a slot |
| 19:04.11 | carols | alright. |
| 19:04.14 | carols | boost_boris: your take? |
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| 19:04.48 | boost_boris | we are fine with that. we can go with another proposal if you guys prefer it like that, ivanovic. |
| 19:04.56 | Wesnoth_Ivanovic | thanks boost_boris |
| 19:04.56 | carols | ok, great. |
| 19:04.58 | carols | that was easy. |
| 19:05.03 | carols | the student goes to wesnoth |
| 19:05.05 | carols | i will change it |
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| 19:05.09 | carols | please don't do anything yourselves |
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| 19:05.19 | Wesnoth_Ivanovic | thanks carols, going quiet again |
| 19:05.35 | boost_boris | shall i accept then another proposal, carol? or you do this now for me? |
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| 19:05.48 | carols | boost_boris: yes, you can accept another proposal now. |
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| 19:05.53 | carols | please also make sure it has a mentor assigned. |
| 19:05.55 | carols | ok, moving on. |
| 19:05.58 | boost_boris | ok, thanks, will do |
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| 19:06.17 | carols | i need representatives for opencv and simplecv, please |
| 19:06.21 | carols | we'll wait while you PM us |
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| 19:06.59 | carols | also need reps for opencv as well. |
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| 19:07.10 | simplecv_xamox | I believe I'm the only SimpleCV rep present |
| 19:07.15 | carols | that's fine. |
| 19:07.19 | carols | we're waiting on opencv. |
| 19:07.32 | *** mode/#gsoc [+v opencv_gary] by carols |
| 19:07.32 | simplecv_xamox | crosses fingers they don't show |
| 19:07.34 | carols | there we go |
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| 19:07.39 | carols | ok |
| 19:07.42 | carols | you should both have voice |
| 19:07.49 | carols | have you already discussed this amongst yourselves? |
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| 19:08.12 | simplecv_xamox | I have not. I couldn't see who the conflicting org was, tried reaching out in IRC channel |
| 19:08.31 | carols | alright, and what is your take? you really want the student? |
| 19:08.38 | carols | opencv_gary: do you have thoughts as well? |
| 19:08.47 | opencv_gary | yes |
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| 19:09.02 | simplecv_xamox | I would like him if possible. Very talented, not sure what his proposal for OpenCV was. |
| 19:09.04 | opencv_gary | He expressed a strong pref to us |
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| 19:09.16 | carols | opencv_gary: so you've spoken to him via email? |
| 19:09.16 | opencv_gary | He's been blogging and already contributing |
| 19:09.22 | opencv_gary | Many times |
| 19:09.24 | carols | simplecv_xamox: have you spoken to him? |
| 19:09.31 | simplecv_xamox | I have not |
| 19:09.48 | carols | alright, i believe opencv_gary when he says the student's preference is for them. |
| 19:09.49 | opencv_gary | He contributed last sunday |
| 19:09.56 | carols | simplecv_xamox: do you have another student you can accept in his place? |
| 19:10.08 | simplecv_xamox | I do, although I don't have access to select |
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| 19:10.20 | carols | simplecv_xamox: can you resolve that in the next hour? |
| 19:10.34 | simplecv_xamox | opencv_gary, I'll bow out, but you owe me a beer at the next automate conference. ;) |
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| 19:10.46 | carols | great, glad to hear it. the student goes to open cv. |
| 19:10.48 | carols | so it is noted. |
| 19:10.53 | simplecv_xamox | carols, Yep. I will. |
| 19:10.58 | carols | i'll change it, please don't do anything yourselves. |
| 19:11.00 | opencv_gary | beers, I'll be at cvpr |
| 19:11.20 | carols | ok, I'm devoicing both of you |
| 19:11.22 | simplecv_xamox | opencv_gary, Gothca. ;) |
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| 19:11.44 | carols | ok, next orgs |
| 19:11.59 | carols | i need representatives from bloomington indiana and health information systems, please |
| 19:12.04 | carols | ill wait for you to pm |
| 19:12.18 | carols | plays hold music |
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| 19:12.29 | *** mode/#gsoc [+v hisp_sunbiz] by carols |
| 19:12.32 | carols | there's one |
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| 19:12.47 | *** mode/#gsoc [+v bloomington_ingh] by carols |
| 19:12.50 | carols | great, there's the other |
| 19:12.56 | carols | have you folks already spoken about this? |
| 19:12.56 | hisp_sunbiz | We've had to give away 2 students already, out of the 4 slots we were given. One to Catdroid and another to DBPedia. |
| 19:12.57 | hisp_sunbiz | The same project is now in conflict with the Bloomington. I've written email to the Bloomington GSoC admin, but havent received a reply |
| 19:13.07 | carols | bloomington_ingh: your take? |
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| 19:13.14 | bloomington_ingh | We will relinquisj |
| 19:13.21 | carols | great, that was easy. |
| 19:13.28 | carols | the student goes to HISP. so noted. |
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| 19:13.31 | hisp_sunbiz | thanks |
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| 19:13.34 | carols | please don't change anything, ill do it. |
| 19:13.39 | bloomington_ingh | No problem |
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| 19:13.59 | carols | ok, i'm devoicing both of you |
| 19:13.59 | hisp_sunbiz | I love how quick it was!! |
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| 19:14.19 | carols | ok, next orgs |
| 19:14.33 | carols | i need representatives from jruby and beagle board, please |
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| 19:15.17 | carols | ok there we go |
| 19:15.19 | jruby_headius | hello |
| 19:15.22 | beagle_jkridner | hi jruby_headius |
| 19:15.22 | carols | have you discussed this student? |
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| 19:15.34 | jruby_headius | I believe student has told us both he prefers JRuby |
| 19:15.37 | beagle_jkridner | hasn't seen response emails. |
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| 19:15.45 | beagle_jkridner | looks |
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| 19:15.59 | jruby_headius | he mentioned speaking to someone on beagle today to tell them |
| 19:16.16 | carols | beagle_jkridner: can you confirm? |
| 19:16.29 | beagle_jkridner | i cannot... but not denying either. |
| 19:16.32 | jruby_headius | I'm pinging student now to find out who he talked to |
| 19:16.33 | beagle_jkridner | invite ds2 |
| 19:16.42 | carols | ok we can wait one minute for a ping. |
| 19:17.04 | beagle_jkridner | jruby_headius: did you forward the e-mail per my e-mail ping? |
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| 19:17.14 | jruby_headius | he may not be around...but he has already started work on jruby side and talked to me again today |
| 19:17.18 | beagle_jkridner | ds2 is the mentor from our side. |
| 19:17.20 | carols | ok, the student has confirmed he wants to go with jruby. |
| 19:17.22 | jruby_headius | beagle_jkridner: you sent me email? |
| 19:17.34 | beagle_jkridner | k... we will relinquish and pick up another project? |
| 19:17.48 | carols | so beagle_jkridner yes, please accept another student and assign a mentor now. |
| 19:17.51 | jruby_headius | fwiw, the jruby project is likely to be on BB a lot too |
| 19:17.53 | beagle_jkridner | thanks! |
| 19:17.54 | jruby_headius | so it's all good |
| 19:17.58 | carols | i will change things, the student goes to jruby |
| 19:18.00 | beagle_jkridner | even better |
| 19:18.11 | jruby_headius | ok |
| 19:18.16 | beagle_jkridner | will pick up another tonight after carols makes the change |
| 19:18.16 | carols | i'm devoicing both of you for now |
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| 19:18.37 | carols | ok next orgs |
| 19:18.58 | carols | i need representatives from monkey and creative commons, please |
| 19:19.03 | carols | ill wait for your PM |
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| 19:19.17 | *** mode/#gsoc [+v monkey_edsiper] by carols |
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| 19:19.29 | carols | ok that should be both of you |
| 19:19.34 | monkey_edsiper | yep |
| 19:19.34 | cc_dmills | hi. I reached out to monkey_edsiper, and I think we're both on the same boat - we'd give back a slot if we don't get this student |
| 19:19.34 | carols | have you discussed the student? |
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| 19:19.49 | monkey_edsiper | carols, not me |
| 19:20.05 | carols | cc_dmills: does that mean you really want the student or don't really care? :-) |
| 19:20.07 | cc_dmills | I sent an email to the student just now to see if he has a preference, but haven't heard back from him |
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| 19:20.22 | carols | monkey_edsiper: your thoughts? |
| 19:20.27 | cc_dmills | meaning: I want the student, and if I don't get him I don't have a backup lined up |
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| 19:20.47 | monkey_edsiper | carols, we are in a similar situation, i would prefer you decide ... |
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| 19:20.57 | carols | ok, just give me a minute and i will decide. |
| 19:21.00 | monkey_edsiper | sure |
| 19:21.04 | cc_dmills | student is on a diff timezone, not sure he'll answer my email anytime soon unfortunately |
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| 19:21.16 | monkey_edsiper | yep |
| 19:21.35 | carols | ok, student goes to creative commons. |
| 19:21.37 | carols | so noted. |
| 19:21.44 | monkey_edsiper | thanks.. |
| 19:21.46 | carols | monkey_edsiper, please feel free to accept another student if you have one. |
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| 19:21.51 | cc_dmills | ok. thanks! |
| 19:21.53 | carols | i will change things. |
| 19:22.09 | monkey_edsiper | carols, should i proceed to choose a new student now ? |
| 19:22.14 | carols | monkey_edsiper: yes, please |
| 19:22.16 | carols | and assign a mentor |
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| 19:22.21 | carols | i'm devoicing both of you for now |
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| 19:22.42 | carols | ok everyone, i need to run the deduplication check once more |
| 19:22.47 | carols | but we should be pretty close to done |
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| 19:22.51 | carols | please hold on just another minute |
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| 19:23.19 | carols | plays more hold music |
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| 19:25.42 | carols | ok folks, we're in the clear, we have no further duplicates. thanks for coming, you can all go on with your days/nights now! have a nice rest of your gsoc. |
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| 19:25.55 | carols | ====END IRC deduplication meeting===== |
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| 19:25.57 | pidgin_mark | Huzzah. Thank you, carols |
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| 19:26.00 | carols | i'm unmuting the channel |
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| 19:26.05 | *** mode/#gsoc [-m] by carols |
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| 19:26.06 | PLASMA_jvilk | yay |
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| 19:26.07 | Catroid_aried3r | Thanks. Pleasant as always. |
| 19:26.09 | ogdf_carsten | Thanks Carol! |
| 19:26.09 | c4a_migurski | woo |
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| 19:26.11 | ChadWindnagle | awesome |
| 19:26.11 | carols | have a nice day everyone |
| 19:26.12 | dreimark | :9 |
| 19:26.12 | pagmo_crunning | hurray! :) |
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| 19:26.14 | IowaFloodCenter | Thanks Carol |
| 19:26.15 | dreimark | :) |
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| 19:26.16 | honeynet_david | excellent, good job all :) |
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| 19:26.16 | ScislaC | Thanks carols! |
| 19:26.16 | paultag | thanks, carols! |
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| 19:26.17 | ezekiel | thanks everyone |
| 19:26.18 | raxa_johnstoecke | yay! |
| 19:26.19 | MoinMoin_ThomasW | \o/ |
| 19:26.19 | Wesnoth_Ivanovic | thanks for the fast meeting |
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| 19:26.19 | paultag | Oh dear god |
| 19:26.20 | ezekiel | thanks carols |
| 19:26.20 | python_arigo | thanks :-) |
| 19:26.21 | ogre3d_assaf | nice work Carol |
| 19:26.22 | cc_dmills | yay thanks! |
| 19:26.23 | sonney2k | carols, new world record :-D |
| 19:26.24 | differ_Stavel | thanks, carols |
| 19:26.24 | ns3_lalith | is happy no surprise dedups came up |
| 19:26.25 | blender_ton | carol rocks! |
| 19:26.27 | wiselib_amaxilat | Thanks! bye all! |
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| 19:26.27 | OpenNetLab_ash | great thanks! |
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| 19:26.29 | c4a_migurski | excellent arbitrating |
| 19:26.30 | parrot_Util | Thank you, carols |
| 19:26.30 | jgsmith | thanks, carols! |
| 19:26.32 | raphael_INCF_ | Thanks Carol! Have a great rest of the day you all |
| 19:26.32 | twitter_chrisa | awesome, thanks! |
| 19:26.33 | thinkup_ginatrap | that was fast, thank you! |
| 19:26.34 | nrnb_kristina | Thanks |
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| 19:26.51 | dune_blattms | thanks carols and have a nice day u all |
| 19:26.52 | dukeleto | rejoices |
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| 19:26.59 | paultag | the parts right now are insane |
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| 19:27.07 | lyx_stefano | thanks carol! |
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| 19:27.10 | geneinfo_rhaw | thanks carol! |
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| 19:27.15 | smcgregor | Thanks carols ! |
| 19:27.15 | NetBSD_spz | for ircII, load silent may help |
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| 19:27.24 | dukeleto | carols: there were a few times where i thought i was in a secret bene gesserit meeting :) |
| 19:27.24 | differ_Bedrich | Thank you, CarolS. |
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| 19:27.35 | Ivanovic | carols: should the students now all be assigned correctly? meaning: the student that we (wesnoth) should have gotten is no longer marked accepted |
| 19:27.39 | dukeleto | "so it is noted" |
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| 19:27.53 | dukeleto | Ivanovic: give carols time to make things happen |
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| 19:28.16 | downey | Was this year the first recorded student-for-beer trade? |
| 19:28.26 | carols | Ivanovic: please email me. i have about 400 people messaging me right now |
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| 19:28.32 | Ivanovic | carols: sure |
| 19:28.33 | dukeleto | notes to everybody that carols still needs to make magic happen behind the scenes to "implement" the deduplication, if i understand correctly |
| 19:28.40 | ThomasWaldmann | haha |
| 19:28.43 | hisp_sunbiz | downey: haha |
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| 19:28.52 | Ophiuchi | . o O (student for chocolate? and which is the better deal? :) |
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| 19:28.54 | gevaerts | downey: I'd say a beer is worth *two* students :) |
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| 19:29.10 | dberkholz | that all depends on the beer and the student. |
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| 19:29.12 | Ivanovic | dukeleto: she at least has done some magic by unmarking students |
| 19:29.15 | ahuillet | gevaerts : cheap students. |
| 19:29.18 | dukeleto | everybody should shower carols with chocolates and other delicious treats... |
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| 19:29.26 | dukeleto | is not kidding :) |
| 19:29.27 | ahuillet | dukeleto : and beer. |
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| 19:29.32 | ogre3d_assaf | a beer sounds like a good idea, cu all guys. |
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| 19:29.34 | downey | offers himself up for a can of Keystone Light. |
| 19:29.47 | publiclab_jywarr | is there a known issue in melange with promoting a mentor to org admin? the email link sent seems not to actually promote, but just to send recipient to their profile editing page |
| 19:29.49 | gevaerts | dberkholz: I only do deals with *good* beer :) |
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| 19:30.46 | sdumitriu1 | publiclab_jywarr: Yes, there is such an issue, talk to the #melange people |
| 19:30.53 | dukeleto | dberkholz: how is that Folgers you are drinking? |
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| 19:31.11 | ram_ | !logs |
| 19:31.12 | gsocbot | ram_: "logs" is http://ibot.rikers.org/%23gsoc/ |
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| 19:31.26 | dukeleto | publiclab_jywarr: if you very nicely and thoroughly report bugs to melange devs, you will have a happier life :) |
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| 19:31.50 | sciruby_pjotrpri | Friday night in Europe - let's paint the town! |
| 19:31.54 | publiclab_jywarr | dukeleto: words to live by |
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| 19:32.27 | dberkholz | dukeleto: i'll have you know i only drink the finest costco brands, like http://www.amazon.com/Green-Mountain-Coffee-Sumatran-24-Count/dp/B001EO5Y52 |
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| 19:33.14 | dukeleto | dberkholz: :) |
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| 19:34.03 | Krystof | that was a pleasantly short meeting :-) |
| 19:34.05 | saurabhsood91 | carols: when can we know slot allocations from the slots which have been returned? |
| 19:34.21 | dukeleto | dberkholz: brewpony is going international next month. But still no k-cups... |
| 19:34.23 | carols | saurabhsood91: you can ask them now. and they choose whether they tell you. |
| 19:34.30 | Rik_GsocStudent | it was interesting seeing the deduplication process. i was hoping someone got accepted to 3 or more organizations, it would of been interesting to see how that would play out. ;) |
| 19:34.44 | dukeleto | saurabhsood91: did you submit a parrot proposal? |
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| 19:34.56 | MichaelC | Rik_GsocStudent: 5 would be great |
| 19:35.03 | awesin | whats a parrot proposal? |
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| 19:35.10 | sdumitriu1 | carols: Wasn't the question "which orgs get the slots that were just returned"? |
| 19:35.15 | manugupt1 | dmills: ping |
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| 19:35.17 | dukeleto | awesin: parrot.org :) |
| 19:35.18 | saurabhsood91 | dukleto: ? |
| 19:35.21 | awesin | oh lol |
| 19:35.26 | carols | sdumitriu1: the orgs continue to have the slots. |
| 19:35.28 | awesin | :) |
| 19:35.31 | Krystof | for newbie org admins like me, who are about to disappear for the weekend: the students that we want to accept are in "pending accept" state -- is that the right state for them? (That is, they're "pending" the official happenings on Monday)? |
| 19:35.32 | MichaelC | sdumitriu1: the students were returne, not the slots |
| 19:35.41 | carols | Krystof: yes. |
| 19:35.44 | Krystof | thank you |
| 19:35.54 | sdumitriu1 | I know, I was translating saurabhsood91's question |
| 19:36.08 | dukeleto | saurabhsood91: disregard. |
| 19:36.16 | jgsmith | carols: do we need to keep an eye out for duplicates before Monday's announcement? |
| 19:36.19 | saurabhsood91 | oh..oo |
| 19:36.22 | carols | jgsmith: no. |
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| 19:36.30 | jgsmith | carols: awesome. :-) thanks! |
| 19:36.39 | carols | yw |
| 19:36.40 | sdumitriu1 | And I think that simplecv might return a slot |
| 19:36.59 | sdumitriu1 | Since they said they don't have a backup student in line |
| 19:37.11 | saurabhsood91 | carols: pm? |
| 19:37.22 | carols | sdumitriu1: why not just have a nice cup of tea and wait until monday for the announcement? |
| 19:37.27 | carols | saurabhsood91: sure |
| 19:37.44 | dukeleto | The recursive deduplication process only required one round and it is now over. |
| 19:37.47 | dmills | manugupt1: pong |
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| 19:38.02 | manugupt1 | dmills: Just a question I was wondering if CC had any free slots |
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| 19:38.09 | manugupt1 | openSUSE could use it |
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| 19:38.15 | dmills | sorry, we don't |
| 19:38.18 | dukeleto | suggests for everybody to calmly enjoy the weekend and wait for news on Monday |
| 19:38.21 | dukeleto | dmills: that time is past |
| 19:38.24 | dukeleto | deduplication is over |
| 19:38.27 | dmills | indeed it is |
| 19:38.31 | dukeleto | No more slots are going anywhere to anybody. |
| 19:38.31 | manugupt1 | dmills: ah.. thanks a lot.. |
| 19:38.37 | dukeleto | No slot movement occurs after now. |
| 19:38.41 | dmills | better luck next season |
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| 19:38.53 | manugupt1 | dukeleto: I mean if an org has no backup student then a slot is not there right |
| 19:38.58 | Rik_GsocStudent | actually there are going to be more slots going around now that some organizations got duplicates they'll need to replace with backups |
| 19:39.41 | aciid | !logs |
| 19:39.41 | gsocbot | aciid: "logs" is http://ibot.rikers.org/%23gsoc/ |
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| 19:40.42 | sdumitriu1 | carols: I'm not waiting for announcements, I already know which students I'll accept |
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| 19:41.01 | carols | great. |
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| 19:42.10 | dukeleto | Rik_GsocStudent: that is the deduplication process, which is being implemented nowishly. I am talking about orgs doing anything outside of that process, which is now set in stone. |
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| 19:42.15 | ardn_hornig | I really don't want to have your job, Carols! :) i wouldn't be as good as you! :) |
| 19:42.28 | carols | you're very kind. |
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| 19:42.48 | Rik_GsocStudent | dukeleto: oh ok |
| 19:42.54 | kind_hornig | :) |
| 19:43.28 | kind_hornig | okay, all of you have a great weekend! bye then! |
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| 19:43.52 | dukeleto | pours carols a large glass of 21 year something and tips his hat. Thanks! |
| 19:44.05 | carols | thanks dukeleto :-) 21 year something, eh? |
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| 19:44.22 | dukeleto | carols: i wanted you to use your imagination :) |
| 19:44.28 | carols | ha, ok :-) |
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| 19:44.56 | dukeleto | carols: maybe even 25 year! I am not sure I've ever had that :) You deserve only the best for putting up with this crew... |
| 19:45.10 | carols | agreed, dukeleto. agreed. |
| 19:45.14 | gevaerts | wants another bottle of the 20 year old Filliers he once had |
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| 19:46.06 | dukeleto | goes under a comfy rock to attempt to be productive... |
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| 19:46.44 | dukeleto | carols: is the number of slots allocated to an org public info now? |
| 19:46.53 | carols | dukeleto: nope |
| 19:47.00 | dukeleto | carols: good to know :) |
| 19:47.14 | carols | and won't be until monday, and only then if the student specifically goes to the org's homepage and counts how many student projects they have |
| 19:47.17 | gevaerts | It's semi-public, isn't it? |
| 19:47.45 | carols | gevaerts: how so? |
| 19:47.57 | dukeleto | carols: a better way to ask this: People are asking me how many slots my org has. Is it ok to say that now, or should I wait until Monday? |
| 19:48.09 | gevaerts | carols: haven't orgs been allowed to tell how many slots they got if they chose to? |
| 19:48.10 | carols | dukeleto: you're welcome to say. if your org so chooses. |
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| 19:48.18 | dukeleto | carols: thanks! All is clear, now. |
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| 19:48.22 | carols | yes, orgs are welcome to say how many slots they have. if they so choose. |
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| 19:49.51 | carols | monkey_edsiper: you still around? |
| 19:50.06 | dmills | he left to pick up his daughter from school |
| 19:50.11 | dmills | I have his email if you need it |
| 19:50.18 | carols | no, that's fine. thanks dmills |
| 19:50.21 | dmills | np |
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| 19:50.53 | carlesfernandez | hi. Am I too late? |
| 19:51.05 | sdumitriu1 | carlesfernandez: For what? |
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| 19:51.29 | carlesfernandez | I'm the admin of the GNSS-SDR organization, I am here for de de-duplication meeting |
| 19:51.34 | carlesfernandez | sorry for being late |
| 19:51.39 | sdumitriu1 | Yes, you're too late, but it's OK |
| 19:51.44 | flaushy | it is over :) |
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| 19:51.48 | carlesfernandez | :-( |
| 19:51.49 | sdumitriu1 | No problem for your org |
| 19:51.53 | Rik_GsocStudent | are we allowed to know which students got duplicates in each organization? |
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| 19:52.07 | sdumitriu1 | Rik_GsocStudent: No |
| 19:52.09 | carols | Rik_GsocStudent: nope |
| 19:52.10 | gevaerts | Rik_GsocStudent: you're allowed to know anything said in here |
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| 19:53.12 | carols | mozilla_fqueze: are *you* around? |
| 19:53.22 | mozilla_fqueze | carols: yes. |
| 19:53.28 | carols | pm? |
| 19:53.33 | mozilla_fqueze | carols: mozilla_gerv is currently replying to your email |
| 19:53.38 | carols | ok great, thanks. |
| 19:53.39 | Rik_GsocStudent | carols gevaerts well, using the clues found here i was able to find out who had duplicates and got accepted into OpenCV. (i won't spoil it) :D |
| 19:53.46 | mozilla_gerv | carols: Reply sent. |
| 19:53.51 | carols | thanks. |
| 19:54.06 | gevaerts | !this cookie | Rik_GsocStudent |
| 19:54.06 | gsocbot | Rik_GsocStudent: "this cookie" is for you |
| 19:54.34 | Rik_GsocStudent | thanks gevaerts |
| 19:54.48 | Framedragger | irc bots with piping, oh the beauty! |
| 19:54.59 | mozilla_gerv | carols: I'm staying here on IRC for a little longer if you need a chat. |
| 19:55.16 | carols | that's fine, thanks |
| 19:55.34 | downey | !this tea | carols |
| 19:55.46 | carols | thanks downey |
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| 19:56.13 | gevaerts | !learn "this tea" as for you |
| 19:56.13 | gsocbot | gevaerts: "this tea" is for you |
| 19:56.23 | Rik_GsocStudent | !cookieshare | gevaerts |
| 19:56.23 | gsocbot | gevaerts: "cookieshare" is have half of this cookie |
| 19:56.45 | gevaerts | Thanks :) |
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| 20:25.21 | carols | "i wish i could quit you.." |
| 20:25.29 | carols | oh, bad joke on a friday. |
| 20:25.34 | carols | has some more tea |
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| 20:27.04 | Rik_GsocStudent | tea/coffee is pretty addictive, it'd be hard to quit. |
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| 20:29.38 | ansimionescu | TIL carols is funny ^_^ |
| 20:29.51 | carols | :-) |
| 20:32.31 | ffledgling | !logs |
| 20:32.32 | gsocbot | ffledgling: "logs" is http://ibot.rikers.org/%23gsoc/ |
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| 20:40.34 | sdkie | carols: so mujhe abstraction in discussion. Didn't even thought of. Awesome work. |
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| 20:40.45 | sdkie | carols: so much** abstraction in discussion. Didn't even thought of. Awesome work. |
| 20:40.50 | carols | thanks. |
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| 20:41.39 | sdkie | carols: which year of GSOC program ? 4th or 5th ? |
| 20:41.54 | carols | sdkie: how many years has it been running, you mean? |
| 20:42.05 | sdkie | carols: yes |
| 20:42.09 | carols | 9 |
| 20:43.00 | JordiGH | Hey. |
| 20:43.10 | sdkie | carols: :) |
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| 20:44.20 | Rik_GsocStudent | i wonder if this year there were less applications, because i heard ohter organizations saying they received less. |
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| 20:44.45 | gevaerts | I doubt that, but we'll know soon |
| 20:44.54 | JordiGH | Is the dedup over? Looks like the channel isn't +m anymore. |
| 20:45.01 | Rik_GsocStudent | JordiGH: yes it's over |
| 20:45.15 | gevaerts | JordiGH: yes. All five or six of them were handled in 26 minutes |
| 20:45.30 | cheno_ | !log |
| 20:45.30 | gsocbot | cheno_: Error: You don't have the owner capability. If you think that you should have this capability, be sure that you are identified before trying again. The 'whoami' command can tell you if you're identified. |
| 20:45.44 | cheno_ | where can i see the logs? |
| 20:45.50 | Rik_GsocStudent | !logs |
| 20:45.50 | gsocbot | Rik_GsocStudent: "logs" is http://ibot.rikers.org/%23gsoc/ |
| 20:45.57 | Rik_GsocStudent | !logs | cheno_ |
| 20:45.58 | gsocbot | cheno_: "logs" is http://ibot.rikers.org/%23gsoc/ |
| 20:46.28 | cheno_ | i'm aware of that page, but there's no log for today and yesterday |
| 20:47.09 | gevaerts | Yesterday is there |
| 20:47.16 | gevaerts | Today will show up at midnight UTC |
| 20:47.17 | carols | cheno: it's takes a while to post. if you're just asking for curiosity, you'll need to wait. if you have a specific question, i'll see if i can answer it. |
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| 20:48.03 | monkey_edsiper | carols, back |
| 20:48.18 | carols | great, thanks. i think we're working on it over email at this point. |
| 20:48.24 | cheno_ | carols: thank you, it's just curiosity. cheers for all the work |
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| 20:50.05 | swook | !next |
| 20:50.06 | gsocbot | swook: "next" is May 27 at 19:00 *UTC* - Accepted student proposals announced on the Google Summer of Code 2013 site |
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| 22:00.16 | TobiasFar | short question: amazon send my a refund for a broken ssd i paid with my 2011 gsoc debit card. now neither amazon will take this card for payment nor do the usual citi hotline numbers work to set a pin for atm use (i just an automated system which tells my the account number doesn't exist). any ideas how i could retrieve this refund? |
| 22:01.24 | Achillion | Is one supposed to use the gsoc cards for anything beyond cashing out? |
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| 22:04.09 | TobiasFar | Achillion, iirc back then they said something along the lines of "just use them as regular cash whereever they accept credit cards".... |
| 22:05.40 | dmp | TobiasFar: my gsoc 2011 card was valid till 05/13 |
| 22:06.51 | TobiasFar | dmp, is that including or excluding may? :) |
| 22:07.57 | swook | those dates usually include the mentioned month |
| 22:07.58 | gevaerts | Can't amazon refund to a different account? |
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| 22:08.36 | TobiasFar | gevaerts, they already refunded (i.e. it's already on that gsoc account) don't know if the credit system allows undo-refunds |
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| 22:08.45 | gevaerts | ah, right... |
| 22:09.17 | gevaerts | I suspect you'll need to talk to an actual citibank person |
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| 22:09.55 | TobiasFar | gevaerts, you don't have a citibank # that might result in actual persons, do you? |
| 22:10.03 | gevaerts | No, sorry |
| 22:10.51 | gevaerts | carols might be able to help you there, but since this is probably one of the busier weekends of the year for her, I'd suggest email |
| 22:12.13 | TobiasFar | k..i'll try a mail...i already tried a couple of citibank numbers i've found in the gsoc-students group archive...without much success |
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| 22:14.36 | jdj | 0. |
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| 22:15.29 | TobiasFar | jdj? |
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| 22:20.00 | jdj | Hi.. when the status on melange will switch from pending to accepted? |
| 22:20.18 | gevaerts | on the 27th |
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| 22:21.53 | jdj | gevaerts: so also the mails to students? |
| 22:22.02 | gevaerts | nods |
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| 22:48.16 | gsocbot | jkremser: "logs" is http://ibot.rikers.org/%23gsoc/ |
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| 23:42.27 | chaudhary | !next |
| 23:42.28 | gsocbot | chaudhary: "next" is May 27 at 19:00 *UTC* - Accepted student proposals announced on the Google Summer of Code 2013 site |
| 23:42.52 | chaudhary | yuppieee :) |
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